1. - Previously:
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2. It says Leo McGarry spent 28 days
in a substance abuse facility.
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3. This was obtained illegally.
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4. Records of these facilities
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6. I thought I'd kiss you.
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7. Then I'd be able to give my work
the kind of concentration it deserves.
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8. I voluntarily admitted myself to
the Tucson Rehabilitation Facility...
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9. to treat an addiction
to alcohol and Valium.
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10. Weather permitting, we'll be outside.
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11. - Meaning?
- No rain.
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12. - C.J.
- It's gonna be 22 degrees.
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13. - I know.
- Why do you...?
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14. This president is from New England.
Get used to that.
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15. That's what he said this morning.
What else do we have?
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16. The president will sign the bill
with 15 pens.
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17. Someone wanted you to know that.
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18. - C.J.
- No questions about the pens.
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19. I have a question about the pens.
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20. "Josiah Bartlet" has 13 letters.
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21. Danny, you are the only one
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23. 15 pens, 13 letters. They must
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25. He's gonna literally dot
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26. - Thank you.
- Freak boy.
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28. The parents of Lowell Lydell
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29. - Also added to the guest list are...
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30. - What is?
- The Lydells.
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like the president and...
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32. I've heard that too.
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33. He's signing hate crimes legislation.
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- I heard it too.
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36. - The Lydells are coming.
- They'll be available to the press?
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37. Where was I?
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38. Senators Breech and Larkin
will be attending as well.
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39. You've been a great audience.
Don't forget to tip your waitresses.
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40. - Shouldn't guarantee the Lydells.
- They're not coming?
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41. They are coming,
I'm not sure we want them.
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43. His son was killed.
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44. I do, at the signing.
The reticence he exhibited...
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45. - Listen to yourself.
- Meet them, tell me what you think.
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46. - You want me to audition the Lydells?
- And to cut me some slack.
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47. Dotting the I's, crossing the T's.
Thank you.
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48. - We do our homework.
- You misspelled "senator. "
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49. - We've got a sticky wicket.
- Don't say I'm working late.
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50. - I need you to read a report.
- I'm in my prime.
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for 100,000 new teachers.
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54. - Abstinence only?
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55. I'd have no trouble
passing such a class.
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56. We commissioned a report on sex ed
in public schools, and this is it.
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57. - What's it say?
- It's not good.
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58. How's it not good?
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59. It says teaching abstinence only
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60. People will have sex
even if they're told not to.
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- Abstinence Plus.
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63. - Sam's renamed it "Everything But. "
- "Everything But"?
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66. A regrettable pun.
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67. I can't remember the last time
I got home before midnight.
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68. By the way, pages 27 to 33? A couple
things every girl should know.
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70. - Want to have dinner?
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and not finding it funny.
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73. You'll have to date me.
You can't just grab me and kiss me.
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74. - You can, I won't mind.
- I didn't. You grabbed me.
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77. There's better things ahead,
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78. What do you want?
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79. An advance man for the VP took a Navy
chopper to Pebble Beach for 18 holes.
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80. - Are you kidding me? How do you know?
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81. - What kind of source?
- The anonymous kind.
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82. - I'll find out.
- Do it promptly.
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83. A pilot sat around on the taxpayers'
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86. No problem.
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87. - Josh. Did they burn the hamburger?
- I said well-done.
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88. He likes it beyond well-done, burnt.
Food's here.
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90. - Did you check?
- I'm not checking your food.
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91. No, no, I'll carry it.
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92. I like where,
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94. Stories we don't like, we give
to the press in a lump on Friday.
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Why not spread them out?
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96. They've got X column inches to fill.
They'll fill them, no matter what.
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98. - Five stories...
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- No one reads the paper on Saturday.
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100. - You guys are real populists.
- Salad's for C.J.
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101. An Alabama town wants to abolish
all laws except the Ten Commandments.
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- They'll have a problem.
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church and state.
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- I'm busy.
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- What is it?
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106. I just got asked to comment on a story
that's running in The Georgetown Hoya.
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107. The student newspaper?
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108. A professor is teaching what
the paper feels is racist stuff.
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109. - Funding for Head Start, welfare...
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110. - Zoey's in the class.
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111. This minute, The Georgetown Hoya.
Tomorrow...
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112. The president's daughter has
an idiot professor and...?
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113. - I'll talk to Zoey.
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115. Coveting thy neighbor's wife.
How do you enforce that?
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116. We never have our chats.
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117. - What chats?
- Our late-night chats.
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119. No.
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- Yes.
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122. - What do you think?
- Coveting is a problem.
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123. If I were arrested for coveting,
I'd probably bear false witness.
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124. This sex ed report could not come
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125. 100,000 teachers.
He's signing the Hate Crimes Bill.
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127. - I wish we'd known it was coming.
- That horse left the barn.
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128. Deal with it tomorrow.
What's this thing on the Hill?
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129. We're meeting with Bruno
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130. with jurisdiction over
the White House budget.
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131. - Is this about me?
- It's about me.
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132. I withheld information gained during
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- No.
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134. - It was the right thing to do...
- I know. You're going too?
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135. - Yeah.
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136. - I'm sorry to make you guys...
- Leo, please!
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137. - You don't know for sure.
- She just said she knew that for sure.
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138. - She said she knew it in her heart.
- I know it for sure.
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- Good evening.
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- We're just talking.
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This is not a place for gossip.
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I'm wrong about things in my heart.
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In Sam's office?
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148. - We'll need to ask Sam.
- I need Sam too.
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149. - Sam.
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and helicopter?
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152. - Chad Margrudian.
- Didn't he work for us?
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153. - Kept screwing up.
- How?
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154. He advanced the Puerto Rico trip
and spent a day scuba diving.
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155. On the New York trip, he got tickets
to something the president didn't see.
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156. - He's working for Hoynes?
- Played 18 holes at Pebble Beach.
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157. - Which he's supposed to do.
- But not take a Navy helicopter.
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158. - What does this have to do with us?
- We know who leaked the story.
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159. You remember Chad Margrudian?
He took a ride...
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160. - I already know. The golf?
- How do you know?
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162. - He gave it to you?
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163. - Was it the other way around? A joke.
- It better have been. What else?
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165. Her professor's teaching things.
We're getting her out of class.
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166. You can dump them both out with
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169. - You okay by yourself?
- Why wouldn't I be okay?
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172. Her name's Karen Larsen. She worked
in the vice president's office.
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on Hoynes, so they moved her away.
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- I'm glad you asked.
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176. - High enough.
- We found our man.
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177. - Talk with her when you get back.
- Yeah.
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importing bananas...
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that used to be European colonies.
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180. I don't want to talk about bananas.
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181. Did you say you wanted a banana?
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182. - I don't want one.
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183. - Yes, thank you.
- It's got potassium.
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189. - American companies sell the bananas.
- I'm in trouble with Chiquita?
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Yeah, it's mostly you.
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- Yes, sir.
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Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
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alarming number of Democrats...
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194. - ... have held up those appointments.
- I've been briefed.
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195. Their reluctance has little
to do with bananas.
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196. - I'm meeting people this afternoon.
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and on Julia Child.
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198. I was raised on Brideshead Revisited.
The legacies are safe in my hands.
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199. - You've got a problem?
- You watched cooking shows?
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200. - I watched Miss Julia Child.
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201. - C.J., Mandy mentioned the Lydells?
- Yeah.
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202. - You'll sit with them?
- This afternoon.
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I'm concerned about the father.
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that he doesn't say much.
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207. - He was killed because he was gay.
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who's ashamed that his son was gay.
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209. - Really?
- Fathers and sons, C.J.
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How enlightened will he be?
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- Sit and talk to them.
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- Is that it?
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- I haven't had a chance.
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- Yes, sir.
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Leo, don't go away.
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I don't want it.
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220. I don't want it for Leo.
I don't want it for us.
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222. Don't take anything off the table
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224. I'll probably spend much of my day
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225. - Godspeed.
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- How did you know that?
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228. I broke into your secret schedule
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230. - He's a good friend.
- No, he's not.
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231. - He's been a good friend to me.
- Which isn't hard when times are good.
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232. The measure of a man is, how does he
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234. That you couldn't get from me?
Toby, Josh, Sam, C.J.?
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235. I didn't mean that, Mr. President.
Your counsel is valued above all else.
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- Yes, sir.
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- Yes, sir.
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246. - Feels like we're on-the-record.
- We're off.
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247. - Never mind.
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249. - I have no objection to the kissing.
- I understand.
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250. - Don't think that it's a problem.
- There won't be any more kissing.
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support a law...
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of hate crimes...
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to a tree and threw rocks at him?
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- I know.
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260. - What about the advance guy?
- I'll tell you Friday.
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261. - Dumping it in the trash?
- He's a C-level aide. He's resigning.
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262. - Minding the people's business.
- A job you're suited for.
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263. - Goodbye.
- Okay. See you.
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264. Okay. You should go now.
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265. - I work here.
- Yes. Then I should go.
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267. This isn't a trial or deposition.
You won't be sworn in.
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268. You're not on-the-record.
There will be no record.
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269. I'm on the Appropriations Subcommittee
for White House budget and management.
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270. Many of my colleagues want hearings...
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271. to determine any wrongdoing
by the White House...
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272. in covering up Leo McGarry's
problems with alcohol and drugs.
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273. I want to see if we can avoid that,
as I'm sure you do.
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274. - Yes, sir.
- So, what happened?
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- Is he here?
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276. - Yes.
- Send him in.
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- Of course.
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278. - Trouble getting here?
- No.
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279. - How's Meredith?
- Spending all her time in the country.
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281. I know you're busy.
Why don't we talk about you?
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283. November 21, Congressman Lillienfield
announced in reckless fashion...
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284. that the White House
staff is on drugs.
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285. We were announcing our nominee
for the Supreme Court, so...
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286. You didn't wanna blow the moment.
You can speak candidly here, Josh.
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288. "Investigate" is a word
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- As a first glance.
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anyone knew of staffers using drugs.
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291. - Claypool subpoenaed the paperwork.
- Under the Freedom of Information Act.
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I wanna talk about it for a moment.
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295. They're up with Bruno's people,
trying to avoid a hearing.
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297. Josh and Sam are good,
and Bruno's a reasonable guy.
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298. There'll be a hearing.
It'll take months, it'll be awful.
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299. We'll hear stories about booze
and pills and God knows what else.
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300. The president has a budget to pass,
Mendoza to confirm...
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304. Yeah.
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resignation. He won't accept it.
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306. He's blinded by friendship and
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I know what it says.
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calls for my resignation.
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314. Won't get much attention, and it won't
distract from the president's agenda.
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315. I haven't seen you on the Sunday
morning talk shows in a while.
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- I hoped this would go differently.
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party and president...
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for Atlantic Oil?
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319. - I'm insulted by that.
- I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
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- After the midterms.
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- Yes.
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- Why?
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or to oppose it.
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331. - No hearings.
- The president won't do it.
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332. Yes, he will.
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333. Leo hasn't done anything wrong.
The hearings won't turn up anything.
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334. - We aren't scared enough to hold back.
- Stop it. Honest to God.
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335. It doesn't matter
what the hearing turns up.
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336. This one is drugs, so it's sexy.
This is Geraldo's dream come true.
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337. So don't get up with me, okay?
I am throwing you a rope.
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338. Something you should remember
when you're on Face the Nation.
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339. You can't get anything done
because Republicans are vindictive.
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340. This is what happens.
Teens in the White House.
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341. You screwed this up
from the beginning.
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342. You should've been there on McGarry,
and run an internal investigation.
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343. You come remarkably close to perjury
in the Claypool deposition.
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344. I'd like to hold hearings
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345. But I don't have that kind of time.
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346. Here's the phone.
I'm sure the president is waiting.
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348. Toby, your argument isn't with us.
We watch PBS. We like PBS.
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349. But we work for congressmen
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subsidizes television for rich people.
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351. It's not for rich people.
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is a fairly accurate reflection...
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makeup of the U.S.
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lower than 20,000 a year.
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356. 47% of PBS viewers have a
high-school education or less...
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357. 1 % better than the commercial TV
audience. What are we talking about?
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358. - Are they here?
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359. - Get Mandy.
- Where is she?
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364. - Is that what I think it is?
- Yes, sir.
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have touched a girl's... "
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367. - Not gonna say that.
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368. Not gonna say that.
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369. Excuse me, Mr. President.
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370. The Lydells are in the Mural Room.
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371. - Does C.J. know?
- She's waiting.
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372. - Mr. President?
- Go.
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375. - With you?
- Yes, sir.
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376. - No.
- May I ask why not, sir?
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377. Because I'd rather not be in therapy
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378. Very well, sir.
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379. I won't say that word.
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380. Mr. and Mrs. Lydell?
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381. I'm C.J. Cregg,
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382. Yes, how do you do?
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383. Sit. Thank you for coming
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384. so soon after this
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385. Glad to be here.
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386. That's why we've asked to talk to you.
It was Mandy's impression...
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387. that you and your husband
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389. I hate to have to put it so bluntly,
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390. We strongly support
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395. to be at all embarrassed
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396. I guess, let me just ask:
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397. - Yes, we do.
- No, we do not.
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398. No, that was really the last...
No, we do not.
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399. The Hate Crimes Bill is fine.
Who gives a damn? I don't care.
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401. but I don't give a damn.
It's fine.
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403. I don't understand how he can take
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404. Gays in the military,
same-sex marriage, gay adoption.
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not one day in uniform.
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soldier does he feel my son lacked?
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411. Lady, I'm not embarrassed
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- They'll be fine.
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- What?
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419. He made a reasonable point.
He has a right.
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- Yeah, maybe. Yeah.
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- They said they support the bill.
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- I know.
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425. - I'll go let them know.
- No, no. I'll do it.
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based on diaries.
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429. They show higher PBS viewing than
those gathered by the automated boxes.
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430. Why?
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431. People wanna seem more
sophisticated than they are.
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432. - That's right.
- There's one other thing.
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and Fuzzy Bear toys...
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434. - Fozzie Bear.
- Whatever.
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435. It's Fozzie Bear, not Fuzzy Bear.
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436. Licensing for this merchandise
brings in over $20 million a year.
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437. All of it goes to the show's producer,
the Children's Television Workshop.
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earns high six figures per year.
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439. Yet Sesame Street is subsidized
by taxpayer dollars.
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440. - That's a reasonable complaint.
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441. I don't care.
We're gonna see to all those things.
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442. But when the public is concerned
about sex and violence on TV...
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443. we're gonna protect The Muppets.
We're gonna protect Wall Street Week.
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444. We'll protect Live from Lincoln Center
and we'll protect Julia Child.
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- Hang on.
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447. - Good news.
- What?
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448. Josh and Sam cut a deal.
No hearing. Leo's out of the woods.
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449. Toby, that's great.
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450. I gotta get back in there,
this is too much fun.
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wants to pass a law...
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452. saying if I don't honor my father,
I go to jail.
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if you're honoring him?
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- I know.
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458. The advance man you ratted out
works for the vice president now.
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459. - Screwed yourself.
- I didn't...
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460. Trying to win one
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liaison and two reporters.
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story. I think something else.
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Look at me.
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file to Lillienfield and Claypool?
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470. - Oh...
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471. - Mr. Claypool is a family friend...
- Cathy!
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while she cleans out her desk.
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out of the building in 15 minutes.
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but I'd like a banana.
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475. - I'm afraid not, sir, no.
- Why not?
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476. - I offered one, and you were snippy.
- I wasn't snippy.
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C.J.'s waiting.
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we have an obligation...
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- I was hoping you would.
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the report came back...
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509. We got it, we're looking at it.
Throw it out with the trash.
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- Thanks, C.J.
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- I wasn't.
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523. You got a story in the trash that
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- I always took a lead. Not from you.
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- No, you won't.
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- Yes, you have.
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- Yeah.
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- Yes, sir.
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- I don't know.
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I want 10 drinks.
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- I know. It's okay.
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It's very hard to understand.
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572. You have all these important decisions
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