1. Previously on The West Wing:
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2. Ever see Arnie Vinick campaign?
Up close?
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3. He'll go into those
high school gymnasiums...
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4. in Iowa and New Hampshire
and blow them all away.
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5. Shake every hand in the joint,
kiss every baby...
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6. hug every widow
on Social Security...
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7. and sound smarter and more honest
than any Republican they've ever seen...
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8. because he is.
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9. The New Jersey polls closed
three minutes ago, 9 p. m. Eastern time.
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10. And although we have
no official results yet...
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11. we can now report that our exit polls
indicate another huge win tonight...
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12. for California Senator Arnold Vinick
in the Republican presidential primary.
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13. New Jersey's Democratic presidential
primary is still too close to call.
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14. Vice President Bob Russell
was the favorite...
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15. in the final primary tonight.
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16. But our exit polls show
another very tight race...
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17. between Russell and
Texas Congressman Matt Santos.
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18. Russell was hoping for a win
in New Jersey...
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19. to prove a central campaign theme...
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20. that he is the only Democrat
who can actually win in November.
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21. A Santos win tonight would be
another big upset for the congressman...
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22. and leave him only about
100 delegates behind Russell...
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23. and hurt the Russell
electability argument.
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24. Neither will pick up
enough delegates tonight...
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25. to get the nomination...
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26. but a win in the final primary could
give Santos the momentum he needs...
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27. going into the Democratic
National Convention next month.
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28. As expected, Senator Vinick now has
the Republican nomination locked up.
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29. Reverend Don Butler
was the last man standing...
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30. against Vinick
in the Republican field.
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31. We're told that he'll concede
the race to Vinick...
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32. in a speech at his campaign
headquarters in Virginia.
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33. I've got Senator Vinick here.
Just a second, Reverend Butler.
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34. Hi, Don.
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35. Thanks.
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36. Hi, honey.
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37. Hey, Don, I'm gonna need your help
to bring the party together now.
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38. I'll wake you up early, and I'll help
you finish your homework then.
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39. - Okay. Love you.
- Yeah, sure.
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40. No, anytime.
Whenever you want.
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41. No, we'll clear the schedule for you.
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42. Okay, Don.
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43. - Butler wants a meeting.
- Great.
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44. We gotta move fast on VP,
show Republicans coming together...
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45. while the Democrats are fighting
for the nomination.
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46. I love Don. He's a great guy.
An honorable guy.
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47. He's the funniest on the list.
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48. But he beat me up pretty bad
on abortion during the primaries.
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49. How's he gonna walk back from that?
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50. He doesn't have to.
We don't want him to.
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51. You agree on most issues
and respectfully disagree on a couple.
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52. - A couple.
- Sign of strength.
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53. Not looking for a yes man.
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54. Shows I'm looking for someone to help
with the party's conservative base.
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55. That too.
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56. We're in Butler headquarters.
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57. Don Butler, a heartbeat away
from the presidency?
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58. Thank you! Thank you.
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59. Well, you win some, you lose some.
And we won some primaries.
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60. But Senator Vinick won some more.
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61. No. No, no.
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62. Now is the time for this party to come
together and take back the White House.
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63. - Sounds very vice presidential to me.
- He's a good soldier.
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64. I want to thank the Butler Brigade.
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65. Secret Service wants you
to start moving down to the ballroom.
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66. Sheila.
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67. Thanks.
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68. - As was anticipated, Senator Vinick...
- It's Vinick.
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69. Yeah.
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70. We go live now as he addresses
his supporters.
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71. Thank you.
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72. Thank you very much.
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73. We got nobody who can beat him.
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74. - Vinick! Vinick! Vinick!
- Thank you.
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75. We did it!
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76. Senator Arnold Vinick has the
Republican nomination locked up.
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77. But they've been counting votes all
night, and we still don't have a winner...
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78. in the New Jersey Democratic
presidential primary.
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79. The lead has been shifting. With
97 percent of the precincts reporting...
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80. Congressman Matt Santos has a lead
of less than 1000 votes...
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81. over Vice President Bob Russell.
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82. What are you doing?
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83. - You were sleeping.
- They're still counting New Jersey.
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84. - So what?
- So what?
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85. It doesn't matter who wins.
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86. No one's gonna have enough delegates
for the nomination.
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87. Come on, wake up
and smell the chaos.
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88. No candidate will win enough delegates
to secure the Democratic nomination.
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89. - I promised Tim I'd do the show.
- You will, just not this week.
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90. The more you're on TV now...
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91. the less they cover the
Democratic Party mess.
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92. That's the story we want this week.
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93. - I'll pull press events off the schedule.
- Fundraisers?
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94. - No press allowed.
- Excuse me, Senator Vinick.
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95. Don't take too many questions.
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96. Senator, when are you
gonna choose a VP?
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97. Hadn't really thought
about it.
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98. Would you rather face
Russell or Santos?
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99. I'm in no hurry to face anyone.
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100. Tell the Democrats they can
take their time figuring it out.
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101. Do you think your lead in California...
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102. gives you the lock
on the Electoral College?
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103. I have a lock on the
Republican nomination, nothing else.
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104. I won't take my state for granted.
I'll work hard to win California.
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105. - Work hard to win every state.
- Thank you.
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106. Senator, how can you cut taxes
and cut the deficit at the same time?
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107. I have a two-for-one plan.
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108. For every dollar we cut taxes,
we're cutting spending by $2.
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109. Drastic spending cuts in vital areas?
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110. You call it drastic, I call it necessary.
I'm for good government we can afford.
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111. - No more, no less.
- That's all. Thank you.
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112. What do you think of the deal
the city council's negotiating...
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113. - ... to keep baseball in the city?
- Ridiculous. Teams should pay.
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114. They can pay 80 million for a shortstop
but can't pay for their own stadiums?
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115. - Come on.
- Okay, we're done. Thank you.
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116. - Thank you.
- Senator, excuse me.
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117. Thanks. Now I'm gonna have
to give back my tickets to the game.
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118. - I had to pull a lot of strings to get them.
- Did you pay for them?
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119. - Of course.
- Forget about it. They're your seats.
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120. - Where are we sitting?
- No way. I only got two.
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121. - The kids fighting over who gets to go?
- Holly's got a biology test the next day.
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122. - Brendan's got practice, so...
- Tell Tina to bring her glove.
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123. I want her to catch a foul ball for me.
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124. Yes, Madam Secretary,
I have your memo.
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125. I see.
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126. Yeah, I unders...
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127. I'll give it to the president. Right.
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128. I understood the debt-ceiling situation
perfectly before I talked to her.
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129. Can we have a treasury secretary
who speaks English?
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130. - It's Santos.
- By how much?
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131. - Couple thousand votes.
- Santos won New Jersey?
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132. - Yeah.
- How many delegates?
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133. A press release on raising
the debt ceiling?
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134. - Because I don't understand it.
- No press release.
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135. When's the vote scheduled?
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136. Treasury thinks debt interest
will hit the limit tomorrow.
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137. They want the vote right now.
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138. - Which, of course, is a ridiculous idea.
- Of course.
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139. - The leadership wants it last minute.
- How crazy is that?
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140. They like to schedule at the last minute,
when we're about to default.
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141. That way, it's too dangerous
for any senator to try to stop it.
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142. Leaves time for a few speeches
about how awful it is...
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143. we maxed out the national credit card,
a vote to raise the card's limit.
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144. It's a one-sentence bill.
Change the seven to an eight.
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145. - Trillion.
- Yeah, trillion.
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146. Treasury wants the president to read
a 20-page memo on a short bill?
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147. - They run the worst-case scenario.
- In case it doesn't pass?
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148. The immediate collapse
of the U.S. economy...
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149. Japan sinking into the sea,
followed by a worldwide depression...
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150. no mortal can imagine.
Followed by week two.
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151. So this debt thing is routine
or the end of the world?
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152. - Both.
- Okay. That's it. Thanks, everybody.
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153. - We gotta do something.
- It's not the end of the world.
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154. - Just the end of a lifestyle.
- It's the end of the Democratic Party.
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155. We're facing a Republican
who can win California...
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156. and maybe 49 other states,
and who do we have? We have nobody.
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157. Going into a convention
without a candidate.
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158. See Broder's column today? He says
this is great for the Democratic Party.
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159. Yeah, he's on drugs.
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160. Conventions used to be
about picking a nominee.
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161. - Suspense.
- The networks are gonna love it.
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162. - They'll cover everything.
- Yeah.
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163. Instead of predictable emptiness,
all hell's gonna break loose.
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164. The good news is, the Dems
are in disarray.
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165. Bad news is we don't know
who we're against.
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166. - Santos, if we're lucky.
- Santos could be tougher than Russell.
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167. Santos couldn't even carry
his own his state.
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168. Santos won the big states.
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169. Russell's weak in Northeastern
urban women...
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170. suburban men, all minorities,
not to mention...
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171. Okay. How much do we need
for the ground game?
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172. We can't plan till we know
who we're against.
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173. They're both strong in different states.
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174. We can't wait till after the Democratic
Convention to build an organization.
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175. Yeah.
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176. Okay. Royce is here.
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177. - Where?
- Reception, waiting to see you.
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178. The majority leader
is coming to my office?
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179. Guess he wants to be
first in line for VP.
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180. Oh, boy. Here we go.
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181. - Okay, bring him in.
- Right.
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182. Mr. Leader.
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183. Arnie. I just wanna be the first guy
in the building to say congratulations.
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184. Didn't have to come all the way here.
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185. Cut it out, Arnie. You're the real leader
of this party now.
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186. I just want you to know
I'm at your service.
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187. Whatever you need me to do,
just say the word.
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188. Thanks, Bob. Have a seat.
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189. First of all, I can be very helpful
with fundraising.
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190. I have the highest yielding
direct mail list in town. Second...
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191. How many delegates
does Santos have?
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192. - 1599.
- So Russell's only 80 ahead.
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193. Seventy-eight. Russell's got 1677.
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194. - And Hoynes has 956.
- What's the magic number?
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195. 2162 gets you the nomination.
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196. Hoynes doesn't have a chance.
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197. He's betting
on the second or third ballot...
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198. the delegates will get shaky
about these newcomers.
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199. Move to the guy they've known.
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200. Before the convention, the party
will go through four weeks of chaos.
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201. Fighting over who will be on the platform
committee, what will be in the platform.
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202. - Who gets to speak on what night.
- Uncommitted delegates.
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203. Convincing committed delegates
to switch on the second ballot.
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204. While Vinick is looking
more presidential every day.
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205. Mr. President,
until we have a nominee...
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206. you are still the head of this party.
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207. Okay. Let's get Russell
and Santos in here.
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208. - And Hoynes?
- No. C.J.'s right.
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209. - He doesn't have a chance.
- You'll broker a deal?
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210. They're not ready for that.
Just a photo op.
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211. Remind people that we still know
something about running the country.
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212. Maybe a little less
about running a party.
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213. I don't feel comfortable about this.
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214. Everybody does it at this stage.
Bring in new people.
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215. Yeah, but a Democrat? I spent
the last six months fighting this idea...
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216. that somehow I'm not a real
Republican, then I bring in a Democrat?
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217. One step at a time. I'm just saying
we should meet with him.
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218. Governor Baker vouches that we can
trust him not to leak the meeting.
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219. - I don't know.
- He says he has a plan to win 50 states.
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220. Okay, bring him in.
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221. Bruno.
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222. Come on in.
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223. - Congratulations, senator.
- Thank you, Bruno. Have a seat.
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224. - Fifty states, huh?
- Sound crazy to you?
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225. Well, it did get my attention.
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226. Republicans have won 49 states twice
in the last 30 years.
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227. They've never had anybody...
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228. with as much independent
and cross-party appeal as you.
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229. I can't plan a 50-state campaign before
we know who I'm running against.
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230. Who told you that? Because if it is
somebody on your campaign staff...
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231. you gotta fire that person right now.
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232. I would run you from today
to Election Day...
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233. without ever mentioning
your opponent.
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234. This campaign should be all about you,
the reasons you should be president.
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235. And those reasons are exactly
where 60 percent of the voters are.
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236. Pro-choice, anti-partial birth,
pro-death penalty...
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237. anti-tax, pro-environment
and pro-business...
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238. pro-balanced budget.
I could go on and on.
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239. Oh, please do.
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240. You're in a unique position to run
a completely positive campaign...
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241. because most of the country
agrees with you on most of the issues.
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242. The only thing you could do
to ruin that now...
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243. is to pick Don Butler as your VP.
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244. So you tell me you're not even
thinking about that, I'll shut up.
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245. You've seen the papers. Everybody says
Butler's on the short list.
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246. Every talking head on TV says
that is brilliant...
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247. guarantees you a win, which it does,
but not a big win.
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248. I have to reach out
to the pro-life Republican base.
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249. We have to give them some reason
to come to the polls.
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250. I'm never gonna be that reason.
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251. There are many pro-life Republicans...
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252. who are more qualified for VP
than Don Butler.
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253. What do you know
about Republican politics?
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254. - I don't care about Republican politics.
- Well, that I believe.
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255. I don't care about
Democratic politics, either.
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256. Okay, I do care about the Democrats.
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257. Look, they don't know it yet.
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258. You are the best thing
to ever happen to them.
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259. You're moving the Republicans
away from the right wing.
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260. You're not saying Democrats
are not patriotic.
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261. You're just saying
that your approach is better.
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262. You are making politics
a fair fight again.
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263. What?
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264. You think I'm a spy?
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265. I snuck in here,
I'm trying to steer you wrong?
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266. The thought has crossed my mind.
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267. I have spent the last 20 years
ripping this country apart.
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268. Finding wedge issues
to separate the voters.
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269. You don't have to do that to win.
Not this time.
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270. You do this right, you can do
a lot more than win.
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271. You can stop using politics
to divide this country.
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272. You can show us how much we agree,
instead of how much we disagree.
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273. You can put this country
back together.
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274. - Please, C.J., it's a terrible idea.
- It's the president's idea.
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275. Can't you see it's an insult
to the vice president...
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276. - ... to bring them into his White House?
- His White House?
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277. The VP belongs here.
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278. The president is the party head.
He won't let it crash and burn now.
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279. This is his solution? A photo op?
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280. Remind voters we're good at running
the country, which the VP has a role in.
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281. Show everyone that the party
isn't in meltdown mode.
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282. Okay. Russell has to have a separate
photo op alone with the president.
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283. A shot of them discussing,
you know, affairs of state.
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284. No. We do this the president's way.
It'll be good for everyone.
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285. Russell can beat Vinick.
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286. He won twice as many states
and the most delegates.
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287. Santos has the momentum.
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288. Because he won New Jersey
by 1 percent? Russell is our best hope.
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289. He's been a good vice president.
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290. To bring the party together...
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291. - ... he should get behind Russell now.
- Ten a. m. tomorrow morning in the Oval.
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292. Most of the donors tonight are
from the pharmaceutical industry.
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293. You got the list?
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294. I'll give them my "how American
medicine saves the world" speech.
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295. Protect the patents, no price controls,
no Canadian imports.
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296. We got a lot of the energy industry
people tonight too.
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297. Yeah. When? Wait. Hold on a second.
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298. Hi, sweetie.
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299. - The area of a parallelogram is...
- Length times width.
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300. Length times width.
Same as a rectangle?
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301. Yes, that's the same as a rectangle.
No problem.
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302. Love you.
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303. Okay, I'm back.
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304. That's great. Thanks.
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305. You're meeting with the Reverend Butler
first thing in the morning.
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306. Do you think Bruno's right? That we
shouldn't put Butler on the ticket?
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307. Maybe. But we need Butler,
one way or the other.
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308. If he's not on the ticket, we still need
a strong endorsement from him.
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309. Now, these energy types
that will be there tonight...
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310. they wanna hear how you're
voting on the energy-deregulation bill.
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311. Well, it depends on what's in it
when it comes out.
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312. It's a very bad message to the
big contributors if you vote against it.
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313. Hey, if you can't drink their booze,
take their money...
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314. and then vote against them,
you don't belong in this business.
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315. Hey, glad you could both make it.
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316. - Mr. President.
- Mr. President.
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317. Annabeth, you can bring
in the thundering herd.
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318. Sit down.
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319. It's good to finally meet you,
congressman.
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320. - It's an honor.
- Congratulations.
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321. - Thank you, sir.
- Bob, thanks for doing this.
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322. A pleasure, Mr. President.
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323. All right, that's it. Thank you.
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324. - Thank you.
- Thank you.
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325. All right, listen up.
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326. This is a tough situation for you.
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327. I understand that.
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328. The press is geared up
for its favorite blood sport...
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329. Democrats attacking each other.
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330. And I know that's what some people
are gonna tell you to do.
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331. But we cannot allow that to happen.
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332. That would just hand over the election
to the Republicans.
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333. One of you is gonna be our nominee...
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334. so I want both of you to start acting
like the nominee right now.
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335. No attacks on each other.
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336. I'm gonna be watching.
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337. If I think you've overstepped
a line...
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338. I'll grab the nearest microphone
and say so.
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339. And don't be surprised if I endorse
the other guy while I'm at it.
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340. - Are we clear?
- Yes, sir.
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341. Smart move.
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342. If one of those guys had
Jed Bartlet's political instincts...
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343. I'd be 20 points behind.
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344. You read Ray Sullivan's file yet?
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345. Youngest U.S. attorney
ever confirmed by the Senate.
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346. Two-term state attorney general.
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347. Highest white-collar crime
conviction rate in the state's history.
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348. How much white-collar crime
is there in West Virginia?
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349. He had the guts to go after them.
That's what counts.
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350. Highest percentage of independents
ever to vote Republican in West Virginia.
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351. He won the governorship
with 62 percent of the vote.
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352. - Reverend Butler's here.
- Thank you.
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353. I just wanna be an honest broker here.
That's why I brought in Bruno.
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354. You needed to hear
what he had to say.
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355. Maybe you can win 50 states
his way...
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356. but if you choose Butler, you'll lock in
an Electoral College landslide today.
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357. Butler would scare away any Democrats
and a lot of independents.
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358. But you'd unite the Republican Party
while the Democrats are falling apart.
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359. - So you want Butler on the ticket.
- I just want you to hear...
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360. everything before making the most
important choice of your career.
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361. Ray Sullivan is the best man.
Don Butler is the best bet.
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362. Bring him in.
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363. Reverend Butler. Thanks for coming in.
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364. Hey, Arnie. Good to see you.
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365. Thanks for coming by.
I really appreciate it.
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366. You know, the Secret Service has me
feeling like I'm in solitary confinement.
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367. You think they got a tight leash
on you now...
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368. imagine what it's gonna feel like
when you move down the street.
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369. I hit you pretty hard
during the primaries.
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370. And I just want you to know
it was never personal.
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371. Abortion is not a political issue
with me.
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372. I know. I respect that.
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373. I've been thinking about how we
could work around our differences...
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374. and put them behind us and head
toward November together.
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375. That's funny. So have I.
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376. Don, I think you can help me take
the White House back for the party.
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377. You won states I never could win.
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378. I think in the general election,
with you on the ticket...
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379. Arnie, let me stop you right there.
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380. I suppose I could go along with you
on the environmental issues.
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381. We agree on oil drilling in ANWR.
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382. We could probably get closer together
on trade.
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383. Maybe split the difference
on textile tariffs.
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384. And we could just keep talking
tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts.
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385. Yeah. We're in lock step on that one.
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386. But then we come back to abortion.
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387. And I am here to tell you, Arnie...
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388. I do not respect your position
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389. and there's just no way in the world
I could run on a ticket with you.
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390. No way. You know, I wanted to be
a good soldier.
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391. I wanted to help the party.
I really did.
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392. I prayed on this one. Prayed a lot.
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393. And this is where I came out.
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394. This isn't easy for a kid who grew up
in a trailer in Appalachia.
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395. Finds himself within shouting distance...
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396. of the vice presidency
of the United States.
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397. Next in line. It's not easy.
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398. Well...
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399. You're kidding.
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400. Did you actually offer it to him?
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401. I tried to.
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402. - And he turned it down.
- No, he cut me off.
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403. He didn't let me offer him
something he would have to refuse.
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404. - He's a classy guy.
- What about an endorsement?
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405. It wasn't the best time
to ask him for it.
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406. Butler's live on MSNBC.
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407. Did Vinick offer you
a spot on the ticket?
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408. No, he did not offer me
a spot on the ticket.
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409. Did you discuss the vice presidency?
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410. I requested the meeting simply to let
the senator hear directly from me...
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411. that I have no interest
in running for vice president...
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412. and don't wanna be considered
for the ticket.
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413. Would you wanna be on the ticket if
Vinick changed his position on abortion?
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414. First of all, I'd get down on my knees
and thank God for performing a miracle.
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415. Then I'd have "Vote Vinick"
tattooed on my forehead.
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416. Reverend, will you pray for him
to change his mind?
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417. I'm sorry. You really surprised me
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418. You know, I never heard a good idea
from a reporter before.
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419. Yes. Yes, I will pray
for Senator Vinick.
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420. And he's welcome to come down
to my church any time he wants...
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421. and pray with me. Now, I'll be back
in the pulpit this Sunday.
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422. And there will always be a place for
the senator in the front row. Thank you.
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423. - One more question.
- Great.
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424. One more.
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425. How do we spin this thing?
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426. Say you fully respect
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427. that he's not interested in VP.
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428. Just keep repeating those four words:
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429. "Fully respect
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430. Five words.
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431. The Butler Brigade needs
to keep hearing that:
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432. "Respect, respect. " Then we hit them
with some direct mail pieces...
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433. about your opposition
to partial-birth abortion.
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434. Get Butler supporters
to vote for the lesser of two evils.
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435. - Thanks.
- Are we getting Butler's endorsement?
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436. - Don't know.
- Why not accept his invitation?
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437. - Go down to his church on Sunday.
- And?
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438. And pray for his endorsement.
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439. It's a great photo op.
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440. Yeah, it's a great photo op,
but he can't take any questions.
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441. - He always takes questions.
- I know.
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442. That's what all of us out here
in the cheap seats love about him.
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443. So...?
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444. "Senator, we know what
Reverend Butler prayed for.
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445. What did you pray for?"
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446. "Senator, do you think Reverend Butler
is wrong about abortion?"
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447. "Senator, will you remove opposition
to abortion from the party platform?"
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448. You ain't getting any questions about
how we pay for sports stadiums.
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449. So he shouldn't go to Butler's church.
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450. You can't play Butler.
He's not a politician.
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451. - Fooled me.
- Look.
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452. All I am saying is Butler's
gonna make a decision...
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453. to endorse you and rally his troops
or not.
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454. There's nothing you can do about it.
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455. - So, what do we do?
- You play the game you came to play.
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456. You don't play Butler's game.
You don't play anybody else's game.
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457. You do exactly
what you planned to do.
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458. Make a move on VP quickly,
show you're moving ahead...
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459. while the other side
is without a nominee.
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460. - Who's next on your VP list?
- Ray Sullivan.
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461. Good choice. Great resume.
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462. Crime-fighting prosecutor.
Budget-balancing governor.
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463. - Wins West Virginia for us.
- Get him in here today.
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464. Make the Sullivan meeting the story
instead of the Butler meeting.
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465. - Sheila?
- Works for me.
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466. - Okay. Set up the Sullivan meeting.
- Sounds risky.
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467. Not the craziest idea
from the Democrats.
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468. The president won't like it.
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469. It's the way to get
a minimum wage vote.
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470. But sticking an amendment
on the debt ceiling?
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471. They won't even try it
if the president says no.
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472. - When do they need an answer?
- You know, like, now.
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473. It's way too risky.
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474. But if the Democrats can force a vote
on the amendment...
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475. it puts the Republicans
in a tough spot.
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476. Don't wanna vote against
a minimum-wage increase...
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477. - ... in an election year.
- But they will.
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478. Most of them, yeah,
but what does Vinick do?
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479. Bad time for him to break
with his party...
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480. especially now that he has
this Butler problem.
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481. - Will he?
- He'll go where the voters are.
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482. DNC polls show 75 percent
in favor of raising minimum wage.
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483. And I haven't been able to get
the working-poor a raise in seven years.
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484. Could be your last chance.
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485. He'll vote for the cloture motion.
Doesn't mean he'll vote...
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486. against the minimum wage
if it comes to a vote.
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487. Okay.
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488. I know I said
we'd get there early.
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489. - But...
- I wanna see batting practice.
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490. Well, a couple things have come up.
You just hang on.
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491. Okay, George. Thank you.
I really appreciate it. Good.
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492. You have to go vote.
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493. - On what?
- Cloture motion.
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494. Democrats are trying to stick a minimum
wage amendment on the debt ceiling.
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495. Cheap stunt. What are they gonna do?
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496. Not raise the debt ceiling
if we don't raise the minimum wage?
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497. - It's a game of chicken now.
- Couldn't be more reckless.
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498. If they don't pass it...
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499. we're gonna have a lot more
poor people in this country.
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500. Don't they know what
a depression looks like?
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501. The minimum wage
would be the maximum wage.
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502. They're aiming at you, trying to separate
you from the party.
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503. Seems to be getting easier every day.
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504. Hey, look who's here.
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505. - Hey, senator.
- I'm counting on you bigtime.
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506. I can't vote, you know.
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507. I'm counting on your mother
to vote for me.
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508. I'm counting on you to catch me
a foul ball tonight.
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509. No way. If I catch one,
I'm keeping it.
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510. She can't give it to you.
It's a violation of Senate gift rules.
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511. - Gotta go now.
- See you later, Tina.
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512. - Bye, senator.
- We'll be right back.
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513. It's just a quick vote.
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514. We gotta get past the press
as fast as we can.
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515. - No Butler questions.
- Okay.
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516. - Senator.
- Senator.
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517. - Sorry, guys, he's got no time.
- Were you surprised at Butler's...?
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518. - Sorry. I gotta vote.
- You accepting his invitation?
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519. I really have to go. Sorry.
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520. Are you coming to his church
this Sunday?
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521. I think I'm gonna...
I have some TV commitments that day.
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522. Meet the Press is more important
than church?
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523. I don't know what my schedule
is on Sunday.
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524. - Get us out of here.
- Sorry.
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525. Going to another church on Sunday?
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526. Do you think doing Sunday TV is
more important than going to church?
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527. - Where do you go to church, senator?
- Senator.
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528. - Do you go to church at all?
- Senator.
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529. No, Mike, no one saw this coming.
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530. Vinick went from the candidate
who answered any question...
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531. to being the guy who won't even
tell us if he goes to church.
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532. - Let's round up the troops.
- Senator, do you go to church?
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533. Honey, we're kind of busy right now.
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534. We gotta get you to that game, right?
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535. I didn't really expect
to see batting practice.
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536. I haven't gone to church for a while.
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537. - I think you should.
- Yeah.
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538. Unless you don't believe in God.
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539. My best friend, Maggie,
doesn't believe...
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540. because her parents
don't believe in God.
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541. But she still comes to our church on
Christmas Eve to see the nativity play...
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542. because I'm always in it,
and she's my best friend.
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543. I gotta get back to work.
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544. Hang in there, honey.
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545. Right. Just so you know...
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546. our polling shows that if you were
to revise your position on abortion...
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547. - ... you would...
- Flip-flop on abortion?
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548. You would take 51 to 53 percent
of the vote...
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549. and a comfortable cushion
in the Electoral College.
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550. - Thanks, that's very helpful.
- Just thought you should know.
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551. One shot of you walking
into a church on Sunday...
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552. - ... to put this church thing behind us.
- Won't work.
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553. The press will ask,
"Why not go to Butler's church?"
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554. Then they'll ask you when was
the last time you went to church.
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555. I'm guessing wasn't last week.
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556. Been a while.
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557. How long?
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558. Counting weddings and funerals?
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559. Okay, everybody. Governor Sullivan's
gonna be here any minute.
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560. Let's clear out.
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561. Has it been years?
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562. You know where I am
Sunday mornings?
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563. I'm in here or at home,
doing my job...
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564. doing what I promised
the people of California I would do.
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565. Giving every minute I can.
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566. - How many years?
- I don't know.
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567. I used to go with my wife
every Sunday I was in California.
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568. Then when she got too sick to go,
you know, I stayed home with her.
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569. And after her funeral, I didn't wanna
go into that church again.
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570. So about five or six years.
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571. I'm not the only senator
who doesn't go to church.
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572. You're not just a senator anymore.
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573. Yeah. Okay. Put him through.
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574. It's Royce.
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575. Yes, Mr. Leader.
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576. I understand.
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577. Yes, he can handle that.
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578. We'll get him over there right away.
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579. He wants you to go see the president.
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580. - Governor Sullivan is here.
- Thank you.
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581. Royce is afraid they're not gonna pass
the debt-ceiling bill in time.
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582. Wants you to work out a deal
with the president...
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583. so the Democrats will let us pass
the debt ceiling before midnight.
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584. So five minutes with the governor,
then you'll go to the White House.
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585. Okay.
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586. - Governor Sullivan.
- Sheila.
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587. Hey, Ray. Great to see you again.
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588. - Good to see you, Arnie.
- Have a seat, please.
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589. - Thank you.
- I'm sorry. I gotta make this quick.
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590. The Democrats are jamming us up
with an important vote.
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591. Gotta go to the president,
straighten it out.
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592. Well, governing before politics,
that's my motto.
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593. - Really?
- No, I'm just kidding.
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594. Come on. Loosen up, Arnie.
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595. Everyone on TV tonight
is saying that this meeting...
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596. is about the vice presidency.
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597. Well, they're right for once.
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598. - Did you offer it to Butler?
- No.
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599. Good. I don't wanna be
anybody's second choice.
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600. You've seen this problem develop today
about my going to church.
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601. - You mean, not going to church.
- Yeah.
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602. That's all right.
I go enough for both of us.
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603. I've been reading about your positions
on a lot of things.
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604. But there are
some environmental issues...
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605. you haven't dealt
with in West Virginia.
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606. Here's the deal with the issues, Arnie.
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607. I can get in line with you
on everything except abortion.
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608. Nothing's gonna make me
change my mind on that.
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609. But I'm guessing
you wouldn't want me to.
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610. Toby, do you have a copy of the...?
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611. The president's waiting for you,
senator.
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612. Mr. President, I'd hate to think that
you were consulted by Democrats...
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613. about doing something
as irresponsible...
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614. as playing games
with the debt ceiling.
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615. Have a seat.
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616. But I'd like to think
they'd follow your leadership...
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617. if we could agree on a way
out of this mess.
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618. - You came to the right place.
- Good.
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619. What did you have in mind?
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620. Democrats withdraw
the minimum-wage amendment...
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621. from the debt-ceiling bill.
You pass the bill...
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622. then you give them a vote
on the minimum wage.
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623. You'll lose on the minimum wage.
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624. We might be able to shame enough
Republicans into doing the right thing...
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625. in an election year.
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626. How about you withdraw
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627. we pass the debt ceiling clean...
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628. and I round up enough Republican votes
to pass the minimum-wage increase.
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629. You can get that done?
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630. We have Republican senators
in seven states...
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631. with higher minimum wages
than the federal level.
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632. California, it's a buck-50 higher.
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633. We don't want jobs moving
to lower-wage states.
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634. I can get you the votes.
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635. - What do you want from me?
- I announce the deal.
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636. Democratic candidates for president
wouldn't be happy...
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637. watching you take credit for this.
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638. Well, then let them pass
the debt ceiling for you...
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639. and get you the
minimum-wage increase.
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640. Anything else?
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641. - Help me keep a secret.
- What's that?
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642. That I just gave you
more than you asked for.
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643. Let me hang around for a while...
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644. as if we're really slugging it out
in here.
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645. Can I get you anything?
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646. Where's the ice cream?
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647. I think I could live on coffee ice cream.
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648. Hardest thing about this job is knowing
this stash is down here 24 hours a day.
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649. - How's your health?
- Good days and bad days.
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650. Good days aren't as good
as they used to be.
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651. Kind of like a speeded-up
version of aging.
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652. - You've had better days, huh?
- Yeah.
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653. Whatever happened to separation
of church and state?
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654. It's hanging in there, but I'm afraid
the Constitution doesn't say anything...
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655. about the separation of church
and politics.
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656. You saying that's a good thing?
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657. I'm saying it's the way it is.
Always has been.
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658. You think the voter really needs
to know if I go to church?
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659. I don't need to know, but then I'm
not gonna vote for you anyway.
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660. It's not up to us to decide...
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661. what the voters get to use
in evaluating us.
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662. A little odd coming from someone...
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663. who wasn't exactly completely open
about his health.
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664. - That was a big mistake.
- Was it?
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665. What did we know about
Lincoln's health when he was running?
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666. Nothing.
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667. Washington, Jefferson.
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668. What about FDR's health?
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670. "Gee, why didn't he tell us
he was sick?" No.
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671. Did they say,
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672. No.
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673. I don't know how you plan to handle
this religious thing in the campaign.
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674. Yeah, well, that makes two of us.
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675. I could let it slip that I think
a candidate's religion...
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676. or how often he goes to church
isn't relevant to choosing a president.
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677. You'll say that on the way
into church?
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678. Are you accusing me
of politicizing churchgoing?
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679. You've had an awful lot of photo ops
on the church steps.
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680. I went to Mass every Sunday
long before I went into politics.
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682. Why'd you stop?
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683. One Christmas, my wife gave me a
very old edition of the King James Bible.
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685. It was a real find for a book collector.
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686. It was a thrill just to hold it.
Then I read it.
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687. You can't take it literally.
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688. That's what my priest friends
kept telling me.
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689. But the more I read it,
the less I could believe.
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690. I could not believe there was a God...
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691. who said that the penalty
for working on the Sabbath was death.
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692. I couldn't believe there was a God...
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693. who said the penalty
for adultery was death.
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694. I'm more of a New Testament man
myself.
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695. I couldn't believe that there was a God
who had no penalty for slavery.
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696. The Bible has no problem
with slavery at all.
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697. Lincoln could have used
a little help from the Bible.
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698. You think Lincoln was an atheist?
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699. I hope not.
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700. That would mean all his references
to God were just purely political.
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701. He didn't make any until he started
running for office.
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702. No, and he certainly was a doubter.
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703. What about you?
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705. Sorry.
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706. Let's just say I struggled
for a long time with that book.
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707. Finally, I just gave up the struggle.
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708. The only thing you can pray for
in this job...
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709. is the strength
to get through the day.
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710. You can try coffee if you want,
but prayer works better for me.
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711. Try the pistachio.
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712. Yes. We have reached an agreement
on the debt-ceiling bill.
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713. We will pass it within the hour
and send it to the president...
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716. We have a separate vote on the
minimum-wage increase tomorrow.
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717. - Is it gonna pass?
- Yes, it will.
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719. There'll be more than enough
bipartisan support to pass it.
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720. Are you reconsidering Reverend Butler's
invitation to his church this weekend?
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721. I fully respect
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722. I mean, I appreciate his invitation,
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723. Look, I respect Reverend Butler.
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724. And I respect his church too much
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725. That's exactly what I'd be doing
if I went there this Sunday.
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726. Because the truth is, it would just be
an act of political phoniness.
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727. I may be wrong...
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have enough political phonies in them.
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730. You can't have a separation
of church and state...
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731. if you have to pass a religious test
to get in this government.
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732. And I wanna warn everyone in the press
and all the voters out there...
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733. if you demand expressions
of religious faith from politicians...
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734. you are just begging to be lied to.
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735. They won't all lie to you,
but a lot of them will.
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736. It'll be the easiest lie they had to tell
to get your votes.
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737. So every day until the end
of this campaign...
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738. I'll answer any question anyone has
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739. But if you have a question on religion,
please, go to church. Thank you.
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