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4. Get some juice
in the glass!
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was kid everything.
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where only kids win.
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of everything cool.
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Ren & Stimpy.
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before when I was comin' up
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no internet, like...
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Netflix and Hulu.
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ten things to choose from.
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that your house had cable.
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who was able
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Nickelodeon Lifetime
Achievement Award
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making all of us laugh
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32. Dan Schneider!
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33. The 2014
Kid's Choice Awards
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35. was Nickelodeon's golden boy.
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that were...
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successful for them.
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the careers of child actors
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children's entertainment
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he was elated,
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predicted his downfall.
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a child of the '90s...
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ruin that for you.
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Dan seemed like
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around Dan
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gaining momentum.
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that were very weird.
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that referenced porn.
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on Jamie Lynn's face
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13 years old.
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looking back
at old scenes and saying,
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65. "Dan Schneider
is obsessed with feet."
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and foul things.
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children's feet.
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absolutely
disgusting.
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are you doing?
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of Ariana Grande
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inappropriate for children.
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at Dan Schneider's stars,
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became extremely famous,
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really struggled publicly.
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are starting to speak out
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when they were on his sets.
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emotionally abusive producer.
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around Dan Schneider
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at Nickelodeon.
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behind the scenes.
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to investigate further.
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for someone to question
the climate.
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to say, "This hurt me."
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just doesn't go away.
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a toxic, unsafe environment.
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sit on it anymore.
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people to be accountable.
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17 years for today.
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a little wild.
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All right, guys.
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parents are, like,
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the kid is the star.
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119. You know, sometimes
parents are so dumb.
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to educate you.
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to have fun, to get slimed,
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to tell you about.
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it's gooey, it's sticky.
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did that feel?
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130. Like my son threw up on me.
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131. In the mid-'90s,
Nickelodeon is pushing
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Dan Schneider arrives.
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out of Memphis.
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as sort of
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from a father
who went to Harvard.
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for him.
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to be massively successful.
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to find himself in drama.
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about Dan say
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attended the university.
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for this teen movie
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and he gets a job.
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leads to Dan
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a really big show.
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on Head of the Class
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one of the biggest comedies
on TV.
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on the map, I mean...
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and this...
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in restaurants now.
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driven by this fat joke.
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that that's not who I am.
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I'm this talented writer."
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168. His first rip that he sold
in TV was Head of the Class.
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because of that show.
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first launched in 1994.
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for kids.
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for Nickelodeon
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sketch comedy
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ever really done sketch comedy
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of his career,
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early producing partner
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got noticed by the press
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for All That.
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to go on national television
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1,000 different characters.
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- Yeah.
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a really edgy concept.
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Dan Schneider
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at Nickelodeon.
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launch the career
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biggest names
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and Kenan Thompson.
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for congestion?
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for Nickelodeon
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a pretty scrappy production
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the biggest names
in entertainment
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by a talking cheeseburger.
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our break on All That.
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was my mentor.
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my first audition,
he was there.
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he was there.
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filming the pilot,
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you're gonna be great."
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a million bucks.
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called my parents and said,
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how you would feel
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The Katrina Johnson Show."
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the dream life,
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the head writer, so...
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Executive producer.
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he gets the headset.
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behind the scenes interviews,
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presenting himself
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and really funny boss.
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a really fun set.
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he would inspire you
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it was that you needed
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they were long days.
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to push them
towards greatness.
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another side.
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in the entertainment industry
are vulnerable.
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between a child and an adult
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an employment situation.
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to 15-year-olds...
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if they get in trouble?
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don't poke the soft spots
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and in your brain.
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start to the green room.
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fit into my body
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very exposed.
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we get a script,
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on All That named Nose Boy.
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a superhero costume
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tights and underwear.
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different about this...
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a prosthetic nose,
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on the costume.
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special powers?
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but notice
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penis and testicles
on my shoulders.
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playing this role.
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for other children.
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as young as six.
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is effectively a joke.
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for children.
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back at it,
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just uncomfortable.
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the moments to myself
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be thinking, like...
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we gotta do be on the show.
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and stay in the good graces
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that were higher up."
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felt like they could not
push back,
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Dan Schneider.
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of, uh, success.
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to be on his good side.
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who was on his good side.
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uh, the producers
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to my parents and said,
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six hours a day.
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the fat one." Like...
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in my head to this day.
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the producers freak out
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I look like a woman
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little girlish anymore,
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became an issue.
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a younger version of me.
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ten-year-old Amanda.
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comedy club on Sunset.
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workshops for kids.
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had gone to support Katrina.
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that she couldn't pop
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in heaven
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I remember thinking...
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of your nose."
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a really kickass routine
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in Nickelodeon.
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Amanda Bynes.
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her talent
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in All That immediately.
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It's me, Amanda.
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kicked on me at school.
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to school on set.
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there would be times
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grow closer
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a parent or guardian
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to stay out the way.
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this was out first job.
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like, she had...
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and high expectations
from him.
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Hands up.
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was always felt.
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was his relationship
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Amanda's career.
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for a lot of the cast members.
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and less and less
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physical comedy really shines
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And it was
her big break,
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Dan Schneider's big break.
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the first time
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a whole new level
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be consequences
to that later on.
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- Oh!
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- Good to see you.
Yeah, I like yours too.
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to have Amanda...
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is a lot of ways.
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female comedians do not...
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a million hoops.
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that girls occupy
in Hollywood.
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really sweet.
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cute, young.
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built for male consumption.
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was like a new deviation
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in Hollywood.
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an unpredictable man
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Really funny.
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it's a spotlight
on her comedic talent,
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that is kind of rare to see.
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that for this kind of
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to be celebrated,
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a lot of women
behind the scenes.
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on The Amanda Show
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the most disturbing
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in an abusive relationship.
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of positions for women
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the opportunities
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going in for the one spot.
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forums where people
would talk about writing
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one of those groups,
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writing group.
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was in that group
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he was working on this new
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for Nickelodeon.
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a shot and I asked him
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that he told me later
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to his Writer's Assistant
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"Read through these
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funniest on top."
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to find that mine was on top
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what prompted him to call me.
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at my desk at work...
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called me
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we're offering you
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on The Amanda Show."
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a dream come true.
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in LA for seven years
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very satisfying
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was gonna pay me
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speaking to the line producer
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I was going to have to
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that I did not know.
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two for the price of one.
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hire two woman
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share a salary.
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happen to any of the men.
Copy !req
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"Well, I'm excited,
I get to stop temping."
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this is what I wanted.
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I worked so hard for.
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Copy !req
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"Don't be a complainer.
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do whatever you have to
do to get this job."
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the early days
being a lot of fun.
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which was very exciting.
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you know, Hollywood.
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on the job,
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my writing partner.
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to get along with.
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I liked her immediately.
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and fun
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540. and those
early days were great!
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when we first started,
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he didn't think
women were funny.
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can't write funny.
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a funny female writer.
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in the writers' room.
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indication of trouble.
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didn't really value
women in the writers' room.
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551. "Hey, do you mind
that I refer to you
and Christy as the girls?
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Where are the girls?"
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were, like, "No."
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Because I can't stand girls
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about things like that."
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I knew that next time
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if I mind something,
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and wrong answer.
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559. And thank God
I answered right.
Copy !req
560. Dan
ran the writers' room.
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561. He was there anytime
we were doing any work
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564. and being dirty
was part of the silliness.
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My name is Penelope Taynt.
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that Dan created.
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- Yeah, I know.
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569. He came up
with the name Penelope Taynt.
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the part of the body
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the penis and the anus.
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that's the taint.
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in the writers' room,
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what this word really means."
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to keep that a secret.
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from Nickelodeon
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and saying like,
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you know, this dirty thing?"
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579. And Dan was like,
"No. Why would you
think that's, like, tainted?
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tainted something."
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581. And they were like, "Okay."
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583. That is power.
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584. That you can just
say you want something
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588. and it's one of those things
where it's like, "Ooh."
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590. It's a young girl.
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591. And bless Amanda
and bless The Amanda Show.
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you know, she's praying
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about connecting this, like,
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portraying a little girl too.
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there was a permissibility
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jokes with children.
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par for the course.
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amused Dan
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601. and that was just
one of the things
he thought was funny.
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pranks and jokes,
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I would see, you know,
an instant message pop up.
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607. Scream "hammers."
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608. And you scream it.
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more degrading, like,
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611. or "slut."
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send you the message again,
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614. he would scream out,
"Say it." until you did.
Copy !req
615. One time Dan said,
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616. "I'll give you $300
to eat two pints of
ice cream in 30 minutes."
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I've got half a salary,
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two pints of ice cream
in 30 minutes.
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620. And I did,
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621. and I was throwing up
afterwards but it was fine.
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623. and I knew he must've
forgotten about it.
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624. - So one day he said...
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625. "Somebody kill
that fly for $30."
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626. And I go, "Should I
add it to your tab?"
Copy !req
627. Dan took me into his office
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628. and he said, "How dare you
accuse me of not making
good on my bets?"
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629. And I was like, "No, no,
no, no. I was, I was just
kinda kidding around."
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630. He had, um, fostered this
very casual, fun atmosphere,
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631. but I felt that Dan
could be very volatile
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632. and could turn any moment.
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633. I was... I was scared.
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Nickelodeon was creating this
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a mini Hollywood.
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637. where all these actors
are kind of competing
for the same roles,
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638. they all know each other
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639. and they are in their
own little ecosystem.
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640. Are you
nominated?
- Yes.
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about that?
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642. Um, it's real exciting.
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643. I'm honored
to be nominated.
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644. I don't think I'm gonna win,
but it's still cool.
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645. Something that
epitomizes that really well
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647. which is almost like the kids'
version of the Oscars.
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Choice is Amanda Bynes!
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649. Amanda Bynes gets
the Kids' Choice Awards.
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650. She was hugely successful
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651. and was becoming one of these
massive, massive A-list stars.
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652. Thank you all! Oh, my God!
This is so exciting!
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653. Okay. I want to say
thank you to Nickelodeon,
Brian Robbins, Dan Schneider.
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is on Nickelodeon.
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655. She was
giving interviews,
she was on talk shows,
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656. she was everywhere.
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657. Dan Schneider
was very responsible
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658. for Amanda Bynes'
career at that point
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659. and they were
very tied to each other
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660. and I think she trusted him.
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661. My name
is Raquel Lee Bolleau
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662. and I was on the first season
of The Amanda Show.
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663. Mrs. Shane...
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664. The Amanda Show was huge.
It was huge!
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665. We had fans coming
and wanting to, like,
see us every episode.
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666. As a 12-year-old girl,
I was over the moon.
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667. I was so excited.
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668. We'd be out
and people would say,
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669. "Oh, my goodness. You're that
girl on The Amanda Show."
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670. It was a pretty big show.
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671. There was
Amanda, of course,
and there was me and Drake.
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672. Him and I were
so silly on this show.
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673. Amanda was the star.
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674. So, I think we both knew
that we weren't the stars
of the show very early on.
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675. She's the star
so she gets
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676. the extra, extra
handy-dandy equipment.
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677. On The Amanda Show,
Dan is the king maker.
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678. He is the one who is deciding
who gets a spin-off,
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679. who gets the most lines.
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680. If you are on
Dan's bad side,
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kiss your career goodbye.
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682. You wanted Dan to like you
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683. 'cause if he didn't,
he was mean to you.
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685. People brought me
this big, big cake,
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Copy !req
687. It was great to be
able to share the cake
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688. with the whole crew
and everyone else,
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689. but it was told to me,
"Dan's really upset."
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690. Like, "Why did you
get her that cake?"
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that big of a cake."
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I felt it.
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you want to speak up,
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Raquel to face any backlash
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that I had, uh, done.
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saying to me
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699. she felt that
he may have favored,
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700. uh, Drake and Amanda
more than her.
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701. I remember Dan
and Amanda Bynes being
very close on The Amanda Show
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702. and I think very few people
made Dan laugh.
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703. You know,
and I think she did.
Copy !req
704. In rehearsal,
she would say funny things
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Copy !req
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this is your doctor.
Yes, Doctor...
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saw Amanda
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physically with Dan.
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that I saw Amanda
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hugging him
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711. or giving him, like,
a neck massage or whatever.
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had a close relationship
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anything different than that.
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was always a little odd.
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and I'm the headliner.
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to each other right now.
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it's Amanda Bynes,
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wearing a swimsuit
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723. and next to her
is Dan Schneider
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726. I created this situation.
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we are in this hot tub.
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the executive producer
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730. of the show,
can I have a raise?
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731. No.
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people viewed it as comedy,
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some people
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734. are very uncomfortable
with the implication.
Copy !req
735. For me, looking back
at The Amanda Show
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736. is really a kinda sad
and strange experience.
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as years went on
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738. Amanda and Dan's relationship
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739. would take
a turn for the worse.
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740. It is also bittersweet
to watch knowing
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741. what the women were dealing
with behind the scenes.
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742. He became a worse
and worse person to work for.
Copy !req
743. Dan called me
at home
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744. and he asked me
if I was conspiring
against the company.
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745. He said,
"If I find out that you did,
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746. you're never gonna
work for Nickelodeon again."
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747. Dan got
worse and worse
as the season got on.
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748. And because
I was a first-time writer,
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749. I didn't know
what was acceptable
and not acceptable.
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750. And so Christy and I
both did things that
were uncomfortable.
Copy !req
751. Dan was showing pornography
on his computer screen.
Copy !req
752. He'd asked me several times
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753. to massage him
in the writers' room
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754. and in the studio.
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755. And he would
say things sometimes, like,
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756. "Uh, can you please
give me a massage?
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757. I'll put one of your
sketches in the show."
Copy !req
758. And he would always present it
like a joke, you know?
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759. And he would be laughing
while he said it, um, but...
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760. You always felt like
disagreeing with Dan
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761. or saying...
Or standing up for yourself
Copy !req
762. could result
in you getting fired.
Copy !req
763. One of the worst one was, was
we were in the writers' room
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764. and Christy was talking
about high school,
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for a young girl,
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767. and Dan was just...
said, "You know what
would be funny?
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over the table
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769. and acted like
you were being sodomized
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about high school."
Copy !req
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772. and then he was kind of like,
"Oh, come on, come on.
It'd be so funny. Just do it.
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773. It'd be so funny."
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was kind of laughing too
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775. 'cause he's making it,
like, this big joke.
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he's begging her.
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leaned over the table and did
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Dan asking you
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being sodomized?
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784. I don't wanna
talk about that.
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786. like, I'm not proud of it
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787. and I'm also, like, ugh...
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788. Thinking about it now,
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789. yeah, it's like...
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790. Oh, boy.
I just think of that
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791. poor girl and what she
had to, you know, go through.
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792. Um, yeah.
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793. And I would not
do that today,
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795. Um, it was upsetting
to watch
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796. because you know... I know,
I knew Christy at this point
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at all comfortable
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798. complaining to him about
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799. anything that might
make him feel like, "Ugh,
there's a girl in the room.
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800. She's killing the vibe."
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that can't take a joke.
Copy !req
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the wrongest thing
Copy !req
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happen to a woman in
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environment ever.
Copy !req
806. And then all of a sudden I had
heard about mid-season,
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the writers split their salary
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the rules for the show.
Copy !req
809. So I called the Writers Guild
to ask them if that was true.
Copy !req
810. Can, can there be teams
on this show and they said no.
Copy !req
811. Jenny told me this
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812. and I was going, like, "Wow.
Copy !req
813. They were trying
to pull a fast one."
Copy !req
814. Dan called me at home
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against the company.
Copy !req
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that the guild was now
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for our separate salaries
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that made that happen.
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that you did,
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work for Nickelodeon again
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Copy !req
824. I was terrified
'cause I'd never seen him
quite that scary before
Copy !req
825. and also,
you know, angry too.
Copy !req
826. He had gotten caught doing
something ethically wrong
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827. and said, "If I find out
you told on me,
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even worse to you.
Copy !req
829. You're not gonna
work again."
Copy !req
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started to change with Dan.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
832. When he walked on the set,
the crew could feel it.
Copy !req
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making jokes anymore.
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834. There was a few times
when he came down
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835. that he lit everybody up.
Copy !req
836. Dan yelled a lot.
Copy !req
837. Dan was like a tornado.
Copy !req
838. He'd come in
and, like, phew...
Copy !req
839. You'd be like, "Wow. Okay.
What just happened?"
Copy !req
840. Dan showed up.
Copy !req
841. The set would
not feel the same
when, when he would leave
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842. because, you know, I think
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843. because everybody
was on their toes, scared.
Copy !req
844. He could
literally be nice
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845. and then mean and then nice
Copy !req
846. and then mean, like,
throughout the day.
Copy !req
847. So one minute I'm like,
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848. "I've got Dan wrong.
He's really nice.
He's supportive."
Copy !req
849. and then, like,
an hour later I could be like,
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850. "This guy is scary as hell."
Copy !req
851. We were all feeling,
near the end, paranoid,
Copy !req
852. uncomfortable, um...
Copy !req
853. It was just a bad...
it was just a bad vibe.
Copy !req
854. We all felt like,
you know, the axe
could drop at any moment.
Copy !req
855. It was our last week of work
Copy !req
856. for Season 1
of The Amanda Show.
Copy !req
857. I had this meeting
at my manager's office
Copy !req
858. and, uh, by the time
I got in my car to
go back to the office,
Copy !req
859. I had been fired.
Copy !req
860. Dan, basically,
owned all of your time.
Copy !req
861. Your weekends, after work,
Copy !req
862. and Christy had done
two personal things
during the season, like,
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a concert on the weekend
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friends over one night
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865. and she basically
got fired for that.
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866. It just felt
very vindictive that, um,
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867. it was three days,
three more days of,
of, of being paid.
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868. So I went back to temping
and I had nothing.
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869. I went down
to the studio to meet with Dan
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He said, "Here's the deal.
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871. We're bringing you back
for Season 2, staff writer.
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872. We're offering you
a 16-week contract,
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work the whole season."
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874. Which was,
I believe, 27 weeks.
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875. He was telling me I had
to work 11 weeks for free
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876. and I was devastated.
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878. I'd written well,
I'd paid my dues
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879. and he said, This is
all the money that we have."
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880. And then, meanwhile,
he hired a white male
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you know, first job
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on the same show,
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11 weeks for free."
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in Season 2.
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into his office,
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890. and then he called me in
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were standing
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behind his desk.
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"Okay, pitch your idea."
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895. and he said,
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896. "Didn't you
used to do phone sex?"
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out of nowhere.
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899. And he goes like,
"Didn't you tell us?
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say that last season,
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have a job like that,
something like that?"
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903. I was destroyed.
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904. I went outside,
I was crying.
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905. I can't do this.
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906. So, I did. I went home
and I quit.
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907. And it was so devastating.
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to let go of that job but...
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909. I mean, I just
couldn't do it anymore.
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910. There's no way I was
gonna be the only woman
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world with him. No way.
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912. I was
at my temping job.
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913. I get a call from Jenny,
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914. "I'm suing Dan."
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915. And I remember thinking...
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916. Like, it just
took me by surprise
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917. because we were all afraid.
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918. We are all afraid.
That's why just me
and Jenny are talking to you.
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919. Like, people
are afraid of him.
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I did it was because
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921. I didn't want this
to be happening to
other women in the future.
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922. She said, "Hey, um,
can, can you write
a letter on my behalf?"
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923. And I said,
"Of course, I will."
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924. And so then I hired...
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and started blowing whistles.
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filed complaints
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production company
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harassment...
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an internal investigation
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933. but it had
a lasting impact
on my career.
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934. I mean, I knew that.
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935. I knew that this
was the end of my career,
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937. Like, it had better stop.
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938. And to learn
that it didn't stop?
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939. That it was all for nothing?
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Dan Schneider's first show
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942. against him
for gender discrimination
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a toxic work place,
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big show that he did.
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of the issues that we see
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Dan Schneider's empire,
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from the beginning.
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948. How safe can any kids
be in that environment
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the adult women
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behind the scenes?
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there was always this,
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what was appropriate
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953. and what was inappropriate.
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954. I don't like this.
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955. But there would be
even bigger problems
down the line
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956. with actual pedophiles
on set.
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957. Van Nuys division
officers have arrested
a suspected child predator
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a nine-year-old girl,
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there may be more victims.
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