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- Pleased to meet you.
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- Like this conversation's going
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of your entire home.
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my parents, I was—
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maybe I was about ten?
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- Your trivia, like,
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extremely appealing, yes.
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after a trip to the bathroom.
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- But when I did it
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it didn't land.
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- Cheap Chick in the City.
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- Cheap Chick in the City.
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- Cheap Chick in the City.
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um, Karth— Karthreiser.
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any aspect of this space
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This is where it would happen.
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- Oh, my gosh!
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spices they have, the garlic...
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- When you show up
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it'll feel just like this.
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you can forget where you are.
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surreal at times because...
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trying to get the—
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- Yep. Yes.
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their trivia sheet and drinks
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put her in a good mood,
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401. since she normally
shows up at trivia
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402. complaining about something.
Copy !req
403. My roommates are driving
me crazy, and just,
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where you're like,
Copy !req
405. "You don't need to be rude."
Copy !req
406. I think it's just, like,
we're all human beings here.
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trying to joke with her
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408. to lighten her spirits.
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409. I would guess I would say, um...
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410. I'm gonna probably
give you a little buzz tonight
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411. because I'm sure someone's
plucking your nerves today.
Copy !req
412. Okay, is that a joke?
Or just a line—
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413. - It'll be more of a joke.
- Okay.
Copy !req
414. For every way Tricia
could react, I would input
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415. a planned response
from Kor
Copy !req
416. into specialized
flowchart software.
Copy !req
417. - Hey.
- Hi, Trish the dish.
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418. How you doing?
Copy !req
419. This would allow us
to chart the optimal path
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420. through the evening.
Copy !req
421. Are you— Are you starting
with presidents?
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422. - No, I'm starting with twins.
- Oh, you went twins and then
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423. - go to presidents?
- I started with twins
and I connected to—
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- Yeah.
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426. A decision tree
that would guide us towards
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427. key milestones and help us
avoid pitfalls.
Copy !req
428. - Hey. Hi, man.
- Hi. Trish the Dish.
Copy !req
429. Kor had told me
there was a chance Tricia could
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430. misinterpret his invitation
as a sign of romantic interest.
Copy !req
431. I mean, she's a single person
and I guess...
Copy !req
432. uh, that after all these years,
I'm inviting her by myself.
Copy !req
433. Right.
Copy !req
434. You know
I don't drink very much,
Copy !req
435. you trying to get me drunk?
Copy !req
436. But when we ran
that simulation,
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437. he gave confusing signals.
Copy !req
438. You're leaving your hand
touching hers right there.
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439. Well, if I move it then
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440. it's gonna bring
more suspicion to it.
Copy !req
441. I mean, how as a woman,
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442. how would you take that?
If you touched
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and he just left it there.
Copy !req
444. She could read that
as you flirting back.
Copy !req
445. Right.
Copy !req
446. So, I had Kor practice
some standard defenses
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447. to any advance she might make.
Copy !req
448. I think it's really
nice of you to get me a drink.
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449. I feel like it's um...
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450. Just, yeah, it's nice
to go like, come and...
Copy !req
451. But, of course,
all this was designed
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452. to lay the perfect foundation
for him to confess his lie.
Copy !req
453. - to confess his lie.
Copy !req
454. Did I tell you what happened
with my laptop?
Copy !req
455. - No, no idea.
- Yeah, so, I—
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456. The other day
I went to switch it on
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457. and it just didn't switch on,
and like, it was, you know that
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458. thing of— I was in the middle
of writing something,
Copy !req
459. so I'm thinking I'm gonna lose
the pictures that are in there—
Copy !req
460. Well, it's funny that you think
about losing, I wanted—
Copy !req
461. - This might—
- It sounds heavy, but actually,
Copy !req
462. don't worry because I—
This story turned around,
Copy !req
463. like, I didn't actually end up
losing the photos
Copy !req
464. and the stuff, but I did have
to take it to get it fixed.
Copy !req
465. Kor, I think you need
to take control
Copy !req
466. of the conversation,
she's not gonna
give you an opening.
Copy !req
467. - Oh, okay.
- If you just
let her talk
Copy !req
468. she's just gonna
keep talking, right?
Copy !req
469. I'll try just one more time.
To see if I can find another
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470. pattern into breaking
into the conversation.
Copy !req
471. Okay. Try it.
Copy !req
472. Like, he just couldn't make
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473. any kind of conversation
Copy !req
474. and like, he suddenly said
like, something
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475. about, like,
pineapple being a member
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476. of the citrus family, and like—
Copy !req
477. My educational situation
is a fraud.
Copy !req
478. - What?
Copy !req
479. But just starting
his confession
Copy !req
480. wasn't the only challenge.
Kor was most worried
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481. about the aftermath.
Copy !req
482. So, our entire approach had
to be planned around the format
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483. of this particular trivia night.
Copy !req
484. Well, there's, uh, um, usually
six questions per round,
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485. it's about four rounds.
After round two, they usually
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486. have a ten to 15-minute break.
Copy !req
487. We're gonna take a ten-minute
break, and I'm gonna add up
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489. And then during that time,
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490. uh, sometimes we would order
some pizza.
Copy !req
491. Here are your two tickets
for pizza.
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492. The ideal thing would be to
talk about it for five minutes
Copy !req
493. and then, yeah, move on.
I don't want to linger,
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494. I just wanna say it and then
pretty much have it dropped.
Copy !req
495. So, you don't have
a master's degree?
Copy !req
496. No. I just don't want you
to send me any more information
Copy !req
497. - about jobs that
have a master's degree—
- Definitely not gonna do that.
Copy !req
498. Like, I really wanna
understand like, why—
Copy !req
499. How did we end up here?
Copy !req
500. So, you just wanna
shut it down.
Copy !req
501. I wanna shut it down.
So, at least if I do it toward
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502. the end, then the benefit
is I can leave if I think,
Copy !req
503. "Okay, too hairy,"
and say, "Oops,
Copy !req
504. I have an appointment to go to,
sorry, I have to go."
Copy !req
505. I don't owe you an explanation
for that, I really don't.
Copy !req
506. I owe you an apology
for putting you through that,
Copy !req
507. but I don't feel
I owe you an explanation.
Copy !req
508. All right, well, can we like,
discuss it after the trivia?
Copy !req
509. I don't wanna discuss it
any longer about the situation.
Copy !req
510. So, I'd rather say it at least
after the last round,
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511. - but before the scores.
Copy !req
512. All right, start finishing
up your ballots
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513. and bring them up to score
when you're ready, all right?
Copy !req
514. But as soon
as we started incorporating
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515. full rounds of trivia
into our rehearsal,
Copy !req
516. - it revealed a problem.
Copy !req
517. What is the number on the roof
of the bus in Speed?
Copy !req
518. - What...
- Wow!
Copy !req
519. is the number on the roof
of the bus in Speed?
Copy !req
520. Kor became entranced
by the game,
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an answer,
Copy !req
522. he couldn't focus
on anything else.
Copy !req
523. That's right, I'm gonna lose
some points on this one.
Copy !req
524. - Yeah.
- I thought I would have known,
Copy !req
525. uh, who hosted Wheel of Fortune
Copy !req
526. - before Pat Sajak.
- Okay.
Copy !req
527. And I had 10,000 names
in my head but I couldn't
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528. - pinpoint anybody.
- Sure.
Copy !req
529. Okay, well, do you wanna go
into the confession?
Copy !req
530. Or do you wanna try that or...
Copy !req
531. Uh... It's the option...
Copy !req
532. And he grew frustrated
that the stress of having
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533. to confess this lie
was affecting his trivia game.
Copy !req
534. I'm not gonna take the chance
to miss good questions
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535. because I'm having this burden,
Copy !req
536. 'cause we can
actually just lose points
Copy !req
537. because the concentration
is off—
Copy !req
538. Right, but who cares
if you lose the game?
Copy !req
539. You got this off your chest,
Copy !req
540. I mean, it's just one night
of bar trivia.
Copy !req
541. No. One night of bar trivia
is sacrosanct to us.
Copy !req
542. And that's when
he told me that
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543. if it wasn't going well
on the actual trivia night,
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544. he might bail
on the confession entirely.
Copy !req
545. No, I would not— I'm
not sacrificing trivia night.
Copy !req
546. - Not for that, no.
- Isn't it just for fun?
Copy !req
547. - Like everyone's drunk, right?
- No.
Copy !req
548. Then I'm gonna
have two things against me,
Copy !req
549. I mess up a good trivia night
and I, um, lied to her.
Copy !req
550. So, to me, I gotta take one
of them out of the equation.
Copy !req
551. - Okay.
Copy !req
552. I had gone
to incredible lengths
Copy !req
553. to eliminate all uncertainty
Copy !req
554. from the night.
But the only way to know
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555. the actual trivia questions
that the real host
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some sort of cheating,
Copy !req
557. and that would be unethical.
Copy !req
558. But maybe it's more unethical
to leave things to chance
Copy !req
559. when there's something
you could have done.
Copy !req
560. - So, posing as the
founder of the popular blog
Copy !req
561. Thrifty Boy, I arranged
an interview
Copy !req
562. with the real trivia host at one
of the other bars he hosts at...
Copy !req
563. - Hey.
- Oh, hey. Nice to meet you.
Copy !req
564. under the pretense of doing
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565. a Thrifty Boy
trivia night feature.
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566. Now, is it mandatory
to buy drinks?
Copy !req
567. Because our readers really
don't like to spend money.
Copy !req
568. There's— We have not had
a problem with having
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569. people forced
to buy drinks or food.
Copy !req
570. And does the bar charge
for seltzer water,
Copy !req
571. or is that free?
Copy !req
572. That's up to each
individual establishment.
Copy !req
573. - And to— I think...
- Very cool, okay.
Copy !req
574. I told him we wanted
the profile to include
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in which he would
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576. read the questions
for the Alligator Lounge's
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578. to camera, so our readers
could play along
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579. at home for free.
Copy !req
580. What conflict began in 1789
Copy !req
581. and led to the beheading
of Louis XVI?
Copy !req
582. It was one thing to get
the trivia questions
Copy !req
583. for the big night, but making
sure Kor knew the answers
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584. would be its own challenge.
Copy !req
585. So, I don't know why
Archie had trouble choosing them
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586. except for the personality
Copy !req
587. cause they look physically
the same.
Copy !req
588. I knew that cheating
at trivia was something
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589. Kor doesn't tangle with.
Copy !req
590. Have you ever cheated at trivia?
Copy !req
591. No.
Copy !req
592. So we started going
on daily walks just to chat
Copy !req
593. about life, but I was actually
using these casual strolls
Copy !req
594. to covertly implant
every single trivia answer
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595. into Kor's brain
without him knowing.
Copy !req
596. If you ever need to get in,
the code is 1789.
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597. Oh, okay.
Copy !req
598. Like the year
the French Revolution started...
Copy !req
599. - Yes.
- ... in 1789.
Copy !req
600. - I'm not a big summer person.
- Uh-huh.
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601. - And I'm not a big...
- Oh, shit!
Copy !req
602. - ... spring person.
- It's all over my DKNY pants.
Copy !req
603. Donna Karan New York, DKNY.
Copy !req
604. - Only in New York.
Copy !req
605. Building's looking pretty tall.
Copy !req
606. It is tall, but it's not the
tallest building in the world.
Copy !req
607. That'll be
the Burj Khalifa in Dubai.
Copy !req
608. - The Burj Khalifa? Huh.
- Yup. The Burj Khalifa.
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609. Tallest building.
Copy !req
610. - What's going on here?
- It's a hostage situation,
Copy !req
611. guy has four people at gunpoint.
Copy !req
612. Shot someone
in the head on his way in.
Copy !req
613. Oh, my God! That's nuts.
Copy !req
614. - Oh, my gosh.
- It's days like these
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615. that I curse the Chinese
for inventing gunpowder.
Copy !req
616. - Wow!
- That's crazy. Oh, my God.
Copy !req
617. Well, good luck to you, sir.
Good luck with the whole
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618. - process.
- Oh, my God.
Copy !req
619. - Prayers for the family.
Copy !req
620. With just three days
to go until Kor would meet up
Copy !req
621. with Tricia at the real
Alligator Lounge, I had over
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622. 30 actors occupy the space,
playing customers, servers.
Copy !req
623. We had real beer on tap
and even a working simulation
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624. of their pizza oven.
Copy !req
625. Each time we ran
through the night, new variables
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626. were introduced that he would
have to adapt to.
Copy !req
627. With a special focus
on the moment
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628. when he'd be confessing.
Copy !req
629. I gotta tell you something,
and it's been eating
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630. - at me for years.
- Oh, yeah?
Copy !req
631. Hey guys, how we
doing over here?
Copy !req
632. - Good.
- I'm fine, thank you.
Copy !req
633. Can we get you another drink?
Can I get you a drink?
Copy !req
634. - I think we're good.
- Okay, Kor, so you probably
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635. don't want the interruption
happening during the confession,
Copy !req
636. so maybe you make sure
your drink isn't empty
Copy !req
637. - at this point in the night.
- Okay.
Copy !req
638. - Right? So, maybe tiny sips.
- Right.
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639. - Can you just take tinier sips?
- I got it, take tiny sips.
Copy !req
640. We ran through
the entire night 13 times.
Copy !req
641. But unlike real life, in here,
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642. you can always hit
the reset button
Copy !req
643. and start over.
Copy !req
644. It was the one place on earth
you couldn't fail.
Copy !req
645. Orange juice, no pulp.
Copy !req
646. Hope you don't mind?
Copy !req
647. I decided to give you
a little buzz.
Copy !req
648. I decided to...
give you a little buzz.
Copy !req
649. It's something that's been
eating at me for a long time.
Copy !req
650. Oh, yeah?
Copy !req
651. It's been eating at me
for this—
Copy !req
652. forever, and I wanna...
Copy !req
653. I just wanna tell you.
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654. - No pulp.
- Okay.
Copy !req
655. I gotta tell you something.
Copy !req
656. This has been
eating at me for years.
Copy !req
657. My whole educational status
has been a scam.
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658. Just based after my childhood,
Copy !req
659. I guess there's some
issues there. Some insecurities
Copy !req
660. I haven't been able
to face until now.
Copy !req
661. As we neared the end,
Kor seemed to be testing
Copy !req
662. new approaches,
Copy !req
663. but that didn't mean
Tricia always took it well.
Copy !req
664. I don't understand
why you felt the need to lie
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665. about your education.
I mean, it's really messed up.
Copy !req
666. - I—
- For years,
Copy !req
667. we were trying to help you
get a job 'cause you said
Copy !req
668. you had a master's degree,
and that was all bullshit!
Copy !req
669. - Well, I was just trying to—
- Is this what you think
Copy !req
670. a friendship is? Like, you have
no respect for me, no respect
Copy !req
671. for my time. I don't give a crap
about your education.
Copy !req
672. But—
Copy !req
673. but 12 years of deception,
that's— Twelve years!
Copy !req
674. It's unforgivable.
I don't wanna talk to you again.
Copy !req
675. Please don't go.
Copy !req
676. He lied about
having a master's degree.
Copy !req
677. I just heard their conversation.
Copy !req
678. No master's degree?
Copy !req
679. This guy is such a fraud.
Copy !req
680. Who doesn't have
a master's degree?
Copy !req
681. And the loser
of tonight's trivia is...
Copy !req
682. Kor Skeet.
Copy !req
683. Are you sure
you wanna do this? For sure?
Copy !req
684. Well, it still felt good
that I got it off my chest,
Copy !req
685. even if it means I might lose
a friendship in the process.
Copy !req
686. Like... I don't think
it'll go that bad.
Copy !req
687. - Oh. Mm-hmm.
- But...
Copy !req
688. I'm literally
going into the unknown,
Copy !req
689. the pit of the alligator, and...
Copy !req
690. he's gonna swallow me up
or let me go free.
Copy !req
691. We had planned
for Kor to get there early
Copy !req
692. to secure his chosen table.
But when he arrived,
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693. there was a problem.
The table was taken.
Copy !req
694. Fortunately, we had rehearsed
for this exact scenario.
Copy !req
695. Sorry to bother you,
my grandmother died of like,
Copy !req
696. - brain cancer recently...
- Same.
Copy !req
697. and this— Terrible thing.
This table here
Copy !req
698. - is like a sentimental thing.
Copy !req
699. Um, I know you're all
settled here but would you
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700. consider to moving
to another area?
Copy !req
701. - I know it sounds outrageous.
Copy !req
702. - Yeah, if you want.
- Oh, that'd be nice of you.
Copy !req
703. - Thank you so much.
- No worries.
Copy !req
704. - Oh, I'm so sorry about that.
Copy !req
705. - Do you have any orange juice?
- Yes.
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706. Do you have it with no pulp?
Copy !req
707. - Thank you so much.
Copy !req
708. Thank you so much.
Copy !req
709. Hello!
Copy !req
710. - Hey!
- Trish the dish.
Copy !req
711. - Gosh!
- Now what?
Copy !req
712. - I decided to get you a rum
and coke, a little buzz.
Copy !req
713. 'Cause I'm sure everyone's
been plucking on your nerves,
Copy !req
714. - or someone you know—
Copy !req
715. - I can understand that.
Copy !req
716. As expected,
Tricia showed up
Copy !req
717. not in the best of spirits,
Copy !req
718. but Kor knew exactly what
to talk about to cheer her up.
Copy !req
719. - Um, the Bush twins.
Copy !req
720. - Yeah, Jenna and Laura.
Copy !req
721. They're the only two children
of a president, that are twins.
Copy !req
722. - With all the presidents,
Copy !req
723. - sometimes having eight
or nine kids.
Copy !req
724. - And none of them had
twins within that range.
Copy !req
725. - Not even stillborn twins,
not even like in that situation.
Copy !req
726. So he's the only one.
Copy !req
727. Kor was sticking
to the script,
Copy !req
728. and it was working.
Copy !req
729. He's the earliest
president we have that had
Copy !req
730. like— has grandchildren still
living from that generation.
Copy !req
731. That is so crazy.
Copy !req
732. And before long,
it was time for trivia.
Copy !req
733. Ladies and gentlemen,
boys and girls,
Copy !req
734. the moment
you all have been waiting for,
Copy !req
735. we're gonna start
playing trivia.
Copy !req
736. What mode
of transportation places
Copy !req
737. the rider in a laid-back,
reclining position,
Copy !req
738. distributing the rider's weight
comfortably over a large area?
Copy !req
739. Uh, these freaking recumbent
bikes are everywhere.
Copy !req
740. What mode of transportation
Copy !req
741. places the rider in a laid-back
reclining position,
Copy !req
742. distributing the rider's weight
comfortably over a large area?
Copy !req
743. Probably a train.
I think Amtrak did that
but I'm not sure.
Copy !req
744. Uh... Or it could be a bike,
Copy !req
745. or something like that,
one of those reclining bikes?
Copy !req
746. But you don't really,
recline the seat of a bike,
Copy !req
747. - right?
- Yeah.
Copy !req
748. Kor was slightly off
on the first question,
Copy !req
749. and I was worried these answers
weren't fully absorbed
Copy !req
750. into his brain.
Copy !req
751. The correct answer
to that is a recumbent bike.
Copy !req
752. - This is like, really—
- Yeah, I knew it was a bike.
Copy !req
753. But I— I know— I've seen it,
but I couldn't imagine the name.
Copy !req
754. I've, uh—
I've heard the name.
Copy !req
755. I wouldn't know the name.
Copy !req
756. But then,
things started to turn around.
Copy !req
757. The correct answer
is the French Revolution.
Copy !req
758. - Look at you!
Copy !req
759. The correct
answer, gunpowder.
Copy !req
760. And the correct
answer to that
Copy !req
761. is called Burj Khalifa.
Copy !req
762. Good!
Copy !req
763. It was an amazing streak
that continued until the end
Copy !req
764. of round four, and he seemed
to be brimming with confidence
Copy !req
765. by the time he got up to hand
in his score sheet,
Copy !req
766. marking the start of his window
to come clean.
Copy !req
767. - Thank you. I'll be right back.
Copy !req
768. In our fake bar,
we had practiced an option
Copy !req
769. where he would
get pizza for both of them
Copy !req
770. right after the fourth round,
Copy !req
771. so it would be easier
for him to initiate
Copy !req
772. the confession while her mouth
was full,
Copy !req
773. and since
she was in a chatty mood,
Copy !req
774. it seemed like
he had decided to go for it.
Copy !req
775. Two cheese pizzas, please.
Copy !req
776. Two cheese?
Okay, ten minutes.
Copy !req
777. - Okay.
- But then,
something happened.
Copy !req
778. When he returned
to the table
Copy !req
779. to wait for his pizzas,
Copy !req
780. Tricia wasn't talking.
It was the perfect opportunity
Copy !req
781. to begin his confession,
but for some reason,
Copy !req
782. he wasn't doing it.
Copy !req
783. - Yeah. Yeah.
- Okay.
Copy !req
784. The pizza tastes better after
a certain, uh, period of time,
Copy !req
785. the pizza's good but then,
after a couple of rounds,
Copy !req
786. it really hits it in...
Copy !req
787. Hits it to the last spot.
Copy !req
788. Especially after a couple
rums and cokes.
Copy !req
789. And as the clock
kept ticking, he just sat there.
Copy !req
790. In this case, ask over the lady
Copy !req
791. who'd take the pizza,
the faster it comes.
Copy !req
792. Oh, my gosh.
Copy !req
793. You know, there's been,
uh, something on my mind
Copy !req
794. - I've had to deal with and um...
Copy !req
795. - You know, uh, maybe it's there?
- That's right.
Copy !req
796. Hang on a second.
Copy !req
797. Okay. Okay.
Copy !req
798. Almost around the corner.
Copy !req
799. - What's up?
- Hmm. They ring the bell,
Copy !req
800. they're getting closer
to making the pizza.
Copy !req
801. Well, I guess so. Now what
were you saying before?
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802. I feel bad that— This has been
bothering me a long time
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803. - to tell you this.
- What's that?
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804. Um, my whole educational life
has been, like, uh,
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805. - kind of a fraud.
- Really?
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806. Yeah.
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807. See, remember when I was showing
pictures of my graduation
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808. - a couple years ago?
- Yeah, sure.
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809. In front of the gang
and everything like that?
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810. - Yeah.
- And then you asked at the time,
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811. um, said that I got
a master's degree.
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812. - Mm-hmm.
- And I...
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813. - And I kinda went along with it.
- Really?
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814. - Yeah.
- Wow.
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815. I felt kinda bad because
I didn't wanna level with you
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816. - about that.
- Okay. Well...
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817. I was only going
for my bachelor's degree
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818. at the time.
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819. It's still pretty impressive.
I mean, you know, lots of people
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820. - don't have master's degrees.
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821. - Yeah.
- It's cool,
I'm not surprised,
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822. but like, 'cause I thought you
had a master's but...
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823. - Hang on a second, one second.
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824. Yeah, thank you.
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825. - Two cheese?
- Yes. Thank you.
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826. So, wow. I didn't realize
you didn't have
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827. your master's degree,
'cause I thought you did.
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828. - That's what you said before.
- Yeah, yeah, I've—
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829. See the thing is that, um,
what made it worse
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830. was I came into the group,
the trivia group...
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831. - Mm-hmm.
- ... I was, like, the last person
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832. that even had
a college degree.
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833. - Mm-hmm.
- And I kinda
felt like inferior
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834. - about that.
- That's so silly,
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835. don't you feel upset about that.
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836. Lots of people
barely even finish high school.
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837. My sister only got her GED
like two years ago.
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838. You know?
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839. Well, I just, um, you know,
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840. and I kept that lie going on
all that time.
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841. And it kinda ate at me and then,
you helped me, you know,
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842. apply for jobs, so it actually
went that far to even
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843. send my résumé
just to appease you.
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844. Oh, wow, I appreciate that
so much, I had no idea.
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845. And I feel— You know? I just...
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846. My friendship with you means
a great deal.
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847. - Me too.
- And I don't want you
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848. to think that I would
even continue lying to you.
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849. But you know, I've been living
this lie all this time and
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850. - I kinda felt bad about that.
- Well, it's so sweet to finally
tell me, I had no idea.
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851. But, like— It's, you know,
it's very brave of you
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852. to tell me this,
and I really had no clue.
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853. Instead of trying
to move on to another topic,
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854. Kor sat with her for the next
hour-and-a-half and began
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855. sharing things that he had
never told Tricia
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856. in their nearly 20 years
of friendship.
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857. And my father used
the situation where he sent
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858. the child support, which could
be for my college education,
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859. - for me and my sister.
- Wow!
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860. And by the time we came of age,
he doesn't wanna pay for it.
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861. Wow, that's rough. I'm sorry
to hear that. I really am.
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862. And what made it worse was
when I was graduating...
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863. While we were practicing,
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864. I also had Kor
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865. rehearse the aftermath
of his confession
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866. beyond the actual night.
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867. Whether it be the torment
of a friendship lost...
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868. or the joy of a friendship
strengthened.
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869. Where his confession opens
the floodgates to actually
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870. talking for the first time.
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871. This is so nice, it's like,
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872. like such a difference
from just normally
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873. when we're hanging out
in the city in a bar, you know,
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874. just playing trivia and...
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875. Maybe it's easiest
to choose a path
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876. when you can
live the future first.
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877. To free yourself from doubt
and regret,
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878. to always know the answers.
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879. As a symbol of support
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880. for those living with AIDS
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881. - and HIV.
- So, what is a ribbon?
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882. - Oh, yeah.
- Red ribbons.
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883. - I would have lost a point...
- Yeah.
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884. on the color.
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885. - So, how are you feeling?
- Fantastic.
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886. We actually did better
than expected,
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887. - when we actually won.
- Well, congrats.
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888. Yeah. There were questions
that were in my wheelhouse.
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889. The questions that were
in my wheelhouse, I was able
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890. to answer those particular
questions correctly.
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891. You got everything off
your chest,
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892. and it must feel good.
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893. I got it off my chest,
and I still won that night.
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894. - Trivia—
- Which is an ex—
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895. I won a trivia night,
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896. and that's the extra cherry
on the sundae, I guess.
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897. There's something I need to...
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898. come clean about.
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899. - Um...
- Oh.
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900. and I taught you them
in advance without you knowing,
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901. and I know you're against
cheating and this isn't cheating
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902. because you actually
didn't know I was doing it,
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903. but I was just— wanted you
to focus on the confession,
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904. and I wanted your confidence
to be up, but I feel terrible
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905. about it, and I just—
I'm sorry.
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906. I wanna say I'm sorry.
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907. Uh, yeah, I... Um...
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908. Okay, I understand
what you're saying and um...
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909. I appreciate
your motivation, but...
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910. you've tainted, you've ruined
the whole thing for me,
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911. 'cause I knew
the answers, I knew the answers
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912. and I'm on TV now,
and everybody now is gonna think
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913. that I didn't know them,
that I'm a fake and you...
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914. You know how important
this was for me?
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915. This is a mistake.
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916. It was a huge mistake,
and you fucked this all up.
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917. You're an awful...
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918. awful person.
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919. I think you're... a great guy.
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920. Like you're a great person.
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921. Oh, well, thank you
for the compliment.
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922. Yeah, just...
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923. I don't give compliments a lot,
so I wanted to come clean
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924. about just kind of saying
the compliment.
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925. I don't affirm people enough.
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926. - Oh.
- Yeah, so...
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927. - It's just kind of like— Yeah.
- That's nice of you to say.
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928. - Thank you,
- You are, you are.
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929. - That's very touching.
- Of course.
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