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hugely popular.
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an even bigger name
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a man with a gift,
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do anything?
Why didn't they stop him?
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to honor Dan.
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amazing shows.
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Lifetime Achievement Award.
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so many different people
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producer on that show,
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have gone well
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that to him.
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buffoons, stupid,
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and spineless.
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someone feel worthless."
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people on his shows was
an open secret.
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if you messed up,
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a minor mistake,
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who would be willing
to humiliate you
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from someone was
that everything
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is a DEFCON 10 event.
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that everything that he did,
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"Passion of the way he reacted
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he approached people,"
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this magic happen.
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a success.
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we are still doing
the tortured genius routine.
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a total piece of,
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that happens.
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even talking about it now,
my face gets hot.
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he'd say things like,
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if you didn't work for me."
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a lot worse on Sam and Cat.
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the same time
Jeanette's mom dies.
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a week break from filming.
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something that people on set
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they were disturbed by.
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so stressful on the set of
Sam and Cat.
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an internal investigation.
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is seen as kind of
contributing
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that is happening
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this show a difficult place
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the investigation,
Dan Schneider
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to really interact with
the cast anymore.
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a hands-on showrunner,
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this is the biggest punishment
you can imagine.
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the industry as a whole,
this never happens.
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to find another show
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we don't trust the guy
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in a humane way."
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to get rid of him.
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get away with it because
he's Dan Schneider.
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the entertainment space
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anybody who is successful.
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that you cannot ignore.
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is banned from working
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on the set of Sam and Cat,
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at Nickelodeon with
two new shows,
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with the massage squad.
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something has shifted
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harassment and toxicity.
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across the country
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- MeToo.
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allegations of
sexual harassment
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Kevin Spacey,
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- R. Kelly,
Bill Cosby.
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exploding overnight.
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just keep coming.
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I'd had enough when
the MeToo movement
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hostile work environments.
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finally call up my union
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there had been some stuff
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it was inappropriate that
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from females weekly
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and this is not right.
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I wasn't the only one
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and displeasure that
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into it.
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were circulating around
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and these really
exploded online.
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Nickelodeon launches yet
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into Dan Schneider.
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a smoking gun,
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movement has helped us
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what we think is appropriate
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in the workplace.
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actually called me
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coming back.
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from Nickelodeon is
a huge shock.
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statements, basically,
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I need some time off.
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I'm working on my life."
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the locks of this place
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that was reported at the time
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quick, really sharp break.
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did not find any evidence of
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inappropriate relationships
with children.
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being abusive to others
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519. So to hear that he was gone
was a good thing.
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It was a happy day.
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it was a much happier
workplace.
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that Dan was no longer
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Nickelodeon,
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exactly where I was.
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a long time ago.
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Nickelodeon,
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a new TV show
in a number of years.
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The New York Times, kind of,
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in children's television.
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he comes back from it.
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but I don't see
how it happens.
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533. Let's please collectively
not let another Dan happen.
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are still on the air,
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really popular.
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on Dan Schneider's sets
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the entertainment industry
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and they are reexamining
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they grew up in.
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of Zoey 101...
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to set anymore without crying.
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was deeply damaged
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altered for life.
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The Amanda Show
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big time.
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550. That was a very young lesson
to learn in my career,
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is replaceable.
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a really dark path.
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pick myself back up
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an industry
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that it has no love for me
at all.
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hurt me mentally
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I've dealt with,
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is a direct connection
to the feelings that
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the industry
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the success that I had.
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I was burned out,
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the next chapter.
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to maybe try college,
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not everybody gets
to be normal afterwards
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what that looks like.
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it was a sweet experience,
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the bitter side of the
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was pretty bitter.
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571. There's a dark underbelly
to child stardom.
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572. Children are just
a dollar sign when
they show up on set.
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mental health serious,
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unfortunate.
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575. I struggled with
self-esteem issues.
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beauty standards.
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579. It was a toxic environment
and seeing how the show
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people who were criminals
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about the reality of
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trust people less.
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584. Drake,
can you look right at
this way, please?
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585. Right after
Drake and Josh,
I was signed,
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my second album.
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cool movies,
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of sobriety,
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590. You know,
the pressure would be
too much,
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that I had, um...
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my self-destructive behavior
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a temporary fix,
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back up.
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and lost my house, and...
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599. I mean,
it was absolutely devastating.
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600. Hey, what's up, Glenn?
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601. - Cory, can we get
a picture, please?
- Glenn, can we get a sign?
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602. We can go on and on and on
of child actors
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603. or child entertainers
who had cameras
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downfall.
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- Hello? Did you have fun
in there, Brittany?
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to say to Brittany?
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607. Look at what happens
to these kids when
they're spat out.
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with addiction.
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Aaron, you know?
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arrested, hauled out of
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Manhattan apartment.
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allegedly smoking marijuana.
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how low is the bottom?
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a mental health evaluation.
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a very talented young woman.
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world at her fingertips.
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a very prototypical
child star story.
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it seemed like
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the transition.
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of public mental health issues
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a conservatorship
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and that was
very recently overturned.
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with their families often
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discontent,
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They don't have childhoods
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to have.
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- Okay, ready.
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a slow decline
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and sobriety.
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were happening
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Drake Bell is arrested
in California,
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under the influence.
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Drake Bell was convicted
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child endangerment.
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645. Drake Bell
pled guilty to charges related
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he sent to a minor,
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for doing anything physical.
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two years of probation
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community service.
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for that.
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I did what was asked of me.
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ahold of so much
misinformation,
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destroyed me.
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of control.
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has been reported missing.
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deeply concerned
for his well-being.
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that path, that...
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into treatment.
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a lot of trauma therapy,
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in a long time...
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see me get better.
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if you're not protected,
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670. There's gotta be more support
in terms of counseling,
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wellness checks.
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672. Kids are still at risk.
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everyone operating on a set
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where either a studio teacher
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required to be within
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at all times.
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a criminal record
as a child sex offender
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this position,
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should be closed.
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financially reward
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without knowing
what's actually happening,
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the people that witnessed it
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to really change it.
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every voice that comes out,
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am I going to put my kids
into acting,
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zero thought
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"You grew up in the business
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for kids? And...
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a hard question to answer
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in life,
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in this industry
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to be cautious of,
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that I've had,
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I've had, ripped away from me?
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the answer is
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to do it,
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to create an environment where
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it's really hard going back
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ahead of us.
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I keep hearing that.
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keep listening to it.
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