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and talk to you guys.
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the Columbia lady shedding light.
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part of the movie when I first saw it.
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- ... theme here, yeah.
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- It was...
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how people responded.
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- Hey, I heard of him.
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- Sure.
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Sam Raimi.
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to get this job actually.
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to hire me...
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for them...
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less heroic characters...
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for this role."
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I had to fight with him...
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and so passionate...
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52. - Yeah.
- So it was a good way to go into it.
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who I flew out to Germany...
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and we were like...
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we started shooting.
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that's a short amount of time...
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a superhero costume...
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they need preparation time.
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on a plane with strep?
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And I called my doctor...
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so I can call Sam...
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to Sam?" And I called...
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"My doctor doesn't think I should go."
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This is about sacrifice.
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because you're coming to Germany."
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and thank God, because that was it.
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right as it was happening...
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- ... that she was it.
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and ideas that came up for casting...
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I'm not showing up in the Rolls.
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to trade in my car for a Jetta...
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of every private school...
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father and son all the time...
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they could be related.
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the nerd thing?
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but people don't realize that.
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Your parents must be very proud.
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They are.
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of Last Temptation of Christ...
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working with him.
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with Jesus Christ tomorrow."
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- Shadow of the Vampire.
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microscope...
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impressed with things...
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couldn't care less about.
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family Sparassidae, has the ability...
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underdog character...
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I had such a good time...
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really good at their job...
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you can spend a few months with...
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and have a good time with.
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shooting, for a couple months...
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for four or five months...
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and Sam...
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and what place they had in the film...
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it gets us all on the same page...
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the same movie with the same tone.
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hired puppets to come in and...
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because I can see my...
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which is a lot of fun.
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supportive, fun kind of project.
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are working on that one.
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that woman's entire presentation.
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- Absolutely.
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- Great.
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but fun and funny.
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She just goes for it and...
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to have a good time and...
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that sets the whole mess in motion.
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our board of directors visit.
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on human performance enhancers.
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Their strength increased by 800%.
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Quest Aerospace...
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what's the tone of this film gonna be?
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a big, fun comic-book movie?
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- The creation of Spider-Man...
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they're gonna go into production.
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and then I had to match his walk.
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- Always a nice shot.
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- Is that your skull there in that shot?
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with the...?" You know.
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- I just, you know...
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to do all that stuff too.
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for a villain actually...
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that were handled pretty well.
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You know, is he just, you know...
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Who's coming from somewhere?
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It's both of those.
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- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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- I don't remember...
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really nice little touches.
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what the hell is my head on top of?"
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- Right, for about eight seconds of...
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- Plus all the stunts and stuff...
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- You did the deal?
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stunts and things that were done...
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that was a great little moment.
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out of his newfound energy...
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it would be strange, but...
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- Oh, of the powers, yeah.
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when I first saw it, I was...
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the side of the bus right there...
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I thought, "Oh, why did that...?"
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and Willem's plot here...
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and all the other fun places.
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with that little scary moment.
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- Yeah.
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to getting...
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J. Jonah Jameson.
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so they can see what is really...
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that was so remarkable to me...
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this film is, is that...
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all these characters for the first time...
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to get to know them.
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- Yeah, I love this stunt. It was fun.
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to get all those things right.
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and...
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and dropping all that stuff...
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a bunch of money.
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- Swear to God.
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- We gave it a shot, you know.
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and he dropped stuff...
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and it just landed so we could...
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that was done digitally.
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I actually have webbing in my wrist.
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- Yes.
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- Yeah, very.
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Well, that's real but some of the...
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And then the...
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- Yeah.
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- Yeah.
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what it was gonna end up like...
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- Yeah.
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the Spidey-sense.
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- Think you're pretty funny, freak?
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of those specialty shots and...
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- I don't wanna fight you, Flash.
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- Kick his ass.
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that triple backward flip there?
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as the stuntman...
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with my gymnastics coach...
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and doing double backflips.
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but I did some double backflips.
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Copy !req
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weren't really smooth.
Copy !req
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- Yeah.
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about the movie...
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the intricate details of this...
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the attention to detail.
Copy !req
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Spider-Man...
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to see a movie...
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out of the loop.
Copy !req
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- Because it all developed so well.
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- This is great.
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when we showed them...
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Copy !req
476. And, you know, like you said,
we were making the film for...
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the comic book...
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who had no idea.
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jumping down.
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jumping from buildings...
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behind me...
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486. and a rig above me
that had wires hooked up.
Copy !req
487. And I was running
and they would yank me up about...
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490. Just completely his idea.
And I was like, "Sam, are you sure?
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491. You know, if it's not good,
please don't leave it in the movie.
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492. Because I'm really putting myself
out there."
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has a few of those moments.
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- "You really want me to...?
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495. Well, okay."
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497. Yeah, it's great. This is one
of the big laughs in the movie.
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499. It was good. And that's why
I like working with people...
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You know, I like their films.
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502. So then it gives me more freedom
to try things.
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503. It's so important not to have that voice
in the back of your head warning you:
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- "You can't really trust this guy.
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505. - You're gonna look like an idiot."
- Yeah.
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during my whole career.
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that he's doing the next one.
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510. - I'll say that hurt.
- Yeah?
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511. That hurt.
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on this movie.
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who were doubling me...
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515. probably had a few... Or did have a
few more bumps and bruises than I did.
Copy !req
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- But I got my share too.
Copy !req
517. And they did a great job...
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did the more risky things...
Copy !req
519. but also helped me choreograph
some of the moves when I was doing it.
Copy !req
520. Yeah. That's another
part of what's collaborative about it.
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"Tobey's gonna go sit in his trailer...
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Copy !req
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- You guys worked together...
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- Get in here and do the dishes.
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They put you in a vehicle...
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- It was across a bridge.
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down the street.
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between shots?
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watched a basketball game.
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535. - Yeah?
- I did, yeah.
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and all of my scenes...
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in New York were shot in L.A.
Copy !req
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543. My wife and I discuss moving out
to the West Coast once in a while...
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- Yeah.
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thus far...
Copy !req
546. but we'll see. You know.
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547. - You have to spend time in both.
- Yeah, you do.
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but you live in Manhattan?
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550. and then when our family grew,
we moved out to the burbs.
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556. This is really the scene where...
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is really a good character...
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558. and she has a really good arc.
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559. And that she's a little bit of a typical...
I don't wanna say "typical."
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560. She's got the thing I can relate to...
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561. which is being in school
and really wanting to be popular.
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562. - Wanting to belong to the cool group.
- Right.
Copy !req
563. And she gets involved with people
maybe for the wrong reasons.
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564. And she hasn't thus far,
in her home life or in school...
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has appreciated her...
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567. or she's felt like she could
open up or trust anyone.
Copy !req
568. And Peter...
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569. you know, is a pretty open kid.
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has been infatuated with her...
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572. so to have the opportunity
to be one-on-one like this...
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"I'm here to listen and understand...
Copy !req
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575. And whatever your troubles are...
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and trust me."
Copy !req
577. And he's very supportive
and encouraging.
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action movie, a superhero movie...
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extended scenes like this...
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between these two kids...
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581. and not just there to set up
the next car chase or whatever.
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584. is 30 seconds or something,
you know.
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585. You're doing
a one-and-a-half page scene...
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586. and it's your big scene, you know.
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587. I actually have to memorize
a couple of lines for...
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588. Yeah, this and the scene later
in the hospital.
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with you and Kirsten.
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- Right.
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595. Of course, this is you
doing all the artwork?
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596. The drawing. Oh, yes, of course.
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597. No. And to be honest with you,
I'm not even sure who...
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- Right.
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- Same guy.
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601. This is a real credit to Sam
and the editors I think.
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something they put together that...
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603. - ... goes into his mind and...
- Right.
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605. but it's supported with what's
going on with the character.
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606. That's the kind of thing,
when you're shooting it...
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607. it's one of those tedious days
where, "Now we're gonna do a shot...
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608. - ... of you looking at your notebook."
- Right. Exactly.
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609. And it all gets put together
and it's all worth it.
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who is so wonderful.
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that she was in...
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614. with Sam directing,
and never worked with her, you know.
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- Yeah, she was in The Gift.
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that I've been in a film with her.
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who's really progressed...
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and supervillain...
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622. - Yeah, right.
- Which is what you were talking about.
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623. Something's bothering him. Maybe
he's too embarrassed to tell me.
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to ask him.
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Copy !req
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627. and it's a very important part
as Uncle Ben for Peter Parker.
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628. And...
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629. He just worked really hard
and would come up with...
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630. He would write stuff
to either support scenes...
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Copy !req
632. and it was great.
He's a really poetic guy.
Copy !req
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so he was...
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for so long...
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635. He seems like he would be
a cool dad.
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636. You shirk your chores.
You have all those...
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in the movie.
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and appreciate what he's saying...
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then...
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Peter's motivation, really...
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one of the great jokes too.
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you're going through."
Copy !req
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647. He says, "I went through exactly..."
No, not exactly.
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- Right.
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649. But if you're a Spider-Man fan,
then you see all this stuff coming.
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gotta say in this scene.
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651. But I think that's what's so great,
is it really felt like...
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Sam's great choice in casting...
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Peter Parker-slash-Spider-Man.
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657. Indeed.
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- That's one of the things...
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Copy !req
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for the right parts.
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of the back of the jeans.
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that probably most people...
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664. Yeah, I'd be among
those most people that missed that.
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some stuff in my bedroom first.
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669. The shirt-off scene
was the first day of work.
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- Yeah.
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or something.
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And we had a huge crowd...
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how to work crowds.
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who signed up and were excited...
Copy !req
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of sitting around...
Copy !req
679. with their brown paper-bag lunches,
it's like...
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680. - The novelty kind of wears off.
- Yeah, the novelty wears off.
Copy !req
681. And he would perform for them...
Copy !req
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on the action.
Copy !req
683. He would whisper things to me,
"Okay, now do this and do that."
Copy !req
684. - And I would, you know...
- You would do it, of course...
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685. - ... because you're not stupid.
- Right.
Copy !req
686. And the guy's arm
is bigger than my chest.
Copy !req
687. No, no. Sign me up.
Copy !req
688. - This is a funny character here too.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
689. Understand the NYWL is not
responsible for any injury you may and...
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690. "Probably Will." Yeah.
Copy !req
691. And you're participating
under your own free will?
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May God be with you. Next.
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of the movie where...
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my 4-year-old's eyes...
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699. - ... when we were watching it.
- Oh, yeah.
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that people are like:
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701. "Oh, yeah, my 3-year-old
loved the movie."
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702. - I'm like, "Really? Okay."
- Yeah.
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about the flavor of the movie...
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you and Willem gets pretty intense...
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706. for a 9-, or 10-, or 11-
or 12-year-old.
Copy !req
707. No, my little guy has actually
only seen a few selected scenes.
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708. - Portions of it.
- But I gotta tell you, in all honesty...
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709. - ... he's a huge Spider-Man fan.
- Yeah?
Copy !req
710. He's jumping off the bunk bed
just like Spider-Man!
Copy !req
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- Oh, yes.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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I'm talking to.
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- Okay, all right.
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appearance.
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716. - Exactly.
- Excellent.
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718. We were all encouraging him,
"You have to do it."
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719. He was throwing stuff at me.
He loves to get involved like that.
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720. He was one of the people
throwing popcorn.
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721. And later he throws rocks at me
and all kinds of stuff.
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Copy !req
723. And he would tell people, "Really,
no, throw it right in his face."
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724. And I love that Bruce Campbell...
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725. who is...
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numerous times...
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who introduces Spider-Man...
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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for them, you know?
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730. Bruce told me,
he was one of the first to warn me:
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731. "Listen, Sam likes to get involved.
Copy !req
732. He likes to throw things at you."
He was, like...
Copy !req
733. He kept prodding him with a stick
in one of the Evil Dead movies.
Copy !req
734. - There's Bruce right there.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
735. This is some kind of mistake.
I didn't sign up for a cage match!
Copy !req
736. He doesn't really know what the extent
of his powers are right now, you know?
Copy !req
737. He just wants the girl. He wants
to make the three grand to buy the car.
Copy !req
738. Basically everybody's motivation
at that age, pretty much.
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739. - At that age?
- Yeah, okay, sorry.
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740. - Does it change?
- I forget, you're still a young pup.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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743. - ... you're a couple years older.
- No, it doesn't change.
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- Right.
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745. it's slightly different. But I'm 47
and I still try and impress...
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746. - ... my wife once in a while.
- There you go.
Copy !req
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this whole sequence take?
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748. I don't recall exactly.
I feel like it was like a week or so.
Copy !req
749. And this was a chair
made of a different material...
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750. but was like an aluminum.
So it was still a metal.
Copy !req
751. - They would...
- And he was still...
Copy !req
752. - ... wailing on you.
- He would bang you...
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753. but it didn't really...
He would just kind of pop it.
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754. - Like he hits and then pulls back.
- Yeah.
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a little contact because...
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756. it gives me something to react to.
Copy !req
757. Oh, yeah, there's nothing worse
than a stunt fight where there's...
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759. There's one thing worse,
getting hurt badly.
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760. - Right.
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metal inside of them...
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But I think, you know...
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a little bruised up after that stuff.
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764. See, that's such a great shot there.
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765. And Sam stays on your eyes maybe
twice as long as a lot of guys would.
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766. - Yeah.
- But it's all worth it.
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768. A hundred bucks'?
The ad said 3000.
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769. Well, check it again, webhead.
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770. It said three grand for three minutes.
You pinned him in two.
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You're lucky to get that.
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773. I missed the part
where that's my problem.
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774. - Hey, what the hell...?
- Put the money in the bag.
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775. Hurry UP!
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Copy !req
777. Stop that guy!
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778. Stop him! He's got my money!
Copy !req
779. Thanks.
Copy !req
780. What's the hell's the matter with you?
You let him go!
Copy !req
781. Cut him off in the lobby
and call the cops!
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782. You could've taken that guy apart.
Now he'll get away with my money.
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783. I missed the part
where that's my problem.
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784. A little vindictive there.
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785. Pleased with himself.
Copy !req
786. Now, that's where people who
don't know the plot of Spider-Man...
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787. are thinking:
Copy !req
788. "Yeah, okay, that was kind of glib
and kind of clever.
Copy !req
789. But I'm not sure if I'm liking
what this guy's doing right there."
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790. Yeah. Well, that's
what I like about it too.
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to a character.
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793. You know, he's a normal person
who makes mistakes.
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794. Right. Yeah, yeah.
He makes bad choices and is not...
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795. This is just...
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796. - What happened?
- Carjacker. He's been shot.
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797. We just called the paramedics.
They're on their way.
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798. Uncle Ben?
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799. Uncle Ben.
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800. Uncle Ben?
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801. Peter.
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802. I'm here, Uncle Ben.
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803. Peter.
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804. They got the shooter.
He's headed south on Fifth Avenue.
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805. We got three cars in pursuit.
All right, folks. Come on, move back.
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806. - That's a great transition.
- Yeah.
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807. - No.
- Yeah, how was that...
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808. wall-climbing effect done?
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809. That would be John Dykstra
and his team of magicians...
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810. animating...
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811. Animating that sequence.
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812. Which I'm not sure
why it was animated exactly.
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813. I feel like it could have...
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814. But some of this stuff is
pretty amazing that they did. It's...
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815. This was green screen,
they shot me.
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816. And then they probably shot some
kind of plate shot for this.
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817. I don't even remember
how we did all this.
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818. You're going between
live-action and animation.
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819. - Yeah. Exactly.
- And it's really... You know...
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820. I've never been a huge fan
of the computer animation...
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821. but it really... It's getting...
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822. - It's getting pretty good now.
- Yeah.
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823. Really, it's pretty seamless
in this movie.
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824. It's certainly the best
that I've seen in any of...
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825. the movies I've seen
with computer animation.
Copy !req
826. It's pretty great. You're
dealing with the progression...
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827. - ... of how good Peter is here.
- Right.
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828. Because, you know,
he's a little awkward and his...
Copy !req
829. The way his body moves around.
And he slowly gets the hang of it.
Copy !req
830. And part of this,
I was actually on a car.
Copy !req
831. And Michael Papa john was actually
shooting live rounds at you or...?
Copy !req
832. They weren't live rounds, no.
They were...
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833. I'm not sure exactly.
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834. That would be animated.
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835. You didn't do that jump?
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836. No.
Copy !req
837. But then I was there
on the car moving.
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838. That stuff was a lot of fun for me.
Copy !req
839. Very different stuff for me,
different than anything I'd ever done.
Copy !req
840. And it was fun to do that.
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841. I think that's one of the things that
almost every actor I've worked with...
Copy !req
842. You know, there's... Again we
hearken back to that 9-year-old boy...
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843. part of you. Just to be running
around, jumping on stuff.
Copy !req
844. And doing action sequences
and fights.
Copy !req
845. You know, that's part of the fantasy
about being in the movies...
Copy !req
846. - ... that you had when you were a kid.
- Exactly.
Copy !req
847. To be, like, stimulated creatively
as an adult...
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848. and get to play as a child
in the playground, like:
Copy !req
849. "Oh, I get to be
in a superhero movie, you know?
Copy !req
850. Oh, that's cool."
Copy !req
851. You know, and do,
like, action sequences.
Copy !req
852. Don't hurt me. Give me a chance.
Give me a chance!
Copy !req
853. What about my uncle?
Did you give him a chance? Did you?
Copy !req
854. And here he realizes that
he is responsible or feels responsible...
Copy !req
855. - ... for his uncle's death.
- Right.
Copy !req
856. His actions have come back
to haunt him.
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857. See you.
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858. Freeze! We've got the place
completely surrounded.
Copy !req
859. They actually built the falcon thing
I'm sitting on in a studio...
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860. and the rest was a plate shot.
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861. Like green screen.
Copy !req
862. Oh, no. My God.
Copy !req
863. This is a scene where
you don't get in on Rosemary...
Copy !req
864. but I came in and she just like...
Copy !req
865. You know? She blew me away. I came
in, I didn't even have to do anything.
Copy !req
866. Just look at her and just, you know,
I was falling to pieces watching her.
Copy !req
867. And that's one of those scenes,
it's so effective and... In a way...
Copy !req
868. when I'm doing a scene like that,
I'm like, "Yeah, but let's see our faces.
Copy !req
869. Let's see the emotion that we're..."
But, you know, we've seen that.
Copy !req
870. We saw that in Uncle Ben's
death scene with you...
Copy !req
871. and it's so interesting
to have that...
Copy !req
872. - ... further-away perspective...
- Yeah.
Copy !req
873. on that gut-wrenching
emotional moment.
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874. It is interesting that she's...
Despite the fact...
Copy !req
875. the camera's on her back
the whole time...
Copy !req
876. - ... and it's, you know, 30 feet away...
- Yeah.
Copy !req
877. she knows... Well, obviously,
she's a great actress.
Copy !req
878. She's working just as hard
as if it were a close-up.
Copy !req
879. - Absolutely.
- That's what makes that scene work.
Copy !req
880. If you two just hit your marks,
went where you were told...
Copy !req
881. because it's a long shot,
then it wouldn't be effective.
Copy !req
882. - That was another great little transition.
- Yeah.
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883. "Chess." That's what we said there.
"Chess." Oh, man.
Copy !req
884. It's not quite the same
without Uncle Ben.
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885. I think it's about a month later...
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886. after his death.
Copy !req
887. And this triangle is interesting...
Copy !req
888. because you have
James and his father...
Copy !req
889. and, you know...
Copy !req
890. James, who's Harry Osborn, isn't
quite what Norman wants in a son.
Copy !req
891. - Right.
- And my character, Peter, is more...
Copy !req
892. You know, a science whiz
who really appreciates his work...
Copy !req
893. and is driven and wants to do
things for himself.
Copy !req
894. It creates some jealousy for Harry.
Copy !req
895. But I really crave that father figure
and that mentor.
Copy !req
896. To get close to somebody like that
who has the kind of accomplishments...
Copy !req
897. he has in science
is amazing for Peter's character.
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898. Right.
Copy !req
899. And this is after.
Copy !req
900. It's an empty house
without Uncle Ben.
Copy !req
901. I missed him a lot today.
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902. I know.
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903. Acting's funny,
because this is one of those scenes...
Copy !req
904. that's kind of a tough scene,
for me anyways.
Copy !req
905. And we did it a few times...
Copy !req
906. and, you know, just one time
I got hooked into it and it felt right.
Copy !req
907. - And the other times didn't. You know?
- Yeah.
Copy !req
908. They say, you know, it's like
lightening in a bottle or something.
Copy !req
909. You're just there to... Turn the camera
on, you hope to catch the moments.
Copy !req
910. Right.
Copy !req
911. And a lot of the other time... A lot of
the other takes here, I felt like I was...
Copy !req
912. You know, I wasn't connected to it,
or I was pushing or it felt okay.
Copy !req
913. This one... And I don't know how it...
Copy !req
914. I'm not talking about
how it comes off to people...
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915. but for me, it felt honest.
Copy !req
916. Well, and that's a...
Copy !req
917. Right there is one of the differences
between working on stage...
Copy !req
918. and working in the movies,
you know, because you do get...
Copy !req
919. You get the opportunity to...
Copy !req
920. - Do it more than once.
- ... have a few sort of:
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921. "Well, that one was okay.
Let's try it again." And...
Copy !req
922. It's also always good
to have the other actor in the scene...
Copy !req
923. you know, really working with you
and connecting with you...
Copy !req
924. - ... and helping to bring that out.
- I need that.
Copy !req
925. I mean, I... I'm not... I'm not good...
Copy !req
926. I mean, I won't say "not good"...
Copy !req
927. but for me, I feed so much
off of the other actor, you know?
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928. Yeah.
Copy !req
929. And just the sort of,
the crying thing itself.
Copy !req
930. I mean, there are a lot of tricks
that you can use...
Copy !req
931. to have water
coming out of your eyes...
Copy !req
932. - ... but if it's not connected...
- Right.
Copy !req
933. and coming from
somewhere inside...
Copy !req
934. at least I think... You know, I think
you can always tell the difference.
Copy !req
935. Yeah. Well, actually,
I don't wanna get into that...
Copy !req
936. but there's
Sean Peon's performance...
Copy !req
937. in Dead Man Walking.
Copy !req
938. There's a whole sequence
where he's not really shedding tears...
Copy !req
939. but he's, like, shaking,
almost like convulsing with emotion.
Copy !req
940. There's no tears
coming out of his eyes...
Copy !req
941. but he's... I mean,
I'm so there with his character.
Copy !req
942. He's working so hard to not
have the tears come out of his eyes.
Copy !req
943. - Unbelievable.
- Yeah, yeah.
Copy !req
944. - Yeah, he can act a little bit.
- Yeah, he's all right.
Copy !req
945. So all this stuff when, you know,
Spider-Man's doing his thing...
Copy !req
946. Now, that's Lucy. That was just
Lucy Lawless who plays Xena...
Copy !req
947. which Sam is involved
in the TV show.
Copy !req
948. So she made a little cameo
that probably most people...
Copy !req
949. Did not know that either.
Quite the makeup job.
Copy !req
950. Yeah, exactly.
Copy !req
951. Those were the Twin Towers reflected
in his eye there for a second.
Copy !req
952. - Now the movie gets going here.
- Thank God!
Copy !req
953. Like a breath of fresh air.
Copy !req
954. Really uptight fresh air.
Copy !req
955. Great head of hair
on the guy though.
Copy !req
956. This is what's fun too
about being an actor. It's like...
Copy !req
957. of course, I know it's you, but
you're disappearing into a character.
Copy !req
958. It's a really definitive character...
Copy !req
959. both in his look and in his attitude,
you know?
Copy !req
960. It's like, people... I would tell people,
"Oh, yeah. That's J.K. Simmons.
Copy !req
961. He was in this and that."
"Really? That's the same guy?
Copy !req
962. Get out of here." You know.
Copy !req
963. Every copy.
Copy !req
964. That's the fun part of being the
semi-anonymous character actor...
Copy !req
965. to be different all the time.
And that, of course, is...
Copy !req
966. - ... Ted Raimi...
- Right.
Copy !req
967. being abused by his boss,
as he is abused by his older brother...
Copy !req
968. the director.
Copy !req
969. Very much so.
Copy !req
970. Put an ad on the front page:
"Cash for a picture of Spider-Man."
Copy !req
971. He doesn't wanna be famous?
I'll make him infamous!
Copy !req
972. There's the Moondance Diner.
Copy !req
973. A landmark downtown.
Copy !req
974. Peter Parker is seeing Mary Jane
for the first time since graduation.
Copy !req
975. - What are you doing around here?
- Begging for a job. How about you?
Copy !req
976. These are of course,
all extras that you see...
Copy !req
977. despite how crowded
New York can be.
Copy !req
978. At least in the local area there.
Copy !req
979. Right. So you have...
Copy !req
980. hundreds of people
working crowd control et cetera...
Copy !req
981. in New York's finest
and everybody else...
Copy !req
982. cordoning off the area,
keeping...
Copy !req
983. the fans and the curious onlookers...
Copy !req
984. wand the photographers,
at cetera, away.
Copy !req
985. Yeah. With people it's kind of fun...
Copy !req
986. you know, because they're excited
about what we're doing...
Copy !req
987. and so I kind of like that.
Copy !req
988. It took me a little getting used to
having several photographers...
Copy !req
989. in your eyeline as you're shooting
something, just clicking away.
Copy !req
990. - That's nice.
- It was disconcerting at first...
Copy !req
991. but then I got used to it.
Copy !req
992. And they try to strike deals
with you too, you know:
Copy !req
993. "Give me a couple good shots
and I'll leave you alone."
Copy !req
994. - Yeah? Great.
- Yeah.
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995. Yeah, and then once you do that
for one guy, then you...
Copy !req
996. Then they're calling all their buddies.
Copy !req
997. Getting on the paparazzi hotline.
Copy !req
998. But...
Copy !req
999. There's Peter being, in her eyes,
supportive and understanding...
Copy !req
1000. unlike other people in her life.
Copy !req
1001. Let's get some lunch some evening.
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1002. And him...
Copy !req
1003. still being affected
and infatuated by her...
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1004. but just finding out
that he's been deceived...
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1005. by his roommate-slash-best friend,
Harry Osborn.
Copy !req
1006. Timing's perfect. Hey.
Copy !req
1007. Five new contracts. It'll be great.
Copy !req
1008. Storming Norman's
making his weekly inspection.
Copy !req
1009. Better than the average
two broke, out-of-work guys'...
Copy !req
1010. - Apartment?
- ... Manhattan apartment. Yeah.
Copy !req
1011. Well, there was actually
big discussions about that...
Copy !req
1012. and how to do it,
and it was basically decided that...
Copy !req
1013. Norman probably owned
the building.
Copy !req
1014. - Right.
- And gave the apartment...
Copy !req
1015. to his son.
And I kept talking to them about...
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1016. You know, and they agreed that it
should be somewhat modest in size...
Copy !req
1017. inside, despite its size.
Because it's obviously...
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1018. - ... a pretty nice place for Manhattan.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1019. I don't think
I could afford that apartment.
Copy !req
1020. - Well, not before Spider-Man.
- Right.
Copy !req
1021. - Maybe after the sequel.
- Yeah, yeah.
Copy !req
1022. Pete, you're probably looking
for a job now, right?
Copy !req
1023. Dad, maybe you can help him out.
Copy !req
1024. - No, I appreciate it, but I'll be fine.
- It's no problem. I'll make a few calls.
Copy !req
1025. No, I couldn't accept it, sir.
I like to earn what I get. I'll find work.
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1026. I respect that.
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1027. You want to make it
on your own steam.
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1028. That's great.
Copy !req
1029. What other skills do you have,
Parker?
Copy !req
1030. I was thinking about photography.
Copy !req
1031. Hello.
Copy !req
1032. Let's go! Move it!
Copy !req
1033. Watch the street!
Copy !req
1034. - And this was on the backlot.
- I was just gonna say...
Copy !req
1035. we didn't block off the New York
streets for this sequence, but...
Copy !req
1036. a good re-creation.
Copy !req
1037. And then all the stuff
in the Spider-Man suit...
Copy !req
1038. I had to go back
and loop everything.
Copy !req
1039. You know, go in the studio
with just a microphone...
Copy !req
1040. and say lines to pictures and stuff.
Copy !req
1041. Crap, crap. Megacrap.
Copy !req
1042. I'll give you $200 for all of them.
Copy !req
1043. I was disappointed at the premiere,
they laughed so hard...
Copy !req
1044. at the first "crap,"
that they missed "mega crap."
Copy !req
1045. That's it.
Copy !req
1046. Obviously a very supportive
audience there that night.
Copy !req
1047. Give you 300.
That's the standard freelance fee.
Copy !req
1048. - Tear up page one. Run that photo.
- Headline?
Copy !req
1049. "Spider-Man, Hero or Menace?
Exclusive Daily Bugle Photos."
Copy !req
1050. I went and spent couple days hanging
around at the New York Post...
Copy !req
1051. soaked up the atmosphere, got the
sense of the big-city newspaper office...
Copy !req
1052. and what it's like.
And that line about...
Copy !req
1053. how much I'll give you
for the photos was actually...
Copy !req
1054. one of the little details
that I gleaned during that process.
Copy !req
1055. - In terms of what standard fees...?
- What's really the going rate for...?
Copy !req
1056. And how'd we do?
Is it pretty realistic?
Copy !req
1057. - We changed it.
- Right.
Copy !req
1058. Because I think it had originally
been something different in the script.
Copy !req
1059. And here's Elizabeth Banks,
plays Betty Brant...
Copy !req
1060. a classic...
Copy !req
1061. Spider-Man relationship
between him and her.
Copy !req
1062. I'm working with her
again in a movie now.
Copy !req
1063. - Oh, yeah?
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1064. - Now, will she be back in sequels?
- I haven't seen the script...
Copy !req
1065. but I imagine. I mean, she works at
the Bugle, so she'll at least be there.
Copy !req
1066. Whether there's
any future with them...
Copy !req
1067. I don't know. There's certainly...
Stuff goes on with them in the comics.
Copy !req
1068. Right. Maybe in the seventh
or eighth sequel, we'll get to that.
Copy !req
1069. Yes.
Copy !req
1070. I'm basically planning on semi-retiring.
I'll do a Spider-Man every two years.
Copy !req
1071. - And that's it.
- Hope that'll pay the mortgage.
Copy !req
1072. Do a little theater here and there.
Copy !req
1073. - Sure.
- Yeah, why not?
Copy !req
1074. And my kids can go to a state school.
You know, I'll be taking it easy.
Copy !req
1075. And they pull the company
out from under him.
Copy !req
1076. With entrenched management.
Copy !req
1077. The deal is off if you come with it.
Copy !req
1078. The board expects your resignation
in 30 days.
Copy !req
1079. You can't do this to me.
Copy !req
1080. I started this company.
Copy !req
1081. You know how much I sacrificed?
Copy !req
1082. He's starting to crack up a little.
Copy !req
1083. A little Mr. Hyde coming out there
in Dr. Jekyll.
Copy !req
1084. Norman, the board is unanimous.
Copy !req
1085. We're announcing the sale
after the World Unity Festival.
Copy !req
1086. I'm sorry.
Copy !req
1087. You're out, Norman.
Copy !req
1088. I have a feeling these OSCORP guys
are gonna meet an unhappy ending.
Copy !req
1089. Something dark
is looming in the future.
Copy !req
1090. They gave him
a little too much information.
Copy !req
1091. They're gonna announce it
right after the Unity Fest.
Copy !req
1092. And here we are in Times Square,
Southern California.
Copy !req
1093. Yes.
Copy !req
1094. And Peter has his first
non-Spider-Man assignment.
Copy !req
1095. Macy Gray.
Copy !req
1096. Coincidentally,
a Columbia recording artist.
Copy !req
1097. Really?
Copy !req
1098. - Strange how that happens.
- Yes.
Copy !req
1099. Funny enough, I was promoting
Spider-Man in Europe...
Copy !req
1100. and she was touring in Europe
and I bumped into her...
Copy !req
1101. in three different countries
while I was promoting Spider-Man...
Copy !req
1102. and I hung out with her a little bit.
And my friend played in front of her.
Copy !req
1103. A buddy of mine who's a musician...
Copy !req
1104. was, you know, just playing
the guitar and singing.
Copy !req
1105. She was like, "Why don't you
come up and open for me?"
Copy !req
1106. - Get out of here.
- He went up. Swear to God. In England.
Copy !req
1107. I forgot the theater,
but it was like 5000 people...
Copy !req
1108. and he walks out on the stage,
just him and his plug-in acoustic...
Copy !req
1109. and he played a Beatles song...
Copy !req
1110. which I won't hum.
Copy !req
1111. M.J., would you do me a favor?
I forgot my drink inside.
Copy !req
1112. A little Spidey-sense. Something...
Copy !req
1113. What could go wrong
in Times Square?
Copy !req
1114. Right.
Copy !req
1115. - Have you seen my father around?
- Well, I'm not sure if he's coming.
Copy !req
1116. Oh, I think he's coming.
Copy !req
1117. - What is that?
- Must be new this year.
Copy !req
1118. What is that?
Copy !req
1119. That's our glider!
Copy !req
1120. One of the times
when Sam is at his best...
Copy !req
1121. Sam Raimi, is doing the scenes
with lots of extras...
Copy !req
1122. when he comes out
to inspire them...
Copy !req
1123. and try to get the reactions
that he's looking for...
Copy !req
1124. out of groups of 10, or 20,
or 100 or 4000 people.
Copy !req
1125. This was such a big job for him too.
Copy !req
1126. He was directing, like, three or four
units at a time sometimes, you know.
Copy !req
1127. It was unbelievable.
Copy !req
1128. This shot I like, coming up of the...
Copy !req
1129. - There's Stan. There. Stan the man.
- That was Stan Lee. Right there.
Copy !req
1130. Peter risking his secret identity
to save a couple people.
Copy !req
1131. - A little bit of a Superman shot.
- The Clark Kent moment there, yeah.
Copy !req
1132. - Why I loved it though, it was good.
- A little homage.
Copy !req
1133. I was a big Superman fan as a kid.
Copy !req
1134. Well, you know, I was that age.
Copy !req
1135. Very tasteful deaths.
Copy !req
1136. Hello, my dear.
Copy !req
1137. It's Spider-Man!
Copy !req
1138. That was Laura Ziskin's daughter.
Our producer.
Copy !req
1139. Willem basically was insisting
on doing almost everything himself.
Copy !req
1140. Yeah?
Copy !req
1141. And part of the reason was...
Copy !req
1142. because he's so specific with
his physicality of the character.
Copy !req
1143. And the stuntmen were great, but...
Copy !req
1144. you know, Willem did it the way
Willem did it, you know.
Copy !req
1145. He really acts
with every ounce of his body.
Copy !req
1146. And he's very in shape.
He's a seasoned yogi...
Copy !req
1147. and has a lot of control...
Copy !req
1148. of his body...
Copy !req
1149. even though he hit me and
kicked me many times for real.
Copy !req
1150. Well, he probably meant to.
Copy !req
1151. Yeah. I think so. It was fun.
Copy !req
1152. But, you know, I'm like...
Copy !req
1153. the younger actor
working with the guy I admire...
Copy !req
1154. and I'm holding up
on my punches, you know.
Copy !req
1155. Now, both you and Willem had the
constraint of working in those outfits...
Copy !req
1156. which obviously were
hot and uncomfortable...
Copy !req
1157. - ... and limited your visibility, et cetera.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1158. Well, Willem's was
actually fairly heavy, his suit.
Copy !req
1159. So I know... He had this, like,
special chair between takes...
Copy !req
1160. so he could relieve
some of the weight of the suit.
Copy !req
1161. Mine was not that heavy...
Copy !req
1162. but it's a one-piece that I couldn't
get in and out of myself...
Copy !req
1163. and my lenses would fog up
a little...
Copy !req
1164. - ... so the vision would be restricted.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1165. If I ever had to use the restroom
or get a sip of water...
Copy !req
1166. it was, like, a 30-minute process.
Copy !req
1167. And the zippers broke all the time.
Copy !req
1168. They weren't even gonna
put zippers on it...
Copy !req
1169. and I insisted.
Copy !req
1170. There were gonna be zippers, but they
weren't gonna put the little handles on.
Copy !req
1171. They did, but they broke anyways.
They ended up stitching me in the suit.
Copy !req
1172. Sewing the suit up
at least 60 percent of the time.
Copy !req
1173. Don't mind us.
She just needs to use the elevator.
Copy !req
1174. So not a lot of potty breaks on days
you were in the Spider-Man garb?
Copy !req
1175. No.
Copy !req
1176. But I think it's...
I mean, we went through...
Copy !req
1177. I went through, like, 30 different
fittings and I went through...
Copy !req
1178. You know, where they cast my body,
which was very uncomfortable...
Copy !req
1179. because the guys who did it
did not tell me that the plaster cast...
Copy !req
1180. would rip hairs out of my body.
Copy !req
1181. Sounds like you got a plaster cast and
a free body-waxing at the same time.
Copy !req
1182. It was fabulous. And it was
some of the most excruciating pain...
Copy !req
1183. I've ever been through.
Copy !req
1184. See, and people think
it's all glamour and parties.
Copy !req
1185. Then I had to stand nearly naked in
front of dozens of people all the time.
Copy !req
1186. - They'd take photos, computer scans.
- Staring at the intricate details.
Copy !req
1187. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
Copy !req
1188. Luckily I had been working out
for many months...
Copy !req
1189. so, you know,
I was the newly buffed Tobey.
Copy !req
1190. And then they played with
the different graphics on the suit.
Copy !req
1191. Three-dimensional webbing versus
webbing that was just in the design.
Copy !req
1192. And finally we came up with...
Copy !req
1193. And face mask versus not
a face mask versus helmet, versus...
Copy !req
1194. just the material. And it was
some kind of a spandex y material...
Copy !req
1195. Lycra or something.
Copy !req
1196. And it was pretty...
Copy !req
1197. You know, it was pretty good
for movement. It was...
Copy !req
1198. They designed it, because Spider-Man
is such an agile character...
Copy !req
1199. so you could move around,
and do flips and run around.
Copy !req
1200. - Right.
- You know.
Copy !req
1201. It wasn't as bad as what I heard
that the Batman suit was.
Copy !req
1202. - Apparently, that was...
- Not fun to move in?
Copy !req
1203. Not fun, yeah.
Copy !req
1204. This wasn't so bad.
Copy !req
1205. He's hearing voices.
Copy !req
1206. Somebody.
Copy !req
1207. Who said that?
Copy !req
1208. Don't play the innocent with me.
Copy !req
1209. You've known all along.
Copy !req
1210. Where are you?
Copy !req
1211. Follow the cold shiver
running down your spine.
Copy !req
1212. Willem would, like,
basically never be in his trailer.
Copy !req
1213. He just always wanted to be in on
the action wandering around the set.
Copy !req
1214. It was good to see.
Copy !req
1215. He was so involved and invested.
Copy !req
1216. And I really think
that's what makes this movie fly...
Copy !req
1217. for me, is that...
Copy !req
1218. people are trying to give real
performances within the comic book...
Copy !req
1219. - ... fantasy world.
- Right.
Copy !req
1220. To say what you won't. To do what...
Copy !req
1221. Yeah, he's a hard-working guy,
pays a lot of attention to detail.
Copy !req
1222. I read an article
that was interesting about...
Copy !req
1223. You know, and I don't wanna...
I'm going to generalize a little...
Copy !req
1224. but how younger actors...
Copy !req
1225. We?
Copy !req
1226. don't use their bodies
as much nowadays.
Copy !req
1227. That it's a lot about head acting.
Copy !req
1228. And it was theorizing that...
Copy !req
1229. because people came out
of the theater much more...
Copy !req
1230. years ago, whereas a lot of people
are just going straight into film...
Copy !req
1231. Right, where it's all about close-ups
and subtlety, yeah.
Copy !req
1232. In theater you're there.
Copy !req
1233. Your whole body, people
are watching all of you all the time.
Copy !req
1234. So I think that's why Willem's
such a great choice, is that...
Copy !req
1235. he really physicalizes
his character.
Copy !req
1236. That was pretty maniacal.
Copy !req
1237. - The old Flatiron there.
- Yup.
Copy !req
1238. - Here we are back there.
- Back in Los Angeles.
Copy !req
1239. Yeah, back in Los Angeles-slash-L.A.-
- slash-New York.
Copy !req
1240. We were in Manhattan
three shots ago.
Copy !req
1241. Now we're in L.A.
Copy !req
1242. How about "Green Meanie"?
Copy !req
1243. Spider-Man wasn't attacking the city.
That's slander.
Copy !req
1244. It is not. I resent that.
Copy !req
1245. No reasoning with J. Jonah.
Copy !req
1246. Do you know what? I really love
what was done with your character.
Copy !req
1247. I don't know where it came from,
exactly“.
Copy !req
1248. but in this scene,
there's some real...
Copy !req
1249. redemptive quality about J. Jonah
because he's kind of a hard-ass...
Copy !req
1250. - ... and whatnot, but...
- That was very important to me.
Copy !req
1251. Sam and I actually met a lot
during preproduction...
Copy !req
1252. and talked about the script...
Copy !req
1253. and trying not to make this guy
two-dimensional either.
Copy !req
1254. Here he is risking his own life to...
Copy !req
1255. He's protecting Peter Parker, which
I think is pretty courageous, you know.
Copy !req
1256. He's like... Oh, he's not such
a bad guy, he's got some courage.
Copy !req
1257. Yeah, he's just got a little burr under
his saddle about old Spider-Man.
Copy !req
1258. In the comic books,
there was something about him.
Copy !req
1259. He had, like, a big admission
where he says...
Copy !req
1260. Someone was questioning him
or he has some confessional...
Copy !req
1261. where he says
he doesn't like Spider-Man...
Copy !req
1262. because Spider-Man is so altruistic
and it's unrealistic or something.
Copy !req
1263. - And how can anybody be that good?
- Right.
Copy !req
1264. And it made him
feel less about himself.
Copy !req
1265. Right, exactly.
He's both suspicious and envious.
Copy !req
1266. - Yeah.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1267. You and I are not so different.
Copy !req
1268. I'm not like you.
Copy !req
1269. This was a good choice,
to be able to see...
Copy !req
1270. - See the eyes.
- ... Willem's eyes in this outfit.
Copy !req
1271. Well, and how to carry a film
and keep an audience interested...
Copy !req
1272. in characters where
you can't see them ever?
Copy !req
1273. Yeah, yeah.
Copy !req
1274. And I thought the eyes were good,
to see Willem's eyes.
Copy !req
1275. And Sam and I talked a lot about
how to keep people...
Copy !req
1276. with Peter Parker
even when he was in the mask.
Copy !req
1277. And, you know, it was challenging,
but I guess you just...
Copy !req
1278. We tried to do it with physicality
and a little bit of dialogue.
Copy !req
1279. Sometimes he talks to himself
to keep people involved.
Copy !req
1280. But this is the villain
spouting his philosophies.
Copy !req
1281. - The bad guy credo here.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1282. A little bit of the, like Darth Vader,
"Join me."
Copy !req
1283. What we could create.
Copy !req
1284. Kind of an antagonistic
buddy scene here.
Copy !req
1285. That's, again, one of the admirable
qualities about Peter Parker, is that...
Copy !req
1286. he doesn't... Not only does
he not go to the dark side...
Copy !req
1287. in a big way, but he doesn't
take advantage of his abilities...
Copy !req
1288. even in small ways for
his own gain, really, like he could.
Copy !req
1289. Right. And I think that came out
of the wrestling situation...
Copy !req
1290. when, you know,
vindictively he let that guy go...
Copy !req
1291. and then felt responsible
for his uncle's death.
Copy !req
1292. The responsibility.
Copy !req
1293. Here we are on the backlot again.
Copy !req
1294. - It's me again.
- Hey!
Copy !req
1295. How was your audition?
Copy !req
1296. I have a feeling it's gonna rain.
Copy !req
1297. - You do?
- I could feel it in the air.
Copy !req
1298. You know what?
Copy !req
1299. I underst... My senses are tingling.
Copy !req
1300. Took two buses and a cab
to get in the neighborhood, but...
Copy !req
1301. So how'd it go?
Copy !req
1302. Kirsten, she's so great because
she's so beautiful, but so real.
Copy !req
1303. So beautiful in a
sort of unglamorous...
Copy !req
1304. - ... actual girl next door, you know.
- Definitely.
Copy !req
1305. Well, that's the thing.
Copy !req
1306. She is gorgeous and sexy,
but not self-conscious at all.
Copy !req
1307. Very confident and self-assured...
Copy !req
1308. and, you know, isn't afraid.
Copy !req
1309. Never mind.
That's none of my business.
Copy !req
1310. It's not?
Copy !req
1311. Why so interested?
Copy !req
1312. I'm not.
Copy !req
1313. You're not?
Copy !req
1314. This is some of the most fun I had,
is doing my scenes with her.
Copy !req
1315. She just gives you so much.
It's amazing because...
Copy !req
1316. I'm trying to think. I think she was 18...
Copy !req
1317. when we started the picture and
then turned 19 during production.
Copy !req
1318. That's what amazing too.
She's been around for so long.
Copy !req
1319. - Not unlike her co-star, actually.
- Right.
Copy !req
1320. Somebody that has...
You know, when I was your age...
Copy !req
1321. I think I was doing summer stock
in Montana.
Copy !req
1322. But people like you and Kirsten,
who started at such a young age...
Copy !req
1323. - I think she even younger than you.
- Yeah. I can't remember...
Copy !req
1324. but 3, or 5, or 6,
somewhere really young.
Copy !req
1325. - And I started when I was, like, 13.
- Yeah, you were an old guy.
Copy !req
1326. - You were almost growed up.
- Yeah. That's right.
Copy !req
1327. This is similar to the screen test
that I did.
Copy !req
1328. Get off me!
Copy !req
1329. Very professional stuntmen.
She was never in danger.
Copy !req
1330. Although this was one
of her favorite scenes...
Copy !req
1331. because she got to
kick some butt.
Copy !req
1332. This is a fun shot here.
I had to run...
Copy !req
1333. in here and I jumped up
in this little trapdoor they had.
Copy !req
1334. Then they shut the door
behind me...
Copy !req
1335. spin around,
and a double dropped down...
Copy !req
1336. all in one shot.
Copy !req
1337. Then it's me. And then they cut
and come in closer, and it's me.
Copy !req
1338. And Kirsten... This is our
big kiss moment coming up.
Copy !req
1339. The much talked about
upside-down kiss.
Copy !req
1340. When we shot her
close-up coverage...
Copy !req
1341. it was before...
I was actually standing...
Copy !req
1342. right side up for part of it.
Copy !req
1343. And she leans off camera...
Copy !req
1344. when he comes up.
Copy !req
1345. And she planted one on me.
Copy !req
1346. - It really is a tough business, isn't it?
- Yeah, it was tough.
Copy !req
1347. I will say
that was the enjoyable one.
Copy !req
1348. When I was actually upside down,
I couldn't breathe.
Copy !req
1349. - Water was pouring down.
- See the veins popping out of his neck.
Copy !req
1350. I mean, it couldn't have been
more uncomfortable.
Copy !req
1351. I literally couldn't breathe.
I apologized to Kirsten:
Copy !req
1352. "Listen, I'm gonna have to
suck air out of the side...
Copy !req
1353. of our mouths."
Because right there...
Copy !req
1354. the mask is rolled up
to my nose and the mask is wet...
Copy !req
1355. so it's no longer breathable at all. I
could only breathe through my mouth...
Copy !req
1356. and then I was kissing her,
so there was nowhere to breathe.
Copy !req
1357. It was unbearable. And it was,
like, 4:30, 5 in the morning.
Copy !req
1358. Of course, yeah.
Copy !req
1359. - Good shot. Oh, yeah, definitely.
- Worth it though, great shot.
Copy !req
1360. Absolutely.
Copy !req
1361. Now, this is not the backlot.
Copy !req
1362. No. And this was New York,
as well.
Copy !req
1363. Yeah. Again, this is a scene that we've
seen versions of this a million times.
Copy !req
1364. And maybe it's just because
I'm a dad now but, you know...
Copy !req
1365. And I apologize for not knowing
this actress's name but she's...
Copy !req
1366. a New York actress that,
you know, works all the time.
Copy !req
1367. She's great. And I've seen her
in a couple other things too.
Copy !req
1368. She's like one of those people,
you know.
Copy !req
1369. You're in the business, you're privy
to watching people's careers grow.
Copy !req
1370. And she was so good.
Copy !req
1371. And then I saw her in
a couple other movies or TV shows...
Copy !req
1372. I'm not sure what,
and I went, "Wow."
Copy !req
1373. I bet she's gonna do
really, really well.
Copy !req
1374. No!
Copy !req
1375. - It's okay. Your baby's fine.
- Oh, my baby!
Copy !req
1376. God bless you, Spider-Man.
Bless you.
Copy !req
1377. - Spider-Man is wanted.
- Right.
Copy !req
1378. A lot of these guys
that play New York's finest...
Copy !req
1379. and/or New York's bravest...
Copy !req
1380. in these movies
actually are New York cops...
Copy !req
1381. or New York firefighters.
Copy !req
1382. I don't know
either one of these guys.
Copy !req
1383. - I don't know if they are.
- Yeah, I'm not sure.
Copy !req
1384. But, yeah, we have a combination
of actors and the real deal.
Copy !req
1385. Where are you?
Copy !req
1386. Where are you?
Copy !req
1387. Of course all of my dialogue
is looped.
Copy !req
1388. That's a whole different challenge,
being in the recording studio...
Copy !req
1389. five months later
and having to try and re-create...
Copy !req
1390. the same level of involvement.
Copy !req
1391. You're pathetically predictable.
Like a moth to the flame.
Copy !req
1392. You end up doing that in just about
every movie you do, even if it's just...
Copy !req
1393. sitting around a table talking,
there's always...
Copy !req
1394. For one reason or another, there's
always some re-recording to do.
Copy !req
1395. Yeah, you always do it,
but this was very heavy.
Copy !req
1396. Oh, great.
Copy !req
1397. Yeah.
Copy !req
1398. This was a cool shot.
Copy !req
1399. How'd you get your body
to do that in slow motion?
Copy !req
1400. - You're amazing.
- Oh, thanks.
Copy !req
1401. - Yeah, in all of that fire too.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1402. To be honest with you...
Copy !req
1403. a lot of times in the movie, I can't
tell when it's me or a stuntman. I swear.
Copy !req
1404. Because a lot of times,
we would both do things.
Copy !req
1405. - Right.
- You know, because...
Copy !req
1406. we wanted it to be me
and sometimes...
Copy !req
1407. there were things I couldn't do
as well as the stuntman...
Copy !req
1408. - ... and we would both try it.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1409. And at first, you know,
I would be all gung ho and say:
Copy !req
1410. "I wanna do it! I wanna do it!"
Copy !req
1411. And they would be...
You know, Sam and Laura...
Copy !req
1412. would discourage me, you know:
Copy !req
1413. "We don't really need you
to do this one and it's dangerous."
Copy !req
1414. And by the end of the film
I was like:
Copy !req
1415. - "No, just let him do it." You know?
- Yeah, "Bring in the double."
Copy !req
1416. - Well, it was a long shoot for you.
- It was a very long shoot, yeah.
Copy !req
1417. And I'll say, another person
behind the scenes...
Copy !req
1418. who really cares
about the character...
Copy !req
1419. and had a lot of great input
was Avi Arad...
Copy !req
1420. who's the head of... I believe
he's the head of Marvel Entertainment.
Copy !req
1421. I mean, I don't know his actual title.
Copy !req
1422. But, you know, these characters
are his babies.
Copy !req
1423. And he just did a fine job
working with everybody on this movie.
Copy !req
1424. And he's gotta be one of the most
prolific producers in Hollywood now...
Copy !req
1425. with all of his Marvel movies.
It's unbelievable.
Copy !req
1426. And he's... The thing about Marvel...
Copy !req
1427. characters...
Copy !req
1428. is that they are relatable,
they are human. They're not...
Copy !req
1429. you know, perfect heroes...
Copy !req
1430. and just evil villains.
Copy !req
1431. This was actually
one of the hardest stunts...
Copy !req
1432. just being up on that wall.
Copy !req
1433. As hard as that... On the ceiling.
As hard as that...
Copy !req
1434. And bleeding, always a drag
when they cut you...
Copy !req
1435. - ... and you have to bleed.
- Right, of course.
Copy !req
1436. Then you gotta rehydrate and you can't
take a potty break because of the suit.
Copy !req
1437. - Great shot here too.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1438. - Hey, everyone.
- Oh, Peter!
Copy !req
1439. Sorry I'm late, it's a jungle out there.
I had to beat an old lady with a stick...
Copy !req
1440. Yeah, now, was that in the script,
or was that...?
Copy !req
1441. I can't remember. I think it might have
been something Sam came up with.
Copy !req
1442. It was really loose. You know,
going into this film, I'm thinking...
Copy !req
1443. you know, super big budget...
Copy !req
1444. you know, potential franchise...
Copy !req
1445. movie series for the studio.
Copy !req
1446. It's gonna be really a lot of chefs
in the kitchen.
Copy !req
1447. But they really gave us a tremendous
amount of freedom to play around.
Copy !req
1448. That's what was great
about this film.
Copy !req
1449. You know, I really went in going,
"Okay, be prepared for anything."
Copy !req
1450. Because I hadn't done a film like this.
But it was the most freedom...
Copy !req
1451. I think I'd had on any film...
Copy !req
1452. which was pretty great.
Copy !req
1453. I stepped off a curb and got clipped
by one of those bike messengers.
Copy !req
1454. Well, let me see.
Copy !req
1455. Oh, my goodness.
Copy !req
1456. We discussed doing a Spidey-sense
moment here at the table.
Copy !req
1457. But despite our budget,
we couldn't afford it.
Copy !req
1458. That's the amazing thing
about movies.
Copy !req
1459. No matter what the budget is,
it's never enough.
Copy !req
1460. There's a top to it.
Copy !req
1461. Whether you're on a 5-million-dollar...
I've been on $400,000 movies.
Copy !req
1462. And this one that, you know, they
won't even tell you how much it cost.
Copy !req
1463. And it's never enough.
Copy !req
1464. - I've got to go.
- Why?
Copy !req
1465. Something
has come to my attention.
Copy !req
1466. Are you all right?
Copy !req
1467. He has just discovered the identity
of Spider-Man.
Copy !req
1468. I planned this so you'd meet M.J...
Copy !req
1469. Well, I guess that's it, then.
Spider-Man's gonna be outed.
Copy !req
1470. Yeah.
Copy !req
1471. That's it. And here's...
Copy !req
1472. Harry Osborn
getting a little insensitive too.
Copy !req
1473. Yeah, it's hard to confront
the old dad figure too much here.
Copy !req
1474. - Yeah.
- He sort of loses his backbone.
Copy !req
1475. You're wrong about her, Dad.
Copy !req
1476. A word to the not-so-wise
about your little girlfriend:
Copy !req
1477. Do what you need to with her,
then broom her fast.
Copy !req
1478. Thanks for sticking up for me,
Harry.
Copy !req
1479. - You heard?
- Everyone heard that creep.
Copy !req
1480. That creep is my father.
With luck, I'll be half of what he is.
Copy !req
1481. Shut up about stuff
you don't understand!
Copy !req
1482. Harry Osborn!
Copy !req
1483. I'm sorry, Aunt May.
Copy !req
1484. Spider-Man is all but invincible.
Copy !req
1485. But Parker, we can destroy him.
Copy !req
1486. Getting advice from himself.
"Attack the heart."
Copy !req
1487. Parker must be educated.
Copy !req
1488. What do I do?
Copy !req
1489. I think it's the merging of
the characters within himself. He's...
Copy !req
1490. Yes?
Copy !req
1491. He's starting to accept his... The evil
side is his more dominant side now.
Copy !req
1492. Warrior attacks
neither body nor mind.
Copy !req
1493. Tell me how!
Copy !req
1494. The heart, Osborn.
Copy !req
1495. First, we attack his heart.
Copy !req
1496. In this scene, Aunt May.
Copy !req
1497. And forgive us our trespasses...
Copy !req
1498. Yeah, it's a great... The characters,
both Aunt May and Uncle Ben have...
Copy !req
1499. a great combination
of wisdom and innocence.
Copy !req
1500. Yeah, absolutely.
Copy !req
1501. And Uncle Ben is really kept alive...
Copy !req
1502. throughout the movie and throughout
the comic books he was too.
Copy !req
1503. Two milligrams IV.
Copy !req
1504. Get the BP.
Copy !req
1505. Aunt May. Is she gonna be okay?
What happened?
Copy !req
1506. You have to leave.
Copy !req
1507. - What happened?
- Those eyes!
Copy !req
1508. Those horrible yellow eyes!
Copy !req
1509. He knows who I am.
Copy !req
1510. Peter gets caught up.
Copy !req
1511. Feeling responsible once again
for a loved one.
Copy !req
1512. That was a great little shot there
of you actually saying the line:
Copy !req
1513. "He knows who I am."
Because it was so important...
Copy !req
1514. to make that... Most people probably
would have understood that...
Copy !req
1515. with just what you were doing
with your face...
Copy !req
1516. but I'm sure Sam felt it was
important to make it very clear.
Copy !req
1517. And it was good, I think,
not to bring back in the voice-over...
Copy !req
1518. idea too much
throughout the movie.
Copy !req
1519. To just use that
as a kind of a bookend device.
Copy !req
1520. Yeah. There was a lot of discussion
about when Peter should realize...
Copy !req
1521. that Norman figured it out.
Copy !req
1522. - Thanks for coming.
- Of course.
Copy !req
1523. How are you?
You okay about the other night?
Copy !req
1524. Yeah, I'm fine. I just felt bad
about leaving Aunt May.
Copy !req
1525. - Have you talked to Harry?
- He called me.
Copy !req
1526. I haven't called him back.
Copy !req
1527. Yeah, and here again in the middle of
this quote-unquote action movie...
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extended scene here...
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1529. about the characters...
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1530. and what's going on in their lives.
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1531. There's so many different...
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1532. It's funny.
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1533. you know...
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1534. stories going on within this.
Copy !req
1535. And it's actually a pretty complex,
epic sort of film.
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1536. But do you think it's true, all the
terrible things they say about him?
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1537. That nice little shot of Aunt May
actually being awake now.
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1538. - Yeah, eavesdropping.
- Listening in to the whole thing.
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1539. I'm sort of his unofficial
photographer.
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1540. Which would be kind of skeevy...
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1541. if it wasn't somebody
as sweet as Aunt May.
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1542. Here's...
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1543. Peter getting himself
in a little bit of a pickle. Going into...
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1544. Speaking in third person
of his alter ego.
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1545. This is really one of the great romantic
little speeches here, though.
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1546. - It's really nice.
- Yeah, it was nice.
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1547. We did a lot of work on the dialogue.
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1548. It was very...
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1549. tricky.
Copy !req
1550. And she's looking back in yours...
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1551. There it is. When you have...
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1552. someone great to work with like
Kirsten, it makes it so much easier.
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1553. Right. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's...
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1554. You're doing all the talking,
but it's so much a two-person scene.
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1555. - Yeah. Yeah.
- She contributes so much to it.
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1556. You can see her, like, progressively
opening and getting touched.
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1557. And then that...
Copy !req
1558. feeds me and informs my stuff.
Copy !req
1559. The truth is, you don't know
what you feel...
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1560. except you know what kind of man
you want to be.
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1561. It's as if you've...
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1562. reached the unreachable...
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1563. and you weren't ready for it."
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1564. You said that?
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1565. Well, something like that.
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1566. There's the little comic relief.
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1567. Yeah, little backpedal. "Yeah, you
know, something like that. Whatever."
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1568. It's great working with actors too,
and it's not always the case, where...
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1569. Obviously, when this scene is shot,
they point the camera on you...
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1570. and do the whole scene,
then they turn everything around...
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1571. take their four hours to light it,
and they point the camera on her.
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1572. But often times,
or at least sometimes...
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1573. you work with other actors who,
when the camera's not on them...
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1574. they kind of show up
and sit there and aren't really...
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1575. contributing much
to what you're doing.
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1576. But it's obvious that you guys
were working for each other a lot.
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1577. Well, I've heard a lot of stories
about that kind of thing.
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1578. And I've been fortunate enough not to
have had to experience it too much.
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1579. Yeah, it's not... I mean, only
a few times that I've felt that way...
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1580. about another actor.
Copy !req
1581. Nobody in this movie.
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1582. No.
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1583. Well, you were right about M.J.
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1584. - Except for maybe Ted Raimi.
- Yeah, that guy. I don't know.
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1585. - How did he get the job?
- I don't know.
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1586. - What was the deal there?
- It was just a good audition, I think.
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1587. And how does he feel about her?
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1588. He's loved her since the 4th grade.
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1589. He pretends like he doesn't, but
there's no one Peter cares for more.
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1590. A little bonding moment
for father and son.
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1591. Yeah, they keep trying.
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1592. I haven't always been there for you,
Havel?
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1593. You're busy. You're an important man.
I understand.
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1594. That's no excuse.
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1595. I'm proud of you.
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1596. I've lost sight of that somewhere.
But I'll make it up to you.
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1597. I'm going to rectify
certain inequities.
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1598. Wake up, little spider.
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1599. Wake up.
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1600. Go home, dear.
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1601. You look awful.
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1602. - And you look beautiful.
- Well, thank you.
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1603. - I don't like to leave you here.
- But I'm safe here.
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1604. - Can I do anything for you?
- You do too much.
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1605. College, a job, all this time with me.
You're not Superman, you know.
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1606. A smile. Finally.
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1607. Haven't seen one of those on
your face since Mary Jane was here.
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1608. Hey.
You were supposed to be asleep.
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1609. You know, you were about 6 years old
when M.J.'s family moved in next door.
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1610. And when she got out of the car,
and you saw her for the first time...
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1611. It reminded me when she said
"you're not Superman" of the trailer.
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1612. I think the people who cut the trailer
in the Marketing Department...
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1613. did such a good job, because
obviously the awareness was...
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1614. very high.
Copy !req
1615. But they also did a good job
of not giving away the entire movie.
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1616. Yes, which is a real pet peeve of mine.
It was a really good trailer.
Copy !req
1617. - It was a good trailer.
- It gave you a real sense of it without...
Copy !req
1618. Not giving away the whole thing, yeah.
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1619. Tell me, would it be so dangerous...
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1620. to let Mary Jane know
how much you care?
Copy !req
1621. Everybody else knows.
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1622. I'll be right back.
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1623. But...
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1624. Come on, pick up.
Copy !req
1625. - Hey, M.J...
- Sing your song at the beep.
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1626. By the machine.
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1627. Hello? You there?
Copy !req
1628. I'm just calling to check up on you.
Will you call me when you get in?
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1629. All right, well...
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1630. Don't...
Copy !req
1631. Don't go up any dark alleys.
Copy !req
1632. Hello?
Copy !req
1633. Can Spider-Man come out to play?
Copy !req
1634. Where is she?
Copy !req
1635. Well, she's on top
of the Brooklyn Bridge.
Copy !req
1636. Was it the Brooklyn Bridge?
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1637. I think so.
Now, a lot of this was done...
Copy !req
1638. on the sound stage
or in green screen...
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1639. - ... but you did some on location too?
- Yes. Yeah.
Copy !req
1640. If that's the tram, I guess it's probably
the 59th Street Bridge, isn't it?
Copy !req
1641. I don't think it's the Brooklyn Bridge.
Is there a Queensboro Bridge?
Copy !req
1642. The Queensboro Bridge
is the 59th Street Bridge.
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1643. There you go.
Copy !req
1644. This is a very cruel choice...
Copy !req
1645. that the Goblin
proposes to Spider-Man.
Copy !req
1646. In a moment.
Copy !req
1647. Now, this whole sequence
is so complicated with...
Copy !req
1648. you know, sound stage,
green screen...
Copy !req
1649. shooting it
on actually the location...
Copy !req
1650. and then the animation.
Copy !req
1651. Yeah, filmmaking has changed
and evolved a little bit.
Copy !req
1652. It's not pointing
the camera at actors anymore.
Copy !req
1653. No.
Copy !req
1654. Yeah, this was great.
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1655. Contrast that with the first sequence
where he's chasing the carjacker...
Copy !req
1656. and trying to get a handle
on his abilities...
Copy !req
1657. and now he's completely
in command.
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1658. Let die the woman you love...
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1659. or suffer the little children.
Copy !req
1660. Kirsten...
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1661. You know, Sam asked Kirsten,
he said:
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1662. "There's a lot of stunts and wire work.
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1663. And are you in shape and prepared...
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1664. to do this and get beat up a little?"
She was like, "Yeah. No problem."
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1665. And I'm thinking, "Come on,
I'm playing Spider-Man.
Copy !req
1666. What does this girl gotta do?"
You know?
Copy !req
1667. And I think that she probably...
Copy !req
1668. had to do as much, if not more.
I love that shot.
Copy !req
1669. - Yeah. Yeah.
- So cool.
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1670. She had to do as much,
if not more...
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1671. stunt stuff...
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1672. stunt work than I did.
Copy !req
1673. This was a bit
of an excruciating sequence.
Copy !req
1674. We're on a sound stage,
hanging from wires all day long.
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1675. - Holding a 6-inch ram in one arm.
- Yeah, of course.
Copy !req
1676. - Right.
- That'll wear you out.
Copy !req
1677. The secret there
is the core strength.
Copy !req
1678. We're gonna bring the barge
right under you.
Copy !req
1679. - He's coming back!
- Listen. I need you to climb down.
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1680. - I can't.
- Yes, you can!
Copy !req
1681. M.J., you can do it. You have to.
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1682. Trust me.
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1683. That's another real acting challenge.
You know, we were talking about...
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1684. the whole crying scene,
emotional scenes.
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1685. You know, to do this
damsel-in-distress thing...
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1686. you know, that Kirsten does here
and maintain that level of panic...
Copy !req
1687. you know, for what
I'm sure was a few days...
Copy !req
1688. - ... of shooting this sequence.
- Oh, yeah.
Copy !req
1689. Then also at Times Square on the
balcony, she had to do all that stuff.
Copy !req
1690. That's another great shot here.
Copy !req
1691. - He's not gonna make it.
- He's gonna make it!
Copy !req
1692. We had all the people...
Copy !req
1693. doubting Spider-Man
with J. Jonah's...
Copy !req
1694. - ... headlines.
- Right.
Copy !req
1695. You know, they're not sure where
Spider-Man's coming from, if he's...
Copy !req
1696. a good guy or a bad guy.
Copy !req
1697. That really always continues
to be the story...
Copy !req
1698. of Peter Parker and Spider-Man.
Copy !req
1699. He's never universally acclaimed
like Superman...
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1700. or some other superheroes.
There's always...
Copy !req
1701. a significant group of people that...
Copy !req
1702. But here's a moment
where he gets some support...
Copy !req
1703. which is encouragement for him
that he's on the right path.
Copy !req
1704. Because it makes
him question himself earlier.
Copy !req
1705. Spider-Man, watch out!
Copy !req
1706. - But the moment of victory is short.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1707. Now, this is the sequence
where I got beat up the most.
Copy !req
1708. Yeah, this...
Copy !req
1709. That's a cool effect.
Copy !req
1710. This is where Willem was not
entirely pulling his punches...
Copy !req
1711. coming up here.
Copy !req
1712. When did you shoot this? Toward the
end that you shot this sequence or...?
Copy !req
1713. We came back to it a couple times,
but I do believe it was towards the end.
Copy !req
1714. And it was really dusty
and smoky and...
Copy !req
1715. As you see, they had to put lots
of blood and sweat all over me...
Copy !req
1716. and I'm in the suit. And dirt.
Copy !req
1717. Yeah, that's another element
that adds to...
Copy !req
1718. - ... a long day.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1719. Then I had to get beat up a lot.
Copy !req
1720. Then I'd have to go back and do
looping and make all these little...
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1721. noises. Try to vary
the grunts and efforts.
Copy !req
1722. And that right there is where I got
some nice little bruises on my ribs.
Copy !req
1723. I had to throw myself into bricks.
Copy !req
1724. Many times.
Copy !req
1725. He might be done for.
Copy !req
1726. Yup. No sequels.
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1727. Spider-Man's gonna buy it.
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1728. But now that you've really
pissed me off...
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1729. He makes the mistake...
Copy !req
1730. talking about torturing
the woman he loves.
Copy !req
1731. M.J. and I...
Copy !req
1732. we're gonna have a hell of a time.
Copy !req
1733. In classic WWF style.
Just when you thought he was down.
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1734. Don't count him out.
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1735. An extra reserve.
Copy !req
1736. It's great that you both have your eyes
to work with in this sequence too.
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1737. Yeah.
Copy !req
1738. Peter, stop!
Copy !req
1739. Stop! It's me.
Copy !req
1740. Mr. Osborn.
Copy !req
1741. Peter, thank God for you.
Copy !req
1742. You killed those people
on that balcony.
Copy !req
1743. The Goblin killed!
I had nothing to do with it!
Copy !req
1744. Don't let him take me again.
I beg you. Protect me.
Copy !req
1745. Don't trust him.
Copy !req
1746. You tried to kill Aunt May.
You tried to kill Mary Jane.
Copy !req
1747. But not you.
Copy !req
1748. This is great, because as an audience,
you're going back and forth here.
Copy !req
1749. Oh, now you know.
He's definitely, you know...
Copy !req
1750. - Right.
- ... still in the Mr. Hyde persona.
Copy !req
1751. It's fully taken him.
Copy !req
1752. Thank God for you.
Copy !req
1753. Give me your hand.
Copy !req
1754. Believe in me
as I believed in you.
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1755. I've been like a father to you.
Copy !req
1756. Be a son to me now.
Copy !req
1757. Uncle Ben lives.
Copy !req
1758. His name was Ben Parker.
Copy !req
1759. Godspeed, Spider-Man.
Copy !req
1760. Thank God for that Spidey-sense.
Copy !req
1761. Peter...
Copy !req
1762. - That's gonna leave a mark.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1763. Don't tell Harry.
Copy !req
1764. That's a nice moment
before he dies.
Copy !req
1765. "Don't tell Harry." He does care.
Copy !req
1766. - Spidey misunderstood once again.
- Right.
Copy !req
1767. He's trying to do a good deed...
Copy !req
1768. hiding the Green Goblin alter ego.
Copy !req
1769. Harry sees Spider-Man and thinks
he's responsible for his father's death.
Copy !req
1770. Hey-
Copy !req
1771. I'm so sorry, Harry.
Copy !req
1772. I know what it's like
to lose a father.
Copy !req
1773. Now, was this shot in the fall?
Copy !req
1774. No. It was...
Copy !req
1775. I swear on my father's grave,
Spider-Man will pay.
Copy !req
1776. I'm gonna say it was...
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1777. early spring in New York.
Copy !req
1778. You're the only family I have.
Copy !req
1779. Maybe late winter.
Copy !req
1780. A little extra guilt for Peter Parker.
Copy !req
1781. And a little suggestion
of what may be to come...
Copy !req
1782. for Harry's character.
Copy !req
1783. No matter what I do...
Copy !req
1784. no matter how hard I try...
Copy !req
1785. the ones I love will always
be the ones who pay.
Copy !req
1786. So they're gonna live
happily ever after, right?
Copy !req
1787. Yes, finally. After...
Copy !req
1788. Have a big kiss and
they'll walk off hand in hand.
Copy !req
1789. As any big...
Copy !req
1790. superhero Hollywood movie
should be...
Copy !req
1791. there should
be a happy ending, right?
Copy !req
1792. Finally, after all this time.
Copy !req
1793. All these challenges...
Copy !req
1794. tragedy...
Copy !req
1795. Peter Parker gets
what he wants most.
Copy !req
1796. I kept thinking:
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1797. The true caring and love
of Mary Jane Watson.
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1798. Yeah, sorry. Not gonna happen.
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1799. For the first time in movie history...
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1800. I get to say no to a girl.
Copy !req
1801. Who makes me feel...
Copy !req
1802. like I'm more than I ever
thought I could be.
Copy !req
1803. That I'm just...
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1804. me.
Copy !req
1805. And that's okay.
Copy !req
1806. The truth is...
Copy !req
1807. This is a great arc for her character,
that she's really...
Copy !req
1808. grown up and settled into herself,
and learned what's important...
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1809. and set her priorities straight...
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1810. though she had to
go through a lot to get there.
Copy !req
1811. Peter is tortured.
Copy !req
1812. All I wanted was to tell her
how much I loved her.
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1813. Intoxicated.
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1814. You can't what?
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1815. Tell you...
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1816. everything.
I mean, there's so much to tell.
Copy !req
1817. One of those tough scenes,
there's so much wind...
Copy !req
1818. I had to loop the whole thing.
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1819. - Oh, really?
- Yeah.
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1820. That I will always be there
for you.
Copy !req
1821. I will always be there
to take care of you.
Copy !req
1822. I promise you that.
Copy !req
1823. I will always be your friend.
Copy !req
1824. Only a friend...
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1825. Peter Parker?
Copy !req
1826. That's all I have to give.
Copy !req
1827. People had really emotional
reactions to this.
Copy !req
1828. They'd get pissed off like,
"Why? What happened?
Copy !req
1829. I don't understand.
Why didn't they get together?"
Copy !req
1830. It's pretty emotionally mature...
Copy !req
1831. of Peter there, even though
it might be a little extreme.
Copy !req
1832. Well, that's as close
as he comes to... You know...
Copy !req
1833. it's still very real,
but it's very noble.
Copy !req
1834. - Yeah.
- Very self-sacrificing.
Copy !req
1835. "It is my curse."
Copy !req
1836. Who am I?
Copy !req
1837. I'm Spider-Man.
Copy !req
1838. Oh, you're Spider-Man?
Copy !req
1839. And she touched her lips there,
like maybe she...
Copy !req
1840. - Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- Maybe she knows something.
Copy !req
1841. I think we wanted to leave it
ambiguous, like...
Copy !req
1842. Something was...
Copy !req
1843. - We're not sure if she knew or not.
- Yeah.
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1844. This is one of the coolest...
Copy !req
1845. - ... sequences, I think. What a shot.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1846. All in all, I'm gonna say
it was pretty cool to play Spider-Man.
Copy !req
1847. - It was kind of a fun movie.
- It was fun.
Copy !req
1848. A lot of work, but a lot of fun.
Copy !req
1849. And seeing it again,
which I haven't in a little while...
Copy !req
1850. getting a little nostalgic
and looking forward...
Copy !req
1851. - ... to revving the engine back up...
- Yeah, yeah.
Copy !req
1852. next year. Going back to work.
Copy !req
1853. Back into training and...
Copy !req
1854. There's Lucy Lawless.
Punk-rock girl, Lucy Lawless.
Copy !req
1855. Oh, yeah.
Copy !req
1856. The stunt guys did such a great job.
Copy !req
1857. I mean, I was literally putting my life
in these guys' hands...
Copy !req
1858. because they do all the wire rigging
and I'd be hanging 100 feet in the air.
Copy !req
1859. And if they screwed up, you know,
I could be seriously injured or die.
Copy !req
1860. Yeah, it was nice to have confidence
in those guys too.
Copy !req
1861. Actually, for two days I was strung up
on one of those rigs...
Copy !req
1862. - ... just in the set there. Yeah, yeah.
- In the office with the Goblin, yeah.
Copy !req
1863. Well, there you have it.
Are you off back to New York?
Copy !req
1864. I am indeed.
Copy !req
1865. And maybe J. Jonah Jameson
will get...
Copy !req
1866. some New York exterior scenes
in the sequel so I can...
Copy !req
1867. That'd be nice. We should call Sam.
Copy !req
1868. ride my bike to work
instead of flying out to L.A.
Copy !req
1869. I would like to spend
some more time in Manhattan.
Copy !req
1870. Yeah, well let's talk
to Laura and Sam.
Copy !req
1871. - Perfect.
- See what we can figure out.
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1872. You know, now that
we're in a successful franchise...
Copy !req
1873. maybe we can yield some
of our weight around and...
Copy !req
1874. Well, thank you guys for
hearing us talk about our movie.
Copy !req
1875. Watching ourselves
and rambling on about ourselves.
Copy !req
1876. Thank you for indulging us
and I hope you enjoyed it.
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1877. And I'm gonna go try to make
another good movie for you.
Copy !req
1878. Right. Stay tuned for number two.
Signing off.
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