1. What we have here is the same scenario
as Andrea Cornish.Copy !req
2. Would you agree?Copy !req
3. So where's all the news trucks?Copy !req
4. Your basic uptown misdemeanor homicide.Copy !req
5. What kind of knife was used in this attack?Copy !req
6. One with a single-edged,
non-serrated blade...Copy !req
7. approximately 5 inches in length.Copy !req
8. Something like this one?Copy !req
9. Yes.Copy !req
10. And what about this wound
on the defendant's hand?Copy !req
11. That cut is the result of his hand slipping
from the handle of the knife...Copy !req
12. onto the blade of the knife
in the act of stabbing her.Copy !req
13. Your witness.Copy !req
14. Dr. Chester...Copy !req
15. did you hear Mrs. Weiss ask you
the total number of wounds?Copy !req
16. No.Copy !req
17. Me neither. I wonder why that is.Copy !req
18. Perhaps because we can see them.Copy !req
19. We can, that's true,
and they're hard to look at...Copy !req
20. - ... but how many are there?
- Twenty-two.Copy !req
21. And what does that tell you?Copy !req
22. It tells me she was stabbed 22 times.Copy !req
23. That's all? Such a great number of wounds?Copy !req
24. Some would say
it indicates a crime of passion.Copy !req
25. That it was personal?Copy !req
26. That the killer had something
against the victim?Copy !req
27. Some would say.Copy !req
28. But not me because I've seen it both ways.Copy !req
29. This cut is very important
to the state's case.Copy !req
30. Any chance you could be mistaken
about what caused it?Copy !req
31. Nope.Copy !req
32. Have you ever made a mistake
that sent an innocent man to prison?Copy !req
33. No.Copy !req
34. Arthur Metz didn't go to prison
because of your testimony at his trial?Copy !req
35. - You don't remember him?
- No, I do.Copy !req
36. So you remember
that Mr. Metz was later exonerated...Copy !req
37. based on a reexamination
of your findings?Copy !req
38. My findings were disputed, not disproven.Copy !req
39. I didn't say disputed or disproven,
but whatever we wanna call it...Copy !req
40. - ... Mr. Metz is now a free man.
- Unless he's back in prison...Copy !req
41. - ... for some other crime.
- He's not back in prison for some other crime.Copy !req
42. And wasn't in prison for some other crime
before your testimony put him there.Copy !req
43. - It wasn't a mistake.
- The appellate court disagreed.Copy !req
44. It had a different interpretation.Copy !req
45. That's all we're talking about,
a different interpretation...Copy !req
46. to avoid you having to come back...Copy !req
47. like you had to with Mr. Metz.Copy !req
48. Everything that goes on
in there is important.Copy !req
49. How Naz sits, what he wears,
what his eyes say...Copy !req
50. who's thereto support him, who isn't.Copy !req
51. I know it's not easy to look at those
pictures, but the jury has to, and so do you.Copy !req
52. You can't get up and leave like that.Copy !req
53. An animal did that.Copy !req
54. Yeah. You're right.Copy !req
55. Did I raise an animal?Copy !req
56. What?Copy !req
57. He wants to talk to you.Copy !req
58. If you get a call with the ID unavailable,
it's probably him.Copy !req
59. - I promise, it's not that at all.
- Yes, it is.Copy !req
60. Listen...Copy !req
61. Are you happy now?Copy !req
62. We talked to our lawyer.Copy !req
63. He said we won't get the cab back
no matter what.Copy !req
64. We're buying a new one.Copy !req
65. An old new one.Copy !req
66. That's great.Copy !req
67. It's ours. Not yours.Copy !req
68. What are you talking about? It's mine too.Copy !req
69. No.Copy !req
70. The car we can't get back is yours,
not this one.Copy !req
71. This one is mine too.Copy !req
72. A third of the medallion is mine.Copy !req
73. You cannot operate any car without me.Copy !req
74. So sell us your third.Copy !req
75. - You don't have the money.
- You don't have the money for anything.Copy !req
76. We have the money. We can get the money.
It will solve your problems.Copy !req
77. You want it?Copy !req
78. I want what is right.Copy !req
79. Us working together, like always.Copy !req
80. No.Copy !req
81. - Okay.
- Okay, good, 75,000.Copy !req
82. It's Worth 250,000.Copy !req
83. Why would I do that?Copy !req
84. Because that's all we are going to pay.Copy !req
85. And it will take us years to work that off.Copy !req
86. I'll sell it to someone else.Copy !req
87. We are not going to work
with some deadbeat.Copy !req
88. Someone who pays the full price is a deadbeat
and you're not?Copy !req
89. We didn't put us here. You did, your son.Copy !req
90. Look what he has done to all of us.Copy !req
91. To all of us.Copy !req
92. You're thieves.Copy !req
93. I don't do business with thieves.Copy !req
94. You are the father of a killer.Copy !req
95. What's that?Copy !req
96. It's a photo of the defendant's back
taken at the precinct...Copy !req
97. approximately an hour
after he was arrested.Copy !req
98. Detective, could those scratches simply
be the result of, I'll say, lovemaking...Copy !req
99. - ... in your opinion?
- Well, I don't know.Copy !req
100. But I can tell you a considerable amount
of his skin was found under her fingernails.Copy !req
101. Other than that, you should ask Cupid.Copy !req
102. - You okay?
- Yeah, no problem.Copy !req
103. You're doing great.Copy !req
104. Hey, isn't that the guy on the news?Copy !req
105. His daughter was killed by that cabbie?Copy !req
106. Stepdaughter.Copy !req
107. Did you know her?Copy !req
108. No.Copy !req
109. He must be pretty broken up, huh?Copy !req
110. What business is that of yours?Copy !req
111. I'm just saying.Copy !req
112. Pick up the pace a bit.Copy !req
113. I'm always here.Copy !req
114. Whatever you need.Copy !req
115. - Hey.
- So he's got a Visa, MasterCard...Copy !req
116. and Amex, all maxed.Copy !req
117. If he files for bankruptcy,
it'll be the third time.Copy !req
118. I appreciate this.Copy !req
119. Criminal records I can get,
credit cards, they're tough.Copy !req
120. Yeah. I took a look at yours.Copy !req
121. I'm kidding.Copy !req
122. Oh, I also ran across this.Copy !req
123. You may wanna talk to her.Copy !req
124. My first husband was a deadbeat too.Copy !req
125. Guess I've got a type.Copy !req
126. Yeah. My wife's got a type.Copy !req
127. I'm not it.Copy !req
128. Look, I'm not stupid.
I knew what he wanted.Copy !req
129. And I knew what I wanted.Copy !req
130. He was young, good-looking, I have money.Copy !req
131. Guess you could call that some kind
of prostitution...Copy !req
132. but worked for us.Copy !req
133. Until the night I had to call 911
with his hands around my throat.Copy !req
134. Really?Copy !req
135. Cops were quick, thank God.Copy !req
136. - Did you press charges?
- Oh, yeah.Copy !req
137. They hauled him off.Copy !req
138. Next time I saw him
was across a conference table...Copy !req
139. with the divorce lawyers,
both of whom I was paying for...Copy !req
140. since he didn't have a dime to his name.Copy !req
141. Mine said,
"Jeannie, do you wanna save some money?Copy !req
142. Give him 200 grand and walk away."Copy !req
143. Best legal advice I ever got.Copy !req
144. You know why divorce is so expensive?Copy !req
145. Because it's worth it.Copy !req
146. Right.Copy !req
147. You know what he does?Copy !req
148. A personal trainer, apparently.Copy !req
149. I mean, his real line of work.Copy !req
150. He's a trapeze artist.Copy !req
151. Swings from one old bag to another.Copy !req
152. Don't sell yourself short.Copy !req
153. I'm not.Copy !req
154. It was a joke.Copy !req
155. How you doing?Copy !req
156. I'm fine.Copy !req
157. Don't say it.Copy !req
158. How often did you buy amphetamines
from the defendant?Copy !req
159. They were just Adderall.Copy !req
160. Which we know now from earlier testimony
is stronger than your average amphetamine.Copy !req
161. How often did you buy it from him?Copy !req
162. Just mainly at finals.Copy !req
163. Mainly.Copy !req
164. So at other times too?Copy !req
165. No, just then
and, you know, maybe at midterms...Copy !req
166. project deadlines...Copy !req
167. maybe once in a while for a party.Copy !req
168. So a lot.Copy !req
169. You were his only customer?Copy !req
170. No. There were, you know,
some other friends.Copy !req
171. What did he charge?Copy !req
172. Ten dollars for a 10-milligram.Copy !req
173. You know where he got them?Copy !req
174. I think he had a prescription.Copy !req
175. You know what he paid to have it filled?Copy !req
176. No.Copy !req
177. Ten-dollar co-pay...Copy !req
178. insurance paid the rest.Copy !req
179. So at his cost of 25 cents each,
the $10 he was charging you...Copy !req
180. comes to a 3900 percent profit for him.Copy !req
181. What's your major in college, Amir?Copy !req
182. Business.Copy !req
183. Do you know what Mr. Khan's is?Copy !req
184. Business.Copy !req
185. Which of you, would you say,
is learning the most?Copy !req
186. I'm done.Copy !req
187. I'm going to bed.Copy !req
188. Night night.Copy !req
189. Fucking cat.Copy !req
190. Hey, Gooden.Copy !req
191. Hey. Come here. Gooden.Copy !req
192. I have no idea who that is.Copy !req
193. Hey! Gooden, come over here!Copy !req
194. - Come here.
- Hold on.Copy !req
195. I wanted to show you something.Copy !req
196. Check it out. No more sandals.Copy !req
197. How about that?Copy !req
198. That's cool.Copy !req
199. I gotta go.Copy !req
200. Wait, Gooden.Copy !req
201. I wanna come over later
and give you something.Copy !req
202. - What?
- A cat.Copy !req
203. Dad, I don't want a cat. I want a pit.Copy !req
204. You don't want a pit.Copy !req
205. Look, I gotta go, all right?Copy !req
206. Tell your mom about the cat.Copy !req
207. Huh.Copy !req
208. Gate!Copy !req
209. Come on.Copy !req
210. Let's go.Copy !req
211. How is he?Copy !req
212. He's fine.Copy !req
213. I'm so worried about him.Copy !req
214. He's fine.Copy !req
215. He didn't even look down
to see how Diaz landed.Copy !req
216. He just walked off
like he was going to class.Copy !req
217. Did you talk to him?Copy !req
218. Yeah. I grabbed him, said,
"What you do that for?"Copy !req
219. What did he say?Copy !req
220. Nothing.Copy !req
221. He just looked at me.Copy !req
222. - Looked at you how?
- Like nonreactive.Copy !req
223. Like he had no idea what he'd done?Copy !req
224. In that neighborhood.Copy !req
225. Your witness.Copy !req
226. This incident took place not long after 9/11.Copy !req
227. How would you describe the mood
of the student body at that time?Copy !req
228. For want of a better word, I'd say patriotic.Copy !req
229. Okay. And in this patriotic atmosphere...Copy !req
230. how would you say
the Muslim students fared?Copy !req
231. It was tough on them, I'll be honest.Copy !req
232. - Racist comments, taunts, that kind of thing?
- Yeah. But Khan was the only one at school...Copy !req
233. who sent two students to the hospital
because of it.Copy !req
234. Two...Copy !req
235. His first week back
after the suspension for the stairs thing...Copy !req
236. he threw a full Coke can
at a kid in the cafeteria.Copy !req
237. Twelve stitches.Copy !req
238. In his face.Copy !req
239. Thank you.Copy !req
240. Mrs. Weiss.Copy !req
241. The state rests, Your Honor.Copy !req
242. There you go.Copy !req
243. That's good. Come on.Copy !req
244. - You okay?
- Ahhh.Copy !req
245. - Yeah.
- You sure?Copy !req
246. No, no, no.Copy !req
247. No, that— Take it. Just take it.Copy !req
248. Where you going?Copy !req
249. Hey!Copy !req
250. Hey! Hey. What—? What the—?Copy !req
251. You think you're invisible?Copy !req
252. The invisible man?Copy !req
253. You talk to my coworkers,
my friends, my ex...Copy !req
254. and you don't think
I'll find out about it?Copy !req
255. Seriously, get this off of me.Copy !req
256. Maybe I should have a little talk
with your ex-wife?Copy !req
257. - Or your son?
- Uhn!Copy !req
258. At that artsy-fartsy school of his.Copy !req
259. Oh, shit.Copy !req
260. Fuck.Copy !req
261. They are strong swimmers,
able to cross rivers five miles wide.Copy !req
262. The river offers this tiger
a place to bathe, hunt or rather, fish...Copy !req
263. You talk to her?Copy !req
264. No.Copy !req
265. You see that, right?Copy !req
266. That's recording us,
and it will be used in court.Copy !req
267. How do you think that's gonna come on?Copy !req
268. "She was nice, I liked her,
but I killed her anyway."Copy !req
269. Detective, what made you so sure so quickly
Nasir Khan was your man?Copy !req
270. The mountain of evidence.Copy !req
271. So why bother questioning him?Copy !req
272. Sometimes a suspect wants nothing more
than to confess.Copy !req
273. - Did he?
- No.Copy !req
274. So that's when you charged him,
when you left the room?Copy !req
275. - No.
- Why not?Copy !req
276. Sometimes the suspect needs time
to think things through.Copy !req
277. So you gave him time,
and he's sitting in the squad pen...Copy !req
278. awaiting transfer downtown.Copy !req
279. That's when he confessed?Copy !req
280. If he had, we wouldn't be here.Copy !req
281. So after the arrest...Copy !req
282. you gave him the opportunity to confess,
and he didn't.Copy !req
283. Then 12 hours later, after you gave him
the opportunity to think, he didn't confess.Copy !req
284. Then when the DA gave him the opportunity
to accept just 15 years...Copy !req
285. instead of a possible life sentence,
he didn't confess.Copy !req
286. I don't know,
15 years sounds like a good deal to me...Copy !req
287. what with a mountain of evidence,
don't you?Copy !req
288. I'll take evidence over a confession
any day of the week.Copy !req
289. Thank you, detective.Copy !req
290. Hey. How you doing?Copy !req
291. Huh?Copy !req
292. Yeah.Copy !req
293. Oh, fuck.Copy !req
294. Come on, let's go. Come on.Copy !req
295. Oh!Copy !req
296. All right, okay.Copy !req
297. You stay in there.Copy !req
298. All right.Copy !req
299. You know, I was thinking
since you were so right on the money...Copy !req
300. with my eczema...Copy !req
301. maybe you have something
for my asthma?Copy !req
302. Get rid of your cat.Copy !req
303. Maybe some kind of root or fish oil
or something I could try?Copy !req
304. Get rid of your cat.Copy !req
305. I don't wanna get rid of my cat.Copy !req
306. Mr. Cutler, what do you do for a living?Copy !req
307. I'm a waiter.Copy !req
308. Any other sources of income?Copy !req
309. Occasionally I acquire things for friends.Copy !req
310. Would these occasional acquisitions
include pharmaceuticals?Copy !req
311. Occasionally.Copy !req
312. - Is the defendant one of your friends?
- No.Copy !req
313. What about Andrea?Copy !req
314. Yes.Copy !req
315. Did she visit you on October 24th
wanting to acquire something?Copy !req
316. A quarter gram of K and six Mollies.Copy !req
317. K, ketamine? Mollies, ecstasy?Copy !req
318. - Yeah.
- And did you—Copy !req
319. I won't say sell. —provide them to her?Copy !req
320. Yeah.Copy !req
321. Something like this for the ketamine?Copy !req
322. Could have been.Copy !req
323. Thank you.Copy !req
324. I sit there every day.
I watch you fight for me.Copy !req
325. I think, "Why is she doing this?"Copy !req
326. It's not for money
because you're not getting paid, I'm sure.Copy !req
327. At least not much.Copy !req
328. It's my job.Copy !req
329. And it's your right.Copy !req
330. Is that all?Copy !req
331. Yeah.Copy !req
332. My dad's the only person in the world
who believes me.Copy !req
333. Your mother does too.Copy !req
334. No.Copy !req
335. Well...Copy !req
336. I do.Copy !req
337. Fuck.Copy !req
338. Officer.Copy !req
339. Thank you.Copy !req
340. - This for Law & Order?
- What?Copy !req
341. Is this for Law & Order?Copy !req
342. - I do a lot of props like this for them.
- Yeah, yeah, Law & Order.Copy !req
343. Yeah?Copy !req
344. I'm at the copy place.Copy !req
345. Living la vida loca of a
high-priced attorney.Copy !req
346. - I'm waiting for them.
- I'm doing them.Copy !req
347. He's doing them.Copy !req
348. Okay? All right.Copy !req
349. All right. Bye.Copy !req
350. I don't know.Copy !req
351. Production assistants
are usually younger than you.Copy !req
352. Can you tell us, Dr. Katz,
what this photograph is?Copy !req
353. That's one of the drawers of the bar cabinet
on the parlor level of the brownstone.Copy !req
354. And we can see that its contents
are a corkscrew...Copy !req
355. a nutcracker, some cocktail napkins...Copy !req
356. some swizzle sticks, and two knives.Copy !req
357. They look similar to this one.Copy !req
358. They're more than similar. They're identical.Copy !req
359. They're all part of the same set.Copy !req
360. As is the missing one.Copy !req
361. The— Excuse me. The what?Copy !req
362. These knives are sold in sets of four.
Can't buy them any other way.Copy !req
363. One is missing.Copy !req
364. Couldn't it be somewhere in the house?Copy !req
365. - I checked everywhere. Not there.
- If this missing knife was there...Copy !req
366. presumably, it could cause
the same wounds as this one?Copy !req
367. Oh, of course.Copy !req
368. Dr. Katz, would you agree
with the medical examiner...Copy !req
369. this was a defensive wound?Copy !req
370. No, because it isn't.Copy !req
371. That wound was made before the attack...Copy !req
372. when the defendant and the victim
were playing a game.Copy !req
373. A game?Copy !req
374. You know, like...Copy !req
375. Please.Copy !req
376. Mumblety-peg?Copy !req
377. I— I don't know. Is that what it's called?Copy !req
378. - Okay.
- Okay, but I mean, I don't play that game.Copy !req
379. I mean, who does? But if you did,
wouldn't you put your hand this way?Copy !req
380. - Palm down.
- Not necessarily.Copy !req
381. It seems more natural, if you ask me...Copy !req
382. - ... if anything about this could be natural.
- It was natural for her...Copy !req
383. this way.Copy !req
384. And she had played that before.Copy !req
385. You can see the scars
in Dr. Chester's own photographs...Copy !req
386. on her hands and elsewhere on her body.
Self-inflicted wounds.Copy !req
387. Why would anyone do that?Copy !req
388. Everyone knows it's not uncommon
among troubled people.Copy !req
389. But still, how can you be certain this wound
happened somewhere other than the bedroom?Copy !req
390. Because of her skin cells
in one of the gouges of the coffee table.Copy !req
391. Really? You saw that
in the crime scene unit's report?Copy !req
392. No. They didn't notice...Copy !req
393. or at least they didn't note these
skin cells, but they're in the table.Copy !req
394. So if this is how this wound occurred
during this game...Copy !req
395. that could explain how the victim's blood
came to be on this knife?Copy !req
396. Yes.Copy !req
397. - This is the basement level.
- Correct.Copy !req
398. - What's this?
- The front gate.Copy !req
399. I notice it's ajar.Copy !req
400. It's ajar because it doesn't close.
It hasn't for years.Copy !req
401. The rust on the latch shows that.Copy !req
402. - And this?
- The front basement door, which does close...Copy !req
403. but the detectives noted
that it was unlocked...Copy !req
404. as was a second-story window
on the garden side.Copy !req
405. Would it be possible for an intruder
to get to that window...Copy !req
406. - ... being a level up from the garden?
- Yes, there's a tree right there.Copy !req
407. - This tree? Okay.
- Mm-hm.Copy !req
408. But how do you know it's scalable?Copy !req
409. Because I scaled it, easily,
and I'm pushing 70.Copy !req
410. You don't look it.Copy !req
411. I feel it sometimes.Copy !req
412. While you were scaling this tree
to the second-floor window...Copy !req
413. could you see the basement-level kitchen?Copy !req
414. No.Copy !req
415. What if you came through the gate
and the door that was unlocked and went up?Copy !req
416. You could see in the kitchen then
since they're on the same level.Copy !req
417. No. I took a picture of this.Copy !req
418. That shows what you see of the kitchen
from the staircase.Copy !req
419. What kitchen?Copy !req
420. Exactly. What kitchen?Copy !req
421. Thank you, Dr. Katz.Copy !req
422. Your witness, Mrs. Weiss.Copy !req
423. Dr. Katz, it's a pleasure to meet you.Copy !req
424. And you.Copy !req
425. Me? Okay, thank you.Copy !req
426. But I'm not famous like you are.Copy !req
427. I'm not famous. No pathologist is famous.Copy !req
428. Maybe— Maybe I'm known in certain
professional circles, but that's about it.Copy !req
429. No one recognizes you on the street?Copy !req
430. If they do, maybe they saw my picture
on the back of one of my books.Copy !req
431. Or on TV?Copy !req
432. Since you've testified in a lot of
high-profile, sometimes televised trials.Copy !req
433. But in pathology,
fame plays no part, does it?Copy !req
434. Whether you're a New York City
medical examiner like Dr. Chester...Copy !req
435. who no one recognizes on the street...Copy !req
436. or an expert witness for O.J. Simpson.Copy !req
437. Objection.Copy !req
438. To what?Copy !req
439. It's a compliment.Copy !req
440. Overruled.Copy !req
441. Is Dr. Chester,
unknown as he may be to the public...Copy !req
442. a good pathologist?Copy !req
443. Since I'm under oath, I'd have to say,
not in my opinion.Copy !req
444. You disagree with him?
Not only about the victim's hand wound...Copy !req
445. but also...Copy !req
446. what he said about this knife wound
on the defendant's hand?Copy !req
447. I do. Because it's not a knife wound...Copy !req
448. caused by his hand slipping
from the handle onto the blade.Copy !req
449. It was cut on a piece of glass
from the broken door pane.Copy !req
450. So he doesn't know
what he's talking about?Copy !req
451. I'd like to find a nicer way to put it.Copy !req
452. How about like this?Copy !req
453. "Dr. Chester is a modern day giant
in the field of forensic pathology.Copy !req
454. We'd all be well-advised
to try to emulate his wisdom...Copy !req
455. and scientific exactitude."Copy !req
456. You know who said that?Copy !req
457. Me.Copy !req
458. - Where?
- A testimonial dinner.Copy !req
459. Your praise sounds so sincere.Copy !req
460. - Are you saying it wasn't?
- You're asked to speak about someone...Copy !req
461. do you embarrass them
by saying what you really think?Copy !req
462. You could decline to speak.Copy !req
463. But that would have embarrassed him
just as much.Copy !req
464. So, what were you really thinking up there
in front of all those people...Copy !req
465. saying things you didn't believe to
be true in such a convincing manner?Copy !req
466. Honestly?Copy !req
467. Dessert.Copy !req
468. The knife you described
as missing from its set...Copy !req
469. do you know when it was bought?Copy !req
470. No, but I know it couldn't have been later
than 2008...Copy !req
471. since that's when that model
was discontinued.Copy !req
472. I bought my husband an electric drill...Copy !req
473. with an array of two dozen drill bits
in 2008.Copy !req
474. Admittedly,
not the most romantic birthday gift...Copy !req
475. but he's a happy putterer.Copy !req
476. Well, so am I. I'd find it romantic.Copy !req
477. - My point is—
- I think we already know.Copy !req
478. Dr. Katz, we've both been doing what we do
for a long time...Copy !req
479. and it's put us in courtrooms
for too many days.Copy !req
480. But as a result,
we know the rules of the court...Copy !req
481. and one of them
is you answer the questions I ask...Copy !req
482. not ones I don't.Copy !req
483. Sure. Okay.Copy !req
484. After six years,
how many of those 24 drill bits...Copy !req
485. do you think are still in their case?Copy !req
486. None of them.Copy !req
487. None of them.Copy !req
488. My husband has lost them all.Copy !req
489. Then I know what you should get him
for Christmas.Copy !req
490. He doesn't deserve it.Copy !req
491. Okay. Now you can answer the question
I haven't asked...Copy !req
492. because you know what it is.Copy !req
493. The missing fourth knife
could have been lost...Copy !req
494. or chewed up in the garbage disposal
or thrown out at some point in time.Copy !req
495. And this.Copy !req
496. This wound on the victim's hand,
which occurred, you say...Copy !req
497. during a game
none of us would wanna play.Copy !req
498. But if we did, if you did...Copy !req
499. do you really think,
as the blood is running down your arm...Copy !req
500. and pooling on the table...Copy !req
501. you'd feel like having sex?Copy !req
502. Or would you rather wanna be rushed
to the emergency room?Copy !req
503. Personally, the emergency room...Copy !req
504. but I understand
there were a lot of drugs involved.Copy !req
505. Okay. Thank you, Dr. Katz.Copy !req
506. It really has been a pleasure meeting you.Copy !req
507. I'm confused.Copy !req
508. Is this yours?Copy !req
509. - Yeah.
- Because it's gone now.Copy !req
510. - It's not in evidence.
- I don't have it anymore.Copy !req
511. I know you don't have it anymore.Copy !req
512. You left it there, but they should have it.Copy !req
513. Well, I had it. They took it to The Tombs.Copy !req
514. How could you have had it then if it's here?Copy !req
515. Oh, because he gave it back to me
that night.Copy !req
516. In the squad room.Copy !req
517. Who did?Copy !req
518. The detective.Copy !req
519. Box?Copy !req
520. - Excited about the big night?
- Thrilled.Copy !req
521. - Can I help you with that?
- You can move. That'd help.Copy !req
522. Do you swear to tell the truth,
the whole truth and nothing but the truth?Copy !req
523. Yes.Copy !req
524. Detective, welcome back.Copy !req
525. I heard you're about to retire.Copy !req
526. I heard that too.Copy !req
527. - Congratulations.
- Thank you.Copy !req
528. - How long has it been?
- Thirty-three years.Copy !req
529. Well, you'll be sorely missed by colleagues,
I'm sure. And by us, the public, too.Copy !req
530. We thank you for your service.Copy !req
531. Can you tell us, in your investigation,
how many suspects you interviewed?Copy !req
532. One, the defendant.Copy !req
533. Not Trevor Williams?Copy !req
534. Yeah.Copy !req
535. This towelhead.Copy !req
536. He was a witness, so yes, of course,
I spoke to him.Copy !req
537. As a result of that,
you didn't do any follow-ups?Copy !req
538. Nothing to follow up.Copy !req
539. You didn't interview Duane Reade?Copy !req
540. Someone at Duane Reade?Copy !req
541. An individual named Duane Reade.Copy !req
542. Is that a joke?Copy !req
543. No, but I'm sure he gets that a lot.
He was with Mr. Williams...Copy !req
544. when he had words with the defendant
and Miss Cornish outside her home that night.Copy !req
545. - But you didn't interview him?
- Mr. Williams said he was alone...Copy !req
546. so, no, I didn't interview anyone
he wasn't with.Copy !req
547. So you're unaware of Mr. Reade's
numerous convictions for aggravated assault?Copy !req
548. - What about Royal Day?
- Who's he?Copy !req
549. A friend of Duane Reade's?Copy !req
550. The other eyewitness.Copy !req
551. Mr. Caval, who lives across the street
who called in the break-in...Copy !req
552. was the other eyewitness.Copy !req
553. No, he's another eyewitness,
but, like Mr. Reade, not the only other one.Copy !req
554. You didn't interview Mr. Day?Copy !req
555. Again, I don't interview people
I don't know about.Copy !req
556. You know about him. You've seen him.
In the security tapes at the Shell station.Copy !req
557. He too had an unpleasant encounter
with the victim and defendant that night.Copy !req
558. You sure you didn't interview him?Copy !req
559. Asked and answered.Copy !req
560. In your 19 years in Homicide,
how many crime scenes have you worked?Copy !req
561. I don't know. Three hundred, give or take.Copy !req
562. And at these 300, give or take,
crime scenes...Copy !req
563. at any crime scene,
it's important, isn't it...Copy !req
564. that evidence is examined,
photographed, cataloged...Copy !req
565. and carefully stored?Copy !req
566. Obviously.Copy !req
567. What's that?Copy !req
568. An asthma inhaler.Copy !req
569. Any idea where it is?Copy !req
570. - You'd have to ask him.
- Who?Copy !req
571. The defendant. I gave it to him.Copy !req
572. What he did with it, I wouldn't know.Copy !req
573. I'm sorry, you gave it—?Copy !req
574. Yeah. Should I say it again?Copy !req
575. I'm trying to understand this.Copy !req
576. You're saying you took it from the scene...Copy !req
577. - ... and gave it to him?
- Right.Copy !req
578. Why?Copy !req
579. Because he needed it.Copy !req
580. He was distressed.
He was having trouble breathing.Copy !req
581. Instead of taking him to the hospital...Copy !req
582. which is how it's supposed to work
when that happens...Copy !req
583. you removed evidence
from the crime scene?Copy !req
584. Yes, I did. Because it had been photographed
and logged...Copy !req
585. so there was no reason not to.Copy !req
586. Other than it runs counter
to standard rules and practices...Copy !req
587. regarding chain of evidence
and is grossly unprofessional?Copy !req
588. Which, with 33 years' experience,
you'd certainly know.Copy !req
589. He was suffering.Copy !req
590. My apologies
for trying to lessen his suffering.Copy !req
591. That's why you did it?Copy !req
592. Not because it didn't fit?Copy !req
593. I really don't know what that means.Copy !req
594. If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit.Copy !req
595. An inhaler doesn't fit how we picture
a crazed killer trying to stab someone...Copy !req
596. 22 times between hits off his Ventolin.Copy !req
597. No. That's not why.Copy !req
598. I told you why.Copy !req
599. I'm not saying
you consciously thought about it.Copy !req
600. I'm wondering if maybe
it was subconscious.Copy !req
601. If you were having doubts about his guilt
from the beginning.Copy !req
602. - Subconscious?
- Mm-hm.Copy !req
603. Well, if one could describe what goes on
in their subconscious mind...Copy !req
604. it wouldn't be subconscious, would it?Copy !req
605. So I guess there's no way for us to know.Copy !req
606. Unless you got Freud out there
waiting to be called.Copy !req
607. Mrs. Weiss.Copy !req
608. I have no questions.Copy !req
609. - Hey!
- Hey!Copy !req
610. Whoo!Copy !req
611. What I'm gonna do now?Copy !req
612. Shit is all fucked up now.Copy !req
613. Shit was going good too.Copy !req
614. The fuck he do that for?
He ain't had to do nothing but sit.Copy !req
615. You, his moms did everything.Copy !req
616. I didn't know him any better than you.
I don't know.Copy !req
617. There goes the party train.Copy !req
618. - Hey!
- Hey!Copy !req
619. Off duty. Like you are most of the time.Copy !req
620. That's it.Copy !req
621. Just kidding. Hey, we got you—Copy !req
622. We got you something else.Copy !req
623. - There you are.
- Yeah.Copy !req
624. Here we go!Copy !req
625. Thank you.Copy !req
626. You got something you wanna tell me?Copy !req
627. About Petey?Copy !req
628. Yeah.Copy !req
629. The only pleasure I had...Copy !req
630. is knowing
how much of a pound of flesh...Copy !req
631. both of you clowns have had to pay
for your decisions.Copy !req
632. tell me your feelings is done...Copy !req
633. Yo, I need a new one.Copy !req
634. I don't know why.
But I don't know why other...Copy !req
635. I don't understand why both of you
spend all this time wasting my air...Copy !req
636. talking about
how you could've gotten it done.Copy !req
637. You didn't. Why didn't you get it done?Copy !req
638. I can't even give you
an honest answer why...Copy !req
639. Oh, okay. Well, then...Copy !req
640. Hey! Back up, man!Copy !req
641. Back up!Copy !req
642. Hey, watch it!Copy !req
643. - Hey!
- Fuck!Copy !req
644. Send a squad to the annex.Copy !req
645. Squad to the annex.Copy !req
646. Send a squad. I see blood.Copy !req
647. When you don't pay bills,
they cancel your phone.Copy !req
648. Send a squad to the annex.
Send a squad now.Copy !req
649. they charge you something.Copy !req
650. Okay? These are the things that happen
when you don't pay your bills.Copy !req
651. I— I've never had—
- What's the mystery?Copy !req
652. What's taking you so long?Copy !req
653. And if someone had come
to my home and taken it...Copy !req