1. A federal grand jury
in Detroit today
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of the Weathermen
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public buildings
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and Berkeley, California.
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the militant faction
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Democratic Society.
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is now in custody.
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nation fought a war
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for so many different reasons.
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as emotional, as intense,
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the war in Vietnam.
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Department and did a lot of damage.
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a security guard was shot and killed
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the Bank of Michigan.
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16. The FBI has released the names Mimi
Lurie, Nicholas Sloan and Sharon Solarz,
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group, the Weather Underground.
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18. Come on, you guys. Let's go.
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19. Bye, Mom.
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20. Don't forget, I have
practice after school.
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21. What are you still practicing for?
You already got into college.
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front seat. That's mine!
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24. - Where's Dad?
- Hey, Dad, hurry up!
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25. - There you go. Have a good one.
- Thanks.
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26. - Hey.
- Hey.
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27. - That's $25.74.
- Thank you.
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- No, thanks.
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30. Don't move! Hands in the air!
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31. Don't move! Federal agents!
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32. - Against the car.
- Stay still!
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33. Hands behind your back.
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34. Sharon Solarz, you are under arrest
for the murder of Hugh Krosney.
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to remain silent.
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anything you say
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you in a court of law.
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39. If you cannot afford one,
one will be provided for you.
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40. Do you understand these rights?
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41. Sharon Elizabeth Solarz, one of
the longest-standing fugitives
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list, was arrested yesterday
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43. just outside Heatherton, New York,
30 years after the notorious
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44. Bank of Michigan robbery that
claimed the life of a guard.
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45. - Good morning, Jess.
- You're late.
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46. Well, if I'm not here,
they can't fire me, right?
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47. - You look beautiful.
- Thanks.
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backyard, and where were we?
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50. Hold on. Crime was
Jachanowitz's. You fired him.
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51. Yeah, and I passed it on to you.
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52. Along with the courts and the Statehouse
and, like, 55 other things. I mean...
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53. This is news, Ben. This!
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newspaper, remember?
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and write a nice little story
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while we still have a few?
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57. I'm sorry, okay?
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in the FBI field office?
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60. In theory, although I'm not sure she
ever wants to speak to me again.
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a good reporter, right?
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63. Prove it.
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64. These were major radicals,
Ben, who know how to hide.
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her after 30 years? Hmm?
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66. So, let me see, the State wants to seize
private property and transfer it, right?
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67. Yes, I know what
"eminent domain" is.
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68. I will if I have to. The Court
of Appeals exists for a reason.
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- Yeah?
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that satisfies public use?
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- Yeah.
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76. - We're not gonna be late.
- You wanna bet?
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78. - who bought it from his dad...
- Come on, Dad.
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to sell it to his son.
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80. It's a great family. I'm sure the
jury would enjoy meeting them.
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- All set?
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83. - Yup.
- You got your lunch?
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85. - So, what's last? Math?
- No, I've got volleyball.
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86. Oh, okay. I'll pick you
up after practice.
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87. Okay.
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88. Hey, what's your hurry?
Haven't you forgotten something?
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89. Billy.
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90. - Hi, Mr. Cusimano.
- Hi, sweetie.
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91. Aren't your kids a little
old for this school?
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92. Ah, I came to see you.
You seen the news?
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93. - Oh, they're still reporting the news?
- Sharon Solarz.
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94. Go ahead, go ahead.
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95. - You know who she is, right?
- What?
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96. She was busted, man. She was
arrested over in Heatherton.
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97. - Why are you telling me this?
- Because Sharon's an old friend.
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98. Are you in trouble, Billy?
You know, you're still on parole.
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99. I'm clean, man.
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100. Well, what's going on?
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101. She called me, wanted
to turn herself in,
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102. but the Feds are assholes.
They don't care...
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103. But you can't get
involved in something...
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104. - She's a friend. She needs a lawyer.
- Well, I can't be her lawyer.
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105. They knew exactly where she was going
to be, Jim, all right? Exactly. They knew.
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106. - This is out of my league.
- They knew exactly.
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108. - I can't let her twist in the wind.
- I can't do it.
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109. I have a kid that
just lost her mom.
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110. It's been a year.
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111. Sorry.
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112. Call Maggie Hart.
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113. Lockwood and Dunlop, Philly.
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114. Okay? She's great. Better than me.
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115. Sorry.
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116. Please set it here.
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117. Go ahead.
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118. - So, you moved her this morning?
- Why do you care?
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119. - I thought you were covering politics now.
- Well, I'm multi-talented.
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120. How come she was arrested here if she's
been a Vermont housewife for 30 years?
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121. You'd have to ask her that.
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122. You know, it's funny you should mention
it, Di, 'cause, from what I hear,
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123. people give jailhouse
interviews all the time.
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124. Who do you think you are,
The New York Times?
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125. You say "New York Times" like it's
1985 and you're still impressed.
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126. You're just a local beat reporter.
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127. I love it when you do
that with your hair.
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128. This is a national news story. I think
you should go home and tweet about it.
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129. - I don't tweet.
- Right. You don't e-mail, either.
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130. Can I just see the case file,
for old times' sake? Please?
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131. You think, 'cause we
hooked up in college,
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132. I'm gonna give you
access to FBI wiretaps?
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133. Wiretaps?
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134. - What wiretaps?
- This is why I don't talk to you.
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135. And we didn't just hook up
in college, okay? We were...
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136. I have to go.
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137. - New sheriff in town?
- You, you...
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138. - How can you tell?
- That's how it usually goes, right?
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139. Big case like this, they usually
bring in someone from out of town,
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141. 'Course, the local field office should
at least get credit in the local paper.
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142. Why don't I go put in a good word
for you? I'm a very social guy.
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143. Billy Cusimano.
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144. - Organic grocery guy?
- It didn't come from me.
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145. No, just a "well-placed, extremely
attractive government source."
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146. Cusimano.
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147. Hey, Dad. Here?
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148. Yeah.
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149. Hello.
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150. Billy Cusimano?
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151. My name's Ben Shepard,
from the Albany Sun Times.
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152. I wanted to ask you a few questions
about the Sharon Solarz arrest.
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153. You can, but why would
I comment about that?
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154. Well, you know her, don't you?
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155. No, I don't.
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156. A quick search of police records
shows you and Sharon together...
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157. - in Mendocino in 1971.
- I've never been to Mendocino.
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158. That's not true, is it?
You were dealing hash there
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159. for an outfit called The
Brotherhood of Eternal Love,
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160. which is a great name, by the way.
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161. Sharon been in touch recently?
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162. Look, I know she called
you prior to her arrest.
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163. You talked to Jim Grant?
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164. No, I talked to the FBI.
Who's Jim Grant?
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165. Who's the FBI?
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166. Well, they had you on a
wiretap here for a while,
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167. so it seems you're growing something more
than tomatoes and potatoes here, Billy.
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168. Shit. That's why I
pay taxes, right?
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169. So Big Brother can
hack my fucking phone.
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170. - Who's Jim Grant?
- He's a lawyer, man.
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171. - Lawyer? Sharon's?
- Nah.
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172. He wouldn't take the case.
Look, kid, Sharon called me,
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173. - wanted to turn herself in.
- Turn herself in?
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174. No, I'm not saying anything else.
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175. - Everything here is off the record.
- See, it doesn't work that way.
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176. You've got to say "off the record"
before we have the conversation.
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177. - Who says?
- Those are the rules.
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178. There's rules for what
you people do, huh?
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180. She said that I did great and
that she was very impressed.
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181. What did I tell you?
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182. - Yeah?
- Hi, uh, is this Mr. Grant?
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183. This is Ben Shepard from
the Albany Sun Times.
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184. Oh, yes?
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185. Just wondered if you'd care to
comment on the Sharon Solarz arrest?
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186. - What?
- The Sharon Solarz arrest.
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187. You declined to take her
case, and I was just...
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188. You know, I'm just sitting
down to dinner right now.
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189. - Uh, I gotta call you back, okay?
- Uh, sir, I just...
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drew to a close,
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191. Students for a Democratic Society,
the leading student group
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192. opposed to the war in Vietnam,
had its power usurped
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193. by a more militant faction known as
the Weather Underground Organization.
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194. Frustrated with years
of non-violent protests
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the so-called Weathermen
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America's involvement in Vietnam
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the anti-war movement
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against government institutions,
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200. including bombing the Pentagon, the
US Capitol and the State Department.
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201. No group has been more successful
in carrying out attacks on US soil.
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202. - What's wrong?
- Nothing.
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203. - You look weird.
- I'm fine, honey.
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204. You're lying.
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205. I'm not lying.
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you're smiling.
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207. - I'm not smiling.
- "I'm not smiling."
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208. Well, maybe I'm happy. Here.
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209. Come on, eat.
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210. I'm gonna get ready.
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211. - Hey.
- Hey.
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212. - You Jim Grant, by chance?
- Not by chance.
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countersignatures from Roger, please?
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214. Yup.
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215. I'm Ben Shepard, Albany Sun Times.
We spoke on the phone.
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216. - I just figured I'd come by and say...
- I don't really have anything to say.
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217. Oh, and, Susan, would you pull
out the Rochester files from...
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218. You don't know what I'm
going to ask you yet.
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deposition... What?
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220. I said, you don't know what
I'm going to ask you yet.
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222. Well, I could just put "refused
to answer any questions."
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223. - What?
- I'm just doing a little background, sir.
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226. Thank you. Thank you.
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227. Uh, no, no. We're off
the record here.
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- All of it.
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229. Whatever it is we're going to be talking
about here, otherwise you can leave, now.
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230. No, that's fine.
It's not important.
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you prior to her arrest?
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232. Does it matter, since you
already printed that she did?
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233. Actually, what was printed was
that she may have approached
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234. a public interest lawyer who
declined to take the case,
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236. There are 25 lawyers in the area.
Nine do criminal, six do accidents,
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closings, and then there's me.
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238. - I wasn't insinuating...
- To hell with accuracy, huh?
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whatever sticks... That how it works?
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240. Nothing I wrote was false.
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241. You made it seem like I was
harboring a known fugitive.
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242. We can issue a correction.
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243. Sharon Solarz did not contact me,
and I have no involvement in her case.
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244. - Really?
- Really.
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245. You know she's now being represented
by a Margaret Hart in Philadelphia?
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246. Right.
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247. Miss Hart was a classmate
of yours in law school.
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248. Mmm-hmm. Lawyers know
each other. That's news?
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249. Yeah, but you did refer Miss
Hart as counsel, didn't you?
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250. - Says who?
- Miss Hart herself, this morning.
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251. Maggie Hart's one of the best
defense lawyers in the country.
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252. But why pass this off? I mean, that's
what doesn't make sense to me.
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253. Cases like this don't
come around very often.
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254. I'm sure I don't have
to tell you that.
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255. Sharon Solarz deserves a better
defense than I can provide.
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256. - "Deserves"?
- Thank you.
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you, but we do live in a free country
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to a decent defense.
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260. Now, look, I got work to do.
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cases, labor cases.
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glove with the ACLU.
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263. I mean, this is right in
your wheelhouse, isn't it?
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here to talk about?
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265. I'm not sure yet.
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266. Well, that pretty well sums
up why journalism is dead.
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268. - Why did Billy Cusimano come to you?
- I don't know.
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know Billy Cusimano?
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270. - I don't, really.
- I mean, you do, really.
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back on a drug case. You got him off.
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272. I represent a lot of people. Jesus.
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273. Mis... Look, I'm not trying to
offend you, Mr. Grant. I'm...
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274. Oh, I'm not offended. You're pretty
much exactly what I expected.
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277. Mr. Grant. I'm just trying
to put the pieces together.
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278. Look. Look, look, listen.
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because I'm a single parent
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much on my plate, all right?
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helped, I would have.
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282. Because you're sympathetic to their
cause? You agree with their tactics?
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some kind of an agenda here.
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- I don't actually.
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you fair and balanced?
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287. You know, it's a funny thing. Thirty
years ago, a smart guy like you
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with the movement yourself.
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289. I hope you get what you're
looking for, kid. Take care.
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290. You told me... You did! Forget it!
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- No worries, man.
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- Thank you.
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298. Not a problem. We're having fun.
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through that research?
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308. - Yeah.
- Thank you.
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Bakersfield, California,
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University of Virginia Law,
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312. met his wife while
working at the...
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started his own practice.
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316. This his wife?
What happened to her?
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317. Car accident. 48 years old.
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318. - Wow, that's horrible.
- Yeah.
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319. You meet a younger woman, you have
a kid, she's not supposed to die on you.
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320. She's supposed to meet a car salesman
and move to Vegas, like mine did.
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321. - Anything else?
- Um, house is paid for.
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322. He's obviously a
responsible single parent,
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323. pillar of society, do-gooder,
a lot of pro-bono work.
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324. Right, so basically nothing I
can turn into a story. Great.
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326. I cannot believe you're calling me.
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327. - I know.
- This is a goddamn nightmare.
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328. - Dan...
- I... I...
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to do with this.
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I need your help.
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332. Ray, who's your best reporter?
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- Mansfield?
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- Look.
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trying to link up with the others.
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337. - Yeah?
- Help negotiate a deal, bring them in,
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339. Yeah, well, that would
make a good story.
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340. It gets so much better. So, I go
and I look at the man's history.
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341. Right? See if he has any known
associations to the Weathermen.
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342. - Mmm-hmm.
- Nothing.
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344. Nothing on the man at all. The
man doesn't exist before 1979.
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345. Look at this.
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346. I had it wrong, Ray. He's dead.
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347. Jim Grant is not trying to represent
Mimi Lurie or Nick Sloan.
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348. Jim Grant is Nick Sloan.
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349. - I'm tired.
- I know, sweetheart,
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352. No, we're not going to school.
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354. Well, we're gonna
go on a little trip.
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355. - A trip?
- Uh-huh.
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356. Breaking news this morning
from the Albany Sun Times,
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fugitive Nicholas Sloan
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as a lawyer named James Grant.
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359. Sloan is wanted for murder and has been
on the run for more than 30 years.
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360. All right, people, what
do we have on Grant?
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361. His E-ZPass paid a toll at 4:00 this
morning on I-87, heading north.
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362. The border's already been alerted.
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363. We have an agent
talking to his secretary.
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364. Why don't we have a
better picture of Grant?
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365. We're working on it.
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366. - Well, what about from his house?
- Just waiting on the warrant.
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367. Their bodies are so bendy.
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368. You know this one's name?
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369. The border security cams are still being
checked. There's no matches yet.
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370. Does Grant have any family?
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371. Uh, a daughter, 11.
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372. Is she with him? Call the school.
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373. She didn't show.
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374. Both parents deceased,
brother in New York.
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375. All right, put a
tail on the brother.
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376. I want bank accounts, credit
cards tracked, not frozen.
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377. Where are we on the Title Ill?
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378. I want a bug every place
this guy is known to go.
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something, and someone's going to talk.
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380. Now, come on, people.
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381. This guy's been making us
look bad for 30 years now.
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385. - Just one moment.
- Mmm-hmm.
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386. - There you go.
- Thank you.
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387. - Enjoy your stay, Mr. Graves.
- Thank you.
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393. - What?
- What?
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394. Eagle eyes.
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395. So, tell me something. What, uh...
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396. What was the best thing
that happened to you today?
Copy !req
397. Um, well, I got a pet seal...
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398. Well, not a pet seal,
but a little seal doll.
Copy !req
399. And does it... Did
you give it a name?
Copy !req
400. I named her Harper.
Copy !req
401. - Harper?
- Yeah.
Copy !req
402. Why Harper?
Copy !req
403. 'Cause it's a harbor
seal, and now...
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404. - "Harbor."
- Yeah.
Copy !req
405. So, it's Harper, harbor.
Harper, harbor.
Copy !req
406. Oh, Harper, harbor.
Oh, I get the connection.
Copy !req
407. So, right. Well, where is it?
Where's Harper?
Copy !req
408. Hmm. Not there.
Copy !req
409. Somebody you should love you
should keep close to, you know?
Copy !req
410. We're disappointed in you.
Copy !req
411. You're disappointed in me?
Copy !req
412. Daniel Sloan is on the move.
We're tracking him.
Copy !req
413. See you soon.
Copy !req
414. Daniel Sloan has stopped
at the Rosewood Hotel.
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415. We're keeping a safe distance.
Copy !req
416. You two canvass the stairwell.
You take the elevators.
Copy !req
417. Hey, what's that noise?
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418. It's the goddamn fire alarm.
Copy !req
419. Okay, lock down the building
now. No one goes in or out.
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420. Not if there's a fire.
Copy !req
421. Daddy? Dad!
Copy !req
422. Come on.
Copy !req
423. - Okay, what the hell is happening?
- They're evacuating the building.
Copy !req
424. Shit! It's a diversion. It's...
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425. Contact the local police
and fire department.
Copy !req
426. Notify them that we have
a dangerous fugitive.
Copy !req
427. Send them a description
of Nicholas Sloan.
Copy !req
428. All right, what do we have on
the brother, and where is he?
Copy !req
429. I have no idea, and the
place is completely jammed.
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430. - There's too many people. I can't...
- I got 'em! East stairwell.
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431. Don't move! Stay right there!
Copy !req
432. - Munro's got them.
- Don't move.
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433. I'm her uncle.
The girl is my niece.
Copy !req
434. - I'm her guardian. I have papers.
- Let me see.
Copy !req
435. Don't be scared. It's okay.
Copy !req
436. He's got custody papers.
Copy !req
437. It's Sloan's daughter.
Copy !req
438. Jesus Christ.
Copy !req
439. All right, he handed
her off. He can't be far.
Copy !req
440. Send the second team down to the
basement and post two officers outside.
Copy !req
441. Charles, around the corner.
Come with me.
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442. Eyes on the crowd.
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443. The subway! Woods,
let's check the subway!
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444. Nothing here.
Copy !req
445. Let's go.
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446. Sir, we can't find him.
Copy !req
447. Come on, people.
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448. Sir, how long have you been in
contact with Nicholas Sloan?
Copy !req
449. No comment.
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450. Is that his daughter?
Copy !req
451. No comment.
Copy !req
452. I want to get her home.
Copy !req
453. Fugitive terrorist Nicholas Sloan
had apparently been practicing law
Copy !req
454. in Albany for three decades
under the name James Grant
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455. before he was exposed recently by a
reporter from the Albany Sun Times.
Copy !req
456. This shit should already be
over. We need better intel.
Copy !req
457. We've grilled the brother.
Copy !req
458. Have we gotten anything
out of Sharon Solarz?
Copy !req
459. No, she's refusing to talk.
Copy !req
460. She'll talk to the local reporter.
She's already said.
Copy !req
461. Well, what do we know about him?
Copy !req
462. He's a nothing reporter. Local.
Copy !req
463. Okay, let's get him in.
Copy !req
464. - Can you try and pull it together?
- Of course.
Copy !req
465. I'm serious. Cornelius
is already pissed.
Copy !req
466. Yeah.
Copy !req
467. Hello there.
Copy !req
468. I'm Special Agent Cornelius.
Copy !req
469. - You must be Shepard.
- Yep.
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470. The prisoner is
considered dangerous.
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471. You do not accept
anything from her,
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472. no letters, packages or
messages of any kind.
Copy !req
473. Your time starts now.
Copy !req
474. Hello.
Copy !req
475. Well, you're much younger
than I thought you'd be.
Copy !req
476. Well, that's always nice to hear.
Copy !req
477. I didn't mean it as a compliment.
Copy !req
478. Oh.
Copy !req
479. Still, thank you.
Copy !req
480. You did me a favor when
you wrote that article.
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481. I wouldn't mistake it for sympathy.
Copy !req
482. No. Just clarity.
Copy !req
483. Yeah.
Copy !req
484. Clarity. So, let's talk clarity.
Copy !req
485. Okay.
Copy !req
486. You were on your way to
New York to turn yourself in?
Copy !req
487. How does Billy Cusimano fit in?
Copy !req
488. Billy's my friend, and he did nothing
but encourage me to turn myself in
Copy !req
489. if I thought that that
would bring me peace.
Copy !req
490. Mmm.
Copy !req
491. You know his phone was tapped?
Copy !req
492. Yeah. They got lucky.
Copy !req
493. - And you got unlucky?
- Yeah.
Copy !req
494. Why now, after 30 years?
Copy !req
495. - You don't have kids, do you?
- No. I... I barely have furniture.
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496. Well, if you do, you'll realize
that they change you.
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497. - I have two.
- Mmm-hmm.
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498. A boy and a girl,
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499. and I waited until I thought
they were old enough
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500. to be able to handle it, but
still young enough that I can...
Copy !req
501. So, was it a crisis of conscience?
Copy !req
502. Hmm?
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503. Remorse for past transgressions
that became intolerable?
Copy !req
504. The past 30 years in a sentence.
Copy !req
505. Wow, it must be nice to
see the world so cleanly.
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506. Didn't you once?
Copy !req
507. Most of us led very
sheltered lives.
Copy !req
508. We had no real relationship
with violence.
Copy !req
509. But at that time, all these
kids were taking to the streets
Copy !req
510. in, uh, Japan and France,
China, Angola.
Copy !req
511. There was revolution,
and I wanted to be part of it.
Copy !req
512. Sure. Sounds groovy.
Copy !req
513. You think we were all just a bunch
Copy !req
514. of doped-up hippies running around.
Copy !req
515. It was hardly groovy.
Copy !req
516. Our government was
murdering millions,
Copy !req
517. and we could see horrifying
images on the news, magazines.
Copy !req
518. My Lai, Selma.
Copy !req
519. It made us crazy. We
didn't know what to do.
Copy !req
520. We... We, uh, protested,
Copy !req
521. we sat in, we got
our skulls cracked
Copy !req
522. and the war just kept escalating.
Copy !req
523. And then there was Kent
State and Jackson State.
Copy !req
524. Kids our age were being murdered
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525. by our government on campuses.
Copy !req
526. It's not our finest hour.
Copy !req
527. It wasn't abstract.
Copy !req
528. There was a draft.
Copy !req
529. You would have gotten a number,
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530. and then, all you
could do is just wait.
Copy !req
531. And everybody knew somebody
that was going over,
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532. or somebody that was
not coming back.
Copy !req
533. You never get over that.
Copy !req
534. Apparently not.
Copy !req
535. It sounds to me like justification.
Copy !req
536. I find it hard to believe
that the only option
Copy !req
537. available to you at the
time was violence.
Copy !req
538. We thought that sitting at home while
your government committed genocide
Copy !req
539. and doing nothing about it,
that that was violence.
Copy !req
540. What about you?
Copy !req
541. What are you willing
to take a risk for?
Copy !req
542. I don't know. I know that I
wouldn't blow up a building.
Copy !req
543. I wouldn't kill
anybody for anything.
Copy !req
544. Yeah, well, dissent can be dicey.
Copy !req
545. You can't get to my age
without some regrets.
Copy !req
546. Would you do it again?
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547. If...
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548. I didn't have kids and
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549. old parents that I love...
Copy !req
550. Yeah, I would do it again.
Copy !req
551. Smarter, better, different.
Copy !req
552. But I'd do it, yeah.
Copy !req
553. We made mistakes.
Copy !req
554. But we were right.
Copy !req
555. Hmm.
Copy !req
556. And is Nick Sloan right?
Copy !req
557. He has a daughter much younger than
yours that he abandoned in a hotel room.
Copy !req
558. People do what they have to do.
Copy !req
559. Well, what are you doing
then, here, with me?
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560. I mean, you had a... You had
a choice in all this, after all.
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561. Well, look at me. It doesn't
matter what I say, unless...
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562. I say it to somebody who's
interested in the truth.
Copy !req
563. And it seems as if you're
interested in the truth.
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564. Most people aren't.
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565. What are you gonna do?
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566. My job.
Copy !req
567. Good.
Copy !req
568. And what do you
think Jim... Nick...
Copy !req
569. What do you think he's doing now?
Copy !req
570. Maybe you should figure that out.
Copy !req
571. Hmm.
Copy !req
572. Look, if my coming here in any
way was responsible for him
Copy !req
573. being found out, well, that was not
my intention, and he knows that.
Copy !req
574. We never betrayed each other, not
once, any of us, over all these years.
Copy !req
575. And I'm not about to start now.
Copy !req
576. What about Mimi Lurie?
Copy !req
577. Is she out there living a good,
clean, productive life?
Copy !req
578. Anything's possible.
Copy !req
579. Mimi and Nick
Copy !req
580. were different.
Copy !req
581. Radicals, yes, but also lovers.
Copy !req
582. Mmm-hmm. Did you...
Copy !req
583. Time's up, sir.
Copy !req
584. Thank you for talking to me.
Copy !req
585. Thank you for listening.
Copy !req
586. Hmm.
Copy !req
587. They did unforgivable things, but you
gotta appreciate the commitment.
Copy !req
588. No, you don't.
You appreciate the fact
Copy !req
589. that the bank guard they
murdered had two small kids.
Copy !req
590. It's just hard to reconcile
the woman with her past.
Copy !req
591. - Sir.
- Don't allow yourself to get spun
Copy !req
592. - by these people.
- I don't get spun.
Copy !req
593. Well, you've been pretty soft
on her from the very beginning.
Copy !req
594. We're the good guys here,
but you seem not to care.
Copy !req
595. You write an article that blasts my
team publicly for doing our jobs well,
Copy !req
596. - and you make her out to be the victim.
- I didn't blast anybody.
Copy !req
597. She was turning herself in.
That's what I wrote.
Copy !req
598. No, there was no deal. We had intel,
we tracked her, we made the arrest.
Copy !req
599. Now where's that article?
Copy !req
600. We took a 30-year fugitive off the
street and would have gotten her partner
Copy !req
601. if it hadn't been for some
two-bit journalist interfering.
Copy !req
602. Would you even know who
he was if it wasn't for me?
Copy !req
603. Well, you do seem awfully
tied in to these people.
Copy !req
604. Solarz only talks to you, you meet with
Sloan two days before he disappears,
Copy !req
605. giving him a big head
start, if not more.
Copy !req
606. Perhaps you're a little more
interesting than I initially thought.
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607. We're bringing these people down,
and I hope I don't find you in my way.
Copy !req
608. Agent, I need you to
report to an OPR review.
Copy !req
609. Don't ever ask me
for anything again.
Copy !req
610. What are you talking about?
I thought we were bonding.
Copy !req
611. I feel like I just watched
you get hypnotized in there.
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612. "I was just young, female
and opposing injustice"?
Copy !req
613. That's her justification?
That was offensive.
Copy !req
614. I'm not arguing that point.
Copy !req
615. Where are you guys on the Sloan
thing? You think you can find him?
Copy !req
616. I think he knows how to run,
which means he has an advantage.
Copy !req
617. Terrorists justify terrorism, Ben.
Don't get confused here.
Copy !req
618. Mmm.
Copy !req
619. Welcome to Milwaukee...
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620. Excuse me, ma'am.
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621. Pardon me. Excuse me.
Copy !req
622. Excuse me.
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623. Thank you.
Copy !req
624. Don't tell me you have to go
when you don't have to go.
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625. Hey, hands off, bro!
Copy !req
626. Hello?
Copy !req
627. This is Ben Shepard,
Albany Sun Times.
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628. Yes?
Copy !req
629. Dr. Sloan, I've spoken directly to your
brother, I've spoken to Sharon Solarz.
Copy !req
630. - Yes?
- I have something to tell you, sir.
Copy !req
631. It's important that we speak.
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632. Go ahead. Be quick.
Copy !req
633. Two minutes, but not
over the phone.
Copy !req
634. I don't trust phones. Yours
or mine, for that matter.
Copy !req
635. You get here before ten.
Copy !req
636. Perfect. Thank you, sir.
Copy !req
637. Yes, we are currently outside
the home of Dr. Daniel Sloan,
Copy !req
638. brother of fugitive Nick Sloan.
Copy !req
639. We have no new information
to report at this time,
Copy !req
640. but we are continuing to
monitor the situation...
Copy !req
641. - Ben Shepard.
- Yeah?
Copy !req
642. - Albany Sun Times.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
643. Maulik Bhanjali, Reuters.
Copy !req
644. - Hey, what's going on?
- No interviews.
Copy !req
645. - No interviews?
- Yeah.
Copy !req
646. Hi. Uh, Ben Shepard,
Albany Sun Times.
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647. Dr. Sloan's expecting to see me.
Copy !req
648. Yes, he is, sir.
You can go right up.
Copy !req
649. Thank you.
Copy !req
650. Dr. Sloan? Ben Shepard.
I'm sorry I'm late.
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651. Ah, yes. Yeah.
Copy !req
652. Thank you.
Copy !req
653. Beautiful.
Copy !req
654. So, tell me what
you need to tell me.
Copy !req
655. Wh... Okay, um...
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656. Well, your brother obviously
counted on you a great deal.
Copy !req
657. Were you two close, growing up?
Copy !req
658. He was my older brother.
I looked up to him.
Copy !req
659. I was a kid. I didn't
understand what he was doing.
Copy !req
660. You said you had
something to tell me.
Copy !req
661. I'm just trying to figure out
why you're helping him.
Copy !req
662. Well, I'm helping my niece.
She's innocent in all of this.
Copy !req
663. Mmm-hmm. And your brother?
Copy !req
664. They blew up buildings.
It's been well documented.
Copy !req
665. - Do you approve of that?
- Of course not.
Copy !req
666. Now, if you have
nothing more to ask...
Copy !req
667. Do you think he's coming
back for his daughter?
Copy !req
668. - Is that what he's doing?
- Excuse me?
Copy !req
669. I'm trying to understand his
thinking process. I mean...
Copy !req
670. Why not take his daughter with him?
Copy !req
671. You know, why not change
his name, disappear?
Copy !req
672. He obviously knows how to do that.
Copy !req
673. You said you had
something to tell me.
Copy !req
674. Obviously that's not the case,
so I think we're done here.
Copy !req
675. We didn't ask for this.
Copy !req
676. I don't condone what he did,
Copy !req
677. and I certainly don't appreciate you
manipulating your way into my house.
Copy !req
678. You need to leave.
Copy !req
679. Are you enrolling her in school?
Copy !req
680. 'Cause I'll tell you,
Copy !req
681. this situation doesn't look like
a permanent situation to me,
Copy !req
682. and I'm guessing not to you either.
Copy !req
683. What is he doing?
Copy !req
684. - Buying himself time for something.
- I don't know. For what?
Copy !req
685. I don't know. I'm asking you.
Copy !req
686. Your brother's nothing if he's not
logical, and right now nothing he's doing
Copy !req
687. makes any sense if he's guilty.
Copy !req
688. Help yourself.
Copy !req
689. You know, you should...
Copy !req
690. Holy shit.
Copy !req
691. It's right over here. Lumberyard.
Copy !req
692. Don't worry, nobody's watching.
Copy !req
693. They're on Daniel. They'll
get to you soon enough.
Copy !req
694. Yeah, well, anyone works
for me is an ex-con anyway.
Copy !req
695. Boy, this is some
operation you got here.
Copy !req
696. Yeah, yeah. You got redwood,
you got pine, cedar, too.
Copy !req
697. Western red cedar.
You can smell it.
Copy !req
698. It's environmentally certified.
Copy !req
699. Yeah, I can see you're still into
herbal teas and soy products.
Copy !req
700. Yeah, well, you know.
Copy !req
701. I quit drinking and smoking,
and I gained weight and I...
Copy !req
702. Shit, man, why am
I telling you this?
Copy !req
703. I don't belong to the Collective
anymore. I don't answer to you.
Copy !req
704. I need a place to stay tonight, and a
couple of questions answered, Donal.
Copy !req
705. Okay, you can crash at my place.
Copy !req
706. Hey, it's this, this truck.
Copy !req
707. That guy looks a little bit
like Rick. Remember him?
Copy !req
708. The roadie from Monterey?
Copy !req
709. That is Rick,
the roadie from Monterey.
Copy !req
710. Jesus, I thought he died.
Copy !req
711. We all died. Some of us came back.
Copy !req
712. - Keep in touch with anybody else?
- A few.
Copy !req
713. Steve and Penny, Carol there
in New York and, uh...
Copy !req
714. Who else? Let's see.
Copy !req
715. Oh, I go visit Noah, you know?
Copy !req
716. Oh, yeah?
Copy !req
717. Yeah, he's in Lompoc, you know.
Copy !req
718. I see him a couple of times a year.
Copy !req
719. And, uh, Little Sweeney
and Laura, Horse...
Copy !req
720. Do you know where she is, Donal?
Copy !req
721. No, man. I don't.
Copy !req
722. After the bank, Sharon
came to you for help.
Copy !req
723. Really? How do you know that?
Copy !req
724. Because of the name she lived under
before she married her current husband.
Copy !req
725. It was in the papers when
she was arrested. Coyle.
Copy !req
726. That was you when you
went under in '72.
Copy !req
727. I figured you got married and
gave her a new identity...
Copy !req
728. and then she went somewhere else,
and then after a couple of years,
Copy !req
729. you gave an uncontested divorce
Copy !req
730. and left her with the name.
Right? Am I right?
Copy !req
731. Did Mimi come to you, too?
Copy !req
732. Well now, why would Mimi
come to me? You know...
Copy !req
733. Shit, man, this is a real
shit-kicker of a question to...
Copy !req
734. I mean, to show up and ask me
to trust you with information
Copy !req
735. that makes me an
accessory to murder.
Copy !req
736. Neither of them had any fucking right
to ask me a thing, and neither do you.
Copy !req
737. I mean, I wasn't with
you guys for the B of M.
Copy !req
738. I wasn't even on a damn committee.
Copy !req
739. I was the fuck out of it,
and you know that.
Copy !req
740. - Did she come to you or not?
- All right.
Copy !req
741. - Just tell me, for Christ's sake.
- All right.
Copy !req
742. You know better than anyone.
Copy !req
743. Mimi was not going to be some
kind of suburban housewife,
Copy !req
744. drive a minivan and go to the PTA.
Copy !req
745. She was going to live or
die a freedom fighter.
Copy !req
746. She was married to the movement.
Copy !req
747. The last I heard about her,
she was on her way to Cuba.
Copy !req
748. Ten houses down, the one
with the green windows,
Copy !req
749. but go around to the
side to the kitchen.
Copy !req
750. Now what about you?
Copy !req
751. Why didn't you come to
me for help back then?
Copy !req
752. - I didn't want to go too far.
- Too far?
Copy !req
753. Wow, you stayed?
Copy !req
754. Yeah, for a while. I thought
she might come back.
Copy !req
755. Who? Lurie?
Copy !req
756. Come back? Aw, come on.
Get real, man.
Copy !req
757. Mimi Lurie is nothing but
a dream you once had.
Copy !req
758. Afternoon, ma'am.
Copy !req
759. Are you aware you're
inside the shipping lane?
Copy !req
760. Oh, so sorry, Captain.
Copy !req
761. We're practicing for
the Catalina Cup,
Copy !req
762. but we're too fast to
get in anyone's way.
Copy !req
763. Roger that. Just stay east of 122.
Copy !req
764. Aye, aye. Captain!
Copy !req
765. You good? Got it?
Copy !req
766. Hi, Terri.
Copy !req
767. Thank God for government bonds.
Copy !req
768. My accountant used to laugh
at me for being risk-averse.
Copy !req
769. Oh, don't give me that
"capitalist dog" look.
Copy !req
770. Going legit has its advantages.
Copy !req
771. Sure, as long as bankrupting
people's pension funds remains legit
Copy !req
772. and running good, honest
weed remains criminal.
Copy !req
773. You're gonna want to look at that.
Copy !req
774. I saved it for you.
Copy !req
775. Sharon Solarz.
Copy !req
776. A housewife in Vermont.
You believe it?
Copy !req
777. Shit.
Copy !req
778. And Billy Cusimano.
Copy !req
779. - Who?
- From the Brotherhood.
Copy !req
780. Nice to know old Billy's
keeping the flame alive.
Copy !req
781. And Nick Sloan,
a lawyer from Albany.
Copy !req
782. Christ. How'd he manage
to pull that one off?
Copy !req
783. That's what he always wanted.
Copy !req
784. As I recall, you two
were pretty tight.
Copy !req
785. I don't know. It was
a long time ago.
Copy !req
786. So, why do you think she decided to
turn herself in after all these years?
Copy !req
787. I don't know, Mac.
Copy !req
788. - I guess she got tired.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
789. Times change, babe.
Copy !req
790. Types maybe.
Copy !req
791. Mr. McGowan, this is Ben
Shepard calling again
Copy !req
792. from the Albany Sun
Times newspaper.
Copy !req
793. Uh, as I said, this is regarding
the research that we're doing
Copy !req
794. on the Bank of Michigan robbery,
and I would appreciate a call back.
Copy !req
795. My number is 518-555-1218.
Copy !req
796. Hello?
Copy !req
797. Oh, f... You're not gonna believe
what just happened to me.
Copy !req
798. - The FBI was in my apartment.
- I don't need this right now.
Copy !req
799. Look, search warrant.
No probable cause.
Copy !req
800. - That's a story, right?
- It's not a story.
Copy !req
801. They're pissed because I'm doing
their job better than they are.
Copy !req
802. - Well, you know how to make friends.
- It's not about making friends.
Copy !req
803. It's about making history.
We're talking about history now.
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804. I got your request.
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805. I can't send you to Michigan.
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806. You have to send me to Michigan.
She's being indicted in Michigan.
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807. - We'll get it from the wires.
- No, wires are shit.
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808. This is big. I'm putting us on the map.
People know my name, Ray.
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809. - You have to send me out there.
- Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey.
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810. Have some fucking awareness, okay?
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811. This isn't all about you. I just
laid off my sports department.
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812. Well, who gives a shit about Albany High
girls' soccer? What are we talking about?
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813. - Don't be an asshole.
- I'm not being an asshole.
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814. Why are you acting like
we're not killing it right now?
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815. I'm on the fucking 10-yard line.
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816. I'm on the 10-yard line.
You're stopping me right now.
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817. - That's a bad article.
- It's a bad ar...
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818. It's an exclusive with
the guy's brother.
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819. - It's a bad article.
- You took a shot at him.
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820. - You made it personal.
- He's a schmuck, Ray.
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821. I don't fucking care what he is.
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822. That's not what we do,
and this is not the first time!
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823. You don't just destroy someone
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824. - to see if you can uncover something!
- You're a fucking idiot.
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825. That's a shitty way to
go about things! Got it?
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826. The fact that we're even having
this conversation is ridiculous.
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827. - Well, we're having it.
- I gave you an exclusive
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828. with Sharon Solarz,
with the guy's brother.
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829. Nick Sloan would still be defending
spotted owls if it wasn't for me.
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830. Nobody can do what I am doing, Ray.
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831. - Allen Springer returning.
- I gotta call him back.
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832. I'm in this in a big way.
I need support now, Ray.
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833. I need you to support me.
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834. And you need to stop provoking
people, especially the FBI.
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835. - I...
- Okay?
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836. Okay.
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837. I got bosses, too, you know.
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838. So, what are you thinking?
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839. You know, I'm still wrapping
my head around it.
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840. These people are... They're all nuts,
but none of them are illogical.
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841. You know, if this man is trying to
escape, if he was trying to disappear,
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842. he'd have taken his
daughter with him.
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843. - Maybe.
- But he didn't.
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844. Instead, he conducts a very risky
and complicated series of switches,
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845. gets his daughter into safekeeping,
gets to New York by himself, alone,
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846. which changes everything, right?
I mean, if the guy is innocent
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847. and he's running because he's innocent,
why doesn't Sharon just clear him?
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848. Because she's in custody,
and she was his partner
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849. and that doesn't hold up in court.
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850. Yeah, but why hide for 30
years if you're innocent?
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851. Innocence only gets you so far.
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852. Michigan number.
It's where it all started.
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853. But you're not going to Michigan.
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854. Ben Shepard. Miss McGowan,
thank you for calling me...
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855. He is.
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856. I'm sorry for your loss.
Okay. Bye-bye.
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857. Fuck.
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858. Donal?
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859. Donal!
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860. Hey, hey! Hey! What
are you doing, man?
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861. What are you doing?
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862. I went to get you a car.
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863. Oh, shit.
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864. Oh, what, you thought
I ran out on you?
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865. I thought...
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866. maybe you realized what
a risk you were taking for...
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867. For a guy you hardly know.
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868. Hey, do you remember,
we used to be best of friends?
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869. You remember that?
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870. Yeah.
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871. Here's the key. It's clean.
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872. It'll get you out of town at least.
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873. Call the cops in the morning.
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874. Tell them I came to see you,
asking for help, and you refused
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875. because you're an upstanding,
law-abiding citizen.
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876. Oh, jeez.
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877. All right, now listen to me.
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878. Mimi did come to me. I put
her in touch with Jed Lewis.
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879. He made some introductions,
political friends in Havana.
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880. - Jed Lewis?
- Yeah.
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881. I thought Jed was above ground.
How could he pull...
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882. No, no, no, no. He's got
the list, so he can find her.
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883. All right, fucking run, man.
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884. Call you back.
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885. A security guard is dead
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886. after a robbery turned
violent at Briarwood Mall.
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887. At five minutes after 8:00 a.m.
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888. a man and a woman,
masked and armed,
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889. entered the local branch
of the Bank of Michigan.
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890. An exchange of gunfire
occurred between the suspects,
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891. and bank security guard Hugh Krosney,
pronounced dead at the scene.
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892. According to investigating
officer Henry Osborne,
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893. the investigation is considered
active and ongoing...
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894. "Osborne."
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895. Hello?
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896. Hi, my name is Ben Shepard.
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897. I'm calling from the Albany Sun
Times newspaper, Albany, New York.
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898. I should hope so.
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899. I've left a couple messages.
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900. I'm trying to locate
Police Chief Henry Osborne.
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901. Former Police Chief.
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902. Yeah, well, I just wanted to
ask him a couple of questions
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903. regarding the recent
Sharon Solarz arrest.
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904. He is still...
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905. Alive?
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906. Well, yeah.
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907. Well, he'd better be, or I'm on my
way to the yacht club to see a ghost.
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908. Um...
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909. Um, see, I'm here in Detroit doing some
research, and from my understanding,
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910. his department was pretty involved in
the Bank of Michigan investigation.
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911. I just wanted to ask him a
couple of questions about that.
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912. He's not here right now.
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913. - Oh, I'm just doing a little background.
- But he's still not here.
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914. Well, how about this?
Can I give you my number,
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915. and then maybe you
can pass it to him?
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916. I'd really appreciate it.
I'm quite harmless.
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917. Really?
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918. Uh... The number's 518-555-1218.
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919. That's my office, and I'm
calling you from my cell.
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920. - Thanks for your time.
- Mmm-hmm.
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921. The manhunt for Nicholas Sloan
continues at this time in Milwaukee,
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922. where former Weather Underground
member Donal Fitzgerald
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923. was taken into custody today.
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924. Federal authorities
suspect Mr. Fitzgerald
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925. of aiding and abetting
Nicholas Sloan,
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926. who continues to elude federal
investigators. Sloan's identity...
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927. Nick went to Donal.
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928. He's trying to find me.
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929. You're safe here. You can lie low.
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930. You know, I counted last night.
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931. I've walked out on six lives.
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932. Six sets of friends, six
lovers, six homes, six names.
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933. Not including my own.
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934. - So, you're moving on again?
- Mmm-hmm.
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935. - You want to take the boat?
- Mmm-mmm.
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936. - No, I'm going inland.
- Well...
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937. - The door's always open.
- Thanks, Mac.
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938. You submit one goddamn
receipt from this trip,
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939. you're fired on the spot. Got it?
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940. Yeah, right, like you
haven't said that before.
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941. Don't fuck with me, Ben.
I'm not in the mood.
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942. - So, are you in Milwaukee?
- No, I'm in Michigan.
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943. - Your guy was spotted in Milwaukee.
- I know that. I saw it on the news.
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944. And here I thought
we were the news.
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945. Look, I'm working on it, Ray,
all right? I'm busting my ass.
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946. Good. You got 24 hours to get me
something and you can keep your job.
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947. No shit? My job that doesn't pay?
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948. Yeah, that one, and
you're lucky to have it.
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949. Okay.
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950. You liked that one, did you?
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951. - Well, not...
- Mr. Osborne?
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952. Ben Shepard, Albany Sun Times.
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953. You're a long way from
Albany, Mr. Shepard.
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954. Yeah, well, phones don't
work so well out there.
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955. You're a hard man to pin down.
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956. Apparently not.
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957. Do you mind? There are proper channels.
I'm with my friends and family here.
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958. I'm sorry, I know it's an intrusion.
I just didn't want to disturb you at home.
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959. What?
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960. Can I speak to you, please, sir?
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961. - Excuse me.
- Thank you.
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962. Now, what is it you're here for?
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963. Well, sir, I was just hoping I could
ask you a couple of questions
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964. regarding the Bank of
Michigan investigation.
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965. That was a long time ago.
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966. But you watch the news. I'm
sure you're aware Sharon Solarz
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967. has been brought back to
Michigan to stand trial,
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968. Nick Sloan has been
identified and is on the run.
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969. I am aware.
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970. How involved was your department with
the Bank of Michigan investigation?
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971. This is all in the public record.
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972. What about before that?
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973. My understanding is you
covered the campus
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974. - when they were pretty active, right?
- Mmm-hmm.
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975. Did you ever come in contact
with Mimi Lurie or Nick Sloan
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976. - before they went underground?
- No.
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977. I... I'm sorry, what is it you're
trying to get answered?
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978. You know, maybe if I knew the
question, I could better help.
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979. Well, I'm just trying to understand
the evidence of the case.
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980. Mmm-hmm.
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981. Sharon Solarz was atelier.
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982. She went through the training program.
It's pretty self-explanatory.
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983. But when you get to the
others, that's where I get lost.
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984. Mimi Lurie, Nick Sloan,
Vince Dallesandro,
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985. that's where it starts
getting blurry for me.
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986. Does it?
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987. Dallesandro's prints
were on the gun.
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988. He got caught a couple of days
later on an anonymous tip.
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989. He testified against the others.
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990. He was already on parole.
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991. And ended up dying in prison,
or getting killed or killing himself,
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992. depending on whose
report you believe.
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993. The others were all
fugitives at the time,
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994. already wanted by the FBI,
already underground.
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995. They knew how to
disappear, and they did.
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996. Yeah, it's just this time I think
he's doing something different.
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997. Why should this time be
any different than before?
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998. Well, this time I don't
think he's running away.
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999. This time I think he's
trying to clear his name.
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1000. Well, how do you think
he's gonna do that?
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1001. I was hoping you
could help me there.
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1002. Not sure how.
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1003. The getaway car was his car.
His prints were all over it.
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1004. There was testimony
that he was there.
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1005. So?
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1006. What am I missing?
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1007. - Hi, Dad!
- Hey!
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1008. All right, sweetie. How are you?
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1009. How are you doing? I'm Ben
Shepard, Albany Sun Times.
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1010. My wife Marianne,
my daughter Rebecca.
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1011. Albany Sun Times in
Albany, New York?
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1012. Are you just passing
through, Mr. Shepard?
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1013. He's just leaving.
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1014. I'll be right there.
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1015. I'm going to be heading to, um...
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1016. Um... Ann Arbor for a couple of
days, and I was just wondering
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1017. if maybe we could sit down
for another five minutes.
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1018. All right. I'll be headed back to
town in a couple of days myself.
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1019. - Guess you got my number.
- Perfect.
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1020. Thank you, sir.
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1021. - Yeah, hello?
- How is she?
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1022. She's safe. She's right here.
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1023. Listen, Eva is afraid the
apartment's under surveillance.
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1024. I'm sure it is.
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1025. Well, we snuck out the service
entrance and came to the park,
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1026. and I can't guarantee
we weren't followed.
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1027. Can I speak to her?
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1028. Hold on, hold on. Izzy.
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1029. Where are you?
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1030. Honey, you don't need
to know that right now.
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1031. But why can't you just tell me?
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1032. Izzy, all I want to
know is, are you okay?
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1033. Everyone is so mad at you.
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1034. - How about you? You mad at me?
- Where are you?
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1035. I'm trying to get back
to you as soon as I can.
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1036. Got him. Just off I-94,
near Gurnee, Illinois.
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1037. Send the coordinates to the field.
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1038. - I know, but it won't be long.
- Done.
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1039. You have a full green light.
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1040. - Still tracking?
- Yup.
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1041. He's cooked.
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1042. Okay, send Bravo Team down.
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1043. - Did you kill that man?
- Did I...
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1044. - Kill him? That man at the bank?
- Of course not.
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1045. Then why did you have to leave?
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1046. Honey, one day soon you're gonna
understand everything, I promise.
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1047. I don't want you to grow up and look back
on what I did and feel bad, ever, okay?
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1048. But now you're gonna
have to help me.
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1049. You got to be strong.
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1050. And then next time, you and I will
go somewhere together, all right?
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1051. Anywhere you like.
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1052. Home would be fine.
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1053. I gotta go. I love you.
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1054. You do know that, right?
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1055. - Hi.
- Hey.
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1056. - How was class?
- Long.
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1057. Thanks.
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1058. Hey. Hi.
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1059. Ben Shepard. We met on the stairs.
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1060. Oh, right. Yeah, I remember.
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1061. You don't look much
like your parents.
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1062. - I was adopted, so, no.
- Hmm.
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1063. If that was your pick-up
line, it needs work.
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1064. - You mind if I sit?
- I'm on a date.
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1065. - Oh, you're on a date?
- Yeah.
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1066. Yeah, like that thing
real people do.
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1067. Yes, that.
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1068. Given your manners,
I am really surprised
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1069. my dad doesn't want to
spend more time with you.
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1070. What? What are you talking about?
Me and your dad are good.
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1071. We're playing poker tonight,
taking in a Pistons game tomorrow.
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1072. - Fun.
- Mmm.
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1073. Can I take you to dinner?
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1074. Excuse me?
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1075. Right, no, you're right.
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1076. Coffee then. What do you think?
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1077. I think that my date is on his
way back and you should leave.
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1078. Not until we figure this out.
Coffee or dinner?
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1079. - Persistent.
- Professional hazard.
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1080. - Coffee...
- Coffee, if you leave right now.
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1081. Okay, fine. Deal. Time, place.
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1082. - The cafe at the Union. 2:30.
- Okay.
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1083. You know, this guy's
not right for you.
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1084. Says you.
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1085. Who was that?
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1086. A friend of my dad's.
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1087. "Chance," someone once
said, don't remember who,
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1088. "Chance is a nickname
for providence."
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1089. Okay? Well, which is another way of
saying that all history is inevitable
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1090. because it goes to the
trouble of happening.
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1091. Another point of view says that history
is independent of individual will,
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1092. determined by social conditions
and relations of production.
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1093. "Relations of production." We
remember that. There he is, Karl Marx.
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1094. Now these theories propose
a history immune to effort,
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1095. removed from the choices
of everyday life.
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1096. But history is made
by human beings,
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1097. and action and passion.
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1098. No less than fate or economics
are its essential ingredients.
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1099. Go. Go, go, go.
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1100. But come back tomorrow because
we'll be discussing Fanon.
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1101. Enjoyed your lecture.
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1102. Thank you.
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1103. "Action and passion."
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1104. Sounds like something a
friend of mine used to say.
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1105. No. No, no, no, no.
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1106. Need to talk to you, Big J.
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1107. Go to hell.
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1108. How dare you show up here?
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1109. Where else could I go?
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1110. You're taking a hell of a chance.
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1111. Not by choice.
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1112. They're probably watching me.
Unlike you, they know who I am.
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1113. - Hmm. How's that working out, though?
- Fuck you. I have a life.
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1114. I was hoping for a little bit more,
"Hey, Nick, old friend. How are you?
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1115. "How have you been these
past 30-odd years?"
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1116. For Christ's sake, Nick.
I'm a public figure.
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1117. Do you know the position
you're putting me in here?
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1118. Nancy would forgive me banging a
freshman sooner than talking to you.
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1119. You're still with Nan?
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1120. - Yeah, some of us made it work.
- Yeah, some of you got lucky.
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1121. - It wasn't luck.
- Well, what was it then?
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1122. Jed, what was it?
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1123. We didn't kill anybody.
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1124. Jed, I need to find Mimi.
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1125. Looking for a girl? They got
websites for that sort of thing.
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1126. What makes you think
I know where she is?
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1127. Donal told you.
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1128. Fuck. Fuck.
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1129. Does it matter?
Jed, does it matter?
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1130. Look, the truth?
I haven't talked to Mimi
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1131. since bellbottoms went
out of style, okay?
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1132. I mean, how do you know
she's even still alive?
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1133. I don't.
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1134. Why would I help you after all these
years? We didn't even agree back then.
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1135. Because Mimi's the only person who
can help me get my daughter back.
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1136. - You got a daughter?
- Yes.
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1137. No shit.
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1138. Mimi Lurie.
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1139. Henry Osborne.
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1140. That doesn't make sense.
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1141. Where are you going?
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1142. Let's go. You can walk me to class.
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1143. - Yeah?
- Mmm-hmm.
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1144. - So, tell me about yourself.
- Peace Corps for a bit.
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1145. Hmm.
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1146. Thought I was gonna
change the world,
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1147. decided it was actually people
who needed changing.
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1148. Hmm.
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1149. Went back to school
to study psychology.
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1150. Turns out psychology has
nothing to do with that.
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1151. Ended up in New York for a bit.
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1152. I guess I thought I was
gonna change myself.
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1153. Turns out I'm too stubborn.
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1154. You must be older than I thought.
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1155. So what happens now? If in
doubt, you go back to law school?
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1156. I'm not in doubt.
It's my mom. She's a judge.
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1157. - Really?
- Mmm-hmm.
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1158. So is mine!
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1159. Just not professionally.
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1160. Okay.
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1161. You like Michigan?
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1162. I love it.
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1163. Okay, you.
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1164. I read one of your articles
online last night.
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1165. I read a couple of them, actually.
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1166. - You're kidding me. Really?
- Yeah.
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1167. And what did you think?
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1168. - I think you broke a big story.
- I did.
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1169. I think you're clinging
to it like a life raft.
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1170. Oh, wow.
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1171. - Now it defines you.
- Wow.
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1172. Yeah, I do.
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1173. Maybe psych's not
a bad fit after all.
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1174. I kind of call 'em like I see 'em.
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1175. Fair enough. Call this one.
Your father's ignoring me. Why?
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1176. I'm guessing because he
doesn't want to talk to you.
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1177. Hmm.
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1178. He's retired.
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1179. I mean... And this was decades ago.
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1180. He wants to fish and watch
boats on the water.
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1181. He's also not one for reminiscing.
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1182. You know he was close
to the Lurie family?
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1183. - Yeah.
- Mmm.
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1184. Her dad and my granddad
were fishing buddies, I think.
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1185. - That's what I heard.
- Yeah.
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1186. They used to go up to the
Linder Woods in the UP.
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1187. It's absolutely gorgeous up there.
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1188. You would hate it.
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1189. The UP?
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1190. The Upper Peninsula.
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1191. Oh. He told me he never met her.
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1192. Huh.
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1193. That had to be hard, to live with the
Lurie name after everything went down.
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1194. Yeah. I'm sure it was.
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1195. Did he ever talk about her
when you were younger?
Copy !req
1196. This was all way before my time.
Copy !req
1197. What are you thinking?
Copy !req
1198. Can I speak honestly
with you for a second?
Copy !req
1199. Yeah.
Copy !req
1200. People lie for two reasons.
Copy !req
1201. They speak unknowingly, a simple mistake,
you know, or they do it intentionally.
Copy !req
1202. And having met a known fugitive
who is also a family friend
Copy !req
1203. - isn't something you would forget.
- Mmm. What are you getting at?
Copy !req
1204. In my business, when someone lies
intentionally, that's significant.
Copy !req
1205. It seems your father lied to me.
Copy !req
1206. I'm guessing 'cause it's
some way to cover himself.
Copy !req
1207. Look, Ben, I get that you're good
at your job, but so is my dad,
Copy !req
1208. and I would put the quality of his
character up against anyone in the world.
Copy !req
1209. So if you're insinuating
that he was
Copy !req
1210. or is somehow involved in something
that ends up in your paper,
Copy !req
1211. I would be damn sure you know
what you're talking about.
Copy !req
1212. I may be a student of
the law, but that's libel,
Copy !req
1213. and in my business,
that's significant.
Copy !req
1214. I'd like to see you again.
Copy !req
1215. Bye.
Copy !req
1216. Every sixth and seventh number.
Copy !req
1217. - How do I know who I'm calling?
- You don't.
Copy !req
1218. - Okay.
- Good luck.
Copy !req
1219. Yeah?
Copy !req
1220. Hi, this is, uh, John Smith.
I'm looking for a plumber.
Copy !req
1221. - Are you now?
- Yes, I am.
Copy !req
1222. Wow. It's been a long time
since I've heard that.
Copy !req
1223. Is this line clean?
Copy !req
1224. Babe, they didn't
listen to me back then,
Copy !req
1225. and they sure ain't
listening to me now.
Copy !req
1226. - Who's calling?
- Nick Sloan.
Copy !req
1227. Nick Sloan? God,
I just saw you on TV.
Copy !req
1228. Unless you want to see yourself
there, too, we better hurry.
Copy !req
1229. I need to get to Mimi Lurie.
Copy !req
1230. Where are you?
Copy !req
1231. 845-555-8249.
Copy !req
1232. Okay. Let's see if we
still got the juice.
Copy !req
1233. Hang tight, brother.
Copy !req
1234. You want to hear something funny?
Copy !req
1235. I've been Jim Grant
longer than I've been me.
Copy !req
1236. That's nice.
Copy !req
1237. Come on, Jed. We're
just talking here.
Copy !req
1238. We don't need to talk.
Copy !req
1239. I think we do. You're angry.
Copy !req
1240. Damn right I am.
Copy !req
1241. Jesus. 30 years on and still
holding a grudge, huh?
Copy !req
1242. No.
Copy !req
1243. It was the lack of respect.
Copy !req
1244. You guys put everybody in danger.
Copy !req
1245. We didn't kill anybody.
We didn't hurt anyone.
Copy !req
1246. We were a peace movement,
for Christ's sake.
Copy !req
1247. People make mistakes, Jed.
Copy !req
1248. Then you turn yourself in and
atone for what you've done,
Copy !req
1249. and then you keep up the struggle
in any small way you can.
Copy !req
1250. You like what you're doing now?
Copy !req
1251. Yeah. Yeah.
Copy !req
1252. I like what I try to do.
I like my students.
Copy !req
1253. Seems like it's mutual.
Copy !req
1254. Yeah.
Copy !req
1255. Yeah, I can still pack the
hall when I... talk about SDS.
Copy !req
1256. The March on Washington,
trying to change the world.
Copy !req
1257. They're drawn to it,
I can tell. I...
Copy !req
1258. They just don't know
what to do with it.
Copy !req
1259. I don't know why they would.
It's ancient history to them.
Copy !req
1260. So they listen and clap,
and then they update
Copy !req
1261. their Facebook statuses
and they forget all about it.
Copy !req
1262. We've turned into our parents, Jed.
Copy !req
1263. Yeah. Huh!
Copy !req
1264. Now we're just a
story told to children.
Copy !req
1265. Well, I'm glad someone's
still telling it.
Copy !req
1266. Yeah?
Copy !req
1267. Are you the guy that
needs a plumber?
Copy !req
1268. I am. The line clean?
Copy !req
1269. Thirty seconds to be safe.
Copy !req
1270. - Mimi?
- Was here, yeah.
Copy !req
1271. - "Here"?
- Big Sur.
Copy !req
1272. - "Was"?
- Left yesterday.
Copy !req
1273. Say where going?
Copy !req
1274. North.
Copy !req
1275. By boat?
Copy !req
1276. Would have made more sense,
but she was heading inland.
Copy !req
1277. - Got it.
- Good luck.
Copy !req
1278. She gone?
Copy !req
1279. Yeah.
Copy !req
1280. But I know where she's headed.
Copy !req
1281. Hey, thanks for everything.
Copy !req
1282. You really want to thank me, Nick,
you'll never contact me again.
Copy !req
1283. Everything we have on the reporter.
Copy !req
1284. He's been in Michigan for two days.
Copy !req
1285. Background on people he's contacted
and places he's visited.
Copy !req
1286. Stay on it.
Copy !req
1287. Of course, sir. Travel safe.
Copy !req
1288. Can I see some ID, please?
Copy !req
1289. All right. Thank you, Mr.
Haywood. Have a good day.
Copy !req
1290. I'm looking for real estate
records and plat maps
Copy !req
1291. for the Lurie family,
Linder-Lurie Lumber
Copy !req
1292. and Linder Holdings,
going back 50 years.
Copy !req
1293. Those three.
Copy !req
1294. Agent Cornelius.
Copy !req
1295. Right this way.
Copy !req
1296. So where are the Linder Woods?
Copy !req
1297. I have no idea.
Copy !req
1298. What about Drummond Island?
Copy !req
1299. Well, it's up here, right
across the water from Canada.
Copy !req
1300. And this white part, this
is private property, right?
Copy !req
1301. Beats me.
Copy !req
1302. But, I mean,
it's not part of that...
Copy !req
1303. That conservancy or that
preserve or whatever that is?
Copy !req
1304. Doesn't look like it.
Copy !req
1305. I don't see any sales or
state seizure reports.
Copy !req
1306. But if this is privately owned, somebody
is still paying taxes on this, right?
Copy !req
1307. I don't know.
Copy !req
1308. - Can I have copies of all this?
- Sure.
Copy !req
1309. I'm standing outside the
Ann Arbor Courthouse,
Copy !req
1310. where Sharon Solarz entered
a plea of not guilty.
Copy !req
1311. Judge Panameno remanded
her without bail.
Copy !req
1312. - Mr. Osborne, can I speak to you?
- Not now.
Copy !req
1313. Not talking to me is a very dangerous
decision for you right now.
Copy !req
1314. Not here. I'll call you.
Copy !req
1315. - Look, if I don't hear from you soon...
- You will.
Copy !req
1316. Don't bother cleaning up.
We won't be here that long.
Copy !req
1317. You came.
Copy !req
1318. You look older.
Copy !req
1319. You look the same.
Copy !req
1320. Yeah, right.
Copy !req
1321. Mi, we gotta talk.
Copy !req
1322. So talk.
Copy !req
1323. Come on, Mimi, is this the
way you're gonna play it?
Copy !req
1324. Like we don't know each other?
Like I'm just some adversary?
Copy !req
1325. Aren't you?
Copy !req
1326. Don't.
Copy !req
1327. Okay, so why am I here?
Why did you smoke me out?
Copy !req
1328. Smoke you out?
Copy !req
1329. You went to Donal.
Copy !req
1330. I had to.
Copy !req
1331. Well, I got the message. I'm here.
Copy !req
1332. Nick, I can't help you.
That's why I'm here.
Copy !req
1333. I came to tell you.
I figured I owed you that.
Copy !req
1334. Hmm.
Copy !req
1335. - I have a daughter.
- I know.
Copy !req
1336. She's almost 12.
Copy !req
1337. That's her.
Copy !req
1338. What's her name?
Copy !req
1339. Isabel.
Copy !req
1340. It's your middle name, yeah.
Copy !req
1341. Didn't you love your wife?
Copy !req
1342. - More than you can imagine.
- Oh, I can imagine.
Copy !req
1343. Look, I know this child.
Copy !req
1344. She's probably never gonna get over
what's happened to her already,
Copy !req
1345. and she's got a whole
life ahead of her.
Copy !req
1346. - So I'm asking you just...
- You're asking me
Copy !req
1347. to give myself up so I can clear
you for the sake of the child.
Copy !req
1348. I see. Everything to protect
the new little family.
Copy !req
1349. Fuck your principles?
Copy !req
1350. Fuck anything else you
used to stand for?
Copy !req
1351. Well, the struggle doesn't end
just because you got tired of it.
Copy !req
1352. I didn't get tired of it.
I grew up.
Copy !req
1353. Well, we promised each other
we weren't gonna do that.
Copy !req
1354. Yeah, but it happened.
Copy !req
1355. I left the movement for the
same reason I joined it,
Copy !req
1356. because I didn't want to see good
people's lives thrown away for nothing.
Copy !req
1357. You've waited a long time to
tell me that, haven't you?
Copy !req
1358. And you've been a long time
coming home from the bank.
Copy !req
1359. You were close to
Mimi Lurie's family.
Copy !req
1360. I wouldn't say close.
My dad knew her dad.
Copy !req
1361. Hmm.
Copy !req
1362. You went to the same
school, same church.
Copy !req
1363. You went on fishing trips together.
Copy !req
1364. There's something
you're not telling me.
Copy !req
1365. What are you driving at, Shepard?
Copy !req
1366. You know that Nick Sloan is looking for
something or someone to clear him?
Copy !req
1367. - I know that's your assumption.
- Could that be Mimi Lurie?
Copy !req
1368. I'm off the record.
Copy !req
1369. Think it out. First, he'd have to
find her, convince her to testify.
Copy !req
1370. Second, she'd have to surrender.
Copy !req
1371. - But it's a participant's testimony.
- That's the point.
Copy !req
1372. If Mimi comes out of hiding and
surrenders herself to testify
Copy !req
1373. that Nick Sloan wasn't at the bank,
Copy !req
1374. it's what lawyers call a
declaration against interest.
Copy !req
1375. It destroys her own
possibility of a defense.
Copy !req
1376. - It would clear him.
- Why? Why would she do that?
Copy !req
1377. Why would she give herself up
to a jail sentence to save him?
Copy !req
1378. I mean, what is her motivation?
Copy !req
1379. - You really think she's gonna do that?
- It doesn't matter what we think.
Copy !req
1380. He obviously believes
he can convince her.
Copy !req
1381. Why now?
Copy !req
1382. Why not do this back then?
Copy !req
1383. How long have you known about this?
Copy !req
1384. I'm obviously not the only
person in this conversation
Copy !req
1385. who knows about her ties to a piece of
property just on the outside of Canada.
Copy !req
1386. Mr. Osborne, what's the actual charge
against a law enforcement officer
Copy !req
1387. who fails to follow credible evidence about
the whereabouts of a known fugitive?
Copy !req
1388. I think there'd be
a variety, actually.
Copy !req
1389. You have information. Why
aren't you coming forward?
Copy !req
1390. Well, you have information,
too, so what are you gonna do?
Copy !req
1391. I'm a journalist. I'm gonna
do what I always do.
Copy !req
1392. This information is gonna be on every
computer screen in the next 20 minutes.
Copy !req
1393. I'm gonna find out everything
you're hiding from me,
Copy !req
1394. and I'm gonna expose it in a
very big and very real way.
Copy !req
1395. You're about to do a lot of
damage to a lot of people.
Copy !req
1396. You have no idea how much.
Copy !req
1397. I think they have it coming.
Copy !req
1398. On that, you could
not be more wrong.
Copy !req
1399. Innocent people are about to get swept
up in this storm you're unleashing.
Copy !req
1400. - Trust me.
- Trust you?
Copy !req
1401. Tell me something, Mr. Osborne, are
you one of those innocent people?
Copy !req
1402. No, I am not.
Copy !req
1403. But my daughter is.
Copy !req
1404. How so?
Copy !req
1405. I got something I need to do,
but on my own terms.
Copy !req
1406. Upper Peninsula.
Copy !req
1407. Beck, it's Dad.
I'm trying you again.
Copy !req
1408. Um, sorry about the messages.
Copy !req
1409. Uh... Listen, if you...
Copy !req
1410. When you get a chance, I need
to talk to you to tell you, um...
Copy !req
1411. This... This Shepard guy...
Copy !req
1412. It's important, Beck.
Copy !req
1413. I love you, sweetie.
Call me back, please.
Copy !req
1414. I don't know why that's
so hard to figure out.
Copy !req
1415. What made you think that
I was ever going to be...
Copy !req
1416. For one thing, I didn't do it.
I wasn't there, Mimi.
Copy !req
1417. But you should have been, then
everything would have been different.
Copy !req
1418. Vince lost his cool completely.
You wouldn't have.
Copy !req
1419. - Nobody would have gotten hurt.
- Somebody didn't get hurt.
Copy !req
1420. Somebody got killed. A father,
a husband with a family.
Copy !req
1421. Do you think I didn't think about that
when so many fathers with families
Copy !req
1422. - were being killed and still are?
- You shouldn't have gone, Mimi.
Copy !req
1423. You should have said no.
Copy !req
1424. - We were done.
- No, you were done.
Copy !req
1425. I never was, but you
couldn't accept that.
Copy !req
1426. Mimi...
Copy !req
1427. You fooled yourself into
thinking I was someone else,
Copy !req
1428. and you're still doing it.
Copy !req
1429. I'm not the one fooling
myself. It was over.
Copy !req
1430. It wasn't over.
It's still not over.
Copy !req
1431. Every single thing we
said then is true today,
Copy !req
1432. and every single day
it's getting worse.
Copy !req
1433. - That's not the point.
- Oh, it's exactly the point, Nick.
Copy !req
1434. I won't give myself up
to a system I despise.
Copy !req
1435. I won't give up my freedom
and accept their version
Copy !req
1436. - of what life is supposed to be.
- Mimi, how free are you? Really?
Copy !req
1437. Well, I'm not in jail.
Copy !req
1438. I don't expect you to understand.
Copy !req
1439. - They have you, Nick.
- Oh, like hell.
Copy !req
1440. The system that protects the super-rich
and the super-super-super-rich
Copy !req
1441. and fucks over everyone
else and the planet to boot.
Copy !req
1442. Mimi. Mimi, would you just stop?
Copy !req
1443. Everyone who's given
up and given in,
Copy !req
1444. they're living at the expense of what
they once believed. It's so sad.
Copy !req
1445. You understood this.
I'm sorry you've forgotten.
Copy !req
1446. I wish I had forgotten, because my
problem is I can't stop remembering.
Copy !req
1447. So if you've built a wall so
high, more power to you.
Copy !req
1448. - You're stronger than I am.
- I will turn myself in...
Copy !req
1449. the day the politicians and corporations
turn themselves in for all they've done.
Copy !req
1450. That's the day I'll hand myself
in, Scout's fucking honor.
Copy !req
1451. Stop hiding behind your
fucking revolutionary rant.
Copy !req
1452. - Oh, don't turn it on me.
- You know what I see?
Copy !req
1453. I see the same person.
I see it, kid.
Copy !req
1454. I see it in your eyes.
Copy !req
1455. You can hide from everyone else in the world
and be somebody else, but not with me.
Copy !req
1456. What are your memories, Mi?
The ones you can't run away from?
Copy !req
1457. Hey!
Copy !req
1458. We had a responsibility
beyond the cause.
Copy !req
1459. We had a baby.
Copy !req
1460. And we were so consumed
by our principles
Copy !req
1461. that we abandoned our
most fundamental duty.
Copy !req
1462. We were doing our duty, Nick.
Copy !req
1463. We made a plan that if
anything ever went wrong...
Copy !req
1464. We never should have
carried out that plan.
Copy !req
1465. we knew exactly what we
had to do. We both agreed...
Copy !req
1466. We were wrong.
Copy !req
1467. We had no choice.
Copy !req
1468. So we should have known it.
We were wrong.
Copy !req
1469. We both accepted it, and
we've both had to live with it.
Copy !req
1470. It wasn't a dream.
Copy !req
1471. It was a possibility we
could have made a reality.
Copy !req
1472. - We could make them stop.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1473. Yeah, we could change things
Copy !req
1474. if we could make a difference.
Copy !req
1475. I still believe in
that possibility.
Copy !req
1476. Is that all you believe?
Copy !req
1477. Can you put me through
to Ben Shepard, please?
Copy !req
1478. Ah, shit.
Copy !req
1479. Rebecca?
Copy !req
1480. What did you say to my dad?
He sounds really upset.
Copy !req
1481. What do you mean?
Copy !req
1482. He left me a dozen voice
messages last night.
Copy !req
1483. He said it had to do with you.
Copy !req
1484. What is going on?
Copy !req
1485. You're gonna have to
talk to your father.
Copy !req
1486. You're up.
Copy !req
1487. Remember when these
trees were so small
Copy !req
1488. you could see clear
across the water?
Copy !req
1489. I saw her.
Copy !req
1490. What?
Copy !req
1491. I went into Ann Arbor on my way.
Copy !req
1492. I didn't want to. I just
couldn't help myself.
Copy !req
1493. I sat in my car like
some kind of stalker.
Copy !req
1494. Mim...
Copy !req
1495. She's really something, Nicky.
Copy !req
1496. Truly.
Copy !req
1497. We always intended
to tell you the truth.
Copy !req
1498. You always intended?
Copy !req
1499. At the time we felt...
Copy !req
1500. We hoped that nobody
needed to know.
Copy !req
1501. I never asked about
my birth parents.
Copy !req
1502. I really never needed to know.
Copy !req
1503. We know. There's no
way to make this easier.
Copy !req
1504. We redid your identity,
papered a legal adoption.
Copy !req
1505. None of that matters to me.
Copy !req
1506. Did you think I couldn't handle it?
Copy !req
1507. Sweetie, we gotta
talk through this.
Copy !req
1508. No one's perfect, Beck.
Copy !req
1509. I love you.
Copy !req
1510. I love you, too.
Copy !req
1511. I can't do what you
want me to do, Nicky.
Copy !req
1512. I know.
Copy !req
1513. I guess I was hoping you would
become the person who could.
Copy !req
1514. So it goes.
Copy !req
1515. Sir, the local canine
units are on the way.
Copy !req
1516. Roger that.
Copy !req
1517. Hello?
Copy !req
1518. I'm here alone.
Copy !req
1519. Hello?
Copy !req
1520. You? Oh, sh...
Copy !req
1521. You expect to see somebody else?
Copy !req
1522. - Is she here?
- Who are we talking about?
Copy !req
1523. "Who are we talking
about?" Mimi Lurie.
Copy !req
1524. - That's who you came to see, right?
- Huh?
Copy !req
1525. Mimi Lurie. That's who you
came to see, correct?
Copy !req
1526. - Why would I do that?
- She could testify you weren't at the bank.
Copy !req
1527. Almost sounds like a
news story, doesn't it?
Copy !req
1528. - Unfortunately, I need a source.
- Really? Must be a new policy.
Copy !req
1529. - Is she here, Nick?
- She never was.
Copy !req
1530. - You call them?
- No.
Copy !req
1531. Well, you got yourself a story, kid.
Congratulations. Hope you're satisfied.
Copy !req
1532. I don't want to see a guy go
to jail for the rest of his life
Copy !req
1533. for something he didn't do.
Copy !req
1534. Is that what passes for
idealism these days?
Copy !req
1535. Is Mimi going to surrender?
Copy !req
1536. - No.
- No? So, where are you going?
Copy !req
1537. Well, before she cannot surrender,
she has to first not get caught.
Copy !req
1538. I don't understand.
There was an easier way.
Copy !req
1539. There usually is.
You'll learn that lesson.
Copy !req
1540. You know, I met your daughter.
Copy !req
1541. Your older daughter.
Copy !req
1542. Then you really do have
yourself a story, don't you?
Copy !req
1543. I'm guessing you didn't just
stumble into this information.
Copy !req
1544. By my count, there are exactly four people
on the planet that knew about this.
Copy !req
1545. You get let in on
something like this, Ben,
Copy !req
1546. you get answers, but not
the ones you think.
Copy !req
1547. Secrets are dangerous things, Ben.
Copy !req
1548. We all think we want to know them,
but if you've kept one to yourself,
Copy !req
1549. you come to understand
that doing so means
Copy !req
1550. that you may learn something
about somebody else,
Copy !req
1551. but you also discover
something about yourself.
Copy !req
1552. I hope you're ready for that.
Copy !req
1553. At this point, I have
no more secrets.
Copy !req
1554. You're a smart guy.
Copy !req
1555. Hold on. I'm not gonna hurt you.
Copy !req
1556. You know exactly what motivates
me and has for the last 30 years.
Copy !req
1557. What you're gonna have to figure
out is what motivates you.
Copy !req
1558. - I hope you like the answer.
- Hold on. Nick!
Copy !req
1559. - Nick!
- When the FBI comes, they'll follow me.
Copy !req
1560. They'll never know she was here.
Copy !req
1561. There he is.
Copy !req
1562. What's that? That's it.
Copy !req
1563. Come on.
Copy !req
1564. All right, we'll take up. You
guys flank around from there. Go.
Copy !req
1565. There he is!
Copy !req
1566. Nicholas Sloan?
Copy !req
1567. You're under arrest for the
murder of Hugh Krosney.
Copy !req
1568. Can't say I'm happy to see you.
Copy !req
1569. after an armed robbery
at a jewelry store.
Copy !req
1570. Mimi Lurie, last remaining fugitive from
the 1980 Bank of Michigan robbery,
Copy !req
1571. surrendered herself to authorities
today near Drummond Island, Michigan,
Copy !req
1572. just across the water from Canada.
Copy !req
1573. She confessed to her
role in the robbery,
Copy !req
1574. which resulted in the
death of a guard.
Copy !req
1575. Charges have been dropped
against Nicholas Sloan,
Copy !req
1576. long thought to be a
co-conspirator in the robbery.
Copy !req
1577. No comment yet from Sloan,
who is expected to be released
Copy !req
1578. from custody as early as tomorrow.
Copy !req
1579. In other news today...
Copy !req
1580. Mr. Sloan, how long were you a member
of the Weather Underground, sir?
Copy !req
1581. Mr. Sloan!
Copy !req
1582. I have nothing to say.
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1583. Do you have any plans for
today, your first day free?
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1584. Have you talked to your
daughter yet, sir?
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1585. Clear a path, please.
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