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that hasn't been said before.
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the lessons of life
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could ever be.
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great names in music,
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in his own time,
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and crawlin', and climbin'
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totally exhausted.
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in the darkness...
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to me, J.R.
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the end of the world—
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at the end of the line.
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very heartbreaking.
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no air conditioning,
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in the middle of,
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and after.
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out there ten hours a day
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day after day after day.
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to pass the time away.
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the day'd be over.
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we'd come home at night,
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gospel music around the piano.
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and we'd all join in.
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get up the next day
and do it all over again.
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that they should go,
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they'll not depart from it."
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a spiritual foundation
in our life.
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in the life of Johnny Cash.
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songs and sing.
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he would lay in bed at night
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the young boy's escape.
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I was wasting my time
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from making a living.
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Ray Cash
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of a hard-hit,
struggling farming man.
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shared with his father,
Ray Cash,
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to say the least.
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to what his father's
expectations were.
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when you have a father
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never hit me a lick.
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he never hugged us.
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to even telling us
he loved us.
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They'd work hard together.
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each other. True brothers.
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It was a kinship.
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and pick up a few cents
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to help pay the bills.
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and was very godly.
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that he'd been "called
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so let's talk
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Jack to stay with him
and to go fishing.
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Go fishing."
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"No, I'm gonna go make $3.
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where the table saw
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all through his stomach.
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at his bedside, holding his
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the loss of a son
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like a tidal wave.
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and she'd be down on her knees,
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and try to console her.
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there was an enormous void.
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more determined than ever
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his voice lowered.
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was briefly stationed
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while he's in Germany
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exchanged countless letters.
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the Mississippi River bridge,
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so many cultures
all colliding in that town.
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to get on the radio,
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and make a living,
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and home improvements.
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you know, Elvis has recorded
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down at Sun Studios.
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at 706 Union Avenue
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of a new style of music.
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Sam Phillips.
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"I'm John Cash,
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puts him off.
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he sits on the curb.
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I found out what time
the man went to work.
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and sat on his steps
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I believe you'll be
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singing some covers
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was our first session.
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the recorder the whole time
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with The Tennessee Two
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beautiful racket.
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that people had
just never heard before.
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but I'm a song stylist.
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and stay simple,
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to have a drummer in the band,
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a drummer.
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put a dollar bill
in the strings of the guitar
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boom-chicka-boom sound.
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like a snare drum that's not.
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to sing on the radio.
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came true in 1955.
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to Johnny Cash
was through my dad.
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"A Boy Named Sue".
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and laughed over that song.
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something like that.
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for the first time,
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and George Jones,
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one of the eight-tracks
that he had.
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having a CD stuck
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of one of my work trucks
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out of high school.
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to radio or anything.
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to Johnny Cash
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I really fell in love
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"Johnny Cash?"
They'd go, "Cool."
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that didn't respect Johnny Cash.
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1983, cassettes.
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a drink from a fire hose.
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"Hello, I'm Johnny Cash"
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of my little record player
in my bedroom,
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by that sound,
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what I was listening to.
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and wouldn't let me go.
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one day "Hey Porter"
and "Cry, Cry, Cry" came on.
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Isn't that wonderful?"
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I felt it, and I loved it.
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in a big, long, black Cadillac.
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the world's worst driver.
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having fun with our music,
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it was raw.
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falling in love with.
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those that know
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conversationally.
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the way people talk.
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of common, everyday life.
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in the real world.
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when I would see
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all hype, but then
every record I released,
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a quarter of a million.
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and The Tennessee Two
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with all the other bands,
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about their latest conquests,
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I walk the line."
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is a song of steadfastness,
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of love to his wife, Vivian.
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that it didn't matter.
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right, but that's
what he told her.
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the effect John's singing had
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of adoring girls,
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what she had signed up for.
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412. He was embarking on this life
where the audiences
were craving him.
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fast becoming a superstar.
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She wanted her family.
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the rise of Elvis Presley
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and all the accolades.
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419. While she absolutely
loved Johnny Cash
until the day she died,
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to be on the radio.
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it never occurred to him
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to be traveling
day after day for years,
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his life, was the road life.
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never thought about or planned,
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"The road is crushing,
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It's endless."
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is, when you're in a garage
with your friends
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432. and you're learning songs,
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you're going to be on the road
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Copy !req
435. Boredom had a lot to do
with it. It's very boring
out there on the road.
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436. That two hours on the stage
is all we live for.
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is really a drag.
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this separate reality.
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about being in show business.
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maybe three shows a night.
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hundreds and hundreds of miles
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on dangerous roads.
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445. And you've got to do it
again the next night.
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446. You got 6,000 people
in the audience
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447. waitin' on you to come out
and sing a song,
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448. and it gets to the point
where you wanna shut it off.
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anything, so you drink,
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with multiple women or whatever.
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452. Anything to kinda
get rid of the feeling,
and once the feeling's gone,
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the feeling back.
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hundreds of shows a year,
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slipped him a pill,
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459. saying, "This will
keep you going."
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460. So Johnny took it, thinking,
"This is God-sent."
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461. We really did not think
that amphetamines
were a problem.
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462. Poor George.
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463. He's having a long headache.
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you feel in the morning?
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
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were prescribing
these pills by the billions.
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to housewives.
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to college students.
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470. They were marketed to people
to help them lose weight.
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471. They were marketed
to truck drivers
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472. to help them on the road.
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473. It was like taking a pill
for your heart
or for your blood pressure.
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474. It wasn't, like, a bad thing.
Copy !req
475. And nobody really thought
too much about it.
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476. A lot of people in the South,
"If it's a prescription,
it's okay."
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sniffin' cocaine.
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480. because doctors told him
that they were medicine.
Copy !req
481. When you're on the road
that many dates a year,
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pulling at him.
Copy !req
483. And after a while, you just—
you need a little help.
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Copy !req
485. That's when all of a sudden,
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486. "Well, I better take
a downer to go to sleep."
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487. "Oh, now I better take
some speed to wake up."
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488. And now you're on
a whole rollercoaster.
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489. Well, if one works,
two must be even better.
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490. But then after five, and ten,
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491. you need to find a way
to slow it all down.
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like everybody else.
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make me feel better.
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before you know it,
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left and right like candy.
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497. You know, it's just
a vicious, vicious cycle.
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the pills for a while,
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started taking me.
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500. You know, so that's
when it starts spiraling
out of control.
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give you a high,
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like you can do anything.
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505. before you took 'em.
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506. When I started
drinking beer
along with the amphetamines,
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or five a night,
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508. but I got up to 12, 14.
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509. Sometime I'd misjudge
how high I was, you know?
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510. And I'd get on stage
and I was a wreck.
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511. All the drugs
made him forget
Copy !req
512. that people
were counting on him.
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513. Thousands
and thousands of dollars
of promoters' money
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if he didn't show up,
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515. and he didn't show up
for a bunch of dates.
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516. The Statler Brothers,
who were in his band,
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517. he took them to California
and met Vivian and the girls,
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518. and said he was going out
for cigarettes.
Copy !req
519. Four days later,
he wasn't back. He forgot.
Copy !req
520. At the Olympia Theater
in Paris, France,
instead of playing the show,
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521. he took off with Joan Baez
and Bob Dylan and just partied
all over town,
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522. while 2,000 people
are sitting in seats
Copy !req
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that never happened.
Copy !req
524. A lot of people lost money
Copy !req
525. and he was kind of lost himself.
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526. He was a mere shell
of the man he once was.
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a gospel singer,
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528. they're in the rearview mirror.
Copy !req
529. It was kind
of a scatter-brained
period for me.
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530. You know, it affects
everything in your life
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531. when you're
on mood-altering drugs.
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532. Everything in your life
is, uh,
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533. is not right.
Copy !req
534. In the midst
of all this, his health
is disintegrating.
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535. He lost so much weight,
he looked like a cadaver.
Copy !req
536. And on the charts,
he's invisible.
Copy !req
537. Desperation kind of starts
setting in, here.
Copy !req
538. And so, next thing you know,
there you are,
Copy !req
539. going down the tubes
without realizing you are,
Copy !req
540. and so is your marriage,
and so is your family,
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541. and so is everything else
in your life.
Copy !req
542. J.R. and Vivian
are in a difficult time.
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543. I think the change
of Johnny's personality
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544. was something else,
Copy !req
545. and then, of course,
the real change came
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546. when he just fell madly in love
with June Carter.
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547. She became a member
of the show cast,
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548. and was working
all the show dates with us.
Copy !req
549. But it all started
with an automobile ride
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550. from Oklahoma City to Dallas.
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551. And June did not have a ride,
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552. so Marshall Grant
had told her was,
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553. "June, we've got six people
in that car already."
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554. And Johnny said, "Well,
she can sit on my lap.
It's only three hours."
Copy !req
555. So, that was the beginning.
Copy !req
556. June was married
to someone else,
just as he was.
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557. Both of them
later described it
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that they simply
could not stop.
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559. It was not something
to be proud of,
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560. and he wasn't proud of it.
Copy !req
561. Which only added
fuel to the fire
for the amphetamine thing,
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562. because it was tearing
Johnny apart.
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564. he would stop
taking the pills for a time,
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565. and his conscience
would return.
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566. He would go home,
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567. and it became obvious the toll
that fame, fortune, and pills
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568. were taking on his family.
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569. And then the guilt
would overwhelm him.
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570. And the only way
that he could ease that guilt
Copy !req
571. was to take another pill.
Copy !req
572. J.R. genuinely
loved Vivian, and June,
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573. and his heart was torn
in two directions.
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574. He couldn't seem
to find his way.
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575. It was a volatile situation,
to say the least.
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576. That is
something that is
so difficult to reconcile.
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577. And he couldn't do it.
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578. As a result of this situation,
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579. June sits down and writes,
"Ring of Fire".
Copy !req
580. Cash hears it and he says,
"That's about me."
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581. And Dad wanted
to record it himself.
Copy !req
582. Now, in addition
to the stability
of "I Walk the Line",
Copy !req
583. J.R. has got the fire,
the passion,
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584. the raw power
of "Ring of Fire."
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585. And this man is not
just singing about it,
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586. he was living it
every single day.
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587. The conflict
in his head just fueled
that despair he felt.
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588. Less than two months later,
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589. "Ring of Fire" is
the biggest song in the world.
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590. And it cements his place
in country music.
Copy !req
591. It also tied him for eternity
to June Carter.
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592. She and he
continued careening
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593. through the mid-60s,
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594. while he desperately tried
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595. to hold on to the stability
that Vivian gave him.
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596. In the 1960s,
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put great strains
on his relationship
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598. and kept him away
from his children.
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599. Johnny's family situation
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600. was struggling,
to say the least.
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601. And so, an extremely
difficult time
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602. to come home to that house
in California.
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603. And one day in 1965,
Johnny did not come home.
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604. In 1965, at the end
of a long tour,
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605. J.R. was supposed to go home.
Copy !req
606. Instead, he got off
at the airport
in El Paso, Texas.
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607. Vivian called
and said, "Where's Johnny?
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608. He was supposed
to be home yesterday."
Copy !req
609. He decided that he was
gonna go across the border
into Mexico.
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610. He went and found
a drug dealer,
Copy !req
611. and bought
over 1,100 Benzedrine
and Dexedrine pills.
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612. Unbeknownst to him
at the time,
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613. the police were keeping an eye
on this drug dealer.
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614. But when they saw Johnny Cash
in the crosshairs,
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615. they tracked him very carefully
until he got to the airport,
Copy !req
616. opened the guitar case,
and found the pills.
Copy !req
617. The guard said,
"You can get the pills out
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618. or we'll tear
your guitar apart."
Copy !req
619. So Johnny got the pills out,
and he was arrested,
and it hurt.
Copy !req
620. It hurt,
not because it bothered us,
Copy !req
621. as much as we hurt for him,
Copy !req
622. because we knew that he was
right in the midst
of his downward spiral.
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623. And we were praying daily
that God wouldn't take him.
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624. The drugs,
the immorality,
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625. the bad decisions
were all catching up.
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626. Johnny Cash was
very self-destructive.
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627. Self-destructive behavior
will either get you through it,
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628. see the light, or kill ya.
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629. We were all young
and wild and crazy.
Copy !req
630. How crazy were you?
I was crazy as you can get.
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631. I mean crazy-crazy.
Copy !req
632. There were quite a few
times in his life that he nearly
died,
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633. and would have been
possibly by his own folly.
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634. Car wrecks. He caught
a vehicle on fire in California
Copy !req
635. and burned down many acres
of a forest there.
Copy !req
636. He did a lot of bad things
during those drug years.
Copy !req
637. The Grand Ole Opry
banned you at one time.
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638. Well, I don't know
how bad they wanted me
in the first place,
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639. but the night I broke
all the lights on the stage...
Copy !req
640. they said they couldn't
use me anymore, so.
Copy !req
641. Really tough
on all of us to stand there
and watch it happen,
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642. because you can't help
somebody like that
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643. unless they want the help.
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644. And at that particular time,
he didn't want any help.
Copy !req
645. If that was gonna be
a subject of conversation,
just forget it.
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646. There's one thing
about, uh...
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647. someone addicted
to pills, alcoholics,
you know,
Copy !req
648. they're very selfish.
Copy !req
649. You know, they don't care
about anybody but themselves
Copy !req
650. and the way they happen
to feel right now.
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651. And that's all I cared about,
all I talked about,
Copy !req
652. how I feel,
what I want for me, you know?
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653. We saw him at his worst.
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654. We saw him when we didn't know
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655. if he was gonna be able to—
to make the show the next day,
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656. or rather he was gonna
continue his career.
Copy !req
657. Well, it must've been
just overwhelming for the man.
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658. All these wonderful accolades
comin' at him,
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659. but all this terrible stuff
comin' this way.
Copy !req
660. I mean, if there's ever
a devil and a god
on each shoulder,
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661. there had to be.
Copy !req
662. The light and darkness thing
is something that we all have.
Copy !req
663. There's a mean dog
and a good dog in all of us.
Copy !req
664. And what you try to do,
and you're always
trying to do is,
Copy !req
665. feed the good one
as much as you possibly can.
Copy !req
666. The one that's gonna win
is the one that gets fed
the most, right?
Copy !req
667. So I think the thing
about Johnny that made that
even more obvious,
Copy !req
668. he was always trying
to feed the light.
Copy !req
669. But he wore the darkness
and the light on his sleeve.
Copy !req
670. He was two people.
And he'd be the first
to tell you that.
Copy !req
671. He said, "Johnny is a nice guy.
Copy !req
672. But sometime Cash
gets into trouble."
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673. John R. Cash
came to the end of himself
Copy !req
674. in October of 1967.
Copy !req
675. His addiction
had really wore him down.
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676. My mother had told him
that she wouldn't talk to him,
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677. she wouldn't spend
time with him.
Copy !req
678. He was at a point
where she had no choice,
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679. and she had shut him off.
Copy !req
680. He is
in Chattanooga, Tennessee
when his lawyer calls
Copy !req
681. and tells him that his divorce
was finalized.
Copy !req
682. She remarried just a week later.
Copy !req
683. He was full of despair.
Copy !req
684. His life was
seemingly in shambles.
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685. His addictions had taken
their toll on his career,
Copy !req
686. his body, and his family.
Copy !req
687. And he was estranged
from his kids.
Copy !req
688. He had
some land down there,
Copy !req
689. and on that land
there was a cave
called "Nickajack Cave".
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690. But my dad kept sinking
deeper and deeper
into a depression.
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691. There were
these great conflicts
that seared his soul.
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692. He was really down
at his lowest point,
Copy !req
693. and he took a flashlight,
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694. and he said he was gonna
crawl back in there
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695. as long as his flashlight
would burn.
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696. And in the darkness,
laid down,
Copy !req
697. and basically, gave up his life,
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698. gave up everything.
Copy !req
699. I kept walkin'
and crawlin' and climbin'
'til my light run out,
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700. every fiber of my being
totally exhausted.
Copy !req
701. And I lay there
in the darkness,
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702. the end of the line.
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703. I lay there to die.
Copy !req
704. But he woke up
in the darkness of that cave
Copy !req
705. and felt that loneliness
and the emptiness
Copy !req
706. and realized
where he'd put himself.
Copy !req
707. And it was
like this feeling
came over me that, uh...
Copy !req
708. that He wanted
to speak to my heart.
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709. "You do not control
your destiny,"
Copy !req
710. that "It's My will
that you do not die now."
Copy !req
711. God said,
"I'm not through with you,
by any means."
Copy !req
712. He said, "I'll show you
the way out. Come on."
Copy !req
713. Then the urging
came over me to get up
and start crawling.
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714. I don't have any idea
how long I crawled.
Copy !req
715. Johnny said
there was some sort of light
Copy !req
716. that guided him
to the entrance of the cave.
Copy !req
717. For hours he crawled
on the ground.
Copy !req
718. He didn't have a flashlight.
He didn't have anything.
Copy !req
719. But then finally
I felt the wind.
Copy !req
720. Before long I saw light,
the entrance to the cave.
Copy !req
721. The hand of God had led me.
Copy !req
722. He faced himself,
he faced his temptations,
Copy !req
723. he faced his worldliness.
Copy !req
724. And God's love
brought him back.
Copy !req
725. He crawled out
of Nickajack Cave alive.
Copy !req
726. He saw the light.
Copy !req
727. He was given God's grace.
Copy !req
728. He came out wanting
to be right with God.
Copy !req
729. Doesn't mean he was
perfect with God,
Copy !req
730. but he wanted to be
right with God.
Copy !req
731. I was losing my voice.
Copy !req
732. I had stopped composing.
Copy !req
733. I didn't have any heart
for what I was doing.
Copy !req
734. And I realized that, uh,
Copy !req
735. that God didn't want me
to live that kind of life.
Copy !req
736. He had to put himself
into that darkness
Copy !req
737. before he would
appreciate the light.
Copy !req
738. And that's what happened,
is that he came out
a different man.
Copy !req
739. And when he finally
did give up those things
that were weighting him down,
Copy !req
740. the thing
that helped him do that
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741. was his faith in God Almighty.
Copy !req
742. And in that cave,
he hears the Lord say,
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743. "What are you doing here?"
Copy !req
744. This reminds me of a story
from The Bible,
Copy !req
745. a similar experience
that involved
the prophet Elijah.
Copy !req
746. Here is this prophet
of the Lord,
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747. who's depressed and discouraged
Copy !req
748. and he goes into a cave
and while he's in that cave,
Copy !req
749. God said,
"What are you doing here?"
Copy !req
750. Johnny came out of that cave
a different man.
Copy !req
751. Now he was a man on a mission.
Copy !req
752. All that success,
all the partying,
Copy !req
753. all the money, all the fame,
it's not real anymore.
Copy !req
754. And you start realizing
what is real.
Copy !req
755. We saw him at his lowest.
Copy !req
756. But, that is where he remembered
that God was on his side.
Copy !req
757. You know,
Jesus doesn't say,
Copy !req
758. "Clean up your life
and come to me."
Copy !req
759. He effectively says,
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760. "Come to me and I
will clean your life up."
Copy !req
761. At that moment
of despair,
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763. There is a light.
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764. And if you'll hang in there
long enough,
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765. you will get through the tunnel.
Copy !req
766. And that's exactly
what Johnny Cash did.
Copy !req
767. I came back
from Nickajack Cave
Copy !req
768. and June, she said,
"You're dying, you know?
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769. You'll die if you don't get off
of the amphetamines
and the sleeping pills."
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770. And I said,
"I know it. I will."
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"I'll tell ya what I'll do.
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773. And I'll be here at this house
every afternoon.
Copy !req
774. And that way you can
stay straight
and look forward to seeing me.
Copy !req
775. And we'll get
this thing whipped."
Copy !req
776. When he reached out
to people that could help him,
Copy !req
777. my mother was there.
Copy !req
778. I was on self-destruct
Copy !req
779. and she saw
what I was doing to myself
Copy !req
780. and she helped bring me
back up out of it.
Copy !req
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he was gonna die.
Copy !req
782. He was just skin and bones.
I worked with him.
Copy !req
783. There was something
that just wouldn't
let me give up.
Copy !req
784. He's detoxing
and there's June.
Copy !req
785. I can just see her, like,
Copy !req
786. "You'll have to come
through me."
Copy !req
787. Call it old-fashioned.
Copy !req
788. Call it tough love.
Copy !req
789. That's what you do.
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790. Without question,
June Carter saved
the life of Johnny Cash.
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791. She helped him
to get off the pills,
and she stood by his side.
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792. And June,
her mother and daddy,
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793. and all my family and friends
were downstairs,
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794. sleeping in sleeping bags,
and it kept me going.
Copy !req
795. They were praying together.
Copy !req
796. And the Lord brought him
through that.
Copy !req
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of the love of God
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798. that made a survivor
out of me.
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799. And not only a survivor,
but a sustainer.
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800. My father had a moment
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801. where he went back to the cross.
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802. The Lord
was drawing him back to himself.
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803. He was on his road back
to the Lord.
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804. So Joanne invited
her brother, Johnny, to church.
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805. Joanne's life had been changed
by Christ in this church.
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806. She wanted it to happen
for her brother.
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807. I could see him
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808. just drinking in
the pastor preaching.
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809. When I finished my message
that morning,
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810. I gave an altar call
and I said, you know,
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811. "If you want to find Christ,
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812. if you want to do the right
thing with the Lord,
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813. put up your hand."
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814. So his hand went up.
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815. Johnny stood up
and made a public profession,
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816. and walked forward and said,
"I'm gonna follow Jesus Christ."
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817. A public profession means
you're saying,
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818. "I believe,
and I don't care who knows.
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819. In fact, I want others to know."
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820. And then a person coming
to Christ may pray
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821. what we sometimes call
"a sinner's prayer",
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822. and it goes along these lines.
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823. "Lord Jesus,
I know that I'm a sinner,
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824. but I know
that you're the Savior
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825. Who died on the cross for my sin
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826. and rose again from the dead.
I'm sorry for my sin.
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827. I turn from that sin,
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828. and I choose to follow You
from this moment forward."
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829. Johnny prayed
a prayer like that,
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830. and his life was changed
for time and eternity.
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831. And the good news is,
anybody can pray that prayer,
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832. and they too can have the hope
that Johnny Cash had.
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833. Johnny and June
and all the girls were down
at the altar.
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834. Johnny told me,
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835. "I think it's about time
I led my family back to Jesus."
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836. I watched the man
cry his heart out
down there in that altar,
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837. and all of 'em together,
every one of 'em.
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838. And when they opened up
their hearts to the Lord,
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839. it changed everything.
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840. He came to us
and he said,
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841. "Guys, I know this has been
rough out here."
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842. He said, "I just wanna
tell you all,
I'm gonna clean up."
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843. And from that point on,
he rededicated his life
in many different ways,
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844. and redoubled his efforts
into spreading the word
of Christianity.
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845. It's a scary sight.
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846. It's towering above ya.
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847. And we all walk
in there that morning,
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848. and hear the clang
of the metal doors
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849. closing behind you.
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850. Through the pain,
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851. throbbing melody
draws compassion
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852. and care and concern
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853. for myself
and for my fellow man.
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854. Johnny Cash had found
a new purpose and focus.
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855. He wanted to say and do
something with his music,
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856. and more importantly,
his life.
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857. His pastor, Floyd Gressett,
came to him
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858. and asked if he'd be interested
in a prison outreach program.
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859. He preached up there
every fourth Sunday
of the month,
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860. and he knew all those people,
the officials and—
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861. And he set up
this prison concert.
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862. He didn't wanna
just get up and do
a regular Johnny Cash show
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863. at Folsom Prison.
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864. He wanted to touch
men's hearts
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865. and to capture it on tape.
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866. I knew if I could ever
get a live recording
at a prison,
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867. it was gonna be a great album.
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868. He took June Carter,
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869. The Statler Brothers,
and Carl Perkins,
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870. and they went
into Folsom Prison.
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871. And we would like to continue
with the Johnny Cash Show
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872. and bring to you
the man that you've actually
come to see.
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873. He seems to have a lot of things
in common with you.
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874. Mr. Johnny Cash!
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875. J.R.
was very sensitive
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876. to those who were down
on their luck.
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877. He knew that he had faced
the same kinds of troubles
and situations
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878. that had led many of them
there.
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879. He wanted to get the feelings
of the men on tape
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880. and let them know
that somebody cared.
Copy !req
881. There was
a hopelessness,
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882. a nobleness,
and there was a dark side.
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883. And you could feel
all of those things,
and you could feel
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884. all those emotions
toward the character
that he was singing about.
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885. A lot of people
throw money at the forgotten.
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886. They feel good from their safe,
gated-off world.
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887. What made Johnny special was,
he actually spent time
kickin' it with these people.
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888. Johnny didn't discriminate.
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889. That's Johnny Cash in a prison
singing to the inmates,
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890. and I think that's probably
where he felt most comfortable.
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891. The reaction I got,
it was far and above anything
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892. I had ever had in my life.
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893. The complete explosion
of noise and reaction
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894. that they gave me
with every song.
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895. But they felt like they could
identify with me, I suppose.
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896. Those guys in prison went,
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897. "It's Johnny Cash.
We can trust him."
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898. You see these people
hanging on every word,
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899. and you can see the hope
in their eyes
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900. and the vulnerability
in their eyes.
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901. I think they felt
he was one of them.
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902. And in many ways, he was.
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903. He had had his struggles
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904. with a lot of the same issues
those prisoners struggled with.
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905. They saw his humanity.
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906. They saw his authenticity.
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907. And really,
they were seeing his faith.
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908. He could relate to them
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909. by who he had been
and how he had struggled,
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910. and how he always kept
coming back to Christ,
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911. and how there was hope
in that for him.
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912. And he found, I think,
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913. almost like his own ministry
in that.
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914. There's no filter.
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915. There's just Johnny,
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916. giving you his guts
and his glory.
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917. Folsomis recorded in January
and again, you know, a little...
some ambivalence—
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918. Is this gonna be commercial?
Is it gonna— is it gonna sell?
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919. Well, in March, he marries June.
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920. The love that they developed
for each other
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921. was one of the greatest
saving graces for each of them
in their lives.
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922. My mother saw
my father's kindness.
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923. She saw who he was
on the inside.
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924. She knew him, I think,
better than he did
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925. 'cause she saw him
through it all.
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926. They finished up
some dates on the road,
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927. and then, in May,
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928. they went on a honeymoon
to the Holy Land.
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929. And he tells the people
at Columbia Records
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930. that he wants to make an album
in the Holy Land.
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931. "We're not doing that,"
they said. He said, "Fine."
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932. He took a little handheld
microphone,
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933. and he and June went
and they visited the sites.
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934. And he comes back home,
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935. and Folsom Prisonis
the number one album
in the country.
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936. And he's king.
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937. Johnny Cash sold
more than six million records
in 1969 alone,
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938. besting The Beatles,
Elvis Presley,
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939. The Rolling Stones,
Jimi Hendrix,
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940. Janice Joplin, Led Zeppelin,
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941. and every other musical act
in the world.
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942. It wasn't even close.
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943. He said, "I'm gonna be
the biggest thing
in the business."
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944. And with that statement, he was.
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945. The album of the year,
Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison.
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946. After he got back, you can bet
your butt that they put out
his next record,
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947. whatever it was that he wanted.
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948. And that was The Holy Land.
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949. And he got a Top-10 record,
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950. and a number one single
from a gospel album.
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951. That had never happened!
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952. Johnny's gotten
his priorities back in order.
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953. He's returned to the faith
of his brother, Jack.
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954. And Johnny is putting
Jesus Christ
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955. first in his life again.
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956. AfterFolsom Prison,
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957. ABC came calling to do
a summer television show.
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958. Hello, I'm Johnny Cash.
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959. And I'm glad to see ya, David.
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960. Just as he did
with everything else
in his career,
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961. Johnny Cash turned the concept
of variety shows upside-down.
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962. Glad to have ya.
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963. He wanted the show
to be filmed at the Ryman,
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964. the mother church
of country music,
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965. and the home
of The Grand Ole Opry,
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966. the same stage
he first met June Carter.
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967. The impact
of the show itself,
it was a catapult,
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968. not only for John and his show,
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969. but for a lot of other artists.
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970. Joni Mitchell,
and Bob Dylan, and Eric Clapton,
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971. as well as luminaries
from country music
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972. and the gospel world.
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973. In fact,
there are over 70 people
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974. who were on The Johnny Cash Show
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975. who are currently in either
the Rock 'N Roll Hall of Fame,
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976. or the Country Music
Hall of Fame.
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977. But one of the things
that really drove
ABC executives crazy
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978. was the fact that John R. Cash
rebelled
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979. against the tightly-scripted
corporate TV show concept.
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980. At the beginning of the show,
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981. you see a more tentative
Johnny Cash.
Copy !req
982. They told him how
and where to stand,
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983. what to sing and say.
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984. So they were always
on his back,
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985. and sometimes he was told,
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986. "Don't do this"
or "Don't sing that song"
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987. or "Don't say that word."
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988. You knew he was gonna
do it, then.
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989. All you had to do
was tell him not to do it.
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990. I was 17 years old.
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991. I came in the back door
of the house singing,
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992. Well, you see, I'd been
a real high tenor up to then.
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993. And I didn't know
that my voice had dropped.
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994. And my mother turned around.
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995. She said,
"Who was that singing?"
I said, "That was me."
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996. And she said, "Keep it up."
So I did.
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997. John's faith showed up
on the television show
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998. because that was his roots.
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999. He even did a gospel special!
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1000. He wanted to do
and say something more
with his life.
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1001. He had messages
that he wanted to share.
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1002. And that was when his faith
stepped out into the light.
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1003. So as Johnny
is performing this song,
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1004. right here on this stage
at the Ryman Auditorium,
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1005. he has Billy Graham
read a scripture.
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1006. Who does that?
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1007. And Johnny made
a statement one time
to the network,
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1008. that if you don't want
God, country, faith, and family,
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1009. you don't want me,
because that's not what I do,
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1010. it's who I am.
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1011. The people at ABC were aghast.
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1012. "What in the— is he doing?
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1013. People don't watch these shows."
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1014. For him to say, "Hey,
I wanna close the show
with a gospel song."
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1015. And that was kind of,
"Well, are you sure
you wanna do that?"
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1016. And he held out,
"Yeah, I'm gonna do that."
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1017. Now he would do that.
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1018. Boy, he'd put his foot down.
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1019. The one show
that I remember specifically is,
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1020. I wanted to sing
"I'd Rather Have Jesus."
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1021. And they said,
"We don't want that."
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1022. But Johnny says,
"Then if you don't want Jessi
singing that song,
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1023. that we won't do the show."
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1024. You know, he didn't like
somebody to tell him
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1025. he couldn't do something,
or "this is not gonna work."
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1026. Then he would prove,
"Yes, it will work. Watch this."
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1027. And he would do it.
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1028. Well, here lately,
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1029. I think we probably made
the devil pretty mad
Copy !req
1030. because on our show
we've been mentioning
God's name,
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1031. we've been talking about Jesus.
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1032. But, I'll be ready for him.
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1033. In the meantime,
while he's coming,
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1034. I'd like to get in
one more good lick
for Number One.
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1035. The TV show is where we see him
introduce "Man In Black."
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1036. A journalist once asked,
"Tell me about your closet."
Copy !req
1037. J.R. replied,
"It's dark in there."
Copy !req
1038. Black was so much more than
the clothing that he wore.
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1039. It represented something
for him. It told a story.
Copy !req
1040. I remember the first time
I heard it, I went,
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1041. "He sealed the deal right there,
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1042. for he will forever be
'The Man in Black'."
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1043. This was Johnny Cash
speaking to college students
from Tennessee.
Copy !req
1044. "This is
what I want people
to know of me."
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1045. I wear all black because of him.
Copy !req
1046. Because I just was enamored,
he has a presence.
Copy !req
1047. Some people just have
that "it" thing, and he has it.
Copy !req
1048. When you mention
Johnny Cash,
Copy !req
1049. people will immediately think
of a guy that helped people
who had no voice.
Copy !req
1050. He stood for things
that nobody else
seemed to care about
Copy !req
1051. or had the authority
to stand on and talk about.
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1052. When Johnny Cash wrote
"Man In Black"
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1053. and made the decision
to put that suit on
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1054. and wear it
for the rest of his career,
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1055. he looked darkness
in the eye and said,
Copy !req
1056. "Not only will I take you on,
but I will wear you.
Copy !req
1057. And I will win."
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1058. That was the image
that people remembered.
Copy !req
1059. They remembered him standing up
on stage with his manifesto,
Copy !req
1060. speaking of the Lord,
and speaking
of the downtrodden.
Copy !req
1061. Johnny wanted people to know
what he believed,
Copy !req
1062. and why he believed it.
Copy !req
1063. He had no embarrassment
whatsoever about his faith
in Jesus Christ
Copy !req
1064. and wanted others
to share it, as well.
Copy !req
1065. Television series probably
would've lasted longer
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1066. if he hadn't a fought ABC
so hard.
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1067. The Johnny Cash Show
was on fire.
Copy !req
1068. He had big plans to take
his show to the Holy Land,
Copy !req
1069. but ABC had other plans,
Copy !req
1070. and cancelled his show
before he had that opportunity.
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1071. When I professed
my faith in Jesus Christ
Copy !req
1072. on network television,
and in my concerts,
Copy !req
1073. it turned a lot of people off.
Copy !req
1074. You see, the whole thing
about being a Christian
Copy !req
1075. is being willing
to give up the world.
Copy !req
1076. And that's what I was doing.
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1077. So he said, "All right.
Copy !req
1078. I'm gonna put my money
where my soul is."
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1079. And he went
and did it himself.
Copy !req
1080. He put a half a million dollars
of his own money
Copy !req
1081. to create his film,
theGospel Road.
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1082. Now come along with me
in the footsteps of Jesus.
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1083. Johnny was no stranger
to the silver screen.
Copy !req
1084. In fact, throughout his career,
Copy !req
1085. he was in dozens of shows
and movies,
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1086. but Johnny wanted to make
a film about Jesus Christ.
Copy !req
1087. Jesus was to suffer
much criticism
Copy !req
1088. for his association with people
of questionable character.
Copy !req
1089. "He dines with publicans
and sinners," they said.
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1090. And to that Jesus replied,
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1091. "It's the sick
that need a physician,
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1092. not the healthy."
Copy !req
1093. John walked up to me
one morning, early,
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1094. 'cause we always had to be
out there for sunrises,
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1095. and he said,
"I wanna get baptized."
Copy !req
1096. And I baptized Johnny Cash
and June Carter Cash
in the Jordan River.
Copy !req
1097. That was one of the highlights
of my life.
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1098. The Bible
likens baptism
to a burial service.
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1099. Think of a happy funeral.
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1100. The old you is going
into the water.
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1101. The new you is coming out.
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1102. Baptism is an outward showing
of an inward doing.
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1103. The old Johnny Cash
was immersed,
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1104. a new Johnny Cash was emerging,
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1105. one committed to his faith,
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1106. one committed
to scripture study,
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1107. one committed to telling others
about Jesus.
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1108. He made a great effort
to show his faith to the world.
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1109. And that was his dedication,
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1110. that was his reaching out
with his faith and doing
what he believed in.
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1111. J.R. was quoted
as saying,
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1112. "My record company would rather
I be in prison than in church"
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1113. In many ways, that's true.
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1114. His rebel persona
was easier to sell.
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1115. People found
his constant struggles
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1116. and his willingness to bare
his humanity intoxicating,
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1117. but Johnny Cash
was always a rebel.
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1118. In his early years,
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1119. his rebellion took him
on a journey away
from his family and faith.
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1120. But now, his rebellious spirit
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1121. was bringing him
back to his faith.
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1122. The Gospel Road
was not well-received.
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1123. In fact, it was
a financial disaster,
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1124. and almost bankrupted
Johnny Cash.
Copy !req
1125. But his good friend,
Billy Graham, stepped in
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1126. and used his platform
to take it to the world.
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1127. The Gospel Roadwas made
by my friend Johnny Cash
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1128. and his lovely wife June
as a labor of love,
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1129. so that they, too,
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1130. could share with the world
the Gospel.
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1131. Without your prayers
and without your support,
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1132. we could not continue.
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1133. in their lives.
We need your...
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1134. importantly,
to remind the church
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1135. that the old-time Gospel
is relevant to this generation!
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1136. Billy Graham,
though he was
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1137. the most famous evangelist
in all of the world,
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1138. had his own prodigal son,
Franklin.
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1139. And Franklin was rough
around the edges.
Copy !req
1140. And Billy was not
connecting to his son.
Copy !req
1141. And then one day,
Copy !req
1142. Billy noticed that Franklin
was listening
to Johnny Cash music.
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1143. I think
my father was trying
to find a way
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1144. to connect with me
in a different way,
Copy !req
1145. and he thought,
"Well, if I could meet
Johnny Cash,
Copy !req
1146. that would impress Franklin."
Copy !req
1147. And so, I think
it was '69 they met,
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1148. and had a dinner
at Johnny Cash's home.
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1149. And I was impressed.
Copy !req
1150. So what started
as an attempt by Billy
to help reach his son,
Copy !req
1151. ended up in a deep
and lasting friendship
between Billy and Johnny.
Copy !req
1152. Johnny was at a place
where he needed a person
in his life
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1153. that would be like
a mentor to him, spiritually.
Copy !req
1154. My father felt very comfortable
in Johnny's presence,
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1155. and Johnny felt very comfortable
in my father's presence,
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1156. because both grew up on farms,
Copy !req
1157. they both grew up poor.
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1158. And so, there was
a lot in common.
Copy !req
1159. They were both southern boys
who grew up with respect
for their elders
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1160. and listening to the same music.
Copy !req
1161. They called
each other often,
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1162. they vacationed together,
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1163. studied scripture together.
Copy !req
1164. They were very, very clo—
I mean, absolutely best friends,
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1165. because they found
that they could really be real,
Copy !req
1166. you know, where John
didn't have to sing
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1167. and Billy didn't have to preach.
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1168. Does he ever preach to you?
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1169. To me? No.
We talk about life.
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1170. We talk about everything,
whatever's happening.
Copy !req
1171. He's always anxious to give me
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1172. any spiritual advice
when I ask him.
Copy !req
1173. But, no, he's not
that kind of person.
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1174. A very human person,
very humble.
Copy !req
1175. Billy has been
a great inspiration to me.
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1176. And his friendship
has been something
I've leaned on
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1177. from time to time
over the years.
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1178. And in some ways,
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1179. Billy Graham was that brother
that Johnny had lost.
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1180. Johnny could bare
his heart to Billy,
Copy !req
1181. he could ask questions of Billy.
Copy !req
1182. Billy loved Johnny,
was not judgmental of him,
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1183. and helped give him
the spiritual guidance
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1184. that, had he lived, Jack
might've given him.
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1185. Their friendship
was very precious,
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1186. and it brought Johnny
closer to the Lord.
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1187. Johnny
once said to Billy,
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1188. "If there's anything
I can ever do for you,
just let me know."
Copy !req
1189. Billy said, "Well, as a matter
of fact, I have a Crusade
coming up
Copy !req
1190. and I was wondering
if you would come and sing."
Copy !req
1191. Johnny quickly agreed.
Copy !req
1192. That's just
the way John was.
Copy !req
1193. If he's your friend,
he's your friend at all times.
Copy !req
1194. He doesn't think about
his career or anything else.
Copy !req
1195. He just, "Oh, that's my friend.
Copy !req
1196. He wants me to do this.
I'm gonna do it."
Copy !req
1197. It didn't matter to him
what the music industry
Copy !req
1198. thought about him
being with Billy Graham,
Copy !req
1199. because that was where
Johnny's heart was,
with the Gospel.
Copy !req
1200. And I'm proud and honored
Copy !req
1201. and thrilled and flattered
to present tonight
Copy !req
1202. my very good
and warm friend in Christ,
Copy !req
1203. Johnny Cash.
Copy !req
1204. I spend a lot of my time
Copy !req
1205. working with drug addicts
and alcoholics.
Copy !req
1206. And only someone
who has had such a problem
Copy !req
1207. can have complete love
and compassion
Copy !req
1208. and understanding
for such people.
Copy !req
1209. I love drug addicts.
And I love alcoholics.
Copy !req
1210. If some lost, lonely person
somewhere out there
Copy !req
1211. in a dirty bed and a dark room
Copy !req
1212. can see the light
of Jesus Christ in me,
Copy !req
1213. then that is my reward.
Copy !req
1214. Johnny was there
to help my father evangelize.
Copy !req
1215. People came to hear my father,
Copy !req
1216. but when they heard
Johnny Cash was coming,
Copy !req
1217. it gave them an opportunity
to bring certain friends
Copy !req
1218. that probably wouldn't come.
Copy !req
1219. And it's the kind of people
Copy !req
1220. that my father wanted
to preach to.
Copy !req
1221. It was almost eight years ago
Copy !req
1222. that we renewed our total
commitment to Jesus Christ.
Copy !req
1223. And I just wanted to say,
in case anybody had any doubt,
Copy !req
1224. that I'm a Christian,
and I'm awfully proud to say so.
Copy !req
1225. Johnny came to 30
of my father's Crusades.
Copy !req
1226. I went to Billy,
and I wanted to know more
Copy !req
1227. about his friendship with Dad,
what made it so special.
Copy !req
1228. And he just said,
"We were brothers in Christ.
Copy !req
1229. We found something
we believed in together."
Copy !req
1230. And I will never forget that.
It was such a simple summation.
Copy !req
1231. But it really told the truth
of their relationship.
Copy !req
1232. J.R. didn't say,
"I'm forsaking everything
in the secular world."
Copy !req
1233. The great evangelist
Billy Graham told him
not to do that.
Copy !req
1234. Billy Graham said,
"No. This is exactly
where you need to be.
Copy !req
1235. You need to speak
to the world."
Copy !req
1236. He was
just on fire for Jesus.
Copy !req
1237. He wanted to do something
for God that would last.
Copy !req
1238. And you have to understand John,
he wanted to do it right now.
Copy !req
1239. That's just the way he was.
Copy !req
1240. In 1977,
John was ordained a minister.
Copy !req
1241. And privileges
appertaining thereto.
Copy !req
1242. Thank you, Dr. Hamon.
Thank you very much.
Copy !req
1243. Think about this.
The Reverend Johnny Cash.
Copy !req
1244. That's what he was now.
Copy !req
1245. He was an ordained minister
of the Gospel.
Copy !req
1246. That doesn't go with the image
many people have of Cash.
Copy !req
1247. And it's my privilege,
as a Christian,
to study the Word of God.
Copy !req
1248. But I accept the degree
as recognition of the fact
Copy !req
1249. that I am in the Word of God
and trying to grow in it.
Copy !req
1250. You know,
it's an interesting thing.
Copy !req
1251. Johnny's brother, Jack,
wanted to be a pastor,
Copy !req
1252. and Johnny wanted
to be a singer.
Copy !req
1253. But now, Johnny Cash was
realizing Jack's dream,
Copy !req
1254. and he was both a preacher
and a singer.
Copy !req
1255. It was not a renunciation
of his career,
Copy !req
1256. but certainly,
the focus distracted him
from his commercial career.
Copy !req
1257. It was a price that
he was willing to pay.
Copy !req
1258. I am a professional entertainer.
That's what I am.
Copy !req
1259. If I have a calling,
that's what it is.
Copy !req
1260. But I'm called to be
a Christian entertainer,
Copy !req
1261. to be a Christian
before the world.
Copy !req
1262. You see, entertaining
is communicating,
Copy !req
1263. just like a preacher's job
is to communicate.
Copy !req
1264. But I communicate through
the spirit of the song,
Copy !req
1265. the meaning of the songs,
the words.
Copy !req
1266. In the late '70s
and the '80s,
Copy !req
1267. you would think John R. Cash
is at the top of the world.
Copy !req
1268. He should've been.
Copy !req
1269. He gets inducted into
the Country Music Hall of Fame.
Copy !req
1270. Ladies and gentlemen,
the Country Music Hall of Fame
Copy !req
1271. welcomes Mr. Johnny Cash.
Copy !req
1272. I'd like to say to
all the new entertainers
Copy !req
1273. that are coming on the scene,
to the young artists,
the singers,
Copy !req
1274. do it your way.
Copy !req
1275. Don't let yourself
get caught in a bag.
Copy !req
1276. And I'd like to also say this
to all the new artists,
Copy !req
1277. that, if you're concerned
about competition,
Copy !req
1278. don't write me off yet,
Copy !req
1279. because my dad, Ray Cash,
is sitting here tonight.
Copy !req
1280. He's 83 years old,
and if God lets me live
that long,
Copy !req
1281. that's 35 more years
that I'm gonna be out there
singing country songs.
Copy !req
1282. During that time,
Ray is getting sick.
Copy !req
1283. He is having to come to terms
Copy !req
1284. with that relationship.
Copy !req
1285. Johnny always
wanted the approval
of his father, Ray.
Copy !req
1286. So when Johnny began
to be successful,
Copy !req
1287. he took his mom and his dad.
Copy !req
1288. He took them to the White House
when he was invited
by President Nixon.
Copy !req
1289. Johnny was always trying
to impress his father.
Copy !req
1290. And he said, "My father never
told me he loved me."
Copy !req
1291. There. You gonna find—
Copy !req
1292. During the time
that Ray was dying,
Copy !req
1293. that was a very difficult time.
Copy !req
1294. And you listen to Rainbow,
the last Columbia Record,
Copy !req
1295. he sounds tired.
Copy !req
1296. There's no other word to say
that he was tired.
Copy !req
1297. He's gone from constant
chart-topping hits
Copy !req
1298. to nothing on the charts
in just a few short years.
Copy !req
1299. That's a strange place
Copy !req
1300. for one of the biggest-selling
artists in the world to be.
Copy !req
1301. Johnny was on top
for such a long time.
Copy !req
1302. And then, one day,
Copy !req
1303. Columbia Records dropped him.
Copy !req
1304. It was devastating.
Copy !req
1305. He felt betrayed and lost.
Copy !req
1306. You're like a train
going forward, you know,
Copy !req
1307. and now you have no track?
Copy !req
1308. The label
he had been with for 28 years,
Copy !req
1309. and whose doors
he kept open, was saying,
Copy !req
1310. "We don't want you anymore.
You're not needed."
Copy !req
1311. He suffered for his faith.
He didn't have to.
Copy !req
1312. He could've kept that
to himself.
Copy !req
1313. He did it because he thought
that that's what people needed,
Copy !req
1314. to hear from somebody
who had lived a life
like he had,
Copy !req
1315. a life of confusion,
a life of trouble.
Copy !req
1316. He was
very disappointed
and lost for a while there.
Copy !req
1317. The critics had
kind of turned away from him.
Copy !req
1318. He was not happy
with that position.
Copy !req
1319. The crowds at his shows
are shrinking.
Copy !req
1320. Radio air play is
virtually non-existent.
Copy !req
1321. It was
a humiliating experience
auditioning for 25 year olds
Copy !req
1322. when he had already been
Copy !req
1323. in the Country Music
Hall of Fame for six years.
Copy !req
1324. And that left John
kind of back to where he was
with those producers
Copy !req
1325. who didn't know him
and didn't get him
and didn't want to.
Copy !req
1326. And just wanted product
Copy !req
1327. and "let's just get the next
Johnny Cash record out."
Copy !req
1328. And he stopped caring
and going into the studio,
Copy !req
1329. and he had nothing
to say anymore.
Copy !req
1330. They didn't wanna listen to him,
and he didn't wanna
tell them anything.
Copy !req
1331. He thought
his career was over.
Copy !req
1332. While he was doing
one of his regular shows
in Southern California,
Copy !req
1333. this character
with a big beard
came backstage,
Copy !req
1334. and the man's name
was Rick Rubin.
Copy !req
1335. And that was the beginning.
Copy !req
1336. I got hungry
to be back in the studio,
Copy !req
1337. to be creative,
to put something down
for the fans to hear.
Copy !req
1338. And about that time
that I got to feeling
that way,
Copy !req
1339. my manager came to me
and talked to me about a man
called Rick Rubin.
Copy !req
1340. Rick came back
after the show and said
basically to my father,
Copy !req
1341. "I wanna make the music with you
that you've always
dreamed of making.
Copy !req
1342. Let's focus on you.
Copy !req
1343. Let's make this album
the most beautiful music
you've ever made."
Copy !req
1344. When I said,
"What're you gonna do with me
Copy !req
1345. that nobody else has been able
to do to sell records with me?"
Copy !req
1346. And he said,
"Well, I don't know
that we will sell records."
Copy !req
1347. He said, "I would like you
to go with me
Copy !req
1348. and sit in my living room
with a guitar
and two microphones,
Copy !req
1349. and just sing
to your heart's content
Copy !req
1350. everything you ever
wanted to record."
Copy !req
1351. I said,
"That sounds good to me."
Copy !req
1352. The next ten years,
from 1993 to 2003,
Copy !req
1353. by some, was claimed
the Second Coming,
some, the Third Coming,
Copy !req
1354. some said it was
the Fourth Coming
with Johnny Cash.
Copy !req
1355. He went into the studio
with Rick Rubin
Copy !req
1356. and the first
American Recordingsalbum
Copy !req
1357. was just my father
with his guitar.
Copy !req
1358. Johnny Cash was that good.
Copy !req
1359. He could just sit down
with a guitar and sing,
Copy !req
1360. and it was powerful.
Copy !req
1361. You can hear
the intimate story of the song.
Copy !req
1362. You can hear the beauty
of my father's voice.
Copy !req
1363. And if I didn't like
the performance on that song,
Copy !req
1364. I would keep trying it
until it felt...
Copy !req
1365. that it was coming out of me
and my guitar
and my voice as one,
Copy !req
1366. that it was right for my soul.
Copy !req
1367. Under the guidance
of Rick Rubin,
Copy !req
1368. Johnny Cash took it
all the way back to the sound
that he had in the beginning.
Copy !req
1369. Just the man and song
and guitar. Authentic.
Copy !req
1370. That authenticity spoke
to an entirely different
generation of people
Copy !req
1371. who had never heard
of Johnny Cash before.
Copy !req
1372. It also spoke to a generation
of Johnny Cash followers
Copy !req
1373. who longed to see him ride
the top of the sunrise
one more time.
Copy !req
1374. But while everyone was
looking at John,
June slipped away.
Copy !req
1375. June went
through a heart valve
replacement surgery,
Copy !req
1376. but the next night,
it, uh, it fails.
Copy !req
1377. It was hard.
It was real hard for John.
Copy !req
1378. As you get older,
you lose so many friends.
Copy !req
1379. And every time
you lose a friend,
Copy !req
1380. you feel a little piece
of your own life has been lost.
Copy !req
1381. And when my mother
passed away, Dad came to me
and he said,
Copy !req
1382. "You know, I was more in love
with your mom
than I ever had been."
Copy !req
1383. When people
would come in to try
to comfort him,
Copy !req
1384. he was comforting
them even more.
Copy !req
1385. He understood the race
had been run well,
Copy !req
1386. and that she was
in a better place.
Copy !req
1387. He was still teaching us
about life
Copy !req
1388. up until the very last day
he was on this Earth.
Copy !req
1389. - Are you bitter?
- Bitter?
Copy !req
1390. - Yeah. Angry?
- No.
Copy !req
1391. You know, you're a young guy.
You're only 70.
Copy !req
1392. No, I'm not bitter.
Why should I be bitter?
Copy !req
1393. I'm thrilled to death with life.
Copy !req
1394. - So you have no regrets?
- No regrets.
Copy !req
1395. And no anger at,
"Why did God do this to me?"
Copy !req
1396. Oh, no. No.
Copy !req
1397. I'm the last one
that would be angry at God.
Copy !req
1398. He was steadfast in that.
Copy !req
1399. He did not waver in that.
Copy !req
1400. He took what God wanted him
to bear, and he did.
Copy !req
1401. I have unshakable faith.
I've never been angry with God.
Copy !req
1402. I've never turned my back
on God, so to speak.
Copy !req
1403. I never thought
that God wasn't there.
Copy !req
1404. See, He's my counselor.
He's my wisdom.
Copy !req
1405. Only good things in my life
come from Him.
Copy !req
1406. - Looking back
at all that you've done...
- Ahem.
Copy !req
1407. do you have any regrets
about what you've done?
Copy !req
1408. I used to,
but I forgave myself.
Copy !req
1409. When God forgave me,
I figured I'd better do it, too.
Copy !req
1410. Where do you think
we go, afterwards?
Copy !req
1411. Where do we go?
Copy !req
1412. - When we die, you mean?
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1413. Oh.
Copy !req
1414. Well, we all hope
to go to Heaven.
Copy !req
1415. I ask him, I said,
"You mad at anybody?"
Copy !req
1416. He said, "I'm not mad
at anybody."
Copy !req
1417. And I said, "Do you got
any forgiveness
Copy !req
1418. you've not yet been able
to do with anybody?"
Copy !req
1419. He says, "No.
I've forgiven everybody
Copy !req
1420. and I hope everybody's
forgiven me that thought
that I should."
Copy !req
1421. Everything inside me
felt peaceful
Copy !req
1422. after that conversation,
that he settled up.
Copy !req
1423. He was in good standing.
Copy !req
1424. The final triumph
for him was the masterpiece
called "Hurt".
Copy !req
1425. That was a big moment.
Copy !req
1426. I think what was shocking
for a lot of people was
how frail Johnny was,
Copy !req
1427. but at the same time,
how he still maintained
Copy !req
1428. that strength
that we knew him for.
Copy !req
1429. But more than that,
what struck me
Copy !req
1430. was the bravery
that he was willing
to let it all hang out.
Copy !req
1431. When he was recording,
I say, "You sure
you wanna do this?"
Copy !req
1432. I said, "It's heavy. It's dark."
Copy !req
1433. You know? He said, "It's real."
Copy !req
1434. It just was true. It was true.
Copy !req
1435. He was wearing his humanity
on his sleeve
Copy !req
1436. for everyone to see.
Copy !req
1437. That's where art is
at its most impactful,
Copy !req
1438. is when it strikes someone
Copy !req
1439. and they have to ingest it,
Copy !req
1440. digest it enough to understand
Copy !req
1441. "how does this make me feel?"
and "where am I in this"?
Copy !req
1442. Dad was excited.
He was just like a kid.
Copy !req
1443. He was just like,
"Man, this is great! It's gonna
be a big hit!
Copy !req
1444. Everybody's gonna love it!"
Copy !req
1445. The guy was as willing
to show up real as it gets.
Copy !req
1446. To expose himself
that way,
Copy !req
1447. at the age that he was,
and after the career
that he's had,
Copy !req
1448. it was just all things at once.
Copy !req
1449. This is so honest that it's
devastatingly beautiful.
Copy !req
1450. I mean,
it makes you emotional
just thinking about it.
Copy !req
1451. Every artist wish
they could have
Copy !req
1452. sort of a swan song like that.
Copy !req
1453. But we have
to realize something.
Copy !req
1454. He didn't necessarily
see it as a swan song.
Copy !req
1455. He saw it as just an accurate
statement about his life
Copy !req
1456. and who he was
and where he'd been.
Copy !req
1457. He was
always the realist.
He was always the artist.
Copy !req
1458. He always wanted truth,
all the way until the end.
Copy !req
1459. Johnny asked me
what I thought about the song.
Copy !req
1460. I said, "I think
it's the greatest song
in your whole career,
Copy !req
1461. because you poured out
your life.
Copy !req
1462. The good, the bad,
and the ugly."
Copy !req
1463. In an unusual way,
"Hurt" was a gospel song, too,
Copy !req
1464. because it set up
what he wanted to say,
Copy !req
1465. the way he looked at things.
Copy !req
1466. I think
there was something
in Johnny's mind that said,
Copy !req
1467. "I have to leave people
with a thought."
Copy !req
1468. It makes perfect sense
Copy !req
1469. that that was the last song
we remember Johnny for.
Copy !req
1470. He grew old full
of grace and full of strength,
spiritually,
Copy !req
1471. which kept him as long
as it did physically.
Copy !req
1472. But "Hurt"
was kind of, I suppose,
the beginning of the end.
Copy !req
1473. Didn't wanna admit it,
Copy !req
1474. but I saw that light fading
in his eyes a little bit.
Copy !req
1475. He was getting tired.
Copy !req
1476. Family
would come and visit
Copy !req
1477. and those visits,
they had an air
of finality to them.
Copy !req
1478. He does not expect
that he's going to live.
Copy !req
1479. He called me
over to his house one day,
just close to the end.
Copy !req
1480. And he said, "Baby, sit down.
I gotta talk to you."
Copy !req
1481. And when he said that,
I knew it was serious.
Copy !req
1482. He said, "I wanna
ask you a question."
Copy !req
1483. He said, "If you walked
on the shores of Galilee
Copy !req
1484. and you looked up and you saw
Jesus walking toward you,
Copy !req
1485. and you knew He was gonna say
just one thing to you,
Copy !req
1486. what do you think He'd say?"
Copy !req
1487. Well, chills went all over me.
I didn't know how to answer it.
Copy !req
1488. I said, "Well,
I would hope He'd say
Copy !req
1489. I'm doing
what He called me to do,
Copy !req
1490. and that He's pleased
with that."
Copy !req
1491. And Johnny looked at me
and he said,
Copy !req
1492. "He would say to you,
'Feed my sheep.'"
Copy !req
1493. I said, "Yeah, He would.
Copy !req
1494. What do you think
He would say to you?"
Copy !req
1495. And he said, "Oh baby,
that's easy."
Copy !req
1496. He had tears
rolling down his face
and he said,
Copy !req
1497. "Come unto me all you that labor
and are heavy-laden
Copy !req
1498. and I'll give you rest,
for my yoke is easy
Copy !req
1499. and my burden is light."
Copy !req
1500. Johnny had many burdens
that he carried
throughout his life.
Copy !req
1501. There's the burden
of losing his brother Jack
in a tragic accident,
Copy !req
1502. the burden of the failure
of his first marriage,
Copy !req
1503. the burden of the bad decisions
he had made throughout
his life and his career,
Copy !req
1504. and the people that he had hurt.
Copy !req
1505. But here's Jesus saying,
"Come to me,"
Copy !req
1506. and as another translation
puts it,
Copy !req
1507. "I will refresh you with rest."
Copy !req
1508. Johnny was telling me,
"I'm going home.
Copy !req
1509. You do what God calls you to do.
Copy !req
1510. I'm going home. It's okay."
Copy !req
1511. I went
over to his house
Copy !req
1512. and I was about to go
on the road,
Copy !req
1513. and I just wanted to go
check in on him, hug his neck,
tell him I love him.
Copy !req
1514. And I had recorded
a song of his called
"The Walls of a Prison"
Copy !req
1515. that I wanted to play for him.
Copy !req
1516. And so, I played it for him
and I sat at his feet.
Copy !req
1517. He put his hand on me and said,
"Excellent, son."
Copy !req
1518. He said, "You got it."
Copy !req
1519. I knew he didn't wanna
hang out too long,
Copy !req
1520. so we talked a minute,
and before I left the room,
Copy !req
1521. he said, "Is there anything
in this room you want?"
Copy !req
1522. I said, "Just your love."
He said, "You got that."
Copy !req
1523. And as I was about to leave,
Copy !req
1524. he was sitting in his wheelchair
with his back to the window
Copy !req
1525. and the late afternoon light
was coming in.
Copy !req
1526. And I had my camera
all in my bag.
Copy !req
1527. And I said, "J.R.,
let me take your picture."
Copy !req
1528. And there was, like,
four frames,
Copy !req
1529. and the first three
he just kinda looked
like this. I said, "J.R."
Copy !req
1530. He reared up and he looked
like an old president.
Copy !req
1531. And when I got the negatives
back,
Copy !req
1532. I went, "There's the picture."
Copy !req
1533. Before I left the room,
I said, "How's your spirit?"
Copy !req
1534. He said, "Good." I said,
"You got plenty of rope left?"
Copy !req
1535. He said, "I got plenty of rope."
I said, "All right.
Copy !req
1536. I'll be home in 10 days,"
whatever it was.
Copy !req
1537. I didn't think it would come
while I was gone on that trip.
But it did.
Copy !req
1538. It's the death of a legend,
our top story this half hour.
Copy !req
1539. Johnny Cash is gone.
Copy !req
1540. The country music world
is saying goodbye
Copy !req
1541. to the legendary Man in Black.
Copy !req
1542. I was on the way home
from a concert
on the East Coast.
Copy !req
1543. And at three in the morning,
Copy !req
1544. somebody pulled the curtain
back in the bus and said,
Copy !req
1545. "Johnny Cash died."
Copy !req
1546. I cried and cried and cried,
Copy !req
1547. I felt the cutting of the pain,
Copy !req
1548. and then I quietly
said goodbye,
Copy !req
1549. "so long, in Jesus' name.
Copy !req
1550. Dark bird, watch you fly
Copy !req
1551. Dark bird, to another sky
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1552. And I'll bet you were a sight,
when you hit that cloud of love
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1553. And flew out the other side
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1554. In the form of a dove
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1555. Dark bird."
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1556. I know
we'll see him again.
I know we'll see him again.
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1557. And that's my blessed hope.
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1558. That was a hard time. It's hard.
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1559. I can live in a world
without "Johnny Cash,"
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1560. but I miss my brother.
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1561. I sure do miss him.
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1562. On his tombstone,
Johnny Cash had Psalm 19:14
written down,
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1563. which says,
"Let the words of my mouth
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1564. and the meditation of my heart
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1565. be acceptable
in your sight, O Lord."
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1566. You know, David, in his Psalms,
would write about his doubts,
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1567. his struggles,
the challenges that he faced,
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1568. and he would cry out to God.
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1569. Well, Johnny wrote
about those things, too.
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1570. He sang about trains
and murder and betrayal.
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1571. But he also sang about faith,
hope, and redemption.
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1572. To me, Johnny Cash is
the face of Redemption.
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1573. All of us who are believers,
have sinned,
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1574. we've all needed
that redemption. I know I have.
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1575. He showed us the way to go.
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1576. He gave us an example.
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1577. Even though my father
didn't necessarily
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1578. always live every step
correctly and true,
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1579. he knew the truth,
he believed the truth,
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1580. and he could speak the truth.
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1581. And just
because you have faith
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1582. doesn't mean you always make
the right decision.
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1583. But what it does guarantee is,
you'll have that foundation,
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1584. something that,
when you do fall,
something that will catch you.
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1585. And it's easy to point
to someone like a Johnny Cash,
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1586. and say,
"Oh, that guy took drugs."
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1587. Well, we all screw up,
every last one of us.
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1588. But God gave him the strength,
God gave him the grace,
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1589. and good people around him
to encourage him.
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1590. He tried,
to his last breath
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1591. to live right
and do the right thing.
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1592. But he was a human being
along the way.
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1593. Johnny's story is—
If that's not proof
that there is hope,
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1594. then I don't know
where else we can find it.
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1595. The strength
to get up and keep going,
it took more than energy.
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1596. He didn't have any energy.
It was faith.
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1597. I have had
many people come to me saying,
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1598. "I'm born-again
because of Johnny Cash,
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1599. because of his life
and his stand for Christ."
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1600. He gave them
something to believe in,
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1601. hope that there's a better way.
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1602. I don't think
that you can find a musician
over the last 50 years
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1603. that hasn't been influenced
in some way by Johnny Cash.
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1604. The Bibletells us
that the Christian life
is like a race.
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1605. There were
some stumbles and falls,
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1606. but the key is,
he ran his race to the end,
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1607. and he finished well.
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1608. That's what I love
about Johnny Cash,
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1609. is the fact
that he's willing to say,
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1610. "You know, I'm just a guy."
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1611. I think a lot of people
are realizing
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1612. what a great man he was
and what a good man he was,
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1613. and that he was a Christian
throughout it all.
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1614. He would want people
to see his story
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their own life,
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1617. He was a man
after God's heart,
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1618. and that's who John R. Cash
from Arkansas was.
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