1. One of our vehicles, is it?
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5. Jesus Christ, that's Hermann Göring.
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6. - Who?
- Hitler's second-in-command.
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8. What did he say?
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10. Justice Jackson?
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11. That depends on if you have a good reason
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12. to be banging on my door
at 3:00 in the morning.
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13. They captured Hermann Göring alive.
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14. - Where?
- Austria.
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16. Well, that's the real question,
isn't it? Can I come in?
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- But it's raining.
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19. Not that I know of.
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they were gonna shoot him.
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signed the order themselves.
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without a trial.
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26. That's what I'm here to talk about.
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28. - You keep saying that.
- Because it can't be done.
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to base the charges on.
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outside of one nation's jurisdiction
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of international law is that
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citizens how to conduct themselves.
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- Trying these men
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is trying them
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that doesn't exist,
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that hasn't been written yet,
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42. - I'm getting you a drink.
- I don't want a drink.
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43. Then I'm getting me another
and getting you one for show.
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who enforced the racial codes?
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what do you charge them with?
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50. Conspiracy to wage
aggressive war on the world.
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- Robert...
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61. You can't do it without the Russians.
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62. Four international judges.
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64. Exactly.
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what these men did.
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67. I know.
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68. But it has to be done.
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69. Pick a card.
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70. I don't think so.
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71. Ask me to pick one.
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72. Pick a card.
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73. Now ask me to please remember it
and put it back in the deck.
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74. Please remember it
and put it back in the deck.
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75. Now shuffle 'em.
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79. Turn over the top one.
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80. Who are you?
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81. I'm a psychiatrist.
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82. Oh, and why are you going to Mondorf?
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83. I wish I knew.
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84. They send psychiatrists
on secret missions now?
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88. You're a really good magician.
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89. Dr. Kelley?
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90. Sergeant Howie Triest, at your service.
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91. I'm gonna run you over
to the commandant's office.
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92. - Tigers, huh?
- Yes, sir.
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93. Perhaps I'll see you around.
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94. Jiminy.
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96. That, Howie, was a very attractive woman.
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97. Did you say "commandant"?
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98. Uh, yes, sir. Colonel Andrus.
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99. So, can you tell me
what I'm supposed to be doing here?
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100. I thought the war was over.
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101. I couldn't say.
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102. Couldn't say because you don't know
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103. or you couldn't say 'cause somebody
told you you couldn't say?
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104. I couldn't say.
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105. Hmm.
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106. Don't get sore at me, Doc.
I'm just your translator.
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108. You'll see.
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Central Command thinks
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111. I imagine you have some questions for me.
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112. - More than a few.
- Then let's get to it.
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a secret military prison.
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114. It currently houses what's left
of the Nazi High Command.
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115. The governments of Russia, France,
Great Britain, and our United States
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these men on trial for their lives.
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117. You have been brought in
to inspect and ensure
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should that trial go forward.
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119. Suicide.
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120. That'll be the main concern
with most of the prisoners.
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121. Hitler, Goebbels, and Himmler
have already taken their own lives.
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122. We cannot afford any more losses.
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123. Goebbels and Himmler did it with this.
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125. The one you'll have to watch
the closest is Göring.
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128. That's the one.
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130. Sergeant, is it possible
the major suffered a large blow
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132. - Not that I'm aware of, sir.
- Sorry.
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133. - It's just a lot to process.
- Sure it is. Try and do it faster.
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134. - Yes, sir.
- When Göring surrendered,
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136. He had over a million dollars
in German currency and jewelry.
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137. And a large quantity...
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138. of these.
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139. We had them sent back
to the States for classification.
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140. Paracodeine.
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141. Fairly potent painkiller. I'm a fan.
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142. He says they're for his heart.
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143. Well, then, I have a rather large bridge
in Brooklyn to sell you.
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144. These have nothing to do with the heart.
They're an opiate.
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145. How many pills does he take a day?
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146. - Sergeant?
- Forty, sir.
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147. I think it's safe to say
the Reichsmarschall's got a drug problem.
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148. Where's his family now?
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149. They've been released
and they're not your concern.
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150. Your only job is to evaluate
Göring and the others. That is it.
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151. Sir, I'm a good doctor,
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152. but the entire Nazi High Command might be
a little bit beyond my area of expertise.
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153. Believe me, Major, this was not my idea.
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155. He's not great at pep talks, is he?
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156. Commandant's not known
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157. - I wanna meet him.
- Who?
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158. - Göring. Right now.
- Excuse me, sir.
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159. You don't wanna get settled first?
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160. I wanna know what I'm dealing with.
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161. All right, well, don't be too intimidated.
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162. I'm not. Tell me about him.
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163. Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring,
President of the Reichstag,
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Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe,
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of the Gestapo secret police,
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German military officer of all time.
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170. Don't be. You're good.
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171. Reichsmarschall.
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172. Guten Tag, Herr Triest.
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173. Reichsmarschall Göring,
my name is Dr. Douglas Kelley.
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174. He says, "Wonderful, a doctor."
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175. I am. May I take your pulse?
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176. Ja, ja.
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177. He's been asking
for his pills.
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178. - He wants you to get 'em for him.
- Mm-hmm.
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179. I understand you've had heart trouble.
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180. "I've had
several minor heart attacks
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181. "and the pills help with that."
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184. Respiration is rapid
and shallow. Don't translate that.
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186. Ja, ja.
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shot down in World War I.
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188. He has a bullet in his right hip.
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189. In 1923, he was shot in the groin
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191. You've been shot a lot, sir.
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192. "Occupational hazard."
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wanna look after your heart,
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is to lose some weight.
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195. "I assure you, you are looking
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196. "at the best physique in all of Germany,
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197. "just ask my wife."
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198. I'm sure you're right, sir,
but the guards here call you "Fat Stuff."
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199. I'm sure...
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to lose this weight,
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201. but you possess a fortitude and discipline
that others do not, yes?
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202. "You see, this man is different."
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203. "We're gonna
be good friends. I'm sure of it."
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205. - Good day.
- Auf Wiedersehen.
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when I called him fat.
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211. Yeah, he understood me.
He's been playing you.
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212. No. No, why... why would he pretend?
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to consider his answers.
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while he understood every word?
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218. Pretty much.
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that you know?
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221. No, no.
No, he's gonna tell me when he's ready.
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222. - When's that?
- When he determines I'm not a threat.
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- Mmm-hmm.
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so complimentary of the Führer
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'cause he was so embarrassed.
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like these other power-hungry men
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234. "I can smell the Jew."
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236. The German Navy's Commander-in-Chief.
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237. Architect of the U-boat attacks
that crippled the British Navy.
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murder of prisoners on the high seas.
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with the arrest of Dönitz,
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241. "I have been
in custody for 76 days.
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242. "I have yet to be formally arrested
or charged with a specific crime,
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of the Geneva Conventions.
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244. "Charge me or release me."
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Hitler's Director of Propaganda.
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anti-Semitic paper,
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and the Beast of Franconia,
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with an iron fist.
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if you're a Jew.
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254. "But you work
in a Jewish profession."
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255. "What do you fight for, Doctor?"
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He binds them all together.
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diet and exercise regimen,
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260. It's almost as if
he's training for something.
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about him, it...
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- Yes.
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- Yes. Get your coat.
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we got locked up in that hotel,
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271. Not even a little.
How'd you learn?
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272. My mother spoke German
and I wanted to be like her.
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It's a natural instinct.
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I get them to trust me.
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apart from all the others?
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to commit the crimes that they did?
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about the work camps for Jews?
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what makes the Germans different.
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could make a lot of money.
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Hermann Göring can't breathe.
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Howie!
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302. Herr.
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303. - Okay, his airway is clear.
- That's good, right?
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304. No, he's having a heart attack.
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Where the hell's
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306. - the prison doctor?
- He's on his way.
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307. All right. Tell him to hurry.
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- Yeah.
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309. - Plain old ordinary aspirin.
- Got it! Got it!
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which means you're alive.
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313. I need you to stay calm, all right?
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Doc's on the way. Aspirin.
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322. Yeah. Hand me a few of those,
will ya? Thank you, Howie.
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In and out. Mm-hmm.
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You're alive. You're alive.
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339. True enough.
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340. Plus, a trial means giving them a chance
to tell their stories to the world.
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the biggest boondoggle of all time.
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- And what if they're sympathetic?
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is provide them with a platform
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- We got the Russians.
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for lead prosecutor.
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I work for the Judge Advocate General.
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362. Yes, sir.
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who says he wants you to know
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the next Chief Justice.
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the seat personally.
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who walks into the office about it, okay?
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there's no way you get the trial.
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each with inkblots,
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what each inkblot makes you see.
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384. Yes.
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if it is of some help.
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386. Only if it makes you comfortable.
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388. "Butterfly."
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389. "Witch."
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390. "Torpedo hit."
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393. I see the Valkyries ride.
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395. "A vagina."
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398. This is blood.
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405. Congress is going to say no to the trial.
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407. - I'm out of moves.
- What about the President?
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408. President wants someone to hide behind,
that's why he needs Congress.
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410. - So you need someone bigger to back it.
- Oh, come on.
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414. - Are you a Catholic?
- I am now.
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416. Hmm.
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on trial for their lives,
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for the Church's blessing in this.
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to building an international consensus.
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where I first read about it.
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in judgement of others,
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outweigh the laws of God.
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from men like the Nazis.
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437. I believe this to be a good act.
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438. One so good you must circumnavigate
your own laws to achieve it?
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439. I'm sorry, but the Catholic Church
cannot support you in this.
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440. But you could support them in 1933.
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441. I'm sorry?
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442. You signed the Concordat
with Hitler yourself.
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443. That was a different matter.
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444. You lived in Munich,
you were the nuncio to the German Empire.
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445. The Catholic Church
was the first world power
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446. to acknowledge the Führer State.
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447. You gave the Nazis credibility.
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448. In order to protect Catholics in Germany.
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449. Isn't it a pity the Jews
didn't have someone to do that for them?
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450. Do you think I condone what they did?
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451. People will remember, sir...
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452. what you did in 1933,
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453. what you do now.
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454. They'll tell their children.
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455. Did the Catholic Church
stand with the Nazis...
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456. or against them?
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457. Did you just blackmail the Pope?
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458. I don't wanna talk about it.
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459. Word came down last night.
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460. There's gonna be a trial.
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461. A trial?
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462. Good. Good.
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463. As it should be.
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464. Those cards that you showed me,
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465. what did they teach you about me?
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466. Honestly, that you are highly intelligent.
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467. Ah...
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468. I could have told you this.
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469. And that you're a narcissist
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470. given to an expansive
and aggressive fantasy life,
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471. with a strong ambition and drive
to subjugate the world
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472. as you find it
to your own pattern of thinking.
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473. And you were surprised by this?
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474. No.
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475. Then the cards have taught you nothing.
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476. Herr Triest, he tells me you do magic.
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477. Sorry.
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478. Yes.
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479. Well, perhaps,
if it's not too much trouble,
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480. we don't get entertainment.
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481. Why not?
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482. Here's an average, ordinary silver dollar.
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483. Ta-da!
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484. Very good.
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485. I will show you a magic trick one day.
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486. What's that?
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487. I am going to escape the hangman's noose.
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488. And how do you plan on doing that?
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489. If I were to tell you,
it would not be a trick.
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490. Nuremberg.
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491. "Do you see
what the Allies are capable of?
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492. "There's nothing left."
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493. "Except that."
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494. Palace of Justice.
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495. The roof's been damaged by the air raids.
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496. Fire gutted the upper floors
and collapsed the clock tower, but...
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497. this courtroom should be able to hold
600 people when it's finished.
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498. What's with all the supplies?
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499. Nazis fought their last stand here
when the city was taken.
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500. And so they will again.
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501. Of all the beautiful cities
in this conquered land,
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502. you want to try them
in this bombed-out husk?
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503. This is Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe,
assistant prosecutor for the British.
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504. Yes, sir, we do.
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505. For one thing, we can control the space.
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506. For another, there's an adjoining prison
with room for up to 1,200 inmates.
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507. We only need space for 22.
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508. I'm sorry. Twenty-two, sir?
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509. That's the number of men
we're indicting for the first trial.
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510. You see, if we don't win that trial,
there won't be any more trials to come.
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511. And you, myself, and Justice Jackson,
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512. and our respective governments
will be the laughingstock of the world,
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513. defeated by the very men we've imprisoned.
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514. So, that will be fun.
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515. My friends in Washington
say opinion's turned against you.
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516. Oh, dear.
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517. There's talk that you won't get
the Chief Justice's seat
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518. when Stone steps down.
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519. Who's Truman gonna pick?
Vinson? Vinson's too political.
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520. Yes, but he's there.
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521. This whole thing's
become a sideshow, Robert.
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522. It hasn't even begun.
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523. They say...
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524. you're writing all the briefs yourself,
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525. refusing help from other lawyers.
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526. Because it has to be done right.
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527. And it will. But you can't do it alone.
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528. Oh, everything will be fine
once we actually get to trial.
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529. You say that as though
trying the Nazi High Command
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530. with untested case law
with the whole world watching
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531. is going to be the easy part.
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532. Well, when you put it like that...
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533. Anything less than total victory
will be considered utter defeat.
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534. Which means,
you don't just have to win, Robert,
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535. you have to be flawless.
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536. No pressure.
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537. I'll have another.
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538. Your cells are made of stone.
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539. 9 feet by 13.
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540. Your beds are bolted to the wall.
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541. Your mattresses stuffed with straw
instead of springs.
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542. Your desks are made of cardboard
and will not support a man's full weight.
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543. Your chairs are never allowed
against any wall,
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544. and will be removed
every night at sundown.
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545. When you sleep,
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546. your head and hands will remain
above your blanket, visible at all times.
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547. You will be given no belts,
you'll be given no shoelaces,
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548. you'll be given no toilet seats,
you will be given nothing
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549. with which to use as a weapon
to take your own lives.
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550. Welcome to Nuremberg.
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551. Now this...
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552. is a cell.
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553. You approve?
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554. German-built.
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555. How could I not?
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556. They will charge us soon, yeah?
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557. You're looking forward to it?
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558. I believe I am.
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559. I will have, as you say,
"my day in court."
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560. Do you know this Jackson?
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561. The Justice Jackson?
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562. No, I do not.
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563. He will try to outwit me...
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564. but he will not succeed.
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565. You're very sure of yourself.
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566. Doctor,
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567. no man has ever beaten me.
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568. There are books filled with the names
of those who have tried.
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569. Yet here you sit.
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570. German-built.
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571. You think I am at some sort
of disadvantage
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572. because I sit in a cell?
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573. I will remind you,
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574. I surrendered.
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575. This is exactly where I desire to be.
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576. Göring remains an enigma to me.
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577. The closer we get to the indictments,
the more confident he becomes.
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578. I need to figure out a way
to get closer to him.
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579. So, how do we do that?
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580. We ask for his help.
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581. With what?
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582. Rudolf Hess.
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583. Rudolf...
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584. Rudolf Hess is coming here?
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585. Rudolf Hess.
Deputy to the Führer.
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586. Third in line for succession,
following Hitler and Göring.
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587. Hess transcribed Mein Kampf for Hitler
while the two were in prison,
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588. and was known as one of his most
fanatical followers.
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589. Sieg Heil!
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590. Never do that
in my prison again.
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591. On May 10, 1941,
at the height of the war,
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592. Hess climbed into
a Messerschmitt fighter plane alone
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593. and flew it over the North Sea.
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594. He bailed out somewhere over Scotland
and broke his ankle upon impact.
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595. Upon his discovery,
he announced that he was Rudolf Hess,
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596. third in line of the German High Command,
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597. and he was here on a mission of peace,
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598. and wanted to speak
with Douglas Douglas-Hamilton,
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599. the 13th Duke of Hamilton
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600. whom Hess had met
at the 1936 Olympic Games in Berlin.
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601. After some obstacles,
Hess was granted his meeting.
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602. There, he announced his intention
to meet with King George VI,
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603. have Winston Churchill fired,
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604. and negotiate a truce with Britain,
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605. allowing the two nations to join forces
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606. and defeat the Soviet Union.
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607. Hess was immediately thrown
into the Tower of London.
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608. There, Hess began claiming
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609. he had no memory of past events,
even his childhood.
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610. This lasted until February, 1945,
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611. when he said his previous amnesia
had been faked.
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612. He then flipped again
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613. and said his amnesia
had returned in July, 1945,
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614. when Germany collapsed.
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615. So, now you have come
to Hermann Göring...
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616. to discredit my old friend.
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617. What would be in this for me?
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618. What do you want?
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619. My wife...
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620. and my daughter.
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621. No one has been able to locate them
since I surrendered.
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622. I need you to find them for me, Doctor.
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623. To give to them these.
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624. Letters.
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625. First, we talk to Hess...
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626. and then your family.
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627. How about that?
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628. So, what, this guy almost
takes over the whole world
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629. and now you want us to do
a mail run for him? Doc!
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630. I'm in deeper with this guy
than anyone's ever been,
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631. and meeting his family
will only tell me more.
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632. So, Rudolf...
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633. do you remember me?
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634. We were together, yes.
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635. That must have been the case.
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636. But I don't remember anyone.
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637. It was the three of us, Rudolf.
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638. You...
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639. and I...
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640. and Adolf.
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641. We ruled an empire.
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642. I'm sorry.
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643. You may well have been a friend...
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644. but I don't know you anymore.
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645. He's lying.
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646. He has just spent an hour to say
he does not remember me.
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647. But when he arrived in the prison
and he saw me...
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648. what did he do?
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649. Salute.
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650. Sieg Heil.
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651. That was very good.
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652. This is dumb.
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653. I'm dumb.
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654. - I knew you'd come through for me.
- Yeah.
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655. 'Cause I'm a dummy.
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656. How'd you find 'em?
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657. Local gossip told me
they're in Veldenstein.
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658. Smoke?
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659. Never see you smoke.
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660. Yeah, I don't. Gave it up.
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661. My parents hated it.
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662. You always got 'em on ya.
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663. It's a trick to get in good
with the officers.
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664. Tell myself I'll have a smoke
when the war is done.
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665. The war is done, Howie.
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666. It's not too much farther.
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667. Franz?
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668. Mrs. Göring?
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669. Mrs. Göring...
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670. my name is Douglas Kelley.
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671. I work at the prison. I'm a psychiatrist.
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672. Your husband asked me
to bring you some letters.
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673. Hermann?
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674. Yes.
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675. - "How is he?"
- He's good.
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676. He's holdin' up.
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677. Edda.
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678. Was that you playing?
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679. It was beautiful.
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680. Uh, she said,
"He's a friend of your father."
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681. Edda...
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682. "How is Papa?"
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683. Ah, he...
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684. He's doing very well.
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685. - "Is he being brave?"
- Very brave.
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686. He wants you to be brave, too.
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687. He wrote you a letter.
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688. Danke.
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689. "She will read it 100 times. Thank you."
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690. Danke.
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691. Doktor!
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692. For Hermann.
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693. I don't know if I can.
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694. Bitte.
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695. Okay.
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696. Come back.
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697. You okay, Doc?
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698. What the hell?
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699. What's goin' on?
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700. Word came down a couple of hours ago.
We're charging the prisoners.
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701. Where have you been?
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702. Hermann Göring?
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703. I am Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring.
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704. Hermann Wilhelm Göring,
you are hereby charged
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705. by the United States of America,
the French Republic,
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706. United Kingdom of Great Britain
and Northern Ireland
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707. and the Union of Soviet Socialist
Republics on the following four counts.
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708. Crimes against Peace, War Crimes,
Crimes against Humanity
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709. and of a Common Plan or Conspiracy
to commit those Crimes.
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710. The Crimes against Humanity
you're accused of include murder,
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711. extermination, enslavement,
deportation, and other inhumane acts.
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712. This is a copy of your indictment.
Do you have any questions?
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713. Nein.
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714. Good day.
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715. Who's next?
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716. Streicher.
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717. Do you have any questions?
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718. What did he say?
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719. He said he wants a Jewish lawyer.
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720. "I'm not going to trial."
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721. You are, Dr. Ley.
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722. "I never killed anyone."
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723. Guards!
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724. It's okay, it's okay.
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725. - Don't touch me.
- It's okay.
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726. - Robert. Robert...
- Don't touch me!
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727. - Whoa, whoa!
- Hold him!
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728. Come on!
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729. Get a hold of him!
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730. Don't try me as a common criminal!
Come on!
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731. Shoot me! Shoot me!
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732. Shoot me!
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733. Rough day?
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734. Lady from the train.
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735. Magic man.
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736. How goes the secret mission?
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737. It's hit a few obstacles.
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738. I can see that.
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739. What are you doing here?
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740. I came in with the press.
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741. Hermann Göring and the Nazis
are being indicted today.
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742. You don't say?
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743. Strap yourself in.
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744. This city is about to become
"The Greatest Show on Earth."
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745. From your wife.
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746. You saw her?
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747. Danke schön, Doctor.
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748. Dateline Nuremberg!
As dark rumors continue to swirl
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749. about the true purpose
of the Nazi work camps,
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750. the legal teams are assembling
for what promises to be
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751. the trial of the century.
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752. Through this tunnel,
the Nazis will be taken to the courtroom,
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753. now being rebuilt for the trial.
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754. There, the film lights will be so bright
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755. that the court-goers
will be provided with sunglasses.
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756. Hermann Göring
and his Hitler-loving cronies
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757. are scheduled to face off
with our boys in one week.
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758. Will justice prevail?
Or will the fascists go free?
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759. This reporter desperately hopes
that the Allies run into no problems.
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760. We have a problem.
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761. Operation Weserübung
was the German invasion of Denmark
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762. and Norway in 1940.
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763. Textbook aggressive war.
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764. The Nazis, they roll tanks in,
they occupy neutral country.
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765. Except they're going to claim
that the invasion was a preemptive strike.
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766. To preempt what?
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767. The British plan to invade Norway.
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768. - Well, that's ridiculous.
- Absolutely ridiculous.
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769. I'm in complete agreement.
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770. It concerns me that you're in this room
right now.
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771. Well, in addition to being ridiculous,
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772. it also happens to be true.
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773. The idea was to use the country
as a staging area to hold the Nazis back.
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774. We can't prosecute the Nazis
for planning aggressive wars
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775. if you guys were planning aggressive wars.
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776. I admit there's a certain logic there.
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777. Can the Nazis prove it?
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778. The German lawyer's
already put in a request for documents,
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779. - but they don't have it. Not yet.
- Then we're in the clear.
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780. Maybe.
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781. But it raises a bigger issue.
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782. We have to know what the Nazis know,
what their defense strategy is.
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783. How exactly do you propose we do that?
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784. Dr. Kelley, you are going to meet
someone very important this evening.
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785. This might actually be your chance
to finally be of some use.
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786. Impressive, right?
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787. Hitler was building it
to be the largest stadium on the planet.
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788. You're Justice Jackson.
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789. And you're the shrink.
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790. This is where they held the rallies.
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791. Every year, Hitler would pack this place,
speak to the Nazi Party as a whole.
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792. They filmed it.
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793. In 1935, this is where he announced
the Nuremberg Laws.
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794. You know the laws?
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795. The Nuremberg Laws defined a Jew
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796. as any person having
three or four Jewish grandparents.
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797. And it didn't matter
if you practiced Judaism,
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798. if you'd converted to Christianity,
this was about blood.
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799. The laws stripped all Jews
of German citizenry.
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800. They made it illegal for Jews and Germans
to marry each other
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801. because of the fear of Rassenschande.
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802. Defilement of the blood.
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803. Under the laws, Jews were prohibited
from using state hospitals,
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804. and not allowed access to public education
beyond the age of 14.
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805. Libraries, parks, and beaches
were closed to Jews.
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806. War memorials
had all Jewish names on them...
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807. expunged.
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808. All of that was announced right here,
on this very ground.
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809. What do you want from me?
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810. Your patients...
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811. I need you to start asking them
the right questions.
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812. What are the right questions?
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813. What they tell their lawyers.
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814. How they plan to defend themselves.
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815. You want me to be a spy.
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816. I want you to do your duty
for your country.
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817. No, you want me to break
doctor-patient confidentiality.
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818. I think you already have, Doctor.
We read every report.
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819. We need more.
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820. Why not just shoot them?
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821. That's what everybody wants.
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822. - I mean, if you're just gonna cheat...
- It's not cheating.
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823. If you're asking me to betray my oath...
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824. why not just shoot them
and be done with it?
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825. After the last Great War,
we made Germany crawl.
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826. We humiliated them.
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827. Made them pay reparations
they couldn't afford.
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828. We made them hate us so much that
in less than two decades,
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829. they went from a broken nation
to near world conquerors.
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830. We have to do this right,
because if we don't...
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831. if 15 years from now,
they come back even stronger...
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832. I don't know if we can beat 'em
a third time.
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833. If we just shoot these men,
we make 'em martyrs.
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834. I'm not gonna allow them that.
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835. There will be no statues of them.
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836. No songs of praise.
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837. I'm gonna put Hermann Göring
on the stand
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838. and I'm gonna make him tell the world
what he did.
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839. So that it can never happen again.
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840. Hmm.
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841. You brought me here because of Göring?
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842. No.
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843. I brought you here to show you
that before the bullets were fired,
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844. before tens of millions of men died...
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845. all of this started with laws.
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846. This war ends in a courtroom.
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847. With Göring.
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848. He's the face of the Nazis now.
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849. As he falls, so do they all.
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850. But if I'm gonna do that, I...
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851. I need to be ready for him.
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852. Will you help me?
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853. Let's talk about Hitler.
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854. It is interesting you have not
asked me this directly before.
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855. I'm curious what the attraction was.
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856. He was a failed painter, right?
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857. Not a very good soldier,
yet he's worshiped and revered.
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858. He made us feel German again.
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859. How?
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860. Well, the war had seen Germany crushed.
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861. And along comes a man who says,
"We can reclaim our former glory."
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862. Would you not follow a man like this?
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863. Depends what else he wanted to do.
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864. The first time I saw Hitler talk,
it was, uh...
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865. 1922.
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866. Upstairs of a coffee shop.
For maybe 30 people.
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867. This was peacetime,
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868. but it was a peace without food,
jobs, shoes.
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869. And he stood up, and he said,
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870. "French bellies are being filled
with German pain."
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871. Then,
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872. "If you make threats,
you need bayonets.
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873. "Rearm! Down with Versailles!"
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874. So, that night,
I became a National Socialist.
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875. Off of... one speech?
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876. Well, I could tell he would appeal
to the old soldiers.
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877. If we have the old soldiers,
we have the manpower.
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878. Even with his anti-Semitism,
it served a practical purpose.
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879. It brought towards us men who needed
something else to focus their emotions.
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880. Something else to blame.
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881. And the camps?
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882. They were to be work camps
for our political opponents, nothing more.
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883. And you signed off on that?
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884. For work camps, yeah.
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885. Do you not think
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886. that the Japanese interned by
the Americans after Pearl Harbor
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887. were not put to work?
Of course, they were.
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888. I made the camps for the good of Germany,
for the war effort.
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889. Not for death.
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890. Himmler, Heydrich.
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891. They were responsible?
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892. If it is true what they say happened
in the camps...
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893. this is a grave blight
on the great German Reich.
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894. Have you told your lawyer about this?
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895. Douglas, I will not stand
against the Führer.
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896. Not even if it could help you?
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897. These are not things people
need to know, Doctor.
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898. Only you.
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899. He can be sympathetic.
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900. It's gonna be a problem for you.
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901. He seriously claims that he thought
they were only work camps?
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902. - That's right.
- You believe him?
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903. Himmler ran the camps, right?
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904. He was the head of the SS.
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905. Göring was the head of the Air Force.
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906. How often in America
does the head of the Air Force know
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907. what the head
of the Secret Service is doing?
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908. I'm sorry, but I cannot believe that
we're having this conversation right now.
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909. - I'm doing what you asked.
- No!
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910. - You're apologizing for him.
- Gentlemen, please.
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911. - I'm not the one defending the Nazi.
- You think I'm defending him?
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912. I am analyzing him, you provincial moron.
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913. Göring is, above all things, a narcissist.
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914. The only thing he cares about is building
Germany up and then becoming her leader.
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915. He does not care about the Jews.
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916. - So, he's fine with them dying.
- And he's fine with them not.
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917. The only thing Hermann Göring cares about
is Hermann Göring.
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918. Does that sound like a man
who dedicates himself
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919. to the extermination of an entire race?
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920. Well, Dr. Kelley, I really appreciate
your thoughtfulness on this,
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921. but I have to admit, it is very hard...
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922. to believe.
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923. You wanna walk into that courtroom
with a handful of assumptions,
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924. fine.
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925. But he will eat you for breakfast.
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926. "I would like to apologize
for my outburst earlier.
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927. "I'm feeling much better."
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928. That's good, Dr. Ley.
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929. "And, you?
Something seems to be troubling you."
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930. I'm fine.
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931. "Don't worry."
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932. "This will all
be over soon."
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933. Ley's mood is markedly improved.
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934. He told us he has begun
making arrangements for his defense.
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935. I feel as though, for the first time,
he's reached out to me.
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936. Oh, shit.
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937. Hurry! Move!
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938. Doc! Come quick!
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939. Jesus!
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940. Ripped out the hem of his towel
to make a rope.
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941. Stuffed his underwear into his mouth
so he wouldn't scream and then...
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942. just leaned forward.
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943. Apparently, with a great deal
of determination.
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944. You didn't see any of this coming?
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945. He told me he was doing better.
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946. "Told you"?
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947. You're supposed to keep them alive.
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948. I'm bringing in another doctor.
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949. It's been determined a second opinion
is required for some of your patients.
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950. Dr. Gilbert arrives this afternoon.
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951. You will brief him.
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952. How do you feel about suicide?
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953. The last refuge of cowards, yeah.
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954. Or the last act of a desperate man?
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955. There are always exceptions, of course.
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956. You are in trouble.
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957. Why would you say that?
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958. New doctor. New tests.
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959. Since Ley died, they no longer trust you.
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960. You're wrong.
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961. Douglas...
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962. when you are in a position of power...
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963. they will always come after you.
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964. You have to protect yourself.
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965. Why would I have to protect myself
from my allies?
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966. Just because a man is your ally
does not mean he is on your side.
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967. My father was a diplomat.
Did I tell you this?
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968. - No.
- Ah.
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969. Yeah.
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970. He was... ... posted to Africa.
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971. And it was there he was
to meet his best friend.
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972. A man named Hermann von Epstein.
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973. I was named after him.
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974. Yeah, I was named for a Jew.
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975. We loved Uncle Hermann so much.
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976. He was very rich.
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977. He lived in Veldenstein Castle.
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978. And when I was six years old,
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979. he moved my entire family in with him.
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980. Can you imagine?
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981. It was a child's dream
to live in such a castle.
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982. I would run down the halls,
pretending I was a knight.
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983. I would stare down from the battlements,
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984. envisioning armies swarming to attack.
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985. Uncle Hermann, he lived in the largest
and most beautiful room on the top floor.
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986. Down the hall, my mother had a bedroom,
also beautiful.
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987. My father...
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988. he lived in a small bedroom
on the ground floor.
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989. And I was to realize
just how rich Uncle Hermann was.
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990. So rich that he could move my family in.
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991. So rich that he could put my father
on the ground floor.
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992. So rich that, whenever he wanted,
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993. he could walk down the hall...
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994. and enjoy my mother.
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995. Just because a man is your ally
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996. does not mean he is on your side.
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997. You found Hermann Göring
to be "imaginative"?
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998. I didn't find him to be that way,
the test did.
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999. Well, that is what
a second opinion is for.
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1000. Which...
brings us to Rudolf Hess.
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1001. I'm inclined to believe
that his amnesia is genuine.
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1002. You mean the part where he forgets
about being a Nazi?
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1003. Okay. Look, Dr. Kelley,
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1004. I'm not here to step on your toes, okay?
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1005. I'll share research. We'll co-author.
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1006. Co-author what?
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1007. You don't have to play coy with me.
We're both here for the same reason.
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1008. Now, two books
about the Nazi High Command,
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1009. that's gonna cut into the market.
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1010. I say we write it together.
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1011. - Hmm?
- Mm-hmm.
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1012. Good luck with your tests.
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1013. Doktor.
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1014. Danke schön.
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1015. She was surprised?
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1016. Oh, she was, uh, astounded.
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1017. Teach me this trick.
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1018. - The coin behind the ear?
- Yeah, yeah.
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1019. Teach me this trick,
so I too can astound her.
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1020. Hmm.
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1021. - I gave my silver dollar to your daughter.
- Ah.
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1022. It's the simplest trick in the world.
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1023. It works because, you know,
people want to believe.
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1024. Well, you hold up the dollar,
and you say,
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1025. "Hey, folks! Here is an ordinary,
average silver dollar."
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1026. Then you put it in your other hand.
All right?
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1027. You focus on it.
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1028. But really, it's right here.
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1029. You palm it in your right hand.
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1030. - Palm it.
- Yeah.
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1031. You keep it between these two fingers...
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1032. and you wrap your palm
around it,
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1033. but you focus on your left hand.
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1034. And you feel the coin in there,
the weight of it. Right?
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1035. And if you believe it,
then they'll believe it.
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1036. And then, you just,
well, you reach behind the ear...
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1037. - Abracadabra!
- Hmm.
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1038. What is "abracadabra"?
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1039. Uh, it's the magic words.
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1040. It, uh, gives the illusion, uh...
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1041. a cosmic weight.
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1042. And it always must be "abracadabra"?
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1043. No, no. It could be anything.
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1044. It could be "presto."
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1045. I think I prefer "abracadabra."
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1046. So, it was your father
who taught you this trick?
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1047. Uh... my father? No.
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1048. You say that like it is unthinkable.
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1049. Yeah, my father was content
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1050. to ply his trade
and display a cheerful disposition.
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1051. He was a man of no accomplishment.
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1052. But you believe...
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1053. you are destined for more.
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1054. You want to be known as a great man.
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1055. Yes.
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1056. And I am your ticket.
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1057. You will return to America
as the great scholar of the Nazis,
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1058. and I will have a trick
to impress my daughter
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1059. when this trial is done.
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1060. You stopped taking me with you to see him.
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1061. Didn't want to bother you so late.
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1062. You've been seeing him a lot without me.
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1063. What're you doing, Doc?
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1064. Trying to learn something.
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1065. You sure that's what this is still about?
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1066. Good night, Howie.
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1067. How are you gonna
defend yourself, Hermann?
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1068. Oh.
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1069. - Would not you like to know?
- I'm serious.
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1070. Are we friends, Doctor?
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1071. I think that word is a little too simple
for what we are.
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1072. But are you asking me this...
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1073. as a friend?
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1074. I am.
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1075. Tomorrow
when I enter my plea,
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1076. I will read a statement.
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1077. I am going to say
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1078. that I assume all responsibility
for my actions.
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1079. I will refuse, however,
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1080. to accept responsibility
for acts committed by others
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1081. that I was unaware of,
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1082. and I would not have approved of.
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1083. What I did...
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1084. I did for my country.
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1085. Tell me you would not do the same
for yours.
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1086. They told me I could find you here.
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1087. In seven hours...
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1088. the whole world is going to be focused
on this room.
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1089. This is it.
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1090. This is everything.
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1091. This is the statement
that Göring plans on reading tomorrow.
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1092. Thank you.
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1093. Atten-hut!
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1094. Let's go.
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1095. Here they come!
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1096. Jesus!
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1097. All rise!
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1098. May it please Your Honors...
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1099. The privilege of opening the first trial
in history
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1100. for crimes against the peace
of the world
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1101. imposes a grave responsibility.
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1102. The wrongs which we seek
to condemn and punish
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1103. have been so calculated...
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1104. so malignant,
and so devastating
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1105. that civilization cannot tolerate
their being ignored,
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1106. because we cannot survive
their being repeated.
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1107. In the prisoners' dock
sit 20-odd broken men.
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1108. We will show them to be living symbols
of racial hatred,
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1109. of terrorism and violence,
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1110. and of the arrogance and cruelty of power.
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1111. Civilization
can afford no compromise
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1112. by dealing ambiguously or indecisively,
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1113. with the men in whom these forces
now precariously survive.
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1114. Wars are no longer local.
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1115. All modern wars become world wars, eventually.
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1116. And none of the big nations can stay out.
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1117. But the ultimate step
in avoiding periodic wars
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1118. in a system of international lawlessness
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1119. is to make statesmen
responsible for the law!
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1120. And let me make clear
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1121. that while this law is first applied
against German aggressors,
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1122. it must condemn aggression
by any other nation
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1123. including those who sit here now,
in judgement.
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1124. We are able to do away
with domestic tyranny
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1125. and violence and aggression
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1126. by those in power against the rights
of their own people...
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1127. only when we make all men
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1128. answerable to the law.
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1129. Hermann Göring.
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1130. The defendants are to plead guilty
or not guilty to the charges against them.
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1131. They will proceed, in turn, to a point
in the dock opposite to the microphone.
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1132. I am Hermann Wilhelm Göring.
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1133. I stand before the Court today...
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1134. and the world...
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1135. and pledge
only to tell...
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1136. The Tribunal
has reached the decision
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1137. that the defendants are not entitled
to make a statement.
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1138. They will be permitted to address
the Court prior to their sentencing.
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1139. As Reichsmarschall of Germany...
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1140. You are not Reichsmarschall here.
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1141. You are only Hermann Göring, the prisoner.
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1142. Do you plead guilty or not guilty?
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1143. Emmy!
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1144. Edda!
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1145. Emmy!
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1146. What happened? What happened?
Where are they?
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1147. What? Where are they?
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1148. - They took them!
- Who?
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1149. Americans!
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1150. Emmy!
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1151. Emmy! Edda!
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1152. Emmy. Edda.
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1153. Emmy! Emmy Göring!
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1154. Yeah?
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1155. I need a favor.
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1156. You gotta be shitting me.
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1157. Thanks. I'm gonna need it.
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1158. They've arrested Emmy Göring
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1159. on suspicion of complicity
with her husband's art thefts.
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1160. Kid goes to the nuns. No contact allowed.
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1161. They're women and children.
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1162. Yeah.
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1163. Sir, we're supposed to be
better than this.
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1164. It's out of my hands!
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1165. And you're welcome.
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1166. By the way,
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1167. how did you know where she was hiding?
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1168. Did Edda play for you again?
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1169. - She did.
- Ah.
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1170. She's very talented.
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1171. She likes you.
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1172. Do you have their letters?
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1173. No.
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1174. No letters, unfortunately.
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1175. No?
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1176. Next time.
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1177. And here's my new doctor.
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1178. We were just talking about my family.
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1179. Ah, yes. Well, I was sorry
to hear about that.
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1180. About what?
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1181. Their arrest.
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1182. Your wife and daughter were arrested
five days ago.
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1183. He didn't tell you?
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1184. Hey.
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1185. Hey! What the hell was that?
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1186. That was me being honest with my patient,
something you oughta try sometime.
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1187. You destroyed him in there.
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1188. So?
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1189. What the hell is wrong with you?
What's wrong with you, hmm?
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1190. Hey, stop!
Hey, stop!
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1191. Jesus Christ.
You're mental health professionals!
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1192. For Christ's sake!
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1193. Dr. Gilbert, would you like me to place
Dr. Kelley under arrest?
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1194. - No, sir.
- Then get out of my goddamn office!
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1195. Cinema.
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1196. All rise!
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1197. May it please the Court,
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1198. the prosecution would now like to enter
into evidence the following film footage.
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1199. The images you are about to see have
never before been shown in public.
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1200. This film should offer a brief explanation
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1201. of what the words
"concentration camp" implied.
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1202. These are the locations of
the largest concentration and prison camps
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1203. maintained throughout Germany
and occupied Europe under the Nazi regime.
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1204. The 4th Armored Division
of General Patton's Third Army
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1205. liberated this camp early in April.
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1206. They see the woodshed where
lime-covered bodies are stacked in layers
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1207. and the stench is overpowering.
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1208. Slave labor camp at Nordhausen
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1209. liberated by the 3rd Armored Division,
First Army.
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1210. At least 3,000 political prisoners
died here
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1211. at the brutal hands of SS troops
and pardoned German criminals
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1212. who were the camp guard.
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1213. Nordhausen had been a depository
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1214. for slaves found unfit for work
in the underground V-bomb plants
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1215. and in other German camps and factories.
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1216. Amid the corpses are human skeletons
too weak to move.
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1217. Men of our medical battalions
worked two days and nights
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1218. binding wounds and giving medications.
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1219. But for advanced cases
of starvation and tuberculosis,
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1220. there were often no cures.
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1221. The survivors are shown being evacuated
for treatment in Allied hospitals.
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1222. I'm Lieutenant Senior Grade
Jack H. Taylor, US Navy,
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1223. from Hollywood, California.
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1224. Believe it or not, this is the first time
I've ever been in the movies.
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1225. I was captured December 1st.
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1226. I was taken to this
Mauthausen Concentration Lager,
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1227. an extermination camp,
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1228. where we have been starving
and... and beaten and killed.
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1229. Uh, fortunately, my turn hadn't come.
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1230. Uh... there were...
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1231. How many ways
do they execute?
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1232. Five or six ways.
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1233. By gas, by shooting, by beating.
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1234. That is, beating with clubs.
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1235. Uh...
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1236. By exposure.
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1237. That is, standing out in the snow
naked for 48 hours
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1238. and having cold water thrown on them
in the middle of winter.
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1239. Starvation.
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1240. Dogs.
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1241. And pushing over a 100-foot cliff.
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1242. This is all true, has been seen,
and is now being recorded.
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1243. Nationalities and prison numbers
are tattooed
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1244. on the stomachs of the inmates.
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1245. In the official report,
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1246. the Buchenwald camp is termed
an extermination factory.
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1247. Bodies stacked one upon the other
were found outside the crematory.
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1248. A body disposal plant.
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1249. Inside are the ovens
which gave the crematorium
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1250. a maximum disposal capacity
of about 400 bodies per 10-hour day.
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1251. Dachau, near München,
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1252. one of the oldest
of the Nazi prison camps.
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1253. This is what the liberators found
inside the buildings.
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1254. Hanging in orderly rows
were the clothes of prisoners
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1255. who had been suffocated
in a lethal gas chamber.
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1256. They had been persuaded
to remove their clothing
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1257. under the pretext of taking a shower,
for which towels and soap were provided.
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1258. Sanitary conditions were so appalling
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1259. that heavy equipment had to be brought in
to speed the work of cleaning up.
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1260. This was Bergen-Belsen.
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1261. How's that possible?
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1262. What I just saw.
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1263. How is it possible?
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1264. Himmler.
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1265. Himmler wasn't second-in-command.
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1266. You were.
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1267. 1,200 camps?
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1268. No. What am I supposed to believe,
that you didn't know?
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1269. Anyone can fake an atrocity.
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1270. So, you're saying the film was a fake.
That's your defense?
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1271. What would you have me say?
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1272. How about the truth for once?
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1273. Why?
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1274. So you can run and tell Jackson?
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1275. My friend,
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1276. your hypocrisy is stunning.
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1277. My hypocrisy?
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1278. You think American bullets and bombs
don't kill people?
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1279. You vaporize 150,000 Japanese
at the touch of a button,
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1280. and you presume to stand in judgement
on me for war crimes?
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1281. We had every right to defend ourselves.
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1282. How do you defend yourself
on someone else's soil?
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1283. There's a difference
between us bombing war factories
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1284. and civilians dying as collateral damage,
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1285. and you building
1,200 human slaughterhouses
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1286. designed to exterminate an entire race,
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1287. and you know it!
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1288. What do you think war is?
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1289. Not what I saw today.
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1290. What do you think the Russians do
to German prisoners of war?
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1291. You have your freedom,
and I am a prisoner
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1292. because you won, and we lost.
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1293. Not because you are morally superior!
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1294. This trial will be a farce in 15 years.
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1295. Great conquerors are not thought of
as murderers.
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1296. Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great...
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1297. You are not Alexander the Great!
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1298. You are a fat man in a cell.
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1299. And you knew.
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1300. Hmm.
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1301. I have made a mistake.
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1302. You are not destined for more.
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1303. You will have an unhappy life, I think.
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1304. It will all be overshadowed by this,
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1305. by the time spent with me.
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1306. You will write your volumes,
try to re-live it.
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1307. The one moment in your life
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1308. when you actually stood with greatness.
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1309. You think you're a great man?
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1310. You think that's your legacy?
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1311. At least I will have one.
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1312. You will leave no mark on this world.
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1313. I am the book!
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1314. You are merely a footnote.
Copy !req
1315. They are gonna kill you.
Copy !req
1316. They are gonna hang you
Copy !req
1317. by the neck till you piss yourself...
Copy !req
1318. and die.
Copy !req
1319. Your wife will be a widow.
Copy !req
1320. Your daughter will be an orphan.
Copy !req
1321. And you will have done that to yourself.
Copy !req
1322. I know who you are.
Copy !req
1323. What's he like?
Copy !req
1324. You don't wanna know.
Copy !req
1325. Jackson's putting him on the stand
day after tomorrow.
Copy !req
1326. Hmm.
Copy !req
1327. Jackson's gonna get killed.
Copy !req
1328. Why do you say that?
Copy !req
1329. Because Göring is ready for him.
Copy !req
1330. He was ready for all of us.
Copy !req
1331. Why don't you tell me all about it?
Copy !req
1332. Look at that.
Copy !req
1333. Your private conversations
with Hermann Göring made the front page.
Copy !req
1334. - Sir, I...
- You're finished.
Copy !req
1335. I signed your transfer order this morning.
Copy !req
1336. You're to be sent back to the States
where you'll be discharged.
Copy !req
1337. You have embarrassed me and this office
for the last time.
Copy !req
1338. I'm sorry, Colonel.
Copy !req
1339. You deserved better.
Copy !req
1340. Yes, I did.
Copy !req
1341. And just so you know, we are releasing
Göring's wife and daughter.
Copy !req
1342. You were right. We are better than that.
Copy !req
1343. - Thank you, sir.
- Your train's at five o'clock.
Copy !req
1344. Don't take this the wrong way,
but I never wanna see you again.
Copy !req
1345. Came to say goodbye?
Copy !req
1346. Did you really mean it
when you said Jackson had no chance?
Copy !req
1347. Sure.
Copy !req
1348. It's all just a big show
for the cameras anyway.
Copy !req
1349. So, it doesn't matter
what happens tomorrow.
Copy !req
1350. If Göring beats Jackson, so be it.
Copy !req
1351. Yeah, I don't believe that.
Copy !req
1352. Neither do you.
Copy !req
1353. You know more about him
than anybody on earth.
Copy !req
1354. Yeah, that's right. I do.
Copy !req
1355. I spent thousands of hours with him.
I run hundreds of tests.
Copy !req
1356. You know what sets him apart from us?
Copy !req
1357. Nothing.
Copy !req
1358. I know.
Copy !req
1359. You know?
Copy !req
1360. 'Cause I'm one of 'em.
Copy !req
1361. What are you talking about?
Copy !req
1362. I'm German, Doc.
Copy !req
1363. I grew up in Munich.
Copy !req
1364. You grew up in Detroit.
You said your mom spoke German.
Copy !req
1365. She did. So did my father.
Copy !req
1366. 'Cause I was raised here.
Copy !req
1367. You're an American soldier.
Copy !req
1368. Why'd you leave?
Copy !req
1369. Why do you think?
Copy !req
1370. You're a Jew.
Copy !req
1371. You know, with the blonde hair
and the blue eyes,
Copy !req
1372. I never got hassled much.
Copy !req
1373. My father was a patriot who fought
for Germany in the First World War.
Copy !req
1374. We loved this country.
Copy !req
1375. Eventually, he realized we had to get out.
Copy !req
1376. How'd you do it?
Copy !req
1377. The problem was getting travel visas.
Copy !req
1378. Other countries wouldn't take us.
Copy !req
1379. My dad had a cousin in New York
who helped.
Copy !req
1380. We finally got our exit visas in 1940.
Copy !req
1381. But we only had enough money
for one ticket out.
Copy !req
1382. My little sister Margot...
Copy !req
1383. she was only 11, so,
Copy !req
1384. my parents didn't want her
traveling alone.
Copy !req
1385. So they sent me.
Copy !req
1386. Boy, I was seasick the whole way.
Copy !req
1387. When I landed, I stayed with my cousin.
Copy !req
1388. And the Nazis invaded Holland.
Copy !req
1389. My family never showed up.
Copy !req
1390. That's when I went to Detroit.
Copy !req
1391. Got a job as an apprentice
in a tool factory.
Copy !req
1392. Learned English listenin' to baseball
on the radio.
Copy !req
1393. When Pearl Harbor happened...
Copy !req
1394. I was the first one
at the recruitment office to enlist.
Copy !req
1395. You know what they said?
Copy !req
1396. They couldn't take me
'cause I wasn't an American citizen.
Copy !req
1397. I'd have to wait to get drafted.
Copy !req
1398. So I did.
Copy !req
1399. I waited, and I waited,
Copy !req
1400. and I checked the mailbox every day
for two years.
Copy !req
1401. June 6, 1944...
Copy !req
1402. landed at Omaha Beach on D-Day.
Copy !req
1403. Four years earlier...
Copy !req
1404. I left this country scared and alone
in the middle of the night.
Copy !req
1405. But I came back with a goddamn army.
Copy !req
1406. I found Margot.
Copy !req
1407. She's in Switzerland.
Copy !req
1408. She's 16 now. She's living with relatives.
Copy !req
1409. She's good.
Copy !req
1410. She made it.
Copy !req
1411. And your folks?
Copy !req
1412. Records show that my parents
arrived at Auschwitz,
Copy !req
1413. August 12, 1942.
Copy !req
1414. Camp was liberated January 27, 1945.
Copy !req
1415. No sign of 'em.
Copy !req
1416. The Nazis had a name
for what they did to us.
Copy !req
1417. "The Final Solution."
Copy !req
1418. Like we were...
Copy !req
1419. just some kinda nagging puzzle
Copy !req
1420. that they finally figured out
how to solve.
Copy !req
1421. So sorry, Howie.
Copy !req
1422. I'm gonna tell Streicher.
Copy !req
1423. I'm gonna tell him.
Copy !req
1424. Right before they put
that rope around his neck,
Copy !req
1425. I'm gonna tell that piece of shit
that he was confiding in a Jew.
Copy !req
1426. You say it doesn't matter
what happens tomorrow.
Copy !req
1427. It matters.
Copy !req
1428. More than you know.
Copy !req
1429. Matters to me.
Copy !req
1430. To my family.
Copy !req
1431. To all of Germany.
Copy !req
1432. Göring has to fall.
Copy !req
1433. If you think he's gonna beat Jackson...
Copy !req
1434. Doc, please just do something about it.
Copy !req
1435. I can't.
Copy !req
1436. You can't?
Copy !req
1437. I'm just a shrink.
Copy !req
1438. You wanna know
why it happened here?
Copy !req
1439. 'Cause people let it happen.
Copy !req
1440. 'Cause they didn't stand up
until it was too late.
Copy !req
1441. Have a safe trip home, Doc.
Copy !req
1442. Yes, sir. Of course.
Copy !req
1443. No. I... I completely understand.
Copy !req
1444. Thank you.
Copy !req
1445. Son of a gun.
Copy !req
1446. Truman just named Frederick Vinson
Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
Copy !req
1447. Oh.
Copy !req
1448. Ah, I didn't want the job anyway.
Copy !req
1449. Who would?
Copy !req
1450. Bottoms up.
Copy !req
1451. You're walking into a trap.
Copy !req
1452. Dr. Kelley, I was under the impression
you'd been relieved.
Copy !req
1453. Putting Göring on the stand
gives him everything he wants.
Copy !req
1454. It's why he surrendered
in the first place.
Copy !req
1455. His last chance to redeem the Reich
on the world stage.
Copy !req
1456. After what I read
in the paper this morning,
Copy !req
1457. I don't believe
I care what you think anymore.
Copy !req
1458. - You can't beat him!
- Guards!
Copy !req
1459. Not without help.
Copy !req
1460. This is everything I have on him.
Copy !req
1461. Private files, off-the-book conversations.
Copy !req
1462. I know more about this man
than anyone else on the planet
Copy !req
1463. and it's all in here.
Copy !req
1464. Why do you have this?
Copy !req
1465. I was gonna write a book.
Copy !req
1466. Make something of myself, yeah.
Copy !req
1467. Mmm.
Copy !req
1468. It's okay.
Copy !req
1469. So, you really think I can't beat him?
Copy !req
1470. Honestly?
Copy !req
1471. I don't know.
Copy !req
1472. You know, I was gonna be Chief Justice.
Copy !req
1473. Now I'll be lucky if there's a place
on the Court for me when I return.
Copy !req
1474. As of six hours ago,
I was discharged from the army.
Copy !req
1475. There's nothing left for us to do, sir.
Copy !req
1476. Might as well go finish the war.
Copy !req
1477. Mmm-hmm.
Copy !req
1478. The trick is to use
his vanity against him.
Copy !req
1479. He is the Reichsmarschall.
Copy !req
1480. And the Reichsmarschall is never wrong.
Copy !req
1481. He can't be.
Copy !req
1482. Every decision that's led him
to this place has to be the right one.
Copy !req
1483. So, as much as he won't wanna
talk about the camps
Copy !req
1484. and the SS and the Final Solution,
Copy !req
1485. you can make him own them.
Copy !req
1486. Kelley's right.
Copy !req
1487. Get him to admit to signing those orders,
Copy !req
1488. and you'll have him.
Copy !req
1489. I'll have him.
Copy !req
1490. This is your day.
Copy !req
1491. You're ready.
Copy !req
1492. Sergeant, what is Doug Kelley
still doing here?
Copy !req
1493. No idea, sir.
Copy !req
1494. All rise!
Copy !req
1495. Justice Jackson, are you ready?
Copy !req
1496. The prosecution now calls
Hermann Göring to the stand.
Copy !req
1497. For the record, is there any doubt
in your mind that Adolf Hitler is dead?
Copy !req
1498. I have no doubt.
Copy !req
1499. So, you are aware that this makes you
the only living man
Copy !req
1500. who can expound to us the true purposes
of the Nazi Party
Copy !req
1501. and the inner workings of its leadership?
Copy !req
1502. I am perfectly aware of this, yeah.
Copy !req
1503. Mmm-hmm.
Copy !req
1504. Your party, from the very beginning,
intended to overthrow the Weimar Republic?
Copy !req
1505. That was our firm intention.
Copy !req
1506. What the hell?
Copy !req
1507. And upon coming to power,
Copy !req
1508. you immediately abolished
parliamentary government in Germany?
Copy !req
1509. We found it to be no longer necessary.
Copy !req
1510. Is that because you believed people
are not capable of self-government?
Copy !req
1511. We were elected by the people
and given a mandate for change.
Copy !req
1512. The system
that had previously existed
Copy !req
1513. had brought Germany to the verge of ruin.
Copy !req
1514. Your own President Roosevelt said,
Copy !req
1515. "There are certain peoples in Europe
who have forsaken democracy
Copy !req
1516. "not because they did not wish for it,
Copy !req
1517. "but because democracy had brought forth
men who were too weak."
Copy !req
1518. Get to war crimes.
Copy !req
1519. After you came to power,
Copy !req
1520. you regarded it necessary to suppress
all opposition parties, correct?
Copy !req
1521. We found it necessary
to no longer permit opposition, yeah.
Copy !req
1522. And you also considered it
immediately necessary
Copy !req
1523. to establish concentration camps?
Copy !req
1524. The camps were set up as a measure
against the Communists
Copy !req
1525. and their violence.
Copy !req
1526. So, it was necessary
to erect a camp for them.
Copy !req
1527. One, two, or three camps,
something like this.
Copy !req
1528. You also had to have certain groups
Copy !req
1529. to carry out orders
and fight for you if necessary, right?
Copy !req
1530. Certain groups?
Copy !req
1531. Well, for example,
if you wanted certain people killed,
Copy !req
1532. you had to have some organization
that would kill them.
Copy !req
1533. Yeah, Germany had this level
of political police
Copy !req
1534. as you would find in any other country.
Copy !req
1535. And the SA and the SS
Copy !req
1536. were the organizations
that carried out these orders
Copy !req
1537. and dealt with people on a physical level,
were they not?
Copy !req
1538. The SA never received orders
to kill anybody.
Copy !req
1539. Neither did the SS. Not in my time.
Copy !req
1540. Beyond a certain point,
I had no influence on it.
Copy !req
1541. Well, the SS carried out arrests.
Copy !req
1542. They handled the transportation of people
to the concentration camps.
Copy !req
1543. Can you not recall a time
Copy !req
1544. when the SS began to perform the function
Copy !req
1545. of acting as the executor
of the Nazi Party?
Copy !req
1546. It would be very difficult for me
to explain to an outsider
Copy !req
1547. where the SS or where the Gestapo
may or may not be active.
Copy !req
1548. Try.
Copy !req
1549. Well, perhaps, as the police came more
and more into the hands of Himmler,
Copy !req
1550. expectations may have changed.
Copy !req
1551. And, of course, it is well-known
that some SS units
Copy !req
1552. were guarding the camps, and later,
performed some police functions.
Copy !req
1553. And carried out other functions
in the camps?
Copy !req
1554. To what functions do you refer?
Copy !req
1555. They carried out all of the functions
of the camps, didn't they?
Copy !req
1556. If an SS unit was guarding a camp
Copy !req
1557. and an SS leader was the camp commandant,
Copy !req
1558. then it is rational to assume
Copy !req
1559. that they would have carried out
all of the functions of the camp.
Copy !req
1560. Bury him.
Copy !req
1561. You have said that you wanted
a strong German State
Copy !req
1562. to overcome the conditions of Versailles,
is that correct?
Copy !req
1563. We wanted a strong German State,
regardless of Versailles.
Copy !req
1564. The first country to be absorbed
by Germany was Austria
Copy !req
1565. but it had not been part of Germany
before the First World War
Copy !req
1566. and it had not been taken from Germany
Copy !req
1567. by the Treaty of Versailles,
is that correct?
Copy !req
1568. That is not entirely correct, no.
Copy !req
1569. The second territory taken
by Germany was Bohemia,
Copy !req
1570. then Moravia, and then Slovakia.
Copy !req
1571. These were not taken from Germany
by the Treaty of Versailles
Copy !req
1572. nor had they been part of Germany
before the First World War, had they?
Copy !req
1573. These parts of Czech territory
Copy !req
1574. were not parts of the smaller German Reich
at the time of the Treaty of Versailles.
Copy !req
1575. However, formerly,
Copy !req
1576. they were united to the German Reich...
Copy !req
1577. for hundreds of years.
Copy !req
1578. You still have not answered my question.
Copy !req
1579. I have answered your question.
Copy !req
1580. If the facts do not suit you,
there's very little I can do.
Copy !req
1581. Can you not answer "yes" or "no"?
Copy !req
1582. Time may not mean quite as much to you
as it does to the rest of us.
Copy !req
1583. Mr. Justice, the Tribunal thinks
the witness ought to be allowed
Copy !req
1584. to make what explanations he thinks right.
Copy !req
1585. I trust that the Court is not unaware
that outside of this courtroom
Copy !req
1586. is a great social question
regarding the revival of Nazism,
Copy !req
1587. and that one of the purposes
Copy !req
1588. of defendant Göring
Copy !req
1589. is to encourage and perpetuate it
Copy !req
1590. by propaganda from this trial
now in process.
Copy !req
1591. - Mr. Justice...
- This witness has adopted
Copy !req
1592. in the witness box and the prisoner's dock
Copy !req
1593. an arrogant and contemptuous attitude
towards this Tribunal
Copy !req
1594. which is giving him
the opportunity of a trial,
Copy !req
1595. which he never gave a living soul!
Copy !req
1596. The ruling stands, Mr. Justice.
Copy !req
1597. I must, of course,
bow to the ruling of the Tribunal,
Copy !req
1598. and would simply request that the witness
find a way to keep his answers succinct.
Copy !req
1599. Could you please repeat the question?
Copy !req
1600. They were not taken from you
Copy !req
1601. - by the Treaty of Versailles, were they?
- Of course,
Copy !req
1602. Austria was taken
by the Versailles Treaty,
Copy !req
1603. and was too Sudetenland.
Copy !req
1604. For both these territories
would have been German territories
Copy !req
1605. through the simple right of the people
Copy !req
1606. to self-determination.
Copy !req
1607. Now, I find that interesting
Copy !req
1608. considering you just testified
that people's self-determination
Copy !req
1609. was the first thing you took away.
Copy !req
1610. From the very beginning,
Copy !req
1611. you regarded the elimination of Jews
from the economic life of Germany
Copy !req
1612. as one phase of the Four-Year Plan
under your jurisdiction, is that correct?
Copy !req
1613. - Partially correct.
- "Partially."
Copy !req
1614. I see.
Copy !req
1615. I would like to review with you briefly,
Copy !req
1616. public acts taken by you
in reference to the Jewish question.
Copy !req
1617. First, did you proclaim
the Nuremberg Laws?
Copy !req
1618. Yeah, I did.
Copy !req
1619. As President of the Reichstag,
that was my job.
Copy !req
1620. What date was that?
Copy !req
1621. 15th of September, 1935.
Copy !req
1622. Then on the first day of December 1936,
Copy !req
1623. you passed an act
making it a death penalty for Germans
Copy !req
1624. to transfer property abroad?
Copy !req
1625. That is correct.
Copy !req
1626. That was the "Decree Governing Restriction
on Foreign Currency."
Copy !req
1627. Then, on April 22, 1938,
you published penalties
Copy !req
1628. for concealing the character
of a Jewish enterprise within the Reich.
Copy !req
1629. "Concealing," yeah.
Copy !req
1630. Then, on April 26, 1938,
you signed a decree
Copy !req
1631. ordering the registration of all Jewish
property inside and outside of Germany.
Copy !req
1632. - If it is signed by me...
- Then a decree on November 12, 1938,
Copy !req
1633. imposing a fine of one billion Reichsmarks
for atonement on all Jews.
Copy !req
1634. - Yeah, but that is...
- And that all damages
Copy !req
1635. caused to Jewish property
by the riots of 1938
Copy !req
1636. must be repaired by Jews immediately
at their own expense,
Copy !req
1637. and their insurance claims
forfeited to the Reich.
Copy !req
1638. There are many details here.
Copy !req
1639. - The insurance...
- And a decree
Copy !req
1640. on the 17th of September, 1940,
Copy !req
1641. ordering the sequestration
of all Jewish property in Poland.
Copy !req
1642. Yeah. In that part of Poland,
it was a former German province
Copy !req
1643. - And on July 31, 1941...
- ... and would return to Germany.
Copy !req
1644. a decree asking Himmler and Heydrich
Copy !req
1645. to make plans for the Final Solution
of the Jewish question.
Copy !req
1646. That is not correct.
Copy !req
1647. I know that decree very well.
Copy !req
1648. I ask to have you shown Document 710,
Copy !req
1649. exhibit number USA-509.
Copy !req
1650. I think it should be read into the record
Copy !req
1651. so we may have no argument
about its translation.
Copy !req
1652. Danke schön.
Copy !req
1653. That document
is signed by you, is it not?
Copy !req
1654. That is correct.
Copy !req
1655. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Copy !req
1656. "Supplementing the task
that was assigned to you on 1-24-1939
Copy !req
1657. "which dealt with arriving at...
Copy !req
1658. "through furtherance of emigration
and evacuation
Copy !req
1659. "a solution of the Jewish problem,
as advantageous as possible,
Copy !req
1660. "I hereby charge you with making
all necessary preparations
Copy !req
1661. "in regards to organizational
Copy !req
1662. "and financial matters
for bringing about...
Copy !req
1663. "a final solution of the Jewish question."
Copy !req
1664. He's got him.
Copy !req
1665. Am I correct so far?
Copy !req
1666. No. Your translation is not correct.
Copy !req
1667. Then, please, give us your translation.
Copy !req
1668. "Supplementing the task
which was entrusted to you
Copy !req
1669. "in the decree dated January 24, 1939,
Copy !req
1670. "to solve the Jewish question
by emigration and evacuation
Copy !req
1671. "in the most favorable way possible.
Copy !req
1672. "Given present conditions,
I herewith commission you
Copy !req
1673. "to carry out all necessary preparations
Copy !req
1674. "with regard to organizational,
substantive, and financial viewpoints."
Copy !req
1675. Now, here is...
Copy !req
1676. the sentence.
Copy !req
1677. "For a complete solution,"
Copy !req
1678. not "a final solution."
Copy !req
1679. "For a total solution
of the Jewish question."
Copy !req
1680. "A complete and total solution"?
Copy !req
1681. Complete and total, yeah.
Copy !req
1682. A complete and total solution
you wanted the Chief of the SS to enact?
Copy !req
1683. Yeah, but I would like to make
an explanation.
Copy !req
1684. Oh, please do.
Copy !req
1685. I sent this letter
to Himmler and to Heydrich
Copy !req
1686. because it was some 18 months now
Copy !req
1687. since the declaration
of 24th of January, 1939.
Copy !req
1688. And Heydrich had achieved very little,
Copy !req
1689. so, I charged him to accelerate the task
Copy !req
1690. of dealing with the emigration
of the Jews.
Copy !req
1691. "Emigration"? You contend
this letter was about emigration?
Copy !req
1692. It says so in the first line.
Copy !req
1693. That's just the first sentence.
Copy !req
1694. The letter goes on to state...
Copy !req
1695. My desire...
Copy !req
1696. for a complete solution
to the Jewish problem,
Copy !req
1697. and an end to their financial influence
Copy !req
1698. by their emigration and evacuation
from Germany.
Copy !req
1699. It is in this document
that you presented to me.
Copy !req
1700. Do you have
any more questions for the witness,
Copy !req
1701. Justice Jackson?
Copy !req
1702. Mr. Justice, is the witness excused?
Copy !req
1703. I have a question.
Copy !req
1704. Uh, the Tribunal was under the impression
Copy !req
1705. the American prosecutor would be examining
this witness today.
Copy !req
1706. Uh, the United States
is always happy to hear
Copy !req
1707. from our distinguished colleague
from Great Britain.
Copy !req
1708. Just a few simple queries,
Your Honors.
Copy !req
1709. Won't take more than a moment.
Copy !req
1710. You've implied to this Court
that you lost some influence
Copy !req
1711. with Adolf Hitler in 1942,
is that correct?
Copy !req
1712. I believe this to be the case, yeah.
Copy !req
1713. But you were still
Reichsmarschall of Germany in 1942,
Copy !req
1714. Hitler's successor, yes?
Copy !req
1715. Yeah, I was the Reichsmarschall.
Copy !req
1716. And you're telling me
that you were totally unaware
Copy !req
1717. three million Jews were murdered in 1942?
Copy !req
1718. I was unaware of this.
Copy !req
1719. In 1943, at least 800,000 Jews
Copy !req
1720. were executed in the camps.
Copy !req
1721. You were still Reichsmarschall in 1943,
is that correct?
Copy !req
1722. - That is correct.
- Hmm.
Copy !req
1723. In 1944, an additional 800,000 Jews
died in the camps.
Copy !req
1724. You were still Reichsmarschall in 1944,
is that correct?
Copy !req
1725. That is correct.
Copy !req
1726. In 1945, 250,000,
Copy !req
1727. an estimated six million Jews in total,
Copy !req
1728. as well as Soviet and Polish citizens,
Copy !req
1729. Romani people, artists, scientists,
Copy !req
1730. writers, journalists,
photographers, filmmakers,
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1731. people killed, not in combat,
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1732. not in enemy fire,
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1733. but exterminated by the state of Germany,
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1734. the State which you
were the Reichsmarschall of,
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1735. the pre-eminent political post
of your country,
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1736. and you contend that you had no knowledge.
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1737. At least give me this.
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1738. Knowing what we know now,
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1739. knowing what happened to six million Jews,
I have to ask...
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1740. Would you still follow
the Führer, Adolf Hitler?
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1741. Yeah...
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1742. I would.
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1743. Order! Order!
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1744. Heil Hitler.
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1745. No further questions.
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1746. I think
this as good a place as any
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1747. to adjourn for the day.
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1748. Fought brilliant.
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1749. Absolutely brilliant.
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1750. - I survived.
- You did it.
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1751. You were right.
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1752. I couldn't beat him.
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1753. Not without help.
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1754. "Göring cannot stand against the Führer."
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1755. - Invaluable information, Doctor.
- Hmm.
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1756. So, what now?
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1757. As Göring falls, so do they all.
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1758. We'll be okay.
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1759. Here.
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1760. You off?
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1761. Uh, one more thing I have to do.
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1762. Doktor.
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1763. You helped them, didn't you?
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1764. I did.
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1765. I'm leaving.
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1766. Leaving?
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1767. Going home.
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1768. I've come to say goodbye.
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1769. What do we do now, Doctor?
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1770. Do we shake hands?
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1771. I know we were friends, Douglas...
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1772. for a while.
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1773. Goodbye, Hermann.
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1774. Years from now...
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1775. I wonder what you will say about us.
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1776. Will you even acknowledge we were human?
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1777. The judgement
of the International Military Tribunal
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1778. will now be read.
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1779. Each defendant will be addressed in turn.
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1780. Hermann Göring,
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1781. the evidence shows that, after Hitler,
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1782. you were the most prominent man
in the Nazi regime.
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1783. Your guilt is unique in its enormity.
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1784. Your record discloses no excuses.
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1785. The International Military Tribunal
sentences you
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1786. to death by hanging.
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1787. Rudolf Hess.
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1788. You are indicted on all four counts.
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1789. The executions are scheduled
for midnight tonight.
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1790. In order to maintain discipline,
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1791. the prisoners will not be informed
until 11:45 p.m.
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1792. when they will be awakened in their cells
and offered last rites.
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1793. At 8:00 p.m., eight hand-picked
journalists will arrive at the prison.
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1794. Two French, two British,
two American, two Russian.
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1795. Lights out is at 9:30,
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1796. which is when the doctor
will do his normal final rounds.
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1797. Any prisoner requesting a sleep aid
will be given a placebo with baking soda.
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1798. At ten o'clock,
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1799. we will bring the press
down to the gallows
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1800. where I will brief them
on the final preparations for tonight.
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1801. Nein.
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1802. Abracadabra.
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1803. The prisoners will be brought in
one-by-one,
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1804. and given the opportunity
to speak their last words.
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1805. They will then...
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1806. Excuse me.
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1807. - Who is it?
- Göring, sir.
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1808. Shit.
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1809. No, no. No. No!
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1810. No, you son of a bitch!
You don't get to do this.
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1811. He's dead, sir. Cyanide.
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1812. God damn it!
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1813. Oh, you son of a bitch.
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1814. I'm sorry, sir,
but we have a decision to make.
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1815. We can either scrub the executions
for tonight or proceed.
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1816. Let's just get on with it.
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1817. Sir. Uh, Streicher's refusing
to put his clothes on.
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1818. - Let him go. Let him go!
- But, sir...
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1819. Julius.
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1820. Julius.
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1821. You...
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1822. You have been a friend.
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1823. Come on.
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1824. Let's do it together.
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1825. Come on.
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1826. Give me his shirt.
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1827. Ask him his name.
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1828. You know my name.
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1829. Any last words?
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1830. Purim Feast, 1946!
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1831. [SOFTLY, IN ENGLISH] Shit.
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1832. Son of a bitch.
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1833. He escaped.
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1834. I have to be honest,
Dr. Kelley,
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1835. I find some of the conclusions
in your book quite unbelievable.
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1836. You were dealing with the Nazis,
who you must admit are a unique people.
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1837. They are not a unique people.
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1838. There are people like the Nazis
in every country in the world today.
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1839. Not in America.
Yes, in America!
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1840. Their personality patterns
are not obscure.
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1841. They are people who want to be in power.
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1842. And while you say they don't exist here,
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1843. I would say I'm quite certain
there are people in America
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1844. who would willingly climb over the corpses
of half the American public
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1845. if they knew they could gain control
of the other half.
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1846. Doctor, please.
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1847. They stoke hatred.
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1848. It's what Hitler and Göring did,
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1849. and it is textbook.
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1850. And if you think the next time it happens,
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1851. we're gonna recognize it because
they're wearing scary uniforms...
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1852. you're out of your damn mind.
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1853. More with our panel when we return.
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1854. Yeah, uh-huh. Uh...
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1855. They're not gonna invite you
to stay for the next segment.
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1856. Let's go.
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1857. Hmm.
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1858. And just so you know...
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1859. trashing our country is probably not
the best way to sell your book.
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1860. Hmm.
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