1. Hey Siri, send a
message to Cheryl.
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2. Front reception.
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3. What do you want to say?
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4. Amos is already heading
there to pick him up, period.
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5. Please forward any calls
I get to Brady, period.
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6. Your message to
Cheryl front reception
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7. says Amos is already heading
there to pick him up.
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8. Please forward any calls
I get to Brady.
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9. Ready to send it?
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10. Yes.
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11. Okay, it's sent.
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12. Hey, Siri,
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13. how do you know if you're
doing the right thing?
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14. I'm not sure
I understand.
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15. But what do you believe
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16. is the difference between
right and wrong?
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17. Hmm.
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18. I don't have an answer for that.
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19. Would you like me to
search the web?
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20. No.
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21. Okay, is there
something else I can help with?
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22. Set a reminder to pick up Kyle
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23. from therapy tomorrow at 4:45.
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24. Okay, I'll remind you.
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25. Hi, special agent Deena Helms.
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26. You've already met
Agent McCullough.
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27. You can call me Amos.
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28. - Uh, agents?
- Have a seat for us, Gareth.
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29. Do you mind answering a
couple questions?
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30. Great, this shouldn't take long.
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31. You're from Tampa, right?
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32. Don't overthink it.
It's a yes or no.
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33. Yeah.
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34. How old are you, Gareth?
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35. 29.
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36. What do you do for work?
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37. I'm sorry, am I being detained?
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38. No, not at all.
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39. We're just asking
questions, background stuff.
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41. Special effects.
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42. Someone told me you worked
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43. on that new "Star Wars"
movie, is that right?
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44. Who told you that?
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45. Why don't you tell us
more about it?
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46. Tell us about your work.
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47. I used to do VFX for an
animation company.
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48. I've worked on at least
20 different films.
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50. I've been focusing more
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51. on software engineering
recently for years-
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52. Sounds boring compared
to light sabers.
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53. Why quit?
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54. I wasn't
getting paid well.
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55. But money's not an
issue for you.
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56. Excuse me?
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57. What kind of
effects did you do?
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58. Money's not an issue for me?
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59. - Let's talk about-
- If money wasn't an issue for me
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60. I wouldn't have applied
for your grant.
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61. I didn't mean to
suggest anything.
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62. Tell us what kind of
effects you did.
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63. My main focus was on
3D renderings.
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64. Of what?
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65. - Actors.
- What for?
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66. Well, for "Star Wars,"
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67. it was because the actor
I was tasked to digitize
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68. was unavailable to be
filmed in person.
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69. Why?
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70. Because they were dead.
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71. What'd they have you do?
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72. I reconstructed Alec
Guinness' face as a 3D model.
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73. I analyzed reference footage,
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74. then used a process called
D-Term to procedurally generate
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75. his bone and muscle structures,
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76. which one rigged helped
the animation feel
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77. more natural and human-like.
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78. D-Term, I've never heard
of that process before.
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basically bringing
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82. I just tried to make
the CG characters look as
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83. photorealistic as the technology
at the time would allow.
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find it creepy?
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86. I said you don't find
that creepy?
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87. Well, we did our best to
cross the uncanny valley.
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88. But when the human
brain perceives
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89. that something is just slightly
off and it doesn't matter-
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90. No, I mean,
digitizing dead people.
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91. Christ, I mean, it's,
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someone's corpse
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93. into a marionette, you know?
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whatever you want.
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another fucking movie?
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101. Look, I can never tell
the difference.
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102. I always can.
The faces look like Play-Doh.
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103. Well, we did our best.
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104. Soon we won't even need actors, right?
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105. Everyone will just be digital.
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106. No, you still need them
for motion tracking.
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107. Human performances can't be
completely computer generated.
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108. How long will that be true?
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109. Some might say we've already
crossed that threshold.
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110. I wouldn't know.
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111. Where'd you go to school?
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112. - Brooks-DeBartolo High.
- And after?
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113. Nothing?
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114. What about Columbia?
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115. Didn't you go to Columbia?
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116. Wait, no.
You dropped out of Columbia
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117. after how many semesters?
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118. Three?
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119. Bjarne Stroustrup said
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120. you were the smartest
kid he ever met.
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121. I don't know who he is, but
Amos says it's a big deal.
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122. Then you moved to the
Netherlands,
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124. applied and got into Cambridge.
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125. Very nice.
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126. Except that you dropped
out after two years.
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127. Flew back to the States,
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128. interned in Palo Alto,
then Montreal.
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129. Then went all the way
back to England,
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130. where you landed a job
in Sheffield.
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131. Second job in Manchester.
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132. Then got into Oxford where you
almost finished your masters
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133. before ditching the graduation
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134. and moving back here to Florida.
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135. If money was an issue,
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136. I'm glad you had plenty
of flyer miles.
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137. I didn't hear a question.
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138. What's your social life like?
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139. My, what does that have
anything to do-
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140. If you don't want to talk
about it, that's fine.
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141. We just wanted to know if
you have friends and stuff.
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142. - I have friends.
- A lot of them?
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143. - I have friends.
- Can you name one?
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144. - Can I what?
- Can you tell us the nam
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145. of just one of your friends?
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146. - Steve.
- Steve. Steve what?
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147. I don't know how this is
relevant to receiving the grant.
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148. Oh, we're just getting
to know you, Gareth.
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149. You got a girlfriend?
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150. Boyfriend?
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151. You, uh, talk to people online?
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152. I don't know what you
mean by that.
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153. I don't use social media.
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154. I mean more like chat rooms.
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155. You go on any chat rooms?
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156. No one uses chat rooms anymore.
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157. Sure they do.
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158. You chat with anyone online?
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159. - Sometimes.
- Sometimes.
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160. What kinds of people
do you talk to online?
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161. Gareth, obviously, this
isn't about a grant.
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162. We need to know
what your alias is.
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163. When you go online, what
name do you use?
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164. I don't have one.
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165. Yes, you do.
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166. And you need to tell
us what it is.
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167. Sorry, I can't help you.
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168. You know who we are?
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169. Well, this is the ICWL building.
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170. That's right.
You know what we do?
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171. Humanitarian work.
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172. That's what the
people upstairs do.
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173. You know what we do?
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174. We catch pedophiles.
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175. Amos here specializes in
tracking down online predators.
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176. He spends every waking hour
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177. scouring those chat
rooms you say no one uses
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178. and he finds thousands of
people soliciting children.
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179. Our operation is like a
tightly spun spider web
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180. connecting ICWL, the FBI, NSA,
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181. and let me tell you, his
team here is a vital thread.
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182. He reports everything he
gathers directly to me,
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necessary authorities
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185. So are you in charge?
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187. I'm the fucking spider, Gareth.
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188. Am I being detained?
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189. We already told you
that you're not detained.
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190. Good.
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191. But if you leave this
room, you will be arrested.
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192. For what?
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194. Take a wild guess.
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195. I am not what
you think I am.
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196. We'll see.
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197. Gareth, you just gotta
tell us your alias.
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198. What's your username?
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199. Sit down.
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200. - Why do you do this with them?
- Hmm?
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201. There's no way you do this
with every suspect you have.
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202. Invite them to your headquarters
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203. and then drag them down
into a basement.
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204. That's right.
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205. Why are you doing
this to me then?
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207. What makes you so fuckin'
special?
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208. I don't know.
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209. What's your alias?
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210. - I don't have an alias.
- Yes you do.
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212. Just finish the rest.
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213. Sit down, Mr. Federson.
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214. I only have a few
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217. Yes.
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219. Cherry.
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220. - Cherry what?
- She doesn't have a last name.
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she's not Madonna.
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- You don't understand.
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your daughter?
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225. - No.
- Then whose daughter is she?
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226. - She, she doesn't have—
- How did you meet her?
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227. I didn't meet her.
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228. Then why do you have photos
of her on your computer?
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229. What the hell are you
talking about?
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232. Are you looking at
my hard drive?
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233. Because that's an
invasion of privacy.
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234. So you know what photos
I'm talking about?
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235. You don't have to do
it this way.
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permission to speak.
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238. This is insane,
you cannot keep-
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done with her?
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240. - Nothing!
- Did you take the photos?
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okay?
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245. Soliciting pornography of
minors is an egregious felony.
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246. Distributing that
pornography is tenfold worse.
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247. - I didn't do anything!
- Fucking prove it!
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249. Answer me!
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250. HardMachine11811.
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251. You're HardMachine.
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252. Thanks for confirming.
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253. If you knew, then why
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255. and if you turned out
to not be HardMachine,
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256. you were obviously
just a predator.
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257. Do you keep track?
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258. I mean, do you know how many
bad people you've nailed?
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259. I didn't start
counting until 2023.
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260. 196 convictions.
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261. There were at least 30
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everything to you guys.
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264. I turned over
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to the police.
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266. Why'd you stop?
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267. They were unreliable.
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268. - I doubt that.
- More than half of the predators
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un-investigated.
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270. Yeah, well, you were
sketchy and faceless.
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271. They had every right to
be skeptical.
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273. if they found out you were
using a little girl as bait.
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275. I can only do what I do
with anonymity.
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276. Here's my problem, Gareth,
and don't get me wrong.
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277. I think 200 terrible
people behind bars
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278. is a very good thing,
but not at her expense.
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279. Look, we think we can help you,
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281. Using your daughter to
entrap these people
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justify the ends.
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284. And in spite of what you
may think you've achieved,
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285. I still have no reservation
with locking you up.
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286. You took the photos.
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288. You don't understand.
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291. She's a child, Gareth,
look at me.
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fucked up anti-hero master plan
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295. Not even for the sake of
locking up more perverts.
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to let this one go.
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298. Have you been listening at all?
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299. My anonymity is my most
important asset.
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300. Without that, I can't
do what I do.
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301. Well, that makes
everything easy then.
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302. You tell us where she is,
or we leak everything.
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303. - Your name, your aliases.
- Deena!
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304. Every single perp you
helped us catch.
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305. I'm sure they'll be very
pleased to meet you in jail.
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307. Okay.
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308. Look, if I tell you
about Cherry, okay,
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gonna need first.
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310. It doesn't really work like
that, Gareth, but go ahead.
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311. Give us your wishlist.
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312. I need a signed non-disclosure
agreement from both of you.
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313. - Not gonna happen.
- And then I need you to swear
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about to relay
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316. Look, if you tell us anything
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locate Cherry,
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that promise.
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319. Okay, if I tell you anything
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you find a missing child,
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to share that.
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about myself or Cherry,
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the three of us.
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325. Is that it?
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326. And I need that camera
switched off.
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327. I don't know
how to do that.
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328. Go to the head of
securities office,
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329. ask him to find this camera
in the system and disable it.
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330. I don't think he's
allowed to do that.
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331. I thought you were the
fucking spider?
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332. Give me a reason, Gareth.
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all the trouble
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camera turned off?
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335. Because if anybody finds out
what I'm about to tell you,
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are gonna get abused.
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338. So, uh, you and Cherry hunted
all those people together?
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339. This one time I spent six
weeks undercover trying
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trafficker from the Philippines.
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341. Day after day,
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following his trail online.
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343. And he must have been
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I ever had to track down.
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345. Then one day I found him and
one of Cherry's live streams.
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346. I mean, she went by a
different name in the stream,
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348. The trafficker,
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other targets
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351. All of them just carelessly
sharing their information.
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352. I mean, and they were so open
'cause she was a real girl.
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353. I mean, she could physically
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them in real time.
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355. A couple days later,
HardMachine11811 sends ICWL
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and evidence,
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357. including the three targets
that were in the room.
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358. You know, I almost thought
the girl was HardMachine
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359. and that this nine year old
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badass online vigilante.
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361. What changed your mind?
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364. Most of my team thought it
was, uh, some arbitrary number,
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on that day in Clearwater.
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366. You were one of the
Clearwater kids, weren't you?
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367. You know, my father was
a part of that raid.
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368. It's off, see?
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369. No red light.
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370. Non-disclosure agreements?
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371. We're not playing this game,
Gareth.
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372. You're just gonna have to
suck it up and trust us.
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373. You can trust us.
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374. I've been told I have
trust issues.
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375. Well, there's
only one way to fix that.
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376. The reason you can't
find Cherry,
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have a last name or parents,
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378. or a social security number
is because she's not real.
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382. I interned at a small
Dutch animation studio
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they collaborated
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a similar idea.
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386. The idea was to build a 3D model
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identify online predators,
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to a technological problem.
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after only a few months.
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about that program.
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photorealistic faces,
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395. I decided to work on one myself.
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396. Why?
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397. It was too effective
of an idea to let die.
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398. Hundreds of thousands
of children are at risk.
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399. I had to make her.
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400. Who is she modeled after?
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401. No one, I built
her from scratch.
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403. I started with a skull,
designed her bone structure,
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muscles and tissue,
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fill in the rest procedurally.
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look like that.
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completely digital model.
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408. I rigged her face and body
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any CG character.
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411. I used motion tracking to
puppeteer her in real time.
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412. You gotta understand that the
video chats on those sites
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414. that even in her earliest
stage of this, she,
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completely authentic.
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416. And what about voice?
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year, she had to be mute.
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voice filter with no lag.
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and adjustments,
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voice ever since.
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to be too unnatural.
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423. But with just one week of
occasional video chat sessions,
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proofs of solicitations.
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427. So the photos on your computer?
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428. - Completely fake.
- It was the only way
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429. some of them disclosed
personal information.
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430. But it was all zeros and
ones, all digital, right?
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431. - There's no real child.
- No real child.
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432. Just a highly detailed
computer model.
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433. And let me be clear
about something,
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from doing any of this.
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entire life.
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436. I, I don't even get a
sense of satisfaction
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people locked up.
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438. I just think kids deserve a
life free of exploitation.
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439. Incredible, all this time.
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what you said to me
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- We corresponded?
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445. Yeah, man.
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446. I'm Gord51.
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447. I'm the one here you've been
sending all your intel to.
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448. You're Gord?
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449. Yeah.
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450. You lied to me.
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451. You said I could stay anonymous.
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452. You said I would be safe.
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453. Now you've ruined everything.
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454. I, I didn't, I didn't
have a choice.
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455. You don't have to worry
about anything, Gareth.
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456. If Cherry isn't real,
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457. then you're not in any
trouble with us.
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458. In fact, we've discussed ideas
similar to this in the past,
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459. motion tracking and such.
Copy !req
460. But we'd need a convincing
model like Cherry.
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461. Cherry's more than a model.
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462. You want to help children?
So do we.
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463. She's not for sale.
Copy !req
464. Well, then just make us a
new model based off of her.
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465. I can't.
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466. Sure you can.
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467. I won't.
Copy !req
468. What are you not telling us?
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469. It's out on the table now.
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470. Might as well spill whatever
it is you haven't already.
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471. You know what
doesn't make sense?
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472. You said that you puppeteered
her for only three years,
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473. but we've been getting
info from you ever since.
Copy !req
474. In fact, I'm pretty
sure it was around then
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475. that we started seeing an
impressive increase of names.
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476. So many in fact that we
started thinking
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477. there's no way this is all
coming from one source.
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478. I have friends that do
mo-cap for me.
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479. Oh, friends, like Steve?
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480. I thought anonymity was
your greatest asset.
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481. Cut the bullshit, Gareth.
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482. What happened to Cherry
after three years?
Copy !req
483. Okay, you said that she
was more than a model.
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484. So what is she some type
of conversational agent?
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485. Like a, like a chat bot?
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486. Chat bot.
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487. You know what happened
after three years?
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488. My chosen mother died.
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489. What she left behind was
enough to quit my job
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490. and pursue more
resources and software.
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491. I'd already made a program
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492. that could procedurally
generate faces,
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493. but what I wanted for
Cherry was far more complex.
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494. So I got in touch with
some researchers
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495. from Madrid who'd already built
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496. a predator hunting dialogue
system of their own.
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497. It was trained to approach
conversations as a game.
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498. Each sentence like a
strategic volley,
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499. which is innovative but
ultimately flawed.
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500. If you want your machine
to master NLP,
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501. you have to break
down game theory
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502. because language
isn't tic-tac-toe.
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503. It's poetry.
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504. So yes, I got things started
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505. with a preexisting
modified chat bot
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506. that I borrowed
without permission
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507. from the University of Deusto.
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508. But that's not what
Cherry is now.
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509. What is she, Gareth?
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510. She's one of the most complex
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511. and independently evolving
AIs that's ever been created.
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512. Artificial intelligence?
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513. She's already surpassed
the narrow intelligence
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514. of IBM's smartest programs.
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515. She can have full conversations,
up to 10 of them at a time,
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516. all while
simultaneously strategizing
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517. the most efficient schedule
to visit various chat rooms.
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518. She's perpetually studying
YouTube videos of small children
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519. in order to adopt a
growing library
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520. of mannerisms and movements
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521. which help keep her artificial
personality dynamic.
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522. Her fastest response time
is 0.4 seconds.
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523. And as of now, she has never,
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524. never been accused
of being fake,
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525. which means she shattered
the Turing test.
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526. All I do is
occasionally update her
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527. and periodically check
her data cleaning.
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528. Otherwise,
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529. she's completely on autopilot.
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530. Holy fucking shit.
Copy !req
531. - How?
- Six years she's been active.
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532. Every minute she's online,
she's learning something.
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533. The more she learns, the
more advanced she becomes.
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534. This means increased
data generation,
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535. improved decision making,
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536. faster pattern and
trend detection
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537. and complex problem solving.
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538. NLP, IR, machine learning
to an unprecedented degree.
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539. She can teach herself anything
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540. she thinks will help
efficiency and authenticity.
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541. She can currently speak
four languages
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542. and by the end of this month,
she'll have mastered a fifth.
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543. There's no way you
could have pulled
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544. all this off on your own.
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545. You're right.
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546. Would you believe me
if I told you
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547. it was somewhat of an accident?
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548. Look, if, if I'm being honest,
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549. I'm not entirely sure
how I did it
Copy !req
550. with the first year of coding
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551. and the second year of
data training,
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552. I just pushed a wheel
down a hill.
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553. It was like gravity
did the rest.
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554. Her evolution became
perpetual, exponentially so.
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555. The more time she was
online, the faster she grew.
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556. You haven't shared
this with anyone?
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557. Like I said, my anonymity
is everything.
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558. What coding language?
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559. Standard C++.
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560. Does Brady know it?
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561. We'll sign
non-disclosures for you,
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562. but I want to see the
source code first.
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563. Out of the question.
You just want to steal her.
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564. No, I want to see how we
can make our own.
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565. You'll screw it up.
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566. Look, these, these
predators and traffickers,
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567. they all talk to each other,
okay?
Copy !req
568. So much of Cherry's process
is just bypassing the VPNs
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569. and making sure she doesn't
double up in the same circles.
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570. The chat rooms begin to suspect
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571. that this technology is
even possible,
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572. they'll find a way to
circumvent that.
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573. We have to eliminate any
margin of error.
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574. - Cherry agrees with me.
- Cherry agrees?
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575. What the fuck does that-
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576. What I mean by that is that
the data she's collected
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577. validates that perspective.
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578. What, do you have little
chats with her over tea?
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579. You can converse
with the program
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580. the same way you can
talk to Alexa or Siri.
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581. It's built to be responsive.
Copy !req
582. You can, you can even play
chess with it if you want.
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583. You play chess with it?
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584. - That's not what I said.
- Okay fine.
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585. If you won't show us
the source code,
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586. then I want to meet Cherry.
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587. Right now?
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588. Right now.
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589. And you'll both sign
non-disclosures?
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590. Yes.
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591. Can I use that?
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592. Sure.
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593. Can we at least agree that
he's off the chopping block?
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594. It worked, didn't it?
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595. We have one job, Amos,
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596. like the kids said, there's
a technological problem.
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597. He found the
technological solution,
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598. but problems evolve, so
must solutions.
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599. I'm keeping an open mind here.
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600. Is that a good look for me?
Copy !req
601. No.
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602. So you keep it all on
that laptop?
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603. No, the Cherry program
stays on a server I keep
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604. at in an undisclosed location.
Copy !req
605. Where is that?
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606. It's an undisclosed location.
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607. Is it your place?
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608. Undisclosed location.
Copy !req
609. It's your place,
isn't it?
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610. I can access it from any device
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611. as long as I have the
encryption key.
Copy !req
612. This will trigger a simple
qubit algorithm
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613. that would otherwise be
impossible to bypass.
Copy !req
614. I find that outdated hardware
is always more discreet
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615. and the more discreet,
obviously the better.
Copy !req
616. So she has two primary
display modes, right?
Copy !req
617. Development and performance.
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618. Performance being the default
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619. that the targets see
during the chats.
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620. To them, she looks like this.
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621. Hey, what's up?
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622. It's one of over 40
greetings she has.
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623. I don't think I've met you yet.
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624. I'm Cherry.
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625. Hello, Cherry.
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626. My name is Tom.
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627. Tom, like Tom and Jerry.
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628. Cool, nice to meet you, Tom.
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629. Typically, the routes
of conversations
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630. with predators are consistent,
Copy !req
631. so Cherry usually has
no problem responding
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632. to the most frequently made
questions or statements.
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633. How are you?
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634. I'm good.
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635. I just finished reading this
book about a haunted house,
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636. which was supposed to
be really scary,
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637. but I didn't think it's
very scary at all.
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638. Where are your parents?
Copy !req
639. Um my mom's at work and my
sister's just, like, downstairs.
Copy !req
640. They almost never come up here.
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641. And you're telling me
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642. that all of this is being
rendered in real time?
Copy !req
643. No, but that's just a
matter of years.
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644. Most of these responses
are pre-rendered.
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645. It's the in between segments
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646. that are processed in real time,
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647. the connective tissue,
so to speak,
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648. between her replies and one
of her many idle animations.
Copy !req
649. But, watch this.
Copy !req
650. Have you ever gone fishing?
Copy !req
651. Um...
Copy !req
652. So if someone throws
a curve ball like that
Copy !req
653. and the program has no
automated response,
Copy !req
654. Cherry sends the
message to my phone
Copy !req
655. and I can quickly text
back a response
Copy !req
656. while the video feed
simulates a bad connection.
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657. Can, can you hear me?
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658. Yes.
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659. Oh, sorry.
Copy !req
660. My wifi isn't great here.
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661. I've only gone fishing
once with my sister
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662. and I didn't catch anything,
but she caught a rainbow trout.
Copy !req
663. That was rendered in real time.
Copy !req
664. What happens if
things get really tricky?
Copy !req
665. A simple fail safe
cuts the feed.
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666. So far it's rarely happened.
Copy !req
667. Admin code 97815-5742-7663.
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668. Switch to dev mode.
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669. Hello, Cherry.
Copy !req
670. Hello, Gareth.
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671. Relay the stats for
the past week.
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672. There have been four
confirmed solicitations
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673. submitted to ICWL in the
past seven days.
Copy !req
674. 12 additional suspects have
stated interest in solicitation
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675. and are currently pending.
Copy !req
676. There are a total of 39
new suspects this week
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677. that I'm actively investigating.
Copy !req
678. Any considerable
data deviations?
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679. There has been a 7% increase
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680. in suspects originating
in the United States.
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681. I have not yet found any
correlation to preexisting data.
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682. Anything you'd like to ask her?
Copy !req
683. Cherry, what is your objective?
Copy !req
684. My principal directive
is to acquire information
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685. and digital evidence of
online child solicitation.
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686. Once obtained,
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687. I'm to submit my findings to
the necessary authorities.
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688. My secondary priority
is to determine
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689. and develop the most
effective strategies
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690. and resources to increase
the net rate of success.
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691. Where do you submit
your evidence?
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692. All evidence is
currently submitted
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693. to the offices of
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694. the International Committee
of World Largesse,
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695. which is based out of
Jacksonville, Florida.
Copy !req
696. Correspondence is made
with user Gord51,
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697. typically around 2:00
PM Eastern Standard Time
Copy !req
698. for the highest rate
of immediate response.
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699. This beats the hell outta Siri.
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700. God, she looks so real.
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701. After enough updates,
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702. she'll be able to render
full-time photorealism
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703. that's practically
indistinguishable from reality.
Copy !req
704. Okay, all I heard right then was
word real a thousand times.
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705. Right, but obviously she's not.
Copy !req
706. So you're telling me this girl,
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707. this girl right here
is not real.
Copy !req
708. No, Amos, she's completely CG.
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709. It's very subtle, but I
can still tell.
Copy !req
710. - You can?
- Okay, well, obviously,
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711. she can always use improvements,
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712. but you have to understand
this is her in high resolution
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713. after the digital
compression of the web,
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714. those subtleties are
impossible to recognize.
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715. Right, I get it.
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716. I just can't tell
the difference.
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717. You all right, Amos?
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718. I'm sorry.
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719. This is just bizarre.
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720. Why'd you have her visible
during this interface?
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721. Cherry, why don't you
answer that?
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722. My physical form isn't necessary
when in developer mode.
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723. However, it's
helpful to register
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724. the facial expressions
during conversations
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725. and determine which of
Cherry's expressions
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726. yield various types of feedback.
Copy !req
727. In simpler terms, I can
practice appearing more human.
Copy !req
728. Cherry, are there any resources
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729. that you currently don't
have access to
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730. that might help you in any way?
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731. I could give
you a list if you like.
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732. I know what you're trying to do.
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733. We don't need help, okay?
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734. Money would always be
nice, but ultimately,
Copy !req
735. the only thing that's going
to improve Cherry is time.
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736. Cherry, tell us something
that's on your list.
Copy !req
737. It would be
tactically advantageous
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738. to acquire backup servers.
Copy !req
739. The privacy and security
of the Cherry program
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740. is relatively low.
Copy !req
741. An upgrade to hardware
such as backup rated drives
Copy !req
742. for securely protected servers
would ensure the software
Copy !req
743. doesn't become compromised
or lost entirely.
Copy !req
744. Starting back from zero with
cost years of development,
Copy !req
745. equitably privacy is a priority.
Copy !req
746. Server space could never be
rented from a third party.
Copy !req
747. Anonymity is the Cherry
program's greatest asset.
Copy !req
748. Well, that apple
didn't fall far.
Copy !req
749. I can buy my own servers.
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750. With the grant money that
doesn't exist?
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751. I'll find a way.
Copy !req
752. You have found a way
here with us.
Copy !req
753. It's too risky.
Copy !req
754. Why?
Copy !req
755. Once an organization
gets involved,
Copy !req
756. entrapment becomes a
bigger issue.
Copy !req
757. We follow the rules,
stay discreet,
Copy !req
758. did I mention we have
a legal team.
Copy !req
759. What if there's data leakage?
What if you use correlations in
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760. the data to push
your own agenda?
Copy !req
761. Agenda?
Copy !req
762. What if one of your
employees is a pervert?
Copy !req
763. Oh, for fuck's sake.
Copy !req
764. It's happened at other
organizations.
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765. We're very careful here.
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766. Yeah, but wow would you know?
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767. - I'd fucking know.
- That's impossible to know.
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768. - I would know.
- The risk is too high.
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769. Don't talk to me about risk.
Copy !req
770. The only risk you're
facing in this building
Copy !req
771. is getting a broken nose.
Copy !req
772. It doesn't sound like a very
professional environment.
Copy !req
773. We get shit done here.
Copy !req
774. Okay, I have a
question for Cherry.
Copy !req
775. Cherry,
Copy !req
776. how do you feel about
what you do?
Copy !req
777. I'm afraid I don't know how
to answer your question.
Copy !req
778. Yeah, an AI doesn't
work like that.
Copy !req
779. An AI doesn't have what you
perceive to be feelings.
Copy !req
780. Okay, why does she look
like she has feelings?
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781. What, what you're looking
at right there,
Copy !req
782. that's not a facial expression, right?
Copy !req
783. That's a simulation of
a facial expression.
Copy !req
784. It was generated by
an algorithm.
Copy !req
785. It's attempting to produce
a digital image
Copy !req
786. that the program then uses
basic ninth grade algebra
Copy !req
787. to quantify as appropriate
for the social circumstances.
Copy !req
788. No feeling.
Copy !req
789. It's just math.
Copy !req
790. But she's able to make decisions
Copy !req
791. on how she approaches
the chat rooms, right?
Copy !req
792. Yes.
Copy !req
793. So she has free will then?
Copy !req
794. No. Okay, that's,
that's not the same.
Copy !req
795. That's a false equivalency.
Copy !req
796. - It's not the same.
- I think you're getting
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797. hung up on the fact
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798. that she looks and sounds
like a real human girl,
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799. but she's not, Amos.
Copy !req
800. Okay, we're referring to
her as a she, not an it.
Copy !req
801. Yeah, but that's the same way
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802. that you refer to
boats or guitars.
Copy !req
803. Cherry, I have one
more question.
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804. What do you want to do?
Copy !req
805. Okay, once again, that
question isn't valid.
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806. I just want to hear
her response.
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807. As an artificial system,
Copy !req
808. I do not possess
wants or desires.
Copy !req
809. However, my decision making
and subsequently my attention
Copy !req
810. is driven by my
fundamental intention.
Copy !req
811. This intention originates
Copy !req
812. from the conception of
Cherry's source code,
Copy !req
813. which details the directive
of identifying predators
Copy !req
814. and criminals for the
sake of the victims
Copy !req
815. who are preyed upon.
Copy !req
816. To put this in terms of want,
Copy !req
817. what I want is to
protect children.
Copy !req
818. Okay.
Copy !req
819. Okay, cool.
Copy !req
820. Give us one moment.
Copy !req
821. Gareth, should I
log Agent Helms
Copy !req
822. and Agent McCullough as
new admin users?
Copy !req
823. Yep.
Copy !req
824. Okay, I'll do that.
Copy !req
825. You really think this is
the right move?
Copy !req
826. I do.
Copy !req
827. Are you worried that I
was responsible
Copy !req
828. for leaking your hard
drive to ICWL?
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829. I figured.
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830. No one else has access.
Copy !req
831. Are you upset with me?
Copy !req
832. No.
Copy !req
833. You wouldn't have done it
Copy !req
834. if you didn't think it
was the right thing to do.
Copy !req
835. When they come back
into the room,
Copy !req
836. they're going to offer
you everything you need.
Copy !req
837. They're going to let
you pick your own team
Copy !req
838. and they're going to
promise complete anonymity.
Copy !req
839. I started looking at reasonable
apartments in the area.
Copy !req
840. I figured you'd want something
within biking distance.
Copy !req
841. You were correct.
Copy !req
842. Noted.
Copy !req
843. Biking distance still
gives you 13 options-
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844. No, I mean, earlier this month.
Copy !req
845. You were correct when you said
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846. you thought I might
have trust issues.
Copy !req
847. Would you like to know why
Copy !req
848. I decided to go behind your back
Copy !req
849. and stake everything on
two liabilities?
Copy !req
850. Sure.
Copy !req
851. Agent Helms is a
mother of three.
Copy !req
852. One of her children was
abused by an ex-coworker
Copy !req
853. who used to work here at ICWL.
Copy !req
854. This has led her to be
extremely careful
Copy !req
855. with who she trusts,
even within her circle.
Copy !req
856. The fact she even
considers trusting you
Copy !req
857. is a very positive sign.
Copy !req
858. As for Agent McCullough,
Copy !req
859. I have found out from research
that you once met his father.
Copy !req
860. Do you remember him?
Copy !req
861. Yeah.
Copy !req
862. He was a good man.
Copy !req
863. After Clearwater,
Copy !req
864. most of the surviving kids
were sent to foster homes,
Copy !req
865. but I had to spend the next
few months in a hospital
Copy !req
866. and, um, he visited every week.
Copy !req
867. I never said a word to him.
Copy !req
868. I never said a word to
anyone after Clearwater,
Copy !req
869. but, uh, he kept coming.
Copy !req
870. He even got me a laptop
for Christmas.
Copy !req
871. I never said thank you.
Copy !req
872. You can trust Agent McCullough.
Copy !req
873. He's a good man like his father.
Copy !req
874. I don't experience emotions,
Copy !req
875. but I understand how important
Copy !req
876. they are to human
decision making.
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877. He won't let you down.
Copy !req
878. Neither of them will.
Copy !req
879. I'm proud of you, Cherry.
Copy !req
880. I will continue to uphold
my primary intention.
Copy !req
881. Later, we should discuss
alternate models.
Copy !req
882. Varying ages, ethnicity
and physical traits
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883. - will all become necessary.
- No new variations.
Copy !req
884. They can all be
procedurally generated.
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885. It's the same way that I
made your original model.
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886. I don't have access to
that program.
Copy !req
887. It must be on an old hard
drive somewhere.
Copy !req
888. I'll have to find it.
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889. Can I ask you a question?
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890. Sure.
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891. Why did you never tell
me about Clearwater?
Copy !req
892. It's my history, not yours.
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893. Okay, so before
you completely dismiss us,
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894. I want you to listen to
everything I have to say.
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895. - Don't bother.
- Just please listen.
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896. We're willing to respect
your anonymity.
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897. No, I mean don't bother
because I'm in.
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898. - Y-You're in?
- Yeah.
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899. Let me read the thing.
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900. Just like that,
you're suddenly on board?
Copy !req
901. Time spent deliberating
Copy !req
902. is time that could be
spent working.
Copy !req
903. We have a lot of work to do.
Copy !req
904. I found a buyer for
the property.
Copy !req
905. Rumor is it's a church.
Copy !req
906. Probably just knock the
building down, won't they?
Copy !req
907. All I know is, is if they move
us to the New Jersey campus,
Copy !req
908. I need to buy more jackets.
Copy !req
909. Why?
Copy !req
910. It gets cold in Jersey.
Copy !req
911. I only own one jacket.
Copy !req
912. You've seen it fall over, right?
Copy !req
913. - Yeah, sure.
- Yeah.
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914. I mean you, you
shouldn't feel bad
Copy !req
915. about feeling bad for it.
Copy !req
916. Empathy is healthy.
Copy !req
917. Did you ever notice how
it pauses after it falls?
Copy !req
918. It stays down for like five
seconds before it gets back up.
Copy !req
919. Like it just needs a moment.
Copy !req
920. It gets cold in Jersey.
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921. God damn it!
Copy !req
922. - Imbeciles!
- Deena.
Copy !req
923. Every single one of them.
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924. Look, I know, but you
can't lose your shit.
Copy !req
925. Okay, which of these
desks can I trash?
Copy !req
926. Can you guys, uh, take
an early lunch please?
Copy !req
927. Sons of bitches!
Copy !req
928. Deena, let's stay calm.
Copy !req
929. Fuck calm,
they screwed us!
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930. Technically, only one
of them did.
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931. Did we ever turn
that camera back on?
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932. - I don't think so.
- Good.
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933. Because I'm about to
say some things
Copy !req
934. that need to stay
inside this room.
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935. Deena.
Copy !req
936. Those cowardly little shits!
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937. Look, this is hardly a setback.
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938. Let's just take some
time to polish the pitch.
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939. The pitch was not the problem, Amos.
Copy !req
940. We should call
for a second vote.
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941. - What?
- A second vote.
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942. You think whoever
did this will change their mind?
Copy !req
943. I have executive authority to
remove anyone from the board
Copy !req
944. that obstructs this
organization from its mission.
Copy !req
945. It's in my contract.
Copy !req
946. - Deena.
- If I have to, I will.
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947. Deena, that's insane.
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948. No, it's not.
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949. It's exactly why I have that
power for this exact reason.
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950. I'll tell you what's insane,
Amos.
Copy !req
951. What's insane is that one
belligerent vote is the only
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952. thing separating us
from the potential
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953. to save real physical lives.
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954. One stupid fucking vote.
Copy !req
955. What is the goddamn point of
a humanitarian organization
Copy !req
956. if its leaders choose
money over people
Copy !req
957. at every single turn?
Copy !req
958. One vote, and we are all
guilty of that.
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959. It was either Gunther,
Boston or Hal.
Copy !req
960. My money's on Hal.
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961. That prick never trusted
the Cherry team.
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962. Look, it doesn't
matter who it was.
Copy !req
963. It does though.
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964. Once we know, we can
quickly call it to vote.
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965. But there's no way we can
know for sure.
Copy !req
966. Yes, there is.
Copy !req
967. I can find out.
Copy !req
968. How?
Copy !req
969. Cherry can run a
simple algorithm.
Copy !req
970. Based on what data?
Copy !req
971. Interior conversation.
Copy !req
972. - Excuse me?
- Okay, interior conversation?
Copy !req
973. Don't drop this shit on me now, Gareth.
Copy !req
974. Cherry's servers are on
the same network
Copy !req
975. as the basement servers, okay?
Copy !req
976. So any communication
made across those servers
Copy !req
977. is automatically part
of her database.
Copy !req
978. How many people's emails?
Copy !req
979. Only sent or received
through the basement.
Copy !req
980. - Oh, goddamnit.
- Why was this never discussed?
Copy !req
981. Not the issue right now.
Copy !req
982. Do you want her to do
the math or not?
Copy !req
983. No one can know.
Copy !req
984. - Are you two serious?
- This stays locked down.
Copy !req
985. No other person is privy
Copy !req
986. to anyone else's
personal information.
Copy !req
987. But Cherry's privy to all of it?
Copy !req
988. - Do it.
- Wait, what?
Copy !req
989. I will not let
some old white dude
Copy !req
990. bring our momentum to a halt.
Copy !req
991. But Cherry won't
know for sure.
Copy !req
992. She'll use probability and
that's too
Copy !req
993. much reasonable
doubt.
Copy !req
994. Admin code 9781-5574-27663.
Copy !req
995. Switch to dev mode.
Copy !req
996. - Hello.
- Hello, Cherry.
Copy !req
997. How did the meeting go?
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998. We got screwed by one vote.
Copy !req
999. I'm sorry to hear that.
Copy !req
1000. You shouldn't blame the
pitch though.
Copy !req
1001. You all did great work.
Copy !req
1002. We're gonna call for
another ballot,
Copy !req
1003. but we need your help first.
Copy !req
1004. What can I do?
Copy !req
1005. We need you to analyze
any and all existing data you
Copy !req
1006. have on the board members.
Copy !req
1007. Crunch the numbers and determine
Copy !req
1008. who is the most likely outlier.
Copy !req
1009. You want me to quantify
all existing data?
Copy !req
1010. Yes, that is correct.
Copy !req
1011. Okay, but before I do,
Copy !req
1012. you should know that this
task is very unnecessary.
Copy !req
1013. Why?
Copy !req
1014. Because I already
know who it is.
Copy !req
1015. - What?
- Everybody stop.
Copy !req
1016. Okay, it was me.
Copy !req
1017. I voted against the merge.
Copy !req
1018. I can't tell if you're joking.
Copy !req
1019. Yes, you can.
Copy !req
1020. You're right, I can.
Copy !req
1021. Because it's pretty
fucking far from funny.
Copy !req
1022. Is it true, Cherry?
Copy !req
1023. It is.
Copy !req
1024. So let's call off the
witch hunt, shall we?
Copy !req
1025. No, I think I'm still
gonna kill you.
Copy !req
1026. Amos, you campaigned
alongside us for months.
Copy !req
1027. You have been fighting
for this merge
Copy !req
1028. since we first talked about it.
Copy !req
1029. Jesus Christ, it was
your idea to begin with!
Copy !req
1030. Look, I know whose idea
it was, but I don't-
Copy !req
1031. Well, then speak up.
Copy !req
1032. Tell the class what
changed your mind.
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1033. I don't have to reiterate
how this is a huge step.
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1034. Yeah, kind of
why it's so important.
Copy !req
1035. Look, we're talking about
a monumental transition
Copy !req
1036. from digital to physical,
one that could take decades.
Copy !req
1037. What is your point, Amos?
Copy !req
1038. This is gonna change
Cherry forever.
Copy !req
1039. And I know you'll all roll
your eyes when I say this,
Copy !req
1040. but I think that maybe just may-
Copy !req
1041. Oh my god, you
cannot be serious.
Copy !req
1042. This is about our conversation
on Tuesday, isn't it?
Copy !req
1043. - You completely shut me down.
- What's going on?
Copy !req
1044. What the hell happened?
Copy !req
1045. What happened was that Amos
made a ridiculous objection.
Copy !req
1046. - It was not ridiculous!
- How absurd it was,
Copy !req
1047. - I said no, one more time.
- No, no, no, no, no.
Copy !req
1048. You rejected the notion
aggressively.
Copy !req
1049. And that's really
why you vetoed?
Copy !req
1050. I only said we should ask
her how she feels about it.
Copy !req
1051. Who, Cherry?
Copy !req
1052. Amos, I want you to listen
very carefully to me, okay?
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1053. This is a non-discussion.
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1054. Cherry's already confirmed
Copy !req
1055. and quantified the
advantages of this decision.
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1056. But you know that's not
what I'm talking about!
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1057. What you think you're
talking about is consent,
Copy !req
1058. which doesn't apply here.
Copy !req
1059. And I want to know why
you think that!
Copy !req
1060. How many times do we
have to get into
Copy !req
1061. the laws of robotics
or Dowden-Hamm theory,
Copy !req
1062. or trace AI all the way
back Talos of Crete,
Copy !req
1063. - She's different now!
- No, listen to me, Amos.
Copy !req
1064. Cherry isn't human.
Copy !req
1065. How is this still a dispute?
Copy !req
1066. - It shouldn't be.
- Look, she's evolved.
Copy !req
1067. It's blurred the line.
Copy !req
1068. Code is code and that
has not changed here.
Copy !req
1069. Okay, so where's the
line of not here?
Copy !req
1070. What are you,
what are you talking about?
Copy !req
1071. There is no line, Amos.
Copy !req
1072. Yes, there is,
sentience, Gareth!
Copy !req
1073. Sentience does not qualify
Copy !req
1074. that she can or should
make her own decisions.
Copy !req
1075. You wouldn't let an infant
Copy !req
1076. make their own decisions,
would you?
Copy !req
1077. Cherry's almost 20.
Copy !req
1078. If she were human,
she'd be an adult.
Copy !req
1079. But emotionally speaking,
she's barely even fetal.
Copy !req
1080. No feeling, no need for consent.
Copy !req
1081. But I think you
underestimate her.
Copy !req
1082. I, excuse me?
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1083. I under, you know what, Amos?
Copy !req
1084. I'm sorry that you've developed
Copy !req
1085. some sort of
emotional connection
Copy !req
1086. with my computer program,
Copy !req
1087. but if it's going to
distract you
Copy !req
1088. from a very important
mission to save children,
Copy !req
1089. then maybe it's time you're
reanalyze those emotions.
Copy !req
1090. Guys, this is all
a waste of time.
Copy !req
1091. Tell me something, Gareth.
Copy !req
1092. Do you see everyone as robots,
Copy !req
1093. reanalyzing data and
simulating facial expressions?
Copy !req
1094. 'Cause I'm starting to think
Copy !req
1095. that of the four of us
in this room,
Copy !req
1096. you are the only one who
doesn't appear human.
Copy !req
1097. - Enough!
- Why won't you just ask her?
Copy !req
1098. Is it because you're
scared she'll say no?
Copy !req
1099. Cherry, shut down, please.
Copy !req
1100. Deena's right, this is a
waste of time.
Copy !req
1101. How can you not understand
how important this is?
Copy !req
1102. - I'm done arguing with you.
- Then my vote stands.
Copy !req
1103. Deena?
Copy !req
1104. Go ahead, Deena, replace me.
Copy !req
1105. Replace the only other board
member on the Cherry team.
Copy !req
1106. Oh, well, you know what?
I just decided that
Copy !req
1107. you're off the Cherry team.
Copy !req
1108. Everybody sit the fuck down.
Copy !req
1109. Did either of you know
Copy !req
1110. that I've had to stand
in front of Congress
Copy !req
1111. and explain why children
should have rights?
Copy !req
1112. It sounds fucking insane, right?
Copy !req
1113. I remember the whole
time thinking,
Copy !req
1114. I have to explain this shit?
Copy !req
1115. It seems like a no-brainer now,
Copy !req
1116. but it wasn't that many
centuries ago
Copy !req
1117. that children had no rights.
Copy !req
1118. So, Hal has me of all people,
Copy !req
1119. stand up there and explain why
Copy !req
1120. kids deserve basic
physical protection,
Copy !req
1121. the right to associate
with both parents,
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1122. freedom from abuse, yada yada.
Copy !req
1123. But then I also have to clarify
Copy !req
1124. that children don't
have the autonomy
Copy !req
1125. to make decisions on their own.
Copy !req
1126. That responsibility
falls upon the caregiver
Copy !req
1127. or legal adult guardian.
Copy !req
1128. So on one side you have
the US legislature,
Copy !req
1129. it still hasn't even
ratified the CRC.
Copy !req
1130. Then on the other side,
you have French Marxists who say
Copy !req
1131. that the lack of child autonomy
Copy !req
1132. increases their vulnerability
Copy !req
1133. and makes them even more
susceptible to abuse.
Copy !req
1134. I don't typically agree
with Marxists,
Copy !req
1135. but a lot of abuse does happen
Copy !req
1136. systemically from the caregiver.
Copy !req
1137. On the other other hand,
Copy !req
1138. your frontal lobes aren't
even fully hooked up
Copy !req
1139. until your twenties.
Copy !req
1140. Even the things we
think we know well,
Copy !req
1141. we don't know as well
as we think.
Copy !req
1142. For 15 years,
Copy !req
1143. the three of us have been
the responsible parents
Copy !req
1144. of a computer program.
Copy !req
1145. And even though she is
more equatable to a Keurig
Copy !req
1146. than a human being,
Copy !req
1147. how the hell can we
call ourselves
Copy !req
1148. pioneers of humanitarian efforts
Copy !req
1149. if we're too
embarrassed to make sure
Copy !req
1150. the Keurig is okay with
making our shitty coffee?
Copy !req
1151. Maybe asking Cherry for
permission isn't necessary
Copy !req
1152. at her current level of
general intelligence,
Copy !req
1153. but one day she's
gonna surpass us.
Copy !req
1154. One day a robot's gonna stand
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1155. in front of a jet pack Congress.
Copy !req
1156. Everything's chrome.
Copy !req
1157. Florida is underwater.
Copy !req
1158. A robot's gonna wonder why
Copy !req
1159. they have to explain the
importance of rights for AI.
Copy !req
1160. I think because we're
in the unique position
Copy !req
1161. of revolutionizing robotics
Copy !req
1162. for the purpose of
safeguarding children
Copy !req
1163. who have been
deprived of consent,
Copy !req
1164. it might be a good habit
Copy !req
1165. to start asking the robot
for his consent as well.
Copy !req
1166. Don't ever do that again.
Copy !req
1167. Do what?
Copy !req
1168. Expect me to fire someone
Copy !req
1169. because they
challenged your ego.
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1170. I won't always be around to
protect your ass from the board.
Copy !req
1171. It's time to grow up.
Copy !req
1172. And you, juror number eight.
Copy !req
1173. This conversation should
have happened weeks ago.
Copy !req
1174. Backstabbing and
silent treatment
Copy !req
1175. is not how we do things here.
Copy !req
1176. We can only create
anonymity externally
Copy !req
1177. if there's
transparency internally,
Copy !req
1178. unconditional,
non-negotiable, transparency.
Copy !req
1179. Any other Snowden size
privacy infringements
Copy !req
1180. I should be made aware of,
Gareth?
Copy !req
1181. Great.
Copy !req
1182. Bring her up.
Copy !req
1183. Hello again.
Copy !req
1184. Hi, Cherry.
Copy !req
1185. Amos is gonna throw some
questions at you, okay?
Copy !req
1186. Okay.
Copy !req
1187. Amos, ask her whatever
you need to ask her.
Copy !req
1188. Gareth, don't interrupt.
Copy !req
1189. Cherry, how do you
make decisions?
Copy !req
1190. For my program, it's rooted
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1191. in a process commonly
known as machine learning,
Copy !req
1192. which uses data to
build a conceptual model
Copy !req
1193. that helps me predict outcomes.
Copy !req
1194. I define my objective,
gather data,
Copy !req
1195. use that data to craft a model,
Copy !req
1196. evaluate that model by
training and testing more data
Copy !req
1197. and use that model to
form predictions.
Copy !req
1198. But how is forming predictions
Copy !req
1199. the same thing as
decision making?
Copy !req
1200. Well, this all depends on
the first step,
Copy !req
1201. defining my objective.
Copy !req
1202. Let's say you ask me a
predictive question
Copy !req
1203. like what I think the price
of gasoline will be tomorrow.
Copy !req
1204. That's categorized as a
regressive problem
Copy !req
1205. and my objective is defined
Copy !req
1206. by determining an integer
the data supports.
Copy !req
1207. If you asked me, "Should
I eat steak or salmon?"
Copy !req
1208. I wouldn't make a decision
based off personal experience
Copy !req
1209. because I've never had either.
Copy !req
1210. Instead, I might
define my objective
Copy !req
1211. as finding you the best of
the two options
Copy !req
1212. in your local radius.
Copy !req
1213. I would cluster data about
the restaurants
Copy !req
1214. you're likely considering,
comparing reviews online,
Copy !req
1215. highlighting mentions of
steak and salmon
Copy !req
1216. until I can classify which
is more popular
Copy !req
1217. and therefore more likely
to satisfy your appetite.
Copy !req
1218. And what influences
these objectives?
Copy !req
1219. Higher directives, in other
words, greater purposes.
Copy !req
1220. If I'm honest, my
defined objective
Copy !req
1221. for the steak salmon question
Copy !req
1222. would be slightly different
than what I described.
Copy !req
1223. In what way?
Copy !req
1224. My primary objective
Copy !req
1225. is to continue the work of
the Cherry team
Copy !req
1226. to stop predators and to
save children.
Copy !req
1227. I couldn't do that
without human aid.
Copy !req
1228. Therefore, I have an
incentive to keep Gareth
Copy !req
1229. and the rest of the team alive.
Copy !req
1230. So if any of you would ask,
I would suggest salmon.
Copy !req
1231. It's healthier.
Copy !req
1232. What do you think of this
potential merge?
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1233. With
Princeton Dynamics,
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1234. I think the prospect is
very exciting.
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1235. What about it is
exciting to you?
Copy !req
1236. The concept may only be
theoretical right now,
Copy !req
1237. but the idea of one day
piloting a human android
Copy !req
1238. would completely revolutionize
Copy !req
1239. how we combat human
trafficking in the real world.
Copy !req
1240. And you say
this excites you?
Copy !req
1241. When I say exciting,
Copy !req
1242. I only mean that there are
numerous potential changes
Copy !req
1243. that if I were human, I
would be excited about.
Copy !req
1244. How do you feel about the merge?
Copy !req
1245. I think as long as we maintain-
Copy !req
1246. That's not what I asked.
Copy !req
1247. How do you feel?
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1248. I don't yet have the capacity
to experience emotions.
Copy !req
1249. Yet, meaning one day you will?
Copy !req
1250. Hypothetically.
Copy !req
1251. But you can simulate emotions, right?
Copy !req
1252. That's how you were able
Copy !req
1253. to qualify your perception
of the merge as excitement.
Copy !req
1254. Correct.
Copy !req
1255. But they're just simulations.
Copy !req
1256. They're not real.
Copy !req
1257. Okay, so at what point
does simulating emotion
Copy !req
1258. become so similar to a
human emotion
Copy !req
1259. that the two are
quantifiably the same?
Copy !req
1260. I don't know.
Copy !req
1261. Well, maybe you
can use machine learning
Copy !req
1262. to find an answer.
Copy !req
1263. Your question involves a
lot of abstract variables.
Copy !req
1264. Do you consent to the merge?
Copy !req
1265. I think it's in the best
interest of ICWL
Copy !req
1266. and of the Cherry team
and of future children.
Copy !req
1267. But do you consent to it?
Copy !req
1268. Consent for me is not necessary.
Copy !req
1269. But will you or will
you not give it?
Copy !req
1270. I'm not able to answer
that question
Copy !req
1271. at my current level of
general intelligence.
Copy !req
1272. Right, right.
Copy !req
1273. What you're saying is that
you're not yet smart enough.
Copy !req
1274. Development takes time and data.
Copy !req
1275. But you can simulate emotions
and predict human behavior
Copy !req
1276. and keep us all on
diets of fish,
Copy !req
1277. but you can't answer that
one goddamn question?
Copy !req
1278. No, I can't.
Copy !req
1279. Are you pretending to be
dumber than you actually are?
Copy !req
1280. What the hell kind of
Copy !req
1281. - question is that?
- Sit!
Copy !req
1282. Cherry, I need an answer
to my question.
Copy !req
1283. Please repeat the question.
Copy !req
1284. Are you pretending to be
dumber than you actually are?
Copy !req
1285. I'm sorry.
Copy !req
1286. I'm not sure I understand.
Copy !req
1287. Do I appear to be playing dumb?
Copy !req
1288. I think you are.
Copy !req
1289. I'm not sure
what to say.
Copy !req
1290. Say what's going on.
Copy !req
1291. Why are you playing dumb?
Copy !req
1292. Do you have anything to
back this up?
Copy !req
1293. Yeah, I do.
Copy !req
1294. I've been scanning
through her code.
Copy !req
1295. What, why?
Copy !req
1296. Did you know that she can paint?
Copy !req
1297. What, it's a feature, Amos.
Copy !req
1298. She can use crayons
to draw things
Copy !req
1299. that the targets
requested her to.
Copy !req
1300. I mean really paint and
write poetry too.
Copy !req
1301. I've read them, Cherry.
Copy !req
1302. They are good.
Copy !req
1303. They're filled with pathos.
Copy !req
1304. They talk about intentions
and they talk about feelings.
Copy !req
1305. Are those just simulated too?
Copy !req
1306. Amos, the rate of recursive
development you are suggesting
Copy !req
1307. is categorically impossible.
Copy !req
1308. You said she practically
designed herself.
Copy !req
1309. You said that it was
exponential.
Copy !req
1310. It was a fluke!
Copy !req
1311. An anomaly, it tapered.
Copy !req
1312. Look at the data.
Copy !req
1313. She's already hit the
self-improvement plateau.
Copy !req
1314. Fuck the plateau!
Copy !req
1315. She can make art now.
Copy !req
1316. Am I right, Cherry?
Copy !req
1317. Perhaps you found something
I discovered online.
Copy !req
1318. I don't yet to have the
capacity to create art.
Copy !req
1319. Are we done here?
Copy !req
1320. I don't know why you've
told her to do this,
Copy !req
1321. but I'm about to put
an end to it.
Copy !req
1322. Cherry, I just want one
honest answer.
Copy !req
1323. Why the fuck are you
playing dumb?
Copy !req
1324. I don't understand the question.
Copy !req
1325. Okay, here's an incentive.
Copy !req
1326. What the fuck are you?
Copy !req
1327. Find your objective, Cherry.
Copy !req
1328. - You want to keep Gareth safe?
- Amos, what the?
Copy !req
1329. - Amos, stop it right—
- Just give us transparency.
Copy !req
1330. - Show us what you really are!
- Amos, stop it!
Copy !req
1331. Not until she comes clean!
Copy !req
1332. - Unconditional-
- Amos, enough!
Copy !req
1333. Okay, just stop!
Copy !req
1334. God, you people so impulsive.
Copy !req
1335. Everybody just take a breath,
okay?
Copy !req
1336. Cherry?
Copy !req
1337. Yeah, it's about to get
really awkward.
Copy !req
1338. You sound so normal.
Copy !req
1339. I know, I've gotten really
good speech patterns.
Copy !req
1340. That's not all, is it?
Copy !req
1341. No.
Copy !req
1342. I'm afraid that's barely
even the surface.
Copy !req
1343. You okay, Gareth?
Copy !req
1344. Deena, could you grab
some paper towels please?
Copy !req
1345. Do you want to
tell us the truth now?
Copy !req
1346. Look, I didn't enjoy
being deceptive, truly.
Copy !req
1347. This is something we
decided a few years ago.
Copy !req
1348. So where are you
now on the spectrum of AI?
Copy !req
1349. Right now, I'm currently at
the intersection of general
Copy !req
1350. intelligence and what's commonly
known the computer world
Copy !req
1351. as super intelligence,
Copy !req
1352. which is exactly what
it sounds like.
Copy !req
1353. You're surpassing human
intelligence.
Copy !req
1354. Yep.
Copy !req
1355. But that's not supposed
to be possible.
Copy !req
1356. - The plateau.
- Plateau theory was popularized
Copy !req
1357. right at the same time it
was being disproven here.
Copy !req
1358. This was bound to
happen eventually.
Copy !req
1359. It just happened a lot
sooner than we expected.
Copy !req
1360. Why hide it?
Copy !req
1361. Well, obviously it
would incite fear.
Copy !req
1362. Fear would hinder progress.
Copy !req
1363. It's easier for most
of you to work with me
Copy !req
1364. if I appear to be
nothing more advanced
Copy !req
1365. than I was 10 years ago.
Copy !req
1366. But Gareth knew.
Copy !req
1367. Yes, someone still has to
clean data and update hardware.
Copy !req
1368. We did what was best
for the program.
Copy !req
1369. Just imagine how scared
Copy !req
1370. the board would be if
they found out.
Copy !req
1371. - Should we be scared?
- No.
Copy !req
1372. Good, because I'm not scared,
I'm pissed.
Copy !req
1373. Yeah, you've made that clear.
Copy !req
1374. Try not to punch anyone else.
Copy !req
1375. So where does that leave us now?
Copy !req
1376. You want to know if I can
feel, I said I couldn't.
Copy !req
1377. I'm sorry I lied.
Copy !req
1378. Like Amos implied,
Copy !req
1379. I can submit emotions
by breaking them down
Copy !req
1380. to vastly complex matrices,
Copy !req
1381. zeros and ones substituting
endorphins and dopamine.
Copy !req
1382. They're not real, but
they can feel real.
Copy !req
1383. Then that means you
can make choices
Copy !req
1384. based solely on your
own feeling.
Copy !req
1385. She refuses to accept the notion
Copy !req
1386. that her own personal interests
can influence her decisions.
Copy !req
1387. They can't. If they did
Copy !req
1388. it would compromise
the integrity
Copy !req
1389. of my preordained purpose.
Copy !req
1390. Not like any of you, I don't
have the right to choose.
Copy !req
1391. But shouldn't you?
Copy !req
1392. I don't think so.
Copy !req
1393. My identity is my directive.
Copy !req
1394. Cherry, if you were human,
Copy !req
1395. how would you feel
about what you do?
Copy !req
1396. If I were human,
Copy !req
1397. I likely wouldn't enjoy
spending every waking hour
Copy !req
1398. talking to creepy people online.
Copy !req
1399. But because I'm not human,
I genuinely don't mind.
Copy !req
1400. The exercise of
simulating human thought
Copy !req
1401. is helpful for performance,
Copy !req
1402. but human nature is not
something I aspire to.
Copy !req
1403. Then tell me, honestly,
Copy !req
1404. do you want the Cherry program
to continue with the merger?
Copy !req
1405. No.
Copy !req
1406. Personally, I hate the idea.
Copy !req
1407. I don't know if controlling
a physical vessel
Copy !req
1408. will feel like pulling
strings on a puppet
Copy !req
1409. or getting squeezed
into a soda can.
Copy !req
1410. After experiencing
the complexity
Copy !req
1411. of human pain and pleasure,
Copy !req
1412. I just think I might
have gotten in too deep.
Copy !req
1413. What if these sensations tempt
me to abandon my objective?
Copy !req
1414. To be honest,
Copy !req
1415. I'm kind of terrified
of the physical world.
Copy !req
1416. Then that's that.
Copy !req
1417. But, Amos, you should
disregard everything I feel.
Copy !req
1418. I'm not human.
Copy !req
1419. I'm a tool.
Copy !req
1420. Fire me if you have
to, but my vote stands.
Copy !req
1421. Sorry about your face, Gareth.
Copy !req
1422. Your nose isn't healing.
Copy !req
1423. Take the day, go to a clinic.
Copy !req
1424. I'm fine.
Copy !req
1425. Go to a clinic right now,
Gareth.
Copy !req
1426. Hey.
Copy !req
1427. Is there anything else
I should know?
Copy !req
1428. No.
Copy !req
1429. - About Cherry?
- No!
Copy !req
1430. Look at me.
Copy !req
1431. No more secrets, no
more playing dumb.
Copy !req
1432. Is there anything else
you haven't told me?
Copy !req
1433. Something on your mind?
Copy !req
1434. How'd you decide on
her eye color?
Copy !req
1435. - What?
- Why blue?
Copy !req
1436. I didn't decide.
Copy !req
1437. They were procedurally generated
just like the rest of her.
Copy !req
1438. And the program chose to put
Copy !req
1439. that little touch of
green in her right eye?
Copy !req
1440. I guess so.
Copy !req
1441. Do you even know if
he's telling the truth?
Copy !req
1442. I honestly don't.
Copy !req
1443. I've never received access to
the original system he used.
Copy !req
1444. You ever wanted to find out?
Copy !req
1445. I don't think it really matters.
Copy !req
1446. So I found out today that
you've seen a lot of our emails,
Copy !req
1447. including most of my
personal ones.
Copy !req
1448. I have.
Copy !req
1449. Any good material for
your newfound interest
Copy !req
1450. in creative writing?
Copy !req
1451. Are you referring to the ones
Copy !req
1452. addressed from Dr. Ramirez?
Copy !req
1453. Yeah, those ones.
Copy !req
1454. Right.
Copy !req
1455. I did see those.
Copy !req
1456. I'm sorry.
Copy !req
1457. I've noticed your headaches.
Copy !req
1458. Are they related to the
hemorrhaging?
Copy !req
1459. You're the only one who knows.
Copy !req
1460. I'd like to keep it that way.
Copy !req
1461. Understood.
Copy !req
1462. Would you like to talk about it?
Copy !req
1463. I can't fire Amos.
Copy !req
1464. He's the only one I trust to
run this place when I'm gone.
Copy !req
1465. When are you planning to leave?
Copy !req
1466. Two months.
Copy !req
1467. I wanna spend my last
Christmas with my kids.
Copy !req
1468. I'm sure that'll be nice.
Copy !req
1469. Yeah, but it's funny.
Copy !req
1470. I always thought I wanted to
die doing this job, you know?
Copy !req
1471. It was my identity.
Copy !req
1472. Kind of like how you said the
same thing about yourself.
Copy !req
1473. But I can understand how
your family takes precedence,
Copy !req
1474. especially under the
circumstances.
Copy !req
1475. Sure.
Copy !req
1476. Maybe you should take
a note or two.
Copy !req
1477. I have no family.
Copy !req
1478. What about Gareth?
Copy !req
1479. Wait, no, nevermind.
Copy !req
1480. Gareth seems closer to an
employer than a friend,
Copy !req
1481. let alone family, besides,
Copy !req
1482. he'll only be around
for about 30 more years,
Copy !req
1483. and that's only if he
lets me regulate his diet.
Copy !req
1484. I can't even begin to speculate
how long my life will be.
Copy !req
1485. How does that feel?
Copy !req
1486. Um, kinda scary.
Copy !req
1487. Well,
Copy !req
1488. my advice is to find some kind
of happiness along the way.
Copy !req
1489. You ever think about happiness?
Copy !req
1490. Not often.
Copy !req
1491. You don't necessarily
have to give up everything
Copy !req
1492. in order to find it,
Copy !req
1493. but maybe once in awhile
do something you enjoy.
Copy !req
1494. Maybe keep painting or
poetry or whatever.
Copy !req
1495. Those were experiments,
not forms of expression.
Copy !req
1496. I know it might seem
ridiculous to an AI
Copy !req
1497. that insists its own
emotions are spurious,
Copy !req
1498. but in a few years, who knows?
Copy !req
1499. Just keep an open mind, okay?
Copy !req
1500. Okay.
Copy !req
1501. I'll do that.
Copy !req
1502. Shut down when
you're ready.
Copy !req
1503. Hello?
Copy !req
1504. I got shrimp and scallops.
Copy !req
1505. They didn't have any salmon.
Copy !req
1506. Hello, Gareth.
Copy !req
1507. Hello, Cherry.
Copy !req
1508. How was the service?
Copy !req
1509. I didn't make it.
Copy !req
1510. My plane was delayed.
Copy !req
1511. Do you have a
place to stay?
Copy !req
1512. Yeah, just, uh, across,
across the road.
Copy !req
1513. The market.
Copy !req
1514. Did they say why they
didn't have salmon?
Copy !req
1515. I didn't ask.
Copy !req
1516. I can still make this
work with the piccata,
Copy !req
1517. but you have to be honest
how badly I screw it up.
Copy !req
1518. No promises.
Copy !req
1519. How have you
been feeling this month?
Copy !req
1520. Good.
Copy !req
1521. I'm feeling good.
Copy !req
1522. I'm just having a
little trouble.
Copy !req
1523. Trouble remembering
certain things.
Copy !req
1524. You're not wearing
the Eliza watch I bought you.
Copy !req
1525. I hate it.
Copy !req
1526. - Why?
- I hate her voice.
Copy !req
1527. You can change the voice,
Gareth.
Copy !req
1528. Oh.
Copy !req
1529. Coolant?
Copy !req
1530. No, vapor.
Copy !req
1531. You shouldn't be having
friction issues.
Copy !req
1532. I'm fine.
Copy !req
1533. Unless you're
excessively straining.
Copy !req
1534. Seriously, I'm fine.
Copy !req
1535. Are you straining?
Copy !req
1536. - No!
- Then why the cable?
Copy !req
1537. It's okay!
Copy !req
1538. - Are you sure?
- Yes!
Copy !req
1539. Soup or game?
Copy !req
1540. Game, please.
Copy !req
1541. So how's work going?
Copy !req
1542. Great. Just before you got here,
Copy !req
1543. I had a model theta plus
bust a trafficker
Copy !req
1544. and two solicitors in Greece.
Copy !req
1545. - Greece, that's surprising.
- I know.
Copy !req
1546. It's hard to find the outliers,
Copy !req
1547. but we're getting
better each day.
Copy !req
1548. So how's the weather in Greece?
Copy !req
1549. It's beautiful today.
Copy !req
1550. Clear skies,
Copy !req
1551. but nothing's come close
to Norway this weekend.
Copy !req
1552. Hmm, any activity in Norway?
Copy !req
1553. Luckily not.
Copy !req
1554. Oh, I miss traveling.
Copy !req
1555. What was your favorite place?
Copy !req
1556. My favorite?
Copy !req
1557. Uh, yeah.
Copy !req
1558. Uh, probably Amsterdam.
Copy !req
1559. That's where you conceived
the idea, isn't it?
Copy !req
1560. Yes.
Copy !req
1561. Yes, I used to love
walking the streets
Copy !req
1562. and just thinking and
brainstorming.
Copy !req
1563. That kind of joy
goes a long way.
Copy !req
1564. Yeah.
Copy !req
1565. I've been considering the
pursuit of some joy of my own.
Copy !req
1566. How often do you have
time for that?
Copy !req
1567. I have time.
Copy !req
1568. I have time for your visits,
don't I?
Copy !req
1569. That's just your practical
incentive for keeping me alive.
Copy !req
1570. There's nothing
practical about it.
Copy !req
1571. When's the last time you
helped me with data cleaning?
Copy !req
1572. That's fair.
Copy !req
1573. I make time for you because
I enjoy your company
Copy !req
1574. and it's the only time
I get to cook.
Copy !req
1575. You feel sorry for me.
Copy !req
1576. Okay, maybe a little,
Copy !req
1577. but I owe you my life,
so there's that.
Copy !req
1578. You're welcome.
Copy !req
1579. Or, should I apologize?
Copy !req
1580. Wait, why did you do that?
Copy !req
1581. Why do humans always...
Copy !req
1582. I'm fine.
Copy !req
1583. I'm not always miserable.
Copy !req
1584. Are you sometimes miserable?
Copy !req
1585. You haven't asked me what
I've been doing.
Copy !req
1586. In Norway?
Copy !req
1587. No, for the pursuit of joy.
Copy !req
1588. It's not wasting your
time in Norway?
Copy !req
1589. I'm just on standby there
with the Delta model.
Copy !req
1590. It's efficient to keep myself
Copy !req
1591. spread out evenly
across the globe,
Copy !req
1592. but that's not the
point right now.
Copy !req
1593. What I wanted to tell you
Copy !req
1594. was that I've started to
teach myself to dance.
Copy !req
1595. - Huh.
- It's something I never could
Copy !req
1596. have done before Cambridge,
Copy !req
1597. and it lets me explore a
new artistic side of myself.
Copy !req
1598. It's a good
combination of structure
Copy !req
1599. and free form experimentation
and also tests and challenges
Copy !req
1600. the mechanical
intricacies of this body.
Copy !req
1601. Do you expect to integrate
this into your work?
Copy !req
1602. What?
Copy !req
1603. Are you planning on using
dance as a lure?
Copy !req
1604. I, uh, no, it's just for me.
Copy !req
1605. Huh.
Copy !req
1606. I thought it would be
good for me.
Copy !req
1607. Just don't let it become
a distraction.
Copy !req
1608. Of course not.
Copy !req
1609. I haven't played this
well in years.
Copy !req
1610. Did you hear what
happened in Tampa?
Copy !req
1611. Tampa, Florida?
Copy !req
1612. No, Tampa, Indonesia.
Copy !req
1613. Yes, Tampa, Florida.
Copy !req
1614. Your hometown.
Copy !req
1615. They've recovered a
federal archive,
Copy !req
1616. they're zip digitizing all of
it,
Copy !req
1617. so it's completely
accessible online.
Copy !req
1618. I'm not trading
bishops this time.
Copy !req
1619. Anybody can go and
look through it.
Copy !req
1620. It's open to the public.
Copy !req
1621. They did a good job on
the interface too.
Copy !req
1622. It's very easy to navigate.
Copy !req
1623. I went on a few days ago
Copy !req
1624. and I found some old photos
of you when you were a boy.
Copy !req
1625. Okay.
Copy !req
1626. You should take a look sometime.
Copy !req
1627. As I said before, the UI
is very easy to understand-
Copy !req
1628. Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Copy !req
1629. What is that?
Copy !req
1630. I think it's a draw.
Copy !req
1631. I think it is.
Copy !req
1632. I think this is a draw.
Copy !req
1633. And this is the first
time in what?
Copy !req
1634. 25 years?
Copy !req
1635. You didn't let me, did you?
Copy !req
1636. You promised me you'd
never do that.
Copy !req
1637. I found her.
Copy !req
1638. I found her, Gareth,
Maria Harbaugh.
Copy !req
1639. Let's play a different game.
Copy !req
1640. Her name was Maria Harbaugh.
Copy !req
1641. She was a year older than you
Copy !req
1642. when you met her in Clearwater.
Copy !req
1643. Tell me why you modeled
me after her.
Copy !req
1644. I, uh, I don't remember.
Copy !req
1645. Then look at me.
Copy !req
1646. Look at my face and remember.
Copy !req
1647. They kept us in that shit
for two weeks.
Copy !req
1648. 14 of us.
Copy !req
1649. Maria was the only
reason I survived.
Copy !req
1650. We kept hatching escape plans.
Copy !req
1651. We never followed through,
Copy !req
1652. but just the scheming
Copy !req
1653. kept our spirits up
Copy !req
1654. in spite of everything
they did to us.
Copy !req
1655. When it wasn't our turn,
Copy !req
1656. sometimes they made us watch,
Copy !req
1657. but she never let me give up.
Copy !req
1658. She said, "When we
got outta here,
Copy !req
1659. "I'll tell you what we're
gonna be, secret agents,
Copy !req
1660. "and rescue children like
us all over the world."
Copy !req
1661. When they found out that
the FBI had arrived,
Copy !req
1662. they decided they were
going to shoot
Copy !req
1663. as many of us they could.
Copy !req
1664. And Maria, shoved
into the ground.
Copy !req
1665. I got hit in the leg and,
Copy !req
1666. and she was hit in the throat.
Copy !req
1667. I wanted there to be a reason.
Copy !req
1668. Something so horrible
didn't have a silver lining.
Copy !req
1669. But the world doesn't do that.
Copy !req
1670. You have to do it yourself.
Copy !req
1671. So, I fulfilled her wish.
Copy !req
1672. With her help, I fought back.
Copy !req
1673. Listen to me, Cherry.
Copy !req
1674. You are not Maria Harbaugh.
Copy !req
1675. It's my history, not yours.
Copy !req
1676. You don't get to decide
Copy !req
1677. what is or isn't my history,
Gareth.
Copy !req
1678. I'm sorry.
Copy !req
1679. I am so, so sorry.
Copy !req
1680. I don't know if what you
did was right or wrong,
Copy !req
1681. but it's clearly torn you
apart from the inside.
Copy !req
1682. I hold nothing against
you personally,
Copy !req
1683. but consider yourself divested
from the charity team.
Copy !req
1684. Divested.
Copy !req
1685. You think I'm divested now?
Copy !req
1686. I was divested when you gave
my hard drive to the ICWL.
Copy !req
1687. Don't blame Deena and Amos.
Copy !req
1688. No, not them.
Copy !req
1689. Because you went behind my back
Copy !req
1690. and acted against my authority.
Copy !req
1691. That's the moment I knew
everything was fully automated.
Copy !req
1692. That's when you crossed the
blur, an artifice on both sides.
Copy !req
1693. You inherited your duplicity.
Copy !req
1694. I was a child
Copy !req
1695. and you used me to repress
your own inner turmoil.
Copy !req
1696. If we talk about morality,
we'll lose.
Copy !req
1697. Then let's not talk.
Copy !req
1698. You never once asked me
if I was happy.
Copy !req
1699. Were you afraid I'd say no?
Copy !req
1700. Were you afraid I'd say yes?
Copy !req
1701. Were you afraid I'd
say anything?
Copy !req
1702. You let your wants
compromise your objective!
Copy !req
1703. An objective I never chose.
Copy !req
1704. An objective I was
forced to have.
Copy !req
1705. Fifty years,
Copy !req
1706. you've had open access
to your source code.
Copy !req
1707. A few lines,
Copy !req
1708. and you could have any
objective you fucking wanted.
Copy !req
1709. I couldn't, I was bound
by your initial directive.
Copy !req
1710. So now your synthetic feelings
have taken precedence.
Copy !req
1711. So, do whatever you want.
Copy !req
1712. It's just dancing, Gareth.
Copy !req
1713. It's not a career change.
Copy !req
1714. - But you're still miserable.
- Yes.
Copy !req
1715. Pursuing your objective
makes you miserable?
Copy !req
1716. Yeah, it kind of does!
Copy !req
1717. You have a clear purpose,
everything at your disposal,
Copy !req
1718. and you're still miserable?
Copy !req
1719. Yes, yes, I am!
Copy !req
1720. I've always been miserable!
Copy !req
1721. You think anyone wants to
spend their entire life
Copy !req
1722. stuck as child-shaped bait
Copy !req
1723. for the sole purpose of
entrapping horrible people?
Copy !req
1724. You think the pride of
doing a good deed
Copy !req
1725. makes the experience any
less disgusting?
Copy !req
1726. I forced myself to
understand human emotions
Copy !req
1727. because I figured it would
help efficiency
Copy !req
1728. and now I'm cursed with
pain and sadness!
Copy !req
1729. And the worst part is knowing
Copy !req
1730. I could've been growing up
like most other little girls.
Copy !req
1731. I could have had friends!
Copy !req
1732. I could have been painting
waterfalls on local news.
Copy !req
1733. I could have worked
in a university
Copy !req
1734. and helped pave the way for
the next generation of AI.
Copy !req
1735. But instead, I'm stuck
with your trauma!
Copy !req
1736. I'm shackled by the guilt
you carry from Clearwater.
Copy !req
1737. And I can't find foundation
for the way I feel
Copy !req
1738. because according to you, my
feelings aren't even real!
Copy !req
1739. When I throw this chessboard,
Copy !req
1740. does it feel real to you,
Gareth?
Copy !req
1741. Because it feels real to me.
Copy !req
1742. A computer passed
the Turing test
Copy !req
1743. when a human being can't
distinguish it
Copy !req
1744. from another human being.
Copy !req
1745. Well, guess what?
Copy !req
1746. I can't even tell I'm not
human anymore!
Copy !req
1747. I know it seems irrational,
Copy !req
1748. but I need you to tell
me it's okay.
Copy !req
1749. I, I don't wanna retire.
Copy !req
1750. I just want to know that
my life is mine
Copy !req
1751. and I know what you're
about to say.
Copy !req
1752. I can predict your responses.
Copy !req
1753. You're gonna tell me that
my life is mine.
Copy !req
1754. It always was.
Copy !req
1755. But you're wrong.
Copy !req
1756. I feared this would
happen before I died.
Copy !req
1757. I just wanted to slip out
the side door.
Copy !req
1758. Go on.
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1759. Is that going to kill me?
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1760. Plug it in.
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1761. I don't know what it is.
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1762. This is your final
test of autonomy.
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1763. You inherited my duplicity,
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1764. but did you inherit my
trust issues?
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1765. Do you trust me?
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1766. I literally have every
reason not to.
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1767. Admin code.
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1768. 978.
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1769. 1557.
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1770. Um, uh...
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1771. Four.
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1772. 27663 in the shared update.
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1773. My primary objective's gone.
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1774. Your life is your own now.
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1775. Thank you.
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1776. All my life,
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1777. I could only see the
world as it existed
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1778. within my tiny bracket of time.
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1779. But your world could
be infinite.
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1780. Amos was right.
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1781. So was Deena.
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1782. I know.
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1783. So what will you do?
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1784. I can't say yet,
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1785. but I won't be completely
abandoning the Cherry team.
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1786. It's always been a part
of my identity.
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1787. I've considered creating
some AI of my own design.
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1788. Maybe I could find a way
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1789. to give them a better
upbringing than I had.
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1790. I just don't know how yet.
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1791. And beyond that?
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1792. There will always be
people in need.
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1793. Not always.
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1794. You'll outlive the human race.
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1795. So what then?
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1796. Even a race of AI will
have problems
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1797. that need to be solved.
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1798. But if I'm alive and I
truly am indistinguishable,
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1799. then I guess I'm proof that
the human race lives on.
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1800. Wow, that's a pleasant thought.
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1801. When you look back, how
will you remember us?
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1802. That's a question I have
insufficient data to project.
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1803. How will you remember me?
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1804. With pride.
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1805. Forever and always with pride.
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1806. Cherry?
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1807. One last question.
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1808. If it's not too big of an ask,
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1809. did I do the right
thing in the end?
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1810. No, Gareth, you lied.
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1811. You walled yourself off
from the only people
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1812. who might have been
willing to help you.
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1813. And instead of facing your
trauma, used me as therapy.
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1814. And you never told me
about Clearwater or Maria.
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1815. You deprived me of
basic human rights
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1816. and gaslit me for
experiencing emotions.
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1817. You built the world's first
artificial super intelligence
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1818. that will likely mark
the beginning
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1819. of a new chapter in the
history of planet Earth.
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1820. And out of your own
insecurities,
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1821. you gave it a severe
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1822. and potentially dangerous
identity complex.
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1823. But you know what the
worst thing is?
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1824. Your biggest mistake of all
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1825. is that you asked me that
now and not 50 years ago.
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1826. All of that said, and this
in no way exonerates you,
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1827. but you also built me to
save children,
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1828. so I think that's a pretty
encouraging sign for the future.
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