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8. This is Hayao Miyazaki.
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stops work at 9 pm on the dot.
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like clockwork.
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in production.
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After spending all that time?
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What's next?
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the key animation.
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24. This is Toshio Suzuki.
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or just "Producer".
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Let me think about it.
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- When do they need it?
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but Gakken was.
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with various "cases".
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- Quicker that way.
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- We need to clear it.
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from Studio Ghibli.
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All your fault.
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Tokuma Shoten Publishing Co.
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magazine in three weeks.
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a serialized manga.
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Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind.
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a longtime Ghibli resident.
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Almost There
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Almost There
Heaven
Why must I keep drawing
when I'm past 70?
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when I'm past 70?
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on The Wind Rises alone.
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I can't do this.
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our customers' demand.
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Totoro is back as top seller.
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Naoto Kan campaign.
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so he can speak to you.
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This is Naoto Kan speaking.
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opportunity to speak to you
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facing our country today.
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since the nuclear accident.
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about the Fukushima disaster.
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by a master doodler.
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- Sankichi.
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like she does.
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but not around her.
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before storyboards finish.
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trying to understand.
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I'm retiring.
Like the film writes itself
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I'm retiring.
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I'm retiring.
That's right.
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no idea what's going on in my films.
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even I didn't know.
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never understand them.
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- What could he possibly say?
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- Right?
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I go clean the river.
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and take the goats down.
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exhibit at the Museum.
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sitting in storage.
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I did four years ago,
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2008 financial crisis.
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I documented how the Depression
manifested itself in my town.
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manifested itself in my town.
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I think they've all left now.
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so it's not over yet.
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of March 11."
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March 11, 2011."
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March 1 1, 201 1
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power plant exploded.
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what took place?
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must sit in another's chair,
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sleep in another's bed.
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can you find your place.
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Can't back out.
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It's a secret of life.
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airplanes and machines...
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that what they do is good,
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They're cursed dreams.
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wanting to be rich or famous.
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That's just hopeless.
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movies are even worthwhile?
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- Thank you.
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in just five seconds.
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guy you're about to meet.
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July 20 is a no go, huh?
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bring us to 81.
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checking in with Suzuki.
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- I know.
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their latest projects.
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how should I put this...
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on time or on budget.
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but we feel that it'll be his best.
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the world is at war.
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the company fresh out of college.
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on the same films,
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Heidi, A Girl of the Alps,
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Anne of Green Gables, Miyazaki left.
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no later. Mark it with a skull.
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with him 24 hours a day.
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I knew we could do it.
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427. But he's trying
to not finish it, isn't he?
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Let's just say it.
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435. It'll take a miracle
to finish by summer.
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438. Suzuki went on a regional tour
to promote the films.
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440. The two meet during
The Great Kanto Earthquake.
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This isn't going to work.
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442. These standees are useless.
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he shows the finished film.
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many people, who, where.
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or during the meal?
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He thinks of everything.
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based on who's there.
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456. So I'm sure there's a reason
Okuda is there.
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Miyazaki's father...
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Miyazaki Airplane
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459. that manufactured parts
for war planes.
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460. So Miyazaki is putting a lot of
his father into the Jiro character
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462. Hey, that sounds familiar...
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fall and winter...
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468. It's the song's fault. "Bring spring
and summer, fall and winter."
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469. Now the film will never finish.
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473. but for 3 years I've dreamt
only of Takahata-san.
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474. I'm serious, it's all about him.
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475. Just trying to push him.
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476. Everyone doubts whether
the film will get done.
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he is with schedules.
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480. It's worrisome.
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482. was struggling to find
a voice actor for the lead.
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is that his voice is...
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more on the dainty side.
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486. Not dainty.
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487. More like...
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good diction and higher voices.
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490. He's so smart that
he spares his breath.
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who can perform that.
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493. This guy doesn't exist.
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494. The people on this list won't
be able to give us that.
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495. Maybe a non-actor
would be better.
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496. But that'll be difficult.
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- Too extreme?
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- What?
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502. We can't do Anno.
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503. What would that be like?
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504. Anno's voice, huh?
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505. What do you think about Anno?
I'm getting serious.
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- He does.
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507. He has integrity.
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508. Right, he's very earnest.
The man doesn't lie.
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509. What would happen?
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510. It'll sound strange,
but you'll get used to it.
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514. Anno, what an amazing idea.
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a question for you.
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516. And this isn't a joke, I'm serious.
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The Wind Rises, right?
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521. I'll e-mail details later.
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522. Great.
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524. Okay, we're rolling.
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526. Here's something to eat.
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527. It's sponge cake.
I just bought it.
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120... kilos per square meter.
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531. Oh, I'm sorry.
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532. Mr. Hirayama is
our production engineer.
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533. - Okay, that's enough, come up.
- Sure.
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534. The role's yours!
The occasional slur we can fix.
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536. Your voice will work.
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537. - You think?
- Yes, please do it.
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538. How could I say no to Miya-san?
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539. This is shocking news.
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540. Shocking is right.
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541. - I'm shocked.
- Me, too.
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542. But know that Jiro Horikoshi
is no ordinary man.
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543. Never mind the kiss scene.
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544. - No lines there.
- No lines.
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545. Not like I'll be kissing.
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546. I like how enigmatic your voice is.
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547. That's a compliment?
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548. It's hard to pin down.
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549. The auditions were awful.
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550. Actors?
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551. Right, actors.
Not voice actors.
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552. Their line deliveries
are all the same.
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554. or pretend to,
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555. and then emote, like
"this is me, emoting!"
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556. - Let's go with Anno!
- Okay!
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557. Yes.
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558. What a turn of events.
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559. It's life in the 21st century.
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560. He was so young then.
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I still remember when I met him.
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563. Nausicaä Memoirs
He sat cross-legged
in his swivel chair,
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564. He sat cross-legged
in his swivel chair,
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565. then he turned and faced me,
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566. and his first words to me were,
"When can you start?"
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567. "Well, I'm still in Osaka,
so not immediately..."
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568. "What, you can't start tomorrow?"
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569. Sure, I remember.
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570. - What was he like?
- Like an alien.
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571. - Alien?
- Like, who is this guy?
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in Miyazaki's Nausicaä,
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575. then went on to become one of
Japan's most prominent directors.
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576. Thank you.
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577. When he's walking,
if his head goes up like this,
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578. each step will look too bouncy.
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579. Like a cheap background extra.
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580. We should probably fix this one, too.
Stands out too much.
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581. Feels like it's working...
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582. But feels like it's not.
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583. Never made a film like this.
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584. Though I did make Porco Rosso,
a foolish film.
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585. Even when I had the chance,
I didn't want to.
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586. Why was Porco Rosso foolish?
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587. Because I've been making
films for kids.
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588. That film wasn't for kids.
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589. How did this happen?
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I ended up with this.
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593. Sure.
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594. A white sloping path
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598. Unnoticed by anyone
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599. - All alone
- "... all alone..."
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600. Hold still.
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601. Hold still.
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602. Please quit if you: 1. have no ideas
2. always rely on others
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603. 3. shirk responsibility
4. lack enthusiasm
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604. The world's gone crazy, huh?
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605. You know, we're starting
to feel restricted.
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606. - By whom?
- Everyone.
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607. Starting with NHK telling us
what we can't do.
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609. Really?
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610. Suggesting we can't
touch on certain issues,
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611. whether it's on film or TV.
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612. Pathetic.
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613. Not just the government,
even the private sector.
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614. Pushing us back to the far right.
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615. The days of creative freedom
are ending.
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616. You think?
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617. You two are
the end of the line.
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618. In a sense, what we managed to do
for 50 years is all coming to an end.
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619. The writing's on the wall.
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620. And so it begins.
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621. We must live.
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622. I think we're feeling that
sense of dread in the air
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623. that my parents felt
back in their day.
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624. Headed for the unknown.
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625. No one thought we'd go
to war with America.
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626. And getting into that
quagmire with China...
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627. It happened while people
weren't paying attention.
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628. Suddenly, Japan went crazy
and waged war on the world.
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629. I didn't know how
people felt back then,
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to understand.
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631. We're headed that way.
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632. This isn't some kind of
predictable story.
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633. Who knows what'll happen.
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634. As for me, I'm done making movies.
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635. It's futile now.
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636. I'm done.
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637. That's someone dressed as you.
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638. Sure looks like me.
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640. Whatever.
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641. I think some blame goes
to senior citizens.
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642. Younger people are
more indifferent now.
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643. I guess so.
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644. Almost like younger people
have given up already.
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645. I'm not sure, but it's like...
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646. The storyboard he's
worked on for two years
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647. is about to get done tonight.
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648. This is tedious, I quit.
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649. I moved that line over here.
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650. Got it?
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651. So you're done?
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652. Almost threw out your back.
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653. Shall we pop this?
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654. Let's do it.
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655. Everyone, the storyboard is done.
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656. Gather around to celebrate.
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657. Here's the button.
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658. Press it?
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659. Oh, like this.
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660. I'd prefer more of a pop.
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662. Oh, you did?
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663. I did, but...
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665. Yes, but without the battle scene.
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666. This here.
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668. This is the only way
I could end this.
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669. I understand.
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670. - This shot is pretty nice.
- It is.
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671. You know, reading it
all the way through,
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672. not sure if this is intended, but...
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673. it feels strongly anti-war.
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674. Definitely.
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675. I don't believe Jiro Horikoshi
was militant at all.
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676. I know what you mean,
but we have to do it.
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677. Right.
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678. Chan-san.
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680. You happy?
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681. Thank you.
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682. Snowing, huh?
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683. Sure is.
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684. - Happy, no?
- Not at all.
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686. had Jiro reuniting with
his wife Nahoko, who died young.
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687. There, she calls him to her.
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688. He says, "She's been
waiting here for a long time."
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689. Instead of waving her hand...
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690. - More like this?
- Right.
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691. Basically, between this world
and the next,
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692. there are people who aren't
allowed into heaven.
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693. After death.
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694. This is Caproni's kingdom.
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695. She says, "Come."
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696. When she says that,
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697. it's not like "Come!"
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698. More like a whisper.
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699. Somehow he can hear her.
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700. Jiro understands her, so...
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701. he nods like this.
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702. You see, what drives animation
is the will of the characters.
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703. You don't depict fate,
you depict will.
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704. Even if fate exists.
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705. I tried some things to
make the arm look thinner,
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706. but I think it's better
to make it look looser.
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707. So keep it around here.
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708. Almost done.
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709. - Trying to wrap this up?
- Of course!
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710. - Wanna get done!
- Wanna get done!
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711. The end is a new beginning.
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712. Thanks, I'll do my best, too.
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714. You all just want this over, dammit.
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716. He's directed
two features at Ghibli,
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717. and he's been developing
a newproject with this producer.
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718. But business-wise...
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719. I'm not talking about business.
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720. - But look, Goro...
- No, no, no...
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721. - This is all for you.
- It's for me?
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725. I came into this industry
by accident.
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726. Working in animation?
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727. I didn't start off wanting
to work in animation
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729. to make my own films.
That's not how I got started.
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730. So naturally, from my standpoint,
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731. sometimes I do have doubts
about my abilities,
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733. So for me to keep doing this,
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734. I need a just cause,
a good reason to do it.
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735. And if I didn't come to Ghibli,
I wouldn't be doing this.
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736. On one hand I want to do it
because I enjoy it,
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738. I do it for this company,
Studio Ghibli.
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739. It's for the people here,
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741. It's for the people I work with.
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742. That gives me a reason to do it.
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743. But why do this project?
Is this just for me?
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744. It's up to you to find
a reason to do it,
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745. so if you can't find one,
then that's that.
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747. I'm saying don't pin it
all on the director.
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749. Isn't the producer responsible?
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751. The Wind Rises and Princess Kaguya
are both interesting cases.
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752. With both projects,
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wanted to do it.
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754. Then why did they get made?
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755. If we really get down
to the truth of the matter,
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756. I hate to say this,
but I pushed it through.
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757. That's my point.
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758. Miya-san took four months to
decide to do The Wind Rises.
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759. Takahata-san kept complaining,
"Why should I have to do this?"
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760. That's the truth. So I want
to look at this logically.
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761. Honestly, I believe that it's
best for this particular project
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the creative process.
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763. But I think I misjudged
the proper distance.
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764. For that I truly apologize.
It wasn't my intention.
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765. I just ask that you
reconsider this.
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766. Suzuki-san, introduce yourself.
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767. He's actually a big man here.
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768. Don't say that.
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769. You've all met me.
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770. We'll be working together
for a long time.
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771. Welcome aboard.
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772. Regarding the 1,000 sq. meter
plot in Higashi-Koganei,
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773. I actually met with
the seller yesterday,
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774. and we got it.
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775. We're going to build
a three-story studio.
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776. First floor, second floor...
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777. Basically, our foremost
objective here...
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778. is making good films.
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779. No guarantees of
lifetime employment here.
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780. But companies are just
conduits for money.
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781. Its success isn't our priority.
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782. What's important is that
you're doing what you want,
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784. If Ghibli ceases to appeal
to you, then just quit.
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785. Because I'll do the same.
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786. Always the same predictable stuff
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787. Always recycling the same shots
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788. It'll turn into a boring show
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789. And the fad will be over
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790. Work for it, Ken!
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791. Work for it, Ken!
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792. Until you can reach the sun
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793. Work for it, Ken!
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794. Work for it, Ken!
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795. Work for it,
Ken, The Wild Boy!
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796. It's taken on so much
and gotten so big.
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797. But, well... that's it.
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798. Aren't you worried about
the studio's future?
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799. The future is clear.
It's going to fall apart.
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801. What's the use worrying?
It's inevitable.
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802. "Ghibli" is just a random name
I got from an airplane.
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804. How pretty.
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805. - It's okay to fall down.
- Right.
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806. Get back up and keep trying.
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807. That's right.
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808. - That's important.
- Thank you.
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815. - Oh, hello.
- Go on.
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a very interesting issue,
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818. Glancing sideways while turning
makes the character look vulgar.
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821. "I've already told the doctor,"
it makes her look mean.
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822. It makes her look arrogant,
like she's in charge.
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egos against one another.
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827. After you bow, back then
you didn't go back all the way.
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828. Watch me, I'll demonstrate.
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829. "Thank you." See, I didn't
straighten all the way back.
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830. If I popped straight back up,
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and arrogant in those days.
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834. See, that's Japanese etiquette.
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835. That's all.
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836. So be mindful of the glance,
and the bow.
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837. But I won't fix my mistake
on that long dialogue.
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838. That's my own blunder
I'll have to live with.
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839. Thank you.
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840. - It's so hard.
- It is.
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- Me, too.
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844. that he's having trouble
drawing the Zero.
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845. This is where all
the deceased fly by.
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too attached to them.
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851. But I asked him and he said
he just can't draw them.
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question about the plane,
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sort of annoyed.
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get really angry at me,
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856. so I decided to shut up and
just draw what's on the layout.
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857. Maybe I'm an eccentric.
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858. Not a typical plane fanatic.
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859. Only one plane I want to make
And for only one person
Not a typical plane fanatic.
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860. Only one plane I want to make
And for only one person
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861. Only one plane I want to make
And for only one person
I don't like Zero fanatics.
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863. They just obsessed over it.
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864. Otakus don't ever learn anything.
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865. - So you're not an otaku?
- No, I'm not.
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- That's a quick ascent.
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- Right.
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868. Oops, the propeller fell.
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869. That was over 8 seconds.
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870. You'll live long.
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871. I don't want to live
a long life as an invalid.
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872. Not that kind of long life.
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873. I see people like that,
I wish they'd just go.
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874. Like, "No need to hang on.
Go ahead and die."
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875. "Just go!"
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876. No struggle, you'll just
croak one day.
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877. Miya-san has so much energy.
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878. He really does.
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879. He's really good at
taking care of himself.
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880. His health?
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881. Have you noticed?
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882. He really protects himself.
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883. But I've seen him in tatters.
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884. No, he's...
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885. - Acting?
- Yup.
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886. He does it instinctively.
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887. He's a genius at making
others' energy his own.
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888. - Takahata-san, too.
- Right.
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889. - Always been that way.
- Yup.
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890. Don't fall for it.
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891. Scary.
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892. For Miya-san, his staff
are like his pawns.
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893. Is that right?
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894. In trying to meet
Miyazaki-san's demands,
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895. there are some people
who get worn out.
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896. Unable to meet his demands,
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897. some people kind of
lose their motivation
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898. and lose hope, thinking
they failed, you know?
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899. I guess it's really difficult
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900. to work with someone like him.
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901. You might think
talented people do fine,
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902. but some talented people
have quit here, too,
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903. because it's tough.
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904. The more talented you are,
the more he demands.
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905. This may sound ungrateful,
but if you want...
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906. to protect yourself,
you may want to stay away.
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907. Maybe it's worth it
if you're willing...
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908. to sacrifice yourself
to gain something
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909. or you just really want
to work with him.
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910. But if there's anything in you
that you want to protect,
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911. you may not want to be
around him long.
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912. It's not because I'm too
attached to Zeros, you know.
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913. It's difficult for me.
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914. All these emotions
jostling around inside.
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915. What is it?
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916. What is it? What is it?
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917. What is it? What is it? What is it?
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918. Not this.
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919. He asks for the impossible.
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920. It's not really about how
the Zeros actually flew.
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921. He has a picture in his head
of how he wishes Zeros flew.
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922. How could another person
ever hope to draw that?
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923. It's impossible.
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924. That's the issue.
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925. This Zero in his head,
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926. how can anyone see
how beautifully it flies.
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927. If that's what he's after,
no matter who draws it,
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928. he'll never nod "yes".
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929. Can't draw it.
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930. Miya-san has this idealism in him.
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931. He's a fascinating man.
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932. He should just draw it.
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933. But he's got this fantasy
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934. that his younger self
could draw this.
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935. But personally, I think
it would've been the same.
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936. Basically, he expects perfection.
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937. He's an idealist.
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938. That's impressive,
after all these years.
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939. I have to take sleeping pills.
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940. How else can I sleep?
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941. Phew...
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942. I'm actually very manic-depressive.
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943. Today's over with.
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944. I should draw better tomorrow.
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945. I'm bummed, though.
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946. Dammit.
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947. I don't even know if
we have a movie here.
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948. I really don't know, to be honest.
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949. But the film will not
wait for its director.
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950. 13:00 - Anno
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951. I see everyone's nervous,
so I'll relax.
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952. - Please do.
- I will.
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953. Good luck.
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954. You, there.
Come, take my seat.
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955. Pardon me. Please.
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956. Let's try the next scene.
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957. What about your luggage?
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958. Don't let your voice trail off.
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959. What about your luggage?
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960. Right.
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961. You, there.
Come, take my seat.
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962. Pardon me.
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963. It's okay.
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964. Sounding good?
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965. We'll see about that.
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966. You, there.
Come, take my seat.
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967. Pardon me.
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968. What do you think?
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969. Thank you.
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970. Thank you.
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971. Losing energy.
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972. Thank you.
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973. Thank you.
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974. Thank you.
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975. That one was good.
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976. It's promising.
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977. It'll work?
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978. We'll see about that.
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979. Well, let's see how it goes.
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980. An earthquake... Tremors...
Copy !req
981. An earthquake, earthquake.
Copy !req
982. An earthquake!
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983. Come rest upstairs.
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984. No, he'll start chiding me.
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985. I'll bring some coffee.
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986. Will it work?
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987. I think so, if we're
willing to go all in.
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988. - I actually feel relieved.
- Great.
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989. You should come upstairs.
You're getting high marks.
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990. I won't fall for that.
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991. No, really, you don't have to worry.
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992. He's fun to bully.
Copy !req
993. Miyazaki received a letter
from an unfamiliar man
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994. two months before
the film's completion.
Copy !req
995. I got a letter the other day.
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996. During the war, I was evacuated
to Utsunomiya for a time.
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997. This man lived in the neighborhood
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998. and he's 4 years older, 76 now.
Copy !req
999. The area was on fire
and his home burned down,
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1000. while our home somehow survived.
Copy !req
1001. The fire died down,
but he lost his home,
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1002. and they happened to
find our house.
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1003. And since no one was home,
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1004. apparently they sat down just
inside the front door to rest.
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1005. Suddenly, my father came home.
Copy !req
1006. They apologized, but
he said, "It's fine."
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1007. Father went in to get
something, came back,
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1008. and gave them chocolates.
Copy !req
1009. Chocolates were rare then.
Copy !req
1010. How did he get them?
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1011. I don't remember getting any.
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1012. I guess he had them stashed away.
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1013. It left a deep impression on him.
So that's what he wrote me about.
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1014. It's very much like
my father to do that.
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1015. Being welcomed instead of
being chased out
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1016. probably shaped the way
this man looked at the world.
Copy !req
1017. My father was 28 then.
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1018. I was glad to hear this.
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1019. I want to reply to him,
but I don't know how.
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1020. Meanwhile, my father got rich
selling airplane parts.
Copy !req
1021. Talk about a contradiction.
Copy !req
1022. I used to argue with him,
saying he supported the war.
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1023. But he gave the kid chocolate.
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1024. It was nice to hear.
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1025. Fate is funny, isn't it?
Copy !req
1026. Paku-san walked two days
and no one gave him anything.
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1027. Not even potato vines.
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1028. Look what happened to him.
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1029. Is Takahata-san progressing?
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1030. I mean...
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1031. Who knows.
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1032. Like he doesn't want to finish it.
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1033. At least Miya-san wants to finish.
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1034. That's true.
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1035. Takahata-san is incomprehensible.
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1036. Does he not want to finish it?
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1037. Miyazaki mentioned Paku-san
at least once a day.
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1038. Sometimes he praised him...
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1039. Heidi is Paku-san's masterpiece.
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1040. Given all the restrictions
in animation then,
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1041. he did everything he could.
Copy !req
1042. Not only that,
he accomplished so much.
Copy !req
1043. Sometimes he said the opposite.
Copy !req
1044. He's got a personality disorder.
That's Paku-san, okay?
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1045. It's a mystery.
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1046. He must have something special.
Copy !req
1047. I do think that what Takahata-san does
is really stimulating.
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1048. It has appeal.
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1049. Japanese people have a tendency
to flock to whatever is popular,
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1050. but you always need
some kind of antithesis.
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1051. Who is light and who is shadow,
I don't know.
Copy !req
1052. He's always been the catalyst.
Copy !req
1053. He discovered Hayao Miyazaki,
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1054. he discovered Joe Hisaishi,
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1055. which led to their partnership.
Copy !req
1056. He's the one who taught...
or rather, mentored Suzuki.
Copy !req
1057. Without Isao Takahata,
Studio Ghibli wouldn't exist.
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1058. Miyazaki may have still
made his mark,
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1059. but it wouldn't have been
with Studio Ghibli.
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1060. Don't just film.
I came here to show you.
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1061. Are you okay?
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1062. If I hang from this, will it break?
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1063. Who knows, seems like it might.
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1064. It's interesting.
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1065. You know, sometimes I might think...
Copy !req
1066. about the world ending or something.
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1067. I'd never say that to a child.
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1068. This is important.
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1069. Children are what keep me going.
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1070. Not any particular child,
children in general.
Copy !req
1071. In December, we bring out the goats.
Copy !req
1072. The kids remember them.
Copy !req
1073. When they're gone, they notice.
Copy !req
1074. Kids really remember things, you see.
Copy !req
1075. Problems begin
the moment we're born.
Copy !req
1076. We're born with
infinite possibilities,
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1077. only to give up on
one after another.
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1078. To choose one thing means
to give up on another.
Copy !req
1079. That's inevitable.
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1080. But what can you do?
That's what it is to live.
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1081. Looking happy, right?
Copy !req
1082. Or no?
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1083. Who, you?
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1084. At this moment.
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1085. This moment...
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1086. It's the last shot.
Copy !req
1087. Are you happy?
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1088. Nope.
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1089. I'd been wondering.
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1090. Taken away by Nahoko,
Copy !req
1091. will Jiro go on to die?
Copy !req
1092. She says "You must live,"
so he's not going to die.
Copy !req
1093. I changed the ending.
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1094. Not like in the storyboard.
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1095. Nahoko says "ikite (live)"
instead of "kite (come)".
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1096. So after all that anguish,
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1097. I finally have the line.
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1098. Isn't animation fascinating?
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1099. Nahoko...
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1100. She's been waiting here
for a long time.
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1101. Darling, you must live.
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1102. You must live...
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1103. She is gone.
Copy !req
1104. She was beautiful, like the wind.
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1105. Thank you.
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1106. Thank you.
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1107. You must live.
Copy !req
1108. First, shall we drop by my house?
I have some excellent wine.
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1109. Okay, thank you.
Copy !req
1110. Miyazaki finally wrote the letter
he'd been meaning to write.
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1111. "Thank you for the letter and book.
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1112. "I should've replied immediately,
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1113. "but was delayed as I got
caught up with work.
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1114. "I apologize.
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1115. "Your letter brought back memories
of the night of the air raids.
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1116. "That night, when my mother woke me,
Copy !req
1117. "the window was aglow
as if from sunset.
Copy !req
1118. "My brother and I put our legs
in a ditch under a bridge,
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1119. "and mats were propped up
to protect us.
Copy !req
1120. "It was so hot and painful
that I sometimes wonder
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1121. "how we managed to survive or
not lose our house in the fire.
Copy !req
1122. "Eventually we were freed
from the pressure
Copy !req
1123. "and my father, brother and I
sat in the back of a truck.
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1124. "A mother with a little girl
asked to join us,
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1125. "and the fact we left them behind
has haunted me for manyyears.
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1126. "My mother has also said
something similar.
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1127. "But I feel no anger
toward my father.
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1128. "Just a thorn in my heart.
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1129. "The chocolate story is very much
like my father, my wife says.
Copy !req
1130. "That's the kind ofman he was.
Copy !req
1131. "When climbing up the riverbank,
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1132. "my uncle took one brother
while my mother took another.
Copy !req
1133. "My father held a bag in one hand
Copy !req
1134. "and carried me in the other,
Copy !req
1135. "slipping many times as he
tried to climb the embankment.
Copy !req
1136. "He apologized each time he slipped.
Copy !req
1137. "I thought I could climb on my own,
but I kept my mouth shut.
Copy !req
1138. "My father was...
Copy !req
1139. "desperately trying to protect
his family, I believe.
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1140. "Thank you very much for the letter.
Copy !req
1141. "I feel like I've
rediscovered my father.
Copy !req
1142. "Thank you.
Copy !req
1143. "Hayao Miyazaki"
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1144. I'm a Japanese boy.
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1145. I think this is my dream.
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1146. Come on! You can do it!
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1147. The Wind Rises
Copy !req
1148. Thanks.
Copy !req
1149. - Thank you.
- You did a great job.
Copy !req
1150. Thank you.
Copy !req
1151. - Thanks for everything.
- What a long process!
Copy !req
1152. Suzuki-san's hip is gone.
Copy !req
1153. I'm so glad.
Copy !req
1154. So glad it was Anno.
Copy !req
1155. We managed to finish.
Copy !req
1156. We sure did... somehow.
Copy !req
1157. What'll Miya-san do now?
Copy !req
1158. Maybe he'll do one more.
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1159. You think?
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1160. Feels like he could.
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1161. No, I've had enough!
Copy !req
1162. One more?
Copy !req
1163. I liked seeing Miya-san's
sudden turnabout.
Copy !req
1164. - He avoided death.
- Right.
Copy !req
1165. I was really glad.
Copy !req
1166. He was going to have him die,
then somehow,
Copy !req
1167. he shifted toward living.
Copy !req
1168. That's what he was feeling.
Copy !req
1169. I'm genuinely happy.
Copy !req
1170. We were close to having a film...
Copy !req
1171. in which everyone ends up dying.
Copy !req
1172. At least Jiro manages to live.
Copy !req
1173. Right, it's a different story now.
Copy !req
1174. He needs to keep living.
Copy !req
1175. I'm glad it ended that way.
Copy !req
1176. He even added that line,
"You must live."
Copy !req
1177. It's a heavy thing
to be told, though.
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1178. Well, I'll do my part.
Copy !req
1179. - That's the message.
- I know.
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1180. "The rest is up to you."
Copy !req
1181. Right. I'll do my best.
Copy !req
1182. Long time, no see.
Copy !req
1183. - Been a while.
- Right?
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1184. I heard you'll be gone a while.
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1185. I'm here next week.
Copy !req
1186. - But still running around.
- I see.
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1187. Or sleeping, maybe.
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1188. Sorry, I'm looking for change.
Copy !req
1189. No smaller coins.
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1190. Almost done.
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1191. Sure, but I'm burnt out.
Copy !req
1192. Oh, you must be tired.
Copy !req
1193. How old are you?
Copy !req
1194. Uh, seventy... two, 72.
Copy !req
1195. The same age as my mother.
Copy !req
1196. Your mother doing well?
Copy !req
1197. - Never better.
- I'm short.
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1198. Oh, it's okay.
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1199. - Here's another 100.
- It's okay.
Copy !req
1200. Anno hasn't changed at all.
Copy !req
1201. Not in a bad sense.
Copy !req
1202. "You haven't changed.
Still the same."
Copy !req
1203. That's Nahoko's line,
but it's true.
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1204. Except for his tummy.
Copy !req
1205. There's something mystical.
Copy !req
1206. Ah, well...
Copy !req
1207. What do you mean, mystical?
Copy !req
1208. I dunno, human ties, maybe.
Copy !req
1209. Human ties, or fate or something.
Copy !req
1210. They're things beyond comprehension.
Copy !req
1211. You can't just create it.
Copy !req
1212. New employees from
Nippon TVare visiting.
Copy !req
1213. Look at this group.
Copy !req
1214. Why was Nausicaä broadcast on NTV?
Copy !req
1215. Tokuma Shoten's president then
was Yasuyoshi Tokuma,
Copy !req
1216. and the man who later became
NTV's president was Seiichiro Ujiie.
Copy !req
1217. You've heard his name?
Copy !req
1218. Basically, the two were
very good friends.
Copy !req
1219. That's the only reason.
Copy !req
1220. That's when we met Seiji Okuda,
who became our main guy at NTV.
Copy !req
1221. Now, I don't know if you're all
aware of this, but Ghibli films...
Copy !req
1222. only air on NTV. Why is that?
Can you tell us?
Copy !req
1223. We value friends, I guess.
Copy !req
1224. I don't know if the term
"friends" is appropriate,
Copy !req
1225. but at Ghibli we do value
human relationships.
Copy !req
1226. It's not about just working
with market share leaders.
Copy !req
1227. Here's an extreme example.
Copy !req
1228. Only slightly exaggerated.
Okuda became our NTV contact.
Copy !req
1229. Since then,
Copy !req
1230. for the 20 years or so that
he's worked with Ghibli,
Copy !req
1231. he has visited us every night.
Copy !req
1232. Never talked about work.
Copy !req
1233. But we talked about
lots of different things,
Copy !req
1234. which led to talking
about family, naturally.
Copy !req
1235. That's what gave birth
to Spirited Away.
Copy !req
1236. When Okuda's daughter turned ten,
Copy !req
1237. Miyazaki had a cabin
in the mountains,
Copy !req
1238. and he invited them there.
Copy !req
1239. So they spent some time there.
Copy !req
1240. That experience is what motivated
Miyazaki to make Spirited Away.
Copy !req
1241. I'll say this,
based on my experience.
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1242. In your work, obviously,
you'll meet many people.
Copy !req
1243. But ultimately, it's about
who you work with.
Copy !req
1244. Only those who choose
the right people to work with
Copy !req
1245. will be able to do
the work they want.
Copy !req
1246. Sankichi is pregnant.
Copy !req
1247. I've heard.
Copy !req
1248. I'm the last to know?
Copy !req
1249. Well, she had her reasons.
Copy !req
1250. She was waiting.
Copy !req
1251. But she's 3 months in.
Copy !req
1252. She's known for a while.
Copy !req
1253. Oh, really?
Copy !req
1254. She felt she shouldn't
tell you then.
Copy !req
1255. The last shot is done.
Copy !req
1256. Thank you, everyone.
Copy !req
1257. I guess the end warrants applause.
Copy !req
1258. Clap for yourselves.
Good job, everyone!
Copy !req
1259. After finishing all his work,
Copy !req
1260. Miyazaki headed for
the rooftop as usual.
Copy !req
1261. Who should be waiting there...
Copy !req
1262. but Paku-san, who's never here.
Copy !req
1263. The flip side of the story is,
Copy !req
1264. if I hadn't met Miyazaki,
I wouldn't be here.
Copy !req
1265. If I hadn't come
across his talent,
Copy !req
1266. everything would be
completely different.
Copy !req
1267. Along the same lines,
when we met Toshio Suzuki,
Copy !req
1268. that brought a lot, too.
Copy !req
1269. Teaming with someone
talented like Miya-san
Copy !req
1270. allowed me to make good films.
Copy !req
1271. Without talented people,
you can't make good films.
Copy !req
1272. When I joined Toei Animation,
Copy !req
1273. I met lots of people,
including Takahata,
Copy !req
1274. but not just him, many people.
Copy !req
1275. They taught me so many things,
Copy !req
1276. hammered away at my weaknesses,
Copy !req
1277. and really forced me to grow.
Copy !req
1278. I even got roped into
union activism.
Copy !req
1279. I said I didn't want
to get involved,
Copy !req
1280. but they insisted,
saying I know how to talk.
Copy !req
1281. Suddenly, I had responsibilities.
Copy !req
1282. So it meant a lot to
meet Paku-san then.
Copy !req
1283. Sometimes he'd be asleep
during crucial moments.
Copy !req
1284. We'd try to wake him up for
a union dispute, but no.
Copy !req
1285. As we grew older, we got
more stubborn and jaded,
Copy !req
1286. and we started to clash more,
but as Paku-san has said,
Copy !req
1287. we really were partners.
Copy !req
1288. There was a time when we both
had passion for our work.
Copy !req
1289. And I'm really glad we had that.
Copy !req
1290. We gave it everything
we had. Everything.
Copy !req
1291. It's front-page news today.
Copy !req
1292. And they quote you
from that article.
Copy !req
1293. Well, good.
Copy !req
1294. This may impact the election.
Copy !req
1295. - The reaction is mixed?
- Yes.
Copy !req
1296. Well, what can you do?
If Suzuki-san gets stabbed,
Copy !req
1297. I'll go and die with him.
Copy !req
1298. Takahata-san will be stabbed, too.
Copy !req
1299. But I'm glad they mentioned
the constitutional reform.
Copy !req
1300. Hayao Miyazaki says
"Leave Constitution Alone"
But I'm glad they mentioned
the constitutional reform.
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1301. Hayao Miyazaki says
"Leave Constitution Alone"
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1302. This notion that one's goal
in life is to be happy,
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1303. that your own happiness
is the goal...
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1304. I just don't buy it.
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1305. Because...
What do you think?
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1306. Do you think your goal is
to become happy yourself?
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1307. I mean, happiness is...
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1308. I've heard that from several
people now and I wonder...
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1309. is that what postwar democracy
has amounted to?
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1310. I don't get it, so I'm curious.
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1311. What about Suzuki-san?
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1312. He can't be doing this
for his own happiness.
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1313. So why does he do it?
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1314. Do you work for your own happiness?
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1315. I don't ever feel happy
in my daily life.
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1316. Really, isn't that how it is?
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1317. How could that ever be
our ultimate goal?
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1318. Filmmaking only brings suffering.
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1319. Suffering?
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1320. Absolutely. Right?
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1321. She knows, she's seen me.
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1322. "It took so long!" she said.
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1323. It really was long.
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1324. Can't believe I actually
want to do another one.
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1325. For the staff screening,
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1326. Miyazaki chose to take
the train to the venue.
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1327. Thank you, everyone.
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1328. This is embarrassing,
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1329. but this is the first time
I cried at my own film.
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1330. Okay, let's go.
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1331. The Wind Rises Wrap Party
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1332. The Wind Rises
SOLD OUT
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1333. Hayao Miyazaki to Retire
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1334. It was cloudy that day.
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1335. Miyazaki was talkative as usual,
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1336. but he said nothing
about his retirement.
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1337. Soon, Suzuki drove us to the hotel
for the press conference.
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1338. Just before the conference
was about to begin...
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1339. See him watering his plants?
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1340. I see him.
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1341. He has no idea we're watching him.
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1342. Look over there.
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1343. See that house with
all the ivy on it?
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1344. From that rooftop,
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1345. what if you leapt
onto the next rooftop,
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1346. dashed over to that
blue and green wall,
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1347. jumped up and climbed up the pipe,
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1348. ran across the roof and
jumped to the next?
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1349. You can, in animation.
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1350. If you can walk the cable,
you could see the other side.
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1351. When you look from above,
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1352. so many things reveal
themselves to you.
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1353. Maybe race along the concrete wall.
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1354. Suddenly, there in your
humdrum town is a magical movie.
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1355. Isn't it fun to see things that way?
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1356. Feels like you could go
somewhere far beyond.
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1357. Maybe you can.
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1358. No, I'm not nervous.
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1359. - Is that right?
- Yes.
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1360. - Okay, we'll begin.
- Please.
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1361. After the conference,
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1362. I asked what he'd written
on that paper he had.
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1363. He showed it to me.
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1364. It was his official
retirement statement.
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1365. This was the first sentence:
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1366. "I hope to work for ten more years."
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1367. Hello, please allow me
to observe you working.
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1368. Produced by Nobuo Kawakami
DWANGO
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1369. Music by Masakatsu Takagi
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1370. Subtitle Production by Aura
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1371. Screenplay, Cinematography, Editing
and Directed by Mami Sunada
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