1. So, you only
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4. Hey, Tamika.
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6. I got held up in court.
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8. Fred and Joy Peterson's son.
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9. Ollie?
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10. No, the younger one, Frankie.
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11. It's bad, Ralph.
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12. Is that the guy
who called it in?
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13. - Yeah.
- Well, he shouldn't be here.
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14. Have someone take him back
to the house.
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15. Tell 'em to keep him there,
keep him happy 'til I get back.
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16. Hey George,
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17. start looking for
security cameras around the area
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18. like shops, homes,
traffic lights,
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19. and get a door-to-door canvas
going for possible wits.
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20. - Yeah?
- Detective Anderson.
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21. Yunis Sablo, GBI.
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22. Hey, Loot, thanks for coming
so quick.
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23. We can help you canvas the area,
anything else you might need.
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24. I appreciate that, I'm down
to one detective,
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25. and she's um...
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26. Yeah. We met.
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27. So, the coroner said the tissue
tears on the upper torso,
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around the edges.
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29. Animal?
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30. No.
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31. I was walking the dog.
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32. - Starting from where?
- From my house.
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33. - Two-four-six Mulberry Street.
- Mm-hm.
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34. What time was this?
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35. Five, like always.
We walked down the hill,
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headed toward the park.
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37. We go out there so often,
she could take herself.
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38. - Did you stop anywhere?
- No, sir.
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39. Okay, you got to the park...
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40. Five-fifteenish.
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42. No.
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43. Did, um...
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45. - Maybe something out of the ordinary...
- When we passed that lot...
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47. there was a van.
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a little after five and...
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50. it was the only vehicle
still there.
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52. White.
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53. Double doors in the back,
like for deliveries.
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sides and numbers, perhaps?
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55. No.
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56. Did you get
a license plate number?
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57. - I'm sorry.
- Okay.
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for any reason,
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still alive or...
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61. any reasoning whatsoever?
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62. Still alive?
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63. All right, guys.
Game day breakfast special.
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64. Get 'em while they're weird.
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65. I thought
you were making purple.
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66. Well, Daddy ran out
of blue food color,
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67. and red and blue make purple,
so... green.
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68. Yellow and red make orange.
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69. I'll never understand
how blue and yellow make green.
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70. That just doesn't make sense.
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71. Who's gonna win today, girls?
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72. - Your Dragons.
- Dragons.
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73. The Dragons, you're right.
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74. At least, I hope so, you know.
We're gonna try.
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75. Mm-hm. If two teams both pray
before a game,
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76. - who does God pick?
- He doesn't.
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77. Uh, well, unless it's
Florida-Georgia, honey,
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78. - you know, in that case...
- Terry.
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79. - Georgia's gonna get the pick.
- God doesn't pick.
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80. Then why do they pray?
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81. Uh... well,
because it helps them wanna play
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82. at their very, very best,
regardless of the outcome.
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83. You know?
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84. So brave, all the families
still wanted to play today.
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85. Uh, yeah, well, you know...
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86. it's not gonna be easy,
but it's been a few days.
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87. I think people wanna try
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88. and see if they can start
to push through.
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89. There you are.
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90. Honey, I got to go.
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91. The shelter has me running
intake evaluations all morning.
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92. You gonna be okay?
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93. He had Derek under his wing
for two years.
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94. How many times did we put him
in the car with him?
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95. Half the times...
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96. we even waved goodbye.
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97. Ralph...
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98. Derek had cancer. That man
had nothing to do with it.
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99. You go arrest him
for what he has done.
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100. I hope to God he resists.
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101. Strike one!
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102. It's all right. Just a single,
Jimmy. Come and see me.
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103. Walk's as good as a hit.
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104. Come on, Jimmy,
wait for your pitch, pal.
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105. Connor, get a bat.
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106. Go get 'em, cowboy.
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107. Okay, let's do it.
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108. Ma... it's the cops.
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109. I hope this isn't about
those overdue library books.
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110. No!
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111. What would make
someone do such a thing?
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112. Well, right now,
I don't know any better
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116. I was coming out of Gerald's
with my groceries.
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117. It's not as nice as Kroger's,
but it's close to me and, um...
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118. after my last accident,
I don't like to drive that far.
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119. It was
about three o'clock, you said.
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120. Exactly three.
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121. I heard the clock tower chimes,
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124. What was he wearing?
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125. You know, just boy clothes.
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126. Blue jeans, t-shirt.
Ball cap...
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127. And what'd you see next?
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128. Hey, Frankie.
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129. Hey there, Mr. Maitland.
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130. That's too bad.
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131. Eh, Ollie will fix it
for me when we get home.
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132. Well, you let me pull over,
I'll give you a ride, okay?
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133. I just assumed
he was taking the boy home.
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134. What about the van?
Can you tell me anything?
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135. Did you see writing on the side?
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136. Did you get
a license plate number?
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137. All I can tell you
about the plate
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138. was it was out of state.
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139. Wasn't Georgia colors.
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140. Yellow. White.
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141. Can't bring it up.
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142. - This individual...
- Ralph.
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143. Terry Maitland.
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144. I've known him
since he was a kid.
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145. T, I need a copy
of Terry Maitland's prints.
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146. Correct, Coach Terry.
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147. Reach out to the board
of education.
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148. They should have them on file.
Okay?
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149. Strike three!
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150. Go in there. Read him
his rights. Loud and clear.
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151. So that everyone can hear it.
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152. And then cuff him in front
so everyone can see.
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153. - In front's against protocol...
- Cuff him in front
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154. so everybody can see and then
you bring him out to me.
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155. You're not coming in?
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156. Just bring him out.
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157. - You got it.
- And no guns.
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158. - What if he runs?
- Then we run after him.
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159. There's a couple hundred people
out there.
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160. All right.
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161. Hey, T. You all set?
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162. Just waiting on the Statie
with the paper.
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163. Hang on, he just pulled up.
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164. - Is it Sablo?
- It is.
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165. Okay, tell him I'll call
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166. as soon as I see Maitland
in cuffs.
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167. Okay.
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168. So... you're walking
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169. from your house
to your friend Amelia's.
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170. - Uh-huh.
- Mm-hm.
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171. Can I have another soda?
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172. Mm-mm, Juney. One is enough.
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173. She says they'll rot my teeth,
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174. but they're baby teeth;
They're falling out anyhow.
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175. Well, you know what?
Your mom's the boss.
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176. Maybe afterwards,
we can ask her again.
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177. Um...
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178. Okay, so you were walking
near the park.
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179. Just tell me what you saw.
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180. You're all bloody.
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181. He said he got hit by a branch.
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182. But I think he was making it up.
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183. Why's that?
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184. Because when I had
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186. but Coach Terry
had blood all over.
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187. Jesus.
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188. I think he was fighting
with a bad person at the park,
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189. and he got beat up.
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190. I was trying to give
her a little independence.
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191. How could I know?
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192. Ah, there's no way
you could know, Dee.
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193. Strike three!
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194. All right. That's okay.
Hustle in.
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195. Trevor, hit for Jimmy, please.
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196. Get us a hit out there, buddy.
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197. Coach Maitland.
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198. Trevor hasn't hit yet.
Everybody plays. You know that.
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199. Be a hitter out there, pal.
Hustle up.
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200. He strikes out, he strikes out,
you know?
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201. Yeah, and we get
knocked out of the tournament.
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202. No one's getting knocked out
of the tournament.
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203. Besides, if he gets a hit,
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to tell his grandkids.
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205. You ever think about that?
Right?
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208. Terrence Maitland.
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209. I'm arresting you for the murder
of Frankie Peterson.
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210. For the what?
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211. Hold out your wrists, please.
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212. What are you talking about?
Hey, hey, what are you doing?
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213. You have the right
to remain silent.
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214. Don, what are you doing?
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215. Do you understand
what I'm saying to you?
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216. - Yeah.
- Let's go.
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217. Take over for me.
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218. Cherokee PD's finest.
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219. - Why, thank you.
- Well, you're welcome.
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220. You're absolutely welcome.
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221. Claude.
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222. They're new, right? These?
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223. Nah, man, I got those
three years ago in McAlester.
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224. That's the addict's memo
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226. Therein lies the struggle
right there.
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to, uh...
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229. Brother, since the last time
you slapped the bracelets on me,
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230. I have been Anonymous to death.
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231. Narcotics, the alcohol,
gamblers, debtors,
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233. If I was anymore anonymous,
I'd be invisible.
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234. Good for you, man. Good for you.
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236. You imagine what
The Peach Crease would be like
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238. No, props to you.
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239. Uh, okay...
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a minute or two before eight.
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242. Yes, sir. Last song of Miss
Jennifer's set was playing.
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243. Next girl always goes up there
on the top of the hour,
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244. so yeah, I'm saying
a minute or two before eight.
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247. I just need to use
your men's room.
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248. I wanna clean up a little bit.
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249. Jeez, I'd hate to see
the other guy.
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250. No other guy, just my nose
broke loose again.
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251. It happens all the time.
I tried to clean most of it up.
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252. Do you know if there's
a doc in the box around here?
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253. I might need to get it
cauterized again.
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254. There's the Quick Care
right past the Waffle House,
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255. about a mile down Burdick.
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256. You driving?
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257. I shouldn't.
Can you call me a cab?
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258. And I parked my van in the lot
around back. Is that okay?
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259. Well, that's for the employees
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260. but you should be okay
for a while.
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262. Turn right at the end
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263. Just follow the drunks.
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264. You're a life saver.
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265. He had a change
of clothes with him?
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wearing fresh threads,
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268. - Can you describe 'em?
- Yeah.
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or pink.
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the light gels we use in there.
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272. Um, blue jeans and a belt.
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in a dude ranch gift shop.
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275. What?
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to the men's,
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277. I saw he had more blood
on the back of his jacket.
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278. All right, say I get a nosebleed
like he said,
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on the back of my clothes?
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280. Okay, T. Tell Sablo
he's good to go.
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281. Ralph, thank God.
What the hell is this?
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282. Hey! Hey,
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- Ralph,
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284. - what the hell are you doing?
- Where are you going?
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285. - Hey, Terry. Terry.
- Glory. Glory, no, no, no.
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286. - You need to go home.
- What the fuck is he doing with handcuffs?
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287. The police are already
at your house.
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288. - What are you doing? You can't...
- Glory.
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289. - You think he killed Frankie Peterson?
- Get the kids...
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290. - Stand back, Glory.
- Get the kids and call Howie.
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291. What are you talk...
Hey! Do not...
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292. - Get the kids... Just call Howie.
- Open this door.
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293. - Call Howie. Call Howie.
- Hey, Ralph, you piece of shit!
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294. Ralph!
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295. Dewey Sue'em
and Howe, Attorneys at Law.
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296. Howard, it's Glory.
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297. They just arrested Terry.
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298. They said he killed
Frankie Peterson.
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299. Hang on, hang on.
They what?
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300. Where did they take him?
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301. - Can you help him?
- Of course I can.
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302. Just tell me where you are.
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303. He wasn't even in town that day.
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304. Trust me, they screwed up
big time.
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305. Ralph Anderson said the
police are at our house right now.
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306. Well, they probably have
a search warrant.
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307. Where are the girls?
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308. They're with me.
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309. Glory, you need
to calm down. Deep breath.
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310. No, I don't, Howard!
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311. Okay, okay. Now, first off,
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any more cops today.
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at a friend's house.
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314. You know anybody
who would take 'em in?
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315. - Spencers.
- Okay, beautiful.
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316. After that,
I want you to go straight home.
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317. See what they wanna take.
Do not let them take anything
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318. but what's listed
on that warrant.
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319. Okay.
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320. Now, they might try
to get you talking about Terry.
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323. I refuse to answer
any of your questions."
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324. "On the advice of my lawyer",
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325. I refuse to answer
any of your questions."
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326. Perfect.
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327. The Peterson boy?
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328. Ralph, you know me.
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on Tuesday?
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330. I wasn't even in town
on Tuesday.
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331. Did you guys even check
to see where I was that day?
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332. We know where you were.
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for you.
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that question, Ralph?
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340. "There's a fare coming out
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341. But guess what?
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342. Lucky me, I'm already there.
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343. What time was this?
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345. Hey, coach. Your wife know
where you are?
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346. Ma'am, you need to call
your dispatcher
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that you just picked me up.
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348. Yeah, thanks. I wouldn't have
thought to do that.
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350. No, ma'am, we're going to
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up on Burdick?
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353. He said that he needed to take the
overnight to Dallas-Fort Worth.
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354. - He say anything else?
- Nothing.
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355. Zero.
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356. At first, I thought maybe
they over-served him.
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357. He was halfway to passing out,
but...
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358. I didn't smell any alcohol
off him.
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359. But his eyes...
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360. Like he wants to be caught
on tape.
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361. There's no record of this guy
buying a ticket
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or any other train
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and there's no footage
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365. So, what's the taxi
to train station dodge?
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366. Just some bullshit to try
and throw us off the...
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367. You know, off his trail?
I mean, come on.
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369. This guy has murdered a child.
He wants to avoid arrest,
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after that is idiotic.
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covered in blood
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of witnesses.
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in the employee parking lot.
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right out front.
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to register the pickup
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fucking hell.
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to catch him.
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378. But what kind of criminal
does that?
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be punished for what they did?
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380. Yeah, I don't buy that either.
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382. You still gonna cuff him
tomorrow at the game?
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in a Little League uniform?
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384. It's got to be Gacy
in the clown suit, right?
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on the phone.
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386. They're done with the blood work
from the scene in the van,
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which is a match for the boy,
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of AB-positive
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and on the steering wheel.
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390. - Hmm.
- Guess what percentage of people
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- Three.
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394. Actually, five wits
and ton of prints says I don't.
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395. Look, the Staties will get it
from the house anyways.
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396. I mean, you get a stray hair
off a comb, doesn't mean jack
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398. You okay there, sport?
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399. Let's go.
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400. Mr. Maitland, I'm Kenneth Hayes
from the county D.A.'s office.
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401. I'm not gonna talk to you
or anyone else
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402. - until my lawyer gets here.
- You told Mr. Anderson
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is that true?
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405. I'm not talking to you
or anyone else
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- Until your lawyer gets here. No, I, uh...
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407. I heard you the first time.
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408. Which would you say
is your good side?
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409. Because in this state,
we can hold you for 48 hours
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411. But if you can't help us
clear this up by then,
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412. well then, we have to take you
down to the courthouse
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414. It'll be major news by then.
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415. And the place will be swarming
with media monkeys
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Left side? Right side?
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419. Let us take a cheek swab.
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420. I mean, if I'm an innocent man,
I'd demand it.
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the killer's...
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423. Poor D.A. Hayes here,
is up for reelection,
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a high-profile case like this.
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to me?
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428. - "How am I going to lose?"
- Always.
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429. Can't get him out
from behind his desk
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430. unless I got a gold-plated
slam dunk.
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431. Now look at him.
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432. He's bright-eyed.
He's ready to go.
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433. What's it tell you?
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434. Terry?
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435. Lawyer.
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436. Okay.
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437. We'll wait for his guy.
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438. Oh, uh...
just one more question.
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439. Feel free not to answer,
but do you have any idea
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440. what your blood type is
by any chance?
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441. AB positive, right?
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442. - Hey, here he is.
- Howie.
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443. - How you doin', kid?
- I'll let you two chat.
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444. - I'm okay.
- Hang in, I'll be right back.
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445. Fellas, is this
just a massive mistake
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446. that we can clear up
right here and now
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447. or have you both lost
your fucking minds?
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448. There's nothing wrong
with my fucking mind.
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449. What did he tell you?
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450. "Wait 'til my lawyer gets here."
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451. I assumed that. I mean
when you first brought him in
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452. - for questioning.
- There was no initial interview.
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453. Hold on.
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454. You arrested him
in front of over 100 people
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455. without giving him a chance
to explain himself,
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456. without even attempting
to verify his story?
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457. With the evidence we had,
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458. we didn't want to risk
that he would run.
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459. Run?
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460. You arrested him...
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461. in front of his family
and his neighbors...
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462. when you could have just
as easily posted cops
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463. around the stadium,
waited for the game to be over,
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464. and then picked him up
at his home.
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465. Ralph, I know you.
You're a decent guy. Why?
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466. First off, Howard,
I didn't arrest him.
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467. I had Don Harrier and Tom Yates
do that for me,
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468. and the reason being if I had
to put my hands on him,
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469. I don't know
that I could've trusted myself
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470. not to beat the fucking shit
out of him.
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471. I didn't want to give you that
to work with at trial.
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472. Unbelievable.
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473. You wanna see what he did
to Frankie Peterson?
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474. What someone did.
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475. Officer.
Move that car for me, please.
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476. Mrs. Maitland, we have a warrant
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477. to search the premises
and remove any items
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478. belonging to your husband,
Terence Maitland.
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479. Yes, my lawyer told me.
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480. There's nothing listed here.
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481. Does that mean you can take
anything?
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482. Given the nature of the crime,
it's at our discretion.
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483. Wait, that's my daughter's.
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484. That's not...
That is not even Terry's.
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485. God damn it.
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486. - So, you like little boys, coach?
- Okay, stop.
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487. Just tell us why Terry's here.
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488. Lay it all out. Or I go right
to the press and I say
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489. you've arrested
a leading citizen,
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490. ruined his reputation,
terrified his wife and children,
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491. but won't tell us why.
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492. For starters, fingerprints.
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493. - My fingerprints?
- Mm-hm.
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494. On Frank Peterson's body.
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495. In the van.
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496. - In what van?
- The van you used to abduct him.
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497. On his bike, which we found
in the back of the van.
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498. And on the branch you used
to sodomize him.
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499. Holy shit.
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500. Wouldn't be the first time
fingerprints were planted.
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501. Oh, a few, maybe. But 70? 80?
And in blood?
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502. Yeah, and we got a slew
of witnesses, each of whom
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503. identified him out
of a photo array
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504. without hesitation.
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505. You know the definition
of a witness, Ralph, right?
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506. A person who thought they saw
something.
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507. Maybe you guys should go with
the AB positive match instead.
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508. Population of Georgia's
four million.
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509. Three percent of four mil
is, what, 120,000 suspects,
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510. assuming the killer's not
from Alabama or Florida.
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511. It's a fucking nightmare.
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512. - It's a nightmare.
- So, end it.
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513. End it. Tell us why you did it.
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514. Tell us why in any way you want
in order to paint yourself
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515. in the best possible light.
Were you on new meds?
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516. - No. No.
- Did you black out?
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517. Were you hallucinating?
Are you paranoid schizophrenic?
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518. - "Help us help you."
- But tell us something
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519. before the DNA swabs come back
and you might avoid the needle.
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520. - The needle?
- I was in Cap City.
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521. From when to when?
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522. I left my house at 9:00 a.m.
on Tuesday.
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523. I was back the next day,
Wednesday, noon.
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524. Anybody with you?
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525. Yeah, Jerry Frost and Bob Barry.
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526. - What was in Cap City?
- It was a conference
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527. for secondary school
English teachers.
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528. A conference on what?
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529. On censorship. Banning books.
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530. Modern Language Association
held it at the Babcock Hotel.
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531. We got in there
before the guest lunch
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532. and then right into
the afternoon panel discussion.
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533. What time was this?
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534. After lunch.
Two... Two o'clock, yeah.
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535. Went about an hour,
they took questions, 45 minutes.
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536. - How convenient.
- Not for you, it isn't.
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537. After that, the three of us
just walked around the hotel,
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538. we watched some
of the Braves game.
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539. Five-thirty, there was
another panel. We attended that,
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540. then we went to dinner there
at the hotel,
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541. stuffed with people.
Had a beer at the bar.
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542. Again, crowded.
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543. Went upstairs, lights out.
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544. First thing in the morning,
downstairs, 7:00 a.m.,
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545. checkout, breakfast,
right back here, home.
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546. I can't believe you are first
asking all of this now.
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547. I explained to you why.
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548. Oh, right. He might have hopped
on a tramp steamer
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549. and fled to Madagascar.
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550. You're making a very bad mistake
here.
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551. No, there's no mistake.
And in a day or two,
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552. we'll have the DNA back
from the swabs to clinch it.
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553. If it doesn't bury you.
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554. You've had him for four days.
I want him back.
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555. Ms. Peterson, I understand,
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556. but that's the coroner's
decision.
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557. He needs to make sure
many things...
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558. Let me bury my son!
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559. You don't understand, all right.
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560. - Ralph, they won't give me...
- Not now.
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561. There he is.
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562. Did you do it?
Did you do that to my son?
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563. Did you kill my son?
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564. Did you kill him?
Did you kill my son, Terry?
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565. Look at me!
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566. Look at me, mother fucker!
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567. All right,
everybody up. Let's go.
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568. All right, next group.
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569. Feet on paint, squat, and cough.
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570. All right, I want a foot on each
and squat.
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571. Deeper.
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572. I want your ass 18 inches
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573. from the floor,
no more, no less.
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574. Hey, that's the dude
that did that kid.
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575. That you, right?
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576. All right, everybody up.
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577. All right, move. Let's go!
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578. Move it!
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579. I ain't got all day! Come on!
Let's go!
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580. Babcock Hotel,
how may I direct your call?
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581. Jonathan Hughes
in security, please.
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582. Security.
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583. Hey, Jon, it's Alec Pelley.
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584. Hey, how the hell are ya, buddy?
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585. I'm doing good, man.
I'm doing good.
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586. Listen, I'm about an hour
from you now. Uh...
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587. I could really use your help
with something I'm looking into
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588. for Howie Saloman.
You'll be around?
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589. Get my line
together down there, fellas. Let's go.
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590. Come on. Let's go.
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591. - I can't go in there.
- Is that right?
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592. - I can't go in there.
- I say you were born to go in there.
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593. Larry, let's not lose
another one, okay by you?
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594. Let's go.
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595. Let's go.
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596. - Come on. Let's go.
- Let's go, let's go.
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597. We need to question
those two teachers
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598. he said he had with him
in Cap City.
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599. Yeah, Tamika's got one
in the box as we speak.
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600. You hear anything from that yet?
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601. Ah, so far,
he just backs up everything Maitland said.
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602. The other's been callin'
all afternoon,
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603. pissed off
we haven't reached out.
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604. So, we need to get
someone over to that hotel,
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605. otherwise Saloman's investigator's
gonna beat us to the security tape.
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606. Yeah, he probably
already has. So what?
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607. It's not like he can tuck it
under his arm
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608. - and throw it in his trunk.
- Yeah, right.
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609. Even if he sees a guy on there
that looks like Maitland,
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610. it's inconclusive. Going up
against what we've got.
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611. And freeze it right there again.
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612. Is that your guy?
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613. Ah, hell, I guess it could be.
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614. We've got nothing
from inside the gift shop.
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615. We just don't surveil in there.
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616. You got no other
conference footage at all?
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617. That's it.
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618. The bar or the restaurant?
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619. I don't know, the hallway
outside his room?
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620. Yeah, I mean there was
a public access TV crew
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621. covering the conference
that day.
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623. Jessa.
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624. Jessa.
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625. - Wake u...
- No! I will not! I will not!
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626. - I will not!
- Shh! It's okay.Mom!
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627. Tell him to get out
of my room. Tell him to get out!
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628. It's just a bad dream, it's okay.
No one's here, my love.
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629. There's no one here. It's okay.
Look. Look.
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630. No one's here. You're having
a bad dream. It's okay.
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631. He was here.
He was saying bad things to me.
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632. - Oh, no! I'm sorry. It's just a bad dream.
- Mommy.
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633. - Yes?
- What's happening? What's wrong with her?
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634. She's just having a bad dream.
It's okay, go back to bed.
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635. - Okay.
- It's not a bad dream.
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636. He was here.
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637. Yeah.
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638. Hey, I just sent you a link.
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639. Would you take a look at it
and tell me what you think?
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640. Jesus.
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641. I hope that answered
your question.
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642. Anyone else?
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643. Yes, sir.
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644. Hi, uh, I don't understand.
Slaughterhouse Five is banned
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645. in part because, I guess,
of its unsparing take on war,
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646. but The Iliad,
which is infinitely
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647. more bloody and graphic
is required reading.
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648. So, I was wondering if any
of you could respond to that.
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649. Yeah. William,
you're our Homer expert.
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650. Why don't you take a crack
at it?
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651. Ralph, is that or is that not
Terry Maitland
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652. on the same day,
roughly the same time
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653. as Frankie Peterson was murdered
70 miles away?
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654. Poof.
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655. The painful fact...
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656. is that juries rarely convict
on fingerprint evidence alone.
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657. What about your witnesses?
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658. A small child?
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659. A, uh, senior citizen
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660. who only drives two miles
a week because of poor eyesight?
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661. A strip club bouncer
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662. with a rap sheet
longer than my leg.
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663. No, once Saloman gets a hold
of them on cross...
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664. Yeah, but they... they saw him.
They ID'd him.
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665. Every single one of them
rang true.
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666. So, you're saying it's all
gonna come down to DNA evidence?
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667. I'm starting to have
my doubts about that.
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668. - We were still talking.
- No, I talked to you,
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669. and I'm gonna go to the hotel
in Cap City.
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670. The charge is withdrawn?
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671. It's over?
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672. Not quite.
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673. Problem is when they arrest you,
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674. you get put on
the justice train,
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675. and the train has no brain.
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676. All I know it's a stop
at every station,
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677. so in a couple of days...
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678. you'll have your arraignment
with Judge Landy.
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679. But I can promise you this:
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680. By the time you reach
that courthouse,
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681. I will make damn sure
every reporter
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682. and every TV station
in the state
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683. has a copy of that video
so there is no way.
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684. Landy will deny you bail.
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685. Now, the D.A., he's gonna quack
like a duck because...
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686. he's got a heap
of forensic evidence,
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687. and he's very proud of it.
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688. But I can tell you now, Terry,
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689. what we've got
beats what they've got.
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690. We've got a video tape
and we've got witnesses.
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691. I want more.
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692. Of what?
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693. I want more
physical forensic evidence
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694. - to match theirs.
- From the Babcock?
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695. It's been five days
since he's been there.
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696. A boy can dream, can't he?
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697. Um...
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698. Maybe there's something.
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699. Does this guy look familiar
at all?
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700. Thank you.
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701. Hey, there. How are you doin'?
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702. - Holding my own, some of theirs.
- Ah, that's good to hear.
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703. Did you happen to be working
on Tuesday?
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704. That was the day
of the teachers' conference.
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705. I'm here every day.
It's my shop.
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706. Could I ask you to look
at these photos, please?
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707. Tell me if you've seen this man.
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708. - They're kinda grainy.
- Mm.
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709. - Same guy?
- Yeah.
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710. Yeah. Yeah, he was in here.
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711. You sure?
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712. See those books?
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713. You know why they're up there?
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714. 'Cause nobody buys them.
They're too expensive.
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715. No one ever took that one down
off the stand
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716. before this guy came in,
but he didn't buy it.
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717. But he thought about it.
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718. - Um, which one?
- Red spine.
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719. Has anyone touched that book
since he was here?
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720. - Are you kidding?
- How much?
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721. - Hey, Alec.
- Hey, Ralph.
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722. Any chance there's a photo book
in that bag?
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723. - Yeah.
- Great.
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724. You know if you find
Maitland's prints on there,
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725. you'd be doing us a favor.
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726. Shit, I hope I don't.
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727. Well, either way,
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728. you're gonna have
a hell of a time
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729. with that TV footage.
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730. Well, unless these turn out
to be someone else's prints,
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731. all of a sudden, your TV footage
doesn't look so good.
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732. Okay, this is from the Babcock.
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733. This is from the crime scene.
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734. And this is Terry Maitland's
booking sheet.
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735. Drum roll?
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736. They all match.
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737. Bullshit.
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738. He can't have been
in two places at once.
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739. That's... hard.
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740. You, uh... You log these
into evidence?
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741. I had to.
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742. Well, then Howie Saloman gets
his mitts on them in discovery.
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743. You know...
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744. back in the 90s, there was
this Colombian soccer player
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745. who scored a goal in his own net
during the World Cup.
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746. And as a result,
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747. his team was eliminated.
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748. You remind me of that guy.
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749. - If Terry Maitland is innocent...
- Which he's not.
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750. If he is...
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751. we're not done.
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752. This happens again...
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753. How badly do you wanna win,
Kenneth?
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754. I don't know, Ralph.
How badly do you wanna lose?
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755. Happy Birthday, baby.
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756. Happy Birthday.
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757. Oh, God, I miss him so much.
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758. I would do...
I would do anything...
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759. Anything.
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760. He knows.
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761. Does he know?
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762. I couldn't bear
to think otherwise.
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763. Baby, I've been a lawman
for over 20 years,
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764. and it just kills me.
Just kills me.
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765. That you can't get justice
for Derek.
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766. It's just... there are times
on the job where I...
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767. I really feel like it covers
everything I do,
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768. every judgement, every decision.
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769. Like, um...
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770. Like Terry Maitland.
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771. Ralph...
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772. if for one minute...
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773. you could just stop thinking
about Derek,
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774. and put aside...
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775. all the contradictory evidence
on both sides, all of it.
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776. And answer me this.
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777. From your gut...
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778. do you think Terry Maitland
killed that boy?
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779. I can't tell. I don't know.
I really don't know.
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780. You should have come with this.
The wait wasn't so bad.
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781. Hey, T, can you come in here,
please?
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782. Will you take a look at this
for me?
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783. Tell me what you see.
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784. - Terry Maitland.
- Uh-huh.
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785. Look a little closer.
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786. Is he giving us the finger?
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787. Hey, child killer.
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788. Hey. Child killer.
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789. Blood cries for blood.
You hear me?
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790. Tomorrow morning,
when you get back from court...
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791. we'll be waiting for you.
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792. Believe that.
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793. I'm as baffled by this
conflicting evidence as you are.
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794. I didn't kill that kid, Ralph.
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795. Is there a mystery here? Yes.
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796. The saliva sample
is a dead-on match.
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797. Do you see how strange this is?
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798. Did anything out of the ordinary
happen while you were in Dayton?
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799. What if he didn't do it?
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800. He didn't do it.
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801. If he didn't do it,
someone else did.
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