1. What we have here is the same
scenario as Andrea Cornish.
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2. Would you agree?
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3. So where's all the news trucks?
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4. Your basic uptown misdemeanor homicide.
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5. What kind of knife
was used in this attack?
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6. One with a single-edged
non-serrated blade,
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7. approximately five inches in length.
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8. Something like... this one?
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9. Yes.
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10. And what about this wound
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12. That cut is the result
of his hand slipping
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13. from the handle of the knife
onto the blade of the knife
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14. in the act of stabbing her.
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15. Your witness.
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16. Dr. Chester,
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17. did you hear Mrs. Weiss ask you
the total number of wounds?
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18. No.
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19. Me neither. I wonder why that is?
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20. Perhaps because we can see them.
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21. We can, that's true,
and they're hard to look at,
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22. but how many of them are there?
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23. - Twenty-two.
- And what does that tell you?
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24. It tells me she was stabbed 22 times.
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25. That's all? Such a great
number of wounds?
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26. Well, some people would say
it indicates a crime of passion.
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27. That it was personal?
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28. That the killer had something
against the victim?
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29. Some would say.
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30. But not me, because
I've seen it both ways.
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31. This cut is very important
to the State's case.
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32. Any chance you could be
mistaken about what caused it?
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33. No.
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34. Have you ever made a mistake
that sent an innocent man to prison?
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35. No.
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36. Arthur Metz didn't go to prison because
of your testimony at his trial?
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37. You don't remember him?
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38. No, I do.
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39. So you remember that Mr.
Metz was later exonerated
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40. based on a reexamination
of your findings?
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41. My findings were disputed,
not disproven.
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42. I didn't say disputed or disproven,
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43. but whatever we want to call it,
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44. Mr. Metz is now a free man.
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45. Unless he's back in prison
for some other crime.
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46. He's not back in
prison for some other crime.
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47. And wasn't in
prison for some other crime
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48. before your testimony put him there.
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49. It wasn't a mistake.
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50. The appellate court disagreed.
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51. It had a different interpretation,
that's all.
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52. That's all we're talking about here,
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53. a different interpretation,
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54. to avoid you having to come back,
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55. like you had to with Mr. Metz.
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56. Everything that goes on
in there is important.
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57. How Naz sits, what he wears,
what his eyes say,
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58. who's there to support him, who isn't.
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59. I know it's not easy
to look at those pictures,
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60. but the jury has to, and so do you.
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61. You can't get up and leave like that.
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62. An animal did that.
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63. Yeah. You're right.
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64. Did I raise an animal?
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65. What?
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66. He wants to talk to you.
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67. If you get a call with the ID
unavailable, it's probably him.
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68. We talked to our lawyer.
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69. He said we won't get
the cab back no matter what.
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70. We're buying a new one.
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71. An old new one.
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72. That's great.
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73. It's ours.
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74. Not yours.
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75. What are you talking
about? It's mine too.
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76. No.
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77. The car we can't get back
is yours, not this one.
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78. This one is mine too.
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79. A third of the medallion is mine.
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80. You cannot operate any car without me.
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81. So sell us your third.
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82. You don't have the money.
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83. You don't have the money for anything.
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84. We have the money. We can get the money.
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85. It will solve your problems.
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86. You want it?
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87. I want what is right...
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88. Us working together, like always.
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89. No.
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90. Okay.
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91. Okay. Good.
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92. $75,000.
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93. It's worth $250,000.
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94. Why would I do that?
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95. Because that's all we are going to pay.
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96. And it will take us
years to work that off.
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97. I'll sell it to someone else.
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98. We are not going to work
with some deadbeat.
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99. Someone who pays the full price
is a deadbeat and you're not?
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100. We didn't put us here.
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101. You did, your son.
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102. Look what he has done to all of us.
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103. To all of us.
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104. You're thieves.
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105. I don't do business with thieves.
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106. You are the father of a killer.
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107. What's that?
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108. It's a photo of the defendant's back
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109. taken at the precinct
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110. approximately an hour
after he was arrested.
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111. Detective, could those
scratches simply be
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112. the result of, I'll say, "lovemaking,"
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114. Well, I don't know, but I can tell you
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115. a considerable amount of his
skin was found under her fingernails.
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116. Other than that, you should ask Cupid.
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117. - You okay?
- Yeah, no problem.
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118. You're doing great.
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119. Hey, isn't that the guy on the news?
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120. His daughter was killed by that cabbie?
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121. Stepdaughter.
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122. Did you know her?
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123. No.
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124. He must be pretty broken up, huh?
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125. What business is that of yours?
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126. I'm just saying.
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128. Good.
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129. Hey.
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130. So, he's got a Visa,
Mastercard, and Amex, all maxed.
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131. If he files for
bankruptcy, it'll be the third time.
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132. I appreciate this.
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133. Criminal records I can get.
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134. Credit cards, they're tough.
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135. Yeah. I took a look at yours.
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136. I'm kidding.
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137. Oh, I also ran across this.
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138. You may want to talk to her.
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139. My first husband was a deadbeat too.
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140. Guess I've got a type.
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141. Yeah. My wife's got a type.
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142. I'm not it.
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143. Look, I'm not stupid.
I knew what he wanted.
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144. And I knew what I wanted.
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145. He was young, good-looking,
I have money.
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146. Guess you could call that
some kind of prostitution,
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147. but worked for us.
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148. Until the night I had to call 911
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149. with his hands around my throat.
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150. Really?
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151. Cops were quick, thank God.
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152. Did you press charges?
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153. Oh, yeah. They hauled him off.
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154. Next time I saw him was
across the conference table
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155. with the divorce lawyers,
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156. both of whom I was paying for
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157. since he didn't have a dime to his name.
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158. Mine said, "Jeannie,
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159. "do you want to save some money?
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160. Give him 200 grand and walk away."
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161. Best legal advice I ever got.
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162. You know why divorce is so expensive?
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163. - Because it's worth it.
- Because it's worth it.
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164. Right.
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166. A personal trainer, apparently.
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167. I mean his real line of work.
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168. He's a trapeze artist.
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169. Swings from one old bag to another.
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170. Don't sell yourself short.
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171. I'm not.
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172. It was a joke.
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173. How you doing?
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174. I'm fine.
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175. Don't say it.
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176. How often did you buy
amphetamines from the defendant?
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177. They were just Adderall.
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178. Which we know now from earlier testimony
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179. is stronger than
your average amphetamine.
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180. How often did you buy it from him?
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181. Just mainly at finals.
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182. Mainly.
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184. No, just then and,
you know, maybe midterms,
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187. So, a lot.
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188. You were his only customer?
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189. No. There were, you know,
some other friends.
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190. What did he charge?
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191. Ten dollars for a 10 milligram.
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195. No.
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202. Business.
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203. Do you know what Mr. Khan's is?
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204. Business.
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205. Which of you, would you say,
is learning the most?
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206. I'm done.
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207. I'm going to bed.
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208. Night night.
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209. Fucking cat.
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210. Hey, Gooden!
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211. Hey, come here. Gooden!
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212. I have no idea who that is.
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213. Hey! Gooden, come over here!
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214. Come here!
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216. I wanted to show you something.
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217. Check it out. No more sandals.
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218. How 'bout that?
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219. That's cool.
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220. I gotta go.
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221. Wait, Gooden.
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and give you something.
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223. What?
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224. A cat.
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225. Dad, I don't want a cat. I want a pit.
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226. You don't want a pit.
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227. Look, I gotta go, all right?
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229. Huh.
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230. Gate!
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231. Come on.
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232. Let's go.
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236. He's fine.
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237. He didn't even look down the
stairs to see how Diaz landed.
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238. He just walked off
like he was going to class.
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239. - Did you talk to him?
- Oh, yeah.
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240. I grabbed him straight away,
said, "What the hell you do that for?"
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241. What did he say?
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242. Nothing.
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245. Like nonreactive.
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246. Like he had no idea what he'd done?
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247. In that neighborhood.
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248. Your witness.
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249. This incident took place
not long after 9/11.
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250. How would you describe the mood
of the student body at that time?
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251. Uh, for want of a
better word, I'd say patriotic.
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252. Okay. And in this patriotic atmosphere,
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Muslim students fared?
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254. It was tough on them, I'll be honest.
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255. Racist comments, taunts,
that kind of thing.
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256. Yeah, but Khan was
the only one at school
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hospital because of it.
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258. Two...
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for the stairs thing,
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260. he threw a full Coke can
at a kid in the cafeteria.
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261. Twelve stitches.
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262. In his face.
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263. Thank you.
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264. Mrs. Weiss.
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265. The State rests, Your Honor.
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266. There you go. That's good. Come on.
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267. You okay?
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268. Yeah.
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269. You sure?
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270. No, no, no.
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271. No, just take it. Just take it.
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276. Aah!
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278. The invisible man?
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279. You talk to my coworkers,
my friends, my ex,
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280. and you don't think
I'll find out about it?
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281. Seriously, get this off of me.
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282. Maybe I should have a
little talk with your ex-wife?
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283. Or your son?
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284. At that artsy-fartsy school of his.
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285. Oh, shit.
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286. Fuck.
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288. able to cross rivers five miles wide.
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289. The river offers this
tiger a place to bathe,
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290. hunt, or rather, fish...
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291. You talk to her?
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293. Unlike most cats, tigers
are comfortable in water.
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294. This tiger clearly is.
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296. You see that, right?
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297. That's recording us, and
it will be used in court.
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298. How do you think that's gonna come on?
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299. "She was nice, I liked her,
but I killed her anyway."
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300. Detective, what made
you so sure so quickly
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301. Nasir Khan was your man?
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302. The mountain of evidence.
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303. So why bother questioning him?
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304. Sometimes a suspect wants
nothing more than to confess.
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305. - Did he?
- No.
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306. So, that's when you charged him,
when you left the interview room?
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307. No.
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308. Why not?
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309. Sometimes the suspect needs
time to think things through.
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310. So, you gave him some time, and he's
sitting in the squad room pen,
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311. awaiting transfer downtown.
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312. That's when he confessed?
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313. If he had, we wouldn't be here.
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314. So, after the arrest, you gave him
the opportunity to confess and he didn't.
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315. Then 12 hours later, after you gave him
the opportunity to think about it,
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317. Then when the DA gave him the opportunity
to accept just 15 years
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320. I don't know, 15 years sounds
like a pretty good deal to me,
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of evidence, don't you?
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322. I'll take evidence over a confession
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323. any day of the week.
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324. Thank you, Detective.
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325. Hey.
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326. How you doing?
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327. Huh?
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328. Yeah.
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329. Oh, fuck.
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330. Come on, let's go. Come on.
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331. Oh!
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332. All right, okay.
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333. You stay in there.
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334. All right.
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336. Since you were so right
on the money with my eczema,
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337. maybe you have something for my asthma?
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338. Get rid of your cat.
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339. Maybe some kind of root or fish oil,
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341. Get rid of your cat.
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342. I don't want to get rid of my cat.
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345. I'm a waiter.
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351. Occasionally.
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353. No.
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355. Yes.
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356. Did she visit you on October 24th
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357. wanting to acquire something?
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358. A quarter-gram of K and six Mollies.
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359. K, ketamine? Mollies, ecstasy?
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360. Yeah.
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- Yeah.
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364. Could have been.
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365. Thank you.
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366. I sit there every day.
I watch you fight for me.
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367. I think, "Why is she doing this?"
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368. I mean, it's not for the money
'cause you're not getting paid,
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369. I'm sure, at least not much.
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372. Is that all?
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373. Yeah.
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374. My dad's the only person
in the world who believes me.
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376. No.
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378. Fuck.
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379. Officer.
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380. Thank you.
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385. Yeah, yeah, "Law & Order."
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386. Yeah?
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387. I'm at the copy place.
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388. Living the vida loca
of a high-priced attorney.
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389. I'm waiting for them.
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390. - I'm doing them.
- He's doing them.
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393. I don't know. Production
assistants are usually younger than you.
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394. Can you tell us, Dr.
Katz, what this photograph is?
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of the bar cabinet
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contents are a corkscrew, a nutcracker,
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napkins, some swizzle sticks,
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They're identical.
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somewhere else in the house?
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everywhere. It's not there.
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same wounds to the victim as this one?
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with the medical examiner
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415. No, because it isn't.
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victim were playing a game.
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- You know, like, uh...
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421. I don't know. Is that what it's called?
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don't play that game.
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this game could be natural.
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430. It was natural for her this way.
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Dr. Chester's own photographs,
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uncommon among troubled people.
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certain this particular wound
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other than the bedroom?
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of the coffee table.
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the crime scene unit's report?
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note these skin cells,
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occurred during this game,
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the victim's blood
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450. Correct.
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- The front gate.
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453. It's ajar because it
doesn't close. It hasn't for years.
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which does close,
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detectives noted that it was unlocked,
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on the garden side.
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to that window, though,
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- Okay.
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466. Because I scaled it, easily,
and I'm pushing 70.
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to the second-floor window,
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basement-level kitchen?
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the gate that won't close
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unlocked and went up the staircase?
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kitchen then, I imagine,
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477. That shows what you see of
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478. What kitchen?
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479. Exactly. What kitchen?
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480. Thank you, Dr. Katz.
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481. Your witness, Mrs. Weiss.
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482. Dr. Katz,
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483. it's a pleasure to meet you.
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484. And you.
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485. Me? Okay, thank you.
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486. But I'm not famous like you are.
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487. I'm not famous. No pathologist
is famous.
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488. Maybe I'm known in certain
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489. but that's about it.
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490. No one recognizes you on the street?
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491. If they do, maybe they saw my
picture on the back of one of my books.
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492. Or on TV?
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493. Since you've testified
in a lot of high-profile,
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494. sometimes televised trials.
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495. But in pathology, fame
plays no part, does it?
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496. Whether you're a New York
City medical examiner
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497. like Dr. Chester,
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499. or an expert witness for O.J. Simpson.
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500. Objection.
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501. To what?
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502. It's a compliment.
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503. Overruled.
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504. Is Dr. Chester, unknown
as he may be to the public,
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506. Since I'm under oath, I'd have
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507. You disagree with him?
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508. Not only about the victim's hand wound,
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509. but also...
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510. what he said about this knife wound
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511. on the defendant's hand?
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512. I do. Because it's not
a knife wound caused
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513. by his hand slipping from
the handle onto the blade.
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514. It was cut on a piece of glass
from the broken door pane.
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515. So, he doesn't know
what he's talking about?
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516. I'd like to find a nicer way to put it.
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517. How about like this.
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518. "Dr. Chester is a modern day giant
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519. in the field of forensic pathology.
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520. We'd all be well-advised
to try to emulate his wisdom
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521. and scientific exactitude."
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522. You know who said that?
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523. Me.
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524. - Where?
- A testimonial dinner.
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526. Are you saying it wasn't?
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527. You're asked to speak about someone,
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528. do you embarrass them by saying
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529. You could decline to speak.
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530. But that would have embarrassed
him just as much.
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531. So, what were you really thinking
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532. up there in front of all those people
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533. saying things you
didn't believe to be true
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534. in such a convincing manner?
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535. Honestly? Dessert.
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536. The knife you described
as missing from its set,
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537. do you know when it was bought?
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538. No, but I know it
couldn't have been later than 2008
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539. since that's when that
model was discontinued.
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540. I bought my husband an electric drill
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541. with an array of two dozen
drill bits in 2008.
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542. Admittedly, not the most
romantic birthday gift,
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543. but he's a happy putterer.
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544. Well, so am I. I'd find it romantic.
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545. - My point is...
- I think we already know.
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546. Dr. Katz...
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547. we've both been doing
what we do for a long time,
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548. and it's put us in courtrooms
for too many days.
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549. But as a result, we know
the rules of the court,
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550. and one of them is you answer
the questions I ask,
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551. not ones I don't.
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552. Sure. Okay.
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553. After six years, how
many of those 24 drill bits
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554. do you think are still in their case?
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555. None of them.
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556. None of them.
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557. My husband has lost them all.
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558. Then I know what you
should get him for Christmas.
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559. He doesn't deserve it.
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560. Okay.
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561. Now you can answer the
question I haven't asked
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562. 'cause you know what it is.
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563. The missing fourth knife,
it could have been lost
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564. or chewed up in the garbage disposal,
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565. or thrown out at some point in time.
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566. And this.
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567. This wound on the victim's hand,
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568. which occurred, you say,
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569. during a game none of
us would want to play.
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570. But if we did, if you did,
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571. do you really think, as the blood
is running down your arm
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572. and pooling on the table,
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573. you'd feel like having sex?
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574. Or would you rather
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575. want to be rushed to the emergency room?
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576. Personally, the emergency room,
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577. but I understand there were
a lot of drugs involved.
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578. Okay.
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579. Thank you, Dr. Katz.
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580. It really has been a
pleasure meeting you.
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581. I'm confused.
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582. Is this yours?
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583. Yeah.
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584. Because it's gone now.
It's not in evidence.
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585. Well, I don't have it anymore.
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586. I know you don't have it anymore.
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587. You left it there,
but they should have it.
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588. Well, I had it. They
took it to the tombs.
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589. How could you have
had it then if it's here?
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590. Oh, because he gave it
back to me that night,
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591. in the squad room.
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592. Who did?
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593. The detective.
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594. Box?
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595. Excited about the big night?
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596. Thrilled.
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597. Can I help you with that?
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598. You can move, that'd help.
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599. Do you swear or
affirm to tell the truth,
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nothing but the truth?
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601. Yes.
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602. Detective, welcome back.
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603. I heard you're about to retire.
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604. I heard that too.
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605. - Congratulations.
- Thank you.
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606. How long has it been?
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607. Thirty-three years.
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608. Well, you'll be sorely
missed by your colleagues, I'm sure,
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609. and by us, the public, too.
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610. We thank you for your service.
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611. Can you tell us in the course
of your investigation
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613. One, the defendant.
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614. Not Trevor Williams?
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615. Yeah.
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616. This towelhead.
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617. He was a witness, so, yes,
of course, I spoke to him.
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interview, you didn't do any follow-ups?
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619. Nothing to follow up.
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620. You didn't interview Duane Reade?
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621. Someone at Duane Reade?
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622. An individual named Duane Reade.
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624. No, but I'm sure he gets that a lot.
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625. He was with Mr. Williams when
he had words with the defendant
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626. and Ms. Cornish
outsider her home that night.
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627. But you didn't interview him?
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628. Mr. Williams said he was alone,
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interview anyone he wasn't with.
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630. So you're unaware of
Mr. Reade's numerous
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632. What about Royal Day?
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633. Who's he? A friend of Duane Reade's?
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634. The other eyewitness.
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635. Mr. Caval, who lives across the street
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636. who called in the break-in
was the other eyewitness.
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637. No, he's another eyewitness,
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638. but, like Mr. Reade,
not the only other one.
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639. You didn't interview Mr. Day?
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640. Again, I don't interview
people I don't know about.
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642. In the security tapes
at the Shell station.
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643. He too had an unpleasant encounter
with the victim and defendant that night.
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644. Are you sure you didn't interview him?
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645. Asked and answered.
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647. how many crime scenes have you worked?
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648. I don't know. Three hundred,
give or take.
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649. And at these 300,
give or take, crime scenes,
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650. at any crime scene,
it's important, isn't it,
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651. that evidence is examined,
photographed, cataloged,
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652. and carefully stored?
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653. Obviously.
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654. What's that?
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655. An asthma inhaler.
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656. Any idea where it is?
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657. - You'd have to ask him.
- Who?
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658. The defendant. I gave it to him.
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659. What he did with it, I wouldn't know.
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661. Yeah. Should I say it again?
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663. You're saying you took
it from the crime scene,
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- That's right.
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665. Why?
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666. Because he needed it.
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667. He was distressed. He
was having trouble breathing.
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work when something like that happens,
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from the crime scene?
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671. Yes, I did.
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photographed and logged,
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674. Other than it runs counter to standard
police rules and practices
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675. regarding chain of evidence
and is grossly unprofessional?
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676. Which, with 33 years experience,
you would certainly know.
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677. He was suffering.
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678. My apologies for trying
to lessen his suffering.
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680. Not because it didn't fit?
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681. I really don't know what that means.
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682. "If the glove don't fit,
you must acquit."
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683. An inhaler doesn't fit how we picture
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693. Well, if one could describe what goes
on in their sub-conscious mind,
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695. So, I guess there's
no way for us to know.
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696. Unless you got Freud out there
waiting to be called.
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699. Hey! Here he is!
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700. What I'm gonna do now?
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701. Shit is all fucked up now.
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702. Shit was going good, too.
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703. What the fuck he do that for? He ain't
had to do nothing but sit there?
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704. You and his moms did everything.
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705. I didn't know him any
better than you. I don't know.
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706. There goes the party train.
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707. "Off-duty." Like you
are most of the time.
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708. Ah!
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709. That's it. Ah, just kidding!
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710. Hey, we got you...
We got you something else.
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711. Here we go!
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714. Yeah.
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715. Yeah!
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716. The only pleasure I have
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717. is knowing how much of a pound of flesh
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720. Yo, I need a new one.
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721. Fuck!
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722. Send a squad to the annex!
Squad to the annex!
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723. Send a squad now!
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