1. Peace! Happiness! Smile!Copy !req
2. 1, 234!
Smile! More teeth!Copy !req
3. Don't let the camera
catch you looking bad!Copy !req
4. Smile! 1, 2, 3, 4!Copy !req
5. Real joy, not just pleasure!Copy !req
6. And natural beauty!
This isn't fake!Copy !req
7. Okay, peace! Peace! Peace!Copy !req
8. I'm looking for an actress...Copy !req
9. an actress to play a mother.Copy !req
10. Old ladies like you...Copy !req
11. When you see
movie stars on TV-Copy !req
12. - you must dream of becoming one.Copy !req
13. - No, I don't.
- Why not?Copy !req
14. - You have nothing else to do.
- No, I'm busy.Copy !req
15. These women won't agree
to play communists like this.Copy !req
16. It might work if we
invite them to your house first...Copy !req
17. But if we ask them right here,
they'll be afraid.Copy !req
18. People might think
they really are communists.Copy !req
19. I disagree... In my neighborhood
everybody would do it.Copy !req
20. Then let's go there instead.
It's impossible here.Copy !req
21. This whole area was communist.Copy !req
22. We're looking for
women with children -Copy !req
23. - to play communist wives.Copy !req
24. You try to prevent us
from burning down your house.Copy !req
25. But in the end
we burn it down.Copy !req
26. 'Mother, they burned
our house down!'Copy !req
27. Like that.Copy !req
28. And don't worry if you touch
her breasts. You're still a kid.Copy !req
29. Ready?Copy !req
30. Kill them!Copy !req
31. No!Copy !req
32. - Destroy their house!
- No, please don't!Copy !req
33. Burn it!Copy !req
34. Kill!Copy !req
35. Cry! Weep!Copy !req
36. Don't burn my house.Copy !req
37. Keep crying!Copy !req
38. Okay cut, cut!Copy !req
39. Whether this ends up
on the big screen -Copy !req
40. - or only on TV
it doesn't matter.Copy !req
41. - But we have to show...
- That this is the history!Copy !req
42. This is who we are!Copy !req
43. So in the future
people will remember!Copy !req
44. It doesn't have to be a big film -Copy !req
45. - like Rank Organization,
Paramount Pictures, MGM...Copy !req
46. We, in our simple way
step by step -Copy !req
47. - will tell the story-Copy !req
48. - of what we did
when we were young!Copy !req
49. Excuse me...Copy !req
50. There's many ghosts here, because
many people were killed here.Copy !req
51. - They died unnatural deaths.
- Unnatural deaths.Copy !req
52. They arrived perfectly healthy.Copy !req
53. When they got here
they were beaten up... and died.Copy !req
54. At first, we beat them to death...
But there was too much blood.Copy !req
55. There was so much blood here...Copy !req
56. So when we cleaned it up,
it smelled awful.Copy !req
57. To avoid the blood,
I used this system.Copy !req
58. Can I show you?Copy !req
59. Sit there.Copy !req
60. Face that way.Copy !req
61. We have to re-enact this properly.Copy !req
62. This is how to do it -Copy !req
63. - without too much blood.Copy !req
64. I've tried to forget all this
with good music... Dancing...Copy !req
65. Feeling happy...Copy !req
66. A little alcohol...Copy !req
67. A little marijuana...Copy !req
68. A little... what do you call it?
Ecstasy...Copy !req
69. Once I'd get drunk,
I'd 'fly' and feel happy.Copy !req
70. Cha cha.Copy !req
71. He's a happy man.Copy !req
72. Anwar Congo,
from the paramilitary group.Copy !req
73. You've heard of him?
From the Medan Cinema.Copy !req
74. Now that I'm governor,
I stab him if he threatens me.Copy !req
75. Everyone was scared of him.Copy !req
76. The only one not scared was me-Copy !req
77. - because he looked after me
when I was a kid.Copy !req
78. When I was in high school -Copy !req
79. - I was the only one
not scared of him -Copy !req
80. - because I didn't think of him
as a big gangster.Copy !req
81. But when people heard his name,
they'd be terrified.Copy !req
82. - Why?
- Because he's one of the killers.Copy !req
83. Now, the communists' children
are starting to speak out -Copy !req
84. - trying to reverse the history.Copy !req
85. One of them wrote, 'I'm Proud to be
the Child of a Communist.'Copy !req
86. But this won't last long -Copy !req
87. - because the people won't accept it.Copy !req
88. Communism will never be
accepted here, because -Copy !req
89. - we have so many gangsters,
and that's a good thing.Copy !req
90. The word 'gangster' comes
from English. 'Free men'.Copy !req
91. Thugs want freedom to do things,
even if they're wrong...Copy !req
92. But if we know
how to work with them -Copy !req
93. - all we have to do is direct them.Copy !req
94. We were gangsters.
We didn't have real jobs.Copy !req
95. So we'd do anything for money...Copy !req
96. just to buy nice clothes.Copy !req
97. This was the cinema -Copy !req
98. - where I worked.Copy !req
99. I'd stand here,
scalping tickets and showing off.Copy !req
100. When films were popular,
we'd scalp tickets.Copy !req
101. But when the communists
were strong -Copy !req
102. - they demanded
a ban on American films.Copy !req
103. They wanted fewer
American films.Copy !req
104. - So we gangsters made less money.
- Because there was no audience.Copy !req
105. Hollywood films were popular.Copy !req
106. Without them the gangsters
didn't make as much money.Copy !req
107. As we say:
'Dinner missed the belly'Copy !req
108. When we'd watch happy movies,
like Elvis movies -Copy !req
109. - we'd leave the cinema smiling,
dancing to the music.Copy !req
110. Our hands...Copy !req
111. Still dancing...Copy !req
112. Still in the mood of the film...Copy !req
113. if girls passed,
we'd whistle.Copy !req
114. We loved it.
We didn't care what people thought.Copy !req
115. Here was the paramilitary office,
where I always killed people.Copy !req
116. I'd see the guy
being interrogated...Copy !req
117. I'd give him a cigarette.
I'd still be dancing, laughing...Copy !req
118. it was like we were killing...Copy !req
119. happily!Copy !req
120. When my mom was alive -Copy !req
121. - sometimes,
when I was screaming...Copy !req
122. my mom would rush in
and wake me up.Copy !req
123. 'Before you sleep, wash your feet!'Copy !req
124. 'Pray properly Don't just sleep.'Copy !req
125. I know my bad dreams
come from what I did...Copy !req
126. killing people
who didn't want to die.Copy !req
127. I forced them to die.Copy !req
128. Why are you daydreaming,
my love?Copy !req
129. Are you so uncertain?Copy !req
130. You're a star now!Copy !req
131. Amazing!Copy !req
132. This guy's a star!Copy !req
133. Joshua, film the photos!Copy !req
134. That's the president's father-in-law,
Sarwo Edhie.Copy !req
135. - I'll introduce them one-by-one.
- That's the president.Copy !req
136. That's him with the president.Copy !req
137. Ibrahim Sinik is famous
all across the country!Copy !req
138. We gangsters keep him
well protected.Copy !req
139. We wish him
a long, prosperous life.Copy !req
140. But don't forget
to share your money!Copy !req
141. Ask Joshua for money.Copy !req
142. After all, he's from London!Copy !req
143. You interrogated communists
in your newsroom?Copy !req
144. He was always
gathering information.Copy !req
145. When he had the information -Copy !req
146. - he'd say: 'Guilty!' and we'd
take them away and kill them.Copy !req
147. When you interrogated
communists in your office -Copy !req
148. - what questions did you ask?Copy !req
149. Whatever we asked,
we'd change their answers -Copy !req
150. - to make them look bad.Copy !req
151. As a newspaper man -Copy !req
152. - my job was to make
the public hate them.Copy !req
153. And your relationship
with the army?Copy !req
154. - The army.
- We had no formal relationship.Copy !req
155. But after we captured
the communist youth -Copy !req
156. - and beat them to a pulp -Copy !req
157. - we gave them to the army
but the army wouldn't take them.Copy !req
158. They said,
'Just dump them in the river.'Copy !req
159. Do you remember
exactly what the army said?Copy !req
160. I didn't bring the victims.
I had men for that.Copy !req
161. Why would I do such grunt work?
Why would I kill people?Copy !req
162. I didn't have to! One wink from me
and they're dead!Copy !req
163. Pancasila Youth!Copy !req
164. How you doing, Anwar?Copy !req
165. This is the real Anwar Congo!Copy !req
166. Pancasila Youth,
servants of the nation...Copy !req
167. Once our sails go up -Copy !req
168. - we never turn back!Copy !req
169. - Pancasila!
- Forever!Copy !req
170. All Pancasila Youth members
are heroes.Copy !req
171. From exterminating
the communists -Copy !req
172. - to fighting neo-communists
and left-wing extremists-Copy !req
173. - and those who want
to destroy our country...Copy !req
174. This isn't only the duty
of the army and police.Copy !req
175. We, Pancasila Youth,
must take a stand.Copy !req
176. These are threats to the nation,
and we must take action.Copy !req
177. They say Pancasila Youth
is a gangster organization.Copy !req
178. If we're gangsters-Copy !req
179. - I'm the biggest
gangster of all.Copy !req
180. Oh, shit!Copy !req
181. How did Pancasila Youth
exterminate the communists?Copy !req
182. We killed them all.Copy !req
183. That's what happened.Copy !req
184. May I hit the ball now?Copy !req
185. We have too much democracy
it's chaos.Copy !req
186. What is this 'democracy'?Copy !req
187. Things were better under
the military dictatorship.Copy !req
188. Better economy More security.Copy !req
189. Gangsters are free men.Copy !req
190. They want to enjoy, life
in their style.Copy !req
191. Relax and Rolex.Copy !req
192. You definitely have a mole
on your pussy.Copy !req
193. Definitely.Copy !req
194. That was great.Copy !req
195. If I get a strike,
I get a massage!Copy !req
196. There must be many ghosts here.Copy !req
197. They arrived perfectly healthy.Copy !req
198. Then they were beaten up.Copy !req
199. And died.Copy !req
200. Sit here.Copy !req
201. We have to re-enact this properlyCopy !req
202. I never would have
worn white pants.Copy !req
203. I never wore white.Copy !req
204. I always wore dark colors.Copy !req
205. I look like I'm dressed for a picnic.Copy !req
206. My acting has to be violent.Copy !req
207. And maybe I should dye
my hair black.Copy !req
208. And now he's dead.Copy !req
209. But how do you feel
watching this?Copy !req
210. How do I feel?
Back then I felt more free.Copy !req
211. Older men are gentle,
but young men...Copy !req
212. Especially me, because I watched
so many sadistic movies.Copy !req
213. We were influenced by them.
So we...Copy !req
214. We were more cruel
than the movies.Copy !req
215. I know a good location
for a torture scene.Copy !req
216. Behind the school,
in the old toilets...Copy !req
217. - But the neighbors will hear...
- They know me.Copy !req
218. If I look at them,
they run away.Copy !req
219. Look, I'm laughing.
I did it wrong, didn't I?Copy !req
220. It's my mistake.Copy !req
221. I was influenced
by films starring -Copy !req
222. - Marlon Brando, Al Pacino...Copy !req
223. Those were my favorites.
And westerns with John Wayne.Copy !req
224. I brought these clothes
from home.Copy !req
225. Hopefully they express my vision.Copy !req
226. Hey you have to change your shirt.
Put on a white one.Copy !req
227. You'll look lovely in this!
Perfect!Copy !req
228. - What the fuck is this?
- Just a little decoration.Copy !req
229. It matches your body shape.Copy !req
230. It's perfect!Copy !req
231. - This one's for the 'Big Boss'.
- Yep. It's perfect for me.Copy !req
232. And you know where I got
the inspiration for it?Copy !req
233. I always watched gangsterfilms -Copy !req
234. - where they always kill with wire.Copy !req
235. It's faster with wire.Copy !req
236. Because when you pull the wire
hard, the victim can't grab it...Copy !req
237. He can't, because it cuts in...Copy !req
238. it's great to be
a communist, huh?Copy !req
239. Don't just nod. Say 'Yes sir!'Copy !req
240. - Wanna smoke, Pang?
- No.Copy !req
241. Try this 'neo-colonialist' cigar.Copy !req
242. Have a puff.Copy !req
243. Just stick it in your nose
if you don't want to smoke it.Copy !req
244. - Look at him!
- Look at me.Copy !req
245. Look him in the eye!Copy !req
246. Hold on, Joshua.
It's evening prayers.Copy !req
247. - Don't tie the blindfold so tight.
- I didn't.Copy !req
248. The way I pull it
just looks tight.Copy !req
249. Even by the window it's hot.Copy !req
250. 'Human rights!'Copy !req
251. All this talk about 'human rights'
pisses me off.Copy !req
252. 'We want a little human rights!'Copy !req
253. Back then
there was no human rights.Copy !req
254. - Because you made a revolution.
- That's no excuse.Copy !req
255. For example, in Argentina
some generals launch a coup d'état-Copy !req
256. - and then they're convicted
of human rights violations.Copy !req
257. But I'm a gangsterCopy !req
258. I'm a gangster A free man.Copy !req
259. A movietheater gangster.Copy !req
260. Not much education.Copy !req
261. - A human drop out.
- A drop out.Copy !req
262. There are people like me
everywhere in the world.Copy !req
263. They still look great.Copy !req
264. There were many
Chinese communists!Copy !req
265. I got a thick book
with all their names.Copy !req
266. I'd visit them,
'How much you gonna pay?'Copy !req
267. They'd say
'Please, Sir don't! I'm old.'Copy !req
268. We used them for their money
We didn't kill them.Copy !req
269. But if they didn't pay we killed
them. They can't have it both ways.Copy !req
270. If they didn't pay...Copy !req
271. we killed them.Copy !req
272. These Chinese are diff cult.
Sometimes they piss me off.Copy !req
273. That's it...
You sure speak good Chinese.Copy !req
274. When I need money
there's nothing like an old friend.Copy !req
275. With others, if it's not enough,
I won't accept it.Copy !req
276. Hi Lung. C'mon, shake my hand.
It's been a long time.Copy !req
277. - I need money.
- Why me?Copy !req
278. I'm asking you nicelyCopy !req
279. I don't even ask the others.
I just punch them...Copy !req
280. An uppercut right in the stomach.Copy !req
281. You give this sincerely?
Then thank you very much.Copy !req
282. Our organization is planning
a big meeting. We need money.Copy !req
283. We need more than normal.Copy !req
284. We need a huge amount.Copy !req
285. Don't give the usual amount.Copy !req
286. What's this shit?Copy !req
287. Give more
or I won't accept it.Copy !req
288. - Please...
- I'd never accept so little.Copy !req
289. Here.Copy !req
290. That's not enough.Copy !req
291. What's wrong with you, Cik?Copy !req
292. We consider you our father Cik.Copy !req
293. So throw in more, and we'll take it,
because this isn't for just anybody.Copy !req
294. Count it up and put it in.Copy !req
295. The spirit of Pancasila Youth -Copy !req
296. - which people accuse
of being gangsters...Copy !req
297. Gangsters are people
who work outside the system -Copy !req
298. - not for the government.Copy !req
299. The word 'gangster'
comes from 'free men'.Copy !req
300. This nation needs 'free men'!Copy !req
301. If everyone worked for
the government-Copy !req
302. - we'd be a nation of bureaucrats.
We'd get nothing done.Copy !req
303. We need gangsters
to get things done.Copy !req
304. Free, private men
who get things done.Copy !req
305. Use your muscles!Copy !req
306. Muscles aren't
for beating people up -Copy !req
307. - although beating people up
is sometimes needed.Copy !req
308. - Once more, Pancasila!
- Forever!Copy !req
309. - Pancasila!
- Freedom!Copy !req
310. While you wait for this train,
we wish to inform you -Copy !req
311. - that the traffic laws are there
to protect you and your family.Copy !req
312. We also inform you,
that in accordance with the law...Copy !req
313. - This is me, Anwar Congo.
- Oh, that's you!Copy !req
314. Look, I'm rolling a joint.Copy !req
315. You're smoking pot.Copy !req
316. That's me. I'm wearing a plaid shirt,
camouflage pants, saddle shoes...Copy !req
317. See how 'elite' I am?Copy !req
318. This is what you should wear
in the studio scene.Copy !req
319. And for the killing scene... Jeans.
I wore jeans for killing.Copy !req
320. When you kill people, you should
wear thick pants. Like this...Copy !req
321. - How about a checkered pattern?
- That'd be great, but small ones.Copy !req
322. To look cool,
I imitated movie stars.Copy !req
323. But I didn't copy Elvis PresleyCopy !req
324. Herman, I'll make you
a gorgeous dress!Copy !req
325. - More energy!
- We're ready boss!Copy !req
326. Burn them all!Copy !req
327. Finally you got it!Copy !req
328. Cry 'What's going on, mom?'
'Leave us alone!'Copy !req
329. Wait everybody!
Anwar show us how to kill.Copy !req
330. You! Come here!Copy !req
331. What's going on?Copy !req
332. Who says I'm a communist?Copy !req
333. Hold him down!Copy !req
334. Torture him! Kill him!Copy !req
335. Are you listening?Copy !req
336. Stop denying
you're a communist!Copy !req
337. - Okay fine!
- Leave our grandfather alone!Copy !req
338. You take him, I'll take the kids!Copy !req
339. - You love these kids?
- Please stop.Copy !req
340. Sit!Copy !req
341. - Or I'll smash this kid!
- Let me go!Copy !req
342. If you love these kids,
you better stop lying.Copy !req
343. It's your choice!Copy !req
344. Cut!Copy !req
345. Amazing!Copy !req
346. Why do people watch James Bond?Copy !req
347. To see action.Copy !req
348. Why do people watch films about
Nazis? To see power and sadism!Copy !req
349. We can do that!Copy !req
350. We can make something
even more sadistic than...Copy !req
351. more sadistic than what
you see in movies about Nazis.Copy !req
352. Sure I can!Copy !req
353. Because there's never been a movie
where heads get chopped off-Copy !req
354. - except in fiction,
but that's different -Copy !req
355. - because I did it in real life!Copy !req
356. What's clear is no film
has ever used our method.Copy !req
357. We can attract a huge audience!Copy !req
358. Humor... it's a must.Copy !req
359. - Romance?
- We've got it!Copy !req
360. Fuck this umbrella!Copy !req
361. Herman's trapped.Copy !req
362. He should scream,
'Leave me alone! Stop! Stop!'Copy !req
363. Meanwhile, the three of us scream,
'You communist bitch!'Copy !req
364. Keep attacking her!Copy !req
365. I'm gonna rape you!
I'm gonna kill you!Copy !req
366. How long have you been pregnant?
You'll give birth to a communist!Copy !req
367. But if the audience is
tense the whole time -Copy !req
368. - with nothing to entertain them,
it will never work!Copy !req
369. On Saturday night,
I went to the movies.Copy !req
370. Oh, I'm not gonna
shake my ass or anything.Copy !req
371. I watched the movie
alone with my girlfriend.Copy !req
372. The film was sold out -Copy !req
373. - so I bought tickets from
the movie theater gangsters.Copy !req
374. Oh how lovely...Copy !req
375. - Adi! How's the family?
- We're all fine.Copy !req
376. Was it a good flight?Copy !req
377. - How've you been, Anwar?
- I'm fine.Copy !req
378. - The city has changed a lot.
- Really?Copy !req
379. I've tried to call you many times.Copy !req
380. But you never answer my calls.Copy !req
381. Your nose needs more.Copy !req
382. - Do you remember Soaduon?
- Yes, where is he?Copy !req
383. Over there. Soaduon Siregar.Copy !req
384. Now he takes credit for everything,
but back then he was nobodyCopy !req
385. I remember him.Copy !req
386. - Adi, this is Soaduon Siregar.
- I remember you.Copy !req
387. He's one of Ibrahim's Sinik's
journalists.Copy !req
388. As they say:Copy !req
389. 'Although camels live in Arabia,
they never get to visit Mecca.'Copy !req
390. Being close to a rich boss
didn't make him rich.Copy !req
391. Just like me.
Have a seat.Copy !req
392. Interrogation of Communist, Take 2Copy !req
393. We give land to the farmers.Copy !req
394. We give them fertilizer, seeds,
farming equipment...Copy !req
395. In order to spread
communism, right?Copy !req
396. Indeed, we want to show that
the Communists are the best party.Copy !req
397. Why do you recruit people
to join an illegal party?Copy !req
398. But back then, it wasn't illegal.Copy !req
399. - It wasn't?
- Before 1965? Of course not!Copy !req
400. It's easy to make the communists
look bad after we destroyed them.Copy !req
401. So, the communists were not
more cruel than us.Copy !req
402. We were the cruel ones!Copy !req
403. 'Cruel' is totally
different from sadistic.Copy !req
404. - No, it isn't. They're synonyms.
- No.Copy !req
405. Sadism is different.Copy !req
406. - You're playing with words!
- No, I'm not.Copy !req
407. You're playing with words.Copy !req
408. It bumped its head.Copy !req
409. Sometimes I think... if my dad
was a communist and was killed -Copy !req
410. - I'd be upset. That's normal, right?Copy !req
411. For example, if you killed my father
I'd be upset with you.Copy !req
412. Why'd you kill my father?Copy !req
413. Then, you don't let me go to school.
You don't let me work.Copy !req
414. You don't even let me marry
This needs to be changed.Copy !req
415. There's been no official apology -Copy !req
416. - but what's so hard
about apologizing?Copy !req
417. The government would apologize,
not us.Copy !req
418. It would be like medicine.
It would reduce the pain.Copy !req
419. - Forgiveness.
- Wouldn't they curse us secretly?Copy !req
420. They curse us secretly...
Because if they cursed us openly...Copy !req
421. They'd be arrested!
So they whisper their curses?Copy !req
422. For me, Adi, in the end...Copy !req
423. I'm disturbed in my sleep.
Maybe because-Copy !req
424. - when I strangled people with wire
I watched them die...Copy !req
425. But when you used other methods,
you also watched.Copy !req
426. Yes, but when I'm falling asleep,
it comes back to me.Copy !req
427. That's what gives me nightmares.Copy !req
428. You feel haunted
because your mind is weak.Copy !req
429. Have you ever been
to a neurologist?Copy !req
430. If I went to a neurologist,
it would mean I'm crazy.Copy !req
431. No! Psychiatrists are not
for crazy people.Copy !req
432. Psychiatrists aren't for crazy
people. They're nerve experts.Copy !req
433. Even I've been to a nerve expert...
But for a mild stroke.Copy !req
434. See, your nightmares are just
a nerve disturbance.Copy !req
435. Come on, give it a try!Copy !req
436. If you see a shrink,
you talk, he talks.Copy !req
437. Then he gives you nerve vitamins.Copy !req
438. Remember the 'Crush
the Chinese' campaign in 1966?Copy !req
439. All along Sudirman Street -Copy !req
440. - I killed every Chinese
person I met. I stabbed them!Copy !req
441. I don't remember how many
but it was dozens.Copy !req
442. If I met them, I stabbed them.Copy !req
443. All the way to Asia Street,
where I met my girlfriend's dad.Copy !req
444. Remember my girlfriend
was Chinese?Copy !req
445. 'Crush the Chinese' became
'Crush my Girlfriend's Dad'!Copy !req
446. So I stabbed him, too!
Because he was Chinese!Copy !req
447. He fell into a ditch.
I hit him with a brick. He sank.Copy !req
448. Killing is the worst crime
you can do.Copy !req
449. So the key is to find a way -Copy !req
450. - not to feel guiltyCopy !req
451. it's all about finding
the right excuse.Copy !req
452. For example, if I'm asked
to kill someone...Copy !req
453. If the compensation is right...Copy !req
454. then of course I'll do it, and
from one perspective it's not wrong.Copy !req
455. That's the perspective
we must make ourselves believe.Copy !req
456. At first, I was scared...
These are top gangsters!Copy !req
457. Like you and Anwar...Copy !req
458. Terrifying!
And making a film! It's shocking!Copy !req
459. But if you want a true story
I have one.Copy !req
460. Tell us. Because everything
in this film should be true.Copy !req
461. There was a shopkeeper.Copy !req
462. He was the only Chinese person
in the area.Copy !req
463. To be honest,
he was my stepfather.Copy !req
464. He was my stepfather...Copy !req
465. But although
he was my stepfather-Copy !req
466. - I lived with him
since I was a baby...Copy !req
467. At 3 AM,
someone knocked on our door.Copy !req
468. They called my dad. Mom said,
'It's dangerous! Don't go out.'Copy !req
469. But he went out.Copy !req
470. We heard him shout, 'Help!'
Then, silence.Copy !req
471. They took him away
We couldn't sleep until morning.Copy !req
472. - How old were you?
- 11 or 12...Copy !req
473. I remember it well.Copy !req
474. And it's impossible to forget!Copy !req
475. We found his body
under an oil drum.Copy !req
476. The drum was cut in half-Copy !req
477. - and the body was under it,
like this...Copy !req
478. His head and feet were
covered by sacks -Copy !req
479. - but one foot poked out like this.Copy !req
480. That same morning,
nobody dared help us...Copy !req
481. We buried him like a goat
next to the main road.Copy !req
482. Just me and my grandfather
carrying the body-Copy !req
483. - digging the grave... No one
helped us. I was so small.Copy !req
484. Then, all the communist families
were exiled...Copy !req
485. We were dumped in a shantytown
at the edge of the jungle.Copy !req
486. That's why to be honest,
I've never been to school.Copy !req
487. I had to teach myself
to read and write.Copy !req
488. Why should I hide this from you?Copy !req
489. I promise I'm not
criticizing what we're doing.Copy !req
490. It's only input for the film.
I promise I'm not criticizing you.Copy !req
491. Look, everything's
already been planned.Copy !req
492. We can't include every story
or the film will never end.Copy !req
493. And your story is too complicated.
It would take days to shoot.Copy !req
494. - Maybe we can work it in...
- Or it can motivate the actors.Copy !req
495. We believe this man's a communist.Copy !req
496. After we decided to kill him, there
were many reactions. Some prayed.Copy !req
497. - Come on, pray.
- 'God help me!'Copy !req
498. How do you tell him he's going
to die? Angrily or softly?Copy !req
499. I tried to make them accept
that they were going to die.Copy !req
500. Anwar teach us how to torture.Copy !req
501. 'You want me to use this?'Copy !req
502. - Should I scare him?
- Yes.Copy !req
503. You want me to use this?Copy !req
504. Then, beg him not to.Copy !req
505. Now, take the cloth
and blindfold him.Copy !req
506. Josh always asks me,
'You worked in the same office -Copy !req
507. - how could you not have known?'Copy !req
508. I declare: I never saw anything.Copy !req
509. Now, seeing your re-enactment,
I realize you were so smooth -Copy !req
510. - that even me, a journalist
with such sharp senses...Copy !req
511. I never knew!Copy !req
512. I'm surprised. Because we didn't
hide what we were doing.Copy !req
513. - If you didn't know, I'd be shocked.
- I didn't.Copy !req
514. We were in the same office...Copy !req
515. - And we didn't hide it.
- I never knew.Copy !req
516. You were so smooth, and I rarely
went upstairs to your office.Copy !req
517. - Your publisher directed the torture.
- No!Copy !req
518. - He says so himself.
- That's not true!Copy !req
519. He and the other leaders
decided who we killed.Copy !req
520. Look, I'm not calling you a liar,
but logically...Copy !req
521. - Continue, Adi.
- I'm not calling him a liar Joshua.Copy !req
522. But this man, a journalist distancing
himself from these things...Copy !req
523. That's predictable. But logically
something we didn't hide...Copy !req
524. How could he not know?
Even the neighbors knew!Copy !req
525. Hundreds were killed.
It was an open secret.Copy !req
526. - Drink!
- Have some water.Copy !req
527. - Drink!
- It's not poison!Copy !req
528. Drink! Just drink it.Copy !req
529. - Drink it. It will refresh you.
- Give him a cigarette.Copy !req
530. Let him smoke.Copy !req
531. It's sadistic, Adi.Copy !req
532. Ask him again about his activities.Copy !req
533. Have mercy on me.Copy !req
534. Please, sir.Copy !req
535. Should we kill him?Copy !req
536. Wait. Would you give a
message to my family?Copy !req
537. Sure.Copy !req
538. Or could I speak to them
one last time?Copy !req
539. No way.Copy !req
540. Okay pull.Copy !req
541. Lower your head.Copy !req
542. He's dead.Copy !req
543. Wrap him up.Copy !req
544. Listen, if we succeed
in making this film -Copy !req
545. - it will disprove all the propaganda
about the communists being cruel.Copy !req
546. - And show that we were cruel!
- We're the cruel ones.Copy !req
547. If this film is a success! We must
understand every step we take here.Copy !req
548. It's not about fear
it's 40 years ago...Copy !req
549. so any criminal case has expired.Copy !req
550. It's not about fear it's about
image. The whole society will say:Copy !req
551. 'We always suspected it. They lied
about the communists being cruel.'Copy !req
552. it's not a problem for us.
It's a problem for history.Copy !req
553. The whole story will be reversed.
Not 180 degrees... 360 degrees!Copy !req
554. If we succeed with this scene!Copy !req
555. But why should we always hide
our history if that's the truth?Copy !req
556. No, the consequence is...Copy !req
557. that everything Anwar
and I have always said is false.Copy !req
558. It's not the communists
who were cruel.Copy !req
559. - But that's true!
- I completely agree.Copy !req
560. But not everything true
should be made public.Copy !req
561. I believe even God has secrets.Copy !req
562. I'm absolutely aware
that we were cruel.Copy !req
563. That's all I have to sayCopy !req
564. it's up to you what to do about it.Copy !req
565. I don't mean to make you
uncomfortable, but I have to ask...Copy !req
566. By telling yourself it was 'war',
you're not haunted like Anwar.Copy !req
567. But the Geneva Conventions
define what you did as 'war crimes'.Copy !req
568. I don't necessarily agree
with those international laws.Copy !req
569. When Bush was in power
Guantanamo was right.Copy !req
570. Saddam Hussein had
weapons of mass destruction.Copy !req
571. That was right according to Bush,
but now it's wrong.Copy !req
572. The Geneva Conventions may be
today's morality but tomorrow -Copy !req
573. - we'll have the Jakarta Conventions
and dump the Geneva Conventions.Copy !req
574. 'War crimes' are defined
by the winners.Copy !req
575. I'm a winner So I can make
my own definition.Copy !req
576. I needn't follow
the international definitions.Copy !req
577. And more important,
not everything true is good.Copy !req
578. Some truths are not good.
Like re-opening this case.Copy !req
579. Even if everything you're finding out
is true, it's not good.Copy !req
580. But for millions of victims'
families-Copy !req
581. - if the truth comes out, it's good.Copy !req
582. Fine, but start with the first
murder Cain and Abel.Copy !req
583. Why focus on killing
the communists?Copy !req
584. Americans killed the Indians.Copy !req
585. Has anybody been
punished for that? Punish them!Copy !req
586. For me, re-opening this case
is a provocation to fight.Copy !req
587. I'm ready! If the world wants
continuous war, I'm readyCopy !req
588. if you wanna make
us fight, I'm ready!Copy !req
589. What if you were brought to the
international court in the Hague?Copy !req
590. - Now?
- Yes.Copy !req
591. I'd go! I don't feel guilty
so why would I go?Copy !req
592. Because I'd be famous.
I'm ready!Copy !req
593. Please, get me called
to the Hague!Copy !req
594. More hot!Copy !req
595. More hot!Copy !req
596. I like this... Eye candy.Copy !req
597. This is healthy for a guy like me.Copy !req
598. Enjoy the scenery Ma'am.
Okay.Copy !req
599. - One, two, three.
- Ah!Copy !req
600. - Again! One, two, three.
- Ah!Copy !req
601. I was asked to run for parliament.Copy !req
602. 'Why me?' 'Don't worry!
You can do it!' they said.Copy !req
603. Then I thought,
'Why not?'.Copy !req
604. In fact, I'm a perfect candidate
because I'm well known!Copy !req
605. Don't clench your fist.Copy !req
606. Be quiet!
I've almost got it!Copy !req
607. - OK, but don't make a fist.
- You're ruining the sound!Copy !req
608. - But...
- Stop it!Copy !req
609. Be quiet!
You're a real pain! Just shut up!Copy !req
610. Long live the Businessmen and
Workers Party! I am Herman...Copy !req
611. ready to fight
for workers' rights.Copy !req
612. Remember to vote
for me on election day!Copy !req
613. If I get elected and get
on the Building Commission -Copy !req
614. - I can get money from everyone.Copy !req
615. For example, if a building
is 10 cm too small...Copy !req
616. I can demand
'Tear down the building!'.Copy !req
617. They'll say, 'Please don't report us.
Here's your money'.Copy !req
618. Even if nothing's
wrong with the building -Copy !req
619. - if I threaten them,
they'll give me money anyway.Copy !req
620. Not just a little money
In a block of 10 buildings...Copy !req
621. if each pays $10000,
just do the math!Copy !req
622. That's already $100,000.Copy !req
623. That's only one neighborhood!Copy !req
624. Actually parliament should
bethe most noble place in society.Copy !req
625. But if we see
what they do there...Copy !req
626. They're really just
robbers with ties.Copy !req
627. What illegal businesses are
Pancasila Youth involved in?Copy !req
628. Gambling.Copy !req
629. Gambling, night clubs.Copy !req
630. Supermarkets.Copy !req
631. But that's not illegal.
They just hire us as security.Copy !req
632. - The illegal ones?
- Gambling.Copy !req
633. - Any others?
- Smuggling.Copy !req
634. Illegal fishing, illegal logging,
illegal gambling...Copy !req
635. and if they don't pay
we blackmail them.Copy !req
636. Let's welcome our candidate,
Marzuki!Copy !req
637. Long live our party!Copy !req
638. Pancasila!Copy !req
639. Ready!Copy !req
640. What am I supposed to say?
How does it begin?Copy !req
641. - What's the first sentence?
- I'm Herman.Copy !req
642. - I'm Herman!
- Stand up, you'll look better.Copy !req
643. Ladies and gentlemen... What
comes next? I can't rememberCopy !req
644. I'm Herman, from the Businessmen
and Workers' Party!Copy !req
645. - Any free T-shirts?
- Nope... Ma'am, here's my card.Copy !req
646. T-shirts! We want presents!Copy !req
647. Don't worry about money or presents.
We'll come back with gifts.Copy !req
648. Pray for us, hopefully he'll win.Copy !req
649. Tell people
who ask for presents...Copy !req
650. 'We'll come back with gifts
if we win.'Copy !req
651. Tell them, 'We're filming today'Copy !req
652. - Don't forget.
- Just a card?Copy !req
653. Where's 'the bonus'?
Don't we get anything else?Copy !req
654. - 'The bonus' comes later.
- Once you're elected?Copy !req
655. - Honey where do you think you are?
- Yes, but...Copy !req
656. Many of the parties
bribe people to vote for them.Copy !req
657. In fact, they all do.Copy !req
658. And when you see thousands
of people at a rally -Copy !req
659. - all of them
were paid to be there.Copy !req
660. They consider it going to work.Copy !req
661. Without money they won't come.Copy !req
662. They'll ask each other,
'how much did you get?'.Copy !req
663. And leaders just get paid more!Copy !req
664. Nowadays, nobody believes
in what they're campaigning for.Copy !req
665. We've all become
like soap opera actors.Copy !req
666. Our souls have become
like soap opera actors.Copy !req
667. They look happy,
but inside they're pissed off!Copy !req
668. Fuck this shit, they're thinking.Copy !req
669. Where's the injured one?Copy !req
670. Where's the crippled one?Copy !req
671. - Which?
- The injured one.Copy !req
672. There she is.Copy !req
673. - Sweet little duck.
- Don't! You'll hurt her again.Copy !req
674. She's weak
because you broke her leg.Copy !req
675. Don't do that.
She's a baby!Copy !req
676. Say 'I'm sorry Duck.'Copy !req
677. - I'm sorry Duck.
- That's it.Copy !req
678. Now say 'It was an accident.
I was scared, so I hit you.'Copy !req
679. Say 'It was an accident.'
Speak loudly.Copy !req
680. - Sorry Duck.
- And pet her a little.Copy !req
681. Now the communist
has become a ghost.Copy !req
682. He was killed and became a ghost.Copy !req
683. - Haunting you.
- Haunting me.Copy !req
684. Do you feel trauma seeing this?Copy !req
685. If he came to me at night,
I'd be terrified.Copy !req
686. It's like the ghosts hate me.Copy !req
687. Because in my dreams they
have threatening voices...Copy !req
688. - They laugh, but frighteningly!
- Try to laugh.Copy !req
689. Anwar's nightmare, take 2.Copy !req
690. Standby.Copy !req
691. Record.Copy !req
692. I thought I killed you!Copy !req
693. - What did I do wrong?
- Just get up, surprised.Copy !req
694. And ask, 'Why are you alive?'
What's so hard about it?Copy !req
695. I... I thought I killed you!Copy !req
696. Why am I coming to this place?Copy !req
697. Because it affected me so deeply.Copy !req
698. Because the method of killing...Copy !req
699. was very different.Copy !req
700. And that's why I always
have nightmares.Copy !req
701. Is it because I've been
telling you my story so honestly?Copy !req
702. Or maybe
the vengeance of the dead?Copy !req
703. I remember... I said
'Get out of the car'.Copy !req
704. He asked,
'Where are you taking me?'.Copy !req
705. Soon, he refused to keep walking...Copy !req
706. I saw Roshiman bringing me
a machete.Copy !req
707. Spontaneously I walked over to him
and cut his head off.Copy !req
708. My friends didn't want to look.Copy !req
709. They ran back to the car.Copy !req
710. And I heard this sound...Copy !req
711. His body had fallen down...Copy !req
712. And the eyes in his head
were still...Copy !req
713. On the way home, I kept thinking,
why didn't I close his eyes?Copy !req
714. All I could think about was
why didn't I close his eyes?Copy !req
715. And that is the source
of all my nightmares...Copy !req
716. I'm always gazed at by those
eyes that I didn't close.Copy !req
717. That's what always
disturbs me so very much.Copy !req
718. Slit his throat!Copy !req
719. Cut off his head!Copy !req
720. Hooray!Copy !req
721. Did you take it?
Is it good?Copy !req
722. - Thank you.
- No, thank you, Sir.Copy !req
723. No. With such a beautiful girl?
I should thank you.Copy !req
724. Too bad she bleaches her hair...
Makes her look like a whore.Copy !req
725. - Tell him about the car!
- What happened?Copy !req
726. There was this girl...Copy !req
727. She sucked off six men -Copy !req
728. - and not a drop of cum on the floor.Copy !req
729. - Six men?
- She swallowed it all.Copy !req
730. And after the last guy finishes,
she's still sucking -Copy !req
731. - like she wanted more!Copy !req
732. Dear God, make our great
organization a pillar of this nation.Copy !req
733. You know the price of the land?
200 million dollars.Copy !req
734. I gave it to the birds.Copy !req
735. So they have a happy life.
I'm also happy.Copy !req
736. Everybody's terrified of
the paramilitaries.Copy !req
737. So, when a businessman wants
land where people are living...Copy !req
738. if he just pays for it,
it's expensive.Copy !req
739. But we can solve his problem.Copy !req
740. Because people are terrified of us,
when we show up -Copy !req
741. - they say 'Just take the land.
Pay what you like.'Copy !req
742. This is a rose.Copy !req
743. Very very limited.Copy !req
744. Elephant.
This is very very limited.Copy !req
745. I buy these
from every country I visit.Copy !req
746. Hungary
2,250 dollars.Copy !req
747. You've cut off my head...Copy !req
748. You have to be furious,
but also sad.Copy !req
749. You have to be angry sad.
Sadistic.Copy !req
750. Look at your blood!Copy !req
751. Look what I found
in your stomach!Copy !req
752. Look at this!
Your liver.Copy !req
753. It's rotten!Copy !req
754. Even in make-up he looks like
he's from Ethiopia!Copy !req
755. - Tanzania. Like Idi Amin.
- Idi Amin Dada.Copy !req
756. Camera 3 on Citra!
Close up on Citra for the opening.Copy !req
757. Everybody ready?
Roll the leader!Copy !req
758. Indonesian National Television
'Special Dialogue'Copy !req
759. Welcome back to Indonesian
Television's Special Dialogue.Copy !req
760. Today we meet movie theater
gangsters who are making a film -Copy !req
761. - to commemorate the
crushing of the communists.Copy !req
762. We go straight to the perpetrator
and star of the film, Anwar Congo!Copy !req
763. Let's welcome Anwar Congo!Copy !req
764. In those days movie theater
gangsters were very well known.Copy !req
765. What's the origin of
the word 'gangster'?Copy !req
766. Actually gangster comes
from 'free men'.Copy !req
767. That's why we use
a special song in our movie.Copy !req
768. A song called 'Born Free.'Copy !req
769. So you brought the communists
straight to your office?Copy !req
770. Yes, and after we interrogated them,
and decided they shouldn't be alive-Copy !req
771. - we had to kill them.Copy !req
772. And was your method of killing
inspired by gangsterfilms?Copy !req
773. Sometimes!Copy !req
774. It's like...Copy !req
775. Amazing!
He was inspired by films!Copy !req
776. Each genre had its own method.
Like in mafia movies...Copy !req
777. they strangle the guy in
the car and dump the body.Copy !req
778. So we did that too.Copy !req
779. Which means Anwar
and his friends developed -Copy !req
780. - a new, more efficient system
for exterminating communists.Copy !req
781. It was more humane, less sadistic,
and avoided excessive violence...Copy !req
782. But you also just wiped them out!Copy !req
783. - How many people did he kill?
- About 1000.Copy !req
784. How can he sleep?
Isn't he haunted?Copy !req
785. - A lot of them went crazy.
- Yeah.Copy !req
786. - No, they got rich.
- Yeah.Copy !req
787. Rich from stealing.Copy !req
788. But killing all those people
made them crazy too.Copy !req
789. But what's the special meaning
of this film for young people?Copy !req
790. Young people must remember
their history.Copy !req
791. They must never forget.
What's more...Copy !req
792. God must be against communists.Copy !req
793. Yes. God hates communists!Copy !req
794. That's why he's made
this film so beautiful!Copy !req
795. According to General Sarwo Edhie
2.5 million communists were killed.Copy !req
796. Why haven't the victims'
children ever tried to take revenge?Copy !req
797. It's not that they don't want
to take revenge. They can't!Copy !req
798. Because we'd exterminate them all!Copy !req
799. This is the only film shoot to be
visited by a government minister.Copy !req
800. He's coming here just for you,
to motivate and support you!Copy !req
801. You should be proud!Copy !req
802. The whole world will see this.
London, England!Copy !req
803. Forget Jakarta.
Jakarta is nothing!Copy !req
804. Wow! All the killers are here!Copy !req
805. Just improvise
and express your anger.Copy !req
806. Scream, 'Crush the communists!'Copy !req
807. - Crush the communists!
- Wipe them out!Copy !req
808. Okay let's try it.Copy !req
809. Attack on Kampung Kolam. Take 1.Copy !req
810. Don't let any communists escape!Copy !req
811. Kill! Kill!
Kill the communists!Copy !req
812. Slaughterthem!Copy !req
813. Are you ready to attack?Copy !req
814. Take no prisoners!
Destroy them all!Copy !req
815. Burn down their houses!Copy !req
816. Kill the communists!
Chop them up!Copy !req
817. Exterminate them to their roots!Copy !req
818. Chop off their heads
Burn them! Kill them all!Copy !req
819. Kill! Kill!Copy !req
820. Cut! Cut! Cut!Copy !req
821. Joshua and crew, now I'm speaking
as a leader of Pancasila Youth.Copy !req
822. What we've just shown is not
characteristic of our organization.Copy !req
823. We shouldn't look brutal,
like we want to drink people's blood.Copy !req
824. That's dangerous
for our organization's image.Copy !req
825. But we must exterminate
the communists.Copy !req
826. We must totally
wipe them out-Copy !req
827. - but in a more humane way.Copy !req
828. What we just filmed,
I felt awful...Copy !req
829. Especially with my image
right in the middle of it!Copy !req
830. OK, Joshua?Copy !req
831. This is the true story
That's what we all want, right?Copy !req
832. Sure. Sure.Copy !req
833. You know, what we just filmed...Copy !req
834. Don't erase it! Use it to show
how ferocious we can be!Copy !req
835. In fact, we can even be worse!Copy !req
836. So, think of it as
a simulation of our rage -Copy !req
837. - if anyone disturbs our countryCopy !req
838. If they're pretty I'd rape them all.Copy !req
839. Especially back then,
when we were the law.Copy !req
840. Fuck 'em!Copy !req
841. Fuck the shit
out of everyone I meet.Copy !req
842. Are you a communist woman?Copy !req
843. What are you hiding there?Copy !req
844. That's the spirit!Copy !req
845. Especially if you get one
who's only 14 years old.Copy !req
846. Delicious!Copy !req
847. I'd say it's gonna be hell for you
but heaven on earth for me.Copy !req
848. Keep struggling.Copy !req
849. No one wants to be tortured, right?Copy !req
850. If you can save yourself,
you should.Copy !req
851. And if you can
run away go ahead!Copy !req
852. Attention everybody!Copy !req
853. While you're acting,
remember the cameras!Copy !req
854. Ladies, think positivelyCopy !req
855. if you think positively -Copy !req
856. - your acting will be great
and the scene will succeed.Copy !req
857. Positive! Think positive!Copy !req
858. Kill them all!Copy !req
859. Catch him!Copy !req
860. Cut! Cut! Cut!Copy !req
861. Bakti! Bring water!Copy !req
862. Let her rest.Copy !req
863. Febby your acting was great.
But stop crying.Copy !req
864. You're embarassing me.
Film stars only cry for a moment.Copy !req
865. What I regret... Honestly I never
expected it would look this awful.Copy !req
866. My friends kept telling me
to act more sadistic -Copy !req
867. - but then I saw
the women and children.Copy !req
868. Imagine those children's future.Copy !req
869. They've been tortured...Copy !req
870. Now their houses
will be burned down...Copy !req
871. What future do they have?Copy !req
872. They will curse us
for the rest of their lives.Copy !req
873. This was so very very very...Copy !req
874. When you say 'karma'...Copy !req
875. What does it mean for you?
What are you afraid of?Copy !req
876. Karma is like a law of nature.Copy !req
877. A law straight from God.Copy !req
878. Imagine, in all this darkness -Copy !req
879. - it's like we're living
at the end of the world.Copy !req
880. We look around...
There's only darkness.Copy !req
881. It's so very terrifying.Copy !req
882. Hit the table.
To frighten me.Copy !req
883. Start by hitting the table. Hard.Copy !req
884. Trying to ban American films
in Indonesia?Copy !req
885. What are you trying to do?Copy !req
886. Shut up!Copy !req
887. - What are you trying to do?
- Please, sir...Copy !req
888. Don't get friendly with me!
We're not friends!Copy !req
889. Answer the questions!Copy !req
890. Hurry up
or I'll break your legs!Copy !req
891. Dana, ask!Copy !req
892. Besides Titi Kuning,
where else are you active?Copy !req
893. - Hamparan Perak.
- A real big communist.Copy !req
894. Quick! Don't waste our time!Copy !req
895. Lift up your hand
or I'll cut it off.Copy !req
896. Hey look! Gold!Copy !req
897. Take off your watch.Copy !req
898. Put it on the table.
What else do you have?Copy !req
899. A ring? Gold?Copy !req
900. Talk or I cut your face.Copy !req
901. - Talk.
- Tell us everything!Copy !req
902. - Please, don't...
- I won't, but you talk!Copy !req
903. Talk...Copy !req
904. Cut.Copy !req
905. Okay let's do it.Copy !req
906. I place this medal
around your neck.Copy !req
907. - Are you alright?
- I can't do that again.Copy !req
908. Get him some water.Copy !req
909. Have some water.Copy !req
910. We shoved wood in their anus
until they died.Copy !req
911. We crushed their necks
with wood. We hung them.Copy !req
912. We strangled them with wire.
We cut off their heads.Copy !req
913. We ran them over with cars.Copy !req
914. We were allowed to do it.Copy !req
915. And the proof is, we murdered
people and were never punished.Copy !req
916. The people we killed... There's
nothing to be done about it.Copy !req
917. They have to accept it.Copy !req
918. Maybel Im just trying to make
myself feel better but it works:Copy !req
919. I've never felt guilty, never been
depressed, never had nightmares.Copy !req
920. For executing me
and sending me to heaven.Copy !req
921. I thank you a thousand
times, for everything.Copy !req
922. This is great, Joshua.
This is very good.Copy !req
923. I never imagined
I could make something so great.Copy !req
924. One thing that makes me
so proud -Copy !req
925. - is how the waterfall
expresses such deep feelings!Copy !req
926. You know the scene
where I'm strangled with wire?Copy !req
927. - Do you have it here?
- Where you're strangled?Copy !req
928. Please put it on.Copy !req
929. Yan?Copy !req
930. I want him to watch this...Copy !req
931. - Yan?
- He's in bed.Copy !req
932. Yan, watch the scene
where grandpa is tortured and killed.Copy !req
933. Ami, come see grandpa beaten up
and bleeding.Copy !req
934. But this is too violent.Copy !req
935. Watch this.
Grandpa gets beaten up.Copy !req
936. Turn up the volume.Copy !req
937. But this is too violent, Anwar
Are you sure?Copy !req
938. Yes, it's fine.
Will you be scared, Yan?Copy !req
939. This is only a film...
Look at that.Copy !req
940. Grandpa looks so sad,
doesn't he, Yan?Copy !req
941. So scaryCopy !req
942. it's so sad, isn't it?
That's your grandpa.Copy !req
943. That's grandpa being
beaten up by the fat guy.Copy !req
944. Grandpa's head is smashed.Copy !req
945. Did the people I tortured feel
the way I do here?Copy !req
946. I can feel what the people
I tortured felt.Copy !req
947. Because here my dignity
has been destroyed...Copy !req
948. and then fear comes,
right there and then.Copy !req
949. All the terror suddenly
possessed my bodyCopy !req
950. it surrounded me,
and possessed me.Copy !req
951. Actually the people you tortured
felt far worse-Copy !req
952. - because you know it's only a film.
They knew they were being killed.Copy !req
953. But I can feel it, Josh.
Really I feel it.Copy !req
954. Or have I sinned?Copy !req
955. I did this to so many people, Josh.Copy !req
956. Is it all coming back to me?Copy !req
957. I really hope it won't.
I don't want it to, Josh.Copy !req
958. This is where we tortured and
killed the people we captured.Copy !req
959. I know it was wrong -Copy !req
960. - but I had to do it.Copy !req
961. This is...Copy !req
962. This is one of the easiest
ways to take a human life.Copy !req
963. And this...Copy !req
964. This was used to take away...Copy !req
965. the human beings we killed.Copy !req
966. Because without this...Copy !req
967. maybe people would know.Copy !req