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stops work at 9 pm on the dot.
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like clockwork.
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in production.
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After spending all that time?
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What's next?
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why this is here.
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- When do they need it?
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- Quicker that way.
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- We need to clear it.
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from Studio Ghibli.
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All your fault.
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the impossible task
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magazine in three weeks.
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Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind.
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from Miyazaki's workspace.
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as they say.
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Almost There
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when I'm past 70?
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Ghibli has nearly 400 employees,
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on The Wind Rises alone.
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I can't do this.
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is adults, you see.
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our customers' demand.
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Naoto Kan campaign.
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so he can speak to you.
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This is Naoto Kan speaking.
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facing our country today.
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since the nuclear accident.
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about the Fukushima disaster.
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by a master doodler.
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- Sankichi.
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but not around her.
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before storyboards finish.
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trying to understand.
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of any guidelines, you know.
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I'm retiring.
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I'm retiring.
That's right.
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no idea what's going on in my films.
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even I didn't know.
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never understand them.
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about this world?
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- What could he possibly say?
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- Right?
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I go clean the river.
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and take the goats down.
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exhibit at the Museum.
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sitting in storage.
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I did four years ago,
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I documented how the Depression
manifested itself in my town.
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manifested itself in my town.
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I think they've all left now.
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but ended up with...
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and the plant exploded,
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so it's not over yet.
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March 11, 2011."
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March 1 1, 201 1
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power plant exploded.
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what took place?
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must sit in another's chair,
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sleep in another's bed.
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can you find your place.
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Can't back out.
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It's a secret of life.
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airplanes and machines...
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that what they do is good,
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They're cursed dreams.
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are cursed somehow.
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wanting to be rich or famous.
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That's just hopeless.
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movies are even worthwhile?
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- Thank you.
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in just five seconds.
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guy you're about to meet.
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July 20 is a no go, huh?
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bring us to 81.
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checking in with Suzuki.
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have gotten only this far by now.
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how should I put this...
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on time or on budget.
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the world is at war.
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carrier-borne fighter planes.
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the company fresh out of college.
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on the same films,
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Heidi, A Girl of the Alps,
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Anne of Green Gables, Miyazaki left.
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no later. Mark it with a skull.
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with him 24 hours a day.
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I knew we could do it.
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abandoned him, right?
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426. To not finish?
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431. it won't be ready.
Let's just say it.
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432. It'll take a miracle
to finish by summer.
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434. Giving up on a miracle,
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435. Suzuki went on a regional tour
to promote the films.
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437. The two meet during
The Great Kanto Earthquake.
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This isn't going to work.
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441. Thank you.
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445. about when and to whom
he shows the finished film.
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446. Not only that,
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many people, who, where.
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448. What will we eat?
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or during the meal?
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450. Will there be lunch boxes?
He thinks of everything.
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based on who's there.
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Okuda is there.
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Miyazaki's father...
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Miyazaki Airplane
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for war planes.
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457. So Miyazaki is putting a lot of
his father into the Jiro character
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459. Hey, that sounds familiar...
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460. Round, round, go round
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462. Bring spring and summer,
fall and winter...
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and summer, fall and winter."
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466. Now the film will never finish.
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467. Round and round...
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469. This'll sound overblown,
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470. but for 3 years I've dreamt
only of Takahata-san.
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471. I'm serious, it's all about him.
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472. Just trying to push him.
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473. Everyone doubts whether
the film will get done.
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475. They know how bad
he is with schedules.
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479. was struggling to find
a voice actor for the lead.
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is that his voice is...
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more on the dainty side.
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483. Not dainty.
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484. More like...
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485. Intellectuals back then had
good diction and higher voices.
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486. Frankly, he's just terse.
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487. He's so smart that
he spares his breath.
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488. It's not because he's shy.
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who can perform that.
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490. This guy doesn't exist.
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491. The people on this list won't
be able to give us that.
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492. Maybe a non-actor
would be better.
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493. But that'll be difficult.
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494. - Then they can't act.
- Too extreme?
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495. - A former non-actor?
- What?
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498. Hideaki Anno? Interesting.
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499. We can't do Anno.
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500. What would that be like?
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501. Anno's voice, huh?
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502. What do you think about Anno?
I'm getting serious.
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503. - He has a weird voice.
- He does.
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504. He has integrity.
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505. Right, he's very earnest.
The man doesn't lie.
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506. What would happen?
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507. It'll sound strange,
but you'll get used to it.
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508. It'll really bring him to life.
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509. I kind of like this idea.
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510. I'll call him and inquire.
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511. Anno, what an amazing idea.
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512. Hi there, I've got
a question for you.
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The Wind Rises, right?
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518. I'll e-mail details later.
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519. Great.
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521. Okay, we're rolling.
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522. You must be hungry.
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523. Here's something to eat.
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524. It's sponge cake.
I just bought it.
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120... kilos per square meter.
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528. Oh, I'm sorry.
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529. Mr. Hirayama is
our production engineer.
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530. - Okay, that's enough, come up.
- Sure.
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The occasional slur we can fix.
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532. With a few takes.
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533. Your voice will work.
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534. - You think?
- Yes, please do it.
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535. How could I say no to Miya-san?
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536. This is shocking news.
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537. Shocking is right.
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538. - I'm shocked.
- Me, too.
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539. But know that Jiro Horikoshi
is no ordinary man.
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540. Never mind the kiss scene.
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541. - No lines there.
- No lines.
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542. Not like I'll be kissing.
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543. I like how enigmatic your voice is.
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544. That's a compliment?
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545. It's hard to pin down.
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546. The auditions were awful.
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547. Actors?
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548. Right, actors.
Not voice actors.
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549. Their line deliveries
are all the same.
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550. They consider the other person,
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551. or pretend to,
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552. and then emote, like
"this is me, emoting!"
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553. - Let's go with Anno!
- Okay!
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554. Yes.
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555. What a turn of events.
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556. It's life in the 21st century.
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557. He was so young then.
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I still remember when I met him.
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560. Nausicaä Memoirs
He sat cross-legged
in his swivel chair,
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561. He sat cross-legged
in his swivel chair,
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562. then he turned and faced me,
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563. and his first words to me were,
"When can you start?"
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564. "Well, I'm still in Osaka,
so not immediately..."
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565. "What, you can't start tomorrow?"
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566. Sure, I remember.
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- Like an alien.
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568. - Alien?
- Like, who is this guy?
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569. What planet did he come from?
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570. He was 23 then.
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in Miyazaki's Nausicaä,
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572. then went on to become one of
Japan's most prominent directors.
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573. Thank you.
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574. When he's walking,
if his head goes up like this,
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575. each step will look too bouncy.
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576. Like a cheap background extra.
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577. We should probably fix this one, too.
Stands out too much.
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578. Feels like it's working...
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579. But feels like it's not.
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580. Never made a film like this.
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581. Though I did make Porco Rosso,
a foolish film.
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582. Even when I had the chance,
I didn't want to.
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583. Why was Porco Rosso foolish?
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584. Because I've been making
films for kids.
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585. That film wasn't for kids.
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I ended up with this.
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590. Sure.
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591. A white sloping path
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595. Unnoticed by anyone
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596. - All alone
- "... all alone..."
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597. Hold still.
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598. Hold still.
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599. Please quit if you: 1. have no ideas
2. always rely on others
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600. 3. shirk responsibility
4. lack enthusiasm
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601. The world's gone crazy, huh?
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602. You know, we're starting
to feel restricted.
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603. - By whom?
- Everyone.
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what we can't do.
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605. Getting preemptive.
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606. Really?
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607. Suggesting we can't
touch on certain issues,
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609. Pathetic.
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610. Not just the government,
even the private sector.
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611. Pushing us back to the far right.
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612. The days of creative freedom
are ending.
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613. You think?
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614. You two are
the end of the line.
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615. In a sense, what we managed to do
for 50 years is all coming to an end.
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616. The writing's on the wall.
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617. And so it begins.
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618. We must live.
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619. I think we're feeling that
sense of dread in the air
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620. that my parents felt
back in their day.
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621. Headed for the unknown.
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622. No one thought we'd go
to war with America.
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623. And getting into that
quagmire with China...
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624. It happened while people
weren't paying attention.
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625. Suddenly, Japan went crazy
and waged war on the world.
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people felt back then,
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to understand.
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628. We're headed that way.
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629. This isn't some kind of
predictable story.
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630. Who knows what'll happen.
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632. It's futile now.
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633. I'm done.
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634. That's someone dressed as you.
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635. Sure looks like me.
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636. Wondered if I was there.
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637. Whatever.
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638. I think some blame goes
to senior citizens.
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639. Younger people are
more indifferent now.
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640. I guess so.
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641. Almost like younger people
have given up already.
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642. I'm not sure, but it's like...
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643. The storyboard he's
worked on for two years
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644. is about to get done tonight.
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645. This is tedious, I quit.
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646. I moved that line over here.
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647. Got it?
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648. So you're done?
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649. Almost threw out your back.
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650. Shall we pop this?
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651. Let's do it.
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652. Everyone, the storyboard is done.
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653. Gather around to celebrate.
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654. Here's the button.
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655. Press it?
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656. Oh, like this.
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657. I'd prefer more of a pop.
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659. Oh, you did?
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660. I did, but...
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662. Yes, but without the battle scene.
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663. This here.
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664. Right, the Zero planes.
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665. This is the only way
I could end this.
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666. I understand.
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667. - This shot is pretty nice.
- It is.
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668. You know, reading it
all the way through,
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669. not sure if this is intended, but...
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670. it feels strongly anti-war.
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671. Definitely.
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672. I don't believe Jiro Horikoshi
was militant at all.
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673. I know what you mean,
but we have to do it.
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674. Right.
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675. Chan-san.
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676. Chan-san.
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677. You happy?
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678. Thank you.
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679. Snowing, huh?
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680. Sure is.
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681. - Happy, no?
- Not at all.
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683. had Jiro reuniting with
his wife Nahoko, who died young.
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684. There, she calls him to her.
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685. He says, "She's been
waiting here for a long time."
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686. Instead of waving her hand...
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687. - More like this?
- Right.
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688. Basically, between this world
and the next,
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689. there are people who aren't
allowed into heaven.
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690. After death.
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691. This is Caproni's kingdom.
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692. She says, "Come."
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693. When she says that,
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694. it's not like "Come!"
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695. More like a whisper.
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696. Somehow he can hear her.
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697. Jiro understands her, so...
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698. he nods like this.
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699. You see, what drives animation
is the will of the characters.
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700. You don't depict fate,
you depict will.
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701. Even if fate exists.
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702. I tried some things to
make the arm look thinner,
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703. but I think it's better
to make it look looser.
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704. So keep it around here.
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705. Almost done.
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706. - Trying to wrap this up?
- Of course!
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707. - Wanna get done!
- Wanna get done!
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708. The end is a new beginning.
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709. Thanks, I'll do my best, too.
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710. Thank you.
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711. You all just want this over, dammit.
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713. He's directed
two features at Ghibli,
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714. and he's been developing
a newproject with this producer.
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715. But business-wise...
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716. I'm not talking about business.
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717. - But look, Goro...
- No, no, no...
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- It's for me?
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721. how do I explain this...
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by accident.
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723. Working in animation?
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724. I didn't start off wanting
to work in animation
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725. and aspiring to be a director
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726. to make my own films.
That's not how I got started.
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727. So naturally, from my standpoint,
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728. sometimes I do have doubts
about my abilities,
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730. So for me to keep doing this,
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731. I need a just cause,
a good reason to do it.
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732. And if I didn't come to Ghibli,
I wouldn't be doing this.
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733. On one hand I want to do it
because I enjoy it,
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734. but when I make films,
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735. I do it for this company,
Studio Ghibli.
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736. It's for the people here,
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737. and I don't mean the business.
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738. It's for the people I work with.
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739. That gives me a reason to do it.
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740. But why do this project?
Is this just for me?
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741. It's up to you to find
a reason to do it,
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742. so if you can't find one,
then that's that.
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743. If I may chime in...
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744. I'm saying don't pin it
all on the director.
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746. Isn't the producer responsible?
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747. Here's what I was trying to say.
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748. The Wind Rises and Princess Kaguya
are both interesting cases.
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749. With both projects,
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750. neither director actually
wanted to do it.
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751. Then why did they get made?
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752. If we really get down
to the truth of the matter,
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753. I hate to say this,
but I pushed it through.
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754. That's my point.
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755. Miya-san took four months to
decide to do The Wind Rises.
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756. Takahata-san kept complaining,
"Why should I have to do this?"
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757. That's the truth. So I want
to look at this logically.
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758. Honestly, I believe that it's
best for this particular project
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the creative process.
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760. But I think I misjudged
the proper distance.
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761. For that I truly apologize.
It wasn't my intention.
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762. I just ask that you
reconsider this.
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763. Suzuki-san, introduce yourself.
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764. He's actually a big man here.
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765. Don't say that.
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766. You've all met me.
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767. We'll be working together
for a long time.
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768. Welcome aboard.
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769. Regarding the 1,000 sq. meter
plot in Higashi-Koganei,
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770. I actually met with
the seller yesterday,
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771. and we got it.
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772. We're going to build
a three-story studio.
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773. First floor, second floor...
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774. Basically, our foremost
objective here...
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775. is making good films.
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776. No guarantees of
lifetime employment here.
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777. But companies are just
conduits for money.
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778. Its success isn't our priority.
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779. What's important is that
you're doing what you want,
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781. If Ghibli ceases to appeal
to you, then just quit.
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782. Because I'll do the same.
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783. Always the same predictable stuff
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784. Always recycling the same shots
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785. It'll turn into a boring show
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786. And the fad will be over
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787. Work for it, Ken!
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788. Work for it, Ken!
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789. Until you can reach the sun
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790. Work for it, Ken!
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791. Work for it, Ken!
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792. Work for it,
Ken, The Wild Boy!
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793. It's taken on so much
and gotten so big.
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794. But, well... that's it.
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795. Aren't you worried about
the studio's future?
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796. The future is clear.
It's going to fall apart.
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797. I can already see it.
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798. What's the use worrying?
It's inevitable.
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799. "Ghibli" is just a random name
I got from an airplane.
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801. How pretty.
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802. - It's okay to fall down.
- Right.
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803. Get back up and keep trying.
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804. That's right.
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805. - That's important.
- Thank you.
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807. You have no schedule.
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809. Her gaze doesn't need to follow him.
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810. She's a natural, serious character.
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812. - Oh, hello.
- Go on.
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a very interesting issue,
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815. Glancing sideways while turning
makes the character look vulgar.
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818. "I've already told the doctor,"
it makes her look mean.
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819. It makes her look arrogant,
like she's in charge.
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820. It's fine in contemporary dramas,
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821. which basically pit
egos against one another.
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824. After you bow, back then
you didn't go back all the way.
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826. "Thank you." See, I didn't
straighten all the way back.
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828. it was considered rude
and arrogant in those days.
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829. "Ah, is that right?"
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831. See, that's Japanese etiquette.
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832. That's all.
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833. So be mindful of the glance,
and the bow.
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834. But I won't fix my mistake
on that long dialogue.
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835. That's my own blunder
I'll have to live with.
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836. Thank you.
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837. - It's so hard.
- It is.
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838. - I'll do this from now.
- Me, too.
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drawing the Zero.
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842. This is where all
the deceased fly by.
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844. but they really were cool planes.
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too attached to them.
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847. Maybe intimidated by them.
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848. But I asked him and he said
he just can't draw them.
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849. I guess it's hard even for him.
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question about the plane,
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sort of annoyed.
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get really angry at me,
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just draw what's on the layout.
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854. Maybe I'm an eccentric.
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855. Not a typical plane fanatic.
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856. Only one plane I want to make
And for only one person
Not a typical plane fanatic.
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857. Only one plane I want to make
And for only one person
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858. Only one plane I want to make
And for only one person
I don't like Zero fanatics.
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860. They just obsessed over it.
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861. Otakus don't ever learn anything.
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862. - So you're not an otaku?
- No, I'm not.
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863. - Vroom!
- That's a quick ascent.
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- Right.
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865. Oops, the propeller fell.
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866. That was over 8 seconds.
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867. You'll live long.
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868. I don't want to live
a long life as an invalid.
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869. Not that kind of long life.
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870. I see people like that,
I wish they'd just go.
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871. Like, "No need to hang on.
Go ahead and die."
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872. "Just go!"
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873. No struggle, you'll just
croak one day.
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874. Miya-san has so much energy.
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875. He really does.
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876. He's really good at
taking care of himself.
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877. His health?
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878. Have you noticed?
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879. He really protects himself.
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880. But I've seen him in tatters.
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881. No, he's...
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882. - Acting?
- Yup.
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883. He does it instinctively.
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884. He's a genius at making
others' energy his own.
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885. - Takahata-san, too.
- Right.
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886. - Always been that way.
- Yup.
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887. Don't fall for it.
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888. Scary.
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889. For Miya-san, his staff
are like his pawns.
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890. Is that right?
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891. In trying to meet
Miyazaki-san's demands,
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892. there are some people
who get worn out.
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893. Unable to meet his demands,
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894. some people kind of
lose their motivation
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895. and lose hope, thinking
they failed, you know?
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896. I guess it's really difficult
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897. to work with someone like him.
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898. You might think
talented people do fine,
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899. but some talented people
have quit here, too,
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900. because it's tough.
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901. The more talented you are,
the more he demands.
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902. This may sound ungrateful,
but if you want...
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903. to protect yourself,
you may want to stay away.
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904. Maybe it's worth it
if you're willing...
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905. to sacrifice yourself
to gain something
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906. or you just really want
to work with him.
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907. But if there's anything in you
that you want to protect,
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908. you may not want to be
around him long.
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909. It's not because I'm too
attached to Zeros, you know.
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910. It's difficult for me.
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911. All these emotions
jostling around inside.
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912. What is it?
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913. What is it? What is it?
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914. What is it? What is it? What is it?
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915. Not this.
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916. He asks for the impossible.
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917. It's not really about how
the Zeros actually flew.
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918. He has a picture in his head
of how he wishes Zeros flew.
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919. How could another person
ever hope to draw that?
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920. It's impossible.
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921. That's the issue.
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922. This Zero in his head,
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923. how can anyone see
how beautifully it flies.
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924. If that's what he's after,
no matter who draws it,
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925. he'll never nod "yes".
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926. Can't draw it.
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927. Miya-san has this idealism in him.
Copy !req
928. He's a fascinating man.
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929. He should just draw it.
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930. But he's got this fantasy
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931. that his younger self
could draw this.
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932. But personally, I think
it would've been the same.
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933. Basically, he expects perfection.
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934. He's an idealist.
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935. That's impressive,
after all these years.
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936. I have to take sleeping pills.
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937. How else can I sleep?
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938. Phew...
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939. I'm actually very manic-depressive.
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940. Today's over with.
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941. I should draw better tomorrow.
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942. I'm bummed, though.
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943. Dammit.
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944. I don't even know if
we have a movie here.
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945. I really don't know, to be honest.
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946. But the film will not
wait for its director.
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947. 13:00 - Anno
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948. I see everyone's nervous,
so I'll relax.
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949. - Please do.
- I will.
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950. Good luck.
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951. You, there.
Come, take my seat.
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952. Pardon me. Please.
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953. Let's try the next scene.
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954. What about your luggage?
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955. Don't let your voice trail off.
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956. What about your luggage?
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957. Right.
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958. You, there.
Come, take my seat.
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959. Pardon me.
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960. It's okay.
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961. Sounding good?
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962. We'll see about that.
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963. You, there.
Come, take my seat.
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964. Pardon me.
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965. What do you think?
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966. Thank you.
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967. Thank you.
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968. Losing energy.
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969. Thank you.
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970. Thank you.
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971. Thank you.
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972. That one was good.
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973. It's promising.
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974. It'll work?
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975. We'll see about that.
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976. Well, let's see how it goes.
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977. An earthquake... Tremors...
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978. An earthquake, earthquake.
Copy !req
979. An earthquake!
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980. Come rest upstairs.
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981. No, he'll start chiding me.
Copy !req
982. I'll bring some coffee.
Copy !req
983. Will it work?
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984. I think so, if we're
willing to go all in.
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985. - I actually feel relieved.
- Great.
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986. You should come upstairs.
You're getting high marks.
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987. I won't fall for that.
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988. No, really, you don't have to worry.
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989. He's fun to bully.
Copy !req
990. Miyazaki received a letter
from an unfamiliar man
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991. two months before
the film's completion.
Copy !req
992. I got a letter the other day.
Copy !req
993. During the war, I was evacuated
to Utsunomiya for a time.
Copy !req
994. This man lived in the neighborhood
Copy !req
995. and he's 4 years older, 76 now.
Copy !req
996. The area was on fire
and his home burned down,
Copy !req
997. while our home somehow survived.
Copy !req
998. The fire died down,
but he lost his home,
Copy !req
999. and they happened to
find our house.
Copy !req
1000. And since no one was home,
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1001. apparently they sat down just
inside the front door to rest.
Copy !req
1002. Suddenly, my father came home.
Copy !req
1003. They apologized, but
he said, "It's fine."
Copy !req
1004. Father went in to get
something, came back,
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1005. and gave them chocolates.
Copy !req
1006. Chocolates were rare then.
Copy !req
1007. How did he get them?
Copy !req
1008. I don't remember getting any.
Copy !req
1009. I guess he had them stashed away.
Copy !req
1010. It left a deep impression on him.
So that's what he wrote me about.
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1011. It's very much like
my father to do that.
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1012. Being welcomed instead of
being chased out
Copy !req
1013. probably shaped the way
this man looked at the world.
Copy !req
1014. My father was 28 then.
Copy !req
1015. I was glad to hear this.
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1016. I want to reply to him,
but I don't know how.
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1017. Meanwhile, my father got rich
selling airplane parts.
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1018. Talk about a contradiction.
Copy !req
1019. I used to argue with him,
saying he supported the war.
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1020. But he gave the kid chocolate.
Copy !req
1021. It was nice to hear.
Copy !req
1022. Fate is funny, isn't it?
Copy !req
1023. Paku-san walked two days
and no one gave him anything.
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1024. Not even potato vines.
Copy !req
1025. Look what happened to him.
Copy !req
1026. Is Takahata-san progressing?
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1027. I mean...
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1028. Who knows.
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1029. Like he doesn't want to finish it.
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1030. At least Miya-san wants to finish.
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1031. That's true.
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1032. Takahata-san is incomprehensible.
Copy !req
1033. Does he not want to finish it?
Copy !req
1034. Miyazaki mentioned Paku-san
at least once a day.
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1035. Sometimes he praised him...
Copy !req
1036. Heidi is Paku-san's masterpiece.
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1037. Given all the restrictions
in animation then,
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1038. he did everything he could.
Copy !req
1039. Not only that,
he accomplished so much.
Copy !req
1040. Sometimes he said the opposite.
Copy !req
1041. He's got a personality disorder.
That's Paku-san, okay?
Copy !req
1042. It's a mystery.
Copy !req
1043. He must have something special.
Copy !req
1044. I do think that what Takahata-san does
is really stimulating.
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1045. It has appeal.
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1046. Japanese people have a tendency
to flock to whatever is popular,
Copy !req
1047. but you always need
some kind of antithesis.
Copy !req
1048. Who is light and who is shadow,
I don't know.
Copy !req
1049. He's always been the catalyst.
Copy !req
1050. He discovered Hayao Miyazaki,
Copy !req
1051. he discovered Joe Hisaishi,
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1052. which led to their partnership.
Copy !req
1053. He's the one who taught...
or rather, mentored Suzuki.
Copy !req
1054. Without Isao Takahata,
Studio Ghibli wouldn't exist.
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1055. Miyazaki may have still
made his mark,
Copy !req
1056. but it wouldn't have been
with Studio Ghibli.
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1057. Don't just film.
I came here to show you.
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1058. Are you okay?
Copy !req
1059. If I hang from this, will it break?
Copy !req
1060. Who knows, seems like it might.
Copy !req
1061. It's interesting.
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1062. You know, sometimes I might think...
Copy !req
1063. about the world ending or something.
Copy !req
1064. I'd never say that to a child.
Copy !req
1065. This is important.
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1066. Children are what keep me going.
Copy !req
1067. Not any particular child,
children in general.
Copy !req
1068. In December, we bring out the goats.
Copy !req
1069. The kids remember them.
Copy !req
1070. When they're gone, they notice.
Copy !req
1071. Kids really remember things, you see.
Copy !req
1072. Problems begin
the moment we're born.
Copy !req
1073. We're born with
infinite possibilities,
Copy !req
1074. only to give up on
one after another.
Copy !req
1075. To choose one thing means
to give up on another.
Copy !req
1076. That's inevitable.
Copy !req
1077. But what can you do?
That's what it is to live.
Copy !req
1078. Looking happy, right?
Copy !req
1079. Or no?
Copy !req
1080. Who, you?
Copy !req
1081. At this moment.
Copy !req
1082. This moment...
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1083. It's the last shot.
Copy !req
1084. Are you happy?
Copy !req
1085. Nope.
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1086. I'd been wondering.
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1087. Taken away by Nahoko,
Copy !req
1088. will Jiro go on to die?
Copy !req
1089. She says "You must live,"
so he's not going to die.
Copy !req
1090. I changed the ending.
Copy !req
1091. Not like in the storyboard.
Copy !req
1092. Nahoko says "ikite
instead of "kite.
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1093. So after all that anguish,
Copy !req
1094. I finally have the line.
Copy !req
1095. Isn't animation fascinating?
Copy !req
1096. Nahoko...
Copy !req
1097. She's been waiting here
for a long time.
Copy !req
1098. Darling, you must live.
Copy !req
1099. You must live...
Copy !req
1100. She is gone.
Copy !req
1101. She was beautiful, like the wind.
Copy !req
1102. Thank you.
Copy !req
1103. Thank you.
Copy !req
1104. You must live.
Copy !req
1105. First, shall we drop by my house?
I have some excellent wine.
Copy !req
1106. Okay, thank you.
Copy !req
1107. Miyazaki finally wrote the letter
he'd been meaning to write.
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1108. "Thank you for the letter and book.
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1109. "I should've replied immediately,
Copy !req
1110. "but was delayed as I got
caught up with work.
Copy !req
1111. "I apologize.
Copy !req
1112. "Your letter brought back memories
of the night of the air raids.
Copy !req
1113. "That night, when my mother woke me,
Copy !req
1114. "the window was aglow
as if from sunset.
Copy !req
1115. "My brother and I put our legs
in a ditch under a bridge,
Copy !req
1116. "and mats were propped up
to protect us.
Copy !req
1117. "It was so hot and painful
that I sometimes wonder
Copy !req
1118. "how we managed to survive or
not lose our house in the fire.
Copy !req
1119. "Eventually we were freed
from the pressure
Copy !req
1120. "and my father, brother and I
sat in the back of a truck.
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1121. "A mother with a little girl
asked to join us,
Copy !req
1122. "and the fact we left them behind
has haunted me for manyyears.
Copy !req
1123. "My mother has also said
something similar.
Copy !req
1124. "But I feel no anger
toward my father.
Copy !req
1125. "Just a thorn in my heart.
Copy !req
1126. "The chocolate story is very much
like my father, my wife says.
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1127. "That's the kind ofman he was.
Copy !req
1128. "When climbing up the riverbank,
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1129. "my uncle took one brother
while my mother took another.
Copy !req
1130. "My father held a bag in one hand
Copy !req
1131. "and carried me in the other,
Copy !req
1132. "slipping many times as he
tried to climb the embankment.
Copy !req
1133. "He apologized each time he slipped.
Copy !req
1134. "I thought I could climb on my own,
but I kept my mouth shut.
Copy !req
1135. "My father was...
Copy !req
1136. "desperately trying to protect
his family, I believe.
Copy !req
1137. "Thank you very much for the letter.
Copy !req
1138. "I feel like I've
rediscovered my father.
Copy !req
1139. "Thank you.
Copy !req
1140. "Hayao Miyazaki"
Copy !req
1141. I'm a Japanese boy.
Copy !req
1142. I think this is my dream.
Copy !req
1143. Come on! You can do it!
Copy !req
1144. The Wind Rises
Copy !req
1145. Thanks.
Copy !req
1146. - Thank you.
- You did a great job.
Copy !req
1147. Thank you.
Copy !req
1148. - Thanks for everything.
- What a long process!
Copy !req
1149. Suzuki-san's hip is gone.
Copy !req
1150. I'm so glad.
Copy !req
1151. So glad it was Anno.
Copy !req
1152. We managed to finish.
Copy !req
1153. We sure did... somehow.
Copy !req
1154. What'll Miya-san do now?
Copy !req
1155. Maybe he'll do one more.
Copy !req
1156. You think?
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1157. Feels like he could.
Copy !req
1158. No, I've had enough!
Copy !req
1159. One more?
Copy !req
1160. I liked seeing Miya-san's
sudden turnabout.
Copy !req
1161. - He avoided death.
- Right.
Copy !req
1162. I was really glad.
Copy !req
1163. He was going to have him die,
then somehow,
Copy !req
1164. he shifted toward living.
Copy !req
1165. That's what he was feeling.
Copy !req
1166. I'm genuinely happy.
Copy !req
1167. We were close to having a film...
Copy !req
1168. in which everyone ends up dying.
Copy !req
1169. At least Jiro manages to live.
Copy !req
1170. Right, it's a different story now.
Copy !req
1171. He needs to keep living.
Copy !req
1172. I'm glad it ended that way.
Copy !req
1173. He even added that line,
"You must live."
Copy !req
1174. It's a heavy thing
to be told, though.
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1175. Well, I'll do my part.
Copy !req
1176. - That's the message.
- I know.
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1177. "The rest is up to you."
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1178. Right. I'll do my best.
Copy !req
1179. Long time, no see.
Copy !req
1180. - Been a while.
- Right?
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1181. I heard you'll be gone a while.
Copy !req
1182. I'm here next week.
Copy !req
1183. - But still running around.
- I see.
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1184. Or sleeping, maybe.
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1185. Sorry, I'm looking for change.
Copy !req
1186. No smaller coins.
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1187. Almost done.
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1188. Sure, but I'm burnt out.
Copy !req
1189. Oh, you must be tired.
Copy !req
1190. How old are you?
Copy !req
1191. Uh, seventy... two, 72.
Copy !req
1192. The same age as my mother.
Copy !req
1193. Your mother doing well?
Copy !req
1194. - Never better.
- I'm short.
Copy !req
1195. Oh, it's okay.
Copy !req
1196. - Here's another 100.
- It's okay.
Copy !req
1197. Anno hasn't changed at all.
Copy !req
1198. Not in a bad sense.
Copy !req
1199. "You haven't changed.
Still the same."
Copy !req
1200. That's Nahoko's line,
but it's true.
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1201. Except for his tummy.
Copy !req
1202. There's something mystical.
Copy !req
1203. Ah, well...
Copy !req
1204. What do you mean, mystical?
Copy !req
1205. I dunno, human ties, maybe.
Copy !req
1206. Human ties, or fate or something.
Copy !req
1207. They're things beyond comprehension.
Copy !req
1208. You can't just create it.
Copy !req
1209. New employees from
Nippon TVare visiting.
Copy !req
1210. Look at this group.
Copy !req
1211. Why was Nausicaä broadcast on NTV?
Copy !req
1212. Tokuma Shoten's president then
was Yasuyoshi Tokuma,
Copy !req
1213. and the man who later became
NTV's president was Seiichiro Ujiie.
Copy !req
1214. You've heard his name?
Copy !req
1215. Basically, the two were
very good friends.
Copy !req
1216. That's the only reason.
Copy !req
1217. That's when we met Seiji Okuda,
who became our main guy at NTV.
Copy !req
1218. Now, I don't know if you're all
aware of this, but Ghibli films...
Copy !req
1219. only air on NTV. Why is that?
Can you tell us?
Copy !req
1220. We value friends, I guess.
Copy !req
1221. I don't know if the term
"friends" is appropriate,
Copy !req
1222. but at Ghibli we do value
human relationships.
Copy !req
1223. It's not about just working
with market share leaders.
Copy !req
1224. Here's an extreme example.
Copy !req
1225. Only slightly exaggerated.
Okuda became our NTV contact.
Copy !req
1226. Since then,
Copy !req
1227. for the 20 years or so that
he's worked with Ghibli,
Copy !req
1228. he has visited us every night.
Copy !req
1229. Never talked about work.
Copy !req
1230. But we talked about
lots of different things,
Copy !req
1231. which led to talking
about family, naturally.
Copy !req
1232. That's what gave birth
to Spirited Away.
Copy !req
1233. When Okuda's daughter turned ten,
Copy !req
1234. Miyazaki had a cabin
in the mountains,
Copy !req
1235. and he invited them there.
Copy !req
1236. So they spent some time there.
Copy !req
1237. That experience is what motivated
Miyazaki to make Spirited Away.
Copy !req
1238. I'll say this,
based on my experience.
Copy !req
1239. In your work, obviously,
you'll meet many people.
Copy !req
1240. But ultimately, it's about
who you work with.
Copy !req
1241. Only those who choose
the right people to work with
Copy !req
1242. will be able to do
the work they want.
Copy !req
1243. Sankichi is pregnant.
Copy !req
1244. I've heard.
Copy !req
1245. I'm the last to know?
Copy !req
1246. Well, she had her reasons.
Copy !req
1247. She was waiting.
Copy !req
1248. But she's 3 months in.
Copy !req
1249. She's known for a while.
Copy !req
1250. Oh, really?
Copy !req
1251. She felt she shouldn't
tell you then.
Copy !req
1252. The last shot is done.
Copy !req
1253. Thank you, everyone.
Copy !req
1254. I guess the end warrants applause.
Copy !req
1255. Clap for yourselves.
Good job, everyone!
Copy !req
1256. After finishing all his work,
Copy !req
1257. Miyazaki headed for
the rooftop as usual.
Copy !req
1258. Who should be waiting there...
Copy !req
1259. but Paku-san, who's never here.
Copy !req
1260. The flip side of the story is,
Copy !req
1261. if I hadn't met Miyazaki,
I wouldn't be here.
Copy !req
1262. If I hadn't come
across his talent,
Copy !req
1263. everything would be
completely different.
Copy !req
1264. Along the same lines,
when we met Toshio Suzuki,
Copy !req
1265. that brought a lot, too.
Copy !req
1266. Teaming with someone
talented like Miya-san
Copy !req
1267. allowed me to make good films.
Copy !req
1268. Without talented people,
you can't make good films.
Copy !req
1269. When I joined Toei Animation,
Copy !req
1270. I met lots of people,
including Takahata,
Copy !req
1271. but not just him, many people.
Copy !req
1272. They taught me so many things,
Copy !req
1273. hammered away at my weaknesses,
Copy !req
1274. and really forced me to grow.
Copy !req
1275. I even got roped into
union activism.
Copy !req
1276. I said I didn't want
to get involved,
Copy !req
1277. but they insisted,
saying I know how to talk.
Copy !req
1278. Suddenly, I had responsibilities.
Copy !req
1279. So it meant a lot to
meet Paku-san then.
Copy !req
1280. Sometimes he'd be asleep
during crucial moments.
Copy !req
1281. We'd try to wake him up for
a union dispute, but no.
Copy !req
1282. As we grew older, we got
more stubborn and jaded,
Copy !req
1283. and we started to clash more,
but as Paku-san has said,
Copy !req
1284. we really were partners.
Copy !req
1285. There was a time when we both
had passion for our work.
Copy !req
1286. And I'm really glad we had that.
Copy !req
1287. We gave it everything
we had. Everything.
Copy !req
1288. It's front-page news today.
Copy !req
1289. And they quote you
from that article.
Copy !req
1290. Well, good.
Copy !req
1291. This may impact the election.
Copy !req
1292. - The reaction is mixed?
- Yes.
Copy !req
1293. Well, what can you do?
If Suzuki-san gets stabbed,
Copy !req
1294. I'll go and die with him.
Copy !req
1295. Takahata-san will be stabbed, too.
Copy !req
1296. But I'm glad they mentioned
the constitutional reform.
Copy !req
1297. Hayao Miyazaki says
"Leave Constitution Alone"
Copy !req
1298. This notion that one's goal
in life is to be happy,
Copy !req
1299. that your own happiness
is the goal...
Copy !req
1300. I just don't buy it.
Copy !req
1301. Because...
What do you think?
Copy !req
1302. Do you think your goal is
to become happy yourself?
Copy !req
1303. I mean, happiness is...
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1304. I've heard that from several
people now and I wonder...
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1305. is that what postwar democracy
has amounted to?
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1306. I don't get it, so I'm curious.
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1307. What about Suzuki-san?
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1308. He can't be doing this
for his own happiness.
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1309. So why does he do it?
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1310. Do you work for your own happiness?
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1311. I don't ever feel happy
in my daily life.
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1312. Really, isn't that how it is?
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1313. How could that ever be
our ultimate goal?
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1314. Filmmaking only brings suffering.
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1315. Suffering?
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1316. Absolutely. Right?
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1317. She knows, she's seen me.
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1318. "It took so long!" she said.
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1319. It really was long.
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1320. Can't believe I actually
want to do another one.
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1321. For the staff screening,
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1322. Miyazaki chose to take
the train to the venue.
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1323. Thank you, everyone.
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1324. This is embarrassing,
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1325. but this is the first time
I cried at my own film.
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1326. Okay, let's go.
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1327. The Wind Rises Wrap Party
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1328. The Wind Rises
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1329. Hayao Miyazaki to Retire
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1330. It was cloudy that day.
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1331. Miyazaki was talkative as usual,
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1332. but he said nothing
about his retirement.
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1333. Soon, Suzuki drove us to the hotel
for the press conference.
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1334. Just before the conference
was about to begin...
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1335. See him watering his plants?
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1336. I see him.
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1337. He has no idea we're watching him.
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1338. Look over there.
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1339. See that house with
all the ivy on it?
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1340. From that rooftop,
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1341. what if you leapt
onto the next rooftop,
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1342. dashed over to that
blue and green wall,
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1343. jumped up and climbed up the pipe,
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1344. ran across the roof and
jumped to the next?
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1345. You can, in animation.
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1346. If you can walk the cable,
you could see the other side.
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1347. When you look from above,
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1348. so many things reveal
themselves to you.
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1349. Maybe race along the concrete wall.
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1350. Suddenly, there in your
humdrum town is a magical movie.
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1351. Isn't it fun to see things that way?
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1352. Feels like you could go
somewhere far beyond.
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1353. Maybe you can.
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1354. No, I'm not nervous.
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1355. - Is that right?
- Yes.
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1356. - Okay, we'll begin.
- Please.
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1357. After the conference,
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1358. I asked what he'd written
on that paper he had.
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1359. He showed it to me.
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1360. It was his official
retirement statement.
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1361. This was the first sentence:
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1362. "I hope to work for ten more years."
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1363. Hello, please allow me
to observe you working.
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1364. Produced by Nobuo Kawakami
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1365. Music by Masakatsu Takagi
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1366. Subtitle Production by Aura
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1367. Screenplay, Cinematography, Editing
and Directed by Mami Sunada
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