1. We got issue in America.
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getting out of business.
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able to practice their love
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across this country.
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any more debt out
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already have out there.
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50 million Americans
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and it hit a knot.
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of two of his fingers.
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much this is gonna cost.
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pay cash for this,
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not gonna get a car?
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doesn't have health coverage.
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gave him a choice.
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finger for $60,000
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finger for 12,000.
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feeling to just try
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romantic,
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price of 12 grand.
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finger now enjoys
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Oregon landfill.
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where the old man used
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about Rick either.
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50 million Americans
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they don't get sick.
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will die this year
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they're uninsured.
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250 million of you
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48. Those of you who are
living the American Dream.
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Larry and Donna Smith.
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they own in these two cars.
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Denver, Colorado
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- Hello.
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daughter's storage room.
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- It stays there.
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Heather talked about
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supposed to end up like this
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kids who all went
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University of Chicago.
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and then another one.
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had health insurance,
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deductibles soon added up
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could no longer afford
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me ten years ago
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us because of healthcare,
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"It's not possible."
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happen to people."
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- No.
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bankrupt.
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with their daughter.
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so you have a spot.
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Danny popped in
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welcome them to Denver.
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people like you, guys?
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a good question.
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pay a deductible
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like Kathy and I
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have enough money
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keep says too.
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not what we wanted
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can to make the change.
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that feels like inside
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to have to reach out
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year-old for help.
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for four, five, six,
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gonna be hard.
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feeling of you bring problems
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to do about that.
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coincidence,
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very same day they arrived.
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many jobs lately.
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telephone conversation.
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just fine, lovies.
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where Daddy's going.
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130. This I do early in the morning.
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do is I clean here.
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Frank Cardile
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on a beach somewhere.
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insured by Medicare,
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the cost of the drugs
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137. Being that I'm an employee here,
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139. So, that's why I gotta
keep working until I die.
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140. There is nothing
wrong with that.
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always spillages.
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of milk, tomato sauce,
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to clean that up.
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keys in my hand
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there to get the keys out.
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years, I can't find them,
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for her hip.
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"Frank, this is $213.
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159. I didn't take it.
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160. I backed off, I said,
"I gotta come back."
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161. What's in them?
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that they distribute?
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medication now,
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to take an aspirin.
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how this happened,
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forward into the back seat.
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was 45 mile an hour
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knocked her out cold.
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her out of the car
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a trip to the hospital.
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insurance company telling me
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was not gonna be paid for,
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when I was supposed
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consciousness in the car
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my cellphone off the street
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was in the ambulance?
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HealthNet insurance for Jason.
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of his height and weight.
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tall and 130 pounds.
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188. I applied for
healthcare through BlueCross
BlueShield
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189. and they told me that my
body mass index was too high.
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190. I'm 5'1 ", I weigh 175 pounds.
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the health insurance companies
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193. So, I posted a note
on the internet
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had any similar stories
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their insurance company.
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over 3,700 responses.
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199. their healthcare horror storie.
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200. Some of them decided not to
wait for me to get back to the.
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201. Like Doug Noe who took
matters into his own hands
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was nine months old
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she was going deaf.
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company, CIGNA,
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in only one of her ears.
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letter they sent,
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her to hear in two ears.
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is good for one ear,
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good for the second ear,
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child is just starting
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both sides of her head.
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of gathering information
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concerning CIGNA's
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its policy holders.
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in a film before?"
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knew it.
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on his voice mail
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worked because Annette
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second implant in July.
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work in the industry.
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"I work for an HMO."
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hundreds of letters
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healthcare industry.
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236. and they were fed up with it.
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237. "Health insurance
companies suck, flat suck. "
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Malke,
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keeping sick people away
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top insurance companies.
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241. I work in a call cente,
so people call in
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for insurance quotes.
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preexisting conditions,
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that will not be covered.
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these conditions,
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to get your health insurance.
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this list of conditions
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long list, a long list.
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time they're gonna be declined
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I had a couple
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that they were...
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this application
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was late for work.
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it's gonna be okay
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health insurance now."
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the end of application,
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both gonna get declined
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health conditions.
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they're gonna get
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of weeks telling them
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eligible for insurance."
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'cause I just really thought
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say anything to them.
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bitch on the phone to people,
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get to know them,
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about their lives,
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out and get done with it
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the stress of it.
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Becky being
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Americans are still able
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284. Every American
deserves affordable healthcare.
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happy insured customers.
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286. Maria has BlueShield and
Diane, Horizon BlueCross.
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Caroline has CIGNA.
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they're all fully covered.
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diagnosed with retroperitoneal
cancer.
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right temporal lobe.
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were insured,
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- carpet treatment at
the doctor's office.
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to see a neurologist.
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treat it was to remove it.
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for December 9.
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that you can take
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benefit from chemo.
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treatment,
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their insurance companies.
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whether or not
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preexisting condition.
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it's experimental.
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that life-threatening.
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her non life-threatening tumor.
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spread throughout her body.
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that Caroline needed chemo.
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the MRI that BlueShield
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refused to approve.
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that she had a brain tumor.
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she didn't have a tumor.
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sure I have a lawyer."
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for me what it is.
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for referral
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on document?
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attention to exhibit two.
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request for referral
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resonance imaging test
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attention to exhibit three.
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referral to a neurosurgeon.
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for me how you came
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signature
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denial letters.
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or a stamp?
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denial letter
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was stamped on it?
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are fundamentally the same.
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that are sent out...
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a good medical director
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save the company money.
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was a medical reviewer for
Humana.
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because she didn't like
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started
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a 10% denial.
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reports on a weekly basis
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the cases we reviewed,
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and the percent denied
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percentage denial rate.
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be another report
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other medical reviewers.
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highest percent of denials
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working for the HMO,
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people healthcare,
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had set the system up.
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referred to as a medical loss.
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the industry uses.
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money on somebody,
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or you make a decision
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you don't have to spend it,
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Harris.
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her her treatment.
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her operation.
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that in the distant past,
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a yeast infection.
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yeast infection cream,
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for health insurance
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serious ailments.
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was independent
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she could have done.
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they were gonna have
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minutes before hand
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the yeast infection,
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at her medical records,
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talked to her doctor.
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undisclosed yeast infection,
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put this behind her.
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changes their mind,
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taking the money back,
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that's all it was.
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insurance companies now.
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always gonna be looking
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406. What happened to helping
the person that's sick?
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Lee Einer.
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able to weed you out
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doctor said you needed
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paying for the operation,
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company's money back
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is find one slip-up
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you didn't know you had.
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like it's a murder case.
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unit dedicated
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your health history
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looking for anything
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you concealed something,
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cancel the policy
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that you can't pay them.
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on the application,
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with a preexisting denial,
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treatment for it.
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it's legal to have
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person preexisting condition.
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which would incline
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to have sought medical care,
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of which that symptom
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440. was a symptom is excluded.
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441. I know, it's
labyrinthine, isn't it?
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442. But that's how it works.
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443. They're supposed to be
fair and even-handed,
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444. but with an insurance company,
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445. it's their frigging money!
Copy !req
446. So, it's not unintentional,
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447. it's not a mistake,
it's not an oversight,
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448. you're not slipping
through the cracks.
Copy !req
449. Somebody made that crack
and swept you towards it.
Copy !req
450. And the intent is
to maximize profits.
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451. Looking back, I don't know
that I killed anybody.
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452. Did I do harm in people's lives?
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453. Yeah, hell, yeah.
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454. I haven't worked for
insurance companies
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455. for a long time
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456. and I don't think
that really serves
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457. to atone for my
participation in that mess.
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458. I am glad I'm out of it, though.
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459. Julie Pierce
was struggling
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460. to get care for
her husband Tracy
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461. who was suffering
from kidney cancer.
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462. Julie works in the
intensive care unit
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463. at St. Joseph's Medical Center
in Kansas City, Missouri,
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464. which provided her family
with health insurance.
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465. Every month, there
was a new drug
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466. that the doctor wanted to try.
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467. My insurance denied it.
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468. One letter might say,
"Not a medical necessity,"
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469. one letter might say,
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470. "It's not for this
particular type of cancer,"
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471. and they denied it.
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472. Then we came up with
the bone marrow.
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473. It has showed to stop it,
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474. sometimes to completely
get rid of it.
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475. Tracy's doctors
said that this treatment
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476. had been successfully tried
on many other patients.
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477. If one of Tracy's
brothers turned out
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478. to be a suitable donor,
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479. there were promising
bone marrow treatments
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480. for beating Tracy's cancer.
Copy !req
481. Two weeks later, the
bone marrow nurse at KU called
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482. me and she goes: "We've
got the results back.
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483. His youngest brother is
a perfect donor match."
Copy !req
484. We were ecstatic.
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485. I think that's the happiest
I had seen him in a while.
Copy !req
486. So, we submitted it
and they denied it.
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487. Said it was experimental.
Copy !req
488. So, I found out that there
is a board of trustees
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489. over our medical plan that
actually work at my hospital.
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490. And they are the
final decision-makers
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491. on what gets approved and
what doesn't get approved.
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492. Julie and her
husband
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493. and their son, Tracy
Junior demanded a meeting
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494. with the health plan's
board of trustees.
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495. The very people
who had the power
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496. to approve their claim.
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497. They told Julie that they were
sympathetic to her situation.
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498. I said, "Your sympathy
does me no good
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499. when I'm burying him next year."
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500. And I told them,
I said if I was...
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501. Bruce van Cleve was our CEO.
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502. I said, "I bet if it was
Bruce van Cleve's wife,
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503. it would get approved."
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504. "No, it's nothing like that,
it's nothing like that."
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505. I said, "Or maybe if
my husband was white."
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506. And I got up and
walked out of the room.
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507. When we got home, I found
him up in the bathroom.
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508. And I knocked on
the door and said,
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509. "What are you doing in there?"
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510. "Nothing."
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511. And I opened the door
because usually he'll say,
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512. "What do you think
I'm doing in here?"
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513. And he was sitting in
there and he was crying.
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514. And he said, "Why me?
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515. I'm a good person."
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516. And I said, "But we're
not done fighting this.
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517. We're strong, yeah."
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518. And then he said,
"You know," he goes,
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519. "I can see now that
I'm gonna die."
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520. He said that, "I can leave
everything in the world,
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521. but I don't wanna
leave you and Tracy."
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522. The doctor told me he
would die in three weeks.
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523. And on January 13th,
which was my birthday,
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524. he went to sleep.
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525. And he died five days
later, here at home.
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526. He was my best friend.
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527. He was my soul mate.
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528. He was my son's father.
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529. We were to grow old together.
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530. They took away
everything that matters.
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531. I wanna know why,
why my husband?
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532. Why wasn't he given
the chance to live?
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533. You preach these
vision and values
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534. that we care for the
sick, the dying, the poor,
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535. that we're a healthcare
that leaves no one behind.
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536. You left him behind.
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537. You didn't even
give him a start.
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538. It was as if he was nothing.
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539. And I want them to have
a conscience about it.
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540. And I don't think they do.
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541. I don't think it has fazed
them one bit, at all.
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542. There was one
person
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543. in the healthcare industry
who did have a conscience,
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544. Dr. Linda Peeno,
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545. A former medical
reviewer at Humana.
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546. My name is Linda Peeno.
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547. I am here today to make
a public confession.
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548. In the spring of
1987, as a physician,
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549. I denied a man a
necessary operation
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550. that would have saved his life
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551. and thus caused his death.
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552. No person and no group has
held me accountable for this,
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553. because, in fact,
what I did was I saved
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554. the company a half a
million dollars for this.
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555. And furthermore,
this particular act
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556. secured my reputation as
a good medical director
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557. and it ensured my
continued advancement
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558. in the healthcare field.
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559. I went from making a few
hundred dollars a week
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560. as a medical reviewer
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561. to an escalating
six-figure income
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562. as a physician executive.
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563. In all my work, I
had one primary duty
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564. and that was to use
my medical expertise
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565. for the financial benefit
of the organization
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566. for which I worked.
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567. And I was told repeatedly
that I was not denying care,
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568. I was simply denying payment.
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569. I know how managed care
maims and kills patients.
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570. So, I'm here to tell you about
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571. the dirty work of managed care.
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572. And I'm haunted by the
thousands of pieces of paper
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573. on which I have written
that deadly word, denied.
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574. Thank you.
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575. How did we get
to the point of doctors
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576. at health insurance companies
actually being responsible
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577. for the deaths of patients?
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578. Who invented this system?
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579. How did this all begin?
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580. Where did the HMO start?
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581. Thanks to the wonders of
magnetic tape, we know.
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582. I am proposing today
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583. a new national health strategy.
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584. The purpose of this
program is simply this,
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585. I want America to have the
finest healthcare in the world
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586. and I want every
American to be able
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587. to have that care
when he needs it.
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588. The plan
hatched between Nixon
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589. and Edgar Kaiser worked.
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590. In the ensuing years,
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591. patients were given
less and less care.
Copy !req
592. [Journalist #1] Bigger logjams
at the nearby hospital
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593. and less quality medical care.
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594. Been here about 18 hours,
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595. since 7:00 this morning.
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596. What looks cramped
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597. and unsightly can
also be dangerous.
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598. While health
insurance companies became
wealthy,
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599. the system was broken.
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600. 37 million
Americans are without protectin
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601. against catastrophic illness.
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602. [Journalist #2] The losers are
the poor
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603. who may now postpone
urgently needed healthcare
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604. until it's too late.
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605. This went on
for years,
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606. until this man rode into town.
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607. Bringing with him
his little lady.
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608. Smart
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609. Sexy.
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610. Some men couldn't handle it.
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611. Today I am
announcing the formation
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612. of the President's Task Force
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613. on National Health Reform,
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614. chaired by the First Lady,
Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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615. Hillary Rodham
Clinton decided
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616. to make healthcare for
everyone her top priority.
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617. Universal
coverage now.
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618. It will not depend upon where
you work, whether you work
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619. or whether you have a
preexisting condition.
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620. Healthcare that can
never be taken away.
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621. Some
Republicans complain
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622. Mrs. Clinton is
getting a free ride
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623. because she's the
president's wife.
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624. It's fairly risky
business, I believe
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625. what President Clinton did,
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626. to put his wife in charge
of some big policy program.
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627. And while I don't
share the chairman's joy
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628. at our holding hearings
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629. on a government-run
healthcare system,
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630. I do share his intention
to make the debate
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631. and the legislative process
as exciting as possible.
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632. I'm sure you
will do that, Mr. Armey.
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633. We'll do the best we can.
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634. You and Dr. Kevorkian, I think.
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635. I have been told about
your charm and wit,
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636. and let me say,
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637. reports on your
charm are overstated
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638. and reports on your
wit are understated.
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639. Thank you, thank you very much.
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640. She drove
Washington insane.
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641. Do you really want
the federal government
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642. to control your healthcare?
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643. You won't have
the choice of your own doctors.
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644. Less government
mandates.
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645. - Less government.
- More government
control.
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646. More government.
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647. And less control for
you and your family.
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648. When your mama
gets sick,
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649. she might talk to a bureaucrat
instead of a doctor.
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650. This is a total
mess and it's about to get
messier.
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651. Not this big
bureaucratic,
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652. socialistic plan that they have.
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653. Socialist
takeover...
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654. Socialized
medicine.
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655. What really amounts
to a giant social experiment.
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656. Socialized
medicine.
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657. Nothing put more fear in us
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658. than the thought of that.
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659. And the chief fear mongers
against socialized medicine
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660. have always been
the good doctors
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661. of the American
Medical Association.
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662. This would
put the government smack
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663. into your hospital.
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664. Defining services,
setting standards,
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665. establishing committees,
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666. calling for reports,
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667. deciding who gets
in and who gets out.
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668. After all, the
government has to treat
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669. everyone fair and
equal, don't you know?
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670. Take us all the
way down the road
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671. to a new system of
medicine for everybody.
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672. Yes, medicine
for everyone.
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673. The AMA didn't want that.
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674. And to drive the
point home further,
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675. they held thousands
of coffeeklatsches
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676. all over the country where
they invited their neighbors
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677. to come and listen to a record
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678. made by a well-known actor
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679. on the evils of
socialized medicine.
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680. My name is
Ronald Reagan.
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681. One of the traditional
methods of imposing
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682. statism or socialism
on a people has been
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683. by way of medicine.
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684. The doctor begins
to lose freedoms.
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685. It's like telling a lie
and one leads to another.
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686. A doctor decides he wants
to practice in one town
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687. and the government
has says to him,
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688. "You can't live in that town.
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689. They already have
enough doctors.
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690. You have to go someplace else."
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691. All of us can see what
happens once you establish
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692. the precedent that the
government can determine
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693. a man's working place
and his working methods.
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694. And behind it will come
other federal programs
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695. that will invade
every area of freedom
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696. as we have known
it in this country.
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697. Until one day, we
will awake to find
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698. that we have socialism.
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699. Yeah! Burn baby
burn!
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700. The White House
said today it's time
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701. to tone down the
rhetoric reacting
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702. to the burning an effigy
of Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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703. The times may
have changed,
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704. but the scare tactics hadn't.
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705. The healthcare industries spent
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706. over a hundred million dollars
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707. to defeat Hillary's
healthcare plan.
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708. And they succeeded.
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709. And I want now to introduce
to you the president,
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710. because he loves
the Easter egg roll.
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711. For the next
seven years in the White House,
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712. she wasn't allowed
to bring it up again.
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713. Is anybody here older than two?
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714. A decade and a
half went by
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715. and still America had no
universal health plan.
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716. The United States
slipped to number 37
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717. in healthcare around the world.
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718. Just slightly ahead
of Slovenia.
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719. But that's understandable,
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720. because Congress was
busy with other matters.
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721. Mr. Speaker, today
I rise to offer congratulations
Copy !req
722. to the confectioners at
Just Born Incorporated,
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723. as they celebrate
the 50th anniversary
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724. of one of their most recognized
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725. and celebrated products,
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726. not to mention my
daughter's favorite,
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727. Marshmallow Peeps.
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728. And thus,
the healthcare industry
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729. went unchecked into
the early 21st century.
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730. Humana more
than doubles its fourth quarter
profit,
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731. lifts its earnings outlook
for the year as well.
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732. [Stock Analyst #2] United Health
has tripled its share prices.
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733. Making obscene
profits.
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734. Had to beat their estimates.
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735. Better than
expected earnings.
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736. [News Anchor #2] There's a lot
of wealthy shareholders
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737. out there right now,
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738. are they willing to share
some of that wealth?
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739. Turning their
CEOs into billionaires.
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740. And skirting the law
whenever they wanted.
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741. But their biggest accomplishmet
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742. was buying our United
States Congress.
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743. This is Washington
at work.
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744. Lobbying has become so brazen,
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745. the money is being collected...
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746. With four times as many
healthcare lobbyists
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747. than there are
members of Congress.
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748. They even managed
to buy off old foes.
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749. For her silence,
Hillary was rewarded.
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750. And she became the
second largest recipient
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751. in the Senate of healthcare
industry contributions.
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752. We've given the
entire healthcare system
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753. over to the insurance industry.
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754. And they have total control.
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755. Well,
not total control.
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756. The drug companies like to buy
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757. their members of Congress too.
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758. Here's what it costs
to buy these men
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759. and this woman.
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760. This guy and this
guy and him too.
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761. Ladies and
gentlemen,
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762. the President of
the United States.
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763. And the biggest
check was saved for last.
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764. Why did they hand
out all this cash?
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765. They wanted a bill passed,
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766. a bill to help seniors
with their prescriptions.
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767. Let there be
no mistake about it.
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768. Republicans love their mothers
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769. and their fathers and
their grandparents
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770. as much as anybody
else on this hill
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771. and we're gonna take care
of them in this country.
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772. Of course,
it was really a bill
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773. to hand over 800 billion
of our tax dollars
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774. to the drug and health
insurance industry.
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775. By letting the drug
companies charge
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776. whatever they wanted.
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777. And making the private
health insurance
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778. companies the middleman.
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779. Everybody was going
to get their cut.
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780. And the man they appointed
to get the job done
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781. was congressman Billy Tauzin.
Copy !req
782. He was the right man for
the job
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783. because he had a secret weapon.
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784. There's no one in
this house loves their mother
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785. more than I love my mother.
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786. I challenge you on that, sir.
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787. Nobody in this body that
loves their mother any more
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788. or any less than any one of us.
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789. I love that woman.
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790. Do you think for a second
you love your moms and dads
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791. any more than we love ours?
Copy !req
792. Do you think Republicans and
Democrats who will vote...
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793. Do you really believe
that, Mr. Stoddard?
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794. Yes!
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795. God bless you.
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796. Oh, they all
loved their mothers.
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797. It's just that they didn't
love our mothers as much.
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798. Now I'm honored
and pleased to sign
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799. this historic piece
of legislation,
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800. the Medicare Prescription
Drug Improvement
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801. and Modernization Act of 2003.
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802. What they didn't
tell us was
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803. that the elderly could
end up paying more
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804. for their prescriptions
than they did before.
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805. Over two thirds
of senior citizens
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806. could still pay
over $2,000 a year.
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807. And when it was all over,
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808. 14 congressional aids
who worked on the bill
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809. quit their jobs on the Hill
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810. and went to work for
the healthcare industry.
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811. As did one congressman.
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812. Billy Tauzin left Congress
to become the CEO of PhRMA,
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813. the drug industry lobby
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814. for a salary of
$2 million a year.
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815. Oh, It was a happy
day in Washington.
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816. And many Americans knew
they were never going
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817. to see universal healthcare.
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818. And that's why some
of them decided
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819. to look elsewhere for help.
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820. We're driving across
the Detroit river.
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821. Back there is the
Renaissance Center,
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822. you can see the
Renaissance Center,
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823. General Motors' headquarters,
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824. downtown Detroit, the skyline.
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825. You get a really nice view
from driving over the bridge.
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826. This is
Adrian Campbell.
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827. A single mother,
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828. who at the age of 22
came down with cancer.
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829. I got cervical cancer
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830. and I was denied through
the insurance company.
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831. They said, "We're
not paying for it
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832. because you're 22
and you don't have...
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833. You shouldn't be
having cervical cancer.
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834. You're too young."
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835. Forced into
debt, but now cancer free.
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836. Adrian was fed up
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837. with the American
healthcare system.
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838. She had a new plan.
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839. I have everything reay
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840. before I even hit the border.
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841. I got my passports ready,
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842. I got my money out.
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843. It's $3.25 to get
across one way.
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844. And I got everything
just sitting up here
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845. on my visor just ready to go.
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846. Aurora, be very quiet.
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847. - Citizenships?
- US.
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848. Where do you live?
I live in Michigan.
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849. - That's not on, right?
- No.
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850. She may
live in Michigan,
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851. but ten blocks
across the border,
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852. Adrian becomes a Canadian.
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853. How long have you
been living here?
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854. Three months?
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855. A couple.
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856. But I haven't applied
for the OHIP card yet
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857. 'cause I still have mine.
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858. It takes ten minutes.
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859. That's fine, I don't mind.
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860. Okay, thank you.
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861. I put down Kyle's
address at the clinic
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862. and when they ask what
my relationship is,
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863. I put down that I was
his common-law partner.
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864. I don't like to lie
and I don't like liars.
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865. It's little white
lies, but it's...
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866. I'm saving the money.
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867. You don't have to
bring a checkbook
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868. when you go to
the hospital here.
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869. It's provided to us.
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870. It's something you don't
have to worry about,
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871. you don't have to go
out of your way to get.
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872. Stress free.
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873. They're calling the cops.
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874. The presence of
our camera crew
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875. had alerted the clinic
that something was up.
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876. And I don't think I'm
gonna get seen now.
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877. So, I have another idea.
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878. I'm gonna go down
to the other clinic.
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879. There is a clinic down
one that we passed.
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880. The police showed up over there.
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881. Look.
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882. Yes, what
Adrian was doing was illegal.
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883. But we're Americans.
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884. We go into other
countries when we need to.
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885. It's tricky, but it's allowed.
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886. It's kind of
frustrating having...
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887. Just get married and
that'd solve everything,
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888. she'd be covered automatically.
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889. Americans marry Canadians
just for the healthcare!
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890. I'm being used.
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891. Sounds like a
good idea.
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892. See if it works.
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893. Start something, start a trend.
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894. In Canada they
give everybody free healthcare,
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895. doesn't it work up there?
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896. Well, no,
unfortunately it doesn't.
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897. We wait months
to get treatment
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898. you can get in a week
or a few days here.
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899. In Canada you have
to wait 9 to 10 months
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900. for bypass surgery.
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901. [Newscaster #2] Many
Canadians believe
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902. it's the healthcare system
itself that's truly sick.
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903. [Newscaster #3] They pay
their doctors less.
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904. [Newscaster #4] A surgeon can
only do a certain number
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905. of operations each year.
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906. With only so many expensive
new pieces of equipment.
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907. It's easier for
your cat or dog
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908. to receive an MRI
here in America.
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909. You die of
cancer waiting for chemo
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910. 'cause all of Ottawa
has one chemo machine.
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911. And if you
think socialized medicine is a
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912. good idea, ask a Canadian.
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913. So, I thought
who better to ask
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914. than my Canadian
relatives, Bob and Estelle.
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915. But they wouldn't cross
the border into America.
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916. They wanted me to meet
them at Sears in Canada.
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917. What are you guys doing here?
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918. [Estelle÷} We're buying
insurance,
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919. we're going over to the states.
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920. We're going to the
states to see you.
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921. That's just
across the river.
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922. - Yeah.
- Yeah.
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923. You wouldn't go
over to see us over in Michigan
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924. for a couple of hours
without insurance?
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925. No, we wouldn't.
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926. We're just adamant about it.
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927. We would not do it.
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928. If somebody punches us in
the mouth or something,
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929. something like that...
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930. You don't
wanna get caught in the
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931. - American health system thing?
- That's right.
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932. We have nothing against
Americans or America
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933. or anything like that at all.
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934. We're a nice
and simple people.
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935. Not very simple, but
certainly very nice.
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936. I decided to
explore
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937. their anti-American
views further
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938. over some fine
Canadian cuisine.
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939. We have a friend
who went to Hawaii
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940. and he sustained a head
injury while he was there.
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941. And before he was well
enough to come home,
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942. he had chalked up a
bill of over $600,000.
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943. So, what middle-class
Canadian could absorb that?
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944. I guess I feel
bad that you would have
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945. to worry about
something like that.
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946. We're not criticizing
your country,
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947. we're just giving you the facts,
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948. that we could not afford
to be without insurance.
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949. Even for a day?
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950. Even for a day.
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951. To prove their
point even further,
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952. they sent me over to
a local golf course
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953. to talk to Larry Godfrey
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954. who had a golfing accident
while on vacation in Florida.
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955. I could hear a noise
and feel a pain
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956. and the tendon snapped
off this bone here
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957. that holds the bicep in place.
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958. So, this bicep muscle was
released like on an elastic
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959. and it ended up
here on my chest.
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960. The muscle came up
right on your arm
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961. and ended up in your chest?
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962. Ended up right here.
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963. Like all good
golfers.
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964. Larry finished his round before
seeking medical attention.
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965. That's when he got the bad new.
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966. I wasn't too worried
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967. because I had out-of-
country insurance,
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968. but when he told me it was
23 or 24,000, then I...
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969. 24,000?
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970. Dollars, yes.
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971. So, if you'd stayed
in the United States,
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972. this would have
cost you $ 24,000?
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973. $24,000, yes.
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974. Instead, you went back to Canada
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975. and Canada paid
your total expenses?
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976. Everything.
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977. - Paid for the operation.
- Yes.
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978. - And it cost you?
- Nothing.
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979. - Zero.
- Zero.
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980. Zero.
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981. I'm wondering why you expect
your fellow Canadians,
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982. who don't have your problem,
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983. why should they, through
their tax dollars,
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984. have to pay for a
problem you have?
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985. Because we would do
the same for them.
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986. It's just the way
it's always been
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987. and it's the way we
hope it'll always be.
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988. Right, but if you just had
to pay for your problem
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989. and don't pay for
everybody else's problem,
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990. just take care of yourself?
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991. Well, there are a lot of people
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992. who aren't in a position
to be able to do that.
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993. And somebody has
to look after them.
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994. Are you a member of the
Socialist Party here?
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995. No, no.
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996. Green Party?
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997. No.
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998. Well, actually, I'm a member
of the Conservative Party.
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999. Is that bad?
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1000. Well, it's just a
little confusing.
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1001. Well, it shouldn't be.
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1002. I think that where medical
matters are concerned,
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1003. it wouldn't matter in Canada
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1004. what party you were
affiliated with, if any.
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1005. But, to us, as we look
across the river here,
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1006. why don't you think
we don't believe that?
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1007. What's wrong on
this issue with us?
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1008. I guess the powers that
be don't share our beliefs
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1009. that healthcare ought
to be universal.
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1010. Canadians didn't until we met up
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1011. with a guy named Tommy Douglas,
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1012. who pretty much changed
everyone's mind.
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1013. One guy?
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1014. One guy, yeah.
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1015. One guy did it.
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1016. Can he come over and visit us?
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1017. He's dead, unfortunately.
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1018. In fact, he's just most
recently been revered
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1019. as Canada's singular
most important person.
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1020. We think so much of...
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1021. You mean in your history?
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1022. - In our history.
- In your whole history?
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1023. In our whole history
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1024. More than your first
prime minister?
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1025. Absolutely, yeah.
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1026. Even more than Wayne Gretzky.
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1027. - No way!
- Absolutely.
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1028. More than Celine Dion?
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1029. Great singer, more
than Celine, yeah.
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1030. More than Rocky and Bullwinkle?
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1031. Maybe.
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1032. As the blade went
through,
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1033. it caught the
glove I was wearing
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1034. and it sliced through the
entire group of fingers
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1035. and completely taking them off.
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1036. And I realized that I
needed help immediately.
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1037. Well,
obviously, putting on amputated
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1038. fingers or arms or limbs is one
of the more dramatic things
Copy !req
1039. that we can do.
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1040. If you're looking
at five fingers,
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1041. you're potentially looking
at a 24-hour operation.
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1042. There actually
was four surgeons,
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1043. as well as all the nurses,
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1044. two different
anesthetists to carry out
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1045. an operation of that magnitude.
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1046. When somebody like
Brad came in,
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1047. we didn't have to
worry about whether
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1048. or not he could afford it.
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1049. He needed help, he needed
a great deal of help
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1050. and we could just
concentrate on finding
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1051. the best way to
bring him through it.
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1052. I met this
American,
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1053. he'd cut off the ends of two
of his fingers with a saw.
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1054. So, when he arrived
at the hospital,
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1055. they told him one finger's
gonna cost around $60,000
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1056. and the other one
was gonna be $12,000.
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1057. He had to choose which
finger he could afford.
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1058. Down, bend the long finger down.
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1059. We've never told someone
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1060. that they couldn't
put a finger back on
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1061. because the system
wouldn't allow it.
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1062. I'm very glad I
work within a system
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1063. that allows me the freedom
to look after people
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1064. and not have to make
choices like that.
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1065. It seems nothig
we were told
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1066. about the Canadian
system was true.
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1067. Maybe I was just in
the wrong part of town.
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1068. So, I went across the city
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1069. to a crowded hospital
waiting room.
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1070. How long did you have to
wait here to get help?
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1071. - 20 minutes.
- 20 minutes.
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1072. 45 minutes.
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1073. I got helped right away.
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1074. You can see how crowded this is.
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1075. They really do an amazing job.
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1076. Did you have to
get anyone's permission
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1077. to come to this hospital?
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1078. No.
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1079. - No.
- No.
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1080. We can go anywhere we want.
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1081. You don't have
to get it pre-approved
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1082. by your insurance company?
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1083. Oh, heavens, no.
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1084. Can you choose
your own doctor?
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1085. Oh, yes.
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1086. What's your
deductible?
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1087. Nothing.
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1088. I don't think we have any.
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1089. I don't know.
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1090. I don't think there's
any as far as I know.
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1091. So, what did
this cost?
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1092. Nothing.
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1093. We know in America people
pay for their healthcare,
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1094. but I guess we don't
understand that concept,
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1095. 'cause we don't have
to deal with that.
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1096. And we're dealing
with Parkinson's,
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1097. stroke, heart attack.
Copy !req
1098. We're very, very
lucky, really we are.
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1099. We complain, people
complain about everything.
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1100. Right.
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1101. Right, you're
Canadian.
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1102. But on the whole, it's really a
fabulous system
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1103. for making sure
that the least of us
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1104. and the best of us
are taken care of.
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1105. It turns out
that Canadians
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1106. live three years
longer than we do.
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1107. That's not hard to believe
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1108. when you meet fellow
Americans like Erik.
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1109. Erik Turnbow
of Olympia, Washington
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1110. saved up his whole life
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1111. so that he could visit the famd
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1112. Abbey Road crosswalk in London.
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1113. But it wasn't enough for
Erik to just walk across
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1114. the road like The Beatles did.
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1115. He had to do it his
own special way.
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1116. Here's Erik,
about to walk
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1117. on his hands across Abbey Road.
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1118. Ready?
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1119. Try it again.
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1120. - Are you in pain?
- Yeah.
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1121. The
British hospital
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1122. didn't charge Erik
anything for his stay.
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1123. And only about ten bucks
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1124. for all the way-cool
drugs they gave him.
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1125. You're
all slung up.
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1126. I'm gonna be OK.
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1127. I decided to go
to Great Britain
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1128. to find out how a hospital
stay could be free
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1129. and drugs could cost only $10.
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1130. If I come in here and
I have a prescription
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1131. and it requires 30
pills, how much is that?
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1132. It's £6.65, that's
the standard charge.
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1133. £6.65?
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1134. So, that's what?
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1135. $10 or so?
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1136. Yes.
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1137. What if I needed 60
pills, how much is it?
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1138. Same charge.
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1139. 120 pills?
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1140. £6.65 still.
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1141. It doesn't matter
how many pills?
Copy !req
1142. No.
Copy !req
1143. What if it's an HIV
drug or a cancer drug?
Copy !req
1144. It's still £6.65.
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1145. If they are under 16 or over 60,
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1146. they're automatically exempt.
Copy !req
1147. So, only a working adult
Copy !req
1148. who earns enough
money pays the £6.65?
Copy !req
1149. And everybody else gets
the medication for free?
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1150. That's right.
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1151. No money being exchanged here?
Copy !req
1152. No, nothing.
Copy !req
1153. There's no money
being exchanged?
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1154. I'm over 60, we don't pay.
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1155. What's the purpose
of the cash register?
Copy !req
1156. I'm just wondering
where's the bread
Copy !req
1157. and the milk and
the candy in here?
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1158. I can't pick up any
laundry detergent here?
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1159. No, I haven't been trained
for that many years
Copy !req
1160. to be selling detergents, so no.
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1161. I next went to
a state-run hospital,
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1162. operated by the
National Health Service.
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1163. I'm due in seven weeks
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1164. and I get six months off, paid.
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1165. And then I can have six
months off unpaid as well,
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1166. so I'm actually taking a year.
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1167. Well, that
sounds like a luxury where I'm
from.
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1168. Oh, really, it's not
like that in the US?
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1169. No, not at all, no?
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1170. So, what do you
pay for a stay here?
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1171. No one pays.
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1172. They were asking
how do people pay
Copy !req
1173. and I said, "Well, there isn't,
Copy !req
1174. - You don't, you just leave."
- It's national insurance.
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1175. There's no bill at the
end of it, as it were.
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1176. Even with
insurance there's bound
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1177. to be a bill somewhere.
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1178. So, where's the
billing department?
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1179. There isn't a
billing department.
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1180. No, there's no such
thing as billing...
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1181. What did they
charge for that baby?
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1182. Sorry?
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1183. You gotta pay before
you can get out?
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1184. - No.
- No, no,
Copy !req
1185. - everything is on NHS.
- This is NHS.
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1186. - No, you don't.
- It's not America.
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1187. Maybe I'd
have better luck
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1188. in the part of the hospital
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1189. where things can get
seriously expensive.
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1190. This guy broke his ankle.
Copy !req
1191. How much will this cost him?
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1192. [X-Ray Tech.] Sorry?
Copy !req
1193. The emergency
room visit.
Copy !req
1194. He'll have some huge bill
when he's done, right?
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1195. [X-Rat Tech.] Here, NHS,
everything is free.
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1196. I'm asking about
hospital charges
Copy !req
1197. and you're laughing at me.
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1198. Because I was never
asked this question
Copy !req
1199. in the emergency
department, that's why.
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1200. I was starting to fall
Copy !req
1201. for this everything is free bit
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1202. and then I discovered this.
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1203. So, this is where people
come to pay their bill
Copy !req
1204. when they're done
staying in the hospital?
Copy !req
1205. No, this is the
NHS hospital,
Copy !req
1206. so you don't pay the bill.
Copy !req
1207. You get to just go home?
Copy !req
1208. Why does it say cashier here
Copy !req
1209. if people don't
have to pay a bill?
Copy !req
1210. What we have is a litte
man
Copy !req
1211. who stands behind a counter
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1212. and he gives people money
Copy !req
1213. if they've had to
pay for transport.
Copy !req
1214. Those who
have reduced means
Copy !req
1215. get their travel
expenses reimbursed.
Copy !req
1216. Thank you.
Copy !req
1217. So, in British
hospitals,
Copy !req
1218. instead of money going
into the cashier's window,
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1219. money comes out.
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1220. The criteria for letting you out
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1221. of the hospital are not...
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1222. If you've paid your
bill, the criteria are,
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1223. are you fit to go and are
you going somewhere safe?
Copy !req
1224. Clearly, I was
just the butt of a joke here.
Copy !req
1225. What I needed was a good
old-fashioned American
Copy !req
1226. who would have
some understanding.
Copy !req
1227. When I first
came to London in 1992.
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1228. And we just ended up staying
Copy !req
1229. and we had three children here.
Copy !req
1230. Well, I had them all on the NHS,
Copy !req
1231. which is the British
National Health Service.
Copy !req
1232. I think like a lot of Americans,
Copy !req
1233. assumed that a
socialized medicine
Copy !req
1234. was just bottom of
the rung treatment,
Copy !req
1235. that's the only possible way
would be dingy and horrible
Copy !req
1236. and it would be like
the Soviet Union.
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1237. That's kind of how...
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1238. And it's terrible that
that's what I thought.
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1239. That's what I
thought too.
Copy !req
1240. After having a baby,
Copy !req
1241. it's right back to
the wheat fields.
Copy !req
1242. And then it occurred to me
that back home in America,
Copy !req
1243. we've socialized
a lot of things.
Copy !req
1244. I kind of like having
a police department
Copy !req
1245. and fire department
and the library.
Copy !req
1246. And I got to wondering,
Copy !req
1247. why don't we have more of
these free socialized things,
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1248. like healthcare?
Copy !req
1249. When did this whole idea
that every British citizen
Copy !req
1250. should have a right
to healthcare?
Copy !req
1251. Well, if you go
back, it all began with
democracy.
Copy !req
1252. Before we had the vote,
Copy !req
1253. all the power was in the
hands of rich people.
Copy !req
1254. If you had money, you could
get healthcare, education,
Copy !req
1255. look after yourself
when you were old.
Copy !req
1256. And what democracy did was
to give the poor the vote.
Copy !req
1257. And it moved power
from the marketplace
Copy !req
1258. to the polling station,
Copy !req
1259. from the wallet to the ballot.
Copy !req
1260. And what people said
was very simple.
Copy !req
1261. They said, "In the 1930s,
we had mass unemployment.
Copy !req
1262. But we don't have
unemployment during the war.
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1263. If you can have full
employment by killing Germans,
Copy !req
1264. why can't we have
full employment
Copy !req
1265. by building hospitals,
building schools,
Copy !req
1266. recruiting nurses,
recruiting teachers?"
Copy !req
1267. If you can find
money to kill people,
Copy !req
1268. you can find money
to help people.
Copy !req
1269. Right.
Copy !req
1270. This leaflet that was issued,
Copy !req
1271. very, very straightforward.
Copy !req
1272. - What year was this?
- This was 1948.
Copy !req
1273. "Your new National
Health Service
Copy !req
1274. begins on the 5th of July."
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1275. What is it?
Copy !req
1276. How do you get it?
Copy !req
1277. "It will provide you
with all medical,
Copy !req
1278. dental and nursing care.
Copy !req
1279. Everyone, rich or poor,
man, woman or child,
Copy !req
1280. can use it or any part of it.
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1281. There are no charges,
Copy !req
1282. except for a few special items.
Copy !req
1283. There is no insurance
qualifications,
Copy !req
1284. but it is not a charity.
Copy !req
1285. You are paying for it
mainly as taxpayers
Copy !req
1286. and it will relieve
your money worries
Copy !req
1287. in times of illness."
Copy !req
1288. Now, somehow, the few words
sum the whole thing up.
Copy !req
1289. I was amazed
when he said
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1290. this all started in 1948.
Copy !req
1291. The British had just
come out of a devastating
Copy !req
1292. experience through
World War II.
Copy !req
1293. The country was destroyed
and nearly bankrupt.
Copy !req
1294. They had nothing.
Copy !req
1295. In just one eight-month period,
Copy !req
1296. over 42,000 civilians
lost their lives.
Copy !req
1297. What we went through
in two hours on 911,
Copy !req
1298. they went through
nearly every single day.
Copy !req
1299. Remember how we
all felt after 911?
Copy !req
1300. All of us pulling together?
Copy !req
1301. I guess that's how they felt.
Copy !req
1302. And the first way
that they decided
Copy !req
1303. to pull together after the war
Copy !req
1304. was to provide free
medical care for everyone.
Copy !req
1305. Even Mrs. Thatcher
said,
Copy !req
1306. "The National Health Service
is safe in our hands."
Copy !req
1307. It's as non-controversial
as votes for women.
Copy !req
1308. Nobody could come along and sa,
Copy !req
1309. "Why should women
have the vote?"
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1310. Now because people
wouldn't have it
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1311. and they wouldn't in Britain.
Copy !req
1312. They wouldn't accept
the deterioration
Copy !req
1313. or destruction of the
National Health Service.
Copy !req
1314. If Thatcher or
Blair said,
Copy !req
1315. "I'm going to dismantle
national healthcare..."
Copy !req
1316. There would have
been a revolution.
Copy !req
1317. A report from
the American Medical Associatin
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1318. into the health of
55 to 64 year-olds,
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1319. says Brits are far
healthier than Americans.
Copy !req
1320. For every
illness that we looked at,
Copy !req
1321. Americans had more
of it than English.
Copy !req
1322. Cancer, heart
disease, hypertension,
Copy !req
1323. strokes, lung disease,
Copy !req
1324. all significantly
higher for Americans.
Copy !req
1325. Even the poorest
people in England
Copy !req
1326. with all the
environmental factors
Copy !req
1327. that give them the worst
health in the country
Copy !req
1328. can expect to live longer
Copy !req
1329. than the wealthiest
people in America.
Copy !req
1330. I was
wondering, though,
Copy !req
1331. what's it like for the
doctors here in Britain
Copy !req
1332. who have to live under
this kind of state control?
Copy !req
1333. And you're a family doctor?
Copy !req
1334. Yeah, I
suppose we'd call them GPs
Copy !req
1335. or general practitioners here.
Copy !req
1336. Right, so you have
a family practice?
Copy !req
1337. Yeah, it's an NHS practice.
Copy !req
1338. We have nine doctors
within that practice.
Copy !req
1339. You're paid for
by the government?
Copy !req
1340. Paid for by the government.
Copy !req
1341. So, you work
Copy !req
1342. for the government?
Oh, yeah.
Copy !req
1343. You're a government-paid doctor.
Copy !req
1344. Absolutely.
A patient comes to you,
Copy !req
1345. before you treat them,
do you have to call
Copy !req
1346. the government insurance
company before you treat them?
Copy !req
1347. No, I don't deal
with money at all
Copy !req
1348. on an everyday basis.
Copy !req
1349. Have you ever had to say no
Copy !req
1350. to someone who was
sick and needed help?
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1351. No, never.
Copy !req
1352. Have you heard of anyone
being in the hospital
Copy !req
1353. and being removed
Copy !req
1354. because they couldn't
pay their bill?
Copy !req
1355. No, never.
Copy !req
1356. And I wouldn't wanna
work in that system.
Copy !req
1357. So, working for the government,
Copy !req
1358. you probably have to
use public transport?
Copy !req
1359. No, I have a car that I use
Copy !req
1360. and I drive to work.
- An old beater?
Copy !req
1361. You live in kinda a
rough part of town?
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1362. I live in a terrific
part of town.
Copy !req
1363. It's called Greenwich.
Copy !req
1364. It's a lovely house.
Copy !req
1365. It's a three-story house.
Copy !req
1366. How many other families
have to live with you?
Copy !req
1367. There's four bedrooms.
Copy !req
1368. My wife and my son.
Copy !req
1369. It's just the three of us ther.
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1370. How much did you pay for that?
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1371. £550,000.
Copy !req
1372. So, a million dollars?
Copy !req
1373. Yeah.
Copy !req
1374. You're a government-paid doctor
Copy !req
1375. on a national health
insurance healthcare plan here
Copy !req
1376. and you live in a
million-dollar home?
Copy !req
1377. Yes.
Copy !req
1378. I think probably my friends
think we do quite well.
Copy !req
1379. Really, how well do you do?
Copy !req
1380. I earn around 85,000,
including pension.
Copy !req
1381. - £85,000?
- £85,000 a year.
Copy !req
1382. And that includes pension
Copy !req
1383. that they would pay in to me.
Copy !req
1384. They probably earn just over
£100,000 within my practice.
Copy !req
1385. £100,000, so that's
almost $200,000?
Copy !req
1386. Yes, absolutely.
Copy !req
1387. The money that we earn,
Copy !req
1388. we get paid by what we do.
Copy !req
1389. So, the better we
do for our patients,
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1390. then the more we get paid.
Copy !req
1391. What do you mean?
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1392. There's a new system.
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1393. And in that new system,
if the most number
Copy !req
1394. of your patients have
low blood pressures
Copy !req
1395. or you get most of your
patients to stop smoking
Copy !req
1396. or you get your
patients to have things
Copy !req
1397. like mental health
reviews if they're unwell
Copy !req
1398. or low cholesterol's,
then you get paid more.
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1399. This year, if you
get more people
Copy !req
1400. that are your patients
to stop smoking,
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1401. you'll get more money,
Copy !req
1402. you'll earn more?
Copy !req
1403. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Copy !req
1404. So, doctors in America
do not necessarily have
Copy !req
1405. to fear having a
universal healthcare?
Copy !req
1406. No, I think if you want to have
Copy !req
1407. two or three million
dollar homes
Copy !req
1408. and four or five nice cars
Copy !req
1409. and six or seven
nice televisions,
Copy !req
1410. then maybe, yeah, you
need to practice somewhere
Copy !req
1411. where you can earn that.
Copy !req
1412. But I think we live
comfortably here.
Copy !req
1413. London is an expensive city,
Copy !req
1414. but I think we live
very comfortably.
Copy !req
1415. And you're getting by okay
on the million-dollar home,
Copy !req
1416. the Audi and the flat-screen TV?
Copy !req
1417. Yeah, we're coping with those.
Copy !req
1418. I think democracy is
the most revolutionary thing
Copy !req
1419. in the world.
Copy !req
1420. Far more revolutionary
than socialist ideas
Copy !req
1421. or anybody else's idea.
Copy !req
1422. Because if you have power,
Copy !req
1423. you use it to meet the needs
of you and your community.
Copy !req
1424. And this idea of choice
which capital talks about,
Copy !req
1425. "You've got to have a choice."
Copy !req
1426. Choice depends on the
freedom to choose.
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1427. And if you're
shackled with debt,
Copy !req
1428. you don't have a
freedom to choose.
Copy !req
1429. It seems that it
benefits the system
Copy !req
1430. if the average person
is shackled with debt.
Copy !req
1431. People in debt become hopeless
Copy !req
1432. and hopeless people don't vote.
Copy !req
1433. They will say,
everyone should vote,
Copy !req
1434. but I think if the
poor in Britain
Copy !req
1435. or the United States turned out
Copy !req
1436. and voted for people who
represented their interests,
Copy !req
1437. it would be a real
democratic revolution.
Copy !req
1438. So, they don't
want it to happen.
Copy !req
1439. So, keeping people
hopeless and pessimistic.
Copy !req
1440. See, I think there are two ways
Copy !req
1441. in which people are controlled.
Copy !req
1442. First of all, frighten people
Copy !req
1443. and secondly, demoralize them.
Copy !req
1444. An educated, healthy
and confident nation
Copy !req
1445. is harder to govern.
Copy !req
1446. And I think there's an element
Copy !req
1447. in the thinking of some people,
Copy !req
1448. "We don't want people
to be educated,
Copy !req
1449. healthy and confident,
Copy !req
1450. because they would
get out of control."
Copy !req
1451. The top 1% of the
world's population
Copy !req
1452. own 80% of the world's wealth.
Copy !req
1453. It's incredible that
people put up with it,
Copy !req
1454. but they're poor,
Copy !req
1455. they're demoralized,
they're frightened.
Copy !req
1456. And therefore, they think
perhaps the safest thing
Copy !req
1457. to do is to take orders
and hope for the best.
Copy !req
1458. And hope for te
best is what we do
Copy !req
1459. right from the
moment we're born.
Copy !req
1460. We've got the worst
infant mortality rate
Copy !req
1461. in the western world.
Copy !req
1462. A baby born in El Salvador has
a better chance of surviving
Copy !req
1463. than a baby born in Detroit.
Copy !req
1464. But it gets better
when we go to school.
Copy !req
1465. Classrooms with
40 students,
Copy !req
1466. schools with no science labs.
Copy !req
1467. No wonder the
majority of our young adults
Copy !req
1468. can't find Britain on a map.
Copy !req
1469. But that's okay,
there's always college
Copy !req
1470. and by the time we graduate,
Copy !req
1471. our ass is so in hock,
Copy !req
1472. we're deep in debt before
we even have our first job.
Copy !req
1473. I'm at about...
Copy !req
1474. We'll say about $35,000 in debt.
Copy !req
1475. And that's for my
third year in college.
Copy !req
1476. That way, you'l
be the kind of employee
Copy !req
1477. they're looking for.
Copy !req
1478. One who needs this job.
Copy !req
1479. 3,904, 3,905.
Copy !req
1480. And what employer wouldn't want
Copy !req
1481. to employ someone thousands
of dollars in debt
Copy !req
1482. because they won't
cause any trouble?
Copy !req
1483. In addition to having to
pay off your college debt,
Copy !req
1484. you need a job with
health insurance.
Copy !req
1485. It would be horrible to lose
that kind of job, wouldn't it?
Copy !req
1486. You can always quit, you
know.
Copy !req
1487. There's no law that says
you have to work here.
Copy !req
1488. And if that one
job doesn't pay all the bills,
Copy !req
1489. don't worry, you
can get another one
Copy !req
1490. and another one
Copy !req
1491. and another one.
Copy !req
1492. I work three jobs and I
feel like I contribute.
Copy !req
1493. You work three jobs?
Copy !req
1494. Three jobs, yes.
Copy !req
1495. Uniquely American, isn't it?
Copy !req
1496. That is fantastic that
you're doing that.
Copy !req
1497. Get any sleep?
Copy !req
1498. And if you're not
sleeping, take pharmaceuticals.
Copy !req
1499. You're tired all
the time.
Copy !req
1500. You may feel sad, hopeless,
Copy !req
1501. If you suffer from
excessive worry...
Copy !req
1502. You could be suffering
Copy !req
1503. from generalized
anxiety disorder.
Copy !req
1504. It could be adult ADD.
Copy !req
1505. - Talk to you doctor.
- Ask your doctor.
Copy !req
1506. - Ask your doctor.
- Ask your doctor.
Copy !req
1507. Ask your doctor.
Copy !req
1508. Yes, ask your
doctor
Copy !req
1509. and ask him for more drugs.
Copy !req
1510. That should keep you doped up
Copy !req
1511. until it's time to retire.
Copy !req
1512. Did I say retire?
Copy !req
1513. Well, if you do make it to 80,
Copy !req
1514. I'm sure your pension
will still be there.
Copy !req
1515. Unlike the new employees
for these companies,
Copy !req
1516. who'll never see a pension.
Copy !req
1517. But don't worry,
Copy !req
1518. I'm sure our kids
will take care of us
Copy !req
1519. considering the great
life we've given 'em.
Copy !req
1520. And remember, let's defeat
the terrorists over there
Copy !req
1521. so we don't have
to fight them here.
Copy !req
1522. Kaiser Permanente is the
largest HMO in the country.
Copy !req
1523. And Dawnelle Keyes
was fortunate enough
Copy !req
1524. to be fully insured by them.
Copy !req
1525. It's a good thing,
Copy !req
1526. because one night her 18
- month-old daughter, Mychelle,
Copy !req
1527. developed a fever of over 104.
Copy !req
1528. So, like any responsible
mom, she called 911
Copy !req
1529. and the ambulance took Mychelle
Copy !req
1530. to the closest hospital.
Copy !req
1531. The hospital
checked with her HMO
Copy !req
1532. and they were told that Kaiser
Copy !req
1533. would not cover the tests
Copy !req
1534. and the antibiotics
necessary to treat Mychelle.
Copy !req
1535. She would have to take her
Copy !req
1536. to an in-network,
Kaiser-owned hospital.
Copy !req
1537. Kaiser said that I
should bring her by car
Copy !req
1538. to the hospital
Copy !req
1539. and that she
shouldn't be treated
Copy !req
1540. at Martin Luther King.
Copy !req
1541. And I just continued to
ask them to treat her
Copy !req
1542. and they refused.
Copy !req
1543. My daughter got worse
and she had a seizure.
Copy !req
1544. Dawnelle begged
the doctors to not listen
Copy !req
1545. to Kaiser and to
treat her daughter.
Copy !req
1546. I was escorted out
of the hospital
Copy !req
1547. because they felt
that I was a threat.
Copy !req
1548. After hours of delay,
Copy !req
1549. she was transported to Kaiser.
Copy !req
1550. And got there just in time
to go into cardiac arrest.
Copy !req
1551. They worked on her
for about 30 minutes
Copy !req
1552. trying to revive her.
Copy !req
1553. And the doctors came in
Copy !req
1554. and let us know that
she had expired.
Copy !req
1555. I was in a daze, a real daze.
Copy !req
1556. It just didn't seem real.
Copy !req
1557. I just held her.
Copy !req
1558. I held her and I told her
Copy !req
1559. that Mommy tried her
best to help her,
Copy !req
1560. to make sure that
she was gonna get
Copy !req
1561. the treatment she
needed to receive.
Copy !req
1562. And that I was sorry that
I wasn't able to help her.
Copy !req
1563. This is Karena
and her daughter Zoe.
Copy !req
1564. Karena is a graduate of
Michigan State University
Copy !req
1565. and a native of my hometown
of Flint, Michigan.
Copy !req
1566. Six months ago, Zoe,
Copy !req
1567. like Dawnelle's baby Mychelle,
Copy !req
1568. came down with a high fever.
Copy !req
1569. What happened is she
stopped breathing
Copy !req
1570. for a little while, turned blue
Copy !req
1571. and passed out in my
arms, which was...
Copy !req
1572. It was the most horrible
moment in my life, I think,
Copy !req
1573. just because I thought that
she was either dead or dying.
Copy !req
1574. And I had no clue what to do.
Copy !req
1575. At the hospital, they
gave her some medicine
Copy !req
1576. to bring the fever down
Copy !req
1577. and examined her,
took some blood.
Copy !req
1578. What did they determine
was wrong with her?
Copy !req
1579. It was a throat infection.
Copy !req
1580. But we stayed at the hospital
from Friday to Sunday,
Copy !req
1581. just so they could
keep an eye on her.
Copy !req
1582. You stayed
there that long?
Copy !req
1583. Yeah, they just basically
kept an eye on her.
Copy !req
1584. And how much did
all this cost you,
Copy !req
1585. the three-plus days
in the hospital?
Copy !req
1586. Nothing.
Copy !req
1587. Nothing?
Copy !req
1588. Nothing.
Copy !req
1589. Nothing at all.
Copy !req
1590. And that's because?
Copy !req
1591. I live in France.
Copy !req
1592. You live in France?
Copy !req
1593. Yeah.
Copy !req
1594. Ah, France.
Copy !req
1595. They enjoy their wine.
Copy !req
1596. Their cigarettes and
their fatty foods.
Copy !req
1597. And yet, just like the
Canadians and the Brits,
Copy !req
1598. they live much
longer than we do.
Copy !req
1599. Something about that
seemed grossly unfair.
Copy !req
1600. This is Alexi Cremieux.
Copy !req
1601. He spent his entire
adult life in the US
Copy !req
1602. without health insurance.
Copy !req
1603. I lived in America for
13 years.
Copy !req
1604. I loved my life there.
Copy !req
1605. But then when I discovered
that I had a tumor
Copy !req
1606. and I didn't have
health insurance,
Copy !req
1607. unfortunately, I had
to come back here.
Copy !req
1608. And even though I had
never paid taxes in France
Copy !req
1609. 'cause I never worked here.
Copy !req
1610. I left when I was 18,
Copy !req
1611. I didn't even have a
Social Security number.
Copy !req
1612. For them it was,
Copy !req
1613. "He needs treatment,
he has no income,
Copy !req
1614. so we're gonna give him
the treatment he needs."
Copy !req
1615. Michael Moore] How are you doig
now?
Copy !req
1616. I'm healthy now,
Copy !req
1617. but I had three months
of intense chemotherapy.
Copy !req
1618. So, after the three
months, I saw my doctor
Copy !req
1619. and he said, "You
wanna go back to work?"
Copy !req
1620. I said, "No, I
don't feel like it.
Copy !req
1621. Right now, I'm not ready."
Copy !req
1622. He said, "Well, how
much do you need?"
Copy !req
1623. I said, "Well, I don't know."
Copy !req
1624. He said, "Would three
months be okay?"
Copy !req
1625. I said, "I think three
months would be fine."
Copy !req
1626. He said, "OK, so take
three months off."
Copy !req
1627. So, he wrote me a note
that I gave to my employer
Copy !req
1628. so to make sure that I got paid.
Copy !req
1629. So, I went to the
south of France...
Copy !req
1630. Wait a minute,
you get three months off with
pay?
Copy !req
1631. Yes, yes.
Copy !req
1632. I get 65% paid by the government
Copy !req
1633. and then the other 35%
is paid by my employer,
Copy !req
1634. so to make sure you get 100%.
Copy !req
1635. So, it was April,
it was spring again.
Copy !req
1636. So, I started right away,
sucking up some sun.
Copy !req
1637. And that really helped me a lot,
Copy !req
1638. to recharge my batteries.
Copy !req
1639. It was like night and day.
Copy !req
1640. In three months, I went
from a 95-year-old man
Copy !req
1641. to a 35-year-old man again.
Copy !req
1642. But that's because
I had that time
Copy !req
1643. to take care of myself.
Copy !req
1644. I'm not
really in a position
Copy !req
1645. to make any judgment
concerning the American system.
Copy !req
1646. I think the United States
is a great, great country.
Copy !req
1647. Americans are great people.
Copy !req
1648. I really love them.
Copy !req
1649. But as a doctor first,
as a citizen second
Copy !req
1650. and eventually, as
a patient third,
Copy !req
1651. I'm very glad to be in France.
Copy !req
1652. It's kind of a luxury here.
Copy !req
1653. You are sick, you
step in a hospital,
Copy !req
1654. you get the care you need.
Copy !req
1655. It doesn't depend
on your premiums.
Copy !req
1656. It depends on what you need.
Copy !req
1657. One of the principles
is solidarity.
Copy !req
1658. People who are better off pay
Copy !req
1659. for those who are worse off.
Copy !req
1660. You pay according to your means
Copy !req
1661. and you receive
according to your needs.
Copy !req
1662. Do you think
that will ever work in America?
Copy !req
1663. No.
Copy !req
1664. He could barely contain
Copy !req
1665. his seething anti-Americanism.
Copy !req
1666. And I just didn't wanna
listen to any more of it.
Copy !req
1667. So, I found a
group of Americans currently
living in Paris
Copy !req
1668. who I know would
tell me the truth.
Copy !req
1669. I was diagnosed
five years ago
Copy !req
1670. with Type I diabetes.
Copy !req
1671. I was a bit nervous
to tell them I had...
Copy !req
1672. - There's a place we have...
- To tell the French?
Copy !req
1673. To tell the French.
Copy !req
1674. There's a place we
have to check off
Copy !req
1675. whether or not you have
a chronic condition.
Copy !req
1676. I was nervous that
they were going
Copy !req
1677. to charge me more or something.
Copy !req
1678. And instead, I went
into a hospital
Copy !req
1679. and had round-the-clock care.
Copy !req
1680. And they do an amazing amount
preventative care as well.
Copy !req
1681. So, they asked if you have
Copy !req
1682. a preexisting condition
not to punish you,
Copy !req
1683. but to give you more help?
Copy !req
1684. Yes.
Copy !req
1685. [Male Expat #2] I was in the
hospital for a year.
Copy !req
1686. And as soon as I was in, it was,
Copy !req
1687. "Well, don't worry, just rest."
Copy !req
1688. People said "Rest."
Copy !req
1689. How many sick days
do you get a year?
Copy !req
1690. Three, four?
Copy !req
1691. I think it's unlimited.
Copy !req
1692. - Yeah, you're sick.
- Unlimited?
Copy !req
1693. Yes, how can you
limit sick days?
Copy !req
1694. If you're sick, you're sick.
Copy !req
1695. I've gone to
emergency rooms numerous times
Copy !req
1696. with four boys.
Copy !req
1697. And have never waited
more than an hour, never.
Copy !req
1698. I can call and
have somebody comes
Copy !req
1699. to the house within
half an hour.
Copy !req
1700. No way?
Copy !req
1701. Making a house call?
Copy !req
1702. At your place?
Copy !req
1703. How many of you have had
Copy !req
1704. a house call from a doctor?
Copy !req
1705. No!
Copy !req
1706. Last 3:00am last Friday.
Copy !req
1707. And how much does this cost you?
Copy !req
1708. - Nothing.
- It's reimbursed.
Copy !req
1709. What's this service called?
Copy !req
1710. Where are we
going?
Copy !req
1711. We are going to
see a man
Copy !req
1712. who has abdominal pain.
Copy !req
1713. - Abdominal pain?
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1714. Where do we go next?
Copy !req
1715. The next visit?
Copy !req
1716. One thing that I
say to anyone
Copy !req
1717. who asks me why I'm
in this country,
Copy !req
1718. is that I think it's one
Copy !req
1719. of the family's friendliest
countries that I know of.
Copy !req
1720. And talk about family values,
Copy !req
1721. childcare, healthcare...
Copy !req
1722. We don't pay for
day care.
Copy !req
1723. The day care
where I send my daughter
Copy !req
1724. and I was a teacher.
Copy !req
1725. The standards are very high.
Copy !req
1726. So, how much
does it cost you
Copy !req
1727. to have two children
here in day care?
Copy !req
1728. Or how much per hour?
Copy !req
1729. Are you happy with
how they're cared for?
Copy !req
1730. Here, my kids,
they're sure that they
Copy !req
1731. are gonna get a
certain level of care,
Copy !req
1732. a certain education,
Copy !req
1733. college I don't
have to worry about.
Copy !req
1734. What do you mean?
Copy !req
1735. - It's free.
- You're kidding?
Copy !req
1736. You can get a college
education for free.
Copy !req
1737. - No way.
- Yes.
Copy !req
1738. There's not a sense
of desperation.
Copy !req
1739. They rest, they enjoy life.
Copy !req
1740. They spend time with their kids,
Copy !req
1741. there's vacations,
there's family time.
Copy !req
1742. So, how many weeks
of paid vacation?
Copy !req
1743. Minimum five weeks.
Copy !req
1744. Five weeks?
Copy !req
1745. - Minimum of five weeks?
- That's the french law.
Copy !req
1746. If you work for a large company,
Copy !req
1747. you get sometimes
eight, ten weeks.
Copy !req
1748. Remember that there
is a 35-hour week.
Copy !req
1749. The productivity
rate is so high here.
Copy !req
1750. I read it was higher
than the United States.
Copy !req
1751. If they're working more
than 35 hours a week,
Copy !req
1752. they'll get extra days off.
Copy !req
1753. There's part-time and full
- time employees as well.
Copy !req
1754. You get five weeks paid vacation
Copy !req
1755. even if you're a
part-time employee?
Copy !req
1756. Of course.
Copy !req
1757. Everybody.
Copy !req
1758. If you get married, the
year you get married,
Copy !req
1759. you get an extra week
Copy !req
1760. or extra seven days
for your honeymoon.
Copy !req
1761. In addition to your five weeks.
Copy !req
1762. You're paid to take
your honeymoon?
Copy !req
1763. Correct.
Copy !req
1764. You got move to France now.
Copy !req
1765. Yeah, if you move.
Copy !req
1766. You mean if you gonna move
Copy !req
1767. from one apartment to another?
Copy !req
1768. You get a day to move and
they pay you that day?
Copy !req
1769. These are the laws here.
Copy !req
1770. When my daughter was
three months old,
Copy !req
1771. there was this free
service that sent somebody
Copy !req
1772. to your home to give
you tips on what to do
Copy !req
1773. with your child, how
to get them to sleep,
Copy !req
1774. every single day, for free.
Copy !req
1775. And they'll come to your house
Copy !req
1776. and do your laundry!
Copy !req
1777. They will, sure!
Copy !req
1778. No, stop, stop!
Copy !req
1779. - When you have a baby.
- When you have a baby.
Copy !req
1780. What are you doing?
Copy !req
1781. You from the government?
Copy !req
1782. She do anything else?
Copy !req
1783. If I want, yes.
Copy !req
1784. She's, of course, taking
care of the children.
Copy !req
1785. And I think if I ask her
Copy !req
1786. to prepare a meal for
tonight, she can do it.
Copy !req
1787. No problem.
Copy !req
1788. She's coming twice a
week, four hours a day.
Copy !req
1789. So, I can do everything I want,
Copy !req
1790. for me, for the
house, for my husband,
Copy !req
1791. during four hours.
Copy !req
1792. And it's very precious for me.
Copy !req
1793. You don't have any associations?
Copy !req
1794. Nothing to help like that?
Copy !req
1795. No, nobody from the
government comes
Copy !req
1796. to your home in America
Copy !req
1797. and does your laundry for
you if you're a new mother.
Copy !req
1798. It's difficult.
Copy !req
1799. Yeah.
Copy !req
1800. Something that I
experience a lot of
Copy !req
1801. with my own family is guilt.
Copy !req
1802. Guilt for being here almost
Copy !req
1803. and seeing the advantages
Copy !req
1804. and the benefits I have
at such a young age.
Copy !req
1805. And things that my parents
worked their whole life for,
Copy !req
1806. haven't even come
close to touching.
Copy !req
1807. It's really hard to
know that you're here
Copy !req
1808. in a very privileged position,
Copy !req
1809. not living the high life,
Copy !req
1810. but in comparison, definitely.
Copy !req
1811. And that seems
completely unfair.
Copy !req
1812. One of the things that keeps
everything running here
Copy !req
1813. is that the government
is afraid of the people.
Copy !req
1814. They're afraid of protests,
Copy !req
1815. they're afraid of
reactions from the people.
Copy !req
1816. Whereas in the states,
Copy !req
1817. people are afraid
of the government.
Copy !req
1818. They're afraid of acting up,
Copy !req
1819. they're afraid of protesting,
Copy !req
1820. they're afraid of getting out.
Copy !req
1821. In France, that's
what people do.
Copy !req
1822. Free college
education,
Copy !req
1823. free medical care,
government-issued nannies,
Copy !req
1824. I began to wonder how do
they pay for all this?
Copy !req
1825. And then I realized
they're drowning in taxes!
Copy !req
1826. I wanted to see what effect
Copy !req
1827. this would have on a
nice French family.
Copy !req
1828. So, I went to find out.
Copy !req
1829. - Hello.
- Hello.
Copy !req
1830. - Thank you.
- Welcome.
Copy !req
1831. This is very nice.
Copy !req
1832. - It's the news.
- Yes.
Copy !req
1833. What is your combined income for
Copy !req
1834. the two of you together
for, say one month?
Copy !req
1835. All right, you're an engineer
Copy !req
1836. and she's an assistant?
Copy !req
1837. Not bad.
Copy !req
1838. And how much do
you pay each month
Copy !req
1839. on your mortgage?
Copy !req
1840. A thousand and two or
three euros a month.
Copy !req
1841. How many cars do you own?
Copy !req
1842. - Two.
- Two.
Copy !req
1843. Do you owe money
from medical bills?
Copy !req
1844. Is there any other
debt, loans, anything?
Copy !req
1845. Only the apartment.
Copy !req
1846. And what are your
other big expenses?
Copy !req
1847. The fish, vegetables.
Copy !req
1848. Vegetables are a big
monthly expense for you.
Copy !req
1849. - Yes and fruit, yogurt.
- Fruit, yogurt.
Copy !req
1850. What are your
other big expenses?
Copy !req
1851. Very important.
Copy !req
1852. - Kenya?
- We liked.
Copy !req
1853. Are you happy?
Copy !req
1854. Yes.
Copy !req
1855. After seeing all this,
Copy !req
1856. I began to wonder.
Copy !req
1857. Was there a reason
our government
Copy !req
1858. and our media wants
us to hate the French?
Copy !req
1859. Are they worried we
might like the French?
Copy !req
1860. Or like their ways
of doing things?
Copy !req
1861. It was enough to make me
put away my freedom fries.
Copy !req
1862. Meanwhile, back at home,
hospitals had found a new way
Copy !req
1863. to deal with patients who
didn't have health insurance
Copy !req
1864. and couldn't pay their bill.
Copy !req
1865. I was standing against
the wall
Copy !req
1866. and I saw a cab do a U-turn
and pull up to the curb.
Copy !req
1867. And I watched to see
what was happening
Copy !req
1868. 'cause I had a feeling
what was gonna occur,
Copy !req
1869. 'cause it's not a new thing.
Copy !req
1870. They pulled up right here
by this yellow fire hydrant
Copy !req
1871. and dropped Carol off and
immediately pulled away.
Copy !req
1872. And as soon as they pulled away,
Copy !req
1873. she walked out into the
street about up to here.
Copy !req
1874. She then walked all the way down
Copy !req
1875. to the driveway down
here, completely confused,
Copy !req
1876. has no shoes on whatsoever
and just in a hospital gown.
Copy !req
1877. If you've been to a hospital,
those gowns are thin.
Copy !req
1878. And that's when one of
our staff members went out
Copy !req
1879. and asked Carol if
she needed assistance
Copy !req
1880. and found out that she was
confused and disoriented
Copy !req
1881. and didn't know where she was.
Copy !req
1882. Kaiser Permanent in
Bellflower Hospital
Copy !req
1883. had put her in a cab
Copy !req
1884. and directed them to bring
her to this drop-off point.
Copy !req
1885. But the names of the hospitals
Copy !req
1886. had been taken off
both bracelets before
she arrived here.
Copy !req
1887. I have seen
others that have come
Copy !req
1888. through our doors who have
IVs still in their arms.
Copy !req
1889. They told me
that at their shelter alone,
Copy !req
1890. over 50 patients had been
dumped there by hospitals.
Copy !req
1891. The options are
few.
Copy !req
1892. We either open the front
door and let them out,
Copy !req
1893. which is not the
humane thing to do
Copy !req
1894. or something we don't wanna do
Copy !req
1895. or we try to find
someplace for them to go.
Copy !req
1896. And right now, Skid Row
is the best bed in town.
Copy !req
1897. In fact, the
night before we were there,
Copy !req
1898. the county hospital run by
Copy !req
1899. the University of
Southern California,
Copy !req
1900. one of the richest private
schools in the country,
Copy !req
1901. dumped another patient
off on the curb,
Copy !req
1902. a woman unable to pay
her hospital bill.
Copy !req
1903. Do you know
how you got here?
Copy !req
1904. Patricia] In the cab.
Copy !req
1905. In the cab?
Copy !req
1906. From General Hospital,
they gave him the voucher.
Copy !req
1907. He dropped me off there,
Copy !req
1908. he actually forced
me out of the car.
Copy !req
1909. Ma'am, are you in
pain right now?
Copy !req
1910. Are you in pain right now?
Copy !req
1911. Yeah.
Copy !req
1912. Is there anything we can do?
Copy !req
1913. She, at this
time, has broken ribs,
Copy !req
1914. broken collarbone and stitches
Copy !req
1915. that are not completely healed
Copy !req
1916. across the top of her head
Copy !req
1917. and on the side of her head.
Copy !req
1918. Now let me ask you, ma'am
Copy !req
1919. before they dropped you off,
Copy !req
1920. did they ask you if you
knew where you were going?
Copy !req
1921. No.
Copy !req
1922. So, they didn't ask
you any questions
Copy !req
1923. about your orientation,
Copy !req
1924. or whether or not you
knew what was going on?
Copy !req
1925. No, they just told me
to take care of myself.
Copy !req
1926. May I take a
minute to ask a question
Copy !req
1927. that's been on my mind?
Copy !req
1928. Who are we?
Copy !req
1929. Is this what we've become?
Copy !req
1930. A nation that dumps
its own citizens like
Copy !req
1931. so much garbage on
the side of the curb
Copy !req
1932. because they can't pay
their hospital bill?
Copy !req
1933. I always thought and
believe to this day
Copy !req
1934. that we're a good
and generous people.
Copy !req
1935. This is what we do
if somebody's in trouble.
Copy !req
1936. Anybody gets sick, we all
get together and help.
Copy !req
1937. People with a
good heart.
Copy !req
1938. You feel like
you're sacrificing,
Copy !req
1939. but then you get a
blessing from doing this
Copy !req
1940. and that's what we all feel.
Copy !req
1941. And a good soul.
Copy !req
1942. We've got a lot of
community support
Copy !req
1943. and we're gonna
all keep working
Copy !req
1944. until we locate this child.
Copy !req
1945. Neighbors who
are quick to lend a helping had
Copy !req
1946. to anyone in their hour
of need.
Copy !req
1947. I deliver meals to them,
Copy !req
1948. but my life has been so blessed
Copy !req
1949. that this is just the
least that I can do.
Copy !req
1950. They say that
you can judge a society
Copy !req
1951. by how it treats those
who are the worst off.
Copy !req
1952. But is the opposite true?
Copy !req
1953. That you can judge a society
Copy !req
1954. by how it treats its
best, its heroes?
Copy !req
1955. The firefighters
and police,
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1956. rescue and recovery workers
Copy !req
1957. have responded
with true heroism.
Copy !req
1958. It was their
initial heroism that thwarted
Copy !req
1959. the objectives of
the terrorists.
Copy !req
1960. Without regard,
in many instances,
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1961. to their own safety
and security.
Copy !req
1962. They truly are
heroes.
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1963. We owe them everything!
Copy !req
1964. Here they are
folks, the men and women
Copy !req
1965. who have been on the
front lines for New York
Copy !req
1966. and for all of us in America!
Copy !req
1967. Tonight is dedicated to you!
Copy !req
1968. Don't forget about
Copy !req
1969. the raffles going on over there,
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1970. we got one dollar each.
Copy !req
1971. I spent two and
a half years down there.
Copy !req
1972. I got upper and lower
breathing problems.
Copy !req
1973. I need a double lung transplant,
Copy !req
1974. but was diagnosed with
pulmonary fibrosis.
Copy !req
1975. I haven't slept in a
bed in over five years,
Copy !req
1976. I sleep on a chair
with a blanket,
Copy !req
1977. because if I lay
down I can't breathe.
Copy !req
1978. There were
hundreds of rescue workers on
Copy !req
1979. 911 who were not city employee.
Copy !req
1980. But rather ran
down to Ground Zero
Copy !req
1981. on their own to help out.
Copy !req
1982. We need volunteers
for first aid!
Copy !req
1983. And many
developed serious respiratory
illnesses.
Copy !req
1984. That's when the government sai,
Copy !req
1985. "They're not our responsibility
Copy !req
1986. because they weren't
on our payroll."
Copy !req
1987. John Graham is an EMT volunteer
Copy !req
1988. from Paramus, New Jersey.
Copy !req
1989. He was in Lower Manhattan
when he heard the planes hit
Copy !req
1990. and rushed over to help.
Copy !req
1991. He worked in the rescue effort
Copy !req
1992. for the next few months.
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1993. But then had trouble receiving
benefits for his illness.
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1994. They just deny
you for any reason.
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1995. It's just a terrible
waiting game.
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1996. I really feel like they're
waiting for you to die.
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1997. It's terrible.
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1998. I never thought that
we would do this,
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1999. that the United
States would do this.
Copy !req
2000. William Maher
is a volunteer member
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2001. of New Jersey's Fire Service.
Copy !req
2002. He spent two months working ner
Copy !req
2003. The Pile at Ground Zero
recovering bodies or
body parts.
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2004. And it deeply affected him.
Copy !req
2005. I'm experiencing a
lot of disturbing dreams
Copy !req
2006. or whatever you'd
like to call them,
Copy !req
2007. and it affected what
I was doing at night
Copy !req
2008. and unaware of it
because I was asleep
Copy !req
2009. and I just kept grinding
and grinding my teeth.
Copy !req
2010. The upper fronts are damaged,
Copy !req
2011. practically beyond repair,
Copy !req
2012. because of my constant grinding
Copy !req
2013. over the last three years.
Copy !req
2014. I've been before a
workers' comp board already
Copy !req
2015. for the 9/11 volunteers' fund.
Copy !req
2016. And I've been denied three times
Copy !req
2017. and hopefully, I will go
on my fourth appeal soon,
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2018. if I can get the
necessary documentation.
Copy !req
2019. Of course,
there was a $50 million fund
Copy !req
2020. set up supposedly to help
rescue workers.
Copy !req
2021. Ladies and
gentlemen,
Copy !req
2022. the governor of New
York, George Pataki.
Copy !req
2023. But the
government,
Copy !req
2024. like the health
insurance companies,
Copy !req
2025. made it very difficult for
people to receive help.
Copy !req
2026. You have to have spent
Copy !req
2027. a certain amount of time
here at Ground Zero,
Copy !req
2028. you have to be able
to establish that.
Copy !req
2029. You do have to file an affidavit
Copy !req
2030. within the next year,
Copy !req
2031. relating your work
experiences at Ground Zero.
Copy !req
2032. And then, even with all of
that, it's not automatic.
Copy !req
2033. There is a presumption when
certain illnesses occur,
Copy !req
2034. but that presumption
can be rebutted
Copy !req
2035. by other medical evidence.
Copy !req
2036. So, we think it is
a very fair approach
Copy !req
2037. that protects our heroes.
Copy !req
2038. I'm sorry.
Copy !req
2039. Reggie
Cervantes was
Copy !req
2040. a volunteer emergency
medical technician on 911.
Copy !req
2041. Nothing makes it
go away sometimes.
Copy !req
2042. Not water, not cough
medicine, not anything.
Copy !req
2043. It's just burning in
my throat and irritated
Copy !req
2044. and it just gets me to coughing.
Copy !req
2045. Where sometimes I
have trouble breathing
Copy !req
2046. 'cause I can't catch my breath.
Copy !req
2047. Reggie spent
her days
Copy !req
2048. at Ground Zero carrying bodies
Copy !req
2049. and treating other
rescue workers.
Copy !req
2050. My airway was totally
burnt that first week
Copy !req
2051. and I had trouble
breathing by then.
Copy !req
2052. But we wanted to see
Copy !req
2053. if we could dig
anybody up alive,
Copy !req
2054. we wanted to see if
we had lost anybody,
Copy !req
2055. if we were still
missing somebody.
Copy !req
2056. I wanted to help.
Copy !req
2057. I was trained for this.
Copy !req
2058. You see somebody who is
in need, you help 'em.
Copy !req
2059. Reggie had
difficulty getting treatment.
Copy !req
2060. Too sick to work
and with no income.
Copy !req
2061. She was forced to quit her job
Copy !req
2062. and used her savings
to move her
Copy !req
2063. and her kids out of the city.
Copy !req
2064. It's hard to figure out
Copy !req
2065. how you're supposed to get help.
Copy !req
2066. We're trying to go
about it the right way,
Copy !req
2067. but we're ignored.
Copy !req
2068. But not everyoe
after 911
Copy !req
2069. was ignored by the government.
Copy !req
2070. We're now
approaching the five-year
Copy !req
2071. anniversary of the 9/11 attack.
Copy !req
2072. So, I'm announcing today
that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed,
Copy !req
2073. Abu Zubaydah, Ramzi Binalshibh
Copy !req
2074. and 11 other terrorists
in CIA custody
Copy !req
2075. have been transferred to
Copy !req
2076. the United States Naval
Base at Guantanamo Bay.
Copy !req
2077. On that island,
today are some
Copy !req
2078. of the world's most
hardened enemy combatants.
Copy !req
2079. These detainees
are deadly
Copy !req
2080. and include the 20th hijacker,
Copy !req
2081. as well as a number of Osama
bin Laden's personal bodyguards
Copy !req
2082. and others who had a direct role
Copy !req
2083. in the September 11 attacks.
Copy !req
2084. The kind of
people held at Guantanamo
Copy !req
2085. include terrorist
trainers, bomb-makers.
Copy !req
2086. Many of
them have American blood on
Copy !req
2087. their hands and they're
certainly the elite of Al-Qaeda.
Copy !req
2088. It seems to me we
have an obligation
Copy !req
2089. to treat these individuals
as enemy combatants.
Copy !req
2090. And then I
learned
Copy !req
2091. it wasn't all bad news
at Gitmo.
Copy !req
2092. Detainees
representing a threat
Copy !req
2093. to our national security
are given access
Copy !req
2094. to top-notch medical facilities.
Copy !req
2095. They have acute
care 24 hours a day,
Copy !req
2096. in which surgical procedures,
Copy !req
2097. everything can be
performed right there
Copy !req
2098. in the detainee camps.
Copy !req
2099. This is the
dental clinic or the health
clinic
Copy !req
2100. slash dental clinic.
Copy !req
2101. We have a physical
therapy department,
Copy !req
2102. we have X-ray capabilities
with digital X-rays,
Copy !req
2103. we have one single
operating room.
Copy !req
2104. Health personnel
to detainee ratio
Copy !req
2105. is one to four, remarkably high.
Copy !req
2106. We do sick call on the
blocks three times per week,
Copy !req
2107. care for them there if they can
Copy !req
2108. or bring that detainee
back to the clinic
Copy !req
2109. to be seen there.
Copy !req
2110. Screening for cancer
has taken place there,
Copy !req
2111. colonoscopy is a procedure which
Copy !req
2112. is performed there
on a routine basis.
Copy !req
2113. We have diabetes,
Copy !req
2114. we have high blood
pressure, high cholesterol.
Copy !req
2115. We do periodically
monitor the weight
Copy !req
2116. and nutrition of the detainees,
Copy !req
2117. so that we can track
those detainees
Copy !req
2118. to make sure we see
them frequently,
Copy !req
2119. monitoring their labs
and their overall health.
Copy !req
2120. Their medical
attention...
Copy !req
2121. They get way better
medical treatment
Copy !req
2122. than I've ever had.
Copy !req
2123. Do you think it's
as good
Copy !req
2124. as most as HMOs in the US?
Copy !req
2125. Certainly very similar
and as good, sir.
Copy !req
2126. I leave with an
impression
Copy !req
2127. that healthcare there
is clearly better
Copy !req
2128. than they received at home
Copy !req
2129. and as good as many people
receive in the
Copy !req
2130. United States of America.
Copy !req
2131. Wow,
so there is actually
Copy !req
2132. one place on American soil
Copy !req
2133. that had free
universal healthcare.
Copy !req
2134. That's all I needed to know.
Copy !req
2135. I went down to Miami, Florida.
Copy !req
2136. Got myself a boat
and loaded up Bill
Copy !req
2137. and Reggie and John.
Copy !req
2138. - John
- Welcome, sir.
Copy !req
2139. And anyone else I
could find who needed
Copy !req
2140. to see a doctor and
couldn't afford one.
Copy !req
2141. So, many people showed up.
Copy !req
2142. I had to get a
couple extra boats.
Copy !req
2143. And I called up Donna
Smith from Denver.
Copy !req
2144. Who is now on nine
different medications.
Copy !req
2145. And I asked her if she'd
like to come along.
Copy !req
2146. I figured she'd like to get out
Copy !req
2147. of her daughter's
basement for a while.
Copy !req
2148. All right, let's Go.
Copy !req
2149. Which way to Guantanamo Bay?
Copy !req
2150. Can we go?
Copy !req
2151. We're not going to Cuba,
Copy !req
2152. we're going to America!
Copy !req
2153. It's American soil!
Copy !req
2154. We made it.
Copy !req
2155. There it is, there's the runway.
Copy !req
2156. That's the prison over there
where the detainees are.
Copy !req
2157. We're very close.
Copy !req
2158. Yeah, we're very close.
Copy !req
2159. The white building is
the hospital, I think.
Copy !req
2160. Okay, let's go.
Copy !req
2161. We commandeered a fishing boat
Copy !req
2162. and sailed into Guantanamo Bay.
Copy !req
2163. As we approached the
line in the water
Copy !req
2164. between the American and
Cuban side of the bay,
Copy !req
2165. we were told to be
careful for mines.
Copy !req
2166. Permission to enter.
Copy !req
2167. I have three 9/11
rescue workers,
Copy !req
2168. they need some
medical attention.
Copy !req
2169. These are 9/11 rescue workers!
Copy !req
2170. They just want some
medical attention!
Copy !req
2171. The same kind that
Al-Qaeda is getting.
Copy !req
2172. They don't want any more than
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2173. you're giving the
evildoers, just the same!
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2174. Hello.
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2175. No one in the guard
tower was responding
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2176. and then suddenly
we heard a siren.
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2177. We figured it was time
to get out of here.
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2178. But what was I supposed to
do with all these sick people
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2179. and no one to help them?
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2180. Here we were stuck
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2181. in some godforsaken
Third World country.
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2182. And communists, no less.
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2183. When I was a kid, these
people wanted to kill us.
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2184. What was I supposed to do?
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2185. Excuse me, we're
looking for a doctor.
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2186. Is there a doctor here in Cuba?
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2187. Any doctors?
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2188. All in this one block?
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2189. All right, thank you
very much, thank you.
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2190. Okay, okay, I know
what you're thinking.
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2191. Cuba is where Lucifer lives.
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2192. The worse place on Earth.
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2193. The most evil
nation ever created.
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2194. How do we know that?
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2195. 'Cause that's what we've
been told for over 45 years.
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2196. A series of
offensive missile sites
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2197. can be none other
than to provide
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2198. a nuclear strike capability
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2199. against the western hemisphere.
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2200. I'm not gonna
yield until Fidel Castro
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2201. allows freedom on the island.
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2202. That's a...
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2203. You can count on it.
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2204. Put it in the
bank.
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2205. It seems that
what really bugged us about
Castro
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2206. was that he overthrew the
dictator that we liked
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2207. and replaced him with a guy
we didn't like, himself.
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2208. And so, now, after
all these years,
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2209. one thing is clear,
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2210. the Cuban people have
free universal healthcare.
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2211. They've become known
around the world
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2212. as having not only one of
the best healthcare systems,
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2213. but as being one of the
most generous countries
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2214. in providing doctors
and medical equipment
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2215. to Third World countries.
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2216. In the US, healthcare costs
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2217. run nearly $7,000 per person.
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2218. But in Cuba, they
spend only $251.
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2219. And yet the Cubans are able
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2220. to have a lower
infant mortality rate
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2221. than the United States,
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2222. a longer average life span
than the United States.
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2223. They believe in
preventive medicine.
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2224. And it seems like there's
a doctor on every block.
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2225. Their only sin when it
comes to healthcare,
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2226. seems to be that they
don't do it for a profit.
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2227. Anybody need medication
right now from the pharmacy?
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2228. Are you the pharmacist?
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2229. Do you have this?
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2230. Is this one similar to yours?
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2231. Yeah.
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2232. It's $120 in the US.
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2233. This is $120 in the US?
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2234. Yes.
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2235. How much is that in
American dollars?
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2236. It's like five
cents.
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2237. - Five cents?
- Yeah, more or less.
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2238. Thank you very much.
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2239. $120 is a lot of money
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2240. when you get $1,000 in
social security disability
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2241. and need one or two a month.
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2242. Five cents here?
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2243. It's like the biggest insult.
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2244. It just doesn't make any sense.
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2245. It doesn't make any sense.
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2246. I wanna fill a suitcase up
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2247. and go back home with it.
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2248. I took my group
of sick Americans
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2249. to a hospital to see if
they could get some care.
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2250. They didn't ask for money
or an insurance card,
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2251. just their name
and date of birth.
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2252. That was the entire
intake session.
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2253. Thank you very much
for doing this.
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2254. You are
very welcome.
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2255. I asked them to give
us the same exact care
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2256. they give their
fellow Cuban citizens.
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2257. No more, no less.
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2258. And that's what they did.
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2259. I'm Dr. Roque, I'm
an internal medicine specialist.
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2260. John Graham.
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2261. How are you feeling?
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2262. My lungs hurt, I have pain.
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2263. I get pretty severe
nose bleeds at times.
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2264. I get terrible headaches
in the middle of the night,
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2265. but I haven't been evaluated
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2266. for the sleep apnea
for nine years.
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2267. Yeah, I have...
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2268. Many medications
for lung problems.
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2269. Almost every medication for
lung problems, I've got.
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2270. After 9/11, things
have happened,
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2271. my teeth started falling out.
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2272. Because of certain
conditions, I was grinding.
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2273. There's one test that
they recommended I take,
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2274. it's about $5,000 to $ 7,000.
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2275. The dentist that I talked to,
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2276. it's like $15,000 or more.
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2277. Now, it's two years I
have no medical coverage,
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2278. so I can't go for the
last part of the test.
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2279. It's okay, everything's
gonna be okay.
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2280. Yes, I am so...
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2281. It's so hard for me to digest
somebody saying it's free
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2282. because 20 years of our lives
have been spent fighting.
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2283. So, I am so grateful.
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2284. No, you don't need to say that.
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2285. Thank you, thank you.
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2286. Come on, don't cry,
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2287. everything's gonna be okay.
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2288. Thank you.
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2289. At least what we can do.
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2290. Reggie was
diagnosed with a series of
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2291. pulmonary and bronchial
problems.
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2292. The Cuban doctors gave
her a treatment plan
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2293. to follow back home
along with some
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2294. of those five cent inhalers.
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2295. William Maher received a number
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2296. of treatments on his
neck and his back.
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2297. And having ground down his teeh
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2298. for three years straight due
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2299. to post-traumatic
stress disorder.
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2300. He left Cuba with
a new set of teeth.
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2301. After a series of
tests on his heart,
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2302. lungs, blood and stomach,
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2303. John now knew what
his ailments were.
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2304. He was given a strict
plan to follow,
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2305. plus a number of treatments
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2306. and was feeling better
than he had in years.
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2307. The Cuban doctors were able
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2308. to take Donna off five
of her nine medications.
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2309. And with a correct diagnosis,
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2310. gave her a treatment plan
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2311. to help her live a
more normal life.
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2312. When the firefighters and
paramedics in Havana heard
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2313. that the 911 rescue
workers were in town,
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2314. they invited them over to
one of their firehouses.
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2315. And so, on our last day
there as we arrived,
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2316. they stood at attention
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2317. because they said,
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2318. they wanted to honor
the heroes of 911.
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2319. The brothers we lost on
9/11
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2320. was felt around the world.
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2321. Don't hesitate to hug a brother.
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2322. It's very
important for them to wear
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2323. the SCBA so they don't
end up like me.
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2324. If this is what
can happen
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2325. between supposed enemies.
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2326. If one enemy can
hold out his hand
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2327. and offer to heal,
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2328. then what else is possible?
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2329. That's when I heard
that the man who runs
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2330. the biggest anti-Michael
Moore website on the internet
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2331. was going to have
to shut it down.
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2332. He could no longer
afford to keep it up
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2333. because his wife was ill
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2334. and they couldn't afford to pay
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2335. for her health insurance.
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2336. He was faced with a choice
of either keep attacking me
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2337. or pay for his wife's health.
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2338. Fortunately, he chose his wife.
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2339. But something seemed
wrong about being forced
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2340. into such a decision.
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2341. Why in a free country
shouldn't he be able
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2342. to have health insurance
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2343. and exercise his
First Amendment right
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2344. to run me into the ground?
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2345. So, I wrote a check for
the $12,000 he needed
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2346. to keep his wife
insured and in treatment
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2347. and sent it to him anonymously.
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2348. His wife got better
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2349. and his website is
still going strong.
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2350. It was hard for me to
acknowledge that in the end,
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2351. we truly are all
in the same boat.
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2352. And that no matter
what our differences,
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2353. we sink or swim together.
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2354. That's how it seems
to be everywhere else.
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2355. They take care of each other
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2356. no matter what
their disagreements.
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2357. When we see a good idea
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2358. from another
country, we grab it.
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2359. If they build a better
car, we drive it.
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2360. If they make a better
wine, we drink it.
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2361. So, if they've come
up with a better way
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2362. to treat the sick,
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2363. to teach their kids,
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2364. to take care of their babies,
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2365. to simply be good
to each other,
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2366. then what's our problem?
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2367. Why can't we do that?
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2368. They live in a
world of we not me.
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2369. We'll never fix
anything until we get
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2370. that one basic thing right.
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2371. And powerful forces
hope that we never do.
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2372. And that we remain the only
country in the western world
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2373. without free
universal healthcare.
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2374. If we ever did remove the
chokehold of medical bills,
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2375. college loans, day care
and everything else
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2376. that makes us afraid
to step out of line.
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2377. Well, watch out, 'cause it'll
be a new day in America.
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2378. In the meantime, I'm gonna
go get the government
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2379. to do my laundry.
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