1. Larry Sanders:
Please welcome Hugh Hefner.
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2. Hugh Hefner, everyone.
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3. It's a pleasure.
I don't do this
very often.
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4. No, you don't do
this very often,
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5. and that's why it's special
that you're here, Hef.
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6. May I call you Hef?
You may.
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7. Okay, and you can
call me Larry.
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8. Okay, Larry.
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9. Um, tell me how you
select these women.
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10. I've always wished
that I could be in on
that selection process.
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11. How does this all start?
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12. Well it begins with, um,
uh, pictures coming
in to the magazine,
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13. and sometimes by photographers,
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14. sometimes the girls
themselves
send the pictures in
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15. and if they look promising
then test shots are made,
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16. and if the test shots look
promising then they go ahead
and do the centerfold.
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17. I see, you don't have
any of those test
shots with you, do you?
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18. I don't, I—
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19. Now, you are married now, right?
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20. I am indeed.
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21. And, uh—
With two, two small boys.
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22. Two small boys,
so future playboys.
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23. So to say.
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24. How does your wife
deal with the business,
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25. because after all you're
surrounded by just
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26. gorgeous women,
is that ever a problem?
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27. Well remember, she was
a Playmate of the Year.
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28. Well, I didn't want to
say anything, but,
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29. yeah, we've all seen her.
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30. And you're a lucky man,
very lucky man.
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31. Good for you.
I am a lucky man, yes.
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32. How did you meet her?
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33. Well, she happened to be,
as a matter of fact
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34. she was already in the magazine,
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35. uh, and her centerfold
had already appeared.
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36. And she was here
in Los Angeles
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37. staying at the mansion,
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38. shooting a pictorial
with Helmut Newton.
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39. So did you bump into her
at the mansion?
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40. Yes, I asked her— we were
watching a movie one night
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41. and I asked her if she wanted
to watch a film with me.
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42. Now you, this is,
this is great.
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43. You have this great advantage
because these woman are
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44. in your house to begin with,
they're in your house.
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45. And I've already
seen test photos.
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46. And you've seen test photos,
so it's kind of like
you're walking,
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47. maybe you're going
to the kitchen to get
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48. something from the fridge
and you bump into Miss January.
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49. Yes, that's the way it is,
the way it is.
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50. And you say, hey,
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51. that's about all you need
to say 'cause you're—
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52. "Hey" often works.
"Hey" is all you need.
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53. All right, we'll come
right back with more
Hugh Hefner.
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54. Stay tuned.
Don't flip around.
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55. You have a little hair up there
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56. coming down.
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57. All right, when we
come back, we'll go
into the scenario
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58. about your wife being
jealous about your work.
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59. I'd rather stay
away from that.
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60. Excuse me, Hef,
you're doing great.
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61. Thank you.
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62. Um, I just want
you to know that
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63. it is an honor to be
this close to you.
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64. Well, thank you
very much, Frank.
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65. You know what?
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66. Um, in my bedroom,
in a box next to my bed,
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67. I have every tape of every
Playboy After Dark ever made.
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68. I take that as
a real compliment.
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69. Yes.
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70. You know I do quite
a lot of reading
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71. about the parties
at the mansion, whew,
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72. that would be a hoot to be
invited to one of those.
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73. I imagine it would be.
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74. Darlene, can
I have some water.
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75. Want some?
No, no. Thank you.
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76. Go ahead,
I don t have anything.
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77. No, really.
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78. Thank you.
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79. Who is that?
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80. That's my assistant Darlene,
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81. Darlene Chapinni.
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82. She's, uh, she's from
Madison, Wisconsin,
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83. and her hobbies include—
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84. Is he bothering you?
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85. horseback riding, old movies.
Mm-hmm.
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86. Yeah, he is, isn't he?
I'm sorry.
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87. But Jesus, did
you see the way Hank
was all over Hefner.
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88. He did everything
but hump his leg.
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89. You must have looked
away for a second.
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90. You know, I have to, uh,
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91. get going because—
you know where my keys are?
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92. Oh, I got them.
Well— okay.
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93. I have to get my place ready for
the Architectural Digest people.
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94. But that's late tomorrow.
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95. Yeah, but, you know, I want it
to look, you know, perfect.
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96. I have never seen you get
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97. so excited over
a piece of publicity.
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98. It's Architectural Digest.
I always wanted
my house in there
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99. ever since I saw, you know,
Carson's place.
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100. Oh, Johnny Carson.
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101. That, that, that
was a wonderful house.
Great house.
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102. Yes, you used to be
able to stand on the roof
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103. and watch
Angie Dickinson sunbathe.
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104. You know, the problem
I have is Francine doesn't
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105. want to be in any
of those photos.
Ah.
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106. Well, what do
you think I should do?
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107. Oh, no, no, no.
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108. I refuse to get involved
in this, absolutely no.
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109. All right, but you're
coming over a little later,
right?
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110. In about an hour. You want me,
you want me to bring anything?
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111. Uh, you know what, the, there's
a plant on the talk show set,
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112. just to my left, the big one?
Why don't you grab—
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113. What about this one?
This is a Mediterranean Ficus.
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114. It's a very classy plant,
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115. look perfect next
to your fireplace.
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116. You think so? No.
Yes!
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117. Darlene, after many years
of trying, Hank Kingsley
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118. is going to appear in Playboy.
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119. You got the interview.
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120. I knew it would
happen someday, Hank.
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121. I'm so happy for you.
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122. Well, thank you.
This is great.
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123. Thank you. It's actually
not the interview,
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124. it's a, it's a, it's
a feature about women
who work in television.
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125. But, Hank, you're a man.
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126. Right, but you're a woman.
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127. Now it's a, it's a,
it's a piece
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128. and it's called
"The Sidekick's Sidekick."
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129. And it has some shots
of you and me in the office
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130. and on the set
and out on the town
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131. and mostly it's
a spread about you.
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132. They want me to pose?
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133. Sorry?
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134. Pose? Uh, uh, yeah.
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135. Naked?
Uh, naked, yeah.
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136. I, uh, I didn't ask
but I would assume, yeah.
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137. I'm flattered, Hank,
but I just don't—
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138. Right.
This would—
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139. But hear me out,
hear me out,
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140. because I said "but"
at first also.
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141. Uh, sit down, Darlene.
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142. You see, Darlene,
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143. my dad,
Henry Kingsley Senior,
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144. was a charter subscriber
to Playboy.
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145. He adored that magazine
and all that it stood for.
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146. Sweet.
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147. And now, I finally have that
chance to make my dad proud.
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148. Your dad's passed away,
isn't he, Hank?
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149. We think so,
we're not sure.
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150. He, uh, he left
when I was seven.
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151. Anyway, I know wherever he is,
he's watching and I know,
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152. I know it
would mean a lot to him.
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153. But, look, if appearing
in Playboy makes
you uncomfortable,
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154. I'm sure Pop would understand.
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155. Would you at least...
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156. please, would you
think about it, okay?
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157. Artie, how can I help you?
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158. Sit down.
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159. Yes, sir.
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160. Before he left,
Hef told me about
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161. this little idea of yours
and all I can say is
be careful.
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162. Artie, Artie, it
will be very tasteful.
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163. No bush.
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164. Listen to me, Hank.
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165. I want you to keep
this very low profile.
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166. Larry Sanders is a star here,
goddammit.
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167. All right, all right,
Artie, I hear you.
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168. Low profile.
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169. I don't know why you can't
be in the picture.
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170. It's one little picture.
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171. It's the little insert that
they put up in the corner.
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172. It's tiny, it's smaller
than an wallet-size photo.
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173. I'm not gonna be
in the picture!
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174. I don't—
I don't live here.
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175. I'm not your wife.
This isn't my house.
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176. I'm not gonna do it.
Okay, all right.
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177. I don't see why...
You're right.
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178. Okay.
But, you know,
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179. the magazine doesn't come
out for another two months,
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180. may be things will
be different by then.
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181. Well, are you asking me
to move in with you?
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182. Yes, in my own,
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183. "I can't believe
I did it that way myself way,"
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184. yes, I am, I guess.
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185. Well, uh, I, um...
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186. I, I, I—
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187. I'm not gonna be
in the picture.
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188. Well fine, but let's talk
about the moving in part.
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189. I don't want
anyone to think
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190. I had anything to do with
decorating this house.
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191. What, what is that
supposed to mean?
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192. I don't know.
Well, wait a minute.
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193. Are you saying you don't
think this house is in
good taste?
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194. Right, that's
what I'm saying.
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195. I don't think this
house is in good taste,
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196. that's what
I'm getting at.
Well, why?
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197. Well, I'm just, look around.
I mean, all right, look,
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198. what, what, what is this.
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199. That is a head
carved out of rock.
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200. This place looks
like the junior suite
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201. in the Four Seasons,
I don't want—
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202. Jeannie and I met
at the Four Seasons—
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203. and gladiolas will
liven things up.
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204. Oh gosh.
Ah, you're all set, kiddo.
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205. Artie, she doesn't
want to be in the picture.
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206. Ah? Oh, a scenario
I will not get involved in.
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207. Bye, Larry, I'll see you later.
Bye, Artie.
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208. Bye.
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209. Now if you'll excuse me,
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210. I know a lovely place
for this African violet.
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211. Where are you gonna put it?
In the crapper.
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212. Will you not talk that way
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213. when the Architectural
Digest people are here?
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214. Did you do the test photos?
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215. Yeah, it really
wasn't that bad.
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216. There was no one there
but me and the photographer.
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217. Some slimebag, right?
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218. No, she seemed nice.
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219. She?
What did they make you wear?
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220. Oh, come on,
you're not actually
gonna do this, are you?
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221. Look, Hank really
wants me to do this.
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222. I owe him a lot.
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223. Oh, so you're doing
this for Hank.
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224. If it wasn't for Hank,
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225. I would still be being
sawed in half by
The Amazing Clifford
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226. for two shows a night.
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227. You know what, Darlene,
the more I hear about this,
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228. it sounds to me like
there's very little
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229. difference between Hank
and The Amazing Clifford.
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230. Clifford probably
dresses better.
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231. Come on, you guys.
You come on.
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232. You know, you're being
exploited and used
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233. and you don't
even know it.
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234. Here are those...
Playboy After Dark
tapes you wanted.
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235. Oh, great.
Right, right.
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236. Now you want to pay
attention to Mort Sahl
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237. because you could
learn something, ha!
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238. What was that?
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239. What?
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240. No, you're hiding
something from me.
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241. No, we're not.
Yes, you are.
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242. We're working
on the monologue.
No, you're not.
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243. Look, if we were hiding
something from you,
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244. you would not know it.
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245. Should we show him?
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246. Yeah, show me.
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247. We have Darlene's
test photos.
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248. How did you get those?
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249. They were right on our desk.
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250. They were sitting there
in a big envelope
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251. with a Playboy bunny on it.
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252. We just thought
it was a new issue.
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253. How are they?
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254. Good.
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255. No, no, this is not good,
this is not right,
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256. this is not our, our,
our property.
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257. Oh, my god.
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258. Hank, your agent's
on the phone.
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259. Where did you get those?
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260. Hank?
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261. On the desk.
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262. And you thought
you could just take them
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263. and show them around?
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264. Well, I—
oh, no, Darlene!
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265. That's rough.
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266. Oh wait, let me see it.
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267. I'm not gonna be
exploited and used!
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268. Oh, come on, Darlene,
this is Playboy
we're talking about.
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269. We're not talking about
Hustler or Penthouse
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270. or, or Swank
or Jugs or Screw.
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271. Shh, hey!
Didn't you promise me
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272. that you would keep
this very low profile?
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273. I am.
Oh, bullshit.
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274. Shouting out the names
of some of this country's
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275. finest men's publications
outside the ladies crapper
is not low profile.
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276. Listen,
Ms. Bernadette Peters
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277. just happens to be down that
hallway in her dressing room.
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278. You know,
I— I wasn't shouting.
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279. Maybe it was
that weird intern
carrying on like that again.
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280. That's why they call him
the weird intern, you know.
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281. Hank!
Yeah?
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282. If you think
it's so great,
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283. why don't you show
everyone your tits.
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284. Lower profile out there,
you two!
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285. You gotta be
in the picture.
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286. Oh, don't make me sit
in the living room all alone.
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287. I'll look like
Harvey Korman.
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288. Oh, so the only reason you want
me in the picture is because
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289. you're worried about how you're
gonna come off, so it's for you.
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290. No, well look, okay,
so I'm worried about
how I'll come off
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291. but you're worried about
how you'll come off,
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292. so really,
we want the same thing.
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293. I don't want to be in this
picture as an appendage.
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294. Okay fine, then you move in.
Then you're not an appendage.
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295. Then you're there
as a person
who's moved in.
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296. Oh, no one's ever asked me
to move in before.
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297. Wait a minute, how did
you end up living with
what's-his-name then?
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298. Well, you know,
you're just—
you're dating and
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299. then you're together
and then you're just—
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300. you're just kind of
living together.
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301. Well, all right,
that's a good way.
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302. but you can't
count on that way.
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303. This way you take the picture,
then you move in.
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304. Oh no, you don't
know how much I hate
having my picture taken.
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305. You still think that it takes
a little of your soul.
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306. Artie, come here,
come here, come here, Artie.
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307. Artie, please talk to her about
the picture please, please.
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308. No, no, no, I—
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309. I cannot get
involved in this area.
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310. You gotta talk to her
about this.
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311. Artie, why don't you
be in the picture?
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312. Just Larry and me in
a decorating magazine?
No, no, no.
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313. No, people might get
the wrong idea.
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314. I would.
Yeah.
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315. Wouldn't a picture of me
and her look really nice?
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316. Yes, with your arm
around your lady
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317. with a big bouquet of
Baby's Breath behind you,
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318. whoa, I say whoa!
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319. You got me sucked in
for a second.
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320. Artie, Artie, Artie, wait,
wait, come back.
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321. Um, Brad Pitt's
in the green room.
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322. I'm gonna see if he's as cute
as everybody says he is.
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323. You're gonna be disappointed,
you'll see.
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324. Is she moving in?
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325. I don't know.
Come here a minute.
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326. Do you, do you think
my house is too feminine?
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327. You want me to send over
a couple of my
trophy heads?
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328. No, but, you know,
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329. don't you have that chair
with the teeth or something?
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330. Antlers and bones actually,
might look good
on the sun deck.
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331. Yeah, bring that.
Yeah, sure.
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332. I don't know.
It's a hard decision,
Darlene.
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333. I don't know what to do.
I don't want to look stupid.
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334. Believe me you won't.
Standing next to Hank
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335. you'll come off
looking like Carl Sagan.
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336. Are you sure?
Positively.
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337. You know, I've never told
many people about this
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338. but I knew Marilyn Monroe.
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339. We were friends.
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340. Really?
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341. Yeah, a lovely, bright,
sensitive woman.
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342. She was
very self-conscious
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343. till she learned how to use
her beauty as an asset.
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344. I'm no Marilyn Monroe.
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345. Well you're mighty
nifty, sweetie.
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346. What I'm trying
to say is,
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347. you gotta use what
you're born with.
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348. Don't look at me.
I've got a face that
would crack a mirror.
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349. That's why
I'm a producer.
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350. Marilyn did Playboy,
didn't she?
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351. If you're going to do this,
you've got to do it for yourself
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352. and for no one else,
especially not
for fucking Hank.
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353. Then I can do it?
That's up to you.
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354. For myself!
Thanks, I can't
wait to tell Hank.
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355. Thanks, Artie.
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356. Oh, hello,
Miss Exploited and Used.
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357. Hank, I came to talk to you
about the Playboy piece.
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358. Well you're gonna be
very happy.
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359. They killed it.
What?
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360. Oh, Hef bounced the idea off
some editor and he nixed it.
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361. What didn't they like?
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362. I tell you,
I, I, I, I tell you this.
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363. That magazine
was built on ideas like
the sidekick's sidekick
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364. and it is not
a circa 1975 idea.
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365. It is money
in the bank, Frank.
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366. They hated my test shots,
didn't they?
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367. Oh, those fuckers,
those fuckers!
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368. Bunch of sleaze bags,
every one of them.
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369. Oh god, it just would
have been so great.
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370. What did they
say about me?
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371. About you?
Oh, they loved you.
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372. They wanted to know
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373. if you were interested in
doing a pictorial alone.
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374. I am interested, Hank.
What?
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375. I want to do it for me,
not for you, but for me.
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376. I want to do it.
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377. What are you doing, Hank?
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378. Um, okay, okay, here's
what we're gonna do.
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379. Uh, you're going
to call them
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380. and you're
going to say to them,
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381. "Now, now look, uh,
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382. "I am not gonna do
a pictorial unless
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383. Hank Kingsley
is part of it."
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384. Hank, c'mon, I'm sorry.
I did the best I could.
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385. Who'd you talk to?
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386. I talked to
the editor himself.
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387. Well, what did he say?
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388. Hank, I m sorry,
I know this was
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389. a dream of yours
and your pop's.
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390. No, it's not
just my pop,
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391. it's not just my pop,
don't they understand,
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392. I have a restaurant opening
in less than two months.
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393. I put everything into it,
just everything.
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394. If I don't get
some publicity,
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395. you know who's gonna
be at the gala opening?
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396. You, me, the creditors
and that's it.
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397. Hank, maybe I can wear
one of those
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398. Hank Lookaround Café t-shirts
in one of the shots,
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399. that could be—
Yeah, you see, you see,
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400. it's very hard to pose nude
and wear a t-shirt
at the same time.
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401. In fact,
it's downright impossible.
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402. Oh great,
I've become pissy.
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403. You know what—
Well, if it isn't
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404. my two favorite Playboy models,
especially you, my dear.
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405. Thank you, excuse me.
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406. So, hey, Hank, you've been
keeping it low profile?
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407. Artie, they cut me out,
those cock suckers.
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408. Oh, I'm sorry, Hank.
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409. It's America's loss.
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410. Do you wanna get a drink?
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411. Oh, I'd love to,
sweetheart,
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412. but I've got to get over
to Larry's house.
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413. Larry's?
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414. What's up?
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415. Oh, come on, it's just
one little picture.
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416. What difference
does it make, come on!
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417. Oh, I don't want to waste any
more time arguing about this.
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418. Where do you want me?
Oh, well,
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419. if you really
don't want to do this,
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420. you really don't have to.
No, no, let's just
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421. get this over with,
sit down.
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422. Over here,
you want me over here?
All right.
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423. This is perfect.
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424. Are you gonna wear this?
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425. I'll get that.
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426. Uh, Max?
With the lighting in here,
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427. I'd use an F8 stop.
Thanks, Artie.
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428. Hey.
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429. Oh Hank, we're a little
busy here tonight.
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430. Oh, oh gosh.
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431. You are busy.
I'm sorry, I had no idea.
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432. It's Hank Kingsley!
Might be fun
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433. if we got some shots
of you and Hank on the couch.
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434. When are you moving in?
Oh, come on over
and sit down, Hank.
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435. I don't want him
in the picture.
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436. Oh, come on, Larry,
the more the merrier.
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437. I don't want to.
Sit down, Hank.
This will be great.
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438. You drive a hard
bargain, madam.
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439. I don't want Hank
in the picture.
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440. It's just a little— just—
Okay, everybody,
say "hey now."
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441. Tighten up.
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442. Love, Darlene,
here you go!
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443. Architectural Digest
is great!
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444. Yeah, right.
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445. It's just fucking bad
timing that Darlene's
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446. article had to come out
the same day as yours.
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447. Otherwise everyone
would be bent
over your desk
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448. instead of over Darlene's.
Have you seen it?
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449. Yes, it's right here.
It's nothing special.
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450. You've seen one,
you've seen them all.
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451. But how many houses
do you see like this?
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452. Jesus.
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453. These lilies on
the coffee table,
that's a sexy touch.
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454. Has Francine seen this?
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455. I don't know.
Has she moved in yet?
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456. I don t know!
She, she,
she's there every night.
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457. I don't know if she's
moved in, Artie.
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458. Have to talked to Hank?
No.
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459. Does he know that
it's not my fault
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460. that he was cropped out of that?
He'll be fine.
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461. Didn't even know she
owned a motorcycle.
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462. I already signed yours.
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463. Hank, have you seen
my Playboy pictorial yet?
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464. Very nice, congratulations.
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465. Hank, I wore the Hank's
Lookaround Café t-shirt
in the main shot.
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466. It's a little ripped
but you can still read it.
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467. Very nice.
I thought you would like it.
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468. I, I guess
you didn't hear
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469. there was a small grease fire
at the site last night.
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470. Oh, my god.
No, no, no, no.
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471. It's only gonna push us
back about, oh, ten months.
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472. Hey, hey, hey!
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473. It's the new
Architectural Digest.
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474. Those fuckers, fuckers!
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475. Low profile, Hank!
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476. Bunch of fuckers!
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