1. You did a wonderful job. Wonderful.
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2. You did it. You did it!
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3. To continue, you've listened to a long and
complex case, murder in the first degree.
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4. Premeditated murder is the most serious
charge tried in our criminal courts.
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5. You've listened to the testimony, had the
law interpreted as it applies in this case.
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6. It's now your duty to sit down and try
and separate the facts from the fancy.
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7. One man is dead.
Another man's life is at stake.
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8. If there's a reasonable doubt in your
minds as to the guilt of the accused -
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9. a reasonable doubt-then you must
bring me a verdict of not guilty.
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10. If there's no reasonable doubt,
then you must, in good conscience,
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11. find the accused guilty.
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12. However you decide,
your verdict must be unanimous.
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13. In the event that
you find the accused guilty,
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14. the bench will not entertain
a recommendation for mercy.
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15. The death sentence is mandatory
in this case.
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16. You are faced with a grave responsibility.
Thank you, gentlemen.
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17. The alternate jurors are excused.
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18. The jury will now retire.
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19. - Wanna piece of gum?
- No, thanks.
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20. This thing isn't movin'.
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21. - I'll give you a hand.
- That's it.
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22. You know somethin'? I called
the Weather Bureau this morning.
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23. This is gonna be
the hottest day of the year.
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24. You'd think they'd air-condition this place.
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25. - What is your name, sir?
- Oh, it's... that one. Yeah.
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26. Thank you very much.
OK, gentlemen. Everybody's here.
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27. Now, if there's anything you want,
I'll be right outside the door. Just knock.
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28. Good morning.
I never knew they locked the door.
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29. Sure they lock the door.
What'd you think?
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30. I don't know. It just never occurred to me.
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31. - What's that for?
- I thought we might wanna vote by ballot.
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32. Great idea. Maybe we can
get him elected senator.
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33. - How'd you like it?
- I don't know. It was pretty interesting.
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34. - Yeah? I almost fell asleep.
- I mean, I've never been on a jury before.
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35. No? I've sat on many juries.
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36. Those lawyers talk and talk, even when
it's an open-and-shut case like this one.
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37. - Ever hear so much talk about nothin'?
- I guess they're entitled.
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38. They're entitled. It's the system, but...
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39. if you ask me, I'd slap those tough kids
down before they start any trouble.
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40. It saves a lot of time and money.
Let's get started.
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41. Yeah. We've probably all
got things to do here.
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42. We can start with a five-minute break.
One gentleman is in the bathroom.
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43. Are... we gonna sit in order?
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44. Gee, I don't know. I guess so.
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45. - Buddy, you're in my seat.
- Oh, excuse me.
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46. That's all right.
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47. Hey, that's not a bad view, huh?
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48. What did you think of the case?
I mean, it had a lot of interest for me.
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49. No real... dead spots.
You know what I mean?
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50. We were lucky to get a murder case.
I figured us for an assault or burglary.
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51. Boy, they can be the dullest!
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52. - Hey, is that the Woolworth Building?
- That's right.
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53. Isn't that funny? I've lived here all my life.
I've never been inside it.
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54. If you had to sort out all that junk,
like that thing with the movies.
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55. Yeah. What about
that business with the knife?
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56. Asking grown-up people
to believe that kind of jazz.
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57. You expect that.
You know what we're dealing with.
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58. Yeah, I guess so.
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59. Well, your horn works.
Now try your lights.
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60. - You got a cold?
- And how. Hot-weather colds can kill you.
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61. I can hardly touch my nose.
Know what I mean?
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62. Sure do. I just got over one.
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63. - Oh, come on! Mr Foreman, let's go.
- The guy's still in the bathroom.
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64. What's new? I didn't get a chance
to see a paper this morning.
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65. I was only wondering
how the market closed.
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66. - You got a seat on the exchange?
- I'm a broker.
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67. I run a messenger service.
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68. The Beck and Call Company.
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69. The name is my wife's idea.
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70. Got 37 men workin'. Started with nothin'.
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71. OK, men. Let's take our seats, huh?
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72. We can all get out of here pretty quick.
I have tickets to that ball game tonight.
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73. Yanks and Cleveland. We've got
this kid Modjelewski in there.
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74. He's a real bull, this kid. You know...
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75. Real jug-handled. You know?
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76. You're a real baseball fan, aren't ya?
Where do we sit here?
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77. I thought we'd sit in order,
by jury numbers.
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78. One, two, three and so on around the
table, if that's OK with you gentlemen.
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79. - What's the difference?
- It's reasonable to sit in order.
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80. - Let it be.
- That's twelve. We go around one, two...
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81. What was your impression
of the prosecuting attorney?
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82. - I beg pardon?
- I thought he was really sharp,
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83. the way he handled all those points
one by one, in logical sequence.
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84. - I was very impressed.
- I think he... he did an expert job.
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85. A lot of drive, too. You know? Real drive.
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86. OK, fellas. Can we
hold it down a minute? Fellas?
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87. Say, we'd like to get started.
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88. Gentleman at the window.
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89. - We'd like to get started.
- Oh, I'm sorry.
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90. - The kid kills his father, just like that.
- Listen, it happens all the time.
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91. They let those kids run wild up there.
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92. Well, maybe it serves him right.
You know what I mean?
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93. - Is everyone here?
- The old man is inside.
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94. - Would you knock on the door for him?
- Yeah.
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95. - Are you a Yankee fan?
- No, Baltimore.
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96. Baltimore?
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97. That's like being hit in the head
with a crowbar once a day.
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98. Who have they got? Who have they got
besides good groundkeepers?
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99. - Say, we'd like to get started.
- Forgive me, gentlemen.
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100. - I didn't mean to keep you waiting.
- Baltimore?
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101. OK, if I can have your attention. You fellas
can handle this thing any way you want.
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102. I'm... you know,
I'm not gonna make any rules.
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103. We can, well, discuss it first, then vote
on it. That's, of course... that's one way.
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104. And, well, we can vote on it right now.
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105. I think it's customary
to take a preliminary vote.
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106. Yeah, let's vote. Who knows?
Maybe we can all get outta here.
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107. OK. Then I think that you know that we
have a first-degree murder charge here,
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108. and if we vote the accused guilty,
we've got to send him to the chair.
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109. Um... That's mandatory.
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110. - I think we know that.
- Yeah, let's see who's where.
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111. - OK. Anyone doesn't wanna vote?
- It's fine with me.
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112. OK, then, just remember that this
has to be twelve to nothing, either way.
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113. That's the law. OK, are we ready?
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114. All those voting guilty,
please raise your hands.
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115. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven...
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116. eight, nine, ten, eleven.
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117. OK, that's eleven guilty.
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118. Those voting not guilty?
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119. One. Right.
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120. Eleven guilty, one not guilty.
Well, now we know where we are.
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121. Boy, oh boy! There's always one.
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122. So, what do we do now?
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123. - I guess we talk.
- Boy, oh boy!
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124. You really think he's innocent?
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125. - I don't know.
- You sat in court with the rest of us.
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126. You heard what we did.
The kid's a dangerous killer.
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127. - He's 18 years old.
- Well, that's old enough.
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128. He stabbed his own father
four inches into the chest.
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129. They proved it
a dozen different ways in court.
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130. - Would you like me to list 'em for you?
- No.
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131. - Then what do you want?
- I just want to talk.
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132. What's there to talk about?
Eleven of us think he's guilty.
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133. No one had to think about it twice
except you.
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134. I want to ask you something.
Do you believe his story?
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135. - I don't know. Maybe I don't.
- So how come you voted not guilty?
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136. There were eleven votes for guilty.
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137. It's not easy to raise my hand and send a
boy off to die without talking about it first.
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138. - Well, now, who says it's easy?
- No one.
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139. What? Just because I voted fast?
I honestly think the guy is guilty.
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140. Couldn't change my mind
if you talked for 100 years.
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141. I'm not trying to change your mind.
It's just that...
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142. This is somebody's life.
We can't decide in five minutes.
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143. - Supposing we're wrong?
- Supposing this building fell on my head?
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144. - You can suppose anything.
- That's right.
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145. What's the difference how long it takes?
Supposin' we take five minutes? So what?
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146. Let's take an hour. The ball game
doesn't start till eight o'clock.
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147. - Who's got something to say?
- I'm willing to sit for an hour.
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148. - Great. I heard a good story last night...
- That's not why we're sitting here.
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149. All right, then you tell me.
What are we sitting here for?
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150. I don't know. Maybe no reason.
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151. Look, this kid's been
kicked around all of his life.
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152. You know, born in a slum,
mother dead since he was nine.
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153. He lived for a year and a half
in an orphanage
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154. when his father was serving
a jail term for forgery.
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155. That's not a very happy beginning.
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156. He's a wild, angry kid. That's all
he's ever been. And you know why?
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157. Cos he's been hit on the head
by somebody once a day, every day.
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158. He's had a pretty miserable 18 years.
I think we owe him a few words, that's all.
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159. I don't mind telling you this, mister. We
don't owe him a thing. He got a fair trial.
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160. What do you think that trial cost?
He's lucky he got it. Know what I mean?
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161. Look, we're all grown-ups in here.
We heard the facts, didn't we?
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162. You're not gonna tell me we're supposed
to believe this kid, knowing what he is.
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163. I've lived among them all my life.
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164. You can't believe a word they say.
You know that. I mean, they're born liars.
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165. - Only an ignorant man can believe that.
- Now, listen...
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166. Do you think you were born
with a monopoly on the truth?
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167. Certain things should be
pointed out to this man.
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168. - It's not Sunday. We don't need a sermon.
- We have a job to do. Now let's do it.
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169. Rice Pops. It's a product
I work on at the agency.
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170. "The breakfast with the built-in bounce."
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171. - I wrote that line.
- Very catchy.
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172. - Say, do you mind?
- I'm sorry. I have this habit of doodling.
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173. - It keeps me thinking clearly.
- We have work to do.
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174. There's no point
staying here for ever. OK.
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175. Perhaps if the gentleman down there who
is disagreeing with us could tell us why.
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176. Tell us what you're thinking. We might be
able to show you where you're mixed up.
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177. Maybe this is an idea. It seems to me that
it's up to us to convince this gentleman
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178. that he's wrong and we're right. Maybe if
we each took a couple of minutes just to...
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179. - Well, it was just a quick idea.
- No, no, no. That's a good one.
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180. Supposing we go once around the table?
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181. I guess you're first.
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182. It's hard to put into words.
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183. I just think he's guilty.
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184. I thought it was obvious from the word go.
Nobody proved otherwise.
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185. Nobody has to prove otherwise.
The burden of proof's on the prosecution.
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186. The defendant doesn't even have to open
his mouth. That's in the Constitution.
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187. Sure, I know that. What I meant was...
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188. Well... I just think he's guilty.
I mean, somebody saw him do it.
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189. OK. Here's what I think. And I have
no personal feelings about this.
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190. I just wanna talk about facts.
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191. Number one.
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192. The old man lived downstairs under
the room where the killing took place.
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193. At 10 minutes after 12 on the night
of the killing, he heard loud noises.
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194. Said it sounded like a fight.
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195. And he heard the kid yell out
"I'm gonna kill ya."
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196. A second later,
he heard a body hit the floor.
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197. Ran to the door, opened it up, saw the kid
run down the stairs and out of the house.
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198. Called the police. They found the old man
with the knife in his chest.
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199. The coroner fixed the time of death
around midnight.
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200. Now, these are facts.
You can't refute facts. The kid is guilty.
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201. I'm just as sentimental as the next fella.
I know he's only 18.
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202. - But he's still gotta pay for what he did.
- I'm with you.
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203. - OK. Are you finished?
- Yeah.
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204. It is obvious to me that
the boy's entire story was flimsy.
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205. He claimed he was at the movies,
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206. yet he couldn't remember the names
of the films he saw or who played in them.
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207. - That's right.
- And no one saw him at the theatre.
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208. And the woman across the street-if her
testimony don't prove it, nothing does.
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209. - That's right. She actually saw the killing.
- Fellas, please. Let's go in order.
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210. Just a minute. Here's a woman...
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211. Here's a woman who's lying in bed.
She can't sleep. She's dyin' with the heat.
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212. She looks out the window,
and right across the street
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213. she sees the kid stick the knife
into his father.
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214. The time is 12.10 on the nose.
Everything fits.
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215. She's known the kid all his life.
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216. His window is opposite hers across the
el tracks. She swore she saw him do it.
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217. Through the windows
of a passing el train.
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218. This el train had no passengers on it.
It was just being moved downtown.
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219. The lights were out,
and they proved in court that at night
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220. you can look through the windows and
see what's happening on the other side.
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221. - They proved it.
- I'd like to ask you something.
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222. You don't believe the boy.
How come you believe the woman?
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223. She's one of "them" too, isn't she?
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224. - You're a pretty smart fella, aren't ya?
- OK, gentlemen. Now, gentlemen.
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225. - Come on, sit down. Sit down.
- What's he so wise about? I'm telling ya...
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226. Come on. Now we're not gonna
get anywhere fighting.
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227. - Whose turn is it next?
- Oh, his. Number five.
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228. May I... Can I pass?
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229. Well... That's your privilege.
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230. How about the next gentleman?
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231. Oh. Well... I don't know.
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232. I started to be convinced,
you know, very early in the case.
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233. You see, I was looking for a motive.
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234. That's very important because if you don't
have a motive, where's your case, right?
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235. Anyway, that testimony from those people
across the hall from the kid's apartment,
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236. that was very powerful. Didn't they say
something about a fight, an argument,
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237. between the old man and his son
around about seven o'clock that night?
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238. - I could be wrong but...
- It was eight o'clock, not seven.
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239. They heard an argument. Then
they heard the father hit the boy twice.
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240. Finally they saw the boy run, angry,
out of the house. What does that prove?
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241. It don't prove anything.
It's just part of the picture.
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242. You said it provided a motive.
So did the prosecution.
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243. That wasn't a very strong motive.
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244. This boy has been hit so many times
that violence is practically...
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245. It's a normal state of affairs with him.
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246. I just can't see two slaps in the face
provoking him into committing murder.
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247. It may have been two too many.
Everyone has a breaking point.
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248. Anything else?
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249. - No.
- OK. How about you?
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250. I don't know. It's all been said.
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251. You can talk here for ever.
It's still the same thing.
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252. This kid is five for 0.
Well, look at his record.
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253. When he was 10, he was in children's
He threw a rock at a teacher.
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254. When he was 15, he was
in reform school: He stole a car.
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255. He's been arrested for muggin'.
He was picked up twice for knife fightin'.
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256. They say he's real handy with a knife.
Oh, this is a very fine boy.
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257. Ever since he was five, his father
beat him up regularly. He used his fists.
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258. So would I. A kid like that?
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259. It's these kids -
the way they are nowadays.
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260. When I was a kid,
I used to call my father "sir".
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261. That's right. Ever hear a kid
call his father that any more?
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262. Fathers don't seem to think
it's important any more.
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263. - You got any kids?
- Three.
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264. I got one.
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265. He's 22 years old.
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266. When he was nine years old,
he ran away from a fight.
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267. I saw it. I was so embarrassed,
I almost threw up.
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268. I said "I'm gonna make a man out of you
if I have to break you in two tryin'."
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269. Well, I made a man out of him.
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270. When he was 16, we had a fight.
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271. Hit me in the jaw. He was a big kid.
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272. I haven't seen him for two years.
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273. Kids.
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274. You work your heart out...
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275. - Well, let's get goin'.
- I think we're missing the point.
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276. This boy's the product of a broken home
and a filthy neighbourhood.
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277. We can't help that. We're here
to decide his innocence or guilt,
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278. not to go into the reasons
why he grew up the way he did.
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279. He was born in a slum.
Slums are breeding grounds for criminals.
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280. It's no secret that children from slums
are potential menaces to society. I think...
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281. You can say that again. The kids who
crawl out of these places are real trash.
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282. - I don't want any part of them.
- Listen, I... I've lived in a slum all my life.
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283. - Wait a minute.
- Please. I...
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284. I've played in back yards
that were filled with garbage.
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285. - Maybe you can still smell it on me.
- Listen, sonny...
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286. Come on, now. There's nothing personal.
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287. Come on, fella. He didn't mean you.
Let's not be so sensitive.
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288. This sensitivity I can understand.
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289. OK, look. Let's stop the arguing.
We're only wasting time.
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290. Your turn down there. Let's go.
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291. I didn't expect a turn. I thought
you were all gonna to try to convince me.
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292. - That was the idea.
- I forgot. He's right.
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293. He's the one keeping us in here.
Let's hear what he's got to say.
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294. Wait. We decided to do this a certain way.
I think we ought to stick to it.
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295. Oh, stop being a kid, will ya?
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296. - What do you mean, a kid?
- What do you think I mean? K- Kid.
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297. Just because I'm trying
to keep this organised?
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298. Here, you take on the responsibility.
I'll just keep my mouth shut.
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299. - Why are you gettin' so hot? Calm down.
- Don't tell me to calm down.
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300. You want to take the chair?
Take the chair.
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301. Did you ever see such a thing?
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302. - You think it's funny?
- Forget it, fella. It's unimportant.
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303. Unimportant? Here, you try it.
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304. Nobody wants to change.
You're doing a beautiful job.
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305. Yeah, you're doin' great. Just great, fella.
You stay in there and pitch.
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306. All right, let's hear from somebody.
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307. Well, if you want me to tell you
how I feel about it, it's all right with me.
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308. - Boy, I don't care what you do.
- All right. I don't have anything brilliant.
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309. I only know as much as you do.
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310. According to the testimony,
the boy looks guilty. Maybe he is.
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311. I sat there in court for six days
listening while the evidence built up.
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312. Everybody sounded so positive.
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313. I began to get a peculiar feeling about
this trial. I mean, nothing is that positive.
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314. There are questions I'd have liked to ask.
Maybe they wouldn't mean anything but...
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315. I felt that the defence wasn't conducting
a thorough enough cross-examination.
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316. He let too many things go by-little things.
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317. What little things?
When they don't ask questions,
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318. it's because they know
the answers already.
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319. It's also possible for a lawyer to be just
plain stupid, isn't it? I mean, it's possible.
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320. You sound like you met
my brother-in-law once.
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321. I kept putting myself in the kid's place.
I'd have asked for another lawyer, I think.
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322. I mean, if I was on trial for my life,
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323. I'd want my lawyer to tear the prosecution
witnesses to shreds, or at least try to.
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324. Look, there was one alleged
eyewitness to this killing.
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325. Someone else claims he heard the killing,
saw the boy run out after,
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326. and there was circumstantial evidence.
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327. But those two witnesses
were the entire case for the prosecution.
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328. Supposing they're wrong?
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329. What do you mean? What's the point
of having witnesses at all?
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330. - Could they be wrong?
- Those people were under oath.
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331. They're only people. People
make mistakes. Could they be wrong?
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332. - Well, no. I don't think so.
- Do you know so?
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333. Nobody can know a thing like that.
This isn't an exact science.
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334. That's right, it isn't.
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336. What about the switch knife
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337. Some people haven't talked yet.
Shouldn't we go in order?
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338. They'll get a chance to talk.
Be quiet a second, will ya?
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339. What about the knife this fine, upright boy
admitted buying the night of the killing?
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340. - Let's talk about it.
- All right. Let's get it in here and look at it.
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341. - I'd like to see it again. Mr Foreman?
- Why do we have to see it again?
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342. The gentleman has a right
to see exhibits in evidence.
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343. - Say, could you bring us the knife?
- The knife? Sure.
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344. The knife and the way it was bought
is strong evidence, don't you think?
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345. - I do.
- Good. Let's take the facts one at a time.
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346. The boy admitted leaving the house
at eight o'clock at night
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347. after being slapped by his father.
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348. No, he didn't say "slapped".
He said "punched". There's a difference.
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349. After being hit several times by his father.
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350. He went directly to a local junk shop
where he bought one of those...
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351. - Switch knives.
- Switchblade knives.
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352. This wasn't an ordinary knife. It had
a very unusual carved handle and blade.
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353. The storekeeper said it was the only one
of its kind he had ever had in stock.
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354. He met some friends of his in front
of a tavern about 8.45. Am I right so far?
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355. - Yes, you are.
- You bet he is.
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356. He talked with his friends
for an hour, leaving them at 9.45.
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357. During this time,
they saw the switch knife.
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358. They identified the death weapon
in court as that very same knife.
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359. He arrived home
at about ten o'clock.
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360. This is where the stories offered
by the State and the boy diverge slightly.
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361. He claims that he went to a movie
at about 11.30,
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362. returning home at 3.10 to find
his father dead and himself arrested.
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363. He also claims that the two detectives
threw him down a half a flight of stairs.
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364. What happened to the knife? He claims
it fell through a hole in his pocket
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365. on the way to the movies,
sometime between 11.30 and 3.10,
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366. and that he never saw it again.
Now, there is a tale, gentlemen.
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367. I think it's clear the boy
never went to the movies that night.
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368. No one in the house saw him go out.
No one at the theatre identified him.
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369. He couldn't even remember
the names of the pictures he saw.
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370. What actually happened is this.
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371. The boy stayed home,
had another fight with his father,
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372. stabbed him to death and left the house
at 10 minutes after 12.
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373. He even wiped the knife
clean of fingerprints.
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374. Are you trying to tell me that this knife
fell through a hole in the boy's pocket,
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375. someone picked it up,
went to the boy's house
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376. and stabbed his father with it
just to test its sharpness?
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377. No, but it's possib/e the boy lost his knife
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378. and somebody else stabbed his father
with a similar knife.
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379. Take a look at this knife.
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380. It's a very unusual knife.
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381. I've never seen one like it. Neither had
the storekeeper who sold it to the boy.
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382. Aren't you asking us to accept
an incredible coincidence?
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383. - I'm just saying a coincidence is possible.
- And I say it's not possible.
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384. Where did that come from?
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385. - It's the same knife!
- What do you think you're doin'?
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386. - Where did you get it?
- I went out walking last night.
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387. Through the boy's neighbourhood.
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388. I bought that at a pawn shop two blocks
from the boy's house. It cost six dollars.
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389. It's against the law
to buy or sell switchblade knives.
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390. - That's right. I broke the law.
- You pulled a real bright trick.
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391. Now supposing you tell me what it proves.
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392. - Maybe there are ten knives like that.
- Maybe there are!
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393. What does it mean? You found a knife like
it. What's that? The discovery of the age?
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394. You think somebody else did the stabbing
with exactly the same kind of knife?
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395. - The odds are a million to one.
- It's possible!
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396. - But not very probable.
- OK, fellas. Let's take our seats.
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397. There's no point standing around
all over the place.
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398. It's interesting that he'd find a knife
exactly like the boy's.
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399. - What's interesting about it? Interesting!
- I just thought it was interesting.
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400. Eleven of us still think he's guilty.
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401. Right. You're not gonna
change anybody's mind.
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402. If you wanna hang this jury, go ahead.
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403. The kid'll be tried again
and found guilty, as sure as he's born.
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404. You're probably right.
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405. So, what are you gonna do?
We can be here all night.
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406. It's only one night. A boy may die.
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407. Well, why don't we just
set up house here?
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408. Someone send for a pinochle deck
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409. and we'll just sweat
the whole thing out right here.
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410. - I don't think he oughta joke about it.
- What do you want me to do about it?
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411. I don't see what the knife
has got to do with anything.
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412. Somebody saw the kid stab his father.
What more do we need?
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413. You guys can talk the ears
right off my head.
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414. I got three garages going to pot.
So let's get done and get outta here.
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415. The knife was important to the
district attorney. He spent a day...
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416. He's a 15th assistant or something.
What does he know?
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417. Let's hold it down. These side arguments
are only slowin' us up.
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418. - Well, what about it?
- You're the only one.
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419. I have a proposition to make to all of you.
I'm going to call for another vote.
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420. I want you eleven men to...
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421. vote by secret written ballot.
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422. I'll abstain. If there are eleven votes
for guilty, I won't stand alone.
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423. We'll take in a guilty verdict
to the judge right now.
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424. But if anyone votes not guilty,
we'll stay here and talk it out.
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425. - That's it. If you want to try it, I'm ready.
- All right. Let's do it the hard way.
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426. That sounds fair. Everyone agreed?
Anyone doesn't agree?
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427. OK, pass these along.
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428. Guilty.
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429. Guilty.
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430. Guilty.
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431. Guilty.
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432. Guilty.
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433. Guilty.
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434. Guilty.
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435. Guilty.
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436. Guilty.
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437. Not guilty.
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438. Guilty.
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439. - Boy, how do you like that?
- And another chap flips his wings!
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440. All right. Who was it?
Come on, I wanna know.
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441. Excuse me. This was a secret ballot.
We all agreed on that, no?
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442. If the gentleman
wants it to remain secret...
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443. Secret? What do you mean? There are no
secrets in a jury room. I know who it was.
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444. Brother, you really are somethin'.
You vote guilty like the rest of us,
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445. then some golden-voiced preacher
tears your heart out -
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446. some underprivileged kid
couldn't help becoming a murderer -
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447. and you change your vote.
If that isn't the most sickening...
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448. Why don't you drop a quarter
in his collection box?
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449. Oh, now just wait a... Listen, you can't talk
to me like that. Who do you think you are?
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450. Calm down, calm down. It doesn't matter.
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451. - He's very excitable. Sit down.
- Excitable? You bet I'm excitable!
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452. We're tryin' to put a guilty man
in the chair, where he belongs.
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453. Someone starts tellin' us
fairy tales and we're listenin'!
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454. - What made you change your vote?
- He didn't change his vote. I did.
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455. - Oh, fine.
- I knew it.
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456. - Would you like me to tell you why?
- No, I wouldn't like you to tell me why.
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457. - I'd like to anyway, if you don't mind.
- Do we have to listen to this?
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458. - The man wants to talk.
- Thank you.
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459. This gentleman has been
standing alone against us.
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460. He doesn't say the boy is not guilty.
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461. He just isn't sure. It's not easy to stand
alone against the ridicule of others.
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462. So he gambled for support and I gave it
to him. I respect his motives.
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463. The boy on trial is probably guilty,
but... I want to hear more.
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464. The vote is ten to two. I'm talking!
You have no right to leave this room!
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465. He can't hear you. He never will.
Let's sit down.
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466. - Shall we continue?
- Well, I think we ought to take a break.
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467. You know, one man's inside and
I think we ought to wait for him.
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468. Looks like we're really
hung up here, huh?
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469. I mean, that thing with the old man,
that was pretty unexpected.
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470. Wish I could figure out some way
we could break it up.
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471. You know, in advertising...
I told you I worked in an agency?
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472. Some pretty strange people work there.
Well, not strange, really.
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473. I guess it's just they have peculiar ways
of expressing themselves.
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474. I suppose it's the same
in your business too, huh?
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475. - What do you do?
- I'm a watchmaker.
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476. Really? I imagine the finest watchmakers
in the world come from Europe.
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477. Anyway, in an agency,
when we reach a point like this...
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478. I'm telling him, in an ad agency when
a point like this is reached in a meeting,
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479. there's always some character
ready with an idea, see.
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480. It kills me. It's the weirdest thing,
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481. the way they sometimes precede
their idea with a phrase.
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482. Like, some account exec
will get up and he'll say:
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483. "OK, here's an idea. Let's... run it up
the flagpole and see if anyone salutes it."
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484. I mean, it's idiotic, but it's funny.
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485. I... got a little excited back there.
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486. I... didn't mean to get nasty.
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487. Glad you're not one of those who lets
these emotional appeals influence him.
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488. I don't know what's the matter
with that fan.
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489. - Are you a salesman?
- I'm an architect.
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490. You know what the soft sell is?
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491. Well, you've got it, believe me.
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492. I've got a different technique.
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493. Laughs, drinks, jokes, tricks. You know?
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494. Yeah.
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495. Hit 'em where they live-that's my motto.
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496. I made 27 grand last year
sellin' marmalade.
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497. That's not bad. I mean, you know,
considerin' marmalade.
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498. What are you gettin' out of this? Kicks?
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499. Or did somebody bump you on the head
once and you haven't gotten over it?
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500. - Maybe.
- You know, you do-gooders are all alike.
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501. You're always blowin' your stacks
over some guy that fanned.
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502. But what are you wastin' our time for?
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503. Why don't you donate five dollars to the
cause? Maybe it'll make you feel better.
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504. This kid is guilty, pal.
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505. It's as plain as the nose on your face. So
why don't we stop wastin' our time here?
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506. We're gonna all get sore throats
if we keep it up.
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507. What difference does it make
if you get it here or at the ball game?
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508. No difference, pal.
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509. No difference at all.
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510. - Nice bunch of guys, huh?
- They're about the same as anyone else.
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511. Boy, what a murderous day.
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512. - Do you think we'll be much longer?
- I don't know.
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513. He's guilty for sure.
Not a doubt in the whole world.
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514. We should've...
We should've been done already.
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515. Oh, I don't mind, you know.
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516. Beats workin'.
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517. - You think he's not guilty, huh?
- I don't know. It's possible.
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518. Well, I don't know you, but I'm bettin'
you've never been wronger in your life.
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519. You're wastin' your time.
You ought to wrap it up.
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520. Supposing you were the one
who was on trial?
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521. Well, I'm not used to supposin'.
I'm just a workin' man.
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522. My boss does the supposin'. But...
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523. I'll try one.
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524. Supposin' you talk us all out of this and...
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525. the kid really did knife his father, huh?
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526. Are you ready?
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527. Sorry, blue eyes.
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528. - Well, where else?
- OK, fellas. Let's take our seats.
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529. - Looks like we'll be here for dinner.
- OK, now let's get down to business.
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530. - Who wants to start?
- I will.
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531. - OK, go.
- You, down there.
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532. The old man who lived downstairs says
he heard the kid yell "I'm gonna kill ya."
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533. A second later,
he heard the body hit the floor.
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534. He ran to the door and saw the kid run out
of the house. What's that mean to you?
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535. I wonder how clearly he heard
the boy's voice through the ceiling.
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536. He didn't. The window was open. So was
the one upstairs. It was a hot night.
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537. It was another apartment.
It's not easy to identify a shouting voice.
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538. He identified it in court.
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539. The lady across the street looked right in
the open window and saw the stabbing.
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540. - Isn't that enough for you?
- No, it isn't.
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541. Boy, how do you like this guy?
It's like talkin' into a dead phone.
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542. She said she saw it through
the windows of a moving el train.
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543. There were six cars on the train.
She saw it through the last two.
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544. She remembered insignificant details.
How can you argue with that?
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545. Has anybody here any idea
how long it would take an el...
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546. This isn't a game.
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547. Did you see him?
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548. The nerve! The absolute nerve!
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549. - Forget it. It's not important.
- This isn't a game?
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550. - Who does he think he is?
- Forget it now.
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551. Any idea how long it takes an el train
at medium speed to pass a given point?
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552. - What has that to do with it?
- Guess.
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553. - I wouldn't have any idea.
- What do you think?
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554. - I don't know. Ten, twelve seconds?
- A pretty good guess. Anyone else?
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555. - Sounds right to me.
- What's the guessing game for?
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556. - What do you say?
- Ten seconds.
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557. - All right. What are you getting at?
- This.
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558. It takes a six-car el train
ten seconds to pass a given point.
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559. Say the given point is the open window
of the room where the killing took place.
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560. You can reach out
and almost touch the el tracks, right?
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561. Now let me ask you this. Has anyone
here ever lived near the el tracks?
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562. I just finished painting an apartment that
overlooked an el line. It took three days.
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563. - What was it like? Noisy?
- Oh, brother! No matter. We were punchy.
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564. I lived in an apartment
near the el line once.
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565. When the window's open,
the train noise is almost unbearable.
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566. - You can hardly hear yourself think.
- Will you get to the point?
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567. I will. Now, let's take two pieces of
testimony and try to put them together.
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568. The old man
in the apartment downstairs.
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569. He says he heard the boy say
"I'm gonna kill you",
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570. and a split second later
heard a body hit the floor.
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571. - One second later.
- Right.
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572. The woman across the street
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573. swore positively she looked
out of the window and saw the killing
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574. through the last two cars
of a passing el train-the last two cars.
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575. - What are you givin' us here?
- Now, just a minute.
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576. We've agreed that it takes ten seconds
for a train to pass a given point.
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577. Since the woman saw the killing
through the last two cars,
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578. we can assume that the body hit
the floor just as the train went by.
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579. Therefore, the train had been
roaring by the old man's window
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580. a full ten seconds
before the body hit the floor.
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581. The old man - "I'm gonna kill you",
body hitting the floor a second later -
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582. would have had to hear the boy's words
with the el roaring past his nose!
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583. - It's not possible he heard it.
- Of course he heard it.
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584. - Do you think so?
- He said he yelled at the top of his voice.
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585. He couldn't have identified the voice
with the el roaring by.
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586. It was a matter of seconds!
Nobody can be that accurate.
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587. Testimony that could put a boy into the
electric chair shou/d be that accurate.
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588. - I don't think he could have heard it.
- Maybe he didn't, with all that el noise.
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589. - What are you people talkin' about?
- It stands to reason he couldn't have.
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590. - Why lie? What's he got to gain?
- Attention, maybe.
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591. You keep comin' in with bright sayings.
Send 'em to a paper! They pay $3 apiece!
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592. What are you talkin' to him like that for?
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593. A guy who talks like that to an old man
really oughta get stepped on.
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594. You oughta have more respect, mister.
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595. You say stuff like that to him again...
I'm gonna lay you out.
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596. You go ahead. You say anything you like.
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597. Why do you think the old man might lie?
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598. It was just that I looked at him
for a very long time.
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599. The seam of his jacket was split,
under the shoulder.
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600. Did you notice that?
I mean, to come into court like that.
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601. He was a very old man in a torn jacket.
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602. And he walked very slowly to the stand.
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603. He was dragging his left leg
and trying to hide it,
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604. because he was ashamed.
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605. I think I know this man
better than anyone here.
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606. This is a quiet, frightened,
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607. insignificant old man who...
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608. who has been nothing all his life.
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609. Who has never had recognition
or his name in the newspapers.
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610. Nobody knows him. Nobody quotes him.
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611. Nobody seeks his advice after 75 years.
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612. Gentlemen, that's a very sad thing -
to mean nothing.
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613. A man like this needs to be quoted,
to be listened to.
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614. To be quoted just once -
very important to him.
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615. It would be so hard for him
to recede into the background.
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616. Wait a minute. Are you tellin' us he'd lie
just so he could be important once?
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617. No. He wouldn't really lie.
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618. But perhaps he made himself believe
he heard those words
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619. and recognised the boy's face.
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620. That's the most fantastic story ever.
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621. How can you make up a thing like that?
What do you know about it?
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622. - Does anybody want a cough drop?
- I'll take one.
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623. I still don't see how anybody
can think he's not guilty.
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624. There's something else I'd like
to talk about for a minute. Thanks.
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625. We've proved the old man couldn't have
heard the boy say "I'm gonna kill you."
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626. - You didn't prove it at all!
- Wait. Supposing he really did hear it?
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627. This phrase, how many times have
all of us used it? Probably thousands.
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628. "I could kill you for that."Junior, do that
again and I'll kill you."Rocky, kill him."
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629. - It doesn't mean we'd really kill anybody.
- The phrase was: "I'm gonna kill you."
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630. The kid yelled it at the top of his lungs.
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631. Don't tell me he didn't mean it.
Anybody says it like that, they mean it!
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632. Gee, I don't know.
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633. I was arguing with the guy I work next to
at the bank a few weeks ago.
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634. He called me an idiot, so I yelled at him.
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635. This guy is trying to make you
believe what isn't so!
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636. The kid said he'd kill him and he did!
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637. Do you really think the boy'd shout it out
so the whole neighbourhood could hear?
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638. - He's much too bright for that.
- Bright? He's a common, ignorant slob.
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639. He don't even speak good English.
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640. He doesn't even speak good English.
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641. Mr Foreman, I'd like to
change my vote to not guilty.
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642. - You what?
- You heard me.
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643. - Are you sure?
- Yeah, I'm sure.
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644. The vote is nine to three
in favour of guilty.
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645. Well, if this isn't the livin' end!
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646. What are you basin' it on?
Stories this guy made up?
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647. You oughta write for one of those kooky
detective magazines, make a fortune.
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648. For cryin' out loud, the kid's own lawyer
knew he didn't stand a chance.
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649. Right from the beginning, his own
lawyer knew, and you could see it.
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650. Boy, oh boy, I'm telling ya.
This guy here is really somethin'.
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651. The kid had a lawyer, didn't he?
He presented his case, not you.
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652. - How come you say so much?
- Lawyers aren't infallible.
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653. - Baltimore, please.
- He was court-appointed.
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654. - What's that supposed to mean?
- A lot.
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655. He didn't want the case
or he resented being appointed.
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656. It's the kind of case that brings no money,
no glory, not much chance of winning.
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657. That's not a very promising
situation for a young lawyer.
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658. He'd really have to believe in his client to
put up a good case. Obviously he didn't.
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659. Of course he didn't.
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660. Who the heck could?
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661. Except maybe some guy's mother
or somebody.
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662. Oh, look.
Will you look at the time? Come on.
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663. Pardon me. I have made some notes here,
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664. and I would like, please,
to say something.
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665. I have been listening very carefully and...
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666. it seems to me that this man
has some very good points to make.
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667. From what was presented at the trial,
the boy looks guilty, on the surface.
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668. - But maybe if we go deeper...
- Come on, will ya?
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670. Let us assume that the boy
really did commit the murder.
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671. Now, this happened
at 10 minutes after 12.
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672. Now, how was he caught by the police?
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673. He came back home...
at three o'clock or so,
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674. and he was captured by two detectives
in the hallway of his house.
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675. Now, my question is:
If he really had killed his father,
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676. why would he come back home
three hours later?
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677. Wouldn't he be afraid of being caught?
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678. He came home for his knife. It's not nice
to leave knives in people's chests.
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679. Yeah, especially relatives'.
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680. I don't see anything funny about it.
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681. The boy knew the knife
could be identified.
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682. - He had to get it before the police did.
- If he knew the knife could be identified,
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683. why did he leave it there in the first place?
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684. I think we can assume the boy ran out in a
state of panic, having just killed his father.
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685. He calmed down and realised
he'd left his knife there.
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686. This, then, depends
on your definition of panic.
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687. He would have had to be calm enough to
wipe off any fingerprints left on the knife.
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688. Now, where did this panic start
and where did it end?
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689. You voted guilty. What side are you on?
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690. I don't believe I have to be loyal
to one side or the other.
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691. - I'm simply asking questions.
- This is just off the top of my head but...
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692. If I'd done the stabbing, I'd take a chance
and go back for the knife.
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693. I'll bet he figured
nobody'd seen him running out
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694. and the body wouldn't be discovered
till the next day.
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695. After all, it was the middle of the night.
He figured it'd be found the next day.
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696. Pardon. This is my whole point.
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697. The woman across the street testified
that the moment after she saw the killing,
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698. that is, a moment after the train went by,
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699. she screamed, and then went
to telephone the police.
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700. Now, the boy certainly
must have heard the scream.
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701. So he knew that
somebody saw something.
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702. I just don't think
that he would have gone back.
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703. Two things. He may not have heard
the scream. Perhaps it wasn't very loud.
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704. If he did, he may not
have connected it with his own acts.
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705. He lived in a neighbourhood
where screams were commonplace.
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706. - There's your answer.
- Maybe. Maybe the boy did kill his father.
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707. Didn't hear the scream,
did run out in a panic,
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708. calmed down later and came back for the
knife, risking being caught by the police.
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709. Maybe those things happened,
but maybe they didn't.
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710. There's enough doubt to wonder if he was
there at all at the time of the killing.
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711. What do you mean? Didn't the old man
see him running out of the house?
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712. He's twisting the facts.
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713. Did or didn't the old man see the kid
running out of the house at 12.10?
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714. - Well, did or didn't he?
- He says he did.
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715. Says he did? Boy, how do you like that?
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716. - Witnesses can make mistakes.
- Sure, when you want them to!
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717. - Or when he wants them to!
- Keep the yelling down.
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718. Maybe we need a little yelling. These
guys keep going off every which way.
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719. Did hear the scream, didn't hear it -
what difference does it make?
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720. You're talking about little details
and forgetting the important stuff.
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721. - I call for another vote.
- I'm talking here!
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722. Another vote called for.
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723. Now let's take our seats.
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724. I never saw so much time
spent on nothin'.
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725. It only takes a second.
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726. OK, I guess the fastest way is
to find out who's voting not guilty.
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727. All those voting not guilty,
please raise your hands.
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728. Still the same. One, two, three
not guilty. Nine guilty.
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729. So now where are we? We can yakety-yak
till next Tuesday. Where's it getting us?
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730. Pardon. I vote not guilty.
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731. What are you talkin' about? I mean,
we're all goin' crazy in here or somethin'.
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732. The kid is guilty.
Why don't you listen to the facts?
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733. Tell them, will ya?
This is gettin' to be a joke.
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734. The vote is eight to four in favour of guilty.
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735. What is this?
Love Your Underprivileged Brother Week?
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736. I want you to tell me why
you changed your vote. Give me reasons.
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737. I don't have to defend my decision to you.
There is a reasonable doubt in my mind.
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738. Reasonable doubt?
Nothing but words. Look at this.
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739. The kid you just decided isn't guilty
was seen ramming this into his father!
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740. - What about this, Mr Reasonable Doubt?
- That's not the knife, remember?
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741. - Oh, brilliant!
- I'm tellin' you, this is the craziest.
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742. I mean, what are we supposed to believe?
You're pullin' stories out of thin air.
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743. A guy like this, if he's sittin' ringside
at the Dempsey-Firpo fight,
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744. he'd be trying to tell you that...
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745. Look. Now what about the old man?
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746. Are we supposed to believe he didn't
see the kid tearin' down the steps
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747. 15 seconds after the killing?
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748. He's just sayin' so to be important, right?
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749. - What's the point of it all?
- Hold it.
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750. The Baltimore rooter is heard from again.
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751. - And pop-ups are fallin' for base hits.
- Hold on a second. Look.
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752. - Did the old man say he ran to the door?
- What's the difference?
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753. - He got there, didn't he?
- He said he ran. At least I think he did.
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754. I don't remember, but I don't see
how he could have run.
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755. He said he went from his bedroom
to the front door. Isn't that enough?
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756. - Where was the bedroom?
- Down the hall.
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757. - Don't you remember that?
- No.
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758. - I want to see a diagram of the apartment.
- Why don't we have him on trial again?
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759. You're the only one
wants to see exhibits.
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760. - I want to see this one, too.
- I'd like to stop wastin' time.
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761. If we're gonna wade through
that nonsense about the body...
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762. No, but I'd like to know if an old man
who drags one foot cos he had a stroke
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763. can get from his bedroom
to his front door in 15 seconds.
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764. - He said 20.
- He said 15.
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765. - 20. What are you tryin' to distort?
- He said 15.
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766. How does he know how long
15 seconds is? You can't judge that.
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767. He said 15. He was positive about it.
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768. He was an old man! He was confused!
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769. How could he be positive about anything?
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770. I don't see what you're going to prove.
The man said he saw the boy running out.
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771. Let's see if the details bear him out.
As the body hit the floor,
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772. he said he heard footsteps upstairs,
running to the front door.
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773. Heard the upstairs door open,
the footsteps start down.
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774. He said he got to his own door in, at most,
15 seconds. If the killer ran immediately...
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775. - Maybe he didn't.
- The old man said he did.
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776. You oughta be at
that hair-splitters' convention.
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777. Why don't you stop
making smart remarks?
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778. My friend, for your three dollars a day,
you have to listen to everything.
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779. Here's the apartment. The old man's was
directly beneath and exactly the same.
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780. Here are the el tracks, the bedroom, living
room, kitchen, bathroom, hall, stairs.
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781. The old man was in this bedroom here.
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782. He says he crossed to the door,
walked down the hall, opened the door
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783. just in time to see the boy
running down the stairs. Am I right?
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784. That's the story, for the 19th time.
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785. - 15 seconds after the body hit the floor.
- Correct.
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786. Now, let's see. It was...
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787. It's 12 feet from the bed to the door.
The hall is 43 feet.
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788. He would have had to walk 12 feet,
open the bedroom door,
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789. walk 43 feet down and open
the front door, all in 15 seconds.
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790. - Could he have done it?
- Sure.
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791. He walks slowly. He needed help
into the witness chair.
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792. - You make it sound like a long walk.
- For an old man who had a stroke, it is.
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793. - What are you doin'?
- I'm gonna try it.
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794. What do you mean?
Why didn't his lawyer bring it up?
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795. - Maybe he just didn't think of it.
- Do you think he's an idiot? It's obvious.
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796. - Did you think of it?
- It don't matter. He didn't bring it up
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797. because he knew it'd hurt his case.
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798. Or because it would have meant bullying
and badgering a helpless old man.
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799. That doesn't sit well with a jury.
Most lawyers avoid it.
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800. - What kind of a bum is he?
- That's what I'm asking.
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801. Pass me that chair.
Those two chairs are the old man's bed.
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802. I just paced off 12 feet.
This is the bedroom door.
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803. That's crazy.
You can't re-create a thing like that.
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804. The hall was 43 feet.
I'll pace from that wall and back again.
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805. This is insane. What are you
wasting everybody's time for?
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806. According to you, it'll only take
15 seconds. We can spare that.
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807. Come on. Knock it off.
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808. OK. OK, OK, killer.
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809. Yeah.
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810. Will you stand there and mark the front
door? It was chain-locked, remember.
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811. - Who's got a watch with a second hand?
- I have.
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812. Stamp your foot. That'll be the body
falling. You can time me from there.
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813. - What are we gonna do, play charades?
- What are we waiting for?
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814. I wanna wait till
the second hand reaches 60.
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815. Aw, come on!
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816. Come on, speed it up.
He can walk twice as fast as that.
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817. If you want me to walk
faster than that, I will.
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818. - Lock. Door. Stop.
- Right.
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819. What's the time?
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820. Exactly... 41 seconds.
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821. This is what I think happened. The old
man heard the fight a few hours earlier.
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822. When he's in bed,
he heard the body hit the floor,
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823. heard the woman scream, got to
his front door as fast as he could,
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824. heard somebody running
and assumed it was the boy.
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825. - I think that's possible.
- Assumed?
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826. Brother, I've seen all kinds
of dishonesty in my day,
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827. but this little display takes the cake.
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828. You all come in here with your hearts
bleedin' about slum kids and injustice.
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829. You listen to some fairy tales. You start
getting through to these old ladies.
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830. You're not getting through to me.
I've had enough.
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831. What's the matter with you guys?
You all know he's guilty! He's got to burn!
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832. - He'll slip through our fingers.
- Slip through our fingers?
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833. - Are you his executioner?
- I'm one of 'em.
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834. - Perhaps you'd like to pull the switch.
- For this kid, you bet I would.
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835. I feel sorry for you. What it must
feel like to wanna pull the switch!
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836. Ever since you walked in, you've acted
like a self-appointed public avenger.
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837. You want to see this boy die because
you want it, not because of the facts.
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838. - You're a sadist.
- You...
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839. Let me go! I'll kill him! I'll kill him!
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840. You don't really mean
you'll kill me, do you?
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841. - Anything wrong? I heard some noise.
- No, everything's all right.
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842. We're just... Friendly little argument.
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843. We're through with that diagram.
You can take it if you want. Here you are.
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844. What are you lookin' at?
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845. - Somebody has to start off again.
- I beg pardon...
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846. "I beg pardon."
What are you so polite about?
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847. For the same reason you're not.
It's the way I was brought up.
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848. This fighting... That's not
why we are here, to fight.
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849. We have a responsibility.
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850. This, I have always thought,
is a remarkable thing about democracy.
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851. That we are...
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852. What is the word?
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853. Notified. That we are notified by mail
to come down to this place
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854. to decide on the guilt or innocence of a
man we... we have never heard of before.
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855. We have nothing to gain or lose
by... by our verdict.
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856. This is one of the reasons
why we are strong.
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857. We should not make it a... personal thing.
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858. If nobody else has an idea,
I might have a cutie here.
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859. Let's throw it out
and see if the cat licks it up.
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860. - The cat licks it up?
- Yeah. The boy...
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861. Look how dark it's gettin' out there.
I bet we're gonna have a storm now.
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862. Boy, oh boy. It's really hot, huh?
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863. - Pardon me, but... don't you ever sweat?
- No, I don't.
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864. Listen. I... I was wonderin' if...
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865. Maybe... maybe we should
take another vote.
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866. Great. Maybe we can follow this one up
with a little dancing and refreshments!
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867. - Mr Foreman?
- Well, that's OK with me.
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868. Anyone doesn't wanna vote?
Hey, come on.
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869. - Sorry.
- I think we ought to have an open ballot.
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870. Call out our votes, you know?
Let's see who stands where.
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871. Well, that sounds fair to me.
Anyone object?
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872. OK. I'll call off your jury numbers. One?
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873. Oh, that's me. I vote guilty. Two?
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874. Not guilty.
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875. Number three?
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876. Guilty.
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877. Number four?
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878. Guilty.
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879. Number five?
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880. Not guilty.
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881. Number six?
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882. Not guilty.
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883. Number seven?
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884. Guilty.
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885. Number eight?
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886. Not guilty.
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887. - Number nine?
- Not guilty.
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888. - Number ten?
- Guilty.
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889. Number eleven?
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890. Not guilty.
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891. Number twelve?
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892. Number twelve!
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893. Guilty.
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894. The vote is now six to six.
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895. And we go into extra innings here, eh?
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896. Six to six! I'm telling you, some of you
people in here must be out of your minds.
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897. A kid like that!
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898. I don't think the kind of boy he is
has anything to do with it.
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899. - Facts determine the case.
- Don't give me that!
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900. I'm sick and tired of facts.
You can twist 'em any way you like.
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901. That's exactly the point
this gentleman has been making.
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902. You keep shouting
at the top of your lungs...
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903. I'd like to be a few years younger.
That man gets on my...
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904. - My, it's hot in here.
- Want a drink of water?
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905. No, no. Thanks. Thanks.
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906. - It's gonna rain.
- Well, how'd you figure that out, killer?
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907. - How come you changed your vote?
- It just seemed there was room for doubt.
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908. - You haven't got a leg to stand on.
- I don't feel that way.
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909. - A lot of details never came out.
- Yeah, well, good luck.
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910. Come on. You're like everybody else.
You think too much, you get mixed up.
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911. - You know what I mean?
- I don't think you have any right to...
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912. Loudmouth.
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913. Look at that come down, will ya?
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914. You know, this reminds me
of a storm we had last...
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915. Was it November?
I don't know. Something.
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916. It was quite a storm we had.
It was right in the middle of a game.
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917. We were behind-seven to six. We'd just
started to move the ball, made a tackle.
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918. It was gonna cut right in, slash through,
slashed right in, cut right through...
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919. And...
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920. We had this kid - Slattery.
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921. He was an ox. A real ox.
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922. I wish I had another one just like him.
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923. I forgot to tell you. I'm the assistant head
coach at Andrew J McCorkle High School.
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924. That's out in Queens.
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925. And anyway... we're starting
to move along real nice.
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926. You know, their whole line is just...
just comin' apart.
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927. And it starts to come down,
cats and dogs, just like this.
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928. Just... whoosh! You know, right down.
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929. Well, it was murder, you know?
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930. I swear, I... I nearly bawled.
Just... We couldn't go nowhere.
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931. Hey, what is it with this fan here?
How come...
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932. Must have been
on the same switch with the lights.
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933. Well, things are lookin' up here, huh?
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934. Yeah.
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935. Boy, that's better.
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936. Hey! Two points.
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937. You guys ever go to the Garden?
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938. That's a damn stupid thing to do.
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939. Oh, I'm sorry. I...
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940. You know?
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941. Pardon me.
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942. Well, how do you like it? Even-steven.
Pretty surprising, isn't it?
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943. Yes.
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944. That... business before, when that tall guy,
whatshisname, was tryin' to bait me?
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945. That doesn't prove anything.
I'm a... pretty excitable person.
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946. Where does he come off
calling me a public avenger, a sadist?
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947. Anyone in his right mind
would blow his stack.
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948. He was just tryin' to bait me.
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949. He did an excellent job.
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950. I think we're going nowhere here.
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951. I'm ready to walk into court
and declare a hung jury.
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952. - There's no point in this thing going on.
- I go for that, too.
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953. Let the kid take his chance
with 12 other guys.
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954. The judge won't accept a hung jury.
We haven't been here long.
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955. - Well, let's find out.
- I am not in favour of that.
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956. This kid wouldn't stand a chance
with another jury, and you know it.
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957. Come on, we're hung.
Nobody's gonna change his vote.
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958. - Still no room for reasonable doubt?
- No.
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959. Pardon. Maybe you don't fully understand
the term "reasonable doubt".
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960. What do you mean, I don't understand?
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961. How do you like this guy?
I'm tellin' you, they're all alike.
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962. They come over here
and before they can take a breath,
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963. they're telling us how to run the show.
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964. - Boy, the arrogance of this guy!
- All right.
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965. Let's stop the arguing
for about two minutes in here.
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966. Now, who's got
something constructive to say?
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967. I'd like to go over something,
if you gentlemen don't mind.
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968. An important point
for the prosecution was
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969. the fact that after the boy claimed he was
at the movies when the killing took place,
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970. he couldn't remember the names
of the movies or who starred in them.
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971. - This gentleman has made that point.
- That's correct.
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972. It's the only alibi the boy offered, and
he couldn't back it up with any details.
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973. In the boy's place,
do you think you could remember details
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974. after an upsetting experience
such as being slapped by your father?
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975. I think so, if there were
any special details to remember.
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976. The boy couldn't remember the movies
because he wasn't there.
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977. According to the police testimony,
the boy was questioned in the kitchen,
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978. while the body of his father
was lying in the bedroom.
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979. Do you think
you could remember details?
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980. - I do.
- Under great emotional stress?
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981. - Under great emotional stress.
- He remembered them correctly in court.
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982. Yes. His lawyer took great pains
to bring that out.
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983. He had three months to the day of the trial
in which to memorise them.
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984. It's not difficult for a lawyer to find out
what played on a particular night.
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985. I'll take the testimony
from right after the murder,
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986. when he couldn't remember a thing about
the movies, great emotional stress or not.
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987. - I'd like to ask you a personal question.
- Go ahead.
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988. - Where were you last night?
- I was home all night.
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989. - How about the night before that?
- What is this?
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990. It's all right. I left the office at 8.30
and went straight home and to bed.
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991. - And the night before that?
- That was... Tuesday night.
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992. - The bridge tournament. I played bridge.
- Monday night?
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993. When you get to
New Year's Eve 1954, let me know.
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994. Monday night? Monday night...
my wife and I went to the movies.
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995. - What did you see?
- The Scar/et Circ/e. A whodunit.
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996. - What was the second feature?
- The...
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997. I'll tell you in a minute. The...
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998. Remarkab/e Mrs...
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999. Something.
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1000. Mrs Bainbridge.
The Remarkab/e Mrs Bainbridge.
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1001. I saw that. It's called
The Amazing Mrs Bainbridge.
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1002. Yes. The Amazing Mrs Bainbridge.
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1003. Who was in
The Amazing Mrs Bainbridge?
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1004. Barbara... Long, I think it was.
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1005. A dark, very pretty girl.
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1006. - Ling or... Long. Something like that.
- Who else?
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1007. I'd never heard of them before.
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1008. It was a very inexpensive
second feature, with unknown...
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1009. And you weren't under
an emotional stress, were you?
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1010. No.
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1011. I wasn't.
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1012. - I think the point is made.
- Big point.
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1013. You can talk till your tongue is
draggin' on the floor. The boy is guilty.
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1014. Know what I mean, my friend?
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1015. - You got those cough drops?
- They're all gone, my friend.
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1016. Oh, boy. Look at that rain.
There goes your ball game.
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1017. It's only a shower.
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1018. Besides, they got the infield covered.
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1019. Say, could I see that knife
a second, please?
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1020. Well, we're still tied up six to six.
Who's got a suggestion?
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1021. - It's 5 after 6. Let's get some dinner.
- Why don't we wait till 7 o'clock?
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1022. OK with me.
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1023. There's something I'd like to say.
It's been bothering me a little,
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1024. and as long as we're stuck...
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1025. There was this whole business about
the stab wound and how it was made.
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1026. - The downward angle of it, you know?
- Don't start with that again.
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1027. - They've been over it and over it.
- I know, but I don't go along with it.
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1028. The boy was five feet seven inches tall.
His father was six two.
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1029. That's a difference of seven inches.
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1030. It's very awkward to stab down into the
chest of someone over half a foot taller.
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1031. Give me that.
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1032. I'll give you a demonstration.
Somebody get up.
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1033. Watch this - I don't wanna
have to do it again.
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1034. I'll make myself about
six or seven inches shorter.
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1035. - That's about right. Maybe a little more.
- OK, a little more.
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1036. Now... nobody's hurt.
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1037. - Right?
- Right. Nobody hurt.
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1038. Now, this is the way I'd stab a man
who was... taller than I was.
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1039. Look at the angle. Down and in.
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1040. And this is the way it was done.
Now tell me I'm wrong.
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1041. - Down and in. There's no argument.
- Hold on a minute.
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1042. Will you give me that?
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1043. Boy, I hate these things.
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1044. - Did you ever see a knife fight?
- No.
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1045. Anybody here ever see a knife fight?
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1046. Well, I have. You know, on my back stoop,
the lot across the street, back yard.
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1047. Switchblades came
with the neighbourhood.
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1048. Funny I never thought of it before.
I guess you try to forget.
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1049. - How do you use a switchblade?
- Well, you'd never use it like this.
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1050. See, you'd lose too much time
switching hands.
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1051. Here's how. Underhand.
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1052. Anyone who's ever used one
wouldn't handle it any other way.
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1053. - Are you sure?
- I'm sure.
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1054. - It's why they're made to open like that.
- The boy was pretty handy with a knife?
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1055. You think he could have made
the wound that killed his father?
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1056. No. Not with the experience he got
all his life handling these things.
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1057. - I feel he'd have gone for him underhand.
- How do you know?
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1058. - Were you there when he was killed?
- No. Neither was anybody else.
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1059. What are you giving us this
mumbo jumbo for? I don't believe it.
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1060. I don't think you can tell
what wound he might have made
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1061. simply because he knew
how to handle a knife.
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1062. - What do you think?
- I don't know.
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1063. - What do you mean, you don't know?
- I don't know.
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1064. - How about you?
- I don't know about the rest of 'em,
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1065. but I'm gettin' tired of this
yakety-yakkin'. It's gettin' us nowhere.
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1066. So I guess I'// have to break it up.
I'm changin' my vote to not guilty.
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1067. - You're what?
- You heard me. I've had enough.
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1068. - You've had enough? That's no answer.
- Listen, you just take care of yourself.
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1069. - You know?
- He's right.
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1070. That's not an answer.
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1071. What kind of a man are you?
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1072. You have sat here and voted
guilty with everyone else
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1073. because there are some baseball tickets
burning a hole in your pocket.
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1074. Now you have changed your vote because
you say you're sick of all the talking?
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1075. - Now, listen, buddy...
- Who tells you that you have the right
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1076. to play like this with a man's life?
Don't you care...
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1077. Now, wait a minute.
You can't talk like that to me.
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1078. I can talk like that to you.
If you want to vote not guilty,
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1079. do it because you are convinced he is not
guilty, not because you've had enough.
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1080. And if you think he is guilty,
then vote that way.
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1081. Or don't you have the guts
to do what you think is right?
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1082. - Now, listen...
- Guilty or not guilty?
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1083. - I told you. Not guilty.
- Why?
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1084. - Look, I don't have to...
- You do have to. Say it. Why?
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1085. I... I don't think he's guilty.
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1086. - I want another vote.
- OK, that's another vote called for.
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1087. I guess the quickest way
is a show of hands. Anyone object?
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1088. OK, all those voting not guilty,
raise your hands.
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1089. One, two, three,
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1090. four, five, six, seven...
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1091. eight.
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1092. Nine.
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1093. All those voting guilty, raise your hands.
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1094. One, two, three.
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1095. Well, the vote's nine to three
in favour of acquittal.
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1096. I don't understand you people!
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1097. All these picky little points you keep
bringing up, they don't mean nothing!
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1098. You saw this kid just like I did.
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1099. Don't tell me you believe that
phoney story about losing the knife
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1100. and about being at the movies.
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1101. Look, you know how these people lie.
It's born in them.
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1102. What the heck? I don't have to tell you.
They don't know what the truth is!
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1103. And they don't need any real big reason
to kill someone, either.
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1104. No, sir. They get drunk.
They're real big drinkers, all of 'em.
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1105. You know that. And bang!
Someone's lying in the gutter.
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1106. Nobody's blaming 'em.
That's the way they are by nature.
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1107. You know what I mean? Violent.
Where are you going?
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1108. Human life don't mean
as much to them as it does to us.
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1109. They're lushing it up
and fighting all the time,
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1110. and if somebody gets killed,
somebody gets killed! They don't care!
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1111. Sure, there's some good things about 'em,
too. I'm the first one to say that.
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1112. I've known a couple who were OK,
but that's the exception.
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1113. Most of 'em, it's like they have
no feelings! They can do anything!
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1114. What's going on here?
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1115. I'm trying to tell you.
You're making a big mistake, you people.
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1116. This kid is a liar. I know it.
I know all about them.
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1117. Listen to me. They're no good.
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1118. There's not a one of 'em who's any good.
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1119. I mean, what's happening in here?
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1120. I speak my piece, and you...
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1121. Listen to me.
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1122. I... We're... we're...
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1123. This kid on trial here. His type.
Well, don't you know about them?
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1124. There's a... There's a danger here.
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1125. These people are dangerous.
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1126. They're... wild.
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1127. Listen to me. Listen to me.
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1128. I have. Now, sit down
and don't open your mouth again.
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1129. Some of the time... I tell you.
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1130. It's always difficult to keep personal
prejudice out of a thing like this.
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1131. Wherever you run into it,
prejudice always obscures the truth.
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1132. I don't really know what the truth is.
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1133. I don't suppose anybody
will ever really know.
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1134. Nine of us now seem to feel
that the defendant is innocent.
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1135. But we're just gambling on
probabilities. We may be wrong.
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1136. We may be trying to let a guilty man
go free. I don't know. Nobody really can.
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1137. But we have a reasonable doubt.
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1138. And that's something
that's very valuable in our system.
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1139. No jury can declare a man guilty
unless it's sure.
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1140. We nine can't understand
how you three are still so sure.
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1141. - Maybe you can tell us.
- I'll try.
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1142. You've made some excellent points,
but I still believe the boy is guilty.
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1143. I have two reasons. The evidence
given by the woman across the street,
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1144. who actually saw the murder committed.
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1145. That's the most important testimony.
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1146. And two: The fact that
she described the stabbing
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1147. by saying she saw the boy
raise his arm over his head
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1148. and stab down into the father's chest.
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1149. - She saw him do it, the wrong way.
- That's absolutely right.
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1150. Let's talk about this woman for a moment.
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1151. She said she went to bed
about eleven o'clock that night.
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1152. Her bed was next to the window,
and she could look out
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1153. and see directly into
the boy's room across the street.
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1154. She tossed and turned for over an hour.
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1155. Finally, she turned toward the window
at about 10 minutes after 12,
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1156. and as she looked out, she saw the killing
through the windows of a passing el train.
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1157. She said the lights went out
after the killing,
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1158. but that she got a good look at the boy
in the act of stabbing his father.
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1159. As far as I can see it,
this is unshakeable testimony.
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1160. - Well, that's the whole case.
- What do you think?
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1161. How about you?
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1162. I don't know. So much evidence to sift.
This is a pretty complicated business.
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1163. Frankly, I don't see how
you can vote for acquittal.
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1164. - It's not so easy to arrange the evidence.
- Throw out all the other evidence!
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1165. The woman saw him do it!
What else do you want?
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1166. - Well, maybe...
- Let's vote on it.
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1167. OK, there's another vote called for.
Anyone object?
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1168. All right. I'm changing my vote.
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1169. - He's guilty.
- Anybody else? The vote is eight to four.
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1170. Why is this such a personal triumph
for you, this one vote?
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1171. OK. I say we're a hung jury.
I say we take it in to the judge.
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1172. How about it? I wanna hear arguments.
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1173. You, you're the leader of the cause.
What about it?
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1174. - Let's go over it again.
- We've been over it again.
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1175. The boy in the grey flannel suit is
bouncin' back and forth like a tennis ball.
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1176. There's no point in getting nasty.
You keep trying to turn this into a contest.
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1177. OK.
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1178. Maybe we can talk about
setting some kind of time limit.
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1179. Yeah. Once around for the deal, huh?
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1180. It's... a quarter after six. Someone
before mentioned seven o'clock.
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1181. That's a point at which we might begin to
discuss whether we're a hung jury or not.
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1182. - Don't you feel well?
- I feel perfectly well, thank you.
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1183. I was saying seven o'clock
would be a reasonable time...
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1184. The reason I asked that was because
you were rubbing your nose like...
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1185. Oh, I'm sorry for interrupting.
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1186. But you made a gesture
that reminded me of something.
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1187. - I'm trying to settle something here.
- Well, I think this is important.
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1188. Thank you. Now, then.
I'm sure you'll pardon me for this,
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1189. but I was wondering why
you rub your nose like that.
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1190. Come on, will you?
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1191. At this point I happen to be talking
to the gentleman sitting next to you.
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1192. Now, why were you
rubbing your nose like that?
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1193. If it's any of your business, I was
rubbing it because it bothers me a little.
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1194. Oh, I'm sorry. Is it...
Is it because of your eyeglasses?
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1195. It is. Now could we get on
to something else?
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1196. Your eyeglasses made those two deep
impressions on the sides of your nose.
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1197. I hadn't noticed that before.
That must be annoying.
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1198. It is very annoying.
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1199. I wouldn't know about that.
I've never worn eyeglasses. 20/20.
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1200. Listen, will you come on already
with the optometrist bit?
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1201. The woman who testified
that she saw the killing
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1202. had those same marks
on the sides of her nose.
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1203. Holy smoke! He's right.
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1204. Please. Just give me a minute...
and I'll be finished.
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1205. I don't know if anyone else
noticed that about her.
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1206. I didn't think of it then, but I've been
going over her face... in my mind.
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1207. She had those same marks.
She kept rubbing them in court.
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1208. He's right. She did do that a lot.
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1209. This woman was about 45 years old.
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1210. She was making
a tremendous effort to look 35.
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1211. For her first public appearance.
Heavy make-up. Dyed hair.
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1212. Brand-new clothes that should have
been worn by a younger woman.
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1213. No glasses. Well, women do that.
See if you can get a mental picture of her.
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1214. What do you mean, no glasses? How do
you know whether she wore glasses?
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1215. - Just cos she was rubbin' her nose?
- She had those marks. I saw 'em.
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1216. - So? What do you think that means?
- I'm sick of your yellin'...
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1217. Come on. Forget it.
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1218. Hey, listen. Listen, he's right. I saw
them too. I was the closest one to her.
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1219. She had these things
on the side of her nose.
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1220. What point are you makin'?
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1221. She had dyed hair, marks on her nose.
What does that mean?
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1222. Could those marks be made
by anything other than eyeglasses?
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1223. No. They couldn't.
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1224. I didn't see any marks!
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1225. I did. Strange,
but I didn't think about it before.
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1226. Why didn't the lawyer say something?
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1227. There are twelve people in here
concentrating on this case.
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1228. - Eleven of us didn't think of it either.
- What about the district attorney?
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1229. You think he'd pull that?
Have her testify without her glasses?
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1230. Ever see a woman who didn't want to
wear them because they spoil her looks?
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1231. OK. She had marks on her nose.
I'm givin' you that.
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1232. From glasses, right? She didn't
wanna wear 'em out of the house
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1233. so people'd think she's gorgeous.
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1234. But when she saw this kid killin'
his father, she was in the house alone.
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1235. That's all.
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1236. Do you wear glasses when you go to bed?
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1237. No. I don't.
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1238. No one wears eyeglasses to bed.
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1239. It's logical to assume
that she wasn't wearing them in bed.
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1240. - How do you know?
- I don't know. I'm guessing.
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1241. I'm also guessing that she didn't put them
on when she looked out of the window.
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1242. She testified the killing
took place just as she looked out.
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1243. The lights went off.
She didn't have time to put them on.
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1244. Here's another guess. She honestly
thought she saw the boy kill his father.
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1245. - I say she only saw a blur.
- How do you know what she saw?
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1246. How does he know all that? How
do you know what glasses she wore?
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1247. Maybe they were sunglasses! Maybe
she was far-sighted! What do you know?
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1248. I only know the woman's eyesight
is in question now.
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1249. She had to be able to identify a person
60 feet away, at night, without glasses.
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1250. You can't send someone off
to die on evidence like that.
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1251. Aw, don't give me that.
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1252. - Might she not have made a mistake?
- No.
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1253. - It's not possible?
- No, it's not possible.
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1254. Is it possible?
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1255. Not guilty.
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1256. Do you think he's guilty?
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1257. I think he's guilty.
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1258. Do you?
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1259. No.
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1260. I'm convinced. Not guilty.
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1261. - What's the matter with you?
- I have a reasonable doubt now.
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1262. - It's eleven to one.
- What about all the other evidence?
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1263. What about all that stuff? The...
The knife? The whole business?
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1264. Well, you said we could
throw out all the other evidence.
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1265. Well, what do we do now?
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1266. You're alone.
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1267. I don't care whether I'm alone or not.
It's my right.
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1268. It's your right.
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1269. Well, what do you want? I say he's guilty.
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1270. - We want to hear your arguments.
- I gave you my arguments.
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1271. We're not convinced.
We want to hear them again.
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1272. We have as much time as it takes.
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1273. Everything-every single thing that took
place in that courtroom says he's guilty.
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1274. What do you think?
I'm an idiot or somethin'?
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1275. Take that stuff about the old man,
who lived there and heard everything!
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1276. Or this business about the knife.
They found another one exactly like it?
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1277. The old man saw him!
Right there, on the stairs.
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1278. What's the difference
how many seconds it was?
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1279. Every single thing. The knife
fallin' through a hole in his pocket.
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1280. You can't prove he didn't get to the door!
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1281. Sure, you can take all the time, hobble
around the room, but you can't prove it!
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1282. And what about this business of the el?
And the movies?
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1283. There's a phoney deal if I ever heard one.
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1284. I'll bet you $5,000
I'd remember the movies I saw.
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1285. I'm tellin' you, everything that's gone on
has been twisted and turned!
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1286. This business with the glasses?
How do you know she didn't have 'em on?
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1287. This woman testified in open court!
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1288. And what about
hearin' the kid yell? Huh?
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1289. I'm tellin' ya, I've got all the facts here.
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1290. Here...
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1291. Well, that's it. That's the whole case.
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1292. Well?
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1293. Say something!
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1294. You lousy bunch of bleedin' hearts.
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1295. You're not gonna intimidate me.
I'm entitled to my opinion.
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1296. Rotten kids... You work your life out!
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1297. No...
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1298. Not guilty.
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1299. Not guilty.
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1300. We're ready now.
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1301. Hey!
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1302. - What's your name?
- Davis.
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1303. My name's McCardle.
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1304. - Well, so long.
- So long.
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