1. In '39 and '40 in the
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money for the first time after
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enjoying entertainment.
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San Fransisco did — we have all
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and they got liberty,
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to the nightclubs.
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business and for show business
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something unusual like Forbidden
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— which they've never seen.
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Middle West — they'd never even
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alone a Chinese performer.
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nightclub in America until that
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bar in San Fransisco and then I
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night club — not only in San
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18. - Forbidden City was a
curiosity, a novelty,
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be going because you had the
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dressed with skimpy costumes and
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of a daring place to go.
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different kind fo funny.
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on, wasn't this or that,
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30s and 40s were shocking to the
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for the caucasian people.
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do this type of singing and
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everybody even for ourselves it
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38. - No one took us very seriously
until Forbidden City opened its
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40. So we said, "Come on, let's
show the world our stuff."
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get letters from Chinese people
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ashamed of ourselves doing what
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dancing in a night club,
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should get a decent job and be
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46. Girls were taught
to grow up and keep house.
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at a certain time and we were
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take care of the house,
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and take care of your husband.
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we didn't have piano lessons
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just not part of the Chinese
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show business the same thing
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show business... the community
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something wrong with them.
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when he passes away he expects
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store... you follow in your
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hadn't passed away,
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and became a pharmacist,
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people are very close-minded,
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business have to be absolutely
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everything else that's bad.
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they didn't care for the modern
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modern dress and attire to
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— that they just didn't realize
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small time where we didn't have
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Chinese on top of us, you know?
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a little more liberated.
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Arizona — Clifton — Clifton,
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with all the other population
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the American traditions,
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learned in school.
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were not really that strong.
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only Chinese family there so
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reasons I don't know too many
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purely caucasian western,
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junior college that I looked and
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and I said, "My gosh,
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of myself as one.
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89. - Growing up at that time we
would get in a little hustles,
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say "chinks,"
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fight them with my brothers.
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and we called them a name.
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say what, but we do.
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— bricks rolling and so forth
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99. - And they used to
ask me questions.
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nationality are you?"
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suey," and they go,
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102. " What do you mean
'chop suey?'" And says,
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103. "Well, you know, the dish
is a mixture of everything,"
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Portuguese, Spanish,
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and that was it... chop suey.
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it I think the people in my
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lucky to be in that generation
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wonderful blend of our Chinese
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Americanized that our thoughts
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different or our goals might
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different... and what we wanted
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being done by the orientals.
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inspired by Frank Sinatra.
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I first came over was mostly
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of the popular songs... but when
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wanted to sing like him.
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I would sing along with the
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this is pretty snappy."
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my desire to sing...
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122. - Oh yeah, my mom wanted to know
where I went and I told her that
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times at the Variety Theater.
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that's the case,
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I had the nerve to do it,
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130. I think I must have been sort of
a rebel also because I wanted to
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for certain things,
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climb mountains,
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salute to Spring on California's
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139. Leagues of San Fransisco's
Chinatown hail the season with
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tops with honorable ancestors no
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Miss Chinatown of today,
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no uncertain manner.
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east becoming streamline glamour
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step with the best of them.
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very boring provincial town...
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extremely square and bias.
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in the town thought I'd
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and my family was insane.
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American born in San Fransisco,
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that were very modern in those
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and all her friends said to her,
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you're sending your daughter to
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those kinds of things,
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that she wanted me to take
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therefore I continued dancing
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come to pick up your feet.
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and turn on the heat.
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me dancing 'cause,
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— that's only three miles to
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expect me to go to Stanford.
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kitchen here I am practicing
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surprisingly he goes to my
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know our number one son?
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music around the house — he
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and guitar — so we used to have
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always at the house,
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call a "Hawaiian jam session."
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always sang — you know —
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thought of just very natural so
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182. - My dancing lessons were seeing
movies of Eleanor Powell...
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I saw her do was in 'Broadway
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she danced without music,
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185. and I came home and I practiced
and practiced until I got the
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made a movie that was a dancing
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away and join the show.
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course, won't hear of it.
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191. So, I plan and the night I was
running away from home I had to
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through the front door — and I
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especially my mom.
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out of the window,
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she gave me $40 — which was a
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to Los Angeles after I graduate
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very dumb and no money.
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didn't know what to do,
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a job as a dancer.
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agents offices...
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us, we'll call you."
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208. - But if a white boy came in he'd
get the job first before me.
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the American dance team — the
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wouldn't get the bookings.
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you on Chinese New Year's."
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New Year and Jewish people and
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waitress in a little bar— I
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at the time or 18.
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that owns the bar asked me,
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be a singing bartender?"
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expression — I was to go out
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songs in order to make tips.
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trouble at first.
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want a Chinese girl in the band
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fact that we had any talent in
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supposed, cook or laundry boy.
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finally wound up in San
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about this Chinese club which
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and it was called the Forbidden
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234. Good evening
ladies and gentlemen,
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after dark... wonderful,
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Street, and its showtime.
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quite made up your mind as to
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your vacation this year.
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exactly where she is going.
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stars of Charlie Low's fabulous
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she's America's most beautiful
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Mai Tai Sing knows great
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Forbidden City days...
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us all a chance to get into the
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know, it wasn't easy,
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there's always someone to help
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prove yourself... then you're
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given that chance.
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258. - Good evening
friends, I am Charlie Low,
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City in San Fransisco.
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Tai Sing and Tony Wing,
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all-star Chinese review here at
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outstanding oriental nightclub.
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to be the fashion nice guy.
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other states as well,
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seen a Chinese nightclub with an
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time was ripe for something like
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it because Chinese will say,
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drink hard liquor,"
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to white trade.
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Chinese in Chinatown have no
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little business... run it for
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I'm a little different.
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at a young age...
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and thoughts in the back of my
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a lot of trouble,
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a good Chinese floor show,
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281. - When the call came for
girls to join a chorus lines,
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of town applied.
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Fransisco looked down on such
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didn't apply so we ere the only
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286. - As I said, we weren't
very experienced dancers,
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just mediocre dancers,
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to tell you the truth.
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290. - Oh yes, we did have a
lot of fun with the girls.
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had had real dancers...
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Theater and the Warfield.
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to come into the Forbidden City
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Chinese girls that tried.
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precision like things because he
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Warfield Theater and we had a 16
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loved all the tiller work.
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were trying to do.
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have always done to Charlie.
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the hop and the kick is on the
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heard of an upbeat and a down
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to catch the kick at the top of
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this is what goes to
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name — I was using Tony Costa
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there Charlie says that he had
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Chinese name 'cause he says,
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advertising all-oriental review
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says, "Can I be a Wong?"
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you got to be a Wing.
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Wongs in this show now,
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have a different name."
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the name of Tony Wing.
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Chinese Sophie Tucker.
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her style of entertaining.
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much for the label so to speak,
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so I stuck with it.
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asked me again,
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I'll work for you,
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to buy a tuxedo,
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stiff shirt and a bowtie,"
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all, I don't want that.
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going to go that way I am,"
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can't it's a nightclub.
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dress like that."
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in a monkey suit."
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the Forbidden City as a pianist
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very bad at that point.
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— the PR man — that suggested
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Chinese bubble dancer...
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Low bought that idea.
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Rand, very popular.
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and she was a
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raised in Inverness,
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choruses — which is a long time
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or holding a pair of fans,
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hysterical at her because it's a
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it comes to turns,
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was hard with two 25 pound fans
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tables and put her finger on
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and say, "Excuse me,
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called everybody Susie —
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all over the table."
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performed I think I was numb.
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too... because I had never done
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ahead I had to attract enough
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lot of things that I normally
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true what they say about Chinese
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that had gone around for years
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different than caucasian gal,
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think they kind of believe it.
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see for ourselves."
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all got started.
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by friends and other people,
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good-naturedly — I didn't get
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I'd play along with it.
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they say about Chinese girls?"
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eating corn on the cob.
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all the way out to the street,
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there by the hundreds.
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399. If it wouldn't have been for
that idea I think we would have
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business entirely.
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clubbing was the thing.
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clubs in town and they were all
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but I think they came to the
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because we were different.
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novelty and the Chinese girls,
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being exotic and mysterious
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and we started a boom.
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409. Cute little Chinese dolls.
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410. Oh yes, we were told by the
servicemen we were all wanted
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them between shows...
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have a bite to eat...
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ordinary people.
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amused me more than anything
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of myself as an American.
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ladies and gentlemen,
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Low's Forbidden City.
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that was one of the places they
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the Forbidden City had great
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entertainment, great music,
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night if they wished to.
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dinner for a dollar and a half,
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426. - Dollar.
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427. - A Dollar!
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428. - Saturday, dollar-and-a-half.
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dollar-and-a-half... for dinner!
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clocked at 2200 a day in and
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— it was four deep... four deep
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434. - To see Chinese girls performing
very similar to a westerner was
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was worse than that.
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439. A lot of the kids are
married, but... gee-whiz!
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440. - A lot of drinking
and fooling around.
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boy, let me tell you.
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443. - Did he know how to run a club.
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because he talked to
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446. He talked to each
table... everybody that came in
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as if he had known them forever.
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he was talking to.
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too... like Bing Crosby,
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452. you know, Bob Hope,
you know, all those...
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location was wonderful,
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that you felt when they said
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entertainment that you were
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to walk up and Sutter was only a
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the actual Chinatown.
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unsafe on Sutter Street.
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there naturally because they
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because for one thing it was
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it was mostly an entire Chinese
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to that kind of a mix yet,
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they've heard about the Tung
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years ago — but this is up to
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to experience first hand.
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comes a knife or something.
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thing even though it was a
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they saw in Chinese opera and
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had seen in pictures.
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oriental people were a little
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and the slippers and the little
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Chinese entertainers in those
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because they've always viewed
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stereotype manner.
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occasions I've heard people say,
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484. They don't have any rhythm...
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487. I think they're bow-legged."
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me a little kiss" in Chinese?
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dame's probably got bow legs
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493. - Oh, yeah?
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494. Is that so, you big bozo.
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495. Bow legs, huh?
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496. Listen to me.
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and say," That chink,"
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chinaman," you know,
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499. "That slant eye..."
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500. Being in the business we
had to take some of that.
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take some of that,
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502. but we don't.
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503. - We were not anything different,
it's just that to show we were
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an all-Chinese entertainment...
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indulgence we would like very
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a song or two... and it goes
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508. something like this.
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509. - It was a razzle
dazzle situation.
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510. It was unbelievable because
they got sung by American music,
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511. and it was kinda
like a half and half.
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512. They expected something more
mystical like out of the orient
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513. and then all of the sudden they
get this MC that's popping the
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was a "Hi, fellas.
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516. You know, "Come on in."
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519. It was a parody of
Little Egypt doing a snake
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the shape of a snake and how the
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you get like that and look at
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524. Like me... the snake would look
at me and then go like that with
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do a parody of Little Egypt.
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in the chorus in Forbidden City,
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was the choreographer,
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duos, I thought,
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something different."
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I designed the clothes so that
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533. I was the one in the middle.
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534. I had to lift those two gals,
but they were very young and
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536. - We decided after working at
Charlie's for awhile that we
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to try to put some acts
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as far as entertainment was
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540. So we got ourselves an
agent and we booked ourselves.
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entertainment to the GIs,
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work and we had the Stage Door
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saw a lot of bonds.
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544. It was very interesting playing
in little towns and what we
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Christie... I said to my agent,
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547. "How do you find these places!"
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548. The town was so small
— how small was it?
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Chinese restaurant.
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550. Every town has a
Chinese restaurant,
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552. I walked into town,
people followed me for blocks.
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553. My producer thought
there was a parade.
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black with bangs,
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the chop sticks.
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556. People would stop me
on the street and say,
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557. "You speak-a English?"
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558. I says, "No, not a damn word.
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560. - And I remember I was in a
town somewhere in Oklahoma and
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club I was working in and said,
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Chinese before,"
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564. and he touched me.
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565. I guess he expected us
to be very different,
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566. you know, things like that.
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567. - They thought we were so cute
and so dainty and... as one guy
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568. put it, they thought if they
touched us we would break.
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569. In other words, we
were little china dolls.
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time I went down south,
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got off the train station — I
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or not — never been
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got off the train station and I
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the ladies' room.
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and I saw the sign says "Black"
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577. So I stood there
and I said, "Now,
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580. I was stunned for a while.
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581. I didn't know they
had such things!
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582. But you learn, you know?
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583. So I thought, "Well, I'm not
black so I must go to the white
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Louise in Chinese,
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and we're not white,
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588. And she says, "Let's
go in the black one."
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589. - I boarded the bus and no
sooner that I boarded the bus I
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segregated... where do you sit
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592. I looked in the rear.
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593. I looked at the front.
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594. Fortunately, there was something
open in the middle of the
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597. So I sat down in the
middle of the bus,
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599. So, oh well.
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600. One learns to let it roll off of
you when you feel discrimination
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602. - Oh, yeah.
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that come in they always have
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about the Chinese,
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607. and some of them took us for
Japanese instead of Chinese,
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like they always do — "yellow
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that kind of stuff.
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entertainers at that time who
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they would be Japanese...
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entertainers were shipped off,
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back at that period because it
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all the Japanese were being
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partner and I were in New York
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621. and we received an offer
and a telegram it was okay,
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Hollywood to be with Kay Kyser
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623. in this movie, and we were so
happy over it because it would
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our show business life.
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625. - And we received a phone call,
and the immigration officer
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that Toy — your partner — is
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California or she will have to
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camp, that is the law now."
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629. - And we ended up by going back
to New York and starting all the
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it was very hard for us.
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631. We had to start right
form the bottom again.
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the night club business starting
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things started to change.
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in going to nightclubs,
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in making a family.
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the money on entertainment —
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theater... television.
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was in its infancy,
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watching to see what happened on
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lot of competition from other
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643. - So it really hurt a
great deal for show business,
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wonderful thing like a novelty
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645. like the Forbidden City
who really was a draw.
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646. People really made an
effort to come and see.
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647. They had no reason to go anymore
because they had already seen
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of the acts that were there.
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six nightclubs in San Fransisco
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up with only the Forbidden City
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654. The Sky Room was
the last one to fold.
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655. - We had to more or less
compete with the clubs that were
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discos and the topless bars —
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— the little go-go dancers...
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658. On the other hand we had the
big Los Vegas shows — the big
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putting on that was attracting
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just couldn't compete with these
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— the end of an era of show
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663. - And so ladies and gentlemen
that concludes the first edition
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the Forbidden City.
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665. May I say to you one and
all that you have been a most
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behalf of the cast and yours
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much to thank you.
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668. - Well, I always wanted
to be an entertainer,
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669. I wanted to sing, and I got
in with the rest of them.
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670. I felt that I'm able to get into
the so-called job market of the
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I could do that regardless of
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673. Thank you very
much, ladies and gentlemen.
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very much everyone,
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we'd like to give you a
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favorites by that Yankee Doodle
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