1. DIVISION OF LABOR.
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2. I'M GONNA PROVE THAT THE OUIJA
OR SPIRIT BOARD IS BULLSHIT.
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3. AND TELLER IS GONNA
SHOOT FISH IN A BARREL.
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4. YOU MISSED.
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5. WELL, SOME FOLKS STILL BELIEVE
IN THE OUIJA BOARD, TOO.
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6. THE SPIRIT WORLD—
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7. A WORLD OF MYSTERY,
A WORLD OF INTRIGUE,
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8. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE
TO VISIT A PSYCHIC
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9. OR TRAVEL TO THE CARNIVAL
TO HAVE A SOMEWHAT SUPERNATURAL EXPERIENCE.
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10. YOU CAN FOOL YOURSELF WITH
YOUR VERY OWN, HOME HOAX KIT.
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11. IT'S THAT SLUMBER PARTY GAME
CALLED THE OUIJA BOARD.
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12. THERE ARE 2 SURE THINGS YOU
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13. ONE—IT'LL SET YOU BACK
ABOUT 20 BUCKS.
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14. AND 2, IT'S BULLSHIT.
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15. BUT THAT HASN'T STOPPED
VULTURES FROM USING THE OUIJA OR SPIRIT BOARD
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16. TO MAKE A BUCK OFF
OUR OBSESSION WITH DEATH
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17. AND THE DESIRE TO CONTACT
THE AFTERLIFE.
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18. ALL THIS OUIJA HOOEY
GOT DISCREDITED BIG-TIME IN THE EARLY TWENTIETH CENTURY
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19. WHEN MAGICIAN HARRY HOUDINI
ROUTINELY DEBUNKED THE SEANCE.
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20. BUT THANKS TO THE BABY BOOM,
SPIRIT BOARDS TOOK OFF AGAIN IN THE 1960s.
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21. OVER 25 MILLION SPIRIT BOARDS
HAVE BEEN SOLD,
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22. AND TODAY A WHOLE NEW GENERATION
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23. IS BEING LED DOWN
THIS BULLSHIT PATH TO CONTACT THE DEAD.
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24. GET A LOAD OF THESE WHACK-JOBS.
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25. WE, THE ELDERS
OF SALEM WITCHCRAFT,
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26. DO CONJURE AND SUMMON
THE PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS THAT RULE OVER SALEM,
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27. THAT THEY MAY OPEN A DOORWAY
TO THE SPIRIT WORLD.
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28. I'M SORRY. I SNORTED SODA
THROUGH MY NOSE.
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29. EACH OF US HAS OUR OWN SPIRITUAL
CONNECTION TO THE OTHER SIDE.
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30. WE'VE ALL FELT IT.
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31. CHRISTIAN DAY,
ELDER OF SALEM WITCHCRAFT.
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32. SPIRIT BOARDS ACT
AS A CHANNEL BETWEEN OURSELVES AND THE OTHER SIDE.
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33. THIS IS THE WORLD
WE ALL LIVE IN.
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34. PHYSICAL WORLD,
PHYSICAL REALITY.
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35. BUT UNDERNEATH,
THIS IS LIKE A WINDOW.
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36. I'M SHAWN PORIER,
HIGH PRIEST OF THE SALEM TRADITION OF WITCHCRAFT.
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37. OUR HANDS ARE HERE
ON THE SEER.
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38. THEIR HANDS
ARE COMING FROM HERE.
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39. I BELIEVE THAT THE SPIRITS
DO GUIDE OUR HANDS.
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40. SANDRA MARIAH POWER,
HIGH PRIESTESS.
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41. OUR COLLECTIVE ENERGY
IS MOVING THE PLANCHETTE.
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42. THERE ARE PEOPLE
WHO ARE NATURALLY IN TUNED TO CONTACT THE OTHER SIDE.
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43. AND WHEN THEY PICK UP
A OUIJA BOARD, IT'S JUST LIKE LIGHTNING.
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44. BOB MURCH,
SPIRIT BOARD COLLECTOR.
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45. THERE'S BEEN THOUSANDS
OF YEARS OF ACCOUNTS OF GHOSTS AND HAUNTINGS.
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46. AND IF THOSE ARE TRUE,
YOU KNOW, SURELY A SPIRIT BOARD CAN WORK.
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47. SO IF THOSE AREN'T TRUE,
A SPIRIT BOARD CAN'T WORK?
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48. COOL.
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49. DIVISION OF LABOR.
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50. I'M STILL WORKING
ON THE OUIJA BOARD,
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51. AND TELLER WILL BE
FALLING OFF A LOG.
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52. WE'RE A HARD-HITTING
SERIOUS SHOW,
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53. SO WE DECIDED TO GO
AFTER THE OUIJA BOARD.
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54. WE WONDERED HOW DIFFICULT
IT WOULD BE TO DEBUNK THE DARNED THING.
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55. AAH!
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56. JESUS CHRIST ON CRUTCHES.
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57. OOF. ARE YOU OK, TELLER?
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58. THAT LOOKED LIKE IT HURT.
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59. WE'RE TRAVELING TO THE SPIRIT
BULLSHIT CAPITAL OF THE WORLD,
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60. SALEM, MASSACHUSETTS.
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61. Christian Day: PEOPLE COME
FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD
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62. TO EXPERIENCE THE MYSTICAL
NATURE OF SALEM, WHICH INCLUDES THE WITCHES,
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63. THE SPIRIT BOARDS,
THE TAROT CARDS, THE CRYSTAL BALL.
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64. WELL, THEY'LL NEVER GET RID
OF THE WITCH STIGMA HERE
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65. BECAUSE 20 INNOCENT PEOPLE
WERE EXECUTED FOR WITCHCRAFT.
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66. NOW IT'S A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR
TOURISM INDUSTRY.
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67. MOLLY STEWARD,
I OWN MY OWN TOUR COMPANY.
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68. THE BUILDING BEHIND ME
IS A FORMER CHURCH
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69. THAT WAS CONVERTED INTO
THE SALEM WITCH MUSEUM.
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70. AND SINCE ITS OPENING,
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71. THIS HAS BEEN THE MOST
POPULAR TOURIST SPOT IN THE CITY OF SALEM.
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72. THIS GUY, BELIEVE ME,
MAKES MORE MONEY THAN GOD.
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73. IN FACT,
THE WHOLE TOWN IS BUILT
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74. ON A RATHER EMBARRASSING
LITTLE INCIDENT
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75. IN WHICH RELIGIOUS NUTS
THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA
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76. TO BURN A BUNCH
OF THEIR NEIGHBORS ALIVE.
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77. TURNS OUT IT WAS A KILLER
PUBLICITY STUNT,
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78. BUT IT MEANS YOU CAN'T OPEN
A RESTAURANT, LIKE THE LYCEUM,
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79. UNLESS YOU'VE GOT
THE SPIRIT OF A DEAD WITCH IN THE KITCHEN.
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80. HERE IN THE LYCEUM,
WE HAVE A HAUNTING
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81. BY A FAMOUS SPIRIT,
BRIDGETTE BISHOP,
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82. WHO WAS EXECUTED
AS A WITCH IN 1692 SALEM.
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83. EVEN THIS WAITRESS
AT THE LYCEUM
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84. HAD CONTACT WITH
THE SPIRIT OF BRIDGETTE.
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85. AND I SAW THIS WOMAN
STANDING, ALL IN WHITE PURITAN CLOTHING
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86. WITH A LITTLE BIT
OF A GLOW TO HER,
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87. STANDING RIGHT THERE
LOOKING RIGHT AT ME ON TOP OF THE STAIRS.
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88. AND SHE
DIDN'T TIP, EITHER.
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89. WELL, AIN'T THIS JUST
THE PERFECT SETTING
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90. FOR A SPIRIT BOARD SEANCE
BY A COVEN OF COMMERCIAL WITCHES?
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91. THEY MUST BE GENUINE.
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92. THEY BROUGHT THEIR
OFFICIAL WITCHY CANDLES
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93. AND GENUINE
BLACK BATHROBES.
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94. I, SANDRA MARIAH POWER,
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95. DO SUMMON, STIR,
AND CALL UP THE SPIRIT OF BRIDGETTE BISHOP.
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96. AND TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT
THE SPIRIT BOARD THEY'RE USING
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97. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT JUST
ANY SPIRIT BOARD.
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98. I BELIEVE THAT THE
OPERATOR IS LIKE A MUSICIAN,
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99. AND THE BOARD IS
LIKE THE INSTRUMENT.
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100. AND THEREFORE THE QUALITY
OF THE BOARD CAN ACTUALLY AFFECT THE OUTCOME,
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101. WHICH IS WHY I PREFER
TO USE CRYPTIQUE.
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102. CRYPTIQUE?
GREAT NAME.
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103. A PERFECT BLEND OF DEATH
AND THE MALL.
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104. WE JUST STARTED TALKING ABOUT
ALL THE DIFFERENT BOARDS
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105. AND KIND OF THOUGHT WE COULD
COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER.
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106. I WAS THE CONCEPT PERSON
WHO HELPED TO GET—
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107. GATHER THE IDEAS
FOR SYMBOLS AND SUCH
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108. THAT WOULD BE RELEVANT
TO THE PRODUCT.
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109. I BUILT THE WEBSITE,
WHICH HAS BEEN GREATLY SUCCESSFUL.
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110. IT WAS FEATURED
ON TELEVISION MANY TIMES.
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111. SO WE'RE GONNA GIVE
THE OUIJA BOARD A RUN FOR IT'S MONEY.
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112. OH, HOW CONVENIENT.
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113. THESE FOLKS JUST HAPPEN TO
BE SELLING THE SPIRIT BOARD THEY'RE GONNA TEST.
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114. IT'S SOLD
ON AMAZON AND TOYS 'R' US DOT-C0M.
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115. IT RECENTLY TOPPED OUT ONE
OF THE BIGGEST SELLING BOARD GAMES ON THEIR WEBSITE.
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116. AND SO WE TAKE THAT
AS A REALLY GOOD SIGN THAT IT'S PRETTY SUCCESSFUL.
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117. I HAD NO IDEA
YOU COULD PURCHASE WITCH SUPPLIES AT TOYS 'R' US.
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118. NO WONDER CHRISTIANS
ARE PISSED.
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119. CRUCIFIXES SHOULD BE
SOLD THERE, TOO.
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120. WE'RE TOLD ANYONE WHO
BUYS THIS SPIRIT BOARD
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121. CAN USE IT
TO CONTACT THE DEAD.
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122. THE BOARD SERVES
AS A CATALYST AND A TOOL.
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123. IT PUTS PEOPLE
IN THE RIGHT FRAME OF MIND TO MAKE CONTACT.
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124. YOU CAN USE A BOARD
AND HAVE NO TRAINING IS WHAT I'M TELLING YOU.
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125. I'VE NEVER HAD
SOMEONE SAY THEY COULDN'T GET IT TO WORK.
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126. AT LEAST
NOT TO HIS FACE.
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127. ARE YOU THE SPIRIT
OF BRIDGETTE BISHOP?
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128. YEA.
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129. BRIDGETTE, WERE YOU
HANGED ON GALLOWS HILL FOR WITCHCRAFT?
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130. YEA.
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131. HEY, HOW ABOUT THAT?
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132. THE CRYPTIQUE BOARD SEEMS
TO BE WORKING PERFECTLY.
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133. BRIDGETTE BISHOP,
ARE YOU STILL WITH US?
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134. IT'S BLANK.
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135. AND WHEN
IT DOESN'T WORK?
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136. IT'S CLOSE TO THE "YEA,"
THOUGH.
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137. BRIDGETTE'S EYESIGHT
AIN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE.
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138. COME THROUGH
CLEARER.
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139. YEA.
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140. GREAT!
YOU GET A SECOND CHANCE.
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141. BRIDGETTE, WERE YOU
HANGED ON GALLOWS HILL FOR WITCHCRAFT?
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142. YEA.
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143. I OBJECT.
YOU'RE LEADING THE WITNESS.
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144. MAN, HOW COULD THEY LEARN
SUCH PRIVATE DETAILS ABOUT BRIDGETTE'S LIFE?
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145. IT'S FREAKING ME OUT.
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146. HA HA. I SEE
I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE.
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147. IT WENT BETTER
THAN I EXPECTED.
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148. IT FELT THERE WAS A LOT
OF ENERGY OUT THERE.
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149. IT WAS VERY INTENSE.
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150. I BELIEVE THAT WE MADE CONTACT
WITH BRIDGETTE BISHOP.
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151. YOU CAN FEEL THEIR MEMORIES.
YOU CAN FEEL THEIR EMOTION.
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152. IT IS ONE OF THE MOST DRAINING
EXPERIENCES I HAVE HAD.
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153. IT IS SOMETHING I
WOULD NOT DO EVERY DAY.
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154. BUT I AM GLAD
THAT I TOOK PART IN IT.
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155. WE'RE SO GLAD
EVERYONE'S OK. THAT WAS INTENSE.
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156. DIVISION OF LABOR.
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157. I'LL DEBUNK OUIJA BOARDS,
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158. AND YOU GET THE CANDY
FROM THE LITTLE TYKE.
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159. WE ASKED IF WE
COULD MAKE THE BOARD A BIT MORE INTERESTING
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160. BY HAVING OUR WITCHES
PERFORM THEIR AMAZING FEAT WHILE WEARING BLINDFOLDS.
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161. THAT WOULD BE LIKE
ASKING A BLIND PERSON TO PAINT BOTTICELLI.
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162. SPIRITS THAT COME THROUGH
TO THE OUIJA BOARD
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163. NEED EVERYTHING OF WHAT
IS CALLED THE MEDIUM.
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164. THEY NEED THE ENERGY
OF THE HANDS, THE SIGHT OF THE EYES, THE HEARING.
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165. ALL OF THESE BODILY FUNCTIONS
ARE INTEGRAL.
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166. YOU HAVE TO USE
YOUR EYES BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE LETTERS.
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167. IF YOU WERE BLIND,
YOU WOULDN'T BE LOOKING AT LETTERS.
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168. YOU'D BE LOOKING AT
THE BRAILLE ALPHABET.
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169. BOTTICELLI,
BODILY FUNCTIONS, THE BRAILLE ALPHABET—
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170. YOU COULD JUST SAY NO.
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171. FORGET THE PROS.
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172. WE DECIDED TO GIVE
SPIRIT BOARDS A REAL TEST
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173. WITH SOME PEOPLE WHO HAD
NOTHING TO LOSE OR GAIN.
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174. WE HEADED WEST TO HISTORIC,
HAUNTED HOLLYWOOD.
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175. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE STANDING
IN FRONT OF THE HOLLYWOOD KNICKERBOCKER HOTEL,
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176. AND RIGHT HERE IS WHERE
THE ACTOR WILLIAM FRAWLEY DIED IN MARCH OF 1966.
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177. HE PLAYED FRED MERTZ
ON THE I LOVE LUCY SHOW.
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178. FRANK MANIS, PRESIDENT
OF THE GREATER HOLLYWOOD PARANORMAL SOCIETY.
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179. WILLIAM FRAWLEY LIVED HERE
AT THE KNICKERBOCKER,
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180. WENT OUT FOR ONE
OF HIS DAILY WALKS...
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181. AND, AS HE WAS COMING
BACK IN TO THE HOTEL,
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182. HAD SUFFERED
A MASSIVE HEART ATTACK
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183. AND DIED RIGHT OUT
ON THE FRONT STEPS.
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184. COULD THE GHOST
OF FRED MERTZ BE CONTACTED VIA SPIRIT BOARD?
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185. OUR 3 UNBIASED VOLUNTEERS—
C.J., ROBYN, AND NYREE— WERE READY TO FIND OUT.
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186. THE LAST TIME I DID IT
WAS WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER,
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187. AND A LOT OF
CREEPY THINGS HAPPENED.
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188. I JUST HOPE WE HAVE
SOME FUN HERE AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN BREAK THROUGH.
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189. OH, YEAH, BRING IT ON.
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190. THE SPIRIT BOARD WORKS
FOR ANYONE WHO TRIES IT.
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191. WE CHECKED.
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192. THE BOARD SERVES AS
A CATALYST AND A TOOL.
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193. IT PUTS PEOPLE
IN THE RIGHT FRAME OF MIND TO MAKE CONTACT.
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194. YOU CAN USE A BOARD
AND HAVE NO TRAINING IS WHAT I'M TELLING YOU.
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195. I'VE NEVER HAD SOMEONE
SAY THEY COULDN'T GET IT TO WORK.
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196. GREAT! LET'S GO!
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197. WE'D LIKE TO CONTACT
THE SPIRIT OF WILLIAM FRAWLEY.
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198. IS THERE SOMEBODY HERE?
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199. WE MAY HAVE TO GET
USED TO THE BOARD.
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200. ARE YOU HERE?
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201. YEA.
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202. OK. WHERE WOULD WE
KNOW YOU FROM?
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203. T...
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204. V.
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205. SWEET JUICY JESUS!
IT'S WORKING!
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206. AND UNLIKE THE SELLING
WITCHES OF SALEM,
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207. THESE 3 HAVE NOTHING
TO PROMOTE OR GAIN FROM THEIR SUCCESS.
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208. HOW CAN THEY BE
GETTING RESULTS?
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209. ORDINARILY WHEN YOU
MOVE A HAND,
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210. YOU'RE CONSCIOUSLY AWARE
THAT THOSE HANDS ARE MOVING.
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211. BUT WITH THE OUIJA BOARD,
YOU'RE NOT,
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212. AND THAT'S CALLED
AN IDIO-MOTOR RESPONSE.
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213. LOREN PANKRATZ,
PSYCHOLOGIST.
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214. IN AN IDIO-MOTOR RESPONSE,
THE AWARENESS IS BYPASSED,
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215. AND THE RESPONSE GOES
DIRECTLY TO THE MUSCLES.
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216. YOU JUST ARE CONVINCED
YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO MAKE THAT THING MOVE.
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217. SO IT IS VERY DECEPTIVE.
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218. I WAS SURPRISED
THAT WE GOT THE PLANCHETTE TO START MOVING SO QUICKLY.
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219. MOVEMENT WAS COMPLETELY
OUT OF MY HANDS, SO I JUST WENT WITH IT.
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220. EVERY TIME IT WOULD MOVE,
I WAS FREAKED.
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221. WHEN PEOPLE GET TOGETHER,
IT'S A VERY POWERFUL SITUATION OF EXPECTATION.
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222. THEN YOU SAY, "WELL,
THERE'S SOME OUTSIDE FORCE.
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223. THERE'S SOME
OUTSIDE SPIRIT."
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224. FRED MERTZ'S GHOST.
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225. HARD TO IMAGINE ANYTHING
SCARIER THAN THAT.
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226. WE THOUGHT WE'D CHECK
TO SEE IF THE SPIRIT BOARD
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227. WOULD WORK IF THESE
PARTICIPANTS COULDN'T SEE WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
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228. OH, AND ONE MORE THING...
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229. WITHOUT OUR VOLUNTEERS'
KNOWLEDGE,
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230. WE TURNED THE SPIRIT BOARD
180 DEGREES.
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231. AFTER ALL, THAT SHOULDN'T MATTER
TO THE SPIRIT OF FRED MERTZ.
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232. WAS HOLLYWOOD AT ITS HEIGHTS
WHEN YOU WERE ALIVE?
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233. YEA.
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234. YEA?
THERE'S NO "YEA" THERE.
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235. WOULD YOU STILL
LIKE TO BE ALIVE?
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236. NAY.
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237. WHOA! THEIR HANDS ARE
JUST GOING BACK TO THE SPOTS
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238. WHERE THEY THINK THE WORDS ARE.
WHAT A SURPRISE.
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239. WELL, WHAT HAPPENS
IS THAT THE INDIVIDUAL'S EXPECTATIONS
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240. CONTINUE TO OPERATE IF THEY
DON'T KNOW THAT BOARD HAS BEEN MOVED OR THE LETTERS REARRANGED.
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241. SO THE EXPECTATIONS
HAVE THE RESULT OF THE PERSON
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242. GOING RIGHT BACK
TO THOSE SAME LETTERS, THOSE SAME PATTERNS.
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243. YOU KNOW, THE HUMAN MIND
IS A WONDERFUL THING.
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244. THAT SAME TOOL THAT WAS USED
TO FIND A VACCINE AGAINST POLIO
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245. CAN BE FOOLED BY 50 CENTS WORTH
OF CARDBOARD AND PLASTIC.
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246. THAT'S WHAT KEEPS WITCHES
IN BUSINESS.
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247. AND THAT'S WHAT
SELLS OUIJA BOARDS.
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248. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BUCK.
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249. THEY LOVE US HERE BECAUSE WE
TURN THE BUCK FOR THEM,
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250. AND FOR OURSELVES SOMETIMES.
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251. WHEN EITHER OF US KICKS OFF,
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252. THE OTHER IS GONNA
DEVOTE HIS LIFE
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253. TO TRYING TO COMMUNICATE
WITH THE OTHER SIDE.
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254. THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY TO BE
MADE ON SUCH A PROPOSITION.
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255. WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER
FOR A LONG TIME,
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256. AND WE'VE DEVELOPED
A CODE WORD TO IDENTIFY OURSELVES TO EACH OTHER
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257. SO NO ONE CAN TRICK US.
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258. YOU REMEMBER THE CODE WORD,
DON'T YOU, TELLER?
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259. HAND ME THE PLANCHETTE,
WOULD YOU?
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260. IN THE LAST FEW DECADES,
THE BULLSHIT OF CONTACTING THE OTHER SIDE
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261. HAS RECEIVED A MAKEOVER.
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262. IT'S BEEN DRESSED UP
WITH A NEW COAT OF PAINT CALLED NEW AGE.
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263. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
THE TRENDIEST WAY TO ENTER THE SPIRIT WORLD—
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264. THE NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE.
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265. WHEN MY HEAD HIT THE CURB—
BOOM.
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266. I WAS OUT OF MY BODY,
SOUL SEPARATED...
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267. AND I WAS BEING SUCKED
INTO THIS BRILLIANT TUNNEL OF WARM, LOVING LIGHT.
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268. I WAS BATHED
IN THE LIGHT.
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269. IT WAS AN OVERWHELMING
SENSE OF A CLEANSING.
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270. I REALLY WAS NOT
IN THE HOSPITAL ANYMORE.
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271. AND I FOUND MYSELF
WAY OUT IN SPACE.
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272. I SAW EVERY SINGLE PERSON
THAT I HAD EVER HAD ANY CONTACT WITH.
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273. ONLY MY BODY WAS
IN THE HOSPITAL ROOM.
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274. I WAS OFF IN THE GARDEN
OF EDEN IN HEAVEN.
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275. STORIES LIKE THESE,
CALLED NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES, OR NDEs, HAVE BECOME CLICHE.
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276. PROPONENTS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH
CITE THESE ACCOUNTS
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277. AS PROOF OF WHATEVER THEIR
PARTICULAR MYTH BELIEVES.
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278. IT'S A POWERFUL IMAGE—
THE TUNNEL OF LIGHT
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279. THAT LEADS
TO THE OTHER SIDE.
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280. BUT THIS TUNNEL
IS A DEAD END.
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281. IT'S A WRAP.
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282. NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES ARE
GENERATED BY BRAIN FUNCTION,
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283. AND THEY DON'T PROVE
THERE'S AN AFTERLIFE.
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284. BARRY BEYERSTEIN,
PSYCHOLOGY PROFESSOR, SIMON FRASIER UNIVERSITY.
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285. NEUROSCIENTISTS ARE
THOROUGHLY CONVINCED THAT NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES
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286. ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN
WHEN NORMAL BRAIN FUNCTION IS DISRUPTED
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287. AND THE BRAIN
IS SHUTTING DOWN.
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288. WHEN BLOOD
FLOW IS CUT OFF,
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289. LACK OF OXYGEN SENDS
THE BRAIN INTO A KIND OF FINAL CURTAIN DEMENTIA,
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290. A MIND TRIP—
COURTESY, MOTHER NATURE.
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291. THESE ARE COMPLEX
HALLUCINATIONS
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292. THAT ARE TAKING PLACE
IN THE THEATER OF ONE'S OWN MIND.
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293. WE'RE DONE, RIGHT?
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294. WELL, NOT ACCORDING
TO THIS WOMAN.
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295. DAMN. WE WERE HEADING OUT
FOR DOUGHNUTS.
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296. I'M JAN PRICE,
AND I'VE BEEN TO THE OTHER SIDE OF DEATH.
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297. JAN PRICE IS
A BIG NAME IN THE WORLD OF NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES.
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298. AND THE BEST-SELLING AUTHOR
OF...
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299. THE OTHER SIDE OF DEATH.
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301. THANK YOU, TELLER.
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302. OH, I'M ALL RIGHT NOW.
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303. JAN'S N.D.E. BEGAN
WHEN SHE HAD A HEART ATTACK AND DIED.
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304. JUST LIKE THAT.
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305. SUDDENLY,
I'M ABOVE EVERYTHING,
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306. AND I'M LOOKING DOWN
AT MY BODY AND SAYING,
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307. GEE, I'M NOT
IN THERE ANYMORE.
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308. THAT MUST MEAN I'M DEAD.
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309. AND THEN
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310. SO I GUESS WE BLAME
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311. ALTHOUGH HER N.D.E. STORY
HAS THAT, BY NOW, FAMILIAR RING TO IT,
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312. JAN'S TRIP HAD
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313. HER HUSBAND SAYS
HE WITNESSED IT.
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314. AND I SAW HER
COME UP OUT OF HER BODY.
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315. I ALSO SAW
SOMETHING ELSE
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316. THAT I THOUGHT
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317. I SAW MAGGIE.
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318. MAGGIE
WAS THEIR DEAD DOG.
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319. THE PRICES SAY JAN MET UP
WITH HER DURING HER NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE.
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320. NOT ONLY THAT,
MAGGIE'S BEEN REINCARNATED AS THEIR CURRENT DOG.
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321. WHAT ARE THE CHANCES
OF THAT?
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322. IN REINCARNATION,
AREN'T YOU SUPPOSED TO ATTAIN A HIGHER LEVEL?
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323. POOR MAGGIE APPARENTLY
JUST CAN'T SEEM TO IMPROVE HERSELF.
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324. SHE'S BEEN WITH US
IN AT LEAST 3 BODIES THAT WE KNOW OF,
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325. AND THIS IS HER
MOST RECENT ONE.
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326. JUST CAN'T SEEM
TO STOP PEEING ON THE SOFA, HUH, MAGGIE?
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327. BAD DOG.
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328. BY THE WAY, JOHN PRICE
IS A SUCCESSFUL AUTHOR ON HIS OWN.
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329. LOTS OF STUFF ON ANGELS
AND SOMETHING ABOUT SUPERBEINGS.
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330. THEY'RE THE FAITH HILL
AND TIM McGRAW OF WACKVILLE.
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331. AND THEN THERE'S
THIS FUCKING GUY.
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332. I AM RAYMOND MOODY,
M.D., Ph.D., AND SEEKER OF THE TRUTH.
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333. JESUS CHRIST
ON A STICK!
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334. I GOT INTERESTED IN
NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES IN 1965.
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335. AND SO IN
THE LAST 37 YEARS,
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336. I HAVE SEEN THIS
GO FROM SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT KNOWN
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337. TO SOMETHING
THAT IS NOW ALMOST PART OF THE ETHOS
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338. OF OUR SOCIETY.
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339. AND HE'S
THE GUY RESPONSIBLE.
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340. RAYMOND MOODY IS
THE GRAND POOBAH OF NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES.
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341. SADLY, HE'S NEVER
HAD ONE HIMSELF.
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342. HIS BEST-SELLER,
LIFE AFTER LIFE, COINED THE PHRASE "NDE,"
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343. MADE IT A POP CULTURE
PHENOMENON
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344. AND GUARANTEED MOODY
AN INCOME FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE.
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345. SO, WHAT EVIDENCE DOES MOODY
HAVE THAT PROVES NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES ARE REAL?
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346. TO THE PEOPLE WHO GO
THROUGH THIS EXPERIENCE,
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347. IT'S ABSOLUTELY CONVINCING
THAT THEY SAW THE AFTERLIFE.
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348. IN THEIR MINDS,
THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
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349. THERE'S NO RATIONAL WAY
THAT WE CAN CONTRADICT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
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350. NO RATIONAL WAY
WE CAN CONTRADICT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING?
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351. HOW 'BOUT WE SHOW IT HAPPENING
IN CONTROLLED SITUATIONS?
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352. HOW 'BOUT WHERE THERE'S
NO CHANCE OF DEATH?
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353. IS THAT RATIONAL ENOUGH?
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354. WE'RE GOING TO.
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355. WE HATE TO SEEM
LIKE WE DON'T TRUST EVERY NUT WITH A STORY,
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356. BUT THERE'S MEDICAL EVIDENCE
WE CAN POINT TO
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357. AND DANCE WHILE SHOUTING
TAUNTING PHRASES
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358. AT "TRUTHSEEKERS"
LIKE RAYMOND.
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359. HERE WE GO.
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360. DURING CENTRIFUGE TESTS—
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361. WHEN PILOTS ARE SPUN AROUND
IN THIS CONTRAPTION
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362. GETTING THEIR GUTS
COMPACTED AT 9 Gs—
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363. THEIR BLOOD DRAINS
FROM THEIR HEADS TO THEIR LOWER EXTREMITIES.
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364. AS A RESULT, MANY BLACK OUT.
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365. GUESS WHAT THEY SAY HAPPENS
WHEN THEY'RE UNCONSCIOUS.
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366. OH, SHOOT. I FORGOT
WHAT I WAS DOING.
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367. MAN, I WAS DREAMING
AND EVERYTHING.
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368. WE INADVERTENTLY
WALKED INTO...
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369. THIS NEAR DEATH
EXPERIENCE ARENA
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370. WHILE WE WERE TRYING TO PROTECT
COMBAT FIGHTER PILOTS.
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371. I'M DR. JAMES E. WHINNERY,
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372. CHIEF AERO MEDICAL SCIENTIST,
NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER.
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373. IN THE 1980s AND '90s,
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374. DR. WHINNERY TORTURED
OVER 1,200 PILOTS IN THE CENTRIFUGE.
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375. HE KEPT CLOSE TRACK
OF THEIR REACTIONS.
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376. WHEN THEY CAME TO,
NEARLY 18% OF THEM
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377. DESCRIBED, WELL,
NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES.
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378. I WAS OUT.
AND WHAT I PICTURED
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379. WAS AGAIN VERY VIVID,
IN COLOR,
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380. OF LOOKING DOWN
AT THE GROUND FROM SEVERAL THOUSAND FOOT.
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381. Dr.
LOSS OF CONSCIOUSNESS WOULD OCCUR IN OUR PILOTS
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382. AS WE'RE DOING
ACCELERATION EXPERIMENTS.
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383. AND THEY FREQUENTLY
HAD GRAY OUT, TUNNEL VISION, BLACK OUT,
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384. AND DREAMS THAT WERE
ASSOCIATED WITH THAT LOSS OF CONSCIOUSNESS EPISODE.
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385. CURIOUS, DR. WHINNERY
PUT HIMSELF THROUGH THE CENTRIFUGE TEST.
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386. IN THIS FOOTAGE,
HE ALSO BLACKS OUT
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387. AND HE OFTEN EXPERIENCED
HIS OWN N.D.E.
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388. Dr. I'VE HAD
MAYBE 20 OR 30 OF THEM.
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389. THE ONE I REMEMBER MOST
WAS, UH,
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390. I WAS WALKING DOWN A HALL
TOWARD A DOORWAY THAT WAS LIT.
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391. BUT I WAS ALSO UP BEHIND MYSELF,
WALKING DOWN THE HALL.
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392. DAMN, THAT STORY
SOUNDS FAMILIAR.
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393. YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE A BRAIN
UNDER SEVERE STRESS—
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394. FROM CENTRIFUGE TESTING
OR FIGHTING FOR LIFE AT DEATH'S DOOR—
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395. GOES FROM REAL TRAUMA
TO PEACEFUL FANTASY.
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396. IT MAY WELL BE PART
OF HOW THE BRAIN HANDLES THAT THREATENING SITUATION.
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397. SO NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES
HAVE A REAL LIFE EXPLANATION.
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398. CUT OFF THE BLOOD
TO THE BRAIN AND NEARLY 18% OF US HAVE AN N.D.E.
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399. KIND OF MAKES
THE THOUGHT OF DYING,
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400. OR BETTER YET,
PULLING 9 Gs, WELL, KIND OF EXCITING.
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401. WHAT DOES THE GURU
OF NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES HAVE TO SAY NOW?
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402. WATCH DR. MOODY TRY TO
SLIP OUT OF THIS ONE.
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403. IN A FIELD
LIKE THE PARANORMAL
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404. WHERE THE PROBLEMS
ARE CONCEPTUAL AND NOT YET SCIENTIFIC,
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405. YOU MAKE A TREMENDOUS
MISTAKE IN DECIDING
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406. THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE
EITHER A BELIEVER OR A DISBELIEVER.
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407. AND REALLY, THE BELIEVERS
AND THE DISBELIEVERS,
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408. IN MY OPINION,
ARE THE SAME GROUP.
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409. NO, THEY'RE NOT!
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410. THE BELIEVERS ARE EITHER
PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD CONFUSING EXPERIENCES,
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411. OR FOLKS OUT
TO MAKE A BUCK.
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412. THE DISBELIEVERS
ARE SCIENTISTS OR PROFESSORS,
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413. LIKE THIS MAN.
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414. EVERY NIGHT,
I TALK TO DEAD PEOPLE,
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415. AND I FLY THROUGH SPACE.
AND I CALL IT DREAMING.
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416. CHRISTOF KOCH, PROFESSOR OF
COGNITIVE AND BEHAVIORAL BIOLOGY AT CAL TECH.
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417. AND IN DREAMS, EVERY NIGHT,
WE ALL GO TO SLEEP.
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418. AND VERY OFTEN,
I WILL MEET AND TALK WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE DEAD.
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419. I WILL FLY THROUGH SPACE.
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420. I WILL DO THINGS THAT I
COULD NEVER DO IN REAL LIFE.
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421. NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES,
THEY'RE JUST ANOTHER FORM OF VERY VIVID DREAMS.
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422. THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
WHO HAVE NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES
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423. IS GOING UP DRAMATICALLY
AS MEDICAL TECHNOLOGY WILL GET BETTER.
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424. IN FACT, I PREDICT
THAT OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS,
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425. WE'LL HAVE MORE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE THESE EXPERIENCES
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426. BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING
BETTER AND BETTER
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427. AT PULLING PEOPLE BACK
FROM THE BRINK OF DEATH.
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428. AND WHAT ABOUT
THOSE COMPELLING STORIES WE HEARD EARLIER?
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429. WHAT DO THOSE PEOPLE
THINK OF THE SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION?
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430. FIRST OFF,
I DON'T GET ANGRY,
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431. BECAUSE I WOULD'VE BEEN
A SKEPTIC BEFORE IT HAPPENED TO ME, ALSO.
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432. I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE
NOT BELIEVING ME BECAUSE IT HASN'T HAPPENED TO THEM.
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433. WE WELCOME PEOPLE WHO
ARE SKEPTICAL AND PEOPLE WHO JUST SEEK INFORMATION.
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434. AND IT'S OK FOR
THE OTHER PEOPLE TO BE SKEPTICAL.
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435. IT'S ALL RIGHT FOR THEM.
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436. IN THEIR OWN TIME,
THEY MAY LEARN WHAT WE KNOW.
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437. ALL I CAN TELL YOU
IS ABOUT MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES,
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438. BECAUSE I'M NOT
A SCIENTIST, I'M A HAIRDRESSER.
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439. I CAN MAKE YOU
LOOK GOOD,
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440. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW
TO GIVE YOU ANSWERS.
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441. OK, WHATEVER THESE FOLKS
BELIEVE HAPPENED TO THEM,
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442. AT LEAST THEY'RE NOT
OUT FOR A BUCK.
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443. THAT'S MORE THAN WE CAN SAY
ABOUT SOME OTHER PEOPLE.
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444. I'M JAN PRICE, AND I'VE BEEN
TO THE OTHER SIDE OF DEATH.
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445. WE ARE OUR BRAINS.
THEY ARE US.
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446. SO WHEN OUR BRAINS TELL US
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447. THAT THE TIME WE SPENT
IN THE DENTIST CHAIR RECEIVING ORAL SURGERY
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448. WAS LONGER THAN THE TIME WE
SPENT IN THE LA-Z-BOY CHAIR RECEIVING ORAL SEX,
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449. IT'S EASY TO SEE THAT
AS REALITY.
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450. BUT WE'VE LEARNED TO TRUST
OUR WATCHES AND NOT "OUR EXPERIENCES."
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451. WE ALL DREAM, SO WHEN YOU WAKE
UP, YOU DON'T TELL YOUR FRIENDS
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452. ABOUT YOUR NIGHT
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453. OK, SO YOU DO.
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454. BUT YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT
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455. NO MATTER HOW REAL
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456. IS THE JUMP THAT GREAT
FROM DREAMS TO NDEs?
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457. WHY WOULDN'T OUR BRAINS
FREAK OUT A LITTLE WHEN INJURED OR DYING?
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458. WHY IS THAT SO HARD
TO UNDERSTAND FOR THESE PEOPLE?
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459. IT'S THAT UGLY BASTARD DEATH.
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460. THE IDEA THAT THERE'S
SOMETHING ELSE, EVEN IF IT'S ONLY A LITTLE LIGHT,
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461. MAY MAKE YOU FEEL
A LITTLE BETTER WHILE YOUR BRAIN LOSES BLOOD,
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462. BUT IT TAKES AWAY
THE BEAUTY OF LIFE.
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463. WE DIE.
IT'S AS EASY AS THAT.
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464. SO LET'S MAKE THE BEST
OF WHAT WE GOT WHILE WE GOT IT.
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465. HAVE A BLAST AND HELP OTHERS
HAVE A BLAST.
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466. BEHAVE WITH HONESTY
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467. YOU, ME, US, MAGGIE THE DOG,
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468. NONE OF US GETS A SECOND CHANCE
TO NOT PEE ON THE SOFA.
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469. SO, YEAH, THAT'S OUR MESSAGE.
DON'T PEE ON THE SOFA.
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470. CAPTIONED BY THE NATIONAL
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