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of the United States.
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Oscar Hubert,
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the last rites
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for all those thousands of Cubans
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and torture at Bay of Pigs.
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- Uh, I can't...
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a J. D. Tippit,
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did you fire that rifle?
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who would ever have thought
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Look at that lightning.
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- Huh?
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- Did you shoot the president?
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- I want you to check out his record.
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- All right. Thanks, Lou.
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he's been in trouble before.
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- These backyard photos
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Good husband.
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- He shot him!
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- It's the guy in the hat.
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- How could I forget?
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- I'm a bit of a pilot myself.
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in the war.
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Make yourself comfortable.
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427. No. If he did,
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we went to Houston...
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460. They're a wise bunch of birds.
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461. Your young friends also told us you had
no weapons in the car, Dave.
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462. Isn't it a bit difficult to hunt for
geese without a shotgun?
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463. Well...
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464. Yes,
I remember now.
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465. I'm sorry, Mr. Garrison.
I got confused.
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466. We got out near the geese,
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467. and only then did we realize we had
forgotten our shotguns.
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468. Stupid, right?
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469. Uh, so, of course,
we didn't get any geese.
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470. I see, Dave.
Well, thank you for your time.
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471. I'm sorry that this has to end
inconveniently for you,
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472. but I'm going to have to detain you for
further questioning by the FBI.
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473. Why, what's wrong?
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474. Dave, I find your story simply
not believable.
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475. Really?
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476. Come on.
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477. What part?
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478. Gentlemen,
this afternoon the FBI released
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479. David W. Ferrie of New Orleans.
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480. After extensive questioning
and a thorough background check,
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481. the Bureau found no evidence that
Mr. Ferrie
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482. - knew Lee Harvey Oswald,
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483. or has had any connection with
the assassination of President Kennedy.
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484. The special agent in
charge would like to make clear
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485. that Mr. Ferrie was brought in
for questioning
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486. by the District Attorney of
Orleans Parish, not by
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487. - the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
- I thought we were on the same side.
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488. What the hell business is it of theirs
to say that?
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489. Pretty fast, wasn't it?
The way they let him go.
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490. They must know something
we don't.
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491. So let's get on with our lives,
gentlemen.
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492. We got plenty of
home-grown crimes
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493. - to prosecute.
- President Johnson
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494. - has announced the creation of
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495. - a Blue Ribbon Presidential Commission
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496. - to probe the events in Dallas.
- Goodnight.
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497. The Commission will be headed by
Chief Justice
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498. of the United States Supreme Court,
Earl Warren,
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499. and is expected to head off
several Congressional
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500. and Texas inquiries into the
assassination.
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501. On the panel are Allen Dulles,
ex-chief of the CIA,
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502. Representative Gerald Ford,
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503. John J. McCloy,
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504. former head of the Chase
Manhattan Bank...
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505. Fucking out of control.
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506. All these hippies running around
on drugs.
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507. The way young people look,
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508. you can't tell a boy from a girl
anymore.
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509. I saw a girl the other day.
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510. She was pregnant.
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511. You could see her whole belly.
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512. And you know what she had
painted on it?
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513. "Love Child."
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514. Oh, it's a mess down there,
Jim.
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515. We've bitten off more Vietnam than we can
possibly chew.
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516. ‘Course it figures with that polecat
Lyndon in the White House.
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517. You know, I sometimes think things
have gone downhill
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518. since John Kennedy died,
Senator.
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519. Oh, don't get me started on that.
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520. Those Warren Commission fellas were
picking gnat shit out of pepper.
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521. Nobody's gonna tell me that kid did the
shooting job he did
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522. from that damn bookstore.
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523. - Here you go, Senator Long.
- Oh, thank you, honey.
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524. I thought the FBI test-fired the rifle to
see if it could be done?
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525. Sure, three experts,
and not one of them could do it.
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526. They're telling us that Oswald
got off three shots
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527. with world-class precision
from a manual bolt-action rifle
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528. in less than six seconds,
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529. and, according to his
Marine buddies,
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530. he got Maggie's drawers.
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531. You know what that means?
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532. He wasn't any good.
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533. Average man would be lucky to get
two shots off.
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534. - And I tell ya, the first shot
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535. - would always be the best.
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536. - Here, the third shot's perfect.
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537. Then they got that crazy bullet
zigzagging all over the place,
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538. so it hits Kennedy and Connally
seven times.
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539. Ah.
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540. One pristine bullet?
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541. That dog don't hunt.
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542. You know, something's always bothered me
about that from day one, too.
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543. Legal representation.
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544. Do you think there were other men
involved, Russell?
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545. If I were investigating the case,
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546. I'd round up 100 of the world's
best riflemen,
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547. find out which ones were in Dallas
that day.
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548. - You been duck hunting?
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549. I think Oswald's a good,
old-fashioned decoy.
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550. What'd he say?
"I'm just a patsy.”
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551. You better believe it.
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552. Jim?
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553. Honey?
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554. Dinner's just about ready.
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555. Got a surprise for you tonight.
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556. Tried something new.
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557. Jim?
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558. - Jim?
- What?
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559. Dinner.
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560. Smells good, but, honey, do you realize
that Oswald was interrogated
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561. for 12 hours after the assassination
with no lawyer present,
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562. and nobody--
nobody recorded a word of it?
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563. - Huh.
- I can't believe it.
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564. A police captain with 30 years experience
and a crowd of federal agents
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565. just had to know that with no record
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566. anything that Oswald says is gonna be
inadmissible in court.
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567. Well, honey, why don't we talk about it
at the dinner table.
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568. It's getting cold.
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569. Jasper,
what are you doing in here?
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570. Daddy said it was all right if I was
real quiet.
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571. Sure, it is.
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572. Honey, if I ever handled a minor felon
like that, it'd be all over the papers.
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573. And this is the alleged murderer of
the president!
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574. - Do you really think so?
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575. - Yeah. Again and again,
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576. - credible testimony is ignored,
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577. leads are never followed up,
its conclusions selective,
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578. there's no index,
it's one of the sloppiest,
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579. most disorganized investigations
I've ever seen.
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580. You know, dozens and dozens of witnesses
in Dealey Plaza that day
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581. are saying they heard shots coming from
the grassy knoll area
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582. in front of Kennedy,
not the book depository behind him,
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583. but it's all broken down
and spread around,
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584. and you read it and the point
gets lost.
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585. I never did believe it.
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586. Mattie, I'll do the dishes.
You take Eb on up.
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587. Night, baby.
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588. Elizabeth,
honey, your bedtime, too.
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589. Honey,
that was three years ago.
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590. We've all tried so hard to put it
out of our minds,
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591. you just keep digging it up
again.
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592. You're the DA of New Orleans.
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593. Don't you think the Kennedy assassination
is a little bit out of your domain?
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594. I mean all those important people
already studied it.
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595. All right, I just can't believe a man as
intelligent as Earl Warren
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596. ever read what was in
those volumes.
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597. Well...
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598. I mean,
maybe you're right.
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599. I'll give you one hour to solve
the case,
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600. till I can get these kids in bed,
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601. and then you're mine,
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602. and Mr. Kennedy will have to wait
until morning.
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603. Daddy,
look what I drew.
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604. Well that's something, Jasper.
What is it?
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605. - It's a rhino in a cage.
- Mm-hmm.
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606. - Can I stay up another hour?
- I don't think so, son.
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607. - Aw, Papa.
- Pickle and Snapper.
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608. My two favorite dancing partners.
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609. - All right. Goodnight, doodle bugs.
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610. - Goodnight.
- One hour, you hear?
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611. - Hmm?
- Some Saturday night date you are.
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612. Mama warned me this would happen if I
married such a serious man as you.
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613. - Oh, she did, huh?
- Mm-hmm.
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614. Well,
when I come up,
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615. I want to show you how Saturday
night got invented.
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616. All right?
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617. I sealed off the area,
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618. and I held off the trains until they
could be examined,
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619. and there were some transients taken
on at least one train.
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620. Mr. Bowers,
I believe you already talked to us
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621. about this matter before your deposition,
is that correct?
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622. Yes.
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623. Now, is there anything else you told us
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624. that I haven't asked you about
that you can think of?
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625. Nothing that I can recall.
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626. Witness is excused.
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627. Well, we got a long freight
that was in there.
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628. We pulled some people off there
and took them to the station.
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629. Do you mean some transients?
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630. Tramps and hoboes.
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631. And were all those questioned?
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632. Yes, sir, they were taken to
the station and questioned.
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633. And?
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634. Ask the question, ask the question.
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635. All right, let's go back
to that Amos Euins matter.
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636. Uh, yes, sir.
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637. Traffic had been cut off into the area
since about 10:00,
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638. but there were three cars that came in
during this time, from around noon
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639. - till the time of the shooting.
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640. The cars circled the parking lot
and left,
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641. like they was checking the area.
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642. And one of the drivers seemed to have
something he was holding up to his mouth.
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643. That last car came in about seven to 10
minutes before the shooting.
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644. It was a white Chevrolet,
four-door Impala,
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645. muddy up to the windows.
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646. Um...
towards the underpass,
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647. I saw two men.
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648. They were standing behind
a picket fence.
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649. They were looking up towards Main
and Houston,
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650. - following the caravan as it came down.
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651. Uh... one of them was middle-aged,
heavyset.
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652. The other man was younger.
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653. There were two other men.
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654. They were on the eastern end of
the parking lot,
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655. - and each of them had uniforms.
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656. At the time of the shooting,
there seemed to be some
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657. commotion.
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658. I just am unable to describe...
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659. - A flash of light or smoke or...
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660. - something...
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661. - which caused me to feel that
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662. something out of the ordinary
had occurred there,
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663. - on the embankment.
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664. Goddamn.
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665. No!
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666. Jim?
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667. - You all right?
- Oh, honey, it's incredible.
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668. What?
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669. The whole thing.
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670. A lieutenant colonel testifies that
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671. Lee Oswald was given a Russian language
exam as part of his Marine training
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672. - only a few months before he defects
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673. to the Soviet Union.
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674. - A Russian exam!
- I can't believe it.
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675. Honey,
it's 4:30 in the morning!
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676. I have five kids
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677. - gonna be awake in an hour and--
- Honey, in all my years in the military,
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678. I never knew a single man who was given
a Russian test.
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679. Oswald was a radar operator.
He--
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680. He'd have about as much use for--
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681. - for Russian as a cat has for pajamas.
- These books...
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682. have gotten to your mind,
Mr. Garrison.
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683. And then this-- this colonel.
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684. - He makes it sound like nothing, he says
- I wish you'd stop reading them.
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685. - Oswald did badly on his test. He--
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686. he got only two more Russian words
right than wrong.
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687. - Ha! That's like me saying Touchdown here
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688. is not very intelligent because I beat him
three games out of five
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689. the last time we played chess.
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690. What? Are you gonna...
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691. stay up all night every night,
for what?
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692. So you'll be the only man in America
that's read all 26 volumes
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693. - of the Warren Report?
- Do I have to spell it out for you?
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694. Lee Oswald was no ordinary soldier,
he was--
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695. He was probably in military
intelligence.
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696. That's why he was trained
in Russian.
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697. - Let's go back to sleep.
- There's no accident he's in Russia.
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698. Let's go back to sleep.
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699. Goddammit, dear,
I've been sleeping for three years!
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700. Morning, boys.
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701. Ready for a walking tour?
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702. 7:30 Sunday morning.
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703. It's not exactly fresh blood we're
sniffing here, boss.
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704. Old stains, Bill,
but just as telling.
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705. 531 Lafayette Street.
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706. Remember whose office this was
in '63?
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707. Sure, Guy Banister.
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708. Ex-FBI man.
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709. Died couple years ago.
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710. Banister headed the Chicago office.
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711. When he retired,
he became a private eye here.
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712. I used to have lunch with him.
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713. John Birch Society,
Minutemen.
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714. - Oh yeah, I remember him now.
- Slightly to the right of Attila the Hun.
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715. He used to recruit college students
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716. to infiltrate radical organizations
on campus.
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717. Headed the Anti-Communist League
of the Caribbean.
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718. All out of this office.
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719. Come around here,
I want to show you something.
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720. See that?
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721. Now, take a look here.
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722. 544 Camp Street.
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723. 531 Lafayette Street.
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724. Same building, right?
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725. But with different addresses and
different entrances,
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726. both going to the same place,
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727. to the office upstairs.
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728. Guess who used this address?
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729. Lee Harvey Oswald.
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730. Now how do we know he was here?
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731. ‘Cause this office address
was stamped
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732. on the pro-Castro leaflets
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733. he was handing out in the summer
of '63
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734. down on Canal Street.
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735. Now these are the same leaflets they found
in his garage in Dallas.
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736. What's this?
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737. What the hell is this doing on
this piece of paper?
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738. After the arrest, 544 Camp Street
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739. never appeared on the pamphlets again.
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740. Asshole.
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741. He was arrested that day for fighting with
some anti-Castro Cubans,
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742. but actually he had contacted them
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743. a few days earlier as an ex-Marine
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744. trying to join their anti-Castro
crusade.
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745. When they heard he was now
pro-Castro...
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746. well, they paid him a visit.
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747. What is this Fidel shit?
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748. You lied to me, you hypocrite!
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749. Liar!
Son of a bitch!
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750. People,
do not take this paper.
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751. This is communist propaganda.
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752. Carlos,
if you want to hit me, hit me.
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753. Come on, you pinko shit.
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754. Go back to Moscow, communist!
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755. - There was no real fight,
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756. and the arresting lieutenant later said
he felt it was a staged incident.
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757. - Break it up!
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758. In jail, Oswald has a private session
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759. with Special Agent John Quigley
of the FBI.
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760. Oswald is released,
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761. and Quigley destroys his notes from
the interview.
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762. The arrest gets him a lot of publicity
and as a result...
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763. Oswald appears on a local
TV debate.
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764. But you-- you are a communist,
are you not?
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765. Uh, no,
Mr. Bringuier.
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766. Uh, I am not a communist.
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767. I'm a Marxist-Leninist.
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768. You are not a communist,
but you are a Marxist-Leninist?
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769. What is the difference?
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770. Now, here's another one for you.
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771. What would you say
if I told you...
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772. Lee Oswald was trained in the Russian
language when he was a Marine?
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773. I'd say he was probably getting
intelligence training.
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774. Well, Lou,
you were in the Marines.
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775. Who would be running
that training?
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776. Office of Naval Intelligence.
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777. Take a look across the street.
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778. Post office.
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779. Upstairs in 1963, that was the
Office of Naval Intelligence.
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780. And just by coincidence, Banister,
before he was FBI, was ONI.
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781. And what's that little saying
they have?
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782. "Once ONI, always ONL."
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783. Well, he likes working near
his old pals.
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784. Bill...
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785. Lou, we are standing in the heart of the
United States government's
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786. intelligence community
in New Orleans.
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787. That's the FBI there, all right?
That's the CIA.
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788. That's the Secret Service.
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789. That's the ONI.
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790. Now, doesn't this seem to you...
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791. a rather strange place for a communist
to spend his spare time?
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792. What you driving at, boss?
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793. We're going back into the case,
Lou.
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794. Murder of the president.
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795. Good Lord,
wake me up, I must be dreaming.
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796. No, you're awake,
Bill, and I'm deadly serious.
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797. We're going to start by tracking down your
anonymous source
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798. from three years ago.
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799. Now how'd you find out David Ferrie drove
to Texas that day?
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800. Hell, I can't remember last night,
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801. let alone three years ago,
boss.
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802. You're not under
cross-examination here, Jack.
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803. What I need is a little clarification
about the night
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804. - Guy Banister beat you over the head.
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805. Now don't tell me you don't
remember that,
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806. all right,
‘cause you called our office.
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807. You called our office from your
hospital bed,
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808. and you were hopping mad
about it.
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809. Now, here's my problem.
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810. You told me you and Guy were good
friends for a long time.
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811. More than 10 years.
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812. - And he never hit you before?
- No, he never touched me.
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813. Yet on November 22nd, 1963,
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814. - the day of the president's murder,
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815. - the police report says...
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816. Says he pistol-whipped you with a
.357 Magnum.
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817. It also says you had an argument about
the phone bill.
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818. - Here, take a look at it.
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819. Well, does a simple argument over a
phone bill sound like
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820. a believable explanation
to you?
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821. There's more to it than that.
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822. How much more?
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823. I don't think I should talk about it.
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824. Well, I'd ask Guy,
we were friendly, you know.
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825. Heart attack, wasn't it?
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826. You buy what you read in
the papers.
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827. You have other information?
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828. - I didn't say that.
- You have other information?
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829. I didn't say that. All I know is that
he died suddenly.
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830. Just before the Warren Report
came out.
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831. Why did Guy beat you,
Jack?
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832. You didn't see a goddamn thing!
You didn't see a goddamn thing!
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833. You're the only one in the place!
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834. You didn't see a goddamn thing!
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835. Oh, hell. I guess since Guy's dead,
it don't matter no more.
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836. It was about all those...
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837. people that was hanging around the office
that summer.
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838. See, I was never part of the operation,
you know.
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839. I was just there taking care of their
private eye work,
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840. you know,
as it came in for Guy.
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841. Not much did,
but that's why I was there.
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842. It was a nuthouse.
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843. All the Cubans coming and going.
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844. I mean, Christ,
they all looked the same to me.
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845. You gonna play with this rifle or you
gonna pack it? Come on.
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846. Dave Ferrie.
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847. You know about him?
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848. - Yeah, we know Dave. Was he there?
- Mmm.
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849. Christ, he practically lived there.
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850. Don't fuck this one up.
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851. See, the whole thing it was...
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852. the whole cloak and dagger stuff,
you know.
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853. They called it
"Operation Mongoose."
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854. Whole idea was they were gonna train
these Cuban exiles, you know,
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855. - for another invasion of Cuba.
- Mm-hmm.
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856. Why, hell, Banister's office,
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857. that was part of the supply line,
you know,
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858. from Dallas through New Orleans
to Miami.
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859. - They were stockpiling arms, explosives.
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860. All this right under the noses of
the intelligence community
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861. - in Lafayette Square?
- Yeah, oh yeah.
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862. Everybody knew everybody,
you know,
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863. they were all part of
the network.
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864. They were all working for
the CIA!
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865. You know, pilots,
and them Black Operators,
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866. and the-- the civilians,
and military.
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867. Hell, everybody in those days was
running guns somewhere.
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868. Fort Jefferson, Bayou Bluff,
Morgan City, you name it.
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869. Oh, McAllen, Texas,
yeah, big gun-running operation.
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870. Banister. Now, tell-- where--
Where does he fit in all this?
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871. He was running his camp up north
of Lake Pontchartrain.
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872. You know, Ferrie was doing a lot
of the training.
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873. - They had a shooting range.
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874. Lot of tropical territory, you know,
like you got in Cuba.
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875. - Some Americans were trained there, too.
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876. - A few. Nazi types, mercenaries.
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877. Ferrie, though,
Jesus, he was the craziest.
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878. Anyway,
late summer, the whole--
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879. the party was over.
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880. ‘Cause Kennedy didn't want another one
of them Bay of Pigs, so he...
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881. - he told the FBI, "Shut up the camps,”
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882. you know, and confiscate the napalm,
C-4, and the stuff like that.
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883. So I think that the G-men,
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884. they were just going through the motions
for Washington.
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885. See, their hearts were still with their
old FBI buddy Banister.
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886. Oswald?
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887. Yeah.
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888. - Yeah, what?
- He was there, too. He was there.
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889. He was there,
sometimes meeting with Banister.
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890. Give me an allowance, you know,
because I got expenses...
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891. With the door shut.
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892. Other times...
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893. you know,
shooting the bull with Ferrie,
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894. whatever,
but he was there, all right.
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895. Anything more specific,
Jack?
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896. It's important.
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897. One time the secretary got upset,
I remember.
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898. I can't believe it,
Mr. Banister.
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899. Lee Oswald is down on Canal Street
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900. handing out communist leaflets
supporting Castro.
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901. It's okay, Delphine.
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902. He's with us, it's okay.
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903. Was anyone else involved at
Banister's level?
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904. Oh, yeah. One guy, I don't know.
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905. Big, white hair.
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906. I saw him come in the office once,
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907. but he looked out of place.
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908. You know,
like a society guy.
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909. And I can't remember his name,
but Oswald was with him.
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910. But he had something to do with money
‘cause Banister, you know,
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911. he never kissed anybody's ass--
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912. Ooh, he kissed his.
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913. I don't... uh...
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914. Clay something.
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915. Yeah.
That was his name, Clay.
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916. - Clay.
- Bertrand?
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917. - Bertrand, yeah! Yeah, that--
- Clay Bertrand.
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918. - Clay Bertrand.
- Well, I don't know.
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919. I don't know.
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920. - Uh... maybe not. I got to go.
- No, that's right. Clay Bertrand.
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921. - No, no. That's right.
- No, I got to go.
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922. He was in the Warren Report.
He got Oswald a lawyer.
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923. - Was Kennedy ever discussed, Jack?
- I don't know.
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924. - The assassination, Jack?
- No.
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925. Never. Not with me.
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926. - Look, I've-- I got to go.
- Hold on.
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927. - That's all I'm gonna say.
- Hold on, Jack.
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928. - I've said enough.
- Hold on. What's the problem?
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929. - What's the problem?
- What's the problem?
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930. Do I have to spell it out for you,
Mr. Garrison?
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931. Nobody knows what we're talking
about, here, Jack.
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932. Oh, you are so naive.
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933. When'd you first do business
with this Bertrand?
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934. Pipe the bimbo in red.
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935. Mm-hmm. Lordy.
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936. Yeah, she's cute all right,
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937. - but not half as cute as you, Deano.
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938. Thank you.
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939. You should try a legitimate line
of business.
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940. Why are you dancing on my head for,
my man?
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941. We been thicker than molasses pie
since law school.
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942. ‘Cause you keep conning me, Dean,
I read your testimony
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943. - to the Warren Commission--
- There you go again!
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944. - Grain of salt!
- You tell them the day after
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945. - Two sides to every coin!
- the assassination,
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946. you're called on the phone by this
Clay Bertrand
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947. and asked to fly to Dallas and be
Lee Oswald's lawyer.
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948. Right.
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949. That's pretty important,
Dean.
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950. You also told the FBI that,
when you met him,
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951. he's six foot two,
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952. then you tell the Commission
he's five foot eight.
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953. Now how the hell does a man
shrink like that, Dean?
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954. They put the heat on,
my man, just like you're doing.
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955. I gave them anything that popped in
my cabeza.
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956. Truth is,
I never met the dude.
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957. Oh, wonderful.
One likes friends that have friends.
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958. Indeed.
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959. I don't know what the cat
looks like,
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960. and, furthermore,
I don't know where he's at.
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961. All I know is sometimes he sends me
some cases.
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962. So one day he's on the phone,
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963. talking to me about going to Dallas,
repping Oswald.
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964. Did you ever speak to Oswald
in Dallas?
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965. Hell, no.
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966. Like I told that Bertrand cat
right off--
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967. Cashew piece?
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968. This ain't my scene, man.
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969. I deal in muni court.
I'm a hack in nigger town.
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970. Then how'd the hell did your name get in
the Warren Commission, Dean?
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971. Like I told to the Washington boys,
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972. Bertrand called that summer
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973. and asked me to help the kid upgrade
his Marine discharge.
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974. Well, I was led to believe that, uh,
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975. Mr. Bertrand said that he would
take care of any--
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976. Oh, that's fine.
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977. Hello,
to whom am I speaking?
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978. I'm Clay Bertrand.
Whatever they owe, I guarantee.
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979. There wasn't no conspiracy, Jim.
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980. If there were, why the hell didn't Bobby
Kennedy prosecute it as attorney general?
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981. He was his brother,
for Christ's sake.
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982. How the fuck all those people could keep
a secret like that, I don't know.
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983. It was Oswald.
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984. - He was a fruitcake, you know.
- I think we're having
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985. - Hated this country.
- a communication problem, Dean.
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986. I know you know who Clay
Bertrand is, all right?
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987. Now stop eating that damn crabmeat
a minute and listen.
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988. I'm aware of our friendship...
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989. but I want you to know I'm gonna call you
in front of the grand jury.
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990. And you lie to the grand jury as
you've been lying to me,
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991. I'm gonna charge you
with perjury.
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992. All right, I took nine judges on right
here in New Orleans, Deano.
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993. I beat 'em all.
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994. So am I communicating with you?
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995. Is this off the record,
Daddy-0?
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996. Good.
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997. In that case,
let me sum it up for you real quick.
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998. If I answer that question you
keep asking...
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999. if I give you the name of the
big enchilada, you know...
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1000. then it's "bon voyage, Deano."
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1001. I mean like permanent.
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1002. I mean like a bullet in my head,
you dig?
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1003. You're a mouse fighting a gorilla.
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1004. Kennedy is as dead as that crabmeat.
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1005. The government's still breathing.
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1006. - You wanna line up with a dead man?
- Read my lips, Deano.
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1007. Either you dance into the grand jury with
the real identity of Clay Bertrand
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1008. or your fat behind is going to
the slammer.
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1009. Now, do you dig me?
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1010. - You're as crazy as your mama.
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1011. Goes to show it's in the genes.
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1012. You have any idea what you're getting
yourself into, Daddy-O?
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1013. The government's gonna jump all over
your head, Jimbo,
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1014. and go "cock-a-doodle-doo."
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1015. Good day to you, sir.
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1016. District Attorney
Garrison to see Prisoner 5388,
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1017. Ward Block 237B.
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1018. We don't need no gates out there
with that swamp.
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1019. Many of 'em gone in there,
ain't none of 'em come out.
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1020. Hey, Willie!
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1021. O'Keefe!
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1022. You got visitors here.
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1023. You don't give ‘em no trouble now,
you hear me boy?
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1024. - How you doing, Mr. Broussard?
- Hey, let's go, Willie.
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1025. I want to thank you,
Mr. O'Keefe, for this time.
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1026. I ain't got nothin' but time,
Mr. Garrison.
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1027. Minutes, hours, days, years of 'em.
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1028. Time just stands still here,
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1029. like a snake sunnin' itself on the road.
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1030. - Clay Bertrand, Willie?
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1031. Yeah, Clay.
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1032. I met him sometime in June of '62 at the
Masquerade Bar.
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1033. Dave Ferrie took me there,
for the express reason to meet him.
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1034. For sexual purposes?
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1035. Well, yeah.
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1036. Did he pay you for this?
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1037. Twenty dollars each time.
Hell, ain't no secret.
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1038. That's why I'm in here for.
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1039. Anything else unusual about him
you'd be able
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1040. - to describe in a court of law?
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1041. I remember he had some kinda
thing wrong with his leg.
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1042. He'd limp.
You know, don't get me wrong,
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1043. he's not one of those "limp wrists."
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1044. He's a butch John, I mean, you'd meet him
on the street, you'd never snap.
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1045. - You could play poker with him,
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1046. go fishing with the man,
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1047. you'd never snap in a million years.
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1048. One night we was over at Dave Ferrie's
place having a party.
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1049. It was sometime late in the
summer of '63.
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1050. There was about nine or 10
people there. Cubans.
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1051. You know, friends of Dave, been doing
some stuff in the bush with him.
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1052. Place was a mess, man.
Dave's mind was a mess.
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1053. Has all these mice cages all over ‘cause
he's working on this cure for cancer.
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1054. - Viva Cuba libre!
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1055. Dave's smart, though,
he's sharp.
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1056. Speaks five languages.
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1057. He knows philosophy, medicine,
military history, politics.
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1058. Said he wanted to be a priest but...
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1059. they defrocked him ‘cause
he was queer.
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1060. And that's where you met Oswald for
the first time?
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1061. - Yeah, strange guy.
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1062. Dave introduced him as...
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1063. Willie, why don't you say hello to
Leon Oswald.
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1064. Hey, how you doing, man?
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1065. What the fuck is he doing here?
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1066. Fuck you, motherfucker!
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1067. Okay, okay, come on, come on,
come on.
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1068. - Leon's in a bad mood.
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1069. Don't get excited,
he's all right.
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1070. Would you say that this "Leon" was
actually Lee Harvey Oswald?
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1071. Fuck yeah!
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1072. Hey, man,
I got no reason to lie to you.
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1073. I'm already in jail.
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1074. Go on, Willie.
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1075. Finally,
they got outta there,
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1076. and I found myself alone
with Dave
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1077. and this Leon,
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1078. two of the Cubans,
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1079. and this guy Bertrand.
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1080. Kennedy.
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1081. - Kennedy.
- Dave pulled out these clippings
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1082. - Kennedy, fuckin' Kennedy!
- he'd been carrying around, you know...
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1083. - He fucked us
- He'd been obsessed with Castro
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1084. - in '61 and '62
- and Kennedy for months.
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1085. - and he's fuckin' us now!
- He started in again.
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1086. Fuckin' little asswipe
closed down the camps,
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1087. took all our C-4,
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1088. took 10,000 fuckin' rounds,
3,000 pounds of gunpowder,
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1089. all our fuckin' weapons!
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1090. I tell ya...
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1091. Shit, you wanna free Cuba?
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1092. You got to whack out the
fuckin' Beard.
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1093. Yeah, well,
that faggot Kennedy won't let us.
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1094. Our hands are empty,
how can we kill him?
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1095. It's a real problem getting at him,
Castro has informers on every block.
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1096. Bullshit.
They got all kinds of new stuff.
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1097. I can show you dozens of fuckin' poisons.
Just stick it in his food.
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1098. He'd die in three days.
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1099. No trace!
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1100. We can put something in his beard,
make his beard fall out.
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1101. He'll look fuckin' ridiculous without
his beard.
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1102. The real problem is...
is that fucking Kennedy.
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1103. He's doing all kinds of deals...
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1104. ...Khrushchev. Licking his ass.
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1105. An inspired act of God should
happen here, okay?
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1106. And put a Texan in the
White House!
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1107. Then the Cubans left.
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1108. Dave was drunk now,
really drunk.
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1109. - He started in on Kennedy again.
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1110. ‘Cause I will kill.
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1111. Right in the White House,
I'll stab him right in his fuckin' heart!
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1112. - Somebody got to get rid of this fucker.
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1113. Come on, Dave.
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1114. You ain't never gonna get that
son of a bitch.
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1115. No? It won't be long,
mark my words.
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1116. - That fucker'll get what's coming to him.
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1117. It can be blamed on Castro.
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1118. The whole country'll want to
invade Cuba.
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1119. All we got to do is get Kennedy in
the open.
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1120. David, David, always some harebrained
scheme or another.
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1121. Oh!
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1122. What have we here?
Let's have some more champagne.
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1123. - Shall we?
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1124. What about the Secret Service,
the cops?
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1125. If it's planned right,
it's no problem.
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1126. - Look how close they got with de Gaulle.
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1127. Eisenhower was always
riding around in an open top.
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1128. We need three mechanics in three
different locations.
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1129. An office building with a
high-powered rifle.
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1130. Triangulation of crossfire,
that's the key.
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1131. - That's the key.
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1132. The diversionary shot gets the Secret
Service looking the other way.
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1133. Boom! You get the kill shot.
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1134. The crucial thing is one man has to
be sacrificed.
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1135. Then, in the commotion of the crowd,
the job gets done.
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1136. The others fly out of the country to
someplace with no extradition.
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1137. Why don't we drop this subject...
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1138. it's one thing to engage in badinage
with all these youngsters,
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1139. but this sort of thing could be so
easily misunderstood.
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1140. Ouch! Ow! Ouch!
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1141. I didn't think much about it at the time.
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1142. It's just bullshit, you know.
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1143. Everybody likes to make themselves out to
be something more than they are.
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1144. Especially in the homosexual
underworld.
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1145. But when they got him, man...
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1146. I got scared...
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1147. Real scared.
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1148. And that's when I got popped.
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1149. You realize the things you're
saying, Willie,
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1150. are gonna be attacked by a lot of
different people.
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1151. Oh, bring all those
motherfuckers on, man!
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1152. Bring their college degrees in here,
I got nothin' to hide.
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1153. You can't buy me.
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1154. - They can't buy me.
- I don't wanna buy you.
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1155. - I don't even need this damn parole.
- Nobody--
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1156. - What are you talking about, parole?
- See, this is about the truth coming out.
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1157. You a goddamn liberal, Mr. Garrison.
You don't know shit...
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1158. ‘cause you never been fucked
in the ass!
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1159. This ain't about justice.
You think this is about justice?
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1160. No, this is about order.
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1161. Who rules.
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1162. ‘Cause, see,
fascism is coming back.
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1163. Nobody wants to buy you,
no one's promising you a parole, here.
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1164. I want to be perfectly clear
about that.
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1165. What I need to know is why.
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1166. All right?
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1167. Why are you telling us this?
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1168. ‘Cause that motherfucker Kennedy...
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1169. stole that motherfucking election,
that's why.
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1170. Nixon...
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1171. was gonna be one of the great presidents
till Kennedy wrecked this country.
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1172. Got niggers all over the place asking for
their damn rights.
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1173. Why you think we got all this
crime now?
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1174. He promised those motherfuckers too
goddamn much, you ask me.
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1175. Revolution's coming,
bullshit, man.
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1176. Fascism is coming back.
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1177. I'm gonna tell you this.
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1178. The day that communist son of a bitch died
was a great day--
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1179. a great day for this country.
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1180. And I just hate to think that they blame
it on some silly fuckin' Oswald.
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1181. Didn't know shit anyway, man.
People got to know.
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1182. People got to know why
he was killed.
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1183. Because he was...
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1184. a communist.
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1185. Go ahead, man.
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1186. You go ahead,
you put me on the stand,
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1187. I'll tell the same goddamn story!
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1188. Don't matter fuck all to me!
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1189. All right, Willie.
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1190. Thank you.
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1191. We'll be in touch.
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1192. All right.
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1193. Hey, you know, you're not a
bad-looking man, Mr. Garrison.
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1194. Not bad-looking at all.
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1195. I get outta here,
I'm gonna come see you.
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1196. We could have some fun!
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1197. None of their testimony's gonna
hold up in court, chief.
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1198. Hell, all three of 'em have reputations
lower than crocodile piss.
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1199. Does that bother you, Bill?
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1200. I always wondered in court why it is
because a woman's a prostitute,
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1201. she has to have bad eyesight.
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1202. Now go find this Clay Bertrand.
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1203. Start by checking around
the Quarter.
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1204. And the six of us, with almost
no budget and in secret,
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1205. are gonna solve a case that the Warren
Commission couldn't solve?
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1206. I didn't pick you because of your
legal skill, you know.
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1207. Gee, thanks, boss.
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1208. But because you're a fighter.
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1209. I like a man who's not afraid
of bad odds.
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1210. Mr. Garrison, how are you?
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1211. Remember me?
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1212. I surely do.
Did you vote for me?
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1213. I certainly did, sir.
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1214. We sang together at the Royal Orleans,
remember?
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1215. Yeah, we sang...
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1216. "You're the Cream in My Coffee."
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1217. Mr. Garrison, we haven't seen
enough of you lately.
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1218. Been too busy, Paul.
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1219. Elected men, they can't have as much fun
as they used to.
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1220. It's always nice to see you.
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1221. Pleasure to serve you,
always.
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1222. - Hey, Jim.
- How are you?
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1223. - Good seeing you again.
- Nice to see you.
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1224. - Hey, Jim.
- Al.
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1225. - Jim.
- Welcome back, Lou.
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1226. - Paul.
- Yes?
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1227. You think I could get a martini?
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1228. Been waiting for you, sir.
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1229. Perfect.
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1230. - Keep that table open for us, will ya?
- Yes, sir.
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1231. Find out anything on those hoboes?
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1232. - Photographer from...
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1233. The Dallas Times Herald got some
great shots of ‘em.
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1234. Never published.
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1235. Can't say that comes as a surprise
anymore.
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1236. They took ‘em to the sheriff's office
and they let ‘em go.
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1237. No record of 'em ever being
questioned.
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1238. Take a good look, chief.
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1239. Any of 'em look like the hoboes
you remember?
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1240. These two look pretty young.
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1241. Not a single frayed collar or cuff,
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1242. new haircuts, fresh shaves,
clean hands,
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1243. new shoe leather.
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1244. Well who the hell are they, then?
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1245. - Hi, Susie.
- Hello.
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1246. - I'm sorry I'm late.
- Come on, sit down.
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1247. This could be it. This could be it.
Let's start looking for ‘em.
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1248. - What about that railroad man,
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1249. - Lee Bowers?
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1250. Saw those men at the picket fence.
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1251. Graveyard. Dead. August this year.
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1252. - Single car accident...
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1253. on an empty road in Midlothian,
Texas.
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1254. The doctor said he was in some kind of
strange shock when he died.
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1255. We need to find more witnesses,
Lou.
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1256. Well, there was Rose Cheramie,
a whore.
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1257. She said she was a dope runner for
Jack Ruby.
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1258. And...
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1259. she said that Ruby knew Oswald
for years.
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1260. Can we talk to her?
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1261. She's dead, too.
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1262. - Hit and run.
- Oh, mama.
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1263. Why don't we go right to the
horse's mouth, chief?
Copy !req
1264. Jack Ruby's been rotting away in a Dallas
jail cell for three years.
Copy !req
1265. Maybe he's ready to crack.
Copy !req
1266. Can't do it, Bill.
Copy !req
1267. If we go to him, our investigation'll hit
the front pages by sunrise, all right?
Copy !req
1268. It'll blow up right in our face.
Copy !req
1269. Susie, what did you find out
on Oswald?
Copy !req
1270. Uh, negative on his tax records.
Copy !req
1271. Classified.
Copy !req
1272. First time I know a DA can't
get a tax record.
Copy !req
1273. So I put together a list of all the
CIA files on Oswald
Copy !req
1274. that were part of the Warren Report
and asked for them.
Copy !req
1275. - There are about 1,200 documents.
- Ooh.
Copy !req
1276. And can't get one of them.
Copy !req
1277. All classified as secret on the grounds
of national security.
Copy !req
1278. They gave me his grammar school
records!
Copy !req
1279. - It's a study of his pubic hairs!
Copy !req
1280. Lonely kid, no father.
Copy !req
1281. Joins the Marines at 17.
Copy !req
1282. He learns Russian,
Copy !req
1283. he acts overtly Marxist,
Copy !req
1284. but he's stationed at a top-secret
air base in Japan,
Copy !req
1285. where U2 spy flights over Russia
originate.
Copy !req
1286. He's discharged from the Marines,
supposedly because his mother's sick.
Copy !req
1287. Stays home three days,
Copy !req
1288. then with a 1,500-dollar ticket
Copy !req
1289. from a 203-dollar bank account,
he goes to Moscow.
Copy !req
1290. Mr. Oswald, do you understand
Copy !req
1291. the severity of the action that you're
about to take?
Copy !req
1292. Yes, I do, sir, and I am also very
familiar...
Copy !req
1293. I wish to renounce my citizenship,
Copy !req
1294. and become a Soviet citizen.
Copy !req
1295. I'm going to make known to them
Copy !req
1296. all information I have concerning the
Marine Corps.
Copy !req
1297. And he disappears for six weeks,
presumably with the KGB.
Copy !req
1298. Finally they shuttle him to a radio
factory in Minsk,
Copy !req
1299. where he lives as high on the hog as
he ever has.
Copy !req
1300. He's given 5,000 rubles,
Copy !req
1301. a roomy apartment with a balcony,
Copy !req
1302. has affairs with local girls.
Copy !req
1303. - Makes sense, he's a spokesman.
Copy !req
1304. But-- but he never writes,
speaks,
Copy !req
1305. or does any propaganda for
the Russians.
Copy !req
1306. He meets Marina...
Copy !req
1307. whose uncle is a colonel in
Soviet intelligence,
Copy !req
1308. at a trade union dance.
Copy !req
1309. She thinks he's Russian by the way
he speaks.
Copy !req
1310. Six weeks later they marry...
Copy !req
1311. have a daughter.
Copy !req
1312. The only explanation for the
royal treatment
Copy !req
1313. can be that he did give them
radar secrets,
Copy !req
1314. or fake secrets.
Copy !req
1315. Six months after he arrives
in Russia,
Copy !req
1316. Francis Gary Powers' U2
spy flight
Copy !req
1317. goes down in Russia.
Copy !req
1318. That plane was untouchable.
Copy !req
1319. Powers hinted that Oswald could
have given the Russians
Copy !req
1320. enough data to hit it.
Copy !req
1321. And as a direct result...
Copy !req
1322. the peace summit between Khrushchev
and Eisenhower failed.
Copy !req
1323. I can't help thinking...
Copy !req
1324. maybe someone in our military didn't want
the peace conference to happen.
Copy !req
1325. - Susie, come on.
- Maybe Oswald was a part of that!
Copy !req
1326. - Susie, you are an assistant DA, remember?
- It gets weirder.
Copy !req
1327. Just stick to what you can prove
in court.
Copy !req
1328. - Facts? You want facts?
- Please.
Copy !req
1329. - Susie, don't get sidetracked.
- From 1945 to '59--
Copy !req
1330. How does he get back to the States?
That's the point, all right?
Copy !req
1331. - Does he have any problems with Uncle Sam?
- No! None.
Copy !req
1332. The State Department issues him a new
passport within 48 hours,
Copy !req
1333. and loans him the money to travel.
Copy !req
1334. He's never investigated or
charged by the Navy
Copy !req
1335. - for revealing classified information.
Copy !req
1336. Or, as far as we know,
Copy !req
1337. debriefed by the CIA!
Copy !req
1338. Son of a bitch should've been
prosecuted as a traitor
Copy !req
1339. the minute he stepped off
the boat.
Copy !req
1340. What about Marina,
she have any problems getting out?
Copy !req
1341. No! None either.
Copy !req
1342. No, it's bizarre.
Copy !req
1343. It's next to impossible to get
Russian sweethearts out.
Copy !req
1344. This is a man who has defected
once already.
Copy !req
1345. It's crazy.
Copy !req
1346. Ordinary people...
Copy !req
1347. they get blacklisted for having
leftist affiliations.
Copy !req
1348. - It doesn't add up, does it?
Copy !req
1349. Next thing we know, he's living in
Dallas-Fort Worth October '62...
Copy !req
1350. working six months
Copy !req
1351. - at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall.
Copy !req
1352. This is a photographic firm that contracts
to make maps for the US Army.
Copy !req
1353. Oswald becomes chummy with the White
Russian community of Dallas,
Copy !req
1354. - all rabid anti-communists.
Copy !req
1355. It's odd.
Copy !req
1356. - His closest friend is an oilman...
Copy !req
1357. named George de Mohrenschildt,
Copy !req
1358. who's about 35 years older
than Oswald,
Copy !req
1359. who is only 23 and supposedly
broke.
Copy !req
1360. De Mohrenschildt is a member of the
Dallas Petroleum Club,
Copy !req
1361. speaks five languages,
Copy !req
1362. and was in French Vichy Intelligence
during the war.
Copy !req
1363. - Also rumored to have been
Copy !req
1364. a Nazi sympathizer.
Copy !req
1365. I think you really talk like a redneck...
Copy !req
1366. De Mohrenschildt draws a picture of Oswald
as an intellectual, well-read,
Copy !req
1367. speaks excellent Russian,
Copy !req
1368. a man who adored JFK.
Copy !req
1369. Oh.
Copy !req
1370. I think he's made some mistakes
regarding Cuba.
Copy !req
1371. I think he's doing a pretty good job.
Copy !req
1372. If he succeeds, in my opinion,
I think he'll make a great president.
Copy !req
1373. - A really handsome one, too.
- Yes.
Copy !req
1374. That's scenery, Susie,
now don't get sidetracked.
Copy !req
1375. This is the same man that, bottom line,
nailed Oswald to the Warren Commission
Copy !req
1376. as a potentially violent man,
and linked him to the rifle.
Copy !req
1377. Well, in that sense,
Castro is an experimenter.
Copy !req
1378. What you got there?
Copy !req
1379. You have a rifle in there?
Copy !req
1380. Lee...
Copy !req
1381. Tell me.
Copy !req
1382. What are you shooting at?
Copy !req
1383. Rabbits or fascists?
Copy !req
1384. I uh....
Copy !req
1385. - I hunt.
- You hunt?
Copy !req
1386. Mm-hmm.
Copy !req
1387. Hillbillies.
Copy !req
1388. We don't know he's CIA,
let's circle him very probable.
Copy !req
1389. - All right.
- Call him Oswald's handler.
Copy !req
1390. The Oswalds are introduced by
George de Mohrenschildt
Copy !req
1391. - to Janet and Bill Williams.
Copy !req
1392. I'm an engineer for
Bell Helicopter.
Copy !req
1393. It's through Janet Williams
Copy !req
1394. - in October '63
Copy !req
1395. that Lee gets the job at
the warehouse
Copy !req
1396. right smack on Elm Street at the
book depository.
Copy !req
1397. Presumably so he can now exercise
his intellect
Copy !req
1398. stacking school texts at
a dollar 25 an hour.
Copy !req
1399. Marina fights often with Lee
about many things.
Copy !req
1400. His secrecy,
their lack of money...
Copy !req
1401. She says that Lee is not sexually
adequate.
Copy !req
1402. - Lee, you'll hurt her! You'll hurt her!
Copy !req
1403. - Lee hits her on several occasions.
Copy !req
1404. Now, at the age of 24,
he rents a small room in Dallas
Copy !req
1405. under the alias of O. H. Lee.
Copy !req
1406. Do you want to look at television?
Copy !req
1407. - Are you all right, Mr. Lee?
Copy !req
1408. No, thank you. I'm fine.
Copy !req
1409. All I can find out about the Williams is
that their tax returns are classified,
Copy !req
1410. and that Bill Williams has links
through his family
Copy !req
1411. - to the CIA,
Copy !req
1412. and does classified work for
Bell Helicopter.
Copy !req
1413. - Bill's convenient separation from Janet
Copy !req
1414. allows Marina to move into
her house,
Copy !req
1415. where she suddenly becomes
Marina's best friend.
Copy !req
1416. - And, there,
Copy !req
1417. - Marina and Lee have a second daughter.
- I have to go away...
Copy !req
1418. - I have to go away...
Copy !req
1419. - Just for a short while.
Copy !req
1420. - What is the matter with this family?
Copy !req
1421. - / love Lee...
Copy !req
1422. And I... sorry him.
Copy !req
1423. You're sorry for him?
Copy !req
1424. Yes.
Copy !req
1425. When he's arrested,
Copy !req
1426. Marina buries him with the public.
Copy !req
1427. Her description of him is that of a
psychotic and violent man.
Copy !req
1428. I have too much facts...
Copy !req
1429. and facts tell me...
Copy !req
1430. that Lee shot Kennedy.
Copy !req
1431. After, they kept her locked away
for two months,
Copy !req
1432. surrounded by federal people,
Copy !req
1433. in fearing she'd be deported back
to Russia.
Copy !req
1434. All right, the poor woman was probably
suffering from nervous exhaustion.
Copy !req
1435. - They taught her how to answer.
Copy !req
1436. And when they think she's ready,
they buy her new dresses,
Copy !req
1437. polish her appearance,
and wheel her out on cue.
Copy !req
1438. I would like to thank the Warren
Commission...
Copy !req
1439. Now, Oswald was no angel,
that's clear.
Copy !req
1440. But who was he?
Copy !req
1441. I'm lost, boss.
Copy !req
1442. - What are we saying here?
Copy !req
1443. We're saying that when Oswald
went to Russia,
Copy !req
1444. he was not a real defector,
Copy !req
1445. that he was an intelligence agent on
some kind of mission
Copy !req
1446. for our government and remained one
till the day he died.
Copy !req
1447. That's what we're saying.
Copy !req
1448. Therefore, because
Oswald pulled the trigger,
Copy !req
1449. the intelligence community murdered
their own commander in chief?
Copy !req
1450. Is that what you're saying?
Copy !req
1451. I'll go you one better, Bill.
Copy !req
1452. Maybe Oswald didn't even pull
the trigger.
Copy !req
1453. Nitrate tests indicate he hadn't even
fired a rifle on November 22nd.
Copy !req
1454. And on top of that,
they didn't even bother to see
Copy !req
1455. if the rifle had been fired
that day.
Copy !req
1456. He had his palm print on the weapon.
Copy !req
1457. Well, it went to the FBI, Bill.
Copy !req
1458. FBI didn't find a goddamn thing.
Copy !req
1459. It comes back a week later and one guy in
the Dallas police department
Copy !req
1460. - suddenly finds a palm print.
Copy !req
1461. For all we know, it could've been
taken off Oswald in the morgue.
Copy !req
1462. There's no chain of evidence.
Copy !req
1463. I never could figure out why this guy
orders a traceable weapon...
Copy !req
1464. to this post office box,
Copy !req
1465. when he can go into any store
in Texas,
Copy !req
1466. give a phony name, and walk out with a
rifle which can never be traced.
Copy !req
1467. To frame him, obviously.
Copy !req
1468. There's a lot of smoke there,
but there's some fire.
Copy !req
1469. We're talking about our
government, here.
Copy !req
1470. No, we're talking about a crime, Bill.
Pure and simple.
Copy !req
1471. Y'all got to start thinking on a different
level, like the CIA does.
Copy !req
1472. Now we're through the looking glass,
here, people.
Copy !req
1473. White is black.
Copy !req
1474. And black is white.
Copy !req
1475. Just maybe, Oswald is exactly what
he said he was.
Copy !req
1476. A patsy.
Copy !req
1477. It's unbelievable.
You were here?
Copy !req
1478. Yes, sir.
Copy !req
1479. This is where I was sitting.
Copy !req
1480. Shots came from near that wooden
fence over there,
Copy !req
1481. - near the overpass.
Copy !req
1482. And I saw a man run from the fence toward
those railroad cars.
Copy !req
1483. I made it very clear to the
Warren people
Copy !req
1484. that one of the shots came from behind
that picket fence.
Copy !req
1485. I heard the report,
saw the smoke come out
Copy !req
1486. - six or eight feet above the ground,
Copy !req
1487. - right out from under those trees.
Copy !req
1488. - We, uh, all four of us...
Copy !req
1489. - all railroad men...
Copy !req
1490. - seen about the same thing.
Copy !req
1491. The smoke came from behind
the hedge.
Copy !req
1492. I was standing next to my friend,
Mary Moorman,
Copy !req
1493. who took the photograph when he
was killed.
Copy !req
1494. - Um...
Copy !req
1495. I stepped down to the curb and yelled,
"Hey, Mr. President!"
Copy !req
1496. Look over here!
Copy !req
1497. And then shots rang out.
Copy !req
1498. Mary fell to the ground right away.
Copy !req
1499. She was yelling, "They're shooting,
they're shooting, get down!"
Copy !req
1500. I just stood there watching.
Copy !req
1501. The driver had stopped.
Copy !req
1502. I don't know what was wrong with
that driver.
Copy !req
1503. Then...
Copy !req
1504. out of the corner of my eye...
Copy !req
1505. I saw a flash of light in the bushes...
Copy !req
1506. and that last shot....
Copy !req
1507. just ripped his head off.
Copy !req
1508. I looked up and I saw smoke coming from
over there, on the knoll.
Copy !req
1509. We came around here to look for tracks.
Copy !req
1510. It rained that morning,
and we found a bunch.
Copy !req
1511. Cigarette butts...
Copy !req
1512. and someone had stood about here.
Copy !req
1513. That's a good spot,
chief.
Copy !req
1514. For the head shot.
Copy !req
1515. Everything was just frozen.
Copy !req
1516. Seemed like people weren't even
breathing.
Copy !req
1517. Like you were looking at a picture.
Copy !req
1518. Except for this one man.
Copy !req
1519. I saw this one man
Copy !req
1520. running from the corner of the book
depository over towards the parking lot.
Copy !req
1521. It was about 11:00 in the morning.
Copy !req
1522. And I was driving west on Elm Street
toward the Triple Underpass
Copy !req
1523. in a rented car.
Copy !req
1524. A light blue Valiant.
Copy !req
1525. I will never forget that day.
Copy !req
1526. There was quite a bit of traffic and I
stopped alongside this green pickup truck.
Copy !req
1527. And I remember it being
very noticeable
Copy !req
1528. because it had one of its wheels parked up
on the side of the curb.
Copy !req
1529. And then when I saw the gun,
I thought...
Copy !req
1530. Well...
Copy !req
1531. the Secret Service is not very secret.
Copy !req
1532. Then the next morning, on Saturday,
I went down to the FBI office
Copy !req
1533. and the agents showed me
some photographs
Copy !req
1534. and I picked out three pictures
that looked
Copy !req
1535. generally like the driver
of the truck.
Copy !req
1536. That's the man.
Copy !req
1537. You mean you identified Jack Ruby
on Saturday?
Copy !req
1538. That's right.
Copy !req
1539. The day before he shot Oswald?
Copy !req
1540. That's right.
When I saw him on TV...
Copy !req
1541. I was shocked.
Copy !req
1542. I turned to my family
and I said,
Copy !req
1543. "That's the man I saw in the truck."
Copy !req
1544. But you didn't seem nearly so sure in your
statement to the Warren Commission.
Copy !req
1545. What about these others?
Copy !req
1546. You said one of them
might be him.
Copy !req
1547. They look a little bit like him,
but I'm sure this is the man.
Copy !req
1548. Well, it was him I was chasing up
the grassy knoll.
Copy !req
1549. I thought maybe our guys had
shot back.
Copy !req
1550. - And maybe we got one of them.
Copy !req
1551. When I got up to the parking lot,
Copy !req
1552. all I saw were railroad workers and
Dallas' finest.
Copy !req
1553. Secret Service, ma'am.
You're coming with us.
Copy !req
1554. I am not! I don't know you.
We got to find this shooter!
Copy !req
1555. I said, you're coming with us, and I want
those pictures in your pocket.
Copy !req
1556. - I don't have any, son of a bitch!
Copy !req
1557. - He put a hurt on me but good.
- Just smile and keep walking.
Copy !req
1558. But they musta been watching the whole
thing ‘cause they knew everything
Copy !req
1559. Mary and I had done all day.
Copy !req
1560. ‘Couse I guess I wasn't too hard to find,
wearing that red raincoat.
Copy !req
1561. How many shots did you say
you heard?
Copy !req
1562. Four to six.
Copy !req
1563. That's impossible!
Copy !req
1564. You heard echoes.
Copy !req
1565. Echoes!
Copy !req
1566. We have three bullets and three shots
that came from the book depository.
Copy !req
1567. That's all we're willing to say.
Copy !req
1568. No, sir.
Copy !req
1569. I saw a man shooting from over there
behind that fence.
Copy !req
1570. Now what are you going to do
about that?
Copy !req
1571. You got to go out there and get him!
Copy !req
1572. We have that taken care of.
Copy !req
1573. You only heard three shots, and you're
not to talk about this with anybody.
Copy !req
1574. No one. Do you understand me?
Copy !req
1575. Which is strange,
Copy !req
1576. ‘cause it's less than 20 minutes after
the assassination.
Copy !req
1577. Get her out of here.
Copy !req
1578. I knew something was
crooked as a dog's hind leg.
Copy !req
1579. Sure enough...
Copy !req
1580. When I read my testimony as published
by the Warren Commission,
Copy !req
1581. it was a fabrication from start
to finish.
Copy !req
1582. Well, that's what bothers me,
Mr. Garrison, is they've been altered.
Copy !req
1583. My statements.
Copy !req
1584. See, this one here says...
Copy !req
1585. "Mercer could not identify any of the
photographs
Copy !req
1586. "as being identical with the person that
she had observed
Copy !req
1587. slouched over the wheel of the green
Ford pickup truck.”
Copy !req
1588. Well, that is not true.
Copy !req
1589. I never said any such thing,
I recognized him and I told them so.
Copy !req
1590. Let's take your time,
be sure.
Copy !req
1591. I'm sure.
Copy !req
1592. And then here on the Dallas
sheriff's report,
Copy !req
1593. this is really strange.
Copy !req
1594. You see that notarized signature right
there at the bottom of each page?
Copy !req
1595. That is not my signature.
Copy !req
1596. And there never was any notary present
during any of my questioning.
Copy !req
1597. Mrs. Mercer,
as a former FBI man, it's...
Copy !req
1598. It's difficult to accept this.
Copy !req
1599. Beverly, tell Mr. Garrison about
the Carousel Club.
Copy !req
1600. Okay.
Copy !req
1601. Well, I used to go over there
a lot to see Jack,
Copy !req
1602. and especially my friend Jada,
who danced there.
Copy !req
1603. It was the real swinging spot in town.
Everybody came.
Copy !req
1604. Businessmen, politicians from Austin,
LBJ's friends.
Copy !req
1605. Dallas was a slowpokin' town
back then!
Copy !req
1606. I mean you chewed toothpicks,
Copy !req
1607. - played dominoes, spit, dated policemen,
Copy !req
1608. - but Jack, that was exciting.
Copy !req
1609. - There were always cops there.
Copy !req
1610. - Jack liked them around...
Copy !req
1611. even though he used to throw out
the drunks himself.
Copy !req
1612. He was kind of a
violent-tempered man, actually.
Copy !req
1613. Hey, how are ya!
Copy !req
1614. You know, everybody in those
days knew Jack was in the mob.
Copy !req
1615. Hey, sweetheart!
Copy !req
1616. Cops back then...
Copy !req
1617. - they were bad.
- Hey, Tippit.
Copy !req
1618. They'd shake you down for the money
in your pocket.
Copy !req
1619. You know,
there was this one case...
Copy !req
1620. - Yeah, um, Beverly, what about Lee?
Copy !req
1621. - Beverly, come over here!
- Well...
Copy !req
1622. One time I came in, and Jack introduced me
to these two guys.
Copy !req
1623. - Hi!
- Hi, baby.
Copy !req
1624. He says, "Beverly, I'd like you
to meet my friend, Lee."
Copy !req
1625. I want you to meet my friend,
Lee Oswald.
Copy !req
1626. I don't remember the
other guy's name,
Copy !req
1627. but he was a weird-looking guy.
Copy !req
1628. He had these eyebrows.
Copy !req
1629. He kinda looked like a buzzard!
Copy !req
1630. Well...
Copy !req
1631. Lee didn't make much of an impression.
He was...um...
Copy !req
1632. - Well, he really wasn't very good-looking,
Copy !req
1633. and he didn't look like he had
any money.
Copy !req
1634. And he was in a bad mood, so I didn't
pay him much mind.
Copy !req
1635. You know, I may not remember a name,
but I always remember a face.
Copy !req
1636. Then a couple weeks later when I saw him
on the television...
Copy !req
1637. I screamed,
"My God! That's him!"
Copy !req
1638. "That's Jack's friend!"
Copy !req
1639. Will you testify,
Beverly?
Copy !req
1640. I don't think so.
Copy !req
1641. Now I thought when we came here,
we had an agreement.
Copy !req
1642. I don't want to become another
statistic, like her.
Copy !req
1643. We could call you in, Beverly,
we could call you in.
Copy !req
1644. If they can kill the President of the
United States...
Copy !req
1645. do you think they're gonna think twice
about a two-bit showgirl like me?
Copy !req
1646. I understand the pressure you're under,
Beverly.
Copy !req
1647. Don't think for a minute I don't.
Copy !req
1648. We both do.
Copy !req
1649. Mr. Chief Justice...
Copy !req
1650. You understand that I cannot tell the
truth here, in Dallas?
Copy !req
1651. There are people here who do not want me
to tell the truth...
Copy !req
1652. who don't want me to have
a retrial?
Copy !req
1653. Mr. Ruby, I don't see why you don't
just tell us now.
Copy !req
1654. My life is in danger!
Copy !req
1655. If you request that I go back to
Washington with you,
Copy !req
1656. that is if you want to hear further
testimony from me,
Copy !req
1657. can you do that,
can you take me with you?
Copy !req
1658. No, that could not be done.
There would be no safe place for you.
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1659. We're not law enforcement officers.
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1660. Mr. Ruby, there's a great deal at stake
in this matter.
Copy !req
1661. See,
if I am eliminated...
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1662. there won't be any way of knowing any bit
of the truth pertaining to my situation.
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1663. And, consequently, a whole new form
of government
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1664. is going to take over this country.
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1665. Yeah!
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1666. And I know that I won't live to see you
some other time.
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1667. ‘Cause I want to tell the truth...
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1668. and then...
I want to leave this world.
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1669. The Zapruder film establishes
three shots in 5.6 seconds.
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1670. Here.
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1671. I'm Oswald.
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1672. Time me.
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1673. - Go.
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1674. Time?
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1675. Between six and seven seconds.
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1676. And that's without really aiming.
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1677. The key is the second and third shots came
almost right on top of each other.
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1678. It takes a minimum...
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1679. 2.3 seconds to recycle this thing.
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1680. The other problem is there was
a tree there...
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1681. blocking the first two shots
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1682. at the time they occur in the
Zapruder film.
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1683. Didn't J. Edgar Hoover say something
about that?
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1684. The leaves had fallen off in
November?
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1685. It was a Texas Live Oak, chief.
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1686. It sheds its leaves the first week
of March.
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1687. You take this Carcano, the world's
worst shoulder weapon,
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1688. and you try to hit a moving target
at 88 yards,
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1689. through heavy foliage. No way.
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1690. Here.
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1691. FBI tried two sets of tests.
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1692. Not one of their sharpshooters could
match Oswald's performance.
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1693. Not one.
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1694. And Oswald was, at best,
a medium shot.
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1695. The scope was defective on it, too.
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1696. I mean this is the whole essence of
the case to me.
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1697. The guy couldn't do the shooting.
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1698. - Nobody could.
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1699. And they sold this lemon to the
American public.
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1700. The Zapruder film was the proof they
didn't count on, Lou.
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1701. We got to get our hands on it.
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1702. That means we have to subpoena
Time-Life.
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1703. Let me ask you something,
Lou.
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1704. Why not just shoot Kennedy coming up
Houston?
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1705. There's plenty of time.
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1706. He's out in the open.
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1707. I know, I keep asking myself the
same thing.
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1708. It's a frontal shot.
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1709. Even if you miss him for
the first shot,
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1710. if he accelerates, you still got him
for the second shot.
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1711. Now, the only reason for waiting
to get him on Elm,
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1712. is you got him in a triangulated
crossfire, all right?
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1713. You put a team there,
down at the fence,
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1714. for a frontal shot,
flat, low trajectory.
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1715. Put a third team down here,
in this building, here, on a low floor,
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1716. when Kennedy gets to the kill zone there,
it's a turkey shoot.
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1717. How many men?
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1718. Okay.
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1719. One shooter,
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1720. one spotter on a radio,
maybe three teams.
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1721. I'd say these were professional riflemen,
too, chief, they're serious people.
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1722. Hunters.
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1723. Patient.
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1724. Takes skill to kill with a rifle,
chief.
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1725. You got to figure, that's why there's been
no execution of a chief executive
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1726. with one in 200 years.
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1727. - Three...
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1728. two...
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1729. - one...
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1730. Main Street's over there,
right?
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1731. Original parade route on the way to
the Trade Mart.
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1732. Its too far, right?
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1733. Too far.
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1734. Impossible shot,
so they change the parade route,
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1735. bring him down here,
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1736. moving at a normal
25 miles per hour.
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1737. They knew the motorcade would have to slow
down to about 10 miles per hour
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1738. - to make that turn there,
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1739. and that's where you got him.
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1740. Who do you think changed
the parade route, Lou?
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1741. Beats me.
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1742. Secret Service, city officials,
Dallas police.
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1743. You know who the mayor was
at the time?
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1744. Earle Cabell.
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1745. Guess who his brother is.
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1746. Who?
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1747. - General Charles Cabell.
- Who?
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1748. Deputy Director of the CIA.
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1749. Kennedy fired him in '61 because of the
Bay of Pigs fiasco.
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1750. Moved back to the Pentagon,
called Kennedy a traitor.
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1751. When he came to New Orleans...
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1752. to address the Foreign Policy Association,
you know who introduced him?
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1753. Who?
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1754. Our friend, Clay Shaw.
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1755. And the Warren Commission call him?
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1756. His boss was the one on the Warren
Commission
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1757. who handled all the leads to the
intelligence community.
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1758. Allen Dulles?
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1759. Head of the CIA since '53.
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1760. Kennedy fired them both.
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1761. Cabell was his deputy for nine years.
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1762. Talk about the fox investigating the
chicken coop.
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1763. Now we'll have to subpoena
them both.
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1764. Clay Bertrand?
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1765. Sure, I know him.
Comes around the Quarter.
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1766. Who is he, Joe?
I've been to all the bars,
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1767. nobody wants to talk.
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1768. Why should they talk to you?
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1769. I told your uncle I never met a lawman
who wasn't a punk.
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1770. He's a big-shot businessman.
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1771. I seen him on the TV news a lot,
with all the other big shots.
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1772. The guy's a fag,
you know.
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1773. Goes by another name.
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1774. What's the other name?
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1775. Shaw. Clay Shaw.
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1776. Clay Bertrand is Clay Shaw?
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1777. The guy who used to run
the International Trade Mart?
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1778. Yeah, what's the big mystery?
Everybody down here knows the guy.
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1779. Then, why does he call himself
Bertrand?
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1780. Who gives a shit what
he calls himself.
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1781. Hey, what about that
grand jury thing?
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1782. You think you're gonna give us
a little help on that?
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1783. I hope so. We could use it.
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1784. Your hunch was right, boss.
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1785. But it's even spookier than
we thought.
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1786. Starting in September '63 on,
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1787. - two months before the assassination,
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1788. there are sightings of Oswald
all over Dallas,
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1789. buying ammunition...
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1790. Jasper, cut it out!
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1791. ...getting a telescopic sight fixed,
going to rifle ranges.
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1792. Early November,
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1793. at a Dallas downtown
Lincoln-Mercury dealership,
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1794. where he tells the salesman,
Albert Bogard,
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1795. Let's take it out for a test drive.
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1796. ...despite the fact he has no license,
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1797. and, from what Marina says,
doesn't know how to drive,
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1798. he hits the curves like
A. J. Foyt at the Indy 500.
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1799. Bogard later told his boss he drove
like a madman.
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1800. Hey, 300 bucks down now, Mr. Oswald,
you can drive outta here.
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1801. What?
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1802. For this heap?
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1803. No honest, working man can afford to buy
a car in this goddamn country anymore.
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1804. Maybe I'll have to go to Russia
and buy a car.
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1805. Really dumb dialogue, like he's
trying to draw attention to himself.
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1806. - Yeah, maybe you should.
- A real moron. He walks out.
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1807. Salesman remembers him as
about 5'7"
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1808. but we know from Oswald's draft card
that he was actually 5°11".
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1809. Other witnesses see him on several
separate days
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1810. - at different firing ranges.
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1811. - And one time, November 9th,
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1812. - he decides he needs to practice
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1813. - on the target of the guy next to him.
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1814. I didn't pay two bits for a target just
to have someone else shoot at it.
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1815. - Hey, I'm sorry, buddy.
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1816. I thought I was shooting at that
son-of-a-bitch Kennedy.
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1817. About as subtle as a cockroach crawling
across a white rug.
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1818. Then he shows up at
Silvia Odio's,
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1819. a Cuban lady in Dallas working in the
anti-Castro underground.
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1820. The two Cubans introduce him as
Leon Oswald.
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1821. - Because he is a friend of ours!
- Something about the men bothers her.
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1822. About 48 hours later,
one of the Cubans calls her back.
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1823. What did you think of Leon Oswald
last night?
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1824. I don't care,
I don't know Oswald.
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1825. You know what he said to us?
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1826. He said, "You Cubans don't have any guts,
‘cause Kennedy should have been killed
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1827. after the Bay of Pigs,
and some Cubans should have done it."
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1828. It's like he's giving her information
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1829. - she doesn't even ask for.
- Why did you tell me this?
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1830. She's scared,
doesn't see them again...
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1831. till she sees Oswald's picture
in the paper.
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1832. But the Warren Commission says that
Silvia has bad eyesight
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1833. because they have Oswald in Mexico
at this time,
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1834. trying to get back into Cuba.
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1835. The CIA has a camera outside the
Cuban Embassy
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1836. and they say that this...
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1837. is Oswald in Mexico. Now...
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1838. If this is Oswald,
it must be our third Oswald.
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1839. It's interesting, the extent to
which the Warren Commission went
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1840. to make him a communist.
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1841. I'm beginning to think the whole point
of the Mexican episode
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1842. was to lay the blame at Fidel
Castro's door.
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1843. I mean, if Oswald,
or someone
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1844. purporting to be Oswald,
had gotten into Cuba,
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1845. come back,
then killed the president,
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1846. the American public once again would've
supported a Cuban invasion.
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1847. I even have doubts about this photo,
boss.
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1848. - This pretty much convicted Oswald
Copy !req
1849. in the public's mind, but Oswald told
Captain Fritz during his interrogation
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1850. - that the photo was fake.
- This is not me.
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1851. That came from Janet
Williams' garage.
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1852. Well, I never saw this picture!
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1853. That is my face, but my face has been
super-imposed.
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1854. The rest of the picture is
not me at all,
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1855. and I have done a lot of
photographic work,
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1856. and that picture was made
by someone else!
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1857. I took this picture to two experts.
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1858. Look at the way the shadows
on the nose...
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1859. fall in a straight line like
it's high noon,
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1860. but the shadow down here on the
ground reads more like
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1861. late afternoon or early morning.
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1862. It's not the same time.
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1863. Also, look at the crop marks
across the chin.
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1864. It seems like this head is pasted onto
somebody else's body,
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1865. implicating him with the rifle
and the gun.
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1866. So who the hell are you,
Alex Hidell or Lee Oswald?
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1867. Well, you're the policeman,
you work it out.
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1868. Now it gets positively spooky.
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1869. In January, 1961 in New Orleans at the
Bolton-Ford dealership,
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1870. when the Oswald we know is
in Russia,
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1871. there's a man using the name
"Oswald" to buy trucks
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1872. for the Friends of Democratic Cuba.
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1873. Salesman never sees him again,
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1874. but guess who's on the articles of
incorporation
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1875. of the Friends for Democratic Cuba?
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1876. Who?
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1877. - Guy Banister.
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1878. - Banister has someone
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1879. using the name "Oswald"
to buy the trucks.
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1880. Hoover, at the FBI, writes a memo
dated June of 1960,
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1881. that someone could be using Oswald's
passport and identity.
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1882. Goddamn, they put Oswald together
from day one!
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1883. Like some dummy corporation
in the Bahamas,
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1884. you just move him around
a board.
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1885. Anybody want to quit?
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1886. All right, dumb question.
Put your hands down.
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1887. Hey, Bill.
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1888. I found Clay Bertrand.
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1889. Who?
Copy !req
1890. Grab your socks and hose
and pull.
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1891. Clay Bertrand is Clay Shaw.
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1892. - Damn.
- Shaw?
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1893. Director of the Trade Mart?
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1894. - Former director of the Trade Mart.
- Oh, my God.
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1895. That's incredible.
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1896. Can you get some sworn statements?
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1897. Now, that's going to be tough.
Nobody is talking.
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1898. I think we should have him in
for a little chat.
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1899. Oh, honey, I hate for him to get
dragged into this.
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1900. He's done so much for the city, with
all that restoration in the Quarter.
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1901. Remember, we saw him at the Bali
Ha'i fundraiser?
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1902. He seems like such a nice man.
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1903. Honey,
it'll be off the record.
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1904. I'll bring him in on a Sunday.
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1905. Quiet, little chat
between gentlemen.
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1906. In heavy fighting in Vietnam today,
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1907. seven more American soldiers died,
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1908. - and 23 were wounded.
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1909. The body count for this week now stands
at 67 Americans
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1910. and 626 enemy soldiers killed
in action.
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1911. Liz?
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1912. President Johnson, meanwhile,
said he regretted
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1913. there is no end in sight to the war
in Vietnam.
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1914. Five-hundred thousand American troops
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1915. - Out here, honey!
- are now fighting...
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1916. We face more cost...
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1917. more loss... and more agony.
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1918. Come on outside and help the kids
hunt for Easter eggs!
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1919. Oh, honey, that's the kids' job,
all right?
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1920. You know I don't like these
tribal rituals, anyway.
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1921. Besides, I told you I'm talking
to Clay Shaw this morning.
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1922. Honey, we're going to Antoine's
with the kids, like we do every year.
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1923. - No, I told you I was talking to Shaw.
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1924. Well, why in the world did you do it
in the middle of Easter Sunday?
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1925. ‘Cause when I scheduled it,
I didn't realize it was a holiday.
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1926. For Pete's sakes, honey,
look at the calendar!
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1927. Liz, honey, you were there,
why didn't you say something?
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1928. You said a Sunday,
not Easter Sunday.
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1929. Clay Shaw is important.
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1930. And we're not.
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1931. I didn't say that, Liz.
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1932. I didn't say that.
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1933. You're missing most of your life,
and you don't even know it, honey.
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1934. - The kids are missing out, too.
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1935. - You're not the only one making
- Look, I'll rush,
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1936. - sacrifices around here.
- And I'll be there by 2:00, I promise.
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1937. Okay? Now--
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1938. You just go ahead without me.
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1939. Mr. Garrison, what can I do for you
on Easter Sunday?
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1940. I'm sorry, Mr. Shaw,
to interrupt this holiday,
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1941. but I feel this is a conversation
we might better have
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1942. out of the everyday bustle
in this office.
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1943. I'm not sure I understand.
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1944. Well, in an investigation
we're conducting,
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1945. your name has come up
a number of times.
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1946. I wouldn't imagine where.
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1947. We recently talked to a number
of men who claim to know you.
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1948. Are you acquainted with
a David Logan?
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1949. Uh, no. Never heard of him.
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1950. A Perry Russo?
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1951. No.
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1952. A Willie O'Keefe?
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1953. No, I don't believe I know
anyone by that name.
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1954. Mr. O'Keefe told us he met you at
the Masquerade Bar, down in the Quarter.
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1955. - And several evenings later,
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1956. you had him over for dinner
at your apartment on Dauphine Street.
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1957. Do you recall that?
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1958. Of course not.
I don't know this man.
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1959. Be still my heart.
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1960. Obviously then, I wouldn't have him
over for dinner.
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1961. - Hope you like squab.
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1962. - Champagne?
- Yeah.
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1963. Perhaps a few more details about the
evening will refresh your memory.
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1964. Mr. O'Keefe told us dinner was served
by a uniformed waiter.
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1965. A colored man.
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1966. He particularly remembered that you sat
at one end and he at the other,
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1967. which he found rather unusual because
the table was so long.
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1968. How was your mousse?
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1969. Does that bring back memories
of Willie O'Keefe?
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1970. Not at all.
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1971. But on the other hand, I do have a lovely
Chippendale dining table
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1972. and I often have a friend over sitting at
one end, while I sit at the other.
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1973. It's precisely the point of a long
dining table.
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1974. The splendor of the meal adds to
the enjoyment of it.
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1975. I would imagine that a
uniformed waiter helps.
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1976. It adds a taste of elegance,
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1977. for which I must confess a weakness,
now and then.
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1978. I call him Smedley.
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1979. Real name is Frankie Jenkins,
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1980. but I could hardly imagine anything
more uncouth during dinner...
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1981. than my turning toward the kitchen
and hollering "Frankie!"
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1982. Where is all this leading to,
Mr. Garrison?
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1983. After dinner,
you paid him to have sex.
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1984. That is absolute nonsense.
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1985. The Quarter is filled with vivid
imaginations, my dear Mr. Garrison.
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1986. Grimy young hoodlums,
who will say and do
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1987. - anything, as you well know.
- In the course of that night,
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1988. Mr. O'Keefe told us that a man named
David Ferrie stopped by the house
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1989. along with another young man.
Copy !req
1990. - Who?
- David Ferrie.
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1991. No, I don't believe I know
anyone by that name.
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1992. Course never having met Mr. O'Keefe
I could hardly have met Mr. Ferrie.
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1993. - Here you go. Here you go.
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1994. - You're mine, Mary. You're mine.
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1995. The four of you partied early into
the morning hours.
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1996. Look at this picture.
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1997. I'm sure I've never met anyone of such
a bizarre appearance.
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1998. - Come here, bitch!
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1999. - Come here!
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2000. - The only way you get this
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2001. - is do exactly what I say.
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2002. - I'm the man, don't ever forget it!
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2003. - You want it? You want it?
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2004. Does the name Clay Bertrand
mean anything to you?
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2005. - Clay Bertrand... Clay Bertrand.
- Clay Bertrand.
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2006. I believe there was a man with a
name similar to that,
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2007. worked over at the Chamber of Commerce.
Is that the man you had in mind?
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2008. No, it was not.
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2009. Mr. Shaw,
can you identify this man?
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2010. Naturally.
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2011. Are you claiming, Mr. Garrison,
that Mr. Oswald also had dinner with me?
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2012. Mr. Shaw, have you ever met
Lee Harvey Oswald?
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2013. You really have me consorting with
a sordid cast of characters.
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2014. - Just answer the question.
- Of course not.
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2015. Such a pity, that assassination.
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2016. In fact,
I admired President Kennedy.
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2017. A man of true panache,
wife of impeccable taste.
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2018. - I'm hungry!
- Well, why don't we just go ahead
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2019. and order without your daddy,
I don't think he'll mind.
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2020. I want a Shirley Temple!
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2021. - Oh, kids, put your water guns away.
- Me, too!
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2022. - When's Daddy coming, Mama?
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2023. Soon, he's coming soon.
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2024. He's really sorry he couldn't start
with us, but he promised he'd be here.
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2025. - Daddy never keeps his promises.
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2026. - I'm bored!
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2027. Mr. Shaw, this is an Italian
newspaper article saying you were
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2028. a member of the Board of Centro
Mondo Commerciale in Italy,
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2029. that this company was a creature of the
CIA for the transfer of funds in Italy
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2030. for illegal political-espionage
activity.
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2031. It says that this company was expelled
from Italy for those activities.
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2032. I'm well aware of that asinine article.
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2033. I'm thinking very seriously of suing
that rag of a newspaper.
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2034. It also says that this company is
linked to the Schlumberger Tool Company,
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2035. here in Houma, Louisiana,
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2036. which helped provide arms
to David Ferrie and his Cubans.
Copy !req
2037. Mr. Garrison, you're reaching.
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2038. Am I?
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2039. I'm an international businessman.
The Trade Mart, which I founded,
Copy !req
2040. is America's commercial pipeline
to Latin America.
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2041. I trade everywhere.
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2042. I am accused...
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2043. as are all businessmen,
of all things.
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2044. I somehow go about my business,
make money, help society the best I can,
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2045. and try to promote free trade
in this world.
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2046. Mr. Shaw...
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2047. have you ever been a contract agent for
the Central Intelligence Agency?
Copy !req
2048. And if I were...
Copy !req
2049. Mr. Garrison, do you believe...
Copy !req
2050. I would be here today...
Copy !req
2051. talking to somebody like you?
Copy !req
2052. No.
Copy !req
2053. People like you don't have to,
I guess.
Copy !req
2054. May I go?
Copy !req
2055. People like you, they just walk
between the raindrops.
Copy !req
2056. May I go?
Copy !req
2057. Yes.
Copy !req
2058. Regardless of what you may think of me,
Mr. Garrison,
Copy !req
2059. I am a patriot first and foremost.
Copy !req
2060. I've spent half my life in the
United States military
Copy !req
2061. serving and defending this great
country, Mr. Shaw,
Copy !req
2062. - and you're the first person I ever met
Copy !req
2063. who considered it an act of patriotism
to murder his own president.
Copy !req
2064. Now, just a minute, sir.
You are way out of line.
Copy !req
2065. I'm sorry, Mr. Shaw, it's getting late.
That's all the questions we have.
Copy !req
2066. Thank you for your honesty
and for coming in today.
Copy !req
2067. I enjoyed meeting with you
gentlemen.
Copy !req
2068. And you, Miss Cox.
It was most pleasant.
Copy !req
2069. I wish to extend to each of you,
Copy !req
2070. and to each of your families,
my best wishes for a happy Easter.
Copy !req
2071. "One may smile and smile
and be a villain."
Copy !req
2072. Goddammit,
we got one of ‘em.
Copy !req
2073. Did you see that?
Copy !req
2074. - Hi, honey.
- Hi.
Copy !req
2075. - Tough day.
- Daddy, where you been?
Copy !req
2076. My sympathies.
Copy !req
2077. Liz, I'm really sorry, but the meeting
took much longer than expected.
Copy !req
2078. Just a second, Jasper.
Copy !req
2079. We waited for hours, Jim!
Copy !req
2080. Honey, you could've telephoned.
Copy !req
2081. I know, I don't know what to say,
except I'm sorry, all right?
Copy !req
2082. I just don't have rabbits
on my mind.
Copy !req
2083. You know what I think?
Copy !req
2084. Daddy?
Copy !req
2085. I think you care more about John
Kennedy than your own family!
Copy !req
2086. All day, the kids are asking,
"Where's Daddy?"
Copy !req
2087. What am I supposed to
tell your kids, Jim!
Copy !req
2088. - Papa?
- I don't know what to tell them.
Copy !req
2089. How about the truth?
Copy !req
2090. I'm doing my job to make sure they can
grow up in a country,
Copy !req
2091. - Papa?
- where justice won't be an arcane,
Copy !req
2092. vanished idea they read about
in history books.
Copy !req
2093. - Oh, that sounds real dandy.
- Like the dinosaurs,
Copy !req
2094. - or the lost continent of Atlantis.
- But it doesn't replace a husband
Copy !req
2095. or a father on Easter Sunday.
Copy !req
2096. Well, it's gonna get worse,
Liz.
Copy !req
2097. Do you know who killed
President Kennedy?
Copy !req
2098. Was there a conspiracy here
in New Orleans?
Copy !req
2099. - Excuse me, gentlemen.
- I don't know what you're talking about.
Copy !req
2100. - Get out of here!
Copy !req
2101. - Watch out! Watch out!
Copy !req
2102. Congratulations, boss,
you're page one.
Copy !req
2103. And it ain't pretty.
Copy !req
2104. It says we've spend more than
8,000 dollars
Copy !req
2105. on unexplained travel
and investigative
Copy !req
2106. expenses in a period
since November 1966.
Copy !req
2107. Goddamn!
Copy !req
2108. They went to the public records.
Copy !req
2109. They got the vouchers that we requested
for withdrawals.
Copy !req
2110. Shaw must've gotten them on our tail.
Copy !req
2111. It could've been Ferrie, Martin,
Andrews, any of ‘em.
Copy !req
2112. Damnit!
Copy !req
2113. We didn't talk to Ruby ‘cause of them and
they're on our asses for a measly 8,000!
Copy !req
2114. They hunted down the news,
it's their business.
Copy !req
2115. Well, you'd at least think they'd attempt
to understand what we're trying to do!
Copy !req
2116. Well, getting angry doesn't accomplish
a damn thing!
Copy !req
2117. Son of a bitch.
Copy !req
2118. Well, this changes everything,
now, doesn't it?
Copy !req
2119. What do you mean?
Copy !req
2120. Well...
Copy !req
2121. Either we pull out now, or we go through
some heavy flack together.
Copy !req
2122. Bear in mind, each of you, this may affect
the rest of your careers, your lives.
Copy !req
2123. If any one of you want to
pull out now,
Copy !req
2124. I assure you I will bear no ill feelings
towards that person
Copy !req
2125. and will reassign you to
regular duties.
Copy !req
2126. There it is, then.
Copy !req
2127. Thank you.
Copy !req
2128. That means a great deal to me.
Copy !req
2129. I'm giving this office 6,000 dollars from
my National Guard savings account,
Copy !req
2130. SO we cah continue.
Copy !req
2131. I'll make speeches where I can
and pick up additional money.
Copy !req
2132. Mr. Garrison,
what shall I tell them?
Copy !req
2133. - They're piling up outside the door.
Copy !req
2134. They want a statement, the phones are
going crazier than bugs on a cake.
Copy !req
2135. Neither confirm, deny,
nor discuss, Sharon.
Copy !req
2136. Goodbye, ladies, gentlemen.
Copy !req
2137. I'm going home to where I can get
a decent day's work done.
Copy !req
2138. Mr. Garrison's own silence on the subject
Copy !req
2139. has raised some interesting questions.
Copy !req
2140. With taxpayer money, has he uncovered
Copy !req
2141. - some valuable new evidence,
Copy !req
2142. - or is he merely saving the information
Copy !req
2143. which will gain, for him,
exposure at a national level?
Copy !req
2144. Yeah?
Copy !req
2145. Did your office plant
that garbage in the fuckin' paper?
Copy !req
2146. - Who is this?
- You know exactly who the fuck this is!
Copy !req
2147. - Dave?
- Yeah, you got it.
Copy !req
2148. Listen...
Copy !req
2149. Since you're the only straight shooter
in that fuckin' office,
Copy !req
2150. I'd like a fuckin' answer
from you. Did you plant it?
Copy !req
2151. Dave, you think
we're out of our minds?
Copy !req
2152. The whole building's been a zoo
since that broke.
Copy !req
2153. We can't get a thing done.
Reporters crawling everywhere.
Copy !req
2154. You think we want that?
Copy !req
2155. Somebody planted that fuckin' story!
Copy !req
2156. Somebody tipped off the press I'm one
of fuckin' Garrison's suspects.
Copy !req
2157. I can't-- I can't go home!
Copy !req
2158. The fuckin' maggots
are everywhere!
Copy !req
2159. Do you know what you've done
to me?
Copy !req
2160. Calm down, Dave, what?
Copy !req
2161. From here on,
I am a fuckin' dead man.
Copy !req
2162. - A dead man!
- What are you talking about?
Copy !req
2163. Dave, you even weren't mentioned in the
story. Don't jump to conclusions.
Copy !req
2164. Look, meet me in the lobby of
the Fontainebleau in 20 minutes.
Copy !req
2165. I guarantee you the boss will
protect you.
Copy !req
2166. He likes you,
he likes your mind.
Copy !req
2167. I guess, you know, I just don't know who
to trust anymore, you know?
Copy !req
2168. I suppose I could use a pot of hot coffee
and a few packs of Luckies.
Copy !req
2169. So you got anything new in the
investigation?
Copy !req
2170. Who you scared of,
Dave?
Copy !req
2171. Me? Everybody.
Copy !req
2172. - Agency, mob, Cubans.
Copy !req
2173. That's it, follow the Cubans.
Check 'em out.
Copy !req
2174. Here, Miami, Dallas.
Copy !req
2175. Check out a guy named
Eladio del Valle.
Copy !req
2176. He used to be my paymaster when I
flew missions into Cuba.
Copy !req
2177. He's somewhere in Miami.
You're on the right track.
Copy !req
2178. Hey, hey!
Don't be writing this down.
Copy !req
2179. I ain't cooperating here with no one.
What's going on here?
Copy !req
2180. There's a death warrant for me!
Don't you get it?
Copy !req
2181. Damn!
Copy !req
2182. Wait a minute, you ain't bugged,
are you?
Copy !req
2183. Son of a bitch, Lou.
Are you?
Copy !req
2184. Dave.
Copy !req
2185. I always play square.
No bugs.
Copy !req
2186. I'd love you to go on the record, but I'm
in no hurry.
Copy !req
2187. - Whenever you're ready.
Copy !req
2188. I haven't slept since
that shit article come out.
Copy !req
2189. Why'd you guys have to go and get me
involved with this?
Copy !req
2190. Did we get you involved or did
Clay Shaw, Dave?
Copy !req
2191. Cocksuckin' faggot!
Copy !req
2192. - He got me by the balls.
- What do you mean?
Copy !req
2193. You know, photographs,
compromising stuff.
Copy !req
2194. And he'll use ‘em, too.
The Agency plays for keeps.
Copy !req
2195. I knew Oswald.
He was in my Civil Air Patrol unit.
Copy !req
2196. I taught him everything.
He was a "wannabe," you know?
Copy !req
2197. Nobody really liked him ‘cause they
thought he was a snitch.
Copy !req
2198. I treated him good.
Copy !req
2199. He'd talk about his kid, you know, really
wanted her to grow up with a chance, but--
Copy !req
2200. - What's this?
Copy !req
2201. What's going on here?
Copy !req
2202. Ain't nobody coming in here.
Copy !req
2203. - Just room service.
Copy !req
2204. Black, black-- just give it to me.
Copy !req
2205. Black.
Copy !req
2206. - Shit.
Copy !req
2207. My neck is killing me.
Copy !req
2208. I got cancer,
I've had it for years.
Copy !req
2209. I been working with mice,
you know, trying to find a cure.
Copy !req
2210. Did you ever work for the CIA?
Copy !req
2211. You make it sound like some remote fuckin'
experience in ancient history.
Copy !req
2212. - Man, you don't leave the Agency.
Copy !req
2213. Once you're in,
they got you for life.
Copy !req
2214. Shaw?
Copy !req
2215. Shaw?
Shaw's an "untouchable."
Copy !req
2216. Highest clearance.
Copy !req
2217. Shaw, Oswald, the Cubans--
all Agency.
Copy !req
2218. What about Ruby?
Copy !req
2219. Jack?
Jack was a pimp.
Copy !req
2220. He was a bagman for
the Dallas mob.
Copy !req
2221. He used to run guns to Castro
when he was still on our side.
Copy !req
2222. We almost had Castro with us,
then we tried to whack him.
Copy !req
2223. Everybody's flipping sides
all the time.
Copy !req
2224. It's fun and games, man,
fun and games.
Copy !req
2225. What about the mob, Dave?
How do they figure in this?
Copy !req
2226. They're Agency, too, man.
Copy !req
2227. CIA and the mafia working together,
Copy !req
2228. trying to whack out the Beard.
Copy !req
2229. Mutual interests.
They been doing it for years!
Copy !req
2230. There's more to this than
you could dream!
Copy !req
2231. Check out something called
"Mongoose."
Copy !req
2232. "Operation Mongoose."
Copy !req
2233. Government, Pentagon stuff.
Copy !req
2234. They're in charge.
Copy !req
2235. But who the fuck pulls whose chain?
Who the fuck knows.
Copy !req
2236. "Oh, what a deadly web we weave
when we practice to deceive.”
Copy !req
2237. Then who killed the president?
Copy !req
2238. Oh, man,
why don't you fuckin' stop it!
Copy !req
2239. Shit!
Copy !req
2240. Who did--
Copy !req
2241. This is too fuckin' big for you,
you know that?
Copy !req
2242. This is-- who did the president?
Who killed Kennedy?
Copy !req
2243. Fuck, man!
Copy !req
2244. It's a mystery!
Copy !req
2245. It's a mystery wrapped in a riddle
inside an enigma!
Copy !req
2246. The fuckin' shooters don't even know!
Don't you get it?
Copy !req
2247. Fuck, man!
Copy !req
2248. I can't keep talking like this.
Copy !req
2249. They're gonna fuckin' kill me!
Copy !req
2250. I'm gonna fuckin' die!
Copy !req
2251. Son of a bitch!
Copy !req
2252. - It's all right, David.
Copy !req
2253. I don't know what happened.
Copy !req
2254. Fuck!
Copy !req
2255. All I wanted in the world...
Copy !req
2256. was to be a Catholic priest,
Copy !req
2257. live in a monastery,
Copy !req
2258. pray, serve God.
Copy !req
2259. I had one fuckin'...
Copy !req
2260. one terrible fuckin' weakness!
Copy !req
2261. And they defrocked me!
Copy !req
2262. Then I started to lose everything.
Copy !req
2263. It's gonna be okay, Dave.
Copy !req
2264. You just talk to us on the record and
we'll protect you, I guarantee it.
Copy !req
2265. They'd get to you, too.
Copy !req
2266. They'll destroy you.
Copy !req
2267. They're untouchable, man.
Copy !req
2268. I'm so fuckin' exhausted,
I can't see straight.
Copy !req
2269. Out of here!
Copy !req
2270. Oh, Lord.
Copy !req
2271. A little early for Mardi Gras,
isn't it?
Copy !req
2272. Paris Match,
largest magazine in France.
Copy !req
2273. My name is Bulgarinov, I am with
Literaturnaya Gazeta of Moscow.
Copy !req
2274. Victoria Taylor,
British Private Eye.
Copy !req
2275. Do you know who shot the president?
Mr. Garrison is too busy...
Copy !req
2276. Boss, I'm telling you,
Copy !req
2277. something or somebody is putting
tremendous heat on David Ferrie.
Copy !req
2278. If we sit on our behinds any longer,
I don't think the guy's gonna hold on.
Copy !req
2279. Look at this bullshit!
Copy !req
2280. He keeps changing what he says.
Copy !req
2281. We can't possibly call him
to a grand jury.
Copy !req
2282. Susie, watch the language,
would you please?
Copy !req
2283. My instinct is that Ferrie is gonna
keep on deteriorating,
Copy !req
2284. and we'll end up getting more out of him
when he finally cracks.
Copy !req
2285. Oh, bullshit!
Now, if you start to--
Copy !req
2286. If we call him in now,
he might freeze up
Copy !req
2287. and we'll lose the best shot
we ever had.
Copy !req
2288. You guys don't get it, do you?
He can't go down any further.
Copy !req
2289. We got to protect him full time.
Copy !req
2290. We don't have enough funds
to protect anybody full time.
Copy !req
2291. I know what you're going through
with Ferrie, Lou, all right?
Copy !req
2292. We'll talk tomorrow.
Copy !req
2293. I got a plane to catch.
Copy !req
2294. - Going to Washington.
Copy !req
2295. Washington?
Copy !req
2296. Yeah, an interesting lead says he's
closely connected to these events,
Copy !req
2297. but he won't come down here.
Copy !req
2298. I'm onto Ferrie's Cuban paymaster,
Eladio del Valle, in Miami.
Copy !req
2299. I tell ya, I need more men.
I got to get him in, boss.
Copy !req
2300. I can't even pull the teams
to watch Ferrie.
Copy !req
2301. Listen,
I gave this man my word.
Copy !req
2302. This is our case!
Copy !req
2303. - Hold it! Hold it!
- For God's sake, Numa--
Copy !req
2304. I got something to show you.
Copy !req
2305. I think you'll find it
very interesting.
Copy !req
2306. Numa, what is that thing?
Copy !req
2307. Williams found this in your office.
Copy !req
2308. We think the conference room is also
bugged, maybe the phones.
Copy !req
2309. We're gonna have to debug
the whole place.
Copy !req
2310. Bugging the DA's office!
This is outrageous!
Copy !req
2311. Mr. lvon, it's for you.
It's urgent.
Copy !req
2312. You can believe what you want to,
but we're gonna have to be more careful.
Copy !req
2313. All these new volunteers, I mean,
any one of them could be--
Copy !req
2314. Okay, Numa, you handle it, all right?
I don't have...
Copy !req
2315. - I don't have time for this nonsense.
Copy !req
2316. Well, we--
Copy !req
2317. We've obviously got the bastards
worried now.
Copy !req
2318. I'm coming to Washington.
Copy !req
2319. Dave Ferrie's dead.
Copy !req
2320. Found his body at his apartment
a couple hours ago.
Copy !req
2321. What's it look like, Nick?
Copy !req
2322. I don't see any violence, Jim.
Heart attack, maybe an aneurysm.
Copy !req
2323. Looks like natural causes.
Copy !req
2324. This is addressed to no one,
and no signature.
Copy !req
2325. "To leave this life is, for me,
a sweet prospect.
Copy !req
2326. I find nothing in it that is desirable,
Copy !req
2327. and on the other hand,
everything that is loathsome."
Copy !req
2328. - Goes on and on.
Copy !req
2329. "Daily we are propagandized more and
more by the rising crime wave."
Copy !req
2330. Pretty flowery for Dave Ferrie.
Copy !req
2331. Proloid?
Copy !req
2332. Yeah, I took it once for a low
thyroid condition.
Copy !req
2333. It raises the metabolism,
Lou.
Copy !req
2334. Did David Ferrie strike you as the kind
of person with a low metabolism?
Copy !req
2335. Hardly, I'd say the opposite.
Hypertension.
Copy !req
2336. You know, Ferrie was the only one to
express any kind of remorse
Copy !req
2337. about the whole thing.
Copy !req
2338. I think it got him killed.
Copy !req
2339. Lou? Boss?
Copy !req
2340. More bad news from Miami.
Copy !req
2341. They found Ferrie's Cuban friend,
Eladio del Valle, today.
Copy !req
2342. Hacked to death
with a machete in his car.
Copy !req
2343. He was tortured, shot in the heart
at point-blank range,
Copy !req
2344. and his skull was split open
with an axe.
Copy !req
2345. Now, ain't that the devil's piss.
Copy !req
2346. Found another note, same thing,
no name, no signature.
Copy !req
2347. "When you receive this, I will be quite
dead, so no answer will be possible.
Copy !req
2348. - I offered you love, and all I got..."
- Jesus.
Copy !req
2349. They must've been hard pressed
to come up with that one.
Copy !req
2350. Nick,
can I have a word with you?
Copy !req
2351. What would happen if a man suffering
from hypertension
Copy !req
2352. were to take an entire bottle
of Proloid?
Copy !req
2353. He'd die pretty quick,
Copy !req
2354. either a heart storm or a ruptured
blood vessel in the brain.
Copy !req
2355. Uh-huh.
Copy !req
2356. Can you ascertain if there's Proloid
in his system?
Copy !req
2357. Not in a routine autopsy.
Copy !req
2358. But if we looked at the spinal fluid,
there might be a high level of iodine,
Copy !req
2359. but it's difficult to know.
Copy !req
2360. What you thinking, Jim?
Copy !req
2361. I don't know,
it doesn't make sense, Nick.
Copy !req
2362. I mean, the man's afraid of dying,
Copy !req
2363. then he kills himself in a way
that leaves no trace?
Copy !req
2364. But he leaves two unsigned
suicide notes?
Copy !req
2365. If it's a suicide,
I seen weirder, Jim.
Copy !req
2366. The fact is he's gone, chief,
and so is our case.
Copy !req
2367. Unless we go for Shaw now.
Copy !req
2368. With whose testimony?
Willie O'Keefe, a male prostitute?
Copy !req
2369. Jack Martin, a drunk?
Vernon Bundy, a dope fiend?
Copy !req
2370. Shaw's got respect, Lou.
Copy !req
2371. Newspaper editors,
the American Bar Association--
Copy !req
2372. I agree with Bill.
Copy !req
2373. - We haven't got the goods yet!
- We wait...
Copy !req
2374. Shaw's gonna get whacked.
Now, how many corpses is it gonna take
Copy !req
2375. before you lawyers figure out
what's going on?
Copy !req
2376. You watch your mouth!
Ferrie did this to himself.
Copy !req
2377. Where you going, boss?
Copy !req
2378. I don't know, Bill.
I just don't know.
Copy !req
2379. - Hey, Bill!
- Hey, where you at, Frank?
Copy !req
2380. You're wasting your time here. Big Jim
gave strict orders, no FBI allowed.
Copy !req
2381. - It's you I want to talk to, Bill.
- No, no.
Copy !req
2382. Boss would fry me in hog fat
if he knew I talked to you.
Copy !req
2383. Your boss got a serious problem,
Bill.
Copy !req
2384. Real serious.
Copy !req
2385. We know what's been going on
over at your office.
Copy !req
2386. Yeah, I guess you do.
Copy !req
2387. You've got nothin', Bill.
I'm talking as a friend now.
Copy !req
2388. You're riding on the Titanic.
Copy !req
2389. Time to jump off before you get
destroyed along with Garrison.
Copy !req
2390. Frank, I don't want to hear this.
Copy !req
2391. We're talking about your career,
here, Bill, your life.
Copy !req
2392. You're a young guy.
Copy !req
2393. We know you're working
that Castro thing.
Copy !req
2394. - No, I'm not.
- Yes, you are.
Copy !req
2395. Look we know Oswald didn't pull
that trigger.
Copy !req
2396. Castro did.
Copy !req
2397. But if that comes out,
there's gonna be a war, boy.
Copy !req
2398. Millions of people are gonna die.
Copy !req
2399. And that's a hell of a lot more important
than Jim Garrison.
Copy !req
2400. Goddammit, look at me
when I talk to you!
Copy !req
2401. - You're goddamn too self-opinionated--
- I can't, I can't!
Copy !req
2402. Shut up! Shut up!
Copy !req
2403. If you got a brain in that thick skull
of yours, you'll listen to me.
Copy !req
2404. You listen real hard.
Copy !req
2405. Now, get in the car.
Copy !req
2406. Jim Garrison?
Copy !req
2407. Yes.
Copy !req
2408. I'm glad you came.
Copy !req
2409. Sorry about the precautions.
Copy !req
2410. Well, I just hope it was
worth my while, Mr...
Copy !req
2411. I could give you a false name,
but I won't.
Copy !req
2412. Just call me "X."
Copy !req
2413. I've already been warned by the Agency,
Mr. Whoever, so
Copy !req
2414. if this is another type of threat,
I don't--
Copy !req
2415. I'm not with the Agency,
Mr. Garrison.
Copy !req
2416. And I assume if you've come this far,
what I have to say interests you.
Copy !req
2417. But I'm not going to name names, or
tell you who or what I represent.
Copy !req
2418. Except to say you're close.
Copy !req
2419. Closer than you think.
Copy !req
2420. Okay?
Copy !req
2421. Everything I'm gonna tell you
is classified top secret.
Copy !req
2422. I was a soldier, Mr. Garrison.
Copy !req
2423. Two wars.
Copy !req
2424. I was one of those secret guys in the
Pentagon
Copy !req
2425. that supplies the military hardware,
planes, bullets, rifles,
Copy !req
2426. for what we call
"Black Operations."
Copy !req
2427. "Black Ops."
Copy !req
2428. Assassinations, coup d'états, rigging
elections, propaganda, psych warfare,
Copy !req
2429. and so forth.
Copy !req
2430. World War Il, I was in Rumania,
Greece, Yugoslavia.
Copy !req
2431. I helped evacuate part of the Nazi
intelligence apparatus
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2432. just before the end of the war.
Copy !req
2433. We used those guys in the fight against
the communists.
Copy !req
2434. In Italy '48, stole the elections.
France '49, broke the strikes.
Copy !req
2435. Overthrew Quirino in the Philippines,
Arbenz in Guatemala, Mossadegh in Iran.
Copy !req
2436. We were in Vietnam in '54,
Indonesia '58, Tibet '59.
Copy !req
2437. Got the Dalai Lama out.
Copy !req
2438. We were good.
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2439. Very good.
Copy !req
2440. Then we get into the Cuban thing.
Not so good.
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2441. Set up all the bases for the invasion
supposed to take place in October '62.
Copy !req
2442. Mm-hmm.
Copy !req
2443. Khrushchev sent the missiles to resist
the invasion, Kennedy didn't invade...
Copy !req
2444. and we were standing out there
with our dicks in the wind.
Copy !req
2445. A lot of pissed-off people,
Mr. Garrison.
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2446. You understand?
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2447. I'll come to that later.
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2448. So... 1963.
Copy !req
2449. I spent much of September '63
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2450. working on the Kennedy plan
for getting all US personnel
Copy !req
2451. out of Vietnam
by the end of 1965.
Copy !req
2452. This plan was one of the strongest,
most important papers issued
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2453. from the Kennedy White House.
Copy !req
2454. His National Security Action Memo 263
Copy !req
2455. ordered home the first 1,000 troops
for Christmas.
Copy !req
2456. But then in November,
Copy !req
2457. One week after the murder of
Vietnamese President Diem in Saigon,
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2458. and two weeks before the
assassination of our president,
Copy !req
2459. a strange thing happened to me.
Copy !req
2460. Colonel.
Copy !req
2461. Excuse me, I got a note saying you
wanted to see me, General?
Copy !req
2462. I do indeed.
Copy !req
2463. You are going to the South Pole.
Copy !req
2464. lam?
Copy !req
2465. You are.
Copy !req
2466. Dr. Mooney's got the details,
I want you to check with him.
Copy !req
2467. Have yourself a nice vacation.
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2468. I was sent by my superior officer,
we'll call him "Y,"”
Copy !req
2469. I was sent by General Y
to the South Pole,
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2470. as the military escort for a group
of international VIPs.
Copy !req
2471. I was on my way back,
in New Zealand,
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2472. when the president was killed.
Copy !req
2473. Now...
Copy !req
2474. Oswald was charged at 7 p.m.
Dallas time with Tippit's murder.
Copy !req
2475. That's 2:00 in the afternoon of the
next day, New Zealand time.
Copy !req
2476. But already...
Copy !req
2477. their papers had the entire history
Copy !req
2478. of this unknown
24-year-old man, Oswald,
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2479. studio picture, detailed biographical
data, Russian information,
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2480. and were pretty sure of the fact that
he killed the president alone,
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2481. although it took them
four more hours
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2482. before they even charged him with
that crime in Dallas.
Copy !req
2483. It felt to me as if...
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2484. well, a cover story was
being put out,
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2485. like we would in a Black Op.
Copy !req
2486. Anyway, after I came back,
Copy !req
2487. I asked myself,
Copy !req
2488. why was I, the chief of special ops,
selected to travel to the South Pole
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2489. at that time to do a job that any number
of others could have done?
Copy !req
2490. And I wondered if
it could've been because...
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2491. One of my routine duties,
if I had been in Washington,
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2492. would've been to arrange
for additional security in Texas.
Copy !req
2493. So I decided to check it out...
Copy !req
2494. and sure enough,
I found out
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2495. that someone had told the 112th
Military Intelligence Group
Copy !req
2496. at 4th Army Headquarters at Fort Sam
Houston to "stand down" that day
Copy !req
2497. over the protests of the unit commander,
Colonel Reich.
Copy !req
2498. I believe it's a mistake.
Copy !req
2499. Now this is significant because it is
standard operating procedure,
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2500. especially in a known hostile city
like Dallas,
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2501. to supplement the Secret Service.
Copy !req
2502. I mean, even if we had not allowed
the bubbletop
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2503. to be removed from the limousine,
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2504. we would've placed at least 100 to 200
agents on the sidewalk, without question.
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2505. I mean, only a month before
in Dallas,
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2506. UN Ambassador Adlai Stevenson
was spit on and hit.
Copy !req
2507. - Right, yeah.
- There had already been several attempts
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2508. on de Gaulle's life in France.
Copy !req
2509. We would have arrived days
ahead of time,
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2510. studied the route,
checked all the buildings,
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2511. never would've allowed all those wide-open
empty windows overlooking Dealey.
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2512. Never!
Copy !req
2513. We'd've had our own snipers
covering the area.
Copy !req
2514. The minute a window went up,
they'd have been on the radio.
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2515. We'd've been watching the crowd,
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2516. packages, rolled-up newspapers,
coat over an arm,
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2517. never would have let a man
open an umbrella along the way.
Copy !req
2518. Never would've allowed that limousine
to slow down to 10 miles an hour,
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2519. much less take that unusual curve
at Houston and EIm.
Copy !req
2520. You would have felt an Army presence
in the streets that day,
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2521. but none of this happened.
Copy !req
2522. It was a violation of the most basic
protection codes we have.
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2523. And it is the best indication of
a massive plot in Dallas.
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2524. Now who could've best done this?
Copy !req
2525. Black Ops, Mr. Garrison.
People in my business.
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2526. People like my superior officer could've
called Colonel Reich and said
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2527. "Look, we have another unit coming from
so and so providing security.
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2528. You'll stand down."
I mean, that day, in fact,
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2529. there were some individual
Army Intelligence people in Dallas
Copy !req
2530. I'm still trying to figure out
who and why.
Copy !req
2531. But they weren't protecting
the client.
Copy !req
2532. And, of course, Oswald.
Copy !req
2533. Army Intel had a
"Harvey Lee Oswald" on file,
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2534. but all those files
have been destroyed.
Copy !req
2535. Many strange things
were happening,
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2536. and your Lee Harvey Oswald
had nothing to do with them.
Copy !req
2537. We had the entire cabinet
on a trip to the Far East.
Copy !req
2538. We had one third of a combat division
returning from Germany
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2539. in the air above the United States
at the time of the shooting.
Copy !req
2540. At 12:34 p.m., the entire telephone
system went out in Washington
Copy !req
2541. for a solid hour,
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2542. and on the plane back
to Washington,
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2543. word was radioed from the White House
Situations Room to Lyndon Johnson
Copy !req
2544. that one individual performed
the assassination.
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2545. Does that sound like a bunch
of coincidences to you, Mr. Garrison?
Copy !req
2546. No.
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2547. Not for one moment.
Copy !req
2548. The cabinet was out of the country
to get their perceptions out of the way.
Copy !req
2549. Troops were in the air for
possible riot control.
Copy !req
2550. The telephones didn't work to keep
the wrong stories from spreading
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2551. if anything went wrong
with the plan.
Copy !req
2552. Nothing was left to chance.
Copy !req
2553. He could not be allowed
to escape alive.
Copy !req
2554. Well, I never thought things were
the same after that.
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2555. Vietnam started for real.
Copy !req
2556. There was an air of...
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2557. I don't know,
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2558. make-believe in
the Pentagon and the CIA.
Copy !req
2559. Those of us who'd been in secret ops
since the beginning
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2560. knew the Warren Commission
was fiction,
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2561. but there was something...
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2562. something deeper.
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2563. Uglier.
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2564. I knew Allen Dulles very well,
I briefed him many a time in his house.
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2565. But for the life of me, I still
can't figure out why he was appointed
Copy !req
2566. to investigate Kennedy's death.
Copy !req
2567. The man who had fired him.
Copy !req
2568. Dulles, by the way,
was General Y's benefactor.
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2569. I get out in '64.
Copy !req
2570. Resigned my commission.
Copy !req
2571. I never realized Kennedy was so
dangerous to the establishment.
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2572. Is that why?
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2573. That's the real question,
isn't it?
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2574. "Why?"
Copy !req
2575. The "how" and the "who" is just
scenery for the public.
Copy !req
2576. Oswald, Ruby, Cuba, the mafia...
Copy !req
2577. keeps them guessing like some kind
of parlor game,
Copy !req
2578. prevents them from asking the most
important question: "Why?"
Copy !req
2579. Why was Kennedy killed?
Copy !req
2580. Who benefitted?
Copy !req
2581. Who has the power to cover it up?
Copy !req
2582. Who?
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2583. In 1961...
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2584. right after the Bay of Pigs--
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2585. Very few people
know about this, all right?
Copy !req
2586. I participated in drawing up National
Security Action Memos 55, 56, 57.
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2587. - General?
- These are crucial documents,
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2588. classified top secret, but
basically in them...
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2589. Kennedy instructed General Lemnitzer,
chairman of the Joint Chiefs,
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2590. - that from here on forward,
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2591. the Joint Chiefs of Staff would be
wholly responsible
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2592. for all covert paramilitary action
in peacetime.
Copy !req
2593. This basically ended the reign
of the CIA.
Copy !req
2594. Splintered it,
as JFK promised he would,
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2595. into a thousand pieces,
Copy !req
2596. and now he was ordering the military
to help him do it.
Copy !req
2597. This was unprecedented!
Copy !req
2598. I can't tell you
Copy !req
2599. the shock waves that this sent along the
corridors of power in Washington.
Copy !req
2600. This and, of course, the firing of
Allen Dulles, Richard Bissell,
Copy !req
2601. and General Charles Cabell,
Copy !req
2602. all of them sacred cows in Intel
since World War II.
Copy !req
2603. You got some very upset
people here.
Copy !req
2604. Kennedy's directives were never really
implemented because of...
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2605. bureaucratic resistance,
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2606. but one of the results was...
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2607. the Cuban operation was turned over
to my department
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2608. as "Operation Mongoose."
Copy !req
2609. Mongoose was pure Black Ops.
Copy !req
2610. It was secretly based in the south
campus of Miami University,
Copy !req
2611. which was the largest domestic
CIA station,
Copy !req
2612. budgeted annually over hundreds
of millions of dollars.
Copy !req
2613. Three hundred agents,
7,000 select Cubans,
Copy !req
2614. 50 fake business fronts for
laundering money.
Copy !req
2615. They waged non-stop war
against Castro.
Copy !req
2616. Industrial sabotage, crop burning,
the works.
Copy !req
2617. And all of this came under
the control of General Y.
Copy !req
2618. All he did was take the rules of covert
warfare he'd used abroad,
Copy !req
2619. and brought them into
this country.
Copy !req
2620. Now he had the people,
the equipment, the bases,
Copy !req
2621. and the motivation.
Copy !req
2622. And don't underestimate the budget
cuts that Kennedy called for
Copy !req
2623. in March of '63 either.
Copy !req
2624. Nearly 52 military installations in
25 states, 21 overseas bases.
Copy !req
2625. You're talking big money.
Copy !req
2626. You know how many helicopters have
been lost in Vietham?
Copy !req
2627. Hmm?
Copy !req
2628. - Nearly 3,000 so far.
Copy !req
2629. Who makes them?
Bell Helicopter. Who owns Bell?
Copy !req
2630. Well, Bell was nearly bankrupt when
the First National Bank of Boston
Copy !req
2631. approached the CIA about developing
the helicopter for Indochina usage.
Copy !req
2632. How about the F-111 fighters?
Copy !req
2633. General Dynamics of Fort Worth,
Texas. Who owns that?
Copy !req
2634. Find out the defense budget
since the war began.
Copy !req
2635. Seventy-five going on 100 billion.
Copy !req
2636. Nearly 200 billion will be spent
before it's over.
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2637. In 1949, it was 10 billion.
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2638. No war, no money.
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2639. The organizing principle of any society,
Mr. Garrison, is for war.
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2640. The authority of the state over its people
resides in its war powers.
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2641. And Kennedy wanted to end the Cold War
in his second term.
Copy !req
2642. He wanted to call off the moon race
in favor of cooperation with the Soviets.
Copy !req
2643. He signed a treaty with the Soviets
to ban nuclear testing,
Copy !req
2644. he refused to invade Cuba
in 1962,
Copy !req
2645. and he set out to withdraw
from Vietnam.
Copy !req
2646. But all of that ended on
the 22nd of November, 1963.
Copy !req
2647. As early as 1961 they knew Kennedy was
not going to go to war in Southeast Asia.
Copy !req
2648. Like Caesar, he is surrounded by enemies
and something's underway,
Copy !req
2649. but it has no face,
yet everybody in the loop knows.
Copy !req
2650. You can forget about your
combat troops.
Copy !req
2651. He told McNamara he is gonna pull out
the goddamned advisors!
Copy !req
2652. He fucked us in Laos, and now,
he is gonna fuck us in goddamn Vietnam!
Copy !req
2653. He won't implement it before
the election, he can't afford to.
Copy !req
2654. I hear the NSC meeting
was a real barn-burner.
Copy !req
2655. I wouldn't have missed it for the world.
Heads are gonna roll everywhere.
Copy !req
2656. Did you hear what Lemnitzer did?
Copy !req
2657. What happened?
Copy !req
2658. Kennedy tried to rub Lem's nose in shit,
saying if we didn't go into Cuba,
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2659. which is so close, why should we go into
Vietnam, which is so far away.
Copy !req
2660. Son of a bitch, there he goes again.
He's got his hands on the chicken switch.
Copy !req
2661. Anyway, Lem said that the Chiefs still
think we oughta go into Cuba.
Copy !req
2662. - Money's at stake. Big money.
Copy !req
2663. Hundred billion dollars.
Copy !req
2664. Kennedy brothers target voting districts
for those defense dollars.
Copy !req
2665. They give TFX fighter contracts
Copy !req
2666. only to those counties that are gonna
make a difference in '64.
Copy !req
2667. And the people in the loop,
they fight back. Their way.
Copy !req
2668. We have to control the intelligence
from Saigon.
Copy !req
2669. Well, just don't let McNamara start
sticking his damn nose in this thing!
Copy !req
2670. Every time he goes over to Saigon on
some fuckin' fact-finding mission,
Copy !req
2671. he comes back and just scares
the shit out of the president!
Copy !req
2672. Now I want Max Taylor on him night
and day, like a fly on shit.
Copy !req
2673. Now you control McNamara,
then you control Kennedy.
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2674. I think it started like that,
Copy !req
2675. in the wind.
Copy !req
2676. Defense contractors, big oil bankers.
Just conversations, nothing more.
Copy !req
2677. Then, a call is made, maybe to someone
like my superior officer, General Y.
Copy !req
2678. - Yeah?
- We're going.
Copy !req
2679. We need your help.
Copy !req
2680. - When?
- In the fall, probably in the South.
Copy !req
2681. - We want you to come up with a plan.
- I can do that.
Copy !req
2682. Everything is cellularized.
No one has said, "He must die.”
Copy !req
2683. There's been no vote, nothing's on paper,
there's no one to blame.
Copy !req
2684. It's as old as the crucifixion.
Copy !req
2685. - Or the military firing squad.
Copy !req
2686. Five bullets, one blank.
No one's guilty.
Copy !req
2687. Because everyone in the power structure
who knows anything
Copy !req
2688. has a plausible deniability.
Copy !req
2689. There are no compromising connections,
except at the most secret point.
Copy !req
2690. But what's paramount, is that it must
succeed, no matter how many die,
Copy !req
2691. no matter how much it costs, the
perpetrators must be on the winning side.
Copy !req
2692. And never subject to prosecution
for anything by anyone.
Copy !req
2693. That is a coup d'état.
Copy !req
2694. Kennedy announces
the Texas trip in September.
Copy !req
2695. At that moment, second Oswalds
start popping up all over Dallas,
Copy !req
2696. where they have the mayor
and the cops in their pocket.
Copy !req
2697. General Y flies in the assassins.
Copy !req
2698. Maybe from the special camp we keep
outside Athens, Greece.
Copy !req
2699. Pros.
Copy !req
2700. Maybe locals, Cubans, mafia hire.
Separate teams.
Copy !req
2701. Does it really matter who shot
from what rooftop?
Copy !req
2702. Part of the scenery, right?
Copy !req
2703. I keep thinking about that day,
Tuesday, the 26th of November.
Copy !req
2704. The day after they buried Kennedy.
Copy !req
2705. Gentlemen, I want you to know, I'm
not gonna let Vietham go like China did.
Copy !req
2706. I'm personally committed.
Copy !req
2707. And I'm not gonna take one soldier
outta there
Copy !req
2708. till they know we mean business
in Asia.
Copy !req
2709. Lyndon Johnson signs
National Security Memo 273,
Copy !req
2710. which essentially reverses Kennedy's
new withdrawal policy
Copy !req
2711. and gives the green light to covert
action against North Vietnam,
Copy !req
2712. which provoked
the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
Copy !req
2713. Just get me elected,
I'll give you your damn war.
Copy !req
2714. In that document...
Copy !req
2715. lay the Vietham War.
Copy !req
2716. I don't-- I can't...
Copy !req
2717. I can't believe it. They killed him
because he wanted to change things?
Copy !req
2718. In our time?
Copy !req
2719. - They been doing it all through history.
- In our country?
Copy !req
2720. Kings are killed, Mr. Garrison.
Politics is power, nothing more.
Copy !req
2721. Oh, don't take my word for it.
Don't believe me.
Copy !req
2722. Do your own work,
your own thinking.
Copy !req
2723. The size of this is...
Copy !req
2724. beyond me.
Copy !req
2725. Testify?
Copy !req
2726. - Me?
- Testify.
Copy !req
2727. No chance in hell.
Copy !req
2728. No, I'd be arrested and gagged.
Copy !req
2729. Maybe sent to an institution,
maybe worse. You, too.
Copy !req
2730. I can give you the background.
Copy !req
2731. You have to find the foreground,
the little things.
Copy !req
2732. Keep digging.
Copy !req
2733. Remember, you're the only person to bring
a trial in the murder of John Kennedy.
Copy !req
2734. That's important,
it's historic.
Copy !req
2735. I haven't yet.
Copy !req
2736. I don't have much of a case.
Copy !req
2737. You don't have a choice anymore.
Copy !req
2738. You've become a significant threat to
the national security structure.
Copy !req
2739. They would've killed you already, but
you got a lot of light on you.
Copy !req
2740. Instead, they're trying to destroy
your credibility.
Copy !req
2741. They already have in many circles
in this town.
Copy !req
2742. Be honest.
Copy !req
2743. Your only chance is to come up
with a case.
Copy !req
2744. Something, anything.
Copy !req
2745. Make arrests,
stir the shitstorm.
Copy !req
2746. Hope to reach a point of critical mass
that'll start a chain reaction
Copy !req
2747. of people coming forward.
Copy !req
2748. Then, the government will crack.
Copy !req
2749. Remember, fundamentally
people are suckers for the truth,
Copy !req
2750. and the truth is on your side,
bubba.
Copy !req
2751. I just hope you get a break.
Copy !req
2752. Mr. Shaw,
sir, you are under arrest,
Copy !req
2753. charged with conspiracy and entering
an agreement with other persons
Copy !req
2754. for the specific purpose of
committing the crime of murder
Copy !req
2755. of President John F. Kennedy.
Copy !req
2756. We have a warrant
to search the premises.
Copy !req
2757. It is my duty to inform you at
this time...
Copy !req
2758. you have the right to remain silent,
you have the right to an attorney.
Copy !req
2759. Name. First, middle, and last.
Copy !req
2760. Clay Lavergne Shaw.
Copy !req
2761. Address?
Copy !req
2762. 1313 Dauphine Street, New Orleans.
Copy !req
2763. Mr. Shaw!
Copy !req
2764. Ever use any aliases?
Copy !req
2765. Clay Bertrand.
Copy !req
2766. Mr. Clark,
are you aware of the charges
Copy !req
2767. - filed by District Attorney Garrison?
Copy !req
2768. Yes, Mr. Shaw was included in our
investigation.
Copy !req
2769. There was no connection found.
Copy !req
2770. - At all.
- Why did the FBI investigate him?
Copy !req
2771. And why, if they did,
is his name not mentioned once
Copy !req
2772. in the entire 26 volumes
of the Warren Report,
Copy !req
2773. - even it if is to clear his name?
Copy !req
2774. I doubt this attorney general
would qualify
Copy !req
2775. - for my staff.
Copy !req
2776. Mr. Garrison has presented
absolutely nothing publicly...
Copy !req
2777. which would contradict
our findings.
Copy !req
2778. I know of no fact which would refute
the Commission's conclusion
Copy !req
2779. that Lee Oswald was the lone killer.
Copy !req
2780. What's your reaction
to the chief justice's statement?
Copy !req
2781. Well, I congratulate Mr. Shaw.
Copy !req
2782. Most defendants have to wait for trial
before they're allowed to produce
Copy !req
2783. sacred cows like the chief justice of
the land as a character witness,
Copy !req
2784. who is, of course, not under oath and
free from the laws of perjury.
Copy !req
2785. You realize that you're
damaging the credibility of the country,
Copy !req
2786. - possibly destroying it?
- Let me ask you...
Copy !req
2787. Let me ask you, is a government worth
preserving when it lies to the people?
Copy !req
2788. - Huh?
Copy !req
2789. It has become a dangerous country, sir,
when you cannot trust anyone anymore,
Copy !req
2790. when you cannot tell the truth.
Copy !req
2791. I say, let justice be done, though
the heavens fall!
Copy !req
2792. The JFK conspiracy,
the case of Jim Garrison.
Copy !req
2793. - Honey, this is all about you!
Copy !req
2794. A team of reporters has learned that
District Attorney Jim Garrison
Copy !req
2795. and his staff have intimidated,
bribed, and even drugged witnesses
Copy !req
2796. in their attempt to prove a conspiracy
Copy !req
2797. involving New Orleans businessman Clay
Shaw in the murder of John F. Kennedy.
Copy !req
2798. John Chancler...
Copy !req
2799. was a cellmate of Willie O'Keefe's
Copy !req
2800. at Angola...
Copy !req
2801. He said he'd be cut loose,
if he copped to the DA's office.
Copy !req
2802. I sent him up for burglary.
Copy !req
2803. - And there's his old buddy Miguel Torres.
Copy !req
2804. We sent him up, too.
Copy !req
2805. They wanted me to say Shaw
was Bertrand.
Copy !req
2806. They said they'd get me a pardon.
Copy !req
2807. Janet Williams
Copy !req
2808. comments on Willie O'Keefe's descriptions
Copy !req
2809. of having met Oswald.
Copy !req
2810. Was he a homosexual?
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2811. That's not the Lee I knew.
Absolutely not.
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2812. I think Mr. O'Keefe must have seen
someone he thought was Lee Oswald.
Copy !req
2813. I didn't talk to nobody
Copy !req
2814. after the assassination.
Copy !req
2815. I was on drugs at the hospital.
Copy !req
2816. Like I told the FBI, that call
was a figment of my imagination.
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2817. Personally,
I think he's quite ill, mentally.
Copy !req
2818. With one half of his mind, he is able to
go out and fabricate evidence,
Copy !req
2819. then by some osmosis, he is able to
convince the other half
Copy !req
2820. that the fabrication is the truth.
Copy !req
2821. Well, I wouldn't worry about it, Liz.
Copy !req
2822. There's only about 20, 30 million people
watching this tonight.
Copy !req
2823. Guess my reputation's all right with
the people watching Laugh-in.
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2824. ...because in some way,
Mr. Garrison is indebted
Copy !req
2825. and tied to the mob?
Copy !req
2826. The more one looks at Jim Garrison,
Copy !req
2827. the more one finds he has destroyed
reputations,
Copy !req
2828. - spread fear and suspicion,
Copy !req
2829. and, worst of all, exploited this nation's
sorrow and doubt.
Copy !req
2830. - Jim Garrison has said, quote:
- You wanna be in bed with us?
Copy !req
2831. - Sleep with me tonight?
- "Let justice be done,
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2832. though the heavens fall."
Copy !req
2833. He seeks the truth, so do we.
Copy !req
2834. What Dr. Martin Luther King
called his beautiful dream,
Copy !req
2835. expressed so dramatically during
the 1963 March on Washington,
Copy !req
2836. was shattered tonight in Memphis,
Tennessee by an assassin's bullet.
Copy !req
2837. Police seem to think that the single shot
came from across the street.
Copy !req
2838. They say that they have found a
Browning automatic rifle,
Copy !req
2839. - fitted with a marksman's scope,
Copy !req
2840. on a sidewalk.
Copy !req
2841. - I'll get it!
Copy !req
2842. Hello?
Copy !req
2843. Hello, is this Jim Garrison's daughter?
Copy !req
2844. Yes.
Copy !req
2845. Virginia or Elizabeth?
Copy !req
2846. Virginia.
Copy !req
2847. Virginia,
you're a lucky little girl.
Copy !req
2848. Your daddy has entered you
in a beauty contest.
Copy !req
2849. - Would you like to be in a beauty contest?
Copy !req
2850. - I don't know.
- My God!
Copy !req
2851. - My God, what have they done?
Copy !req
2852. - Yes. Uh-huh.
- It's lynchin' time.
Copy !req
2853. It's lynchin' time.
Copy !req
2854. That sounds fun.
Copy !req
2855. And you get off from school
Copy !req
2856. - Honey, who are you talking to?
- ...at 3:00 everyday?
Copy !req
2857. Okay, Virginia,
that's all I need to know.
Copy !req
2858. - Mommy, I'm gonna be in a beauty contest!
Copy !req
2859. Who is this? Who is this?!
Copy !req
2860. Hello?
Copy !req
2861. Jim, did you enter Virginia
in a beauty contest?
Copy !req
2862. A man just called, he wanted to know
everything, her height, her weight--
Copy !req
2863. It's some crackpot.
Copy !req
2864. Martin Luther King was killed
in Memphis, today.
Copy !req
2865. Honey, your daughter's life's just
been threatened!
Copy !req
2866. Just a crank making calls,
happens a dozen times a day at the office.
Copy !req
2867. Our home, Jim! A kidnapper,
a murderer, who knows!
Copy !req
2868. Jesus Christ, Liz,
only cowards make crank calls!
Copy !req
2869. - How do you know?
- All right? Nothing's gonna happen.
Copy !req
2870. How do you even know what goes on
in this house anymore!
Copy !req
2871. You're too busy making speeches!
Copy !req
2872. Liz--
Copy !req
2873. Getting every crazed Klansman
in Louisiana after us!
Copy !req
2874. - Get a hold of yourself.
- I'm leaving! I'm taking the kids,
Copy !req
2875. - Come on, come on!
- and I'm leaving!
Copy !req
2876. I can't stand it anymore!
Copy !req
2877. - The government wants you to be scared.
- You and your government.
Copy !req
2878. The government wants everybody
to be scared to speak out.
Copy !req
2879. - What's the matter with you?
- They count on it.
Copy !req
2880. - Don't you have any feelings?
- There's nothing to be scared of.
Copy !req
2881. Your own daughter!
Copy !req
2882. What kind of man are you?
Copy !req
2883. I'll take them up to my mother's if it
makes you feel any better, all right?
Copy !req
2884. You spend a week.
Copy !req
2885. - What's a week gonna do?
- I'll change the locks, the phone lines,
Copy !req
2886. I'll even get a bodyguard.
Just get a hold of yourself.
Copy !req
2887. Honey,
before this Kennedy thing,
Copy !req
2888. nothing mattered in this world more
than your children.
Copy !req
2889. The other night Jasper tried to talk to
you, you didn't even notice he was there.
Copy !req
2890. He came to me bawling
his little eyes out.
Copy !req
2891. - I promise, all right?
- He's sensitive, honey.
Copy !req
2892. - I promise I'll make more time for Jasper.
- He needs more from you.
Copy !req
2893. Is it such a chore?
Copy !req
2894. - Goddammit, if I said I'll spend more time
- I don't understand you!
Copy !req
2895. with him, I'll spend more time
with him, all right?
Copy !req
2896. I cannot fight you and the whole
world too, Liz!
Copy !req
2897. I'm not fighting you,
I'm trying to reach you!
Copy !req
2898. - You've changed.
- Of course, I've changed!
Copy !req
2899. My eyes have opened.
Copy !req
2900. And once they're open, believe me,
what used to look normal seems insane.
Copy !req
2901. And now King. Don't you think this
has something to do with that?
Copy !req
2902. - Can't you see?
Copy !req
2903. - I don't wanna see, goddammit!
Copy !req
2904. I'm tired. I've had enough!
Copy !req
2905. You're ruining this man Shaw's life,
Copy !req
2906. you're attacking him because
he's a homosexual!
Copy !req
2907. That's not why I'm attacking him!
Copy !req
2908. Did you ever for once stop to consider
what he was feeling?
Copy !req
2909. You don't believe me? Hmm?
Copy !req
2910. - Oh, I don't know anymore!
- All this time and you never believed me!
Copy !req
2911. I just want to raise our children
and live a normal life!
Copy !req
2912. I want my life back!
Copy !req
2913. Well so do I, goddammit!
Copy !req
2914. I had a life, too, you know.
Copy !req
2915. But you just can't bury your head in
the sand like some goddamn ostrich, Liz!
Copy !req
2916. It's not about our well-being, all right?
It's not about our two cars,
Copy !req
2917. and our TVs
and your kitchen!
Copy !req
2918. It's about our kids growing up in a
shithole of lies, and I'm angry about it!
Copy !req
2919. And my life is fucked
because of it.
Copy !req
2920. And if you can see it that way, Liz,
you'll see that your life is fucked, too.
Copy !req
2921. You never talked to me this way before,
Jim Garrison.
Copy !req
2922. If you don't want to support me, fine,
I can understand that.
Copy !req
2923. But don't start making threats
about taking the children.
Copy !req
2924. I'm not making any threats,
I'm leaving you!
Copy !req
2925. - I'm taking the kids and I'm leaving!
- Go on, then, fine. Get out!
Copy !req
2926. - I am!
- Go hide somewhere, join the rest of them.
Copy !req
2927. - I am!
- They'll tell you I'm crazy.
Copy !req
2928. You'll get plenty of people to tell you
I'm crazy!
Copy !req
2929. You won't have any problems filling out
your divorce papers on me!
Copy !req
2930. But somebody's got to try,
goddammit.
Copy !req
2931. Somebody.
Copy !req
2932. Are we going away, Daddy?
Copy !req
2933. I don't know, Jasper.
Copy !req
2934. Because of Kennedy?
Copy !req
2935. Are the same people gonna kill us,
Papa?
Copy !req
2936. No, Jasper.
Copy !req
2937. Nobody's gonna kill us.
Copy !req
2938. I'm scared.
Copy !req
2939. I don't like it when you
and Mommy fight.
Copy !req
2940. I know, I don't like it either,
honey.
Copy !req
2941. Why do we have to leave?
Copy !req
2942. Don't you love us anymore?
Copy !req
2943. Daddy... Daddy loves both of you,
okay?
Copy !req
2944. And there's nothing wrong with
feeling a little scared, Jasper.
Copy !req
2945. Telling the truth can be a scary
thing sometimes.
Copy !req
2946. It scared President Kennedy,
and he was a brave man.
Copy !req
2947. But if you let yourself be too scared...
Copy !req
2948. then you let the bad guys take over
the country, don't you?
Copy !req
2949. Yeah.
Copy !req
2950. Then everybody gets scared.
Copy !req
2951. Stay with Mom, Papa.
Copy !req
2952. Please?
Copy !req
2953. - Damn. Here's another one.
Copy !req
2954. The US Attorney in Washington declines
to serve our subpoena
Copy !req
2955. on Allen Dulles, Charles Cabell,
CIA Director Richard Helms--
Copy !req
2956. any FBI agent we named.
Copy !req
2957. Well, what do you expect from a pig
but a grunt.
Copy !req
2958. Without them, it's going to be
near impossible, chief,
Copy !req
2959. to prove Shaw's connection
to the CIA.
Copy !req
2960. What the hell is going on?
Copy !req
2961. Never before has an extradition request
from this office been refused.
Copy !req
2962. We haven't tried to get
Julia Ann Mercer in here.
Copy !req
2963. No, she could get hurt.
Copy !req
2964. What?
Copy !req
2965. If you believe what's happened
to these other people, no.
Copy !req
2966. Yeah, but she's the best damn witness
we have!
Copy !req
2967. I just don't want to do it, that's all.
Now, what else?
Copy !req
2968. Well, you got your hate mail here.
Copy !req
2969. And your fan mail here.
Copy !req
2970. The bad news is that the IRS requested an
audit of your income from this office.
Copy !req
2971. Well, I expected that
two months ago,
Copy !req
2972. and they're wasting their time.
Copy !req
2973. The bad news is the National Guard
just asked me to resign after 18 years.
Copy !req
2974. Well, maybe
that's the good news.
Copy !req
2975. Never was as good as combat,
anyway.
Copy !req
2976. But this is.
Copy !req
2977. Bill,
any more on Oswald and Shaw?
Copy !req
2978. Uh, yeah, yeah.
Copy !req
2979. They were seen together in Clinton in
early September.
Copy !req
2980. The Civil Rights Movement was
running a voters' registration drive.
Copy !req
2981. Rumor is Shaw, a local boy,
was working on some arms deal
Copy !req
2982. to discredit the civil rights movement.
Copy !req
2983. Nobody really knows
what they were doing there, but...
Copy !req
2984. hell, they stood out like cotton balls.
Copy !req
2985. I got whites and coloreds
saw ‘em, but...
Copy !req
2986. last time I checked, there was nothing
illegal with registering to vote.
Copy !req
2987. We still got the negro junkie,
Vernon Bundy,
Copy !req
2988. who saw 'em talkin' at the seawall
near Lake Pontchartrain.
Copy !req
2989. But, hell, it's tough, boss,
nobody wants to talk about Shaw. He's--
Copy !req
2990. You keep saying--
see, you keep saying that!
Copy !req
2991. - You're not digging!
- I keep saying what?
Copy !req
2992. - You're not digging deep enough.
- I'm not digging?
Copy !req
2993. - You do my job, I'll do your job!
Copy !req
2994. I think Clinton is a breakthrough,
now, all right?
Copy !req
2995. Now, Shaw denies ever knowing
Ferrie or Oswald, right?
Copy !req
2996. Right.
Copy !req
2997. All right, that proves he's a liar.
Copy !req
2998. Keep on it, Bill.
Copy !req
2999. This is interesting.
Copy !req
3000. Oswald went to see the FBI two weeks
before the assassination.
Copy !req
3001. Can I see Special Agent Hosty,
please?
Copy !req
3002. I'm sorry, he's not in.
Can someone else help you?
Copy !req
3003. It seems Special Agent Hosty made
three visits to Janet Williams' house,
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3004. supposedly to keep an eye on Marina.
Copy !req
3005. He left a note.
Copy !req
3006. Hosty told a Dallas newspaperman that
it was a warning to him
Copy !req
3007. to stop questioning Marina at home
when Oswald was not present.
Copy !req
3008. She was not a citizen, so possibly he was
threatening to deport her back to Russia.
Copy !req
3009. But what the note really said
no one knows.
Copy !req
3010. - Hosty tore it up,
- Get rid of it!
Copy !req
3011. - and flushed it down the toilet.
- Get rid of it, Hosty.
Copy !req
3012. This is just speculation,
people, but
Copy !req
3013. what if the note was describing the
assassination attempt on JFK?
Copy !req
3014. Come on, people, think!
Copy !req
3015. That's the only reason to destroy it.
Copy !req
3016. Because if it was any kind of threat,
like Hosty said, they would've kept it,
Copy !req
3017. ‘cause it makes their case against
the "angry, lone nut” that much stronger.
Copy !req
3018. Remember the New Orleans meeting
with Agent Quigley
Copy !req
3019. - the day he got arrested?
Copy !req
3020. There, again, Quigley destroyed the notes
from the interview.
Copy !req
3021. I think we can raise the possibility that
Oswald not only was an informant...
Copy !req
3022. but that he may well have been the
original source we have for the telex
Copy !req
3023. dated November 17th,
Copy !req
3024. warning of Kennedy's assassination
in Dallas on November 22nd.
Copy !req
3025. William Walter, the night clerk on duty
in the FBI office here,
Copy !req
3026. he gave me a copy of this,
Copy !req
3027. said it went all over the country,
nothing was done,
Copy !req
3028. and the motorcade went ahead
on schedule.
Copy !req
3029. And this wasn't even mentioned in
the Warren Report.
Copy !req
3030. Determined that a militant
revolutionary group
Copy !req
3031. may attempt to assassinate
President Kennedy
Copy !req
3032. on his proposed trip to Dallas,
Texas.
Copy !req
3033. Shortly after the assassination,
Walter says
Copy !req
3034. that the telex was removed from all
the files in all the cities,
Copy !req
3035. as an obvious embarrassment
to the Bureau.
Copy !req
3036. I believe Oswald was sending
information through Hosty.
Copy !req
3037. I have a hunch that,
from the get go,
Copy !req
3038. Oswald had infiltrated this group,
probably Cubans, right-wing extremists.
Copy !req
3039. - He was told to be at the book depository
Copy !req
3040. that day by his handlers, to either
prevent the assassination
Copy !req
3041. or to take part in it.
Copy !req
3042. I mean, they coulda told him
anything,
Copy !req
3043. either they were gonna close down
the plotters
Copy !req
3044. - that day,
Copy !req
3045. or they were gonna simulate an attack on
Kennedy to whip up public opinion
Copy !req
3046. so that Kennedy would have to reverse
his policies on communism.
Copy !req
3047. It doesn't really matter what
they told him.
Copy !req
3048. - He was under orders.
Copy !req
3049. He was a foot soldier.
Copy !req
3050. - And, uh...
Copy !req
3051. You can't miss.
Copy !req
3052. He is a dead duck.
Copy !req
3053. I don't buy it, chief.
Copy !req
3054. Why would the FBI cover it up?
Copy !req
3055. A telex that disappears from every single
FBI office in this country?
Copy !req
3056. There's a word, Bill.
Copy !req
3057. Orders.
Copy !req
3058. Or a cover up!
Copy !req
3059. Jesus, Bill, don't you have enough proof
of the FBI's complicity yet?
Copy !req
3060. Maybe I have a little more respect for
this country's institutions--
Copy !req
3061. - My God!
- than you do, Susie!
Copy !req
3062. How much more do you need?
Copy !req
3063. You tell me how the hell you gonna keep
a conspiracy going on between
Copy !req
3064. the mob, the CIA, the FBI,
and Army Intelligence,
Copy !req
3065. and who the hell knows what else,
Copy !req
3066. when you know for a fact you can't
keep a secret in this room
Copy !req
3067. between 12 people.
Copy !req
3068. We got leaks everywhere!
Copy !req
3069. I mean, we are going to trial here,
y'all!
Copy !req
3070. What the hell do we really got?
Copy !req
3071. Oswald, Ruby, Banister, Ferrie
are dead!
Copy !req
3072. Shaw, I mean maybe he's an agent,
I don't know,
Copy !req
3073. but as a covert operator in my book
he is wide open for blackmail
Copy !req
3074. ‘cause of his homosexuality.
Copy !req
3075. Shaw's our toehold, Bill. Now, I don't
know exactly what he is or where he fits,
Copy !req
3076. and I don't really care.
Copy !req
3077. I do know he's lying through his
teeth and I'm not gonna let go of him.
Copy !req
3078. Yeah, and for those reasons, you're going
to trial against Clay Shaw, chief?
Copy !req
3079. Well, you're gonna lose!
Copy !req
3080. We should be investigating our mafia
leads here in New Orleans.
Copy !req
3081. Now, I can buy that a hell of a lot easier
than I can the government.
Copy !req
3082. Ruby is all mob, knows Oswald,
sets him up.
Copy !req
3083. Hoffa, Trafficante, Marcello, they hire
some guns to do Kennedy,
Copy !req
3084. and the government doesn't want to open up
a whole can of worms there because
Copy !req
3085. it used the mob to try to get
to Castro.
Copy !req
3086. You know, Castro being assassinated
by the mob, by us,
Copy !req
3087. it sounds pretty wild to
John Q. Citizen.
Copy !req
3088. So they close the book on JFK.
Copy !req
3089. Makes perfect sense to me.
Copy !req
3090. I don't doubt their involvement, Bill,
but at a low level.
Copy !req
3091. - Oh, come on!
- Could the mob
Copy !req
3092. change the parade route, Bill?
Copy !req
3093. Or eliminate the protection for
the president?
Copy !req
3094. Could the mob send Oswald to Russia
and get him back?
Copy !req
3095. Could the mob get the FBI, the CIA,
and the Dallas police
Copy !req
3096. to make a mess
of the investigation?
Copy !req
3097. I mean, could the mob get the Warren
Commission appointed to cover it up?
Copy !req
3098. Could the mob wreck the autopsy?
Copy !req
3099. I mean, could the mob influence
the national media to go to sleep?
Copy !req
3100. And since when has the mob used
anything but. 38s for hits up close?
Copy !req
3101. The mob wouldn't have the guts or the
power for something of this magnitude.
Copy !req
3102. Assassins need payrolls,
Copy !req
3103. schedules, times, orders.
Copy !req
3104. This was a military-style ambush
from start to finish.
Copy !req
3105. This was a coup d'état with Lyndon
Johnson waiting in the wings.
Copy !req
3106. Oh, okay, so now you're saying Lyndon
Johnson was involved?
Copy !req
3107. - Huh? The President of the United States?
- I know this, Bill.
Copy !req
3108. Lyndon Johnson got one billion dollars
for his Texas friends, Brown and Root,
Copy !req
3109. to dredge Cam Ranh Bay for the military
in Vietnam.
Copy !req
3110. - That's just for openers.
- Boss!
Copy !req
3111. Are you calling the president
a murderer?
Copy !req
3112. If I'm so far from the truth, why is the
FBI bugging our offices?
Copy !req
3113. Huh? Why are our witnesses
being bought off and murdered?
Copy !req
3114. Why are federal agencies blocking our
extraditions and subpoenas,
Copy !req
3115. - when we were never blocked before?
- I don't know!
Copy !req
3116. I don't-- maybe there's some rogue element
in the government or something.
Copy !req
3117. - Oh, come on!
- With a full-blown conspiracy
Copy !req
3118. to cover it up?
Copy !req
3119. You ever read your Shakespeare, Bill?
Copy !req
3120. Yeah, I do.
Copy !req
3121. Julius Caesar.
Copy !req
3122. "Brutus and Cassius, they, too,
are honorable men."
Copy !req
3123. Who killed Caesar?
Copy !req
3124. Ten, 12 senators.
Copy !req
3125. All's it takes is one Judas,
Bill.
Copy !req
3126. A few people on the inside.
Copy !req
3127. Pentagon, CIA--
Copy !req
3128. This is Louisiana, chief.
Copy !req
3129. I mean, how the hell do you know
who your daddy is?
Copy !req
3130. - ‘Cause your mama told you so.
Copy !req
3131. You are way out there taking a crap
in the wind, boss,
Copy !req
3132. and I, for one, am not going along
on this one!
Copy !req
3133. Chief, I've had my doubts all along
about Bill.
Copy !req
3134. Been fighting us all along.
Copy !req
3135. Well, we need him back.
Copy !req
3136. Boss, Broussard wasted a whole damn month
trying to prove that mob boys,
Copy !req
3137. like Jack Ruby and Brading,
are hooked up with Hunt Oil.
Copy !req
3138. I don't trust the guy.
Copy !req
3139. I will not hear this, gentlemen. Now,
I value Bill as much as any person here.
Copy !req
3140. I think it's time we all made room for
someone else's ideas, including me.
Copy !req
3141. Maybe Oswald is what everyone says
he is and I'm just...
Copy !req
3142. I'm just plain dumb about it.
Copy !req
3143. I've seen him copying files,
leaving here late at night.
Copy !req
3144. I just plain don't trust--
Copy !req
3145. Maybe you two didn't hear
what I said.
Copy !req
3146. Now, I said I will not tolerate infighting
among the staff!
Copy !req
3147. I'm afraid I cannot work with
Bill Broussard anymore.
Copy !req
3148. Are you giving me an ultimatum,
Lou?
Copy !req
3149. What?
Copy !req
3150. - Are you giving me an ultimatum?
Copy !req
3151. Well,
if that's what you want to call it.
Copy !req
3152. You know, I never thought
it would come to this.
Copy !req
3153. I guess I am.
Copy !req
3154. Well, I will not have any damned
ultimatums put to me, Lou.
Copy !req
3155. I'll accept your resignation.
Copy !req
3156. Well, you sure got it.
Copy !req
3157. You are one stubborn
son of a bitch.
Copy !req
3158. And you're making
a hell of a mistake.
Copy !req
3159. Boss,
aren't you being a little hard?
Copy !req
3160. No, I don't think I am, Susie.
Copy !req
3161. Anyone else?
Copy !req
3162. And now, Jerry, here's Jim Garrison,
Copy !req
3163. the District Attorney of New Orleans,
Louisiana.
Copy !req
3164. Welcome, District Attorney
Garrison.
Copy !req
3165. So, you're investigating the murder of
President Kennedy.
Copy !req
3166. You know, I must say, we have heard
some strange things
Copy !req
3167. coming out of your office
in New Orleans.
Copy !req
3168. First we heard that the Cuban
exiles killed the president.
Copy !req
3169. Then, the mob.
Copy !req
3170. Now your latest theory
seems to be that the CIA,
Copy !req
3171. and the FBI, and the Pentagon,
Copy !req
3172. and the White House,
Copy !req
3173. all combined in some elaborate conspiracy
to kill John Kennedy.
Copy !req
3174. Let me ask you,
Copy !req
3175. is there anyone besides
Lee Harvey Oswald
Copy !req
3176. who you think didn't conspire to kill
the president?
Copy !req
3177. Let's just say this, Jerry.
Copy !req
3178. I've stopped beating my wife.
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3179. Maybe you should ask Lyndon Johnson.
We know he has some answers.
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3180. Now, there have been a number of reports
in reputable news media,
Copy !req
3181. Time, Newsweek, our own NBC,
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3182. that you've gone way beyond the legal
means available to a prosecutor,
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3183. that you've intimidated-- even drugged--
witnesses,
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3184. bribed them,
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3185. urged them to commit perjury.
Copy !req
3186. Do you have a response to this?
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3187. Your faith in the veracity of the major
media is touching, Jerry.
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3188. It indicates that the Age of Innocence
is not yet over.
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3189. But ask yourself...
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3190. If we'd learned on November 22nd, 1963
that the Premier of Russia had been shot
Copy !req
3191. from a Moscow office building
by a lonely, capitalist sympathizer,
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3192. who, himself, was then liquidated by a
patriotic Muscovite within 48 hours
Copy !req
3193. while surrounded by armed police,
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3194. I think it would be pretty apparent to any
free-thinking person
Copy !req
3195. that a coup d'état and a transfer of power
had just taken place in the Soviet Union.
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3196. - And we would not be asking questions
Copy !req
3197. or attacking Jim Garrison
or his record.
Copy !req
3198. We would,
in a free-thinking society,
Copy !req
3199. be asking hard questions about
why he was killed
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3200. and what forces were opposed to him.
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3201. Jim, you know, there are some people
who might say you're paranoid.
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3202. Maybe I'd better show you
some pictures,
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3203. so you can begin to understand
what it is I'm talking about.
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3204. These are arrests.
Copy !req
3205. Now, these arrests were
photographed...
Copy !req
3206. minutes after the assassination.
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3207. Now, they were never shown
to the American public.
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3208. Jim, I'm sorry, these pictures
can't show up on TV.
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3209. - Well, sure they can.
- No, I'm sorry, they can't.
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3210. No, the--
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3211. - The camera can pick these up.
- Jim, I'm sorry.
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3212. They can't. We have libel laws,
you know.
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3213. Those men you just saw were arrested in
Dallas minutes after the assassination.
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3214. They were never seen again.
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3215. No record of arrest,
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3216. - no mugshot, no fingerprint.
- Jim, hold that thought.
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3217. - We're gonna be back,
- They got away--
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3218. right after these commercials.
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3219. - Who were they?
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3220. Chief!
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3221. Bill, what the hell
are you doing here?
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3222. I'm sorry about the other day,
chief.
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3223. I didn't mean to walk out
on you like that.
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3224. Bill, you came all the way
to tell me the obvious?
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3225. No, boss, look.
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3226. I just got word there's gonna be
an attempt to kill you
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3227. somewhere between here
and New Orleans.
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3228. A mob guy was brought down
by Shaw from Canada.
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3229. - This is serious, chief.
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3230. You're gonna need a bodyguard
tonight in Phoenix.
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3231. Bill,
when you were in the Army,
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3232. did you have a chance to find out
what an order meant?
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3233. - Hmm?
- Yes.
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3234. You happen to remember my ordering
everyone on the staff not to participate
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3235. in passing on these endless rumors about
how somebody is gonna be killed?
Copy !req
3236. Yes, I do, boss, but this--
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3237. No, there is no "but."
Copy !req
3238. There is no "but" in a military
situation, Broussard!
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3239. I don't appreciate your dumping this
paranoid garbage on me.
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3240. And I don't appreciate your inability
to follow a simple order,
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3241. especially when it means I'm personally
gonna end up paying for your flight
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3242. back to New Orleans.
Copy !req
3243. Let's get you a ticket.
Copy !req
3244. Boss, I'm sorry.
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3245. - I'm just looking out for you.
- Thank you.
Copy !req
3246. Get a receipt.
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3247. Come on, come on.
He's out of here.
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3248. Jim, where are you going?
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3249. It's me, Samuel.
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3250. Hey!
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3251. - How long were you in that restroom?
- None of your goddamn business.
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3252. Jim, bad news,
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3253. Bill's turned.
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3254. I think he's given everything we've got
to the feds.
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3255. We studied the memos and there was
nothing there, chief.
Copy !req
3256. Nothing.
Copy !req
3257. We went to confront him and the landlady
said the son of a bitch just took off.
Copy !req
3258. - Left everything.
Copy !req
3259. It's unbelievable. I'm sorry.
Copy !req
3260. Mattie, could you get Mr. Garrison
a drink, please?
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3261. - Something sure scared him.
Copy !req
3262. Well, Bill doesn't scare that easy.
Somebody got to his thinking.
Copy !req
3263. He was never that good a thinker.
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3264. He sure fooled us.
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3265. No, no, Numa, don't turn it down.
Copy !req
3266. - Turn it up, I want to see this.
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3267. Well, you know what's
happening, he's winning.
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3268. Senator
Eugene McCarthy of Minnesota.
Copy !req
3269. He'll never make it.
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3270. If he wins, they'll kill him.
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3271. He'll stop the war.
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3272. They'll kill him before they let him
be president.
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3273. Thank you, Mattie.
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3274. Boss, with Broussard,
they have everything.
Copy !req
3275. All our witnesses,
our strategies for the trial.
Copy !req
3276. We got to double check
his work.
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3277. There could be false leads.
We can't go to trial.
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3278. We don't have a prayer!
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3279. I don't think so, Al.
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3280. I have to agree with Al, boss.
Copy !req
3281. This is not one
we're gonna come out on.
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3282. You remember the Hemingway story,
The Old Man and the Sea?
Copy !req
3283. The old fisherman manages
to catch this great fish,
Copy !req
3284. a fish so huge that he has to tie it
to the side of the boat
Copy !req
3285. in order to get it back in.
Copy !req
3286. But by the time it reached
the shore,
Copy !req
3287. the fish had long since been picked
apart by sharks.
Copy !req
3288. Nothing was left but the skeleton.
Copy !req
3289. And that's what's gonna
happen to us.
Copy !req
3290. Then what'd we go to all this
trouble for, boss?
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3291. It's a means to an end.
Copy !req
3292. Now, this war has two fronts.
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3293. In a court of law, we hope,
against the odds,
Copy !req
3294. to nail Clay Shaw
on a conspiracy charge.
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3295. In the court of public opinion, it could
take another 25, 30 years
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3296. for the truth to come out.
Copy !req
3297. But at least we're gonna strike
the first blow.
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3298. What if you're wrong?
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3299. I never thought for a second
I was, honey.
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3300. - Liz.
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3301. Will you come to the trial?
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3302. I don't think so.
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3303. - CBS News has projected
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3304. Senator Robert Kennedy the winner of
the crucial California primary.
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3305. And that is what has been
going on within the United States
Copy !req
3306. over the period of the last three years
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3307. the division, the violence,
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3308. the disenchantment
with our society,
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3309. the divisions, whether it's between
blacks and whites,
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3310. between the poor and
the more affluent,
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3311. or between age groups or on
the war in Vietnam,
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3312. that we can start to work together.
We are a great country,
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3313. an unselfish country,
and a compassionate country.
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3314. And I intend to make that
my basis for running...
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3315. Senator Kennedy has been shot!
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3316. We don't know how serious it is, but we do
know Senator Kennedy has been shot!
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3317. Get the gun! Get the gun!
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3318. Stay away from the gun!
Copy !req
3319. They killed him, honey.
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3320. Hmm?
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3321. He won, and they killed
Robert Kennedy.
Copy !req
3322. - No.
- They shot him down.
Copy !req
3323. Oh, my God.
Copy !req
3324. Both of them?
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3325. Both brothers?
Copy !req
3326. You were right.
Copy !req
3327. It hasn't ended.
Copy !req
3328. For the first time...
Copy !req
3329. I feel really scared.
Copy !req
3330. I wish I could've loved you more.
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3331. Sometimes I feel like I didn't ever
love you
Copy !req
3332. or the children enough.
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3333. I'm sorry.
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3334. Please rise.
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3335. Oyez, oyez, oyez!
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3336. The Criminal District Court for
Orleans Parish, Section H,
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3337. is now in session.
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3338. Honorable Judge Edward A. Haggerty,
Junior presiding.
Copy !req
3339. Please be seated.
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3340. That's Clay Bertrand.
Copy !req
3341. That's the man I saw at
David Ferrie's.
Copy !req
3342. That's who you say you saw,
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3343. a confessed homosexual,
Copy !req
3344. convicted of pandering
and solicitation,
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3345. a man who has lied
about everything,
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3346. and now wants to be taken
at his word.
Copy !req
3347. It was that man right there.
Yes, sir.
Copy !req
3348. He was at the Pontchartrain wall,
Copy !req
3349. with the man
who shot the president.
Copy !req
3350. I remember him ‘cause of his limp.
Copy !req
3351. A heroin addict,
injecting himself at the wall,
Copy !req
3352. barely conscious
of his surroundings.
Copy !req
3353. Is that the man?
Copy !req
3354. That was the man, right there.
Copy !req
3355. He dropped Oswald off
on the voters' line.
Copy !req
3356. I remember ‘cause they were the
only white strangers around that morning.
Copy !req
3357. That big, black Cadillac of his
made me think they might be FBI.
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3358. Said he was a representative of one
International Trade Mart in New Orleans.
Copy !req
3359. More than five years ago,
for two minutes.
Copy !req
3360. It's fair to say you could
be mistaken.
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3361. It was just a figment of my imagination.
Copy !req
3362. The cat's stewing you, the oyster's
shucking you, I told him.
Copy !req
3363. You got the right ta-ta,
but the wrong ho-ho.
Copy !req
3364. Bertrand is not Shaw, scout's honor,
and you can tell him I said so.
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3365. Objection, your Honor.
This office has won
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3366. a conviction of perjury against
Dean Andrews on this matter.
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3367. Exception taken.
That case is on appeal.
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3368. Mr. Goldberg,
Copy !req
3369. you claim that you met David Ferrie
and Clay Shaw on a vacation trip
Copy !req
3370. from your accounting business in New York.
Copy !req
3371. You had drinks...
Copy !req
3372. and, under the influence, discussed
killing Kennedy, is that not so?
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3373. Yes, I did.
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3374. Is it not also true that you
fingerprinted your daughter
Copy !req
3375. when she went to Louisiana
State University?
Copy !req
3376. Yes, sir, I did.
Copy !req
3377. And is it not also true that you
fingerprinted her when she returned
Copy !req
3378. at the end of the semester?
Copy !req
3379. Yes, I did.
Copy !req
3380. Why?
Copy !req
3381. Well, I wanted to make sure that she was
the same girl I sent away.
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3382. He was one of Broussard's
witnesses, chief.
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3383. He was totally sane when we took
his affidavit.
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3384. Your Honor, we call police officer
Aloysius Habighorst to the stand.
Copy !req
3385. I'm going to have to ask the jury to
leave the courtroom.
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3386. Gentlemen, will you please rise
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3387. - What?
- and follow me?
Copy !req
3388. Name. First, middle, and last.
Copy !req
3389. Clay Lavergne Shaw.
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3390. The defendant did not have his lawyer
present when asked!
Copy !req
3391. Jesus, Ed, from time immemorial, it's
been standard booking procedure
Copy !req
3392. - to ask an alias, you know that!
- I call ‘em as I see ‘em!
Copy !req
3393. - Ever use any aliases?
- Clay Bertrand.
Copy !req
3394. There's no constitutional requirement
that says a lawyer
Copy !req
3395. - has to be present for routine questions!
- I'm ruling it inadmissible!
Copy !req
3396. - I'm ruling it inadmissible.
- Well, hell, Ed, that's our case!
Copy !req
3397. If that's your case,
you didn't have a case.
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3398. I wouldn't believe anything
Habighorst said, anyway.
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3399. I can't believe you're saying this
in the courtroom.
Copy !req
3400. Well, I am saying it.
Bring in the jury.
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3401. Oswald?
Copy !req
3402. No, I did not.
Copy !req
3403. Ever called Dean Andrews?
Copy !req
3404. No, I did not.
Copy !req
3405. And have you ever met
David Ferrie?
Copy !req
3406. No.
Copy !req
3407. Wouldn't even know what
he looked like,
Copy !req
3408. if it hadn't been for the pictures
I'd been shown.
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3409. Did you ever use the alias
Clay Bertrand?
Copy !req
3410. No.
Copy !req
3411. I did not.
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3412. Thank you, Mr. Shaw.
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3413. Well, a very great actor has just given us
a great performance, Your Honor,
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3414. but we are nowhere closer
to the truth.
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3415. Let it be noted that my office is
charging Clay Shaw
Copy !req
3416. with outright perjury on the 15 answers he
has given in this courtroom today,
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3417. not one word of truth
having escaped his lips--
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3418. You're out of order, Jim Boy,
now sit down!
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3419. To prove there was a conspiracy
involving Clay Shaw,
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3420. we must first prove that there was
more than one man
Copy !req
3421. involved in the assassination.
Copy !req
3422. To do that...
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3423. we must look at the Zapruder film,
which my office has subpoenaed.
Copy !req
3424. - The American public has not seen that--
Copy !req
3425. The American public
has not seen that film
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3426. because it has been kept locked away in
a vault for the last five years,
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3427. in the Time-Life Building
in New York City.
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3428. There's a reason for that.
Copy !req
3429. Watch.
Copy !req
3430. Picture speaks a thousand
words, doesn't it.
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3431. The Warren Commission thought they had
an open-and-shut case.
Copy !req
3432. Three bullets, one assassin.
Copy !req
3433. But two unpredictable things happened that
day that made it virtually impossible.
Copy !req
3434. One, the eight-millimeter home movie
taken by Abraham Zapruder
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3435. while standing near the grassy knoll.
Copy !req
3436. And two,
Copy !req
3437. the third wounded man,
James Tague,
Copy !req
3438. who was nicked by a fragment
Copy !req
3439. while standing near the
Triple Underpass.
Copy !req
3440. The time frame of 5.6 seconds
established by the Zapruder film,
Copy !req
3441. left no possibility of
a fourth shot.
Copy !req
3442. So the shot or fragment
Copy !req
3443. that left a superficial wound on
Tague's cheek,
Copy !req
3444. had to come from one of
the three bullets
Copy !req
3445. fired from the sixth floor
of the depository.
Copy !req
3446. That leaves just two bullets.
Copy !req
3447. And we know one of them was the fatal
head shot that killed Kennedy.
Copy !req
3448. So, now, a single bullet remains.
Copy !req
3449. A single bullet now has to account
for the remaining
Copy !req
3450. seven wounds in Kennedy
and Connally.
Copy !req
3451. But rather than admit to a conspiracy
or investigate further,
Copy !req
3452. the Warren Commission chose to endorse
the theory put forth
Copy !req
3453. by an ambitious junior counsellor,
Arlen Specter,
Copy !req
3454. one of the grossest lies ever forced on
the American people.
Copy !req
3455. We've come to know it as the
"magic bullet" theory.
Copy !req
3456. The magic bullet...
Copy !req
3457. enters the President's back, headed
downward at an angle of 17 degrees.
Copy !req
3458. It then moves upward,
Copy !req
3459. in order to leave Kennedy's body
from the front of his neck,
Copy !req
3460. wound number two,
Copy !req
3461. where it waits 1.6 seconds,
Copy !req
3462. presumably in midair,
where it turns right,
Copy !req
3463. then left,
Copy !req
3464. right, then left,
Copy !req
3465. and continues into Connally's body
at the rear of his right armpit,
Copy !req
3466. wound number three.
Copy !req
3467. The bullet then heads
downward,
Copy !req
3468. at an angle of 27 degrees,
shattering Connally's fifth rib,
Copy !req
3469. and exiting from the right side
of his chest,
Copy !req
3470. wound number four.
Copy !req
3471. The bullet then turns right,
Copy !req
3472. and reenters Connally's body
at his right wrist,
Copy !req
3473. would number five.
Copy !req
3474. Shattering the radius bone,
Copy !req
3475. the bullet then exits Connally's wrist,
wound number six,
Copy !req
3476. makes a dramatic U-turn,
Copy !req
3477. and buries itself into Connally's
left thigh,
Copy !req
3478. wound number seven,
from which it later falls out,
Copy !req
3479. and is found in almost "pristine"
condition,
Copy !req
3480. on a stretcher in a corridor of
Parkland Hospital.
Copy !req
3481. That's some bullet.
Copy !req
3482. Anyone who's been in combat will tell you
never in the history of gunfire
Copy !req
3483. has there been a bullet this
ridiculous.
Copy !req
3484. Yet the government says
it can prove it,
Copy !req
3485. with some fancy physics in a nuclear
laboratory.
Copy !req
3486. Course they can.
Copy !req
3487. Theoretical physics can prove that
an elephant can hang from a cliff
Copy !req
3488. with his tail tied to a daisy.
Copy !req
3489. But use your eyes,
your common sense.
Copy !req
3490. The Army Wound Ballistics experts
at Edgewood Arsenal
Copy !req
3491. fired some comparison bullets.
Copy !req
3492. Not one of them looked anything
like this.
Copy !req
3493. Take a look at CE 856,
Copy !req
3494. an identical bullet fired through the
wrist of a human cadaver.
Copy !req
3495. Just one of the bones smashed by
the magic bullet.
Copy !req
3496. Seven wounds, gentlemen.
Copy !req
3497. Tough skin, dense bones.
Copy !req
3498. This single bullet explanation...
Copy !req
3499. is the foundation of the Warren
Commission's claim of a lone assassin.
Copy !req
3500. And once you conclude
Copy !req
3501. the magic bullet could not create all
seven of those wounds,
Copy !req
3502. you have to conclude
that there was a fourth shot
Copy !req
3503. and a second rifleman.
Copy !req
3504. And if there was
a second rifleman...
Copy !req
3505. then, by definition,
Copy !req
3506. - there had to be a conspiracy,
Copy !req
3507. which we believe involves
the accused Clay Shaw.
Copy !req
3508. Fifty-one witnesses, gentlemen of the
jury, thought they heard shots
Copy !req
3509. coming from the grassy knoll,
Copy !req
3510. which is to the right and front of
the president.
Copy !req
3511. Key witnesses that day,
Copy !req
3512. Charles Brehm,
a combat vet.
Copy !req
3513. - Right behind, Jean Hill and Mary Moorman.
- Hey, Mr. President!
Copy !req
3514. S. M. Holland, Richard Dodd, James
Simmons standing on the overpass.
Copy !req
3515. J. C. Price,
overlooking the whole Plaza.
Copy !req
3516. William Newman, father of two children,
who hit the deck
Copy !req
3517. - on the north side of EIm.
Copy !req
3518. Abraham Zapruder.
Copy !req
3519. Each of these key witnesses
has no doubt whatsoever
Copy !req
3520. one or more shots came from
behind the picket fence.
Copy !req
3521. Twenty-six trained medical personnel
at Parkland Hospital
Copy !req
3522. saw, with their own eyes,
the back of the president's head
Copy !req
3523. blasted out!
Copy !req
3524. Dr. Peters.
Copy !req
3525. There was a large,
seven-centimeter opening
Copy !req
3526. in the right
occipitoparietal area.
Copy !req
3527. A considerable portion of the brain
was missing there.
Copy !req
3528. Almost a fifth or possibly a quarter
of the back of the head
Copy !req
3529. had been blasted out,
Copy !req
3530. - along with the underlying brain tissue.
- Father, what is the proper time to
Copy !req
3531. declare one dead for the
last rites?
Copy !req
3532. There was also a large
fragment of skull
Copy !req
3533. attached to a flap of scalp.
Copy !req
3534. The exit hole in the rear of his head
measured about 120 millimeters,
Copy !req
3535. or five inches across.
Copy !req
3536. Not one of the civilian doctors
who examined the president
Copy !req
3537. at Parkland Hospital
Copy !req
3538. regarded his throat wound as anything
but a wound of entry.
Copy !req
3539. But then the body was illegally moved
to Washington for the autopsy.
Copy !req
3540. Because when a coup d'état
has occurred,
Copy !req
3541. - Hold it!
- there's a big difference...
Copy !req
3542. - between an autopsy that is performed
Copy !req
3543. - by civilian doctors,
- You're not taking him!
Copy !req
3544. and one that is performed by military
doctors under order.
Copy !req
3545. The departure of Air Force One from
Love Field that Friday afternoon
Copy !req
3546. was not so much a takeoff
as it was a getaway
Copy !req
3547. with the newly sworn in president.
Copy !req
3548. Objection, Your Honor.
Copy !req
3549. Sustained.
Copy !req
3550. On the plane, of course,
Copy !req
3551. Lee Harvey Oswald's guilt
was announced
Copy !req
3552. by the White House Situation Room
to all passengers
Copy !req
3553. before any kind of investigation
had started,
Copy !req
3554. the "angry, lone nut" solution beginning
to take its shape.
Copy !req
3555. Objection, Your Honor!
Copy !req
3556. Sustained.
Copy !req
3557. Mr. Garrison,
will you please bottle the acid!
Copy !req
3558. The three Bethesda Naval
Hospital doctors
Copy !req
3559. picked by the military
left something to be desired
Copy !req
3560. insomuch as none of them had any
experience with combat gunfire wounds.
Copy !req
3561. Through their autopsy, we've been
able to justify eight wounds
Copy !req
3562. - from just two bullets.
Copy !req
3563. Three to Kennedy, five to Connally,
Copy !req
3564. - Look what I found on the floor.
- one of them being the magic bullet.
Copy !req
3565. - FBI?
- Here.
Copy !req
3566. Colonel Finck, are you saying
someone told you not to dissect the neck?
Copy !req
3567. I was told that the family wanted
the examination of the head.
Copy !req
3568. Oh, Christ.
Copy !req
3569. Looks like half his brain
is gone.
Copy !req
3570. Let's weigh it.
Copy !req
3571. 653 grams.
Copy !req
3572. As a pathologist,
it was your obligation
Copy !req
3573. to explore all possible
causes of death, was it not?
Copy !req
3574. I had the cause of death.
Copy !req
3575. Your Honor, I would ask you to direct
the witness to answer my question.
Copy !req
3576. Why did Colonel Finck not dissect the
track of the bullet wound?
Copy !req
3577. - Obvious tracheotomy...
- Well, I heard Dr. Humes stating that...
Copy !req
3578. That's enough, that's enough.
It's duly noted.
Copy !req
3579. Okay, let's check the
back, gentlemen.
Copy !req
3580. All right.
Copy !req
3581. There's a considerable amount of
spinal fluid coming out of his right ear.
Copy !req
3582. I can feel the end of the
wound with my finger.
Copy !req
3583. That won't be necessary,
Commander.
Copy !req
3584. - Watch the ear, watch the ear.
- Yes, sir.
Copy !req
3585. Shot in the back.
Cheap crime.
Copy !req
3586. - He said...
- Who's in charge, here?
Copy !req
3587. I am.
Copy !req
3588. I don't remember his name.
Copy !req
3589. You must understand it was
quite crowded.
Copy !req
3590. And when you are called,
in circumstances like that,
Copy !req
3591. to look at the wound of the president,
who is dead,
Copy !req
3592. you don't look around a lot to ask people
for their names and who they are.
Copy !req
3593. But you were a qualified
pathologist.
Copy !req
3594. Was this Army general a qualified
pathologist?
Copy !req
3595. - No.
Copy !req
3596. No,
but you took his orders?
Copy !req
3597. Yes.
Copy !req
3598. - So he was directing the autopsy?
- No.
Copy !req
3599. - No?
- No, no, because there were others.
Copy !req
3600. There were others?
Copy !req
3601. There were others.
There were admirals.
Copy !req
3602. - Oh, there were admirals.
- Oh, yes.
Copy !req
3603. And when you are a lieutenant colonel
in the Army, you just follow orders.
Copy !req
3604. It is not our business to discuss this
with anyone outside this room.
Copy !req
3605. As I recall it was Admiral Kenney,
the surgeon general of the Navy.
Copy !req
3606. We were specifically told
not to discuss the case.
Copy !req
3607. A lot of people that day were deciding
what was private,
Copy !req
3608. none of the American people's
business.
Copy !req
3609. The chief pathologist,
Commander Humes,
Copy !req
3610. by his own admission
voluntarily burned his autopsy notes.
Copy !req
3611. President Johnson orders the
blood-soaked limousine,
Copy !req
3612. filled with bullet holes
and clues,
Copy !req
3613. to be immediately washed
and rebuilt.
Copy !req
3614. He sends John Connally's bloody suit
right to the cleaners,
Copy !req
3615. The Justice Department denied this office
access to the autopsy photos.
Copy !req
3616. And when we finally get
a court order
Copy !req
3617. to examine President Kennedy's brain
in the National Archives,
Copy !req
3618. in the hopes of finding from
which direction the bullet came from,
Copy !req
3619. we're told by the government...
Copy !req
3620. your government...
Copy !req
3621. that the president's brain has
disappeared.
Copy !req
3622. That's not all that's disappeared,
gentlemen.
Copy !req
3623. With it, I think,
the concept of justice.
Copy !req
3624. Objection, Your Honor!
Copy !req
3625. Not only has Mr. Garrison insulted
the federal government,
Copy !req
3626. - but he is also introducing--
- Overruled! Overruled!
Copy !req
3627. So what really happened that day?
Copy !req
3628. Let's just for a moment speculate,
shall we?
Copy !req
3629. We have the epileptic seizure
around 12:15 p.m.
Copy !req
3630. distracting the police,
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3631. making it easier for the shooters to
move into their places.
Copy !req
3632. The epileptic later vanished,
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3633. - never checking into the hospital.
Copy !req
3634. The A Team gets on the sixth floor
of the depository.
Copy !req
3635. Now, they were refurbishing the floors
in the depository that week,
Copy !req
3636. which allowed unknown workmen
in and out of the building.
Copy !req
3637. They move quickly into position, just
minutes before the shooting.
Copy !req
3638. The second spotter on the radio
talking to the two other teams
Copy !req
3639. has the best overall view,
"the God spot.”
Copy !req
3640. - B Team,
Copy !req
3641. one rifleman and one spotter with a
headset and access to the building,
Copy !req
3642. moves into the low floor of the
Dal-Tex Building.
Copy !req
3643. The third team, the C Team, moves in
behind the picket fence
Copy !req
3644. above the grassy knoll,
Copy !req
3645. where the shooter and the spotter are
first seen by the late Lee Bowers
Copy !req
3646. in the watchtower of the railyard.
Copy !req
3647. - They have the best position of all.
Copy !req
3648. Kennedy is close and on a flat,
low trajectory.
Copy !req
3649. Part of this team is a coordinator,
Copy !req
3650. who's flashed security credentials
at several people,
Copy !req
3651. - chasing them out of the parking lot area.
Copy !req
3652. Probably two to three more men are down
in the crowd on Elm.
Copy !req
3653. Ten to 12 men, three teams,
three shooters.
Copy !req
3654. The triangulation of fire Clay Shaw and
David Ferrie discussed two months before.
Copy !req
3655. - They've walked the Plaza.
Copy !req
3656. They know every inch.
Copy !req
3657. They've calibrated their sights,
they've practiced on moving targets.
Copy !req
3658. They're ready.
Copy !req
3659. Kennedy's motorcade makes a turn from Main
onto Houston.
Copy !req
3660. - It's gonna be a turkey shoot.
Copy !req
3661. - They don't shoot him coming up Houston,
Copy !req
3662. which is the easiest shot for a single
shooter in the book depository!
Copy !req
3663. They wait.
Copy !req
3664. They wait till he gets to the killing zone
between three rifles.
Copy !req
3665. Kennedy makes the final turn from
Houston onto EIm,
Copy !req
3666. - slowing down...
Copy !req
3667. - to some 11 miles an hour.
Copy !req
3668. The shooters across Dealey Plaza tighten,
taking their aim,
Copy !req
3669. waiting for the radio to say,
Copy !req
3670. "green, green!"
Copy !req
3671. or "abort, abort!"
Copy !req
3672. The first shot rings out.
Copy !req
3673. Sounding like a backfire, it misses the
car completely.
Copy !req
3674. Frame 161, Kennedy stops waving as he
hears something.
Copy !req
3675. Connally's head turns
slightly to the right.
Copy !req
3676. Frame 193, the second shot hits Kennedy
in the throat from the front.
Copy !req
3677. - Frame 225,
Copy !req
3678. the president emerging from
behind the road sign.
Copy !req
3679. You can see that he's obviously been hit,
raising his arms to his throat.
Copy !req
3680. - The third shot, frame 232,
Copy !req
3681. hits Kennedy in the back, pulling him
downward and forward.
Copy !req
3682. Connally, you will notice, shows no signs
at all of being hit.
Copy !req
3683. He is visibly holding his Stetson,
Copy !req
3684. which is impossible if his wrist has
been shattered.
Copy !req
3685. Connally is turning here now.
Copy !req
3686. Frame 238, the fourth shot.
Copy !req
3687. It misses Kennedy,
Copy !req
3688. - and takes Connally in the back.
Copy !req
3689. This is the shot that proves there were
two rifles.
Copy !req
3690. Connally yells out,
"My God, they're going to kill us all!"
Copy !req
3691. Somewhere around this time now, another
shot that misses the car completely
Copy !req
3692. - strikes James Tague
Copy !req
3693. down by the underpass.
Copy !req
3694. - The car brakes.
Copy !req
3695. The sixth and fatal shot,
Copy !req
3696. frame 313, takes Kennedy in the head
from the front.
Copy !req
3697. - This is the key shot.
Copy !req
3698. The president going back
and to his left,
Copy !req
3699. shot from the front and right,
Copy !req
3700. totally inconsistent with the shot
from the depository.
Copy !req
3701. - Again, back and to the left.
Copy !req
3702. Back... and to the left.
Copy !req
3703. Back... and to the left.
Copy !req
3704. Back... and to the left.
Copy !req
3705. So what happens then?
Copy !req
3706. Pandemonium.
Copy !req
3707. - Get the hell out of here...
Copy !req
3708. The shooters quickly disassemble their
various weapons,
Copy !req
3709. all except the Oswald rifle.
Copy !req
3710. Patrolman Joe Smith rushes into the
parking lot behind the picket fence.
Copy !req
3711. - He smells gunpowder.
Copy !req
3712. The character produced credentials
from his pocket
Copy !req
3713. - that showed him to be Secret Service.
Copy !req
3714. Let's see your ID.
Copy !req
3715. - You see anybody else up here?
- No.
Copy !req
3716. Keep looking!
Copy !req
3717. So I accepted that,
and let him go
Copy !req
3718. and continued to search.
Copy !req
3719. But I regretted it, ‘cause this guy
looked like an auto mechanic.
Copy !req
3720. He had on a sports shirt
and pants,
Copy !req
3721. but he had dirty fingernails.
Copy !req
3722. Afterwards it didn't ring true,
but at the time...
Copy !req
3723. we were so pressed for time.
Copy !req
3724. Yet all Secret Servicemen in Dallas
that day are accounted for.
Copy !req
3725. None were on foot in Dealey Plaza before
or after the shooting,
Copy !req
3726. till Dallas Secret Service Chief Forrest
Sorrels returned at 12:55.
Copy !req
3727. At least 12 other individuals were taken
into custody by Dallas police.
Copy !req
3728. No record of their arrests.
Copy !req
3729. Men acting like hoboes were being
pulled off trains,
Copy !req
3730. marched through Dealey Plaza,
photographed,
Copy !req
3731. and yet there is no record
for their arrests.
Copy !req
3732. Men identifying themselves as
Secret Service agents
Copy !req
3733. were all over the place!
Copy !req
3734. But who was impersonating them?
Copy !req
3735. And where was
Lee Harvey Oswald?
Copy !req
3736. Around 12:15,
Copy !req
3737. on her way out of the building
to see the motorcade,
Copy !req
3738. secretary Carolyn Arnold sees Oswald in
the second floor snack room,
Copy !req
3739. where he said he went for a Coke.
Copy !req
3740. He was in a booth on the right side
of the room.
Copy !req
3741. Um...
Copy !req
3742. He was by himself,
as usual,
Copy !req
3743. and appeared
to be having his lunch.
Copy !req
3744. I didn't speak to him, but I recognized
him clearly.
Copy !req
3745. At the same time,
Bonnie Ray Williams
Copy !req
3746. is supposedly eating
his chicken lunch
Copy !req
3747. on the sixth floor.
Copy !req
3748. He's there until 12:15,
maybe 12:20.
Copy !req
3749. He sees nobody.
Copy !req
3750. Arnold Rowland's down on the street,
he's looking up,
Copy !req
3751. he sees two men
in the sixth floor window,
Copy !req
3752. presumably after Bonnie Ray Williams
had finished his lunch and left.
Copy !req
3753. - John Powell,
Copy !req
3754. a prisoner on the sixth floor
of the Dallas county jail, sees them.
Copy !req
3755. Quite a few of us guys saw them.
Copy !req
3756. Everybody was hollering and yelling
and all that.
Copy !req
3757. - We thought they was security guys.
Copy !req
3758. If Oswald was the assassin,
Copy !req
3759. he was certainly pretty nonchalant
about moving himself into position.
Copy !req
3760. Later, he told Dallas police he was
in the second-floor snack room.
Copy !req
3761. Probably told to wait there by his handler
for a phone call.
Copy !req
3762. But the phone call never came.
Copy !req
3763. A maximum 90 seconds after
Kennedy is shot,
Copy !req
3764. patrolman Marrion Baker
runs into Oswald
Copy !req
3765. in that second-floor
lunchroom.
Copy !req
3766. Hey, you!
Copy !req
3767. Do you know this man?
Is he an employee?
Copy !req
3768. Yes, he is.
Copy !req
3769. The president's been shot!
Copy !req
3770. But what the Warren Commission
would have us believe
Copy !req
3771. is that after firing three bolt-action
shots in 5.6 seconds,
Copy !req
3772. Oswald then leaves three cartridges neatly
side by side in the firing nest,
Copy !req
3773. wipes the rifle clear
of fingerprints,
Copy !req
3774. stashes the rifle
on the other side of the loft,
Copy !req
3775. sprints down five flights
of stairs,
Copy !req
3776. past witnesses Victoria Adams
and Sandra Styles,
Copy !req
3777. who never see him,
Copy !req
3778. then shows up,
cool and calm,
Copy !req
3779. on the second floor in front of
Patrolman Baker.
Copy !req
3780. All this within a maximum of 90 seconds
of the shooting.
Copy !req
3781. Hey, you!
Copy !req
3782. Do you know this man?
Is he an employee?
Copy !req
3783. Yes, he is.
The president's been shot!
Copy !req
3784. Is he out of breath?
Copy !req
3785. According to Baker,
absolutely not.
Copy !req
3786. Assuming he is the
sole assassin,
Copy !req
3787. Oswald is now free to escape from
the building.
Copy !req
3788. The longer he delays, the more chance the
building will be sealed by police.
Copy !req
3789. Is he guilty?
Copy !req
3790. Does he walk out the nearest
staircase?
Copy !req
3791. No, he buys a Coke.
Copy !req
3792. And at a slow pace,
Copy !req
3793. spotted by Mrs. Reid on
the second floor,
Copy !req
3794. he strolls out the more distant
front exit,
Copy !req
3795. - where the cops have gathered.
Copy !req
3796. Oddly, considering that three shots have
been fired from there,
Copy !req
3797. nobody seals the book depository for
10 more minutes.
Copy !req
3798. Oswald slips out, as do several other
employees.
Copy !req
3799. Of course, when he realized something
had gone wrong
Copy !req
3800. and the president had been killed,
Copy !req
3801. he knew there was a problem.
Copy !req
3802. He may even have known
he was the patsy.
Copy !req
3803. An intuition, maybe.
Copy !req
3804. The president killed, in spite of
his warning.
Copy !req
3805. The phone call that never came.
Copy !req
3806. Perhaps, fear now came to Oswald
for the very first time.
Copy !req
3807. So Oswald returns to his rooming
house around 1 p.m.,
Copy !req
3808. - a half hour after the assassination.
Copy !req
3809. - A man shot the president!
Copy !req
3810. He puts on his jacket, grabs his
.38 revolver,
Copy !req
3811. - and leaves at 1:04.
Copy !req
3812. - Earlene Roberts, the housekeeper,
Copy !req
3813. says she heard two beeps on a car horn,
that two uniformed cops
Copy !req
3814. pulled up to the house
where Oswald was in his room,
Copy !req
3815. like it was a signal
or something.
Copy !req
3816. Officer Tippit is shot
between 1:10
Copy !req
3817. and 1:15,
about a mile away.
Copy !req
3818. And though no one actually saw him
walking or jogging,
Copy !req
3819. the government says Oswald covered
that distance.
Copy !req
3820. Now,
giving the government
Copy !req
3821. - the benefit of the doubt,
- Sir?
Copy !req
3822. - Excuse me, sir?
- Oswald would have had to jog
Copy !req
3823. a mile in six to 11 minutes
Copy !req
3824. - and then commit the murder,
Copy !req
3825. then reverse his direction
Copy !req
3826. and walk three-fifths of a mile to
the Texas Theatre
Copy !req
3827. and arrive sometime
before 1:30.
Copy !req
3828. It's also a useful conclusion,
after all.
Copy !req
3829. Why else would Oswald
kill Tippit?
Copy !req
3830. Unless he'd just shot
the president,
Copy !req
3831. - and feared arrest?
Copy !req
3832. Domingo Benavides,
Copy !req
3833. - the closest witness to the shooting,
Copy !req
3834. refused to identify Oswald as the killer
and was never taken to a lineup.
Copy !req
3835. Acquilla Clemons saw the killer with
another man,
Copy !req
3836. and says they went off in
separate directions.
Copy !req
3837. Mrs. Clemons was never taken to a lineup
or to the Warren Commission.
Copy !req
3838. At the scene of the crime,
Copy !req
3839. Officer J. M. Poe marks the shells
with his initials
Copy !req
3840. - to record the chain of evidence.
Copy !req
3841. Those initials are not on the three
cartridge cases,
Copy !req
3842. which the Warren Commission
present to him.
Copy !req
3843. As early as 12:44, only 14 minutes
after the assassination,
Copy !req
3844. the police radio put out a description
matching Oswald's size
Copy !req
3845. - and build.
Copy !req
3846. Oswald is next seen by a shoe salesman,
Johnny Brewer,
Copy !req
3847. lurking along
Jefferson Avenue.
Copy !req
3848. Oswald is scared.
Copy !req
3849. He begins to realize the full
implications of this thing.
Copy !req
3850. He goes into the Texas Theatre,
possibly his prearranged meeting point,
Copy !req
3851. but though he has 14 dollars
in his pocket,
Copy !req
3852. he does not buy the
75-cent ticket.
Copy !req
3853. And Brewer has the cashier
call the police.
Copy !req
3854. - In response to the cashier's call,
Copy !req
3855. at least 30 officers in a fleet of
patrol cars
Copy !req
3856. descend on the movie theater.
Copy !req
3857. Now, this has to be the most remarkable
example of police intuition
Copy !req
3858. - since the Reichstag fire.
Copy !req
3859. - And I don't buy it. They knew.
Copy !req
3860. Someone knew Oswald was
going to be there.
Copy !req
3861. Brewer helpfully leads the cops
into the theater
Copy !req
3862. and from the stage points
Oswald out.
Copy !req
3863. There he is.
Copy !req
3864. Sir, can I get you to stand up,
please?
Copy !req
3865. - This is it!
Copy !req
3866. Kill the president, will you?
Copy !req
3867. I am not resisting arrest!
Copy !req
3868. I am not resisting arrest!
Copy !req
3869. The police have their man.
Copy !req
3870. It's already been decided...
Copy !req
3871. in Washington.
Copy !req
3872. By the time he is brought out
from the theater,
Copy !req
3873. a large crowd is waiting to scream
at him.
Copy !req
3874. Lee Oswald must've felt like Josef K
in Kafka's The Trial.
Copy !req
3875. He's never told the reasons
for his arrest,
Copy !req
3876. he doesn't know the unseen forces
ranging against him.
Copy !req
3877. By the time he reached police
headquarters,
Copy !req
3878. he is booked for murdering
Tippit.
Copy !req
3879. - No legal counsel is provided,
Copy !req
3880. no record made of
the long questioning.
Copy !req
3881. By the time the sun rises
the next morning,
Copy !req
3882. he is booked for murdering
the president.
Copy !req
3883. The whole country,
fueled by the media,
Copy !req
3884. assumes he is guilty.
Copy !req
3885. Under the guise of a patriotic
nightclub owner
Copy !req
3886. out to spare Jackie Kennedy
from having to testify at a trial,
Copy !req
3887. Jack Ruby is shown into an
underground garage
Copy !req
3888. by one of his inside men on the
Dallas police force,
Copy !req
3889. and when he is ready,
Lee Harvey Oswald
Copy !req
3890. - is brought out like a sacrificial lamb
Copy !req
3891. and nicely disposed of,
as an enemy of the people.
Copy !req
3892. Oswald!
Copy !req
3893. Who grieves
for Lee Harvey Oswald?
Copy !req
3894. Buried in a cheap grave under
the name "Oswald"?
Copy !req
3895. Nobody.
Copy !req
3896. Within minutes,
Copy !req
3897. false statements and press leaks about
Lee Oswald circulate the globe.
Copy !req
3898. The Official Legend is created and
the media takes it from there.
Copy !req
3899. The glitter of official lies
and the epic splendor
Copy !req
3900. of the thought-numbing
funeral of JFK
Copy !req
3901. confuse the eye and confound
the understanding.
Copy !req
3902. Hitler always said...
Copy !req
3903. "the bigger the lie,
the more people will believe it."
Copy !req
3904. Lee Harvey Oswald, a crazed, lonely man
who wanted attention
Copy !req
3905. and got it by killing a president,
was only the first
Copy !req
3906. in a long line of patsies.
Copy !req
3907. In later years,
Bobby Kennedy,
Copy !req
3908. Martin Luther King,
men whose
Copy !req
3909. commitment to change
and peace
Copy !req
3910. would make them dangerous to men who
are committed to war, would follow,
Copy !req
3911. also killed by such lonely,
crazed men,
Copy !req
3912. men who remove our guilt
by making murder
Copy !req
3913. a meaningless act of a loner.
Copy !req
3914. We have all become Hamlets
in our country,
Copy !req
3915. children of a slain
father-leader,
Copy !req
3916. whose killers still possess
the throne.
Copy !req
3917. The ghost of John F. Kennedy confronts us
with the secret murder
Copy !req
3918. at the heart of
the American dream.
Copy !req
3919. He forces on us the appalling
questions:
Copy !req
3920. Of what is our Constitution
made?
Copy !req
3921. What is our citizenship, and more,
our lives worth?
Copy !req
3922. What is the future of
a democracy,
Copy !req
3923. where a president can be
assassinated under
Copy !req
3924. conspicuously suspicious
circumstances,
Copy !req
3925. while the machinery of legal action
scarcely trembles?
Copy !req
3926. How many more political murders,
disguised as heart attacks,
Copy !req
3927. suicides,
Copy !req
3928. cancers,
drug overdoses,
Copy !req
3929. how many airplane
and car crashes will occur
Copy !req
3930. before they are exposed for
what they are?
Copy !req
3931. "Treason doth never prosper,”
wrote an English poet.
Copy !req
3932. What's the reason?
Copy !req
3933. Well, if it prosper,
none dare call it treason.
Copy !req
3934. The American public has yet to see
the Zapruder film.
Copy !req
3935. Why?
Copy !req
3936. The American public has yet to see
the real X-rays and photographs
Copy !req
3937. of the autopsy.
Copy !req
3938. Why?
Copy !req
3939. There are hundreds of documents that could
help prove this conspiracy.
Copy !req
3940. Why are they being withheld or burned
by the government?
Copy !req
3941. Each time my office, or you,
the people,
Copy !req
3942. have asked those questions,
demanded crucial evidence,
Copy !req
3943. the answer from on high
has always been
Copy !req
3944. "national security.”
Copy !req
3945. What kind of "national security”
do we have
Copy !req
3946. when we have been robbed of our
leaders?
Copy !req
3947. What "national security” permits
the removal
Copy !req
3948. of fundamental power from the hands of
the American people
Copy !req
3949. and validates the ascendancy of invisible
government in the United States?
Copy !req
3950. That kind of "national security,"
Copy !req
3951. gentlemen of the jury,
is when it smells like it,
Copy !req
3952. feels like it, and looks like it,
Copy !req
3953. you call it what it is.
Copy !req
3954. Fascism.
Copy !req
3955. I submit to you that what
took place
Copy !req
3956. on November 22nd, 1963
Copy !req
3957. was a coup d'état.
Copy !req
3958. Its most direct
and tragic result
Copy !req
3959. was a reversal of President Kennedy's
commitment to withdraw from Vietnam.
Copy !req
3960. A war is the biggest business in America,
worth 80 billion dollars a year.
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3961. President Kennedy was murdered
by a conspiracy
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3962. that was planned in advance at
the highest levels of our government,
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3963. and it was carried out by fanatical
and disciplined Cold Warriors
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3964. in the Pentagon and CIA's covert
operations apparatus,
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3965. among them
Clay Shaw here before you.
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3966. It was a public execution.
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3967. And it was covered up by
like-minded individuals
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3968. in the Dallas Police
Department,
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3969. the Secret Service,
the FBI,
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3970. - and the White House, all the way up to
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3971. including J. Edgar Hoover and
Lyndon Johnson,
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3972. whom I consider accomplices
after the fact.
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3973. The assassination reduced the president
to a transient official.
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3974. His job,
his assignment,
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3975. is to speak as often as possible of
this nation's desire for peace
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3976. while he acts as a business agent in
the Congress
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3977. for the military and their hardware
manufacturers.
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3978. Now, some people say
I'm crazy.
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3979. Southern caricature seeking
higher office.
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3980. Well, there is a simple way to determine
if I am paranoid.
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3981. Let's ask the two men who have profited
the most from the assassination:
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3982. your former president,
Lyndon Baines Johnson,
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3983. and your new president,
Richard Nixon,
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3984. to release the 51 CIA documents
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3985. pertaining to Lee Harvey Oswald
and Jack Ruby.
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3986. Or the secret CIA memo
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3987. on Oswald's activities in Russia
that was destroyed
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3988. while being photocopied.
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3989. All these documents are yours,
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3990. the people's property.
You pay for it.
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3991. But because the government considers you
children who might be too disturbed
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3992. or distressed to face this reality,
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3993. or because you might possibly
lynch those involved,
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3994. you cannot see these documents for
another 75 years.
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3995. I'm in my early 40s,
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3996. so I'll have shuffled off this
mortal coil by then,
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3997. but I'm already telling my
eight-year-old son
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3998. to keep himself
physically fit,
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3999. so that one glorious
September morning
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4000. in the year 2038,
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4001. he can walk into
the National Archives
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4002. and find out what the CIA
and the FBI knew!
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4003. They may even push it back,
then.
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4004. Hell, it may become a
generational affair,
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4005. with questions passed down
father to son,
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4006. mother to daughter.
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4007. That someday, somewhere
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4008. someone may find out
the damn truth.
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4009. We better.
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4010. We better, or we might,
just as well, build ourselves
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4011. another government...
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4012. like the Declaration
of Independence says to,
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4013. when the old one ain't
working, just--
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4014. just a little farther out West.
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4015. An American naturalist wrote:
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4016. "A patriot must always be ready to
defend his country...
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4017. against its government."
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4018. I would hate to be in your shoes
today.
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4019. You have a lot to think about.
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4020. You've seen much hidden evidence
the American public has never seen.
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4021. You know, going back to when
we were children,
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4022. I think that most of us in this courtroom
thought that
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4023. justice came into being
automatically,
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4024. that virtue was its own reward,
that--
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4025. that good would triumph
over evil.
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4026. But as we get older, we know this
just isn't true.
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4027. Individual human beings have to
create justice,
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4028. and this is not easy...
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4029. because the truth often poses
a threat to power,
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4030. and one often has to fight power at
great risk to themselves.
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4031. People like S. M. Holland,
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4032. Lee Bowers,
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4033. Jean Hill,
Willie O'Keefe.
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4034. They've all taken that risk.
They've all come forward.
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4035. I have here some 8,000 dollars in
these letters sent--
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4036. sent to my office from all over
the country.
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4037. Quarters, dimes, dollar bills from
housewives,
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4038. plumbers, car salesmen, teachers,
invalids.
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4039. These are people who cannot afford
to send money but do.
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4040. These are the ones
who drive the cabs,
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4041. who nurse in the hospitals,
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4042. who see their kids go
to Vietnam.
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4043. Why?
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4044. Because they care.
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4045. Because they want to know
the truth.
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4046. Because they
want their country back.
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4047. Because it still belongs
to us,
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4048. as long as the people have the guts to
fight for what they believe in.
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4049. The truth is the most important
value we have
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4050. because if the truth
does not endure,
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4051. if the government murders truth,
if it--
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4052. if we cannot respect the hearts of
these people, then this is
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4053. not the country in which I was born in,
and it is certainly not
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4054. the country that I want
to die in.
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4055. Tennyson wrote:
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4056. "Authority forgets a dying king."
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4057. This was never more true than for
John F. Kennedy,
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4058. whose murder was probably
one of the most terrible moments...
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4059. in the history of our country.
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4060. You the people, the jury system,
sitting in judgement on Clay Shaw,
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4061. represent the hope...
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4062. of humanity
against government power.
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4063. In discharging your duty,
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4064. in bringing the first conviction
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4065. in this house of cards
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4066. against Clay Shaw,
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4067. "Ask not what your country can do for you,
but what you can do for your country.”
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4068. Do not forget...
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4069. your dying king.
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4070. Show this world...
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4071. that this is still a government of
the people, for the people,
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4072. and by the people.
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4073. Nothing,
as long as you live,
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4074. will ever be more important.
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4075. It's up to you.
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4076. Has the jury reached a verdict?
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4077. Yes, we have, Your Honor.
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4078. Please hand the verdict to the clerk.
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4079. Will the defendant please rise?
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4080. The clerk will now read
the verdict.
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4081. New Orleans, Louisiana.
March 1st, 1969.
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4082. We, the jury, find the defendant,
Clay Shaw,
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4083. not guilty.
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4084. - Thank you, thank you.
- Wonderful.
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4085. Congratulations!
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4086. We're gonna go fishing
tomorrow!
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4087. We believe there was a conspiracy,
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4088. but whether Clay Shaw was a part of it
is another kettle of fish.
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4089. There's Jim! There's Jim!
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4090. Mr. Garrison, the American media
is reporting this
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4091. as a full vindication of the Warren
Commission.
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4092. Do you agree?
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4093. All I think it proves is you cannot
run an investigation,
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4094. in the light of day, even questioning
the intelligence operations
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4095. of the United States
government.
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4096. We understand that
the morning paper
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4097. will call for your resignation,
that you're unfit to hold office,
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4098. that you've ruined
Clay Shaw's reputation.
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4099. Mr. Garrison,
are you gonna resign?
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4100. Hell, no.
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4101. I'm gonna run again.
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4102. And I'm gonna win,
thank you.
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4103. Who do you plan to
persecute next, Mr. Garrison?
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4104. If it takes me 30 years to nail
every one of the assassins,
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4105. then I will continue this
investigation for 30 years.
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4106. I owe that not only to Jack Kennedy,
but to the country.
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4107. - Hey, there's Clay! There's Clay Shaw!
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4108. Mr. Shaw, how does it feel to be
acquitted?
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4109. It's been exhausting,
I must say.
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4110. What will you do now,
Mr. Shaw?
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4111. I should go home and cook
some étouffée.
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4112. Do you think Garrison
will be back for a second round?
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4113. I'm sure he will.
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