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1. I'm Penn, and this is my partner, Charlie.

2. This week's show is all about life coaching

3. people you hire to push you along in your life.

4. Like a flashlight, flashlight person.

5. Now, Teller's working on a trick called the cups and balls.

6. But I want to make it clear that I can't do these moves.

7. He's doing.

8. Man, that hand looks cramped because he doesn't want him to look.

9. And yet I can help him. I'm outside of him.

10. I can see mistakes like that one.

11. I can also give advice such as a trick like this needs more talking.

12. My coaching might help teller do a better job.

13. There you go.

14. Very good. I didn't see the low.

15. Very good.

16. A life coach should help you do a better job of your life.

17. In theory, that's great.

18. In reality, life coaching is bullshit.

19. Oh, chocolate. Raisins.

20. Tasty.

21. I find them,

22. they can get.

23. And. The

24. boo boo boo boo. You.

25. Back. Who?

26. You do. You.

27. We wanted to see what life coaching is all about.

28. So we found life coaches who made lists

29. and life coaches who meditated,

30. had life coaches who opened cardboard boxes,

31. and life coaches who danced.

32. Had life coaches who cuddled

33. and had life coaches who we couldn't possibly understand.

34. Okay. Back. More on that later.

35. Life coaching is more popular than ever.

36. books, and there are over 15,000 life coaches in America.

37. But just because something's popular doesn't mean it makes sense.

38. Like religion.

39. Sorry.

40. It's a it's a life coaching show. Oh,

41. but first, what the fuck is life coaching?

42. Life coaching really means you're taking action steps to transform your life.

43. If we had all had coaches 100 years ago,

44. the world might be in a different place today.

45. It's a revolutionary new professional relationship.

46. Revolutionary thing.

47. Well, maybe we should hear them out and then we'll say it's bullshit.

48. Rich Raffles leadership relationship and life.

49. Coach is our first life coach standing in the middle of the street. Wow.

50. Not much traffic savvy, but apparently Rich has

51. a natural talent for coaching, tutoring and mentoring.

52. See, it says so on his resume.

53. He was also certified four years ago by the coaches Training Institute.

54. He's wearing the official coaches jersey.

55. Life can be joyful, magical and fun.

56. It can be.

57. You can have your dreams.

58. That's what coaching is about.

59. Oh, no no, no.

60. I hope not all my dreams. Not.

61. Not the one where I'm naked with a giant snake attacking my ass.

62. But a joyful and magical and fun life.

63. Sounds good. And other than having to

64. keep your eyes open, that wide life coaching sounds great.

65. Rick shares his coaching magic with clients like this woman.

66. I want a life coach because I want to live a big,

67. enjoyable, fun, magnificent life

68. and if I want to do all that, I need people on my team.

69. This is Susan.

70. She's a successful businesswoman.

71. She even built her own house.

72. Susan has had Rick on her team for the past four years.

73. Don't look that.

74. Rich.

75. Helps me to find answers

76. that I wouldn't find on my own.

77. And that I may well not find with my friends.

78. What kinds of answers?

79. Well, Susan and Rich were kind enough to let us tape one of their sessions.

80. Like many life coaches, Rich did it over the telephone.

81. Life coaches love going hands free.

82. Hey, Susan. How's it going?

83. Well, it's going.

84. You should, said on your prep form that you wanted to kind of,

85. you know, spend some time in the don't know perspective.

86. I really would like to be more comfortable with the don't know mode.

87. So, Susan, what would bring you deeper comfort

88. being in that don't know place.

89. Cultivating this perspective of don't know is fun.

90. Don't know is fun.

91. We don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

92. Yeah. Let's go, let's go. Forward.

93. We've done this before.

94. You know, the next step is to make a plan.

95. Make a plan to be comfortable in the don't know place.

96. Are these guys spies?

97. They speaking in code?

98. What's the Susan's nefarious plan?

99. What I hope I'm going to have in March for my birthday.

100. And going to be this wonderful

101. gong outside my front door.

102. gong?

103. Grabbing this big mallet and just whacking this gong and having this huge

104. vibration going out over the land.

105. And vibration going out over the land.

106. God damn it! Damn.

107. They must be planning an attack.

108. You certainly wouldn't hire a coach to help you decide whether or not you want

109. a gong in front of your house.

110. Oh, fantastic. Susan, it looks like you got it.

111. You got a plan for living in this new perspective?

112. That's right. Nice job, nice job.

113. I'm there to help them grow and move forward in their lives.

114. So if they fail,

115. if they don't follow through on a commitment.

116. Am I upset with them?

117. No I'm not. What do I do?

118. I look for the learning. Why did that not work? Great.

119. You failed. Awesome.

120. You failed. Awesome.

121. I am so fucking confused.

122. That's great.

123. Perfect. Wonderful.

124. Go to that place. Go to that place.

125. Put. Put it out to the universe and know if you feel good about it.

126. The audience will not see the card and will not see the card.

127. Feel good about it. Great, great.

128. Have a.

129. Have a terrific show.

130. Have a terrific show.

131. He'll be back.

132. People can become coaching junkies, excessively dependent

133. upon their coach to determine virtually everything in their life.

134. A kind of guru who makes all of their value judgments

135. as they increasingly suspend their ability to make value judgments of their own.

136. This is Rick Ross by day.

137. He's an expert on cults and other controversial movements.

138. By night, Rick Ross is a crime fighting superhero.

139. Just kidding.

140. But Ross does think this life coaching stuff is a joke.

141. He's been studying it for several years and says there's a reason

142. people like rich rivals take up coaching a bad reason.

143. Life coaching

144. has become increasingly popular because it's a very good source of revenue.

145. It can be done from a person's home.

146. It can be done over email.

147. So all you need is a roof and a telephone headset.

148. And then you two can become, well, rich.

149. And if that seems like a lot of overhead, you could buy a pair

150. of flannel pajamas and become a different type of life coach.

151. Welcome to California. My name. Is.

152. This is read Margot and Marshall Basinski,

153. their relationship coaches, and they run something called a cuddle party.

154. A cuddle party is a workshop and a social event, sort of put together,

155. where people can get affection and practice communication

156. skills and boundaries, setting and meet new people.

157. A bunch of strangers in a room practicing boundary setting.

158. This is an odd kink.

159. So far I like it.

160. Rule number one pajamas.

161. Stay on the whole time.

162. What the fuck is the fucking point?

163. The communication skills that people are getting out of Cuddle

164. party are transforming their other relationships.

165. On your marks. Get set. Go!

166. Tip yourselves onto each other.

167. Your cow tipping now. Help!

168. You an

169. exit.

170. Come up.

171. At least tell us there's going to be some dry humping.

172. Rule number seven is our favorite.

173. And it's no dry humping.

174. Rule number seven is your favorite.

175. Since Reed Marshall was kind enough to come on to our bullshit show.

176. We're going to give them a little life coaching.

177. First, drop rules one and seven, especially seven.

178. Better, especially one.

179. Now, this is a cuddle party.

180. These are a couple more live coaches.

181. What is it with life coaches and standing with?

182. They can be hit by cars.

183. Jermaine and I believe that coaching is a sacred privilege, because our clients

184. are opening up their lives to us and allowing themselves to be vulnerable.

185. Hello, my name is Gedney Tourer.

186. And my name is Jermaine Pausch.

187. And we're professional coaches.

188. They look like professionals too.

189. Nice color coordination.

190. Jed and Jermaine own a business called Eagle's View Consulting,

191. and they've created something called the Eagle's View System.

193. Eagle's view is about getting altitude in your life.

194. Okay.

195. Pilot training or mountain climbing classes?

196. Eagle's view is,

197. time management and project management course.

198. And we've had a breakthrough in time that we call time transformation.

199. So it's about looking at time differently.

200. Oh, okay.

201. Because you're up high like an eagle.

202. You can look at time differently.

203. I'm still not getting the fuck.

204. We better sit in on a jet and jermaine's coaching sessions.

205. These nice people are Don and David.

206. They're husband and wife, and they're business people.

207. Coaching helps you with perspective.

208. We've actually been able to get more done that the other things that we wanted

209. to get done.

210. On the day we visited, David and Don wanted coaching on

211. how to train their new receptionist.

212. We want to try and

213. get some things in place so that we can train this person properly.

214. Do you have a training manual.

215. For a receptionist?

216. The one thing I'm thinking about is we can put up an Eagles

217. view of all the parts of this job.

218. Oh Eagles view. Eagles view.

219. That's their breakthrough in time management.

220. This should solve Don and David's big person to answer the phone problem.

221. And that's why time.

222. Front desk.

223. Well the first element she's got to have a tremendous amount of energy.

224. So a lot of energy. What else.

225. You know, making sure that the appointments are made and kept.

226. What else?

227. Wait a minute.

228. All she's doing is writing down what they're saying.

229. In fact, that's all she did the entire session.

230. Isn't that in the manual?

231. One way we could do this.

232. Your office.

233. Got it.

234. Sometimes, a coach's job is just to listen.

235. and you might be thinking, well, anybody can do that.

236. Yeah. But it's how we listen. Many times.

237. Well, you know, I'll have a client and they'll work out their own problem

238. and just are their own situations, and I.

239. All I'm doing is listening.

240. Germain's being modest.

241. She can listen and use a magic marker at the same time.

242. And she's good at our game. Me, too.

243. She made that really big rectangle into a really big square.

244. Maybe I'm harsh on this mellow, but is it writing a list on a big piece of paper,

245. something David and Don could have done by themselves?

246. Could we have gotten there on our own?

247. Yes, it would have taken us, you know, 3 or 4 times as long.

248. For writers, I guess.

249. It's a fucking receptionist job. You know.

250. Ring, ring, ring.

251. Pick up the phone. Say hello.

252. That's fucking it.

253. So much coaching of Don and David had.

254. We have been coached by Jean Germain for three years.

255. I get coached by Jed and Jermaine generally about once a week.

256. Once a week for three years.

257. That's over 156 stupid lists.

258. Maybe they're getting high on an ass load, a magic marker fumes,

259. and it's affecting their judgment.

260. If only there were some way to get Eagles View products at home.

261. This is our Eagle's View tool kit.

262. A cardboard box.

263. Wonder how much this thing costs.

264. It comes with a workbook, 40 page

265. workbook and audio CD's.

266. A a spiral notebook and some CD's they burned at home.

267. That probably goes for 30 bucks.

268. And this is a project panorama.

269. A project panorama. Is that even a thing?

270. Well, we pay ten bucks and the blank form.

271. That's worth at least a dollar.

272. These are telephone message cards.

273. Post-it notes. Those are worth 250.

274. We also have graph cards for people who like lines on their cards.

275. Lines 270. Five.

276. These are the panorama cards.

277. Index cards with the complicated name.

278. All right. Five bucks.

279. And then our grand total $51.25.

280. His price. And it's $250.

281. $250 for a shitty school supply kit.

282. Holy Christmas, Jew.

283. What the fuck are they talking about?

284. People can be, bled out financially

285. by paying out for these coaches over a period of time.

286. They also might make bad business decisions or decisions

287. in their personal life based on advice from a coach

288. with a dubious track record.

289. This is Daniella Billman, and she has a degree in movement

290. therapy from the Google Buell Institute in Switzerland.

291. She also is the inventor of the vibrant Living a Life coaching process.

292. My specialty is what I call the vibrant living.

293. vibrant living movement with joy.

294. Because, I assist people in getting in touch

295. with their inner nature and their inner challenges.

296. And it's transformation through joyful awareness.

297. Transformation through joyful awareness.

298. This life coaching stuff makes me feel all good, can be all.

299. Deep inhale.

300. Deep. Exhale.

301. Allow your shoulders to relax.

302. Allow your head to drop just a little bit.

303. This is Wilma.

304. She's an operating room nurse.

305. That's a really stressful job.

306. It's even more stressful when you're in pain.

307. Wilma had six

308. major surgeries in two years, and that's why she started seeing Daniela.

309. When I came to Daniela for was to help me move physically.

310. Move better.

311. And what I discovered in this work was that there's parts of my past

312. that I didn't want to address.

313. Wilma has a lot of serious physical and emotional issues to deal with.

314. So what's Daniela solution?

315. So much so.

316. I can address everything with movement.

317. Because I work with,

318. I get to the center of your being to help you to connect to that.

319. We have no idea what the center of our being really is,

320. but I hope it's chock with crane.

321. You are one, Wilma. Free.

322. But you are free.

323. All right.

324. When will my shoes flapping her arms?

325. It's. It's big stuff.

326. It's almost like you're, like, checking

327. opinions of others away.

328. Oh, I don't want to feel the.

329. Oh, it's here.

330. And you are with it.

331. And it's wonderful because it's yours and you're owning it.

332. You are free to express who you are.

333. Now, I say, when a person retains

334. a life coach, the understanding is I need help.

335. I need coaching.

336. Something's broken and it needs to be fixed.

337. And I'm hiring you to do the job.

338. So from the very start, there's an imbalance in power

339. between the person who's paying the coach and the coach

340. who's in a one over one relationship with that individual.

341. So just how does Daniela convince smart people like Wilma

342. to pay her to play shitty pop music and dance?

343. It's fun. It's.

344. It makes very difficult issues very easy.

345. You don't tell her is my life coach.

346. Amazing. I mean, just amazing.

347. He really gets to the core of things.

348. He breaks really tough problems.

349. Down to easy answer.

350. No. I never signed up. Bullshit.

351. Released parade my personal life on camera.

352. So I'll just tell you that I had that important decision to make.

353. I asked teller if I should take this big step.

354. With barely a moment's hesitation, he said,

355. it is certain what I asked about a relationship

356. I was in, and immediately said, you may rely on.

357. Amazing.

358. So I asked about this other little problem I was having with the monologue,

359. and I guess maybe I'm pushing a little too hard because he said reply hazy.

360. Try again.

361. I have no idea where he gets all the wisdom.

362. I guess he's really in touch with the very center of my being.

363. And And he's really wonderful.

364. I know. Tell me one more question.

365. What about those cuddle people?

366. This is Lee waters.

367. He wrote the feature film artwork.

368. It's about someone with an empty life.

369. Takes advantage of those she's supposed to be protecting.

370. Now that. Works.

371. Lee is also a life coach in Los Angeles, and the author of the book

372. Three Days to a Life That Works Three Days.

373. He's quick.

374. What I do is I remind people of common sense.

375. That's what any coach does.

376. But Lee's not just any coach.

377. During his coaching sessions.

378. He channels someone called Andrew.

379. Andrew is a personality of the greater wisdom, if you will, a greater energy

380. that that came about as a result of my asking

381. for practical applications of spirituality.

382. It's pretty scary, folks.

383. Hold on to your seats.

384. This is Lee.

385. Lee waters life coach and channeler.

386. And this is Lee channeling Andrew.

387. We're amused.

388. This should be fun.

389. We are.

390. Andrew, one voice of the greater wisdom, the God of energy, the universe

391. we speak through. Lee waters.

392. The spirit asshole uses the royal wing.

393. But to help you to differentiate between Lee and Andrew.

394. Teller will play his zither.

395. Whenever Andrew is talking wise of the music, because it's our show.

396. And things do get really confusing when Lee channels Andrew to talk about Lee.

397. Lee had a boss one time.

398. He used to get very infuriated with him for for being too calm.

399. One of the things that drives Lee crazy that his son does,

400. but it's really cute, is to constantly ask why Lee is.

401. Lee is. Lee is.

402. Lee is a great questioner.

403. He's great. Ask her. He's beneath Lee when channeling.

404. Andrew thinks Lee is great, but Lee isn't the only one Andrew has spoken through.

405. We've come.

406. We've chosen many different people to speak through.

407. you you have you have the older, older, older

408. teachers like Muhammad and even Jesus.

409. That's right.

410. Lee, as Andrew just compared himself to Jesus and Muhammad.

411. And we are so with him on that one.

412. We're heading down to the beach to see Lee do that cool walking on water thing.

413. Lee and Andrew are holding a session with this woman.

414. Her name is Georgia Jane, and she's, Well,

415. caterer slash assisted slash psychic slash.

416. As a caterer slash personal assistant.

417. Georgia Jane has had some money problems.

418. Oddly, as a psychic, she can't see her own future well enough to pick a career.

419. I would like to pay off all my credit cards by the end of the year.

420. How is the

421. best way that I should be putting that out to the universe?

422. Let's, let's ask Andrew about that.

423. Let's see what they say.

424. Here comes

425. Jesus Mohammed Andrew to help this woman solve her credit card problems.

426. If there were a God and you got to ask it one question,

427. would you really ask him about your credit card debt?

428. Welcome back.

429. Welcome back. It's good to see you again.

430. When you think about money, when you think about relationships,

431. when you think about work, just spend time in those places where it feels good.

432. There's no law that says you have to feel bad, right?

433. Feel good.

434. That's Jesus. Mohammed Andrew's philosophy.

435. And in an amazing coincidence, Lee said the exact same thing a few minutes.

436. Later, finding thoughts that feel better.

437. That's the most powerful thing

438. anybody can do, is just find thoughts that feel better around money,

439. for instance, around career or whatever it is.

440. Thank you Jesus.

441. But what about those bills you need to pay bills, not put them out to the universe?

442. A life coach who's exploiting people

443. can keep them on as a client by,

444. first of all, soliciting a subjective experience from them.

445. Do you feel better?

446. I always. Feel good.

447. I feel very positive after saying him.

448. I, I feel free, I feel lighter.

449. I'm getting touch and human connection, which feels really nice.

450. I would still accomplish a lot without Rich, but I wouldn't

451. enjoy it as much.

452. So how much do all these good feelings cost anyway?

453. Let's ask those Eagles view clients.

454. You know.

455. I don't know exactly what it cost to get coach,

456. because I don't pay the bills in my office.

457. Big surprise.

458. Lead charges his clients $100 an hour.

459. Andrew explains.

460. We we we gave we gave $100 an hour figure.

461. I have a package monthly fee that runs from 300 to $400.

462. $400 a month.

463. You don't even dance or channel.

464. If it's free.

465. It's not costing them anything, so they'll blow it off.

466. They won't take it suit, you know, if they're paying for it and it's cut,

467. they're going to show up.

468. They're going to work their butt off, you know,

469. because they're writing that check every month.

470. So the big service you're providing is taking their money.

471. Well, we finally agree.

472. Sometimes people need to pay for advice before they'll listen to it.

473. That's exactly what Jesus said.

474. Weird. Of course, money is good.

475. That's why life coaching does work for at least one person.

476. My shit is more together than ever been.

477. I am more psyched on my life than I ever have been.

478. And do we have a pillow for.

479. And meanwhile, back of a cuddle party.

480. Things were cuddling over in,

481. okay.

482. The cuddling looks a little dull, but these people seem to like it.

483. I would absolutely pay $30 to come to a cuddle party.

484. Whoa.

485. Did she just say pay 30 bucks for this?

486. All they did was lie around.

487. No grab ass, no hide the pickle, and absolutely no dry humping.

488. Fucking rule number seven.

489. With cuddle party.

490. The reason we turned it into a,

491. you know, for profit business was it became a full time job immediately.

492. And it was clear to us that there was a lot more to develop

493. and and research.

494. Develop and research.

495. You know, the fucking Mayo Clinic.

496. This is hugging.

497. Next you're going to saying they want to patent it.

498. You know I wish we could patent it. Told you.

499. But why would someone pay for this?

500. I'm a guy who used to not get a lot of touch at all,

501. and I'm getting more and more.

502. Hey, you're a handsome guy.

503. You've got that cool John Malkovich look, you don't need some pajama

504. wearing, floor crawling, blue ball getting slumber party.

505. People are

506. looking for problem solving solutions.

507. They're looking for answers to their issues.

508. Loneliness, divorce.

509. They're also looking for instant, solutions.

510. Somebody once asked us if we were taking advantage of

511. lonely people and our.

512. Our textbook reply is, well, our restaurant

513. is taking advantage of hungry people.

514. So yes, there's something we forgot to tell you about those eagle people.

515. When getting aren't busy coaching clients, they're cranking out

516. new coaches through their business Coach Lab International.

517. Part of our philosophy, about coaching is that anyone can learn to be a coach.

518. That sure matches what we've seen.

519. But let's play along.

520. What's a guy got to do to be certified as a life coach?

521. Well, a person has to go through the three month long certification program.

522. Actually, their course is 18 hours of instruction

523. spread over three months, and most of that's done over the phone.

524. Oh, and there's one more requirement.

525. One of the key things is that they have to have client paying client,

526. Once they

527. become coaches and they're out there and their business

528. is they're coaching people and we're coaching them

529. in their coaching practice and how they're coaching people.

530. And what coach do I pay to figure that out?

531. Speaking of money, how much does Jet and Jermaine certification cost?

532. The investment for a person to be certified is $5,000.

533. 5000 bucks?

534. I mean 5000 bucks.

535. And all you have to do is talk on the phone for 18 hours.

536. Fuck.

537. We teach a couple of these classes and we could buy a real live eagle.

538. We name ours Eddie.

539. Feel safe.

540. And those cuddle parties will train you to be a cuddle party facilitator

541. for a mere 700 bucks. Downright cheap.

542. But you have to supply your own jammies.

543. And what qualifies them to run these classes?

544. I've been a bartender for 15 years now, and so, you know,

545. one way to look at it is for 15 years, I've been doing field work.

546. Sure, you could look at it like that if you were a money grubbing

547. cattle monger.

548. Oh, by the way, remember the channel monkeys

549. book Three Days to a Life that Works?

550. Half the pages are blank.

551. It's really only a day and a half.

552. The lack of regulation for the coaches themselves

553. means that virtually anyone can hang out a shingle.

554. And he does mean anyone.

555. Shouldn't Jermaine take a lot of other people's money?

556. But at the end of the day, they do one thing pro bono because they're givers.

557. May I call to please.

558. Please Jermaine?

559. Jermaine and I have conversations where I might be coaching her

560. and she might be coaching me.

561. Man. Coach, you. Sure?

562. But before we do any coaching, we make sure we have permission.

563. You don't want to tell your spouse things unless they're willing to listen.

564. We've learned that, right, honey? Yeah.

565. We actually developed a course called, Transforming nagging to coaching.

566. I'm surprised you're not watching the game.

567. Hand me one of those, please.

568. Give me the other one.

569. Please. Hand me that.

570. Just walk fun and go.

571. We have a really good marriage.

572. we don't always, appear happy like we are.

573. All right.

574. you know, I could push you right in the, like, breakdown. Now.

575. That would have been a life coaching lesson.

576. I pay to see. When people need help.

577. The first line to seek help from is the support system around you.

578. Your friends, your family,

579. the people that you've known and trusted all of your life.

580. So maybe you're not good enough to go pro

581. as a dancer, a prostitute, or a ventriloquist.

582. There's good news. Become a life coach.

583. People have always had problems, and ever since the first confessional

584. went into a church, there's always been somebody making

585. a living telling you how to feel better without actually solving your problems.

586. Life coaches are like hookers, which is good, except they're running

587. you ears instead of genitals and you never get to come.

588. So if you need help with your problems before you spend a lot of money

589. on some asshole selling a metaphor, why not save a few bucks

590. and give yourself something that will last,

591. like one of these?

592. A friend.

593. Now, what qualifies you to be a life coach?

594. I'm 47,

595. has patience.

596. And I'm like.