1. Any last-minute advice?
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2. Nope. Just tell the truth.
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3. Anything you admit here
can't be used against you,
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4. - so take advantage of that.
- Mm.
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5. Was your first year
anything like this?
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6. - No.
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7. But my guess is
my fourth year will be.
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8. Things are getting weirder.
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9. - They are, aren't they?
- It's the world.
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10. You're weathering it well.
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11. Thanks.
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12. You can go in now.
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13. Breathe and smile.
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14. Oh, come on.
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15. I brought my client in
for a voluntary interview,
not a group interrogation.
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16. Hi. That's not for you,
we're in here.
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17. - Come on, they won't bite.
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18. Let them through, guys.
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19. Hi.
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20. Sorry, they're painting
in the hallway,
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21. and the only way in is through
the sixth degree room,
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22. so sorry about that.
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23. - Well...
Hi, I'm Lucca Quinn.
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24. - Hi.
- This is my client,
Maia Rindell.
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25. Hi. Yeah, I know.
The NSA sent over
some of your e-mails.
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26. It's a joke. I'm punchy today.
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27. I'm Federal Agent
Madeline Starkey,
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28. and, uh, why don't we
have a seat and chat?
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29. Oh.
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30. - There you go.
Thank you.
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31. I'm out of breath.
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32. So, Maia, thank you so much
for coming today.
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33. Um, we really appreciate
your help
with this investigation.
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34. I know this has
not been easy on you.
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35. Uh, you understand Maia is here
under the terms of the proffer
from the U.S. Attorney's office?
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36. Absolutely.
This is your Queen
for a Day session, yes.
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37. Nothing my client says
can be used against her.
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38. If she answers truthfully,
that is correct,
and I know you will.
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39. Because it's a felony to lie
to a, um, federal agent.
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40. - 18 U.S.C. 1001.
- Wow, that's exactly right.
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41. So you understand
that the proffer doesn't
immunize you from perjury.
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42. - I do.
- Great. Good. So here we are.
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43. - [BIRD SQUAWKING, THUDDING]
Oh, my gosh.
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44. You see what happened there?
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45. As the light hits the window,
you know, in a particular way,
birds fly right into it.
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46. It's sad, really.
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47. Okay. Um, I am going
to take some notes,
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48. - if that's all right
with counsel.
- Go for it.
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49. Maia,
let's talk about your parents.
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50. How did this Ponzi scheme begin?
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51. Uh, Maia doesn't know
how this Ponzi scheme began.
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52. Oh, right, right. My apologies.
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53. Um, let me be
a little more discursive.
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54. Let's look at this as
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55. Remembrance
of Ponzi Schemes Past, huh.
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56. And, um, anything
that comes into your mind
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57. about your parents
or your Uncle Jackson,
you just spill it, okay?
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58. And I'll just sit here
and I'll write it down.
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59. Diane, I need you.
We got a call
from the courthouse.
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60. - Another brutality case.
- Now?
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61. - Guess who the cop is.
- I'm bad at this, Adrian.
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62. Andrew Theroux.
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63. - Seriously?
- Seriously.
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64. The case
that brought us together.
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65. He stops a motorist
for expired tags,
kicks him in the head.
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66. - How do you know this?
- I have somebody down at County.
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67. I pay him $300
if he gives me a heads-up
on brutality cases.
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68. So we can get this dirty cop
off the force once and for all.
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69. - Good morning.
- Morning. What do we got?
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70. This is one of the worst
I've seen in a while.
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71. Anybody else seen him?
Uh, family members,
lawyers, anybody?
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72. No, Theroux brought his load
in last night. He's all yours.
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73. Good.
Give us a half-hour with him.
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74. - Are you my lawyers?
- We hope to be, Mister...?
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75. Knudsen. Todd Knudsen.
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76. Look, I didn't do it.
The cop just searched my car.
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77. - When was this?
- Last night, about midnight.
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78. It looks like
they, uh, cleaned up
your injuries pretty good.
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79. Where'd he kick you?
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80. Should I say he kicked me?
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81. - What are you in for, son?
- Possession.
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82. Guard!
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83. - Where are the Handi Wipes?
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84. - I need my Purell.
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85. - This is abuse.
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86. - Oh, dear God.
- Diane Lockhart.
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87. Thank God. Did Alicia call you?
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88. She said
she couldn't take my case.
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89. Uh, no.
So you're the brutality victim?
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90. Isn't it terrible?
I— Look at this.
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91. Hmm? Hmm?
Do you have any idea
how hard it is
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92. to get blood
out of Egyptian cotton? Oh!
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93. And now, no Purell.
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94. I was driving down 290
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95. around 2:00 in the morning
with Naftali.
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96. - Who's that?
- Uh, a friend.
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97. Adventurous, Israeli.
Her father was a general.
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98. Don't get her started
on the Six-Day War.
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99. She loves seeing me in pain.
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100. - The bruises on your face,
- Mm.
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101. how do we know
those aren't from Naftali?
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102. No, Naftali knows never
to hit me in the face,
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103. only the back and the thighs.
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104. So, you have bruises
on your back and your thighs?
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105. Mm. Slight bruises.
Mostly scratches.
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106. What that woman can do
with the end of a paper clip...
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107. I know. I'm not a good witness.
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108. Talk to her. Naftali Amado.
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109. - She'll say exactly
what I said.
- Okay.
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110. Hey, they're out to get me,
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111. the same way they did
with Rodney King.
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112. We've got a lot in common,
he and I.
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113. Can't we all just get along?
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114. - What do you think?
- Oh, he's the devil.
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115. And unfortunately,
the devil is our best chance
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116. to get Theroux
kicked off the force.
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117. Uh. Um.
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118. - I'm not sure how to start.
- Here, let's try this.
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119. From our forensic accounting,
the first criminal act,
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120. the first one where new funds
were used to pay off old debts
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121. was September 15th, 2008.
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122. Any thoughts?
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123. That was a long time ago. Um...
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124. - 2008? Uh.
- Mm-hm.
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125. I would have been 17.
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126. - Remember what
you were doing that day?
- I was probably in school.
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127. Okay, well,
it was the day Lehman Brothers
went bankrupt.
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128. Does that help?
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129. Breaking news.
Stocks all around the globe
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130. are in a freefall
at this point because...
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131. Oh, my God!
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132. The Dow expected to open down
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133. - over 300 points,
as fears of...
God. What?
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134. Anything you remember
could help.
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135. If you're not sure of a memory,
just say you're not sure.
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136. Oh, God.
What am I gonna say?
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137. - What am I gonna do?
- Stop, stop it.
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138. - We just have to get Jax.
- I've been all day making calls.
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139. Maia, do you recognize
this name?
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140. Michael Hannigan.
He was an investor
in your parents' fund.
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141. - Yes.
- And he was at your house
on September 15?
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142. - Yes.
- Okay.
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143. - And your parents spoke
with him?
- Yes.
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144. Uh, Jax was there, too.
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145. Um, my Uncle Jax,
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146. he was there and spoke to him.
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147. To Hannigan? You're sure?
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148. This is temporary, Mike.
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149. Pull your money out now,
you're out eight mil.
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150. Yes. My mom, she, uh...
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151. she called Jax,
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152. and he came over
to tell Mike Hannigan
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153. that if he pulled his money
from the Fund,
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154. then he would be out,
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155. something like
eight million dollars.
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156. And the best course
was to keep his money in.
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157. And what time did Jax come by?
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158. I was still doing my homework,
uh, so...
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159. Probably about 4:00
in the afternoon.
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160. - Okay, and how long
was he there?
- I think two hours.
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161. Because he was gone
before dinner.
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162. And you had dinner
with your parents?
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163. You can't always
be promising 12 percent.
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164. Well, it's not about
what we prom—
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165. - Yes.
- Good.
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166. Now, here's the problem, Maia.
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167. I have your mother's
computer calendar, and, uh,
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168. if you'll pardon me,
I'm still a bit of a Luddite.
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169. I need it printed out, and, uh—
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170. "Luddite."
God, I hate that word.
Don't you?
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171. - I don't think
I have an opinion.
- It's like meme.
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172. It's one of those words
that makes
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173. the English language so ugly.
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174. - The calendar.
- Yes.
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175. So, on this day,
your mother says you had
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176. a gynecologist appointment
at 3:00 p.m.,
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177. uh, with a Dr. Regina.
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178. So here's the problem.
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179. I'm not sure how you could
have seen your Uncle Jax
at your house at 4:00 p.m.
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180. when you were
at a doctor's appointment
at 3:00 p.m.
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181. Excuse me,
you're asking about something
that happened nine years ago.
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182. Oh, I know.
Look, I'm on your side in this.
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183. I know that memory
can be faulty.
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184. I'm just trying
to get to the truth.
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185. Maia, were you there
at the doctor's appointment?
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186. I was.
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187. Uh, maybe I saw Jax
and Mr. Hannigan later.
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188. - Or another day, maybe?
- No. No, I don't think so.
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189. - It was on that day.
- Well, here's the problem.
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190. The distance between
Dr. Regina's office
and your house
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191. is 12.4 miles,
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192. and it was very,
very heavy traffic that day.
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193. - How do we know that?
- My minions.
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194. My FBI minions.
They know everything.
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195. And they give me hard copies.
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196. So by the time
you would get home
with your mother,
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197. it would have been 5:30.
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198. And your housekeeper said
she served you dinner
right at 5:30.
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199. What did Jax say?
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200. Jax says he was never
at your house at all.
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201. That is not true. He was there.
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202. But you can't remember when.
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203. No. No, but I...
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204. I remember that he was there.
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205. You know, when I was, uh,
about eight,
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206. I was on Bozo's Circus.
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207. And you're too young
to remember this,
but it was a really big deal.
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208. I was sitting in the audience
with my mom,
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209. and I was chosen
for the grand prize game,
which is another very big deal.
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210. And I remember,
as I got that ball
into bucket number six,
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211. and the confetti
was all over the place,
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212. the crowd was roaring.
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213. And last year,
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some pictures from that day.
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216. My older sister was.
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217. See, the mind has an odd way
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218. of turning wishful thinking
into actual memories.
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219. Okay.
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220. I think we should
take a pause there.
I wanna confer with my client.
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221. Oh, absolutely. Please.
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222. And remember,
this is Queen for a Day,
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223. so no gotcha questions here.
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224. Go around, go around.
- Painters. Sorry.
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225. Just go out that door.
The door you came.
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226. Uh, sorry, we're just, uh...
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227. There's just painters, so...
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228. Okay, here's my advice.
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229. She is not your friend.
She's trying
to catch you in lies.
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230. - I'm not lying.
- I understand.
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231. I know you're trying
to protect your parents,
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232. but she can see
you're doing that.
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233. So don't talk about Jax
being with Hannigan
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234. unless you have
a specific memory.
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235. I don't want to hurt my dad.
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236. I know,
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237. but your proffer
only covers you
if you don't lie.
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238. If you lie to protect your dad,
you might get him off,
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239. but you'll end up in jail.
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240. All rise.
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241. The Honorable Don Linden
presiding.
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242. No, Steve. I have it.
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243. No.
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244. Okay.
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245. Oh.
Well, I guess I won that bet.
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246. Mr. Sweeney,
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247. how nice of you
to join us again.
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248. I am an innocent man,
Your Honor.
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249. Your Honor,
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250. our client has very deep roots
in his community.
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251. - And a private jet
on standby at O'Hare.
- Okay, what is the charge?
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252. - Resisting arrest.
- Aggravated battery.
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253. No, aggravated battery.
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254. Wait, what? Your Honor,
this is a misdemeanor.
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255. No, a felony.
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256. Mr. Sweeney struck
at the officer, striking him
in the head and face.
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257. This is gross overcharging.
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258. - All lives matter.
- Don't get cute, sir.
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259. Shut up, Colin.
I'm finally on your side.
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260. Your Honor,
we ask that Mr. Sweeney
be released
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261. on his own recognizance.
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262. He's a victim
of overzealous prosecution.
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263. He all but has a target
on his back, Your Honor.
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264. Oh, gee, I wonder why.
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265. Bail is set
at three million dollars.
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266. Next.
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267. - Attica. Attica.
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268. You're smiling. Why?
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269. Felony aggravated battery
against a police officer.
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270. - We can put Theroux
on the stand?
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271. Yep. If they kept it
to a misdemeanor, we couldn't.
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272. So Colin Sweeney
is gonna do his one good deed,
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273. get a dirty cop
kicked off the force.
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274. Boo-ya!
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275. Yep, you missed an entire flock.
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276. - Did you two
get everything settled?
- There was nothing to settle.
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277. - But we talked, and we're back.
- Good, good, good.
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278. So, Maia,
I want you to take a look
at your mother's calendar, okay?
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279. I think you'll see that you two
have a few appointments listed
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280. over the years,
and not just the gyno. See?
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281. For example, on October 3rd,
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282. you had another appointment
with Dr. Regina.
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283. And then on October 23rd,
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284. you went with your mother
to her dental checkup.
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285. And then on November 4th,
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286. the two of you
went to see a movie.
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287. - Do you remember what you saw?
- No.
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288. Yeah, well, why don't you
take a good look at that
and, uh, put a check mark
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289. next to the ones
that you remember.
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290. Well, the worry is not STD.
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291. Maia has a boyfriend.
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292. What can I do to help, Doctor?
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293. Thank you.
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294. - You and your mom
were together at these times?
- Yes.
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295. As far as I remember, yes.
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296. Okay.
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297. - Well, here's the problem.
- It would be easier
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298. if you would
just tell us a problem
before there is a problem.
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299. Your mother wasn't with you
at these appointments.
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300. - What do you mean?
- She was off sleeping
with your Uncle Jax.
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301. She used as an excuse
these appointments
in her calendar
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302. so she could meet
with your Uncle Jax at his home.
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303. Maia had no way to know that.
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304. Yes, but just because
her mother has it
in her calendar
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305. doesn't mean it's true.
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306. And Maia shouldn't confirm it
if it's not true.
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307. - Some of those dates are true.
- None of these dates
are true, Maia.
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308. Every two weeks,
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309. your mother met
with your Uncle Jax at his home
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310. since 2008.
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311. Is it possible
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312. that your mother is working
with your Uncle Jax
to set up your dad?
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313. - My client cannot answer that.
- 'Cause here's the problem,
Maia.
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314. You were used as a cover
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315. so your mother could sleep
with your uncle
for several years.
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316. And you didn't suspect anything?
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317. - No.
- Okay.
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318. And in that same time frame,
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319. did you ever suspect
your parents
of their Ponzi scheme?
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320. - I think we should break
for lunch at this point.
- I'd like a few more hours.
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321. No. Let's take a break.
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322. Sure. If you insist.
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323. Nat, you need to get some sleep.
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324. Yeah, what do
you think I'm doing?
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325. We have another client
who was brutalized by a cop.
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326. You do know I work for COPA,
not for you.
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327. Civilian Office
of Police Accountability.
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328. Just in case
you haven't noticed,
we are civilians.
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329. You're not civilians,
you're parasites.
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330. - It was during
a routine traffic stop, Nat.
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331. You'll wanna write this down.
Guess who the cop is.
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332. Andrew Theroux.
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333. - And when was this?
- Last night.
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334. - You're bringing a suit?
- Yep.
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335. - Another six million.
- Who's the victim?
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336. All right, every citizen
deserves equal protection
under the law.
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337. - Who's the victim?
- Give him a chance.
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338. - He hasn't done
anything wrong here.
- Adrian.
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339. Colin Sweeney.
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340. - All right. Okay.
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341. The cops have been following
this guy around, looking
for some kind of payback.
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342. - He dragged him out of the car
and kicked him in the head.
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343. - COPA has to investigate.
Now you know
it's not about Sweeney.
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344. It's about getting this piece
of shit off the force, come on.
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345. Come to court.
We're gonna put Theroux
on the stand.
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346. - All I want is an open mind.
Come on.
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347. - That was Internal Affairs?
- That was COPA.
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348. And they're not
gonna investigate.
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349. Destroy Theroux on the stand.
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350. He'll be back.
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351. At first he was agitated,
then he got belligerent.
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352. It seemed to me he was on drugs.
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353. I haven't used drugs
in 20 years.
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354. Whisper quieter, Mr. Sweeney.
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355. - I can hear you up here.
- Sorry, Your Honor.
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356. I think my eardrum
is damaged from when
the officer hit me last night.
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357. - Objection, Your Honor.
- Sustained.
Shut up, Mr. Sweeney.
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358. And how did you react
to his struggle, officer?
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359. I tried to use
only as much force
as was necessary
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360. to gain his compliance.
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361. Unfortunately,
he chose to attack me,
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362. and I'm sorry to say,
did some damage.
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363. These bruises here and here?
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364. If I did that...
Yes, sir.
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365. don't you think I'd have
some marks on my hands?
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366. My doctor believes I'll need
to have some corrective surgery
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367. in order to reset my teeth.
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368. Jay, it's Diane.
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369. I just forwarded you
a picture of Theroux's injuries.
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370. I never thought I'd say this,
but I think there's a chance
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371. Colin Sweeney
is telling the truth.
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372. Maia, we're back in.
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373. - Hi. Well, I hope
you both had a nice lunch.
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374. I'd like to keep this
under three hours.
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375. - Mm-hmm, certainly. See's?
- No, thank you.
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376. - See's?
- No.
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377. My husband picked out
all the good stuff and sent me
to work with the coconuts.
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378. What's your husband's name?
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379. - Uh, Michaelson. Why?
- How long have you two
been married?
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380. I Googled you over lunch.
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381. You're not married.
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382. Ah. Mm-hmm.
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383. You got me.
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384. You were also instrumental
in the convictions
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385. of Blagojevich and George Ryan.
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386. Did the folksy thing
work on them too?
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387. Well, there was one lawyer,
uh, in one of the cases,
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388. and I'm not gonna say who.
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389. We weren't interested
in his client.
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390. We only asked him to come in
for a how-do-you-do meeting.
Copy !req
391. Uh, but this lawyer
was so aggressive
Copy !req
392. and so suspicious
Copy !req
393. that we decided to probe further
into his client.
Copy !req
394. And that client
is now in prison.
Copy !req
395. - Sweet story.
- Well, it's a true one.
Copy !req
396. - Are you advising me
not to represent my client?
- Oh, far from it.
Copy !req
397. I think it would benefit
both of us
Copy !req
398. if Maia were to offer
all she knows.
Copy !req
399. Undiluted.
Copy !req
400. What do you need, Ms. Starkey?
Copy !req
401. Well, I'd like to turn
to the foundation.
The Rindell Foundation.
Copy !req
402. - You're one
of three board members.
Uh, yes.
Copy !req
403. And you...
Copy !req
404. When was the last time
the board met?
Copy !req
405. Uh, I don't know.
Um, a few years ago?
Copy !req
406. If you have the answer,
you can just tell her.
Copy !req
407. Well, uh...
Copy !req
408. I think the last board meeting,
Copy !req
409. and only board meeting,
was June 18th, 2011.
Copy !req
410. Do you know of any other dates?
Any more meetings?
Copy !req
411. - No.
- Okay.
Copy !req
412. - That doesn't bother you?
- Tell me what you mean.
Copy !req
413. Well, it's a foundation
Copy !req
414. with 65 million in assets,
Copy !req
415. and you only met once?
Copy !req
416. Well, the foundation
wasn't my idea.
Copy !req
417. - Uh, It was—
- It was your parents', yeah.
Copy !req
418. Yes, but it was
for a good cause.
Copy !req
419. For malaria prevention
in Africa.
Copy !req
420. Oh, and how much
did you spend on prevention?
Copy !req
421. Yeah, but I just wanna know
how much we're sending.
Copy !req
422. Honey.
You know, it's a lot, honey.
I mean, we're not skimping.
Copy !req
423. - I don't know.
- Oh, well, that's okay, Maia.
Copy !req
424. You were just a figurehead.
That's not a bad thing.
Copy !req
425. You're not in trouble.
Copy !req
426. Yeah, but, Dad,
it's got my name on it.
I have to know.
Copy !req
427. Okay, I'll have Jax open
the books to you.
Just give us a few weeks.
Copy !req
428. - Okay.
- Okay.
Copy !req
429. Do you need a moment?
Copy !req
430. - No.
- Uh, so, let's talk
about the day
Copy !req
431. the foundation was formed.
Copy !req
432. Did you get it?
- Right here.
Copy !req
433. - Affidavits?
- Here.
Copy !req
434. You just saved his ass.
Thank you, Jay.
Copy !req
435. - Hey, hey, hey.
- Good to know.
Copy !req
436. Hello, Officer Theroux.
- Hello.
Copy !req
437. This is a familiar spot
for you, being questioned
about police brutality.
Copy !req
438. Objection.
Argumentative and rude.
Copy !req
439. Sustained to the first.
Overruled to the second.
Copy !req
440. Officer, um, do you work out
at Savoy's Gym?
Copy !req
441. Uh... Yes, why?
Copy !req
442. Do you recall
yesterday afternoon sparring
Copy !req
443. with a 19-year-old welterweight
Copy !req
444. named Hector Peraza,
Copy !req
445. who according to eyewitnesses,
knocked you out?
Copy !req
446. That's bullshit.
He didn't knock me out.
Copy !req
447. My apologies.
But you sparred with him.
Copy !req
448. Yeah, I held my own.
Copy !req
449. - And this was before
you went on duty?
- Yes, why?
Copy !req
450. Well, isn't it possible
that these bruises here
Copy !req
451. - are the result of punches
thrown by Hector Peraza?
- No.
Copy !req
452. Well, these are photos of cuts
Copy !req
453. and lacerations
inside your mouth,
Officer Theroux.
Copy !req
454. Objection. Not in evidence.
Copy !req
455. These are police photos,
Your Honor. We didn't take them.
Copy !req
456. Unless you want to throw out
all your photos, Mr. ASA,
Copy !req
457. overruled.
Copy !req
458. Do you see these lacerations,
Officer Theroux?
Copy !req
459. Those lacerations
are in the same shape as this.
Copy !req
460. The mouth guard at Savoy's Gym.
Copy !req
461. You guys are good.
Copy !req
462. So this was your 18th birthday.
Copy !req
463. Yes.
Copy !req
464. And that's when
your parents gifted you
the Rindell Foundation.
Copy !req
465. Uh, yes.
Copy !req
466. My parents knew
I was interested in Africa.
Copy !req
467. I had read that malaria kills
one million kids a year,
Copy !req
468. and that it could be prevented
Copy !req
469. with mosquito netting.
Copy !req
470. So, they wanted me
to run an effort
to pay for the netting
Copy !req
471. for, uh, 60 percent
of African children.
Copy !req
472. Wow, well, that is a good cause,
Copy !req
473. and thank you so much
for doing that.
Copy !req
474. Can I ask who was at your party?
Copy !req
475. Um. A lot of people.
Copy !req
476. How about your girlfriend,
uh, Amy Breslin?
Copy !req
477. Yes, she was there.
Copy !req
478. But, uh, she wasn't
my girlfriend at the time.
Copy !req
479. Uncle Jax introduced us.
Copy !req
480. She was just entering
law school.
Copy !req
481. And your boyfriend
was there, too.
Copy !req
482. - I have to get back.
Copy !req
483. Maia, was he there?
Copy !req
484. - Yes.
- Okay.
Copy !req
485. Well, that's not complicated.
Copy !req
486. Okay. And Diane Lockhart,
was she there?
Copy !req
487. Yes, she was there, too.
Copy !req
488. You sure you don't want one?
They're delicious.
Copy !req
489. - From your husband?
Okay.
Copy !req
490. Now did you hear Ms. Lockhart
offer any legal advice
to your parents?
Copy !req
491. Okay, I'm gonna stop you
right there.
Copy !req
492. This is not material covered
by the proffer.
Copy !req
493. Well, anything that has to do
with the Ponzi scheme
is covered by the proffer.
Copy !req
494. Hearsay conversations
which, in fact, may be subject
Copy !req
495. to attorney-client privilege
are not...
Copy !req
496. Actually, my current case
is a homicide.
Copy !req
497. My client is accused of killing
a mutual fund manager
Copy !req
498. who worked with Bernie Madoff.
Copy !req
499. - Oh, really?
Copy !req
500. - Do you know him?
- Bernie?
Copy !req
501. - Mm-hmm.
- No.
Copy !req
502. Do we, Lenore?
Maybe Jax. I don't know.
Copy !req
503. I'm asking if she has a memory.
If she doesn't, we move on.
Copy !req
504. That's not what I'm saying.
Copy !req
505. This is officially...
Copy !req
506. I have to get back.
Copy !req
507. - Call me.
Wait, wait, wait.
Copy !req
508. This is a fishing expedition
on your part.
Copy !req
509. I'm saying if she has a memory,
Copy !req
510. I will hear it, or we'll—
Copy !req
511. You are digging.
No, no.
Copy !req
512. Lenore, do you think
that Ruth Madoff knew
what her husband was doing?
Copy !req
513. Oh...
Copy !req
514. No. Why?
Copy !req
515. See, I think she didn't know
Copy !req
516. - because she didn't want
to know.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
517. How could she not know?
Copy !req
518. I will hear it, or—
You are digging...
Copy !req
519. No, no, no. Hold on. Just a sec.
Copy !req
520. Here's the problem, Ms. Quinn.
Copy !req
521. We have a lot of problems here,
don't we?
Copy !req
522. These foundation documents
were signed by Maia.
Copy !req
523. And she signed them,
she just admitted,
Copy !req
524. on the night
of her birthday party,
her 18th birthday.
Copy !req
525. So she is responsible
for any crimes committed
by this foundation.
Copy !req
526. Our proffer
is about Maia's involvement
with this fund,
Copy !req
527. not Diane Lockhart's advice.
Copy !req
528. I hate to be the bad guy here,
Copy !req
529. but millions of dollars
were being parked
into that foundation
Copy !req
530. to hide them from an SEC audit.
Copy !req
531. That is a felony crime.
Copy !req
532. Now, unless Maia tells us about
Copy !req
533. Diane Lockhart's advice
to her parents,
Copy !req
534. we will stop
this questioning now
and prosecute.
Copy !req
535. I need to be 18
for those documents
to be official?
Copy !req
536. Yes, and you were.
You signed them
on your 18th birthday.
Copy !req
537. We had my birthday party
on a Saturday,
Copy !req
538. and I didn't turn 18
Copy !req
539. until the following Tuesday.
Copy !req
540. - Oh, come on.
Copy !req
541. You know, maybe I will have
one of those candies.
Copy !req
542. Nice try, agent.
Copy !req
543. Is this the kind of finesse
you used on Blagojevich?
Copy !req
544. - Nice, Maia.
- Lucky.
Copy !req
545. No, I've seen lucky.
That was smart.
Copy !req
546. I have another witness,
Your Honor. Naftali Amado.
Copy !req
547. I thought you said
she was on your side?
Copy !req
548. She is. She was.
Copy !req
549. Naftali.
Copy !req
550. Hello, Ms. Amado.
- Hello, man.
Copy !req
551. You were with Mr. Sweeney
when his car was pulled over.
Copy !req
552. - Isn't that correct?
Ken.
Copy !req
553. - We speak English here.
- Uh, yes.
Copy !req
554. Hebrew makes me so hot.
Copy !req
555. And what happened
after you were pulled over?
Copy !req
556. The policeman,
he comes over to us.
Copy !req
557. He says, uh,
we need to show the...
Copy !req
558. um...
Copy !req
559. - um, the lice—
- License?
Copy !req
560. Yes, but, uh, Mr. Sweeney
Copy !req
561. is very, very hot.
Copy !req
562. He gets out of the car,
punches the policeman.
Copy !req
563. Oh, that is outrageous.
Copy !req
564. You are outrageous.
Copy !req
565. - You listen—
- You sit back down.
Copy !req
566. Excuse me, ma'am.
That is my job.
Copy !req
567. Please, Mr. Sweeney.
Copy !req
568. - Any more questions, counselor?
- Nothing further.
Copy !req
569. Ah! Painting's done.
You can come in this way now.
Copy !req
570. Here you go. Have a seat.
Copy !req
571. I'd like to apologize
for the uncomfortable mess
Copy !req
572. earlier this afternoon.
Copy !req
573. It was all on me.
My bad, I'm sorry.
Copy !req
574. I don't want things
to be tense between us.
Copy !req
575. - We don't either.
- Good. So, we're friends again?
Copy !req
576. - Sure.
Okay, good.
Copy !req
577. Maia, um, let's talk about
when you did become aware
Copy !req
578. of the Ponzi scheme.
Copy !req
579. You said it was when
the press reported on it.
Copy !req
580. - Yes.
- [BIRD SQUAWKS, THUDS]
Copy !req
581. - And not before?
- Uh, that is correct.
Copy !req
582. You graduated
from law school in 2016, right?
Copy !req
583. - Yes.
- Was it a big day?
Copy !req
584. - I don't understand.
- Well, there was a celebration
at your parents' house.
Copy !req
585. To a fantastic year.
Oh!
Copy !req
586. - Yes, there was.
- And your parents were there?
Copy !req
587. Amy's parents were there?
Copy !req
588. Oh, thank you for being here.
Oh, Maia.
Copy !req
589. - Yes, Sam and Connie.
- Okay, Sam and Connie.
Copy !req
590. Now, were you living with Amy,
Copy !req
591. uh, at the time
when you graduated
from law school?
Copy !req
592. I was.
Copy !req
593. Did Amy ever ask you
about the possibility
of her parents
Copy !req
594. investing in your parents' fund?
Copy !req
595. She asked about it,
Copy !req
596. and I told her
that to start an account,
Copy !req
597. it was a minimum of $200,000.
Copy !req
598. Her parents didn't have
that kind of money.
Copy !req
599. According to my information,
and I could be wrong,
Copy !req
600. uh, your parents
did make exceptions
to that requirement.
Copy !req
601. - Is that a question?
- No, this is one.
Copy !req
602. Did you ever ask
if an exception could be made
Copy !req
603. in the case of Amy's parents?
Copy !req
604. Oh.
Copy !req
605. - Oh, sorry.
- Why would she lie?
Copy !req
606. I don't know,
she's such a naughty minx.
Copy !req
607. It could be her idea of a joke.
Copy !req
608. Mr. Sweeney,
please take this seriously.
Copy !req
609. I imagine a felony arrest
for drug possession
Copy !req
610. - could get her deported.
- I'm sorry?
Copy !req
611. - Who are you again?
- A partner here.
Copy !req
612. Where does the drug possession
come in?
Copy !req
613. There was nothing
in the crime report.
Copy !req
614. Well, partner,
I'm just theorizing here,
Copy !req
615. but we were on our way
to a chemsex party
in Arlington Heights.
Copy !req
616. Mm-mm. Wait, wait.
We need to stop right there.
Copy !req
617. You need to speak
in hypotheticals, Mr. Sweeney.
Copy !req
618. But why?
Copy !req
619. We can't put you
on the stand knowing
you will perjure yourself.
Copy !req
620. You can only relate
something that is true
or potentially true.
Copy !req
621. God, I love the law.
Copy !req
622. And everybody
takes it so seriously.
Copy !req
623. - Your party?
- Yes. Chemsex.
Copy !req
624. Chemse— No?
Copy !req
625. Oh, drug cocktails, then sex.
Oh, most enlightening.
Copy !req
626. - Hypothetically.
- Yes.
Copy !req
627. Naftali and I
were hypothetically
Copy !req
628. on our way to this party,
Copy !req
629. where we were
hypothetically going to supply
Copy !req
630. the synthetic cathinone.
Copy !req
631. And why was there
no mention of drugs
in the police report?
Copy !req
632. Naftali threw them
out the window
when we were stopped.
Copy !req
633. Uh, hypothetically.
Copy !req
634. Adrian.
Copy !req
635. I think we're in trouble.
Copy !req
636. I was scanning police calls,
following Theroux's movements.
Copy !req
637. He was calling for some K9 units
to the scene of the pullover.
Copy !req
638. Fuck.
Copy !req
639. - They found them?
- Yeah.
Copy !req
640. - What are you gonna do?
- I don't know.
Copy !req
641. When the facts are on your side,
you pound the facts.
Copy !req
642. When the facts
are not on your side...
Copy !req
643. Come on. Are you kidding me?
Copy !req
644. Counselor, sit down right now.
You'll get your turn.
Copy !req
645. Continue, Mr. ASA.
Copy !req
646. Again, Officer Theroux,
did you conduct a search
this morning
Copy !req
647. in an area immediately adjacent
to the Dan Ryan Expressway?
Copy !req
648. - I did.
- And what occasioned
that search?
Copy !req
649. The night before, I witnessed
an object being thrown
Copy !req
650. from the passenger side
of the suspect's car.
Copy !req
651. Come on, why did he not search
the night before, Your Honor?
This is bullshit!
Copy !req
652. Sir, you will stop right now,
Copy !req
653. or we will discuss
contempt charges.
Copy !req
654. - Go ahead.
- Well, that is a good question.
Copy !req
655. Why didn't you search the area
the night before?
Copy !req
656. I did,
but there's thick brush there
Copy !req
657. and a gully,
I couldn't find anything.
Copy !req
658. So I went back
with a K9 unit this morning—
Copy !req
659. - Talk about a convenient memory.
- Ma'am, no.
Copy !req
660. Thank you, Your Honor.
Copy !req
661. Please, tell the court what,
if anything, you found.
Copy !req
662. A white plastic bag
Copy !req
663. containing approximately
1.5 grams
of a synthetic cathinone,
Copy !req
664. - commonly known as bath salts.
Nothing further.
Copy !req
665. Why aren't they introducing
the dashboard cam into evidence?
Copy !req
666. Mr. Boseman, Ms. Lockhart?
Copy !req
667. Are you both done pounding
your table?
Copy !req
668. I apologize, Your Honor.
Copy !req
669. But given the significance
of the officer's new testimony,
Copy !req
670. I'm curious why we're not seeing
Copy !req
671. his dashboard video
of the encounter.
Copy !req
672. Good question. Mr. ASA?
Copy !req
673. Your Honor,
there's nothing exculpatory
on that recording.
Copy !req
674. Oh, well, that's a relief,
Your Honor.
Copy !req
675. - My guess is you would
like to see it?
- If it's not too much trouble.
Copy !req
676. The State has three hours
to provide defense
with the dashboard video.
Copy !req
677. - Adjourned.
Copy !req
678. Huh.
Copy !req
679. You want a rental,
talk to the office.
Copy !req
680. No, I need a name.
Copy !req
681. Uh, last night,
you drove someone.
A man in a suit.
Copy !req
682. - This man.
Copy !req
683. What'd he do?
- Nothing.
Copy !req
684. He's a witness
to a car accident.
Copy !req
685. Richard Hess.
Copy !req
686. - Where was he headed?
- Some party
in Arlington Heights.
Copy !req
687. How are you, Rich?
Copy !req
688. - Do I know you?
- Uh, I don't think
we've officially met.
Copy !req
689. But I know
you know Colin Sweeney,
Copy !req
690. and I think he may need you
to testify on his behalf.
Copy !req
691. I don't know
what you're talking about.
Copy !req
692. Come on, man.
Copy !req
693. He was leading you
to a party in Arlington Heights,
the chemsex party?
Copy !req
694. But his car got pulled over.
Copy !req
695. This is you
on the dashboard videotape.
Copy !req
696. You waited a few minutes
for them, but then told
the driver to keep going.
Copy !req
697. Since you're obviously
a little dense,
let me dumb it down for you.
Copy !req
698. Fuck off.
Copy !req
699. This guy definitely
saw something,
but he won't testify.
Copy !req
700. Can we pay him?
Copy !req
701. - Mr. Sweeney.
- Hypothetically.
Copy !req
702. - We can treat him
as a hostile witness.
- Why won't he testify?
Copy !req
703. He doesn't want it
to come out that he was going
where he was going.
Copy !req
704. - And where was that?
- The sex party Mr. Sweeney
was going to.
Copy !req
705. Mm.
Copy !req
706. - What's his name?
- Richard Hess.
Copy !req
707. - Why? You know him?
- No.
Copy !req
708. You will not put him
on the stand. You have no right.
Copy !req
709. What are you talking about?
He saw what happened.
Copy !req
710. You don't know that.
Copy !req
711. I insist that you not
contact him again,
Copy !req
712. or I'm hiring other lawyers.
Copy !req
713. - So you did beat up that cop?
- No. What? No.
Copy !req
714. - Why don't you want us
to get this guy?
- I don't need a reason.
Copy !req
715. I'll be in your office, Diane.
Copy !req
716. I think I understand.
Copy !req
717. What? I don't.
Copy !req
718. Richard Hess is a Florida
real estate billionaire
who's been sent to Chicago
Copy !req
719. to vet ambassadors.
Copy !req
720. Oh, don't act like that.
Copy !req
721. What's the point of being rich
if you can't buy
what's for sale?
Copy !req
722. An ambassadorship?
Copy !req
723. I gave over a million dollars
to his campaign PAC.
Copy !req
724. Membership has its privileges.
Copy !req
725. So work your magic
and make these charges go away.
Copy !req
726. - I need to look clean.
- Then get Hess
to testify on your behalf.
Copy !req
727. - Ugh.
- This drug testimony
from Theroux hurts you.
Copy !req
728. No. Find another way.
Copy !req
729. Police brutality
is your specialty,
Copy !req
730. and I'm a bona fide victim here.
Copy !req
731. It's not just the black people
who get brutalized.
Copy !req
732. It's people like me,
the misunderstood.
Copy !req
733. The white billionaire
wife-killer,
Copy !req
734. allegedly.
Copy !req
735. Oh, God.
Copy !req
736. Maia.
Copy !req
737. She's trying to suggest
you knew about the Ponzi scheme,
Copy !req
738. and that's why you waived
Amy's parents off.
Copy !req
739. - Yeah, I know.
- Did you?
Copy !req
740. No.
Copy !req
741. You don't sound definite.
Copy !req
742. Did you tell him my father's IRA
comes to 110,000,
Copy !req
743. - that he's got
another 30,000 in T-bills?
Uh-huh.
Copy !req
744. I don't know, I—
Copy !req
745. You don't know
if you waived Amy's parents off?
Copy !req
746. I know this has been hard.
Copy !req
747. I know these months
have been hard on you,
Copy !req
748. and you feel rightly
or wrongly, guilty
for your parents' actions.
Copy !req
749. - No, that's not what this is.
- You don't even need
to be conscious of it, Maia.
Copy !req
750. Your guilt could
just be coloring your memories.
Copy !req
751. You could be seeing yourself
as more culpable than you are.
Copy !req
752. It's your Catholic guilt.
Copy !req
753. You are condemning yourself.
Copy !req
754. That's fine
for the confessional, but here,
it has real repercussions.
Copy !req
755. They could put you in jail.
Copy !req
756. Your father would really
turn down $140,000?
Copy !req
757. Well, he does it all the time.
Copy !req
758. Did you really tell your dad?
Copy !req
759. Lucca, I didn't tell my dad.
Copy !req
760. Didn't tell him what?
Copy !req
761. About Amy's parents' investment.
Copy !req
762. I pretended to,
but I never told him.
Copy !req
763. What do you mean? Of course
I told my dad, why wouldn't I?
Copy !req
764. Okay, this isn't good.
Copy !req
765. You're ready
to admit you killed Biggie.
Copy !req
766. I must have somehow known
about the Ponzi scheme.
Copy !req
767. Otherwise, why wouldn't I
have let Amy's parents invest?
Copy !req
768. - That doesn't mean anything.
- It does, Lucca.
Copy !req
769. I knew.
Copy !req
770. The problem is the drugs.
Copy !req
771. The judge was listening to us
on everything else.
Copy !req
772. It's the drugs thrown out
the freaking window.
Copy !req
773. So we use Hess.
Copy !req
774. We convince Sweeney
he has to use his vetter.
Copy !req
775. No, we need to go
at the drugs, Diane.
Copy !req
776. That helps us with COPA, too.
Copy !req
777. They wanna kick Theroux
off the force. We just...
Copy !req
778. We haven't given them
enough of a reason to do it.
Copy !req
779. Then we're stuck.
Copy !req
780. Diane, you happy here?
Copy !req
781. - What, at your firm?
- Yeah.
Copy !req
782. - Yes, why?
- I don't know.
Copy !req
783. - You wanted to retire.
Copy !req
784. Yes.
Copy !req
785. Well,
Copy !req
786. life has a way of reminding you
of who you are.
Copy !req
787. - Hmm.
- Guess I'm not
the retiring type.
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788. Are you happy here?
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789. Gotcha.
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790. I like getting
the better of people,
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791. and keeping something alive.
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792. You know? Look out there
at all those employees,
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793. and realizing
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794. they might not have jobs
if I don't keep this going.
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795. Yeah, that is a good feeling.
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796. Okay.
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797. Time to go home.
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798. Let's get dinner sometime.
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799. - Okay?
- That'd be nice.
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800. Possession.
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801. It was possession! Stupid!
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802. - What?
- I am so stupid.
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803. - It was right there
in front of our eyes.
- What was?
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804. What is his name?
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805. - Uh.
- Oh.
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806. Um, um, um...
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807. Todd Knudsen.
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808. Are you familiar
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809. with Officer Andrew Theroux,
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810. Mr. Knudsen?
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811. Oh, yeah. He pulled me over
a few nights ago.
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812. Would you tell the court
what happened?
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813. I was driving home
from my mom's house.
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814. He pulled me over,
said I was switching lanes
without signaling.
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815. I wasn't.
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816. He asked me
to step out of the car
so he could search it.
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817. Then he handcuffs me
and says I'm under arrest
for possession of heroin.
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818. - But were you
in possession of heroin?
- No, he planted it.
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819. In fact, weren't the charges
eventually dropped?
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820. Yeah, just today.
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821. The other cops say
this happens a lot with him.
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822. - Objection, Your Honor.
- Yes, sustained.
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823. But you might want to reconsider
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824. your charge here, Mr. ASA.
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825. Nothing further,
Your Honor. Thank you.
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826. - Mr. McGrath?
- Nothing further.
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827. The witness is dismissed.
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828. Hey, hey, hey.
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829. Thanks.
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830. Uh.
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831. That's really not necessary.
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832. It's no big deal.
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833. It's an SEC audit,
of course it's a big deal.
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834. - Come on, Jax.
- Would you two be quiet?
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835. Hey, hon. We'll be right out.
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836. I don't think we should entangle
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837. your parents' money
with my parents'.
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838. Is there something wrong
with the fund?
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839. Are you good?
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840. I don't know.
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841. Listen, Maia.
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842. I can think of a dozen reasons
why you didn't let
Amy's parents invest.
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843. First and foremost,
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844. you didn't want to mix up
finances with love.
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845. That makes complete sense to me.
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846. - You think so?
- Yeah, I do.
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847. You ready again?
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848. Last dentist visit.
J.K.
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849. That's "just kidding."
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850. It's what the kids say.
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851. I wanted to thank you
for your help.
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852. You're welcome.
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853. And I wanted to let you know
that no good deed
goes unpunished.
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854. About an hour ago,
some billionaire was named
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855. the next ambassador to Germany.
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856. - I lost it.
- I'm sorry to hear that.
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857. I can't believe
I wasted four months
trying to learn German.
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858. Ich. Nicht.
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859. Well, I'm sure you'll survive.
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860. Also, it'll free you up
for our lawsuit
against Cook County.
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861. Theroux's been kicked off
the force,
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862. but we've
got a six-million-dollar
civil suit in the works.
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863. Um, no, I'm not doing that.
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864. - Uh, yes, you are.
- No.
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865. Sorry, I'm trying
for Ambassador to the Vatican.
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866. Again, thanks.
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867. I'll drop by again.
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868. Are you ready
to finish this up, Maia?
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869. She is.
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870. You asked me
why I didn't want Amy's parents
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871. to invest in the fund,
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872. and the truth is,
it just seemed like a bad idea
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873. to mix family and finances.
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874. In my experience, Maia,
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875. whenever somebody says,
"the truth is,"
that usually means it's not.
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876. - That's not—
- I like you, Maia.
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877. I think you're smart,
I think you're perceptive,
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878. and I think
you committed a crime here.
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879. I think you knew
about your parents'
Ponzi scheme.
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880. And I'm going
to recommend prosecution
by the U.S. Attorney's Office.
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881. - This was a proffer session.
- Yes, but she lied.
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882. I'm sorry.
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