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rated show forever.
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and said,
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hiring decision ever."
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I remember Bill Busch
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lured him from WWF,
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professional wrestling.
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all the time.
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Vince was coming in.
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something new here.
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where I started writing
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articles a month.
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with the TV show.
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in his office immediately."
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back and forth.
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didn't think of before.
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the head writer of
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that time frame.
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another show, Smack Down,
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on the verge of
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any more money.
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building such a close,
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with Vince that
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I broke down and
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my WCW connection.
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and his family,
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an opportunity
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the entire book.
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enthusiasm at that time that
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needed to give WCW
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that it needed.
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Monday Nitro!
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a great challenge,
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I saw a whole breed
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somewhere in the middle
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whatever reason,
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them before.
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Here he comes back!
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in terms of ring skills
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you know, I think there was
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people gave them credit for.
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he did not trust me, bro,
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and he was not gonna
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no doubt in my mind
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for a little of this.
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for costing Eric his job.
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but Eric's boys,
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care of and made rich,
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what Russo wanted.
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sleeping giant.
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fan of Vince's.
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plan, and if you go back and
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on in the background,
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Jerry Springer?
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characters and storyline.
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we needed to do.
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with a mummy!
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everything was quick.
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I was very hopeful.
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from a more laid back
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and it's more electrified
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that sort of thing.
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on the internet!
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the numbers went up-
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but they went up.
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and to make this show
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wrestling audience.
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fan and you're watching
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a pole match.
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on the forklift now!
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to watch that,
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or whatever?
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himself.
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in the back of my mind
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lead to our ultimate demise.
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because Vince McMahon
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what was good and,
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what was bad.
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or he doesn't have
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where WCW was.
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around, JJ Dylan,
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I looked at them, boom,
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rearing their ugly head.
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into his office.
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into a, ah, committee,
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part of a committee."
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going to go home,
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gonna pay me."
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the end of it,
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such a complete change.
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I said,
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Perry Saturn,
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Eddie Guerrero.
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the undercard...
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because they knew.
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what had happened.
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intricate part of the show.
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Nash, Hall,
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belt on Benoit.
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word if we can!
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they asked for their release,
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"Yes, you can go."
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having dinner with my wife,
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Chris, and Perry Saturn,
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WCW have hit rock bottom.
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ship, it's inevitable.
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I said to my wife,
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WCW mid card-
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Dean Malenko,
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for the longest time.
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opposite is happening,
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to WCW because
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and these are wrestlers,
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years ahead of them.
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walked out- Ooh.
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formula that was working
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good idea at the time.
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report to you, nobody else."
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professionally.
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I can make this work.
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monthly... doing,
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426. From day one, that's the
wrestling business.
Copy !req
427. And I'm, I'm a firm believer
that if you're gonna create
Copy !req
428. a story, try to create one
that's based on
Copy !req
429. some sense of reality.
Copy !req
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at WCW were the top guys
Copy !req
431. that were making
all the money.
Copy !req
432. Okay, the- you know,
the Hogans, the Savages,
Copy !req
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you know,
Copy !req
434. Sting fell in that category.
Copy !req
435. The, the New Blood
were the hungry,
Copy !req
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a fraction of their salary
Copy !req
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being held down by
Copy !req
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Copy !req
439. So now they were gonna
have their day in court.
Copy !req
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"The Bollster" Hogan!
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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attention around here!
Copy !req
443. A lot of tension at
that time because,
Copy !req
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of the guard,
Copy !req
445. that stuff was real too,
you know.
Copy !req
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the, the older guys.
Copy !req
447. You know, those guys didn't
want to give up their spots.
Copy !req
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"We're making money"?
Copy !req
449. Yeah, cause we earned
our spot, you know,
Copy !req
450. and bottom line is now
we're finally making money.
Copy !req
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you know, he's getting older,
Copy !req
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locker room's
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You know.
Copy !req
454. Well, yeah, Hulk Hogan's
getting older,
Copy !req
455. and so is every other damn
wrestler in the back too.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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That's someone who's-
Copy !req
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let it go, man.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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but for me...
Copy !req
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I always, ah,
Copy !req
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my talent could take me,
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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gonna be politics,
Copy !req
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there were gonna be
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Copy !req
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these things,
Copy !req
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into this to win.
Copy !req
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go to work and
Copy !req
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and just waste my time.
Copy !req
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going to do
Copy !req
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possibly can do
Copy !req
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ratings back up.
Copy !req
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major motion picture
Copy !req
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Copy !req
476. David Arquette
was gonna be the star,
Copy !req
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multiple WCW wrestlers in it.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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be a wrestler?
Copy !req
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wrestling your weewee
Copy !req
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to take a leak.
Copy !req
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I have trouble.
Copy !req
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interest in becoming a
Copy !req
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except for the fact that
Copy !req
485. when I was a kid and I'd
look up at 'em, and, and...
Copy !req
486. I'd be like, "Ah, it would be
so great to be the champion,"
Copy !req
487. you know,
and just, ah-
Copy !req
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thought of
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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- Steel cage! Done!
Copy !req
491. But, part of the story line
in "Ready To Rumble" is that
Copy !req
492. my character, Gordie, becomes
a wrestler at the end of it.
Copy !req
493. And I think that was part of
the germ of the idea in
Copy !req
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that we could sort of
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those worlds.
Copy !req
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production meeting,
Copy !req
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um...
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Eric Bischoff,
Copy !req
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David Arquette.
Copy !req
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production meeting.
Copy !req
501. Boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom.
Copy !req
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I'm literally there by myself,
Copy !req
503. and Tony Schiavone
comes over. And Tony says,
Copy !req
504. "Vince, do you mind if
I pitch you something?"
Copy !req
505. I said, "Tony, absolutely."
And I got the,
Copy !req
506. "What if...
Copy !req
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match and becomes
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Champion?"
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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this idea.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
512. Bro, 100% of the
people were for it.
Copy !req
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the idea generated.
Copy !req
514. We'd done other things to
help promote movies, and,
Copy !req
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shows in the past.
Copy !req
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way to promote the movie.
Copy !req
517. But I didn't see
the harm in it.
Copy !req
518. I just laughed
out aloud and...
Copy !req
519. I went, "Yeah, right,
so what are we doing?"
Copy !req
520. And Eric goes,
"That's what we're doing."
Copy !req
521. I go, "No, we're not."
Copy !req
522. He goes, "Yes, we are."
I go, "Bro, come on.
Copy !req
523. Stop fucking with me.
We're not gonna do that."
Copy !req
524. I go,
"That's not a good idea."
Copy !req
525. It was like,
"That's a terrible idea.
Copy !req
526. You can't do that."
Copy !req
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Copy !req
528. Oh, Jarrett's got the belt!
Copy !req
529. Arquette-
1, 2, 3!
Copy !req
530. What?
Copy !req
531. What, what did-
What's going on here?
Copy !req
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the world title!
Copy !req
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like, reaction
Copy !req
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the champion.
Copy !req
535. You know, people throwing
something, spitting on you,
Copy !req
536. and calling you the worst
things in the world, but...
Copy !req
537. It really hit me when
Copy !req
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locker room and,
Copy !req
539. Booker T was there, and
he was getting ready.
Copy !req
540. He goes,
"Booker, man,
Copy !req
541. this is so great, man.
I'm the world champion!
Copy !req
542. I'm the world champion!"
You know, and he goes...
Copy !req
543. "How many times have you
been champ, Booker?"
Copy !req
544. He's like...
Copy !req
545. "I never won it,"
you know.
Copy !req
546. And then he goes...
Copy !req
547. He, his, his mood
totally changed.
Copy !req
548. And then I was like,
"Oof, whoa, okay,"
Copy !req
549. that like,
that hit me, so...
Copy !req
550. It was hard to
see that, you know,
Copy !req
551. you do have these guys who
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lives for this sport,
Copy !req
553. and then you have a
Hollywood actor,
Copy !req
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David Arquette who
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come in and win that title.
Copy !req
556. Yeah, that, that,
that's a hard thing.
Copy !req
557. I would say it was just
another nail in the coffin of
Copy !req
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dying at that time.
Copy !req
559. I thought it was a
bad idea putting the
Copy !req
560. World Heavyweight
Championship
Copy !req
561. on David Arquette.
Copy !req
562. I mean, movie star or not,
it's just not a good play.
Copy !req
563. And when you do something
like this, you go,
Copy !req
564. "Okay, where do
we go from here?"
Copy !req
565. Well, people were pissed that
this actor that had never
Copy !req
566. paid his dues-
cause that's a big thing,
Copy !req
567. paying your dues, right?-
was a world champion.
Copy !req
568. And Vince's rebuttal
to that was,
Copy !req
569. "It got eyes on
the product."
Copy !req
570. I don't know how well it did
in the ratings, but, I go,
Copy !req
571. "Yeah, but it got people
talking for the wrong reasons."
Copy !req
572. I don't think that
was a good idea.
Copy !req
573. Bro, I'll never forget,
the next morning after that,
Copy !req
574. I get up, I go downstairs
to the front desk.
Copy !req
575. What's on the front cover
of the USA Today?
Copy !req
576. That would have
never, ever happened
Copy !req
577. in a million years.
Copy !req
578. And at that time,
that's what we are after.
Copy !req
579. And again, bro,
I'm going to say it,
Copy !req
580. I write a television show.
Copy !req
581. If you think about the
importance of the world title
Copy !req
582. in wrestling, yes,
it's predetermined,
Copy !req
583. but it does carry with it
a huge amount of value,
Copy !req
584. and I think fans perceived
this as another attempt to
Copy !req
585. get the interest back in
one day rather than
Copy !req
586. building for the future.
Copy !req
587. The wrestling audience
didn't appreciate it.
Copy !req
588. In the eyes of, you know,
the hardcore wrestling fan.
Copy !req
589. And I'm not
dismissing them,
Copy !req
590. and I don't mean
it derisively.
Copy !req
591. But, the really passionate
wrestling fan felt that
Copy !req
592. it really made a
mockery of the title,
Copy !req
593. to use that title
in that way.
Copy !req
594. I didn't feel that way
in that moment.
Copy !req
595. I was looking at the
bigger opportunity,
Copy !req
596. and felt like we could
sustain a couple weeks
Copy !req
597. of bad press.
Copy !req
598. I think Eric put himself
in a position to where...
Copy !req
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and just started being
Copy !req
600. a part of the shots that
were being called.
Copy !req
601. And I think that was,
perhaps, the biggest problem.
Copy !req
602. It is what it is.
Copy !req
603. I didn't stop it,
let's put it that way.
Copy !req
604. I supported it.
Copy !req
605. And I participated,
for God's sake.
Copy !req
606. The World
Heavyweight Champion!
Copy !req
607. I would do the same
thing today, bro.
Copy !req
608. Without blinking an eye,
Copy !req
609. I would do the same
exact thing today.
Copy !req
610. Quite frankly,
I could care less.
Copy !req
611. Arquette goes out
there the next day!
Copy !req
612. He doesn't want
the championship!
Copy !req
613. What? Whoa! Bro!
Copy !req
614. I, I, you know-
Copy !req
615. we followed that up
in the story line.
Copy !req
616. What did he have it, bro,
for like a week?
Copy !req
617. Hey, I think I
killed out there.
Copy !req
618. Listen, Page, this has
all been a big fluke,
Copy !req
619. it's been a whole lot of
fun, but I don't deserve
Copy !req
620. to be the World
Heavyweight Champion.
Copy !req
621. And he went out on,
you know, the next day,
Copy !req
622. and he goes, "Man,
I shouldn't have the title.
Copy !req
623. People like Booker T
should have the title."
Copy !req
624. Tonight, I'm gonna
relinquish the belt,
Copy !req
625. and give up the title.
I don't deserve it.
Copy !req
626. How about that?
Copy !req
627. - These guys deserve it.
Copy !req
628. Maybe Booker T
deserves it,
Copy !req
629. but I don't deserve it.
Copy !req
630. You know, I was like,
"Wow!" You know?
Copy !req
631. So, he might have been
my biggest cheerleader,
Copy !req
632. you know, he might have been
the spark that lit the flame.
Copy !req
633. I started at the
bottom of that company,
Copy !req
634. and I had seen these
guys on television,
Copy !req
635. and now I'm in the same
locker room with them,
Copy !req
636. and competing with them
at the highest level.
Copy !req
637. I was doing something that
I had never imagined
Copy !req
638. or dreamt of doing in
a million years.
Copy !req
639. Now the axe kick!
Copy !req
640. I knew Book was
gonna be a big star.
Copy !req
641. When he was putting on
grease paint one time
Copy !req
642. when he was doing
G. I. Bro.
Copy !req
643. He said, "I'm here, and I'm
gonna keep doing what
Copy !req
644. I'm doing, and eventually
I'm gonna get there."
Copy !req
645. And I'm like, "You know
what, bro, you're right,
Copy !req
646. you are." I said, "You got
the best attitude ever."
Copy !req
647. Thinking about winning the
world title for me
Copy !req
648. in this company,
is something that
Copy !req
649. I never really
thought about.
Copy !req
650. When I first came in
this company, it was,
Copy !req
651. you know,
it was a clique.
Copy !req
652. It was a good old boys
clique, you know,
Copy !req
653. and if you wasn't in
the good old boy clique,
Copy !req
654. you only went to a
certain level, you know.
Copy !req
655. 'Cause I was Black,
to be honest.
Copy !req
656. I knew how good I was.
Copy !req
657. There wasn't a
doubt in my mind.
Copy !req
658. But you still wonder if the
company would be
Copy !req
659. willing to accept
a Black champion.
Copy !req
660. He was beloved,
everybody loved him.
Copy !req
661. He was so easy
to work with.
Copy !req
662. He paid his dues.
Copy !req
663. Booker, like, had completely
thrown in the towel of
Copy !req
664. ever thinking he was going
to be a champion
Copy !req
665. because he knew the
political game!
Copy !req
666. Everybody's fighting
for the same spot!
Copy !req
667. And especially, bro,
when you're on top,
Copy !req
668. you got everybody
gunning for you.
Copy !req
669. So, when Hulk
was on top, yes,
Copy !req
670. did he do everything
he possibly could
Copy !req
671. to secure that spot?
Copy !req
672. Bro, 1000%.
Copy !req
673. Halloween Havoc '99
I think was
Copy !req
674. the last time
Hogan appeared.
Copy !req
675. Of course, I was sent
home in September of '99.
Copy !req
676. Hogan stuck around
because he was
Copy !req
677. obligated
and advertised.
Copy !req
678. But,
without me there,
Copy !req
679. Hogan really wasn't
too interested in
Copy !req
680. working in any way,
shape, or form with Russo.
Copy !req
681. So, when I came back
to work with Russo,
Copy !req
682. that certainly made it
a lot easier.
Copy !req
683. Eric is now treating me
Copy !req
684. as I'm below him.
Copy !req
685. And I, I had
had enough.
Copy !req
686. So, I called Brad Siegel.
Copy !req
687. And I said,
Copy !req
688. "Brad, if you want to
make Eric head of creative,
Copy !req
689. freaking make him
head of creative!"
Copy !req
690. And bro, Brad Siegel said,
"No, no, no, no, no, no, no
Copy !req
691. Vince! I want YOU to
write creative."
Copy !req
692. Bro, two days later was
Bash At The Beach.
Copy !req
693. Bash At The Beach 2000 was
really the culmination point
Copy !req
694. of the tension between Russo
and what he wanted to do,
Copy !req
695. me and what I was willing
to do in the role I was in,
Copy !req
696. and what Hogan was
willing to do...
Copy !req
697. given that he had
creative control.
Copy !req
698. I will say this up front,
without a shadow of a doubt,
Copy !req
699. if there was no
Eric Bischoff,
Copy !req
700. I would have had a great
relationship with Hulk Hogan.
Copy !req
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there ever
Copy !req
702. would have
been an issue.
Copy !req
703. Hulk and I have a good idea
of what we wanted to do
Copy !req
704. with his participation.
Copy !req
705. He and I are on
the same page,
Copy !req
706. and Hulk Hogan has
creative control,
Copy !req
707. so that's pretty much
the end of any dispute
Copy !req
708. or conversation, right.
Copy !req
709. But at the same time,
Vince Russo had
Copy !req
710. his ideas of what
he wanted to do.
Copy !req
711. And what he was able
to do was
Copy !req
712. take the original
idea of Hulk and I's,
Copy !req
713. which was create some
kind of scenario
Copy !req
714. where Hulk gets so
frustrated, or disgusted,
Copy !req
715. or pissed off, he grabs the
belt and walks out of
Copy !req
716. the building, presumably
never to be seen again.
Copy !req
717. That was the plan.
Copy !req
718. I'm saying to myself,
bro, no.
Copy !req
719. You're not walking out
of here with the belt.
Copy !req
720. - Now what?
- I don't know, it's...
Copy !req
721. Who's laying down
on this one?
Copy !req
722. But what Vince Russo did was
jump in the middle part of
Copy !req
723. our plan, and decided that
once Eric and Hulk
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which we did,
Copy !req
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OUR script-
Copy !req
726. Vince Russo jumped into
the ring, live,
Copy !req
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for himself and
Copy !req
728. implemented
his own idea.
Copy !req
729. Hey, let me tell ya who
doesn't give a shit
Copy !req
730. about this company!
Copy !req
731. That God damn politician,
Hulk Hogan!
Copy !req
732. I remember looking around,
Copy !req
733. talking to some of the
other Nitro Girls, like...
Copy !req
734. "Is, is this what's supposed
to be happening?"
Copy !req
735. Like, what's going-
is this written?
Copy !req
736. What is going on?
Copy !req
737. Hulk Hogan tonight
wants to play
Copy !req
738. his creative control card.
Copy !req
739. Holy shit.
Copy !req
740. This, this is...
Copy !req
741. he's shooting, you know,
he's talking for real.
Copy !req
742. This is not a work.
Copy !req
743. But one thing I do
want to point out.
Copy !req
744. As much as this was a work,
and everybody was,
Copy !req
745. you know, in on it,
when I talk about reality,
Copy !req
746. I really am
this pissed off.
Copy !req
747. Hogan got his belt,
and he went the hell home,
Copy !req
748. and I promise
everybody or else
Copy !req
749. I'll go in the
God damn grave,
Copy !req
750. you will never see
that piece of shit again.
Copy !req
751. I didn't know that
was coming, and...
Copy !req
752. that promo to me felt as
real as it possibly can be,
Copy !req
753. as far as two people having
Copy !req
754. a venomous animosity
towards each other.
Copy !req
755. The point of this promo
was not to run Hogan down.
Copy !req
756. The point of it was...
Copy !req
757. we need Booker
to win the belt,
Copy !req
758. and I need to make sense of
Copy !req
759. why this match is happening.
Copy !req
760. For the WCW title,
two deserving guys-
Copy !req
761. Jarrett! And Booker!
Copy !req
762. Will compete for the WCW,
Copy !req
763. and they'll tear this
God damn house down!
Copy !req
764. I found out about 10 minutes
before I had to wrestle.
Copy !req
765. This all came as
a surprise to me.
Copy !req
766. I really don't know
what's going on.
Copy !req
767. Vince made the decision.
Copy !req
768. Cut that promo before
I had to go out.
Copy !req
769. Man, I had so
much energy.
Copy !req
770. Opportunity has knocked,
and I will be damned
Copy !req
771. if I don't
answer that door.
Copy !req
772. I am gonna do what I have
to do tonight to take
Copy !req
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around my waist,
Copy !req
774. and taking it to the
next millennium.
Copy !req
775. Now can you
dig that shit?
Copy !req
776. I can.
Tony, back to you.
Copy !req
777. I was ready to become
the world champ.
Copy !req
778. I remember, before the bell
rang I jumped up so high,
Copy !req
779. you know, and, you know,
just because I was like,
Copy !req
780. "Let's get this done,"
you know.
Copy !req
781. 2! 3!
Copy !req
782. Booker T's the champ!
Copy !req
783. It took somebody
like Vince Russo,
Copy !req
784. somebody that was outside
the box that pushed them
Copy !req
785. to make a decision,
and then, you know,
Copy !req
786. check their conscience
for a second.
Copy !req
787. I came back for
the Booker Ts!
Copy !req
788. I was totally out of
the loop, as far as...
Copy !req
789. what was going on with...
Copy !req
790. Vince Russo and
Copy !req
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Eric Bischoff.
Copy !req
792. Bro, the next day
on the internet,
Copy !req
793. everybody bought this-
hook, line, and sinker.
Copy !req
794. And bro, what you got over
and over and over again was,
Copy !req
795. "Finally! Somebody put
Hulk Hogan in his place!"
Copy !req
796. Hulk is at home,
and he's reading this,
Copy !req
797. and he's seething, and his
ego is kicking in because
Copy !req
798. now it looks like this
jackass, Vince Russo,
Copy !req
799. got one over
on Hulk Hogan.
Copy !req
800. That's why this company's
in the damn shape
Copy !req
801. it's in because of
bullshit like this.
Copy !req
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nonstop vibrating.
Copy !req
803. Hulk's phone's
blowing up.
Copy !req
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hear bits and pieces
Copy !req
805. from different people
about what Russo did.
Copy !req
806. And we're looking at
each other like this can't,
Copy !req
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possibly be true.
Copy !req
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contractually entitled to
Copy !req
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over creative...
Copy !req
810. and yet, he throws all of that
out the window and
Copy !req
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for himself?
Copy !req
812. Tears the script up,
and says,
Copy !req
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my way instead"?
Copy !req
814. We couldn't believe
that that happened.
Copy !req
815. As far as Hulk was
concerned, he's done.
Copy !req
816. There's going
to be a lawsuit.
Copy !req
817. As far as I'm concerned,
I'm done.
Copy !req
818. Regardless of who did
what and who says what,
Copy !req
819. let's just look at it from
the most important person
Copy !req
820. in the equation, which is
the people paying money to
Copy !req
821. come and see the shows,
buying the Pay Per View,
Copy !req
822. showing up to
the live events.
Copy !req
823. Why would I buy into the idea
that the next Pay Per View
Copy !req
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biggest event ever,
Copy !req
825. or the next match is
gonna be unbelievable
Copy !req
826. when it seems like every
time they hype something up
Copy !req
827. some nonsense
like this happens?
Copy !req
828. Ultimately, I think what
this represented was the
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829. blowing up of this new
creative team that
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830. many had predicted
was inevitable.
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831. And unfortunately,
it played out,
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832. not behind the scenes,
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833. but in front of
everyone to see.
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834. You could talk about
angles and storylines,
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835. and this and that-
the fact that I was
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836. in a position to be able
to do the right thing-
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837. Booker T becoming
the champion and
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838. a man finally getting
what he deserved and
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839. getting through all that
red tape and all the BS
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840. was far and away my
greatest moment.
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841. Russo's stunt made it
impossible for me to,
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842. A, trust Vince Russo.
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843. Or really the judgement
of anybody else,
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844. including Brad Siegel.
Brad had a choice.
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845. He could have
sent Russo home
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846. following
Bash At The Beach.
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847. But he didn't.
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848. Eric and Hogan
were partners in
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849. what they wanted
to do at WCW.
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850. And, I was trying to do
whatever I can do
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851. to get it back on track.
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852. I came back to the guys
behind that curtain
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853. that give a shit about
this company!
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854. Post Bash At The Beach,
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855. now we have another
creative shake-up.
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856. Eric goes home,
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857. Hulk is never to be seen
on WCW TV again.
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858. And for the next 3 months
we have Vince Russo and
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859. a booking committee mapping
out WCW's story lines.
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860. So much had happened,
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861. there had been so many
attempted restarts and reboots
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862. and changes of direction
that the entire promotion
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863. was sort of in a
state of shell shock.
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864. Once the bleeding started,
it was a consistent
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865. deterioration of
WCW's business.
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866. Everything was
very spontaneous,
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867. "What gets me excited now?"
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868. Learn the meaning of the
world discipline, ladies?
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869. He was doing a
lot of segments
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870. with himself involved.
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871. Well, he was brought
in to be a writer.
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872. And then, he'd write
himself into the show.
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873. And, write himself
as one of the
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874. main characters
in the show.
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875. This is my show!
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876. This is my house!
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877. And these are my people!
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878. I'm just going to be 1000%
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879. completely honest with you.
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880. As far as an
on-air character,
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881. I felt that I was better than
80% of that roster.
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882. They put so much
pressure on me, bro,
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883. that I made the mistake
of saying, "You know what?
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884. F' it.
If you want ratings,
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885. I will go out there and
get ratings myself."
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886. I almost get killed, bro.
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887. I almost got killed.
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888. Oh! Whoa!
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889. What I'm looking for
tonight is ratings!
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890. Big ratings!
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891. And we're gonna deliver,
you son of a bitch!
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892. Like, to this day, people
think that's who I am.
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893. That's why so many
people dislike me,
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894. hate me who don't
know me because
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895. they think I'm my character.
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896. Knock it off,
know your place.
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897. He put the belt on himself.
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898. He became
champion somehow,
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899. which I just thought was
kind of self-serving.
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900. I can't even imagine,
you know,
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901. what brought that on except
for childhood dream...
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902. that every one of us
have had.
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903. So, I get
Vince doing it.
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904. I don't think it
was a good idea.
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905. But, I get it, and he had
a lot of heat,
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906. you know, internal
and external.
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907. Bro, listen, I never
thought I was a wrestler.
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908. Again, this is a
television show.
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909. All I'm trying to do is
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910. entertain an audience.
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911. Bro, I should have never
gotten in the ring.
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912. I was really concerned
about my health.
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913. They were hurting me
on purpose.
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914. First of all, with Goldberg,
he's supposed to spear me
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915. into the entranceway.
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916. "Bro, I got a concussion.
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917. Like, just please work me
to the entranceway."
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918. What does he do, bro?
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919. He spears me right
into the iron rail.
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920. Whoa!
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921. Come on, come on, man,
like no question about it.
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922. If I wanted to
intentionally hurt him
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923. he'd be underground
right now.
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924. And anyone who
doesn't believe that
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925. doesn't know
anything about me.
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926. I think so, without a doubt.
Without a doubt.
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927. And that was it,
that, that spear,
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928. that was the one that
put me away, that was it.
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929. Why am I putting my health
on the line when, obviously,
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930. nobody gives a crap about
this company anymore?
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931. Russo! I'm here!
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932. And I'm waiting, Vince.
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933. So, the last show that
Vince Russo is credited
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934. to have written is the
October 2nd, 2000,
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935. edition of Monday Nitro.
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936. He gives an interview
the next day on WCW Live,
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937. lamenting everything that
was going on in the company,
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938. and then he's gone from the
picture after that point.
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939. This is Russo
in 2000, baby.
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940. Hulk Hogan...
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941. I don't give a damn.
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942. You think I care
about Eric Bischoff?
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943. I could give a damn.
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944. Ratings 2.7, 1.7, 0.7.
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945. I don't care.
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946. Vince Russo losing
his job next week,
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947. I don't give a damn.
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948. When I see this, and I
see that guy there,
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949. it really reminds me of how
much I hate the business.
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950. I mean, I'm gonna
be honest with you.
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951. I mean, there's a lot of
people that
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952. don't like me saying that.
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953. That's the fact
of the matter.
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954. It really brings me back
to the, the damage,
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955. emotionally, that this
business did to me.
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956. That's ab-
absolute truth.
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957. God honest truth.
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958. And then, those same
politics exist today.
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959. What is the
fate of WCW?
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960. We're talking about a
company that, at its peak,
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961. was generating in the
neighborhood of $200 million
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962. a year, and a huge
part of pop culture.
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963. It's a hit every
Monday every night.
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964. But it wasn't anymore.
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965. It was so bad!
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966. The bickering,
the in-fighting.
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967. We're Time-Warner.
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968. Is it that important to own
a wrestling company
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969. that's losing money,
bleeding massively?
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970. I'll sit and watch the
fucking thing sink
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971. from my fucking house.
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972. It didn't feel like
a family anymore.
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973. You had to look
out for yourself.
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974. What's gonna happen here?
Are they gonna stick with this?
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975. Are they not gonna
stick with it?
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976. I said, "Brad, why don't
you let me explore
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977. selling WCW while it still
has some value?"
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978. Going out!
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979. We thought we were coming
to work like a regular day.
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980. Do you know anything?
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981. And no one knew
until that night.
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982. Because the fate of WCW
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983. is in my hands.
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