Norm Macdonald Live 3x4

1. - Wait a minute.

2. These are great jokes by the way, Steve, congrats.

3. - Oh good.

4. - As always.

5. But I got to tell you, I'm a little nervous

6. because I haven't seen hide nor hair

7. of Adam Eget, my trusty sidekick.

8. The man who always sits right there.

9. He's not here.

10. Now last night, we're here at the MGM,

11. so we're down on the floor trying to court lady luck

12. and Adam Eget is playing black jack

13. and saying highly racist things to the dealer

14. but just, I mean I don't know much about black jack

15. but he would hit 19 against a six,

16. which I feel is not in the book.

17. I don't think that's how.

18. Oh this is a good one.

19. But anyways, I hope he's okay.

20. I haven't seen him since last evening.

21. But hopefully he'll be here soon

22. and I won't have to be nervous anymore.

23. What was that sound?

24. It sounded like Adam Eget falling to his death.

25. Huh, oh well.

26. I don't like the idea of doing this show myself, though.

27. Oh, Adam.

28. We were just talking about you.

29. - Oh my god, what a day.

30. - What is with all the towels?

31. - You're not gonna believe this.

32. - Yeah?

33. - I fell off the roof.

34. I jumped, I'll be honest.

35. - You jumped? - I'll be honest.

36. I jumped.

37. But luck would have it,

38. first luck I've had in two days by the way,

39. a truck of pool towels caught my fall.

40. Look at all these free towels.

41. Can you believe it?

42. - Yeah.

43. - Feel that, it's soft.

44. - That is nice.

45. So that's what caught your fall?

46. - Yeah.

47. - Broke your fall?

48. - Yeah broke my fall.

49. - Oh you said caught your fall.

50. - I broke the bank, well.

51. - You broke the bank?

52. - They broke me.

53. - Did you say you broke the bank?

54. - No this broke my fall.

55. I'm broke.

56. - No you said you broke the bank.

57. - Didn't work out.

58. It was the opposite of that.

59. You were at that goddamn table.

60. - Yeah.

61. - The lady she...

62. - That's not what you were calling her last night.

63. - Well look, she took all my money.

64. - I know but where a person's born doesn't matter.

65. - Well no.

66. - I've been trying to teach you that for so long

67. and by the way, we have an African American

68. today on the show.

69. - We do?

70. - Yeah so none of that talk.

71. If you want to say the word you love saying,

72. instead say the N word

73. and everyone will know what you mean

74. and it will be alright.

75. It's, oh by the way it's Mike Tyson.

76. Iron Mike Tyson.

77. - I love Iron Mike Tyson.

78. - It's gonna be great.

79. - I'm beyond excited.

80. - So how much did you lose?

81. - $40.00.

82. - $40.00?

83. That's double your net worth.

84. - Yeah tell me about it.

85. - God you should go down to Fremont street

86. and give guys suck jobs.

87. One dollar a man.

88. You'll have that money back in no time.

89. - I'll think about it.

90. - Alright.

91. Do you want to talk to the camera?

92. That's you're favorite part.

93. - Not particularly.

94. - Yes it is.

95. Come on.

96. - We'll be back with Iron Mike Tyson.

97. - Right?

98. - As well.

99. - I don't care.

100. - Tonight for the full hour, Iron Mike Tyson.

101. - Fucking hour man, fucking hour?

102. - No it's not an hour.

103. But a full half hour.

104. - Oh okay.

105. - Michael Gerald Tyson, born in Brooklyn, New York

106. raised by his mother, Lorna May.

107. You tell me if anythings wrong here.

108. From 87 to 90, undisputed World Heavyweight Champion.

109. - Wrong, that's wrong.

110. Well yeah probably from 87 to 90

111. but I was really undisputed fucking 86.

112. - 86.

113. - Keep going.

114. Hey continue reading.

115. - You want to keep hearing shit?

116. Alright.

117. WBC title in November of 86

118. at the tender age of 20 becoming

119. the youngest heavyweight champion.

120. - Dumb motherfucker, believe it.

121. - Of all time.

122. Soon after he claimed the WBA crown

123. from James Bone Crusher Smith.

124. - That was the complicated match.

125. - It was?

126. - I won, go ahead.

127. - Then beat Tony Tucker for the IBF championship.

128. Brutal victories against the likes

129. of Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tubbs, Larry Homes,

130. Tyrell Biggs and Michael Spinks,

131. confirmed his status as the best in the world.

132. I love the Larry Homes one.

133. You crushed him.

134. There was a little.

135. I don't know if you want to get into why you beat

136. him up so bad.

137. - Cause when I was like a little kid, probably 1980

138. I'm what 14?

139. - Yeah.

140. - So Cus and Mohammad Ali,

141. they're very close friends

142. so they would call each other.

143. So they would call each other before the fight

144. and so after the fight I went with,

145. I went with,

146. I went with Cus to go to the fight

147. and he really is still the number one Ali.

148. - So you've never seen, you've never seen Ali fight before?

149. - No never in my life

150. and I'm thinking this old man gonna do something.

151. He's a miracle.

152. The whole world coming, he's gonna do it,

153. he's gonna do it four times

154. and he's getting pummeled

155. and Cus is so mad.

156. We get in that car,

157. that whatever Volkswagen, we get in that car,

158. we get in there and we go from Albany

159. to Caster 30 miles south from Albany

160. and there's not a word said, holy,

161. and then the next day.

162. - Your hero.

163. - Yeah the next morning.

164. Yeah the next morning, he called, Cousin Ed,

165. talking and I'm mad.

166. Cus said, "Well you let that bum.

167. He's a bum"

168. and Cus is screaming and then he put him on the phone.

169. I just cried.

170. Oh god.

171. I said, I'm gonna get him for you when I get big.

172. You watch and I got him.

173. - Yeah you tortured him.

174. - Kept your word.

175. - Was that the fight Ali was like sick?

176. I remember the one that Don King.

177. - No that was the one with Trevor Berbick.

178. - Berbick. - I got him too.

179. - Yeah and you took him out too.

180. - Yeah but.

181. - Now was Ali at these fights?

182. - Yes he told me and then he came in,

183. he said, "Kick his ass for me."

184. - Yeah baby.

185. That's awesome.

186. I remember seeing you, Ali, and Sugar Ray

187. on Arsenio.

188. - That's good stuff.

189. - That's good.

190. That's the paleolithic diet.

191. - Yeah.

192. - On the Arsenio Hall Show,

193. you remember that, that was a great show.

194. - Yeah a long time ago.

195. - You, Sugar Ray Leonard and,

196. how do you feel now that you started out,

197. what do you think of this MMA?

198. Is that considered like just not cool for you

199. cause you're a master?

200. - Why is it not cool?

201. It's really cool. - You think it's cool?

202. - Cause all the fighting.

203. - You think it matches boxing?

204. - It has its own, it has its own criteria.

205. When you look at it from an individual

206. entertainment sport. - Sure.

207. - But if you get into a fight in the street,

208. everybody's objective, even the boxer,

209. is to get the guy on the ground.

210. - Yeah yeah yeah.

211. - When they.

212. - It seems to me then you,

213. if you were starting right now might go to MMA.

214. - No I couldn't, know why?

215. - No.

216. - I thought that too.

217. I was like man, I wish I did this,

218. this would of been different

219. and then I say Royce Gracie step somebody foot.

220. I said if anybody step on my foot,

221. I've got the worst foot in the foot,

222. if anybody steps on my feet,

223. my toes will blow up.

224. My feet are so horrible.

225. Oh they're dis, I'd have to tap out right away.

226. - Oh shit.

227. - If you tap him.

228. Oh man you kick on my feet, you spit on my feet,

229. I'll die.

230. - That's your Achilles heel is your foot.

231. - Whoa.

232. Whoa, you seen them you would know why.

233. - Really, god damn.

234. - Look like the toes blew up.

235. - So if I was to fight you right now,

236. my best strategy would be to kick you in the foot?

237. - Step on my foot.

238. - Step on your fucking foot.

239. - Oh man. - You might go down.

240. - I would beg.

241. I would suck your dick.

242. I would plead—

243. - You would suck my dick?

244. - Yeah don't fucking step on mother fucking feet.

245. Don't step on my feet, you stupid mother fucker!

246. - Oh man.

247. You'd be yelling that while you were sucking my dick?

248. - It be somewhere in the negotiation part.

249. You know?

250. - If only Mitch Green knew that at the time.

251. - He didn't know that.

252. - Now we say last night the show,

253. which is incredible, your one man show.

254. - Yeah. - I remember Mitch Green

255. and maybe I'm remembering it wrong.

256. I thought it was outside, on a car or something

257. like that.

258. - Yeah on the actual street.

259. - It wasn't on the street, it wasn't on the street

260. but it lead, it started inside

261. and then when I walked out

262. he came outside and that's when I hit him

263. and then that's when we were fighting and stuff

264. and you know it just got ugly.

265. - And it sounded in the one man show

266. that you had some respect for him though.

267. That you liked him.

268. - Mitch wasn't a bad guy

269. but when he was on that angel dust,

270. something else took over.

271. - He did angel dust?

272. - Yeah that's why he wasn't going down.

273. But he did go down cause I was stomping

274. on him a little bit.

275. - But he got into the WWE shit.

276. - Yeah but it took a long time to get him down

277. with the punches.

278. Yeah you're right to kick the fucker.

279. - It's dangerous to stomp on a guy

280. for you cause they could get your foot.

281. - No, well listen.

282. - Then you have to suck his dick.

283. - He got the bottom of my foot.

284. He didn't get the top of my foot,

285. he got that bottom.

286. No, I will never suck Mitch Green's dick.

287. - No fuck that shit.

288. Man this guy would.

289. This guy used to jerk off punks

290. under the Queensboro Bridge, $15.00 a man.

291. - I've robbed a couple of punks under there.

292. - Oh you did?

293. - Yeah.

294. - I thought you looked familiar.

295. - It's okay.

296. - You were in the stir,

297. you said in your show 70 times.

298. - Arrested.

299. - In the hoosegow. - Arrested.

300. - Oh you were arrested 70 times but not in prison.

301. - Arrested. - Yeah yeah.

302. - You know when they lock you up

303. and put the handcuffs and you go to the precinct.

304. Your moms come and take you home.

305. - But you were saying last night that sometimes

306. you get three squares that way.

307. - Yeah.

308. - So it wasn't so.

309. - Not too bad. - It wasn't so bad.

310. - Ice cream, cookies and ice cream at night.

311. - Oh that's good. - You get an ice cream.

312. - Yeah yeah.

313. - Really?

314. - Where you from, where you from?

315. - Oh Los Angeles.

316. - They got a big juvenile facilitates there.

317. All the juveniles are really losing their minds out there.

318. - Really?

319. - Yeah.

320. - Oh I didn't know about that.

321. - The youth detention center in Los Angeles.

322. - No I got sent away to something

323. but it wasn't like that.

324. - No you went to a cult.

325. - Yeah so there were a lot of people

326. were there on cult court order.

327. Yeah.

328. - Cult?

329. - Cult court order?

330. - Yeah it was like a fucked up.

331. Yeah I don't know.

332. They didn't want to work.

333. - Hey listen, one day I was at,

334. remember when I got arrested

335. and seeing how we discussed on this show.

336. - I remember that.

337. - And so I had to go to out,

338. out of program, where you go half of the day

339. and then you're out half of the day

340. and so I would go to this program

341. and it was this young blonde chick

342. and I'm looking at her and she's dressed pretty.

343. She usually don't dress well

344. but you know it's typical jeans and dirty sneakers

345. and stuff.

346. Not a, little plump but nice, you know.

347. It's a pleasant girl, all American, Tommy Hilfiger girl

348. and we're discussing and stuff

349. and I'm talking to the Counselor

350. and I get in the room and I'm like confessing,

351. you know the girl Sally May or whatever,

352. "oh nice, nice, she's very attractive right?"

353. I said, Yeah I think she's a very nice.

354. He said, "Why, you want to dominate her, don't you?"

355. The counselors telling.

356. I said, Wait where's this coming at?

357. He said, "Yeah, you want to dominate her don't you?

358. Alright that's okay.

359. I think I'll introduce you to her.

360. You know what I mean?

361. She comes from a very elite,

362. she's a member of a cult that looking for her right now.

363. She's in hiding and"

364. - Oh shit.

365. And I'm like, what?

366. You would never think

367. and then the next thing he has her

368. do her dissertation and she's talking about her life

369. and she's telling about this thing and the people having sex

370. and I'm like whoa.

371. - In the cult, in the cult?

372. - Yeah and then these,

373. I know he said it just so I could figure out

374. what I'm getting myself into.

375. So everything what looks good

376. is not necessarily good

377. because I thought that was a really nice score

378. and then when this guy started telling me this stuff

379. and he had her do her little dissertation

380. about who she is and where she came from

381. and I'm like, holy shit.

382. - Dick wasn't hard after that?

383. - Not at all.

384. Some, yo listen, well people call me crazy,

385. Man I think I'm pretty sane.

386. - You do?

387. - Yeah I think some serious stuff, man.

388. - Well you know.

389. There's a lot of stuff.

390. Quotes from you that I kind of agree with.

391. Like remember when you said

392. like why can't I get a blow job.

393. I'm a rich 40 million dollar.

394. - You remember that shit?

395. - I agreed with that.

396. I said, like why not, why couldn't he?

397. - I agree too but you know what I realized back then?

398. This is what I didn't realize

399. and I'm more astute now because I realize

400. I was dealing with a mental illness.

401. - You were?

402. - It appeared to be.

403. A doctor told. - did that mental illness.

404. - A doctor told me that. - Did that mental illness

405. help you in the ring?

406. - That's a possibility.

407. I don't know.

408. - You seem to have a lot of forgiveness when I see you

409. cause I watched your trial, the Desiree Washington

410. and I thought you were innocent.

411. I thought you were not guilty.

412. I thought you were taken out of boxing,

413. the same as Ali, for five years

414. or six years, whatever it was, in your prime

415. and you had those years stolen from you

416. on an obvious case of non rape.

417. - I like that, I like that.

418. That sounds good.

419. - But you seem to have forgiveness in your heart

420. though for that whole incident.

421. - No.

422. - Is that true or not?

423. - I appear to have forgiveness, yeah.

424. It appears to be that way.

425. - Is that god?

426. - Common sense.

427. - Common sense?

428. - If I'm bitter, the only ones who gonna suffer is me.

429. I mean I'm that kind of guy.

430. I'm that guy, I'm the guy to take the medicine,

431. I mean take the poison away from you to die.

432. I'm that guy.

433. I'm just an idiot like that, so I guess.

434. - Well you are. - That's commendable.

435. - So you are bitter?

436. - No I'm not bitter.

437. - I can be bitter.

438. - You said you take the poison.

439. - I'm that kind of guy.

440. - That you could do that?

441. - Yeah very easily.

442. - But there's no god involved in helping you.

443. - No.

444. - What is your—

445. - God don't care about us.

446. - He doesn't?

447. - No god don't care about us.

448. God doesn't need us, we need god.

449. - True.

450. - Isn't that? - That's true.

451. - Isn't that the paragraph, really how it goes?

452. - I like that, yeah.

453. - He don't need us.

454. I'm gonna pray for good.

455. God loves it, come on god,

456. make sure I knock this guy out.

457. It doesn't go like that.

458. So.

459. - Right you just envision these guys

460. as sleeping with your wife

461. and then you pummel them.

462. - My first wife.

463. - Right. - yeah.

464. - Are you black muslim still?

465. - I'm not black muslim, I'm muslim.

466. - Oh you're not, you're a muslim.

467. - A muslim that happens to be black.

468. - No no but there is a difference.

469. - No.

470. - Well I mean the Elijah Mohammad.

471. That's one.

472. - That's a different sect, no I'm not a member of that sect.

473. - You're a, you're just muslim.

474. - Yeah I guess so.

475. - Okay, I mean are you practicing?

476. Do you pray to Allah everyday?

477. - Every damn day.

478. - Oh good man.

479. - Yeah.

480. - You can't get nobodies here,

481. only people who are godly touched come to you, Norm.

482. - That is true.

483. - Only people who are touched by god

484. come to this program?

485. - No. - Oh I misunderstand.

486. - Godly touched.

487. - Godly touched.

488. I like that too.

489. Did you make that up?

490. - No, I don't know.

491. - Did you ever think of ever being a preacher?

492. - No my father was a preacher, my uncle

493. was a preacher, my grandfather was a preacher,

494. my great great grandfather was a preacher.

495. I come on the side, I come from a whole line of preachers,

496. deacons, black church, yelling, yeah.

497. - I didn't know that but you know just watching you

498. I always thought you'd be a great preacher.

499. - Yeah that's what I come from.

500. - You have your story.

501. - That's my bloodline.

502. - Of salvation and redemption.

503. - You think I wasn't coming back, yeah.

504. They thought they were done with me.

505. They thought god wouldn't help me come back, yeah.

506. But I'm here, yeah

507. and you're never gonna see me go again, yeah

508. and I'm here for good, yeah

509. and the good lord gonna make sure.

510. I'm gonna get, revenge, revenge is god.

511. No.

512. - Amen, give him an amen.

513. - Amen.

514. - God damn, that was good.

515. - Just joking, I love you.

516. - Yeah yeah.

517. - Kirk Patrick, I'm saying.

518. - Oh there you go, Kirk Patrick.

519. - Yeah my and the are really,

520. the bible belt.

521. - Yeah yeah yeah.

522. - Are you on currently on good times with Don King

523. cause I heard some fallout. - Good times?

524. - Good terms.

525. - I'm on good times, good terms with everybody.

526. I don't have no beef with no one.

527. - That's what I said.

528. You're a man of forgiveness.

529. - So how many times do you think you've forgiven him?

530. Cause I heard.

531. - Listen, if I can't forgive people

532. then people shouldn't be able to forgive me.

533. - That's a good way to live your life.

534. - Yeah that's how I look at it.

535. - God damn.

536. - What about this idea?

537. - Tell me.

538. - This is what I'd watch, senior boxing.

539. You have to be 50.

540. - How old are you sir?

541. - 50.

542. - It'd be perfect.

543. So here you are, it's you.

544. - I don't want to do that shit no more.

545. - But do you think you could?

546. - No fucking way.

547. - You couldn't do it?

548. - No.

549. - You couldn't beat up another 50 year old?

550. - No, Norman.

551. - You'd lose?

552. - Yeah.

553. - Now you do ever, you've never had

554. a gambling problem that I've heard of.

555. - Life on life, I gamble on life a lot.

556. - You gamble on life?

557. - Yeah.

558. - What does that mean.

559. - Oh man.

560. - That I'm a life gambler baby!

561. - But what does that mean?

562. When was the last time you gambled on life like?

563. - I don't know, doing the show.

564. - This show, something.

565. - Everything, just going for it.

566. You just wouldn't expect,

567. now I'm being truly serious, I'm not being

568. goofy now. - Sure.

569. - You would never think for a guy,

570. like was explaining in my show,

571. where I was before I was in demand,

572. I was a big time guy, super arrogant,

573. megalomania,

574. and just seeing me doing this,

575. it's a total different spectrum

576. of my whole existence, my whole barometer

577. that I'm just smiling at people.

578. - Yeah yeah.

579. What about the history of,

580. I know you're a historian of boxing.

581. Did you relate to the tough guy,

582. did you relate to Sonny Liston?

583. - Yeah I, like one day, the whole image

584. like the whole image, the form

585. and the tough mean guy

586. because I was, from the history of that,

587. it's the whole history of that,

588. that scary guy, the Jeffery, the John I Sullivan,

589. those kind of guys formed the big—

590. - John, I didn't John L Sullivan was a tough guy.

591. - Yeah he was a scary guy too.

592. Yeah all these scary,

593. well if you go into a place and say I could—

594. - The first champion of the world, John I Sullivan.

595. - You go into a bar and say I could lick

596. any son of a bitch in the house, that's a tough guy.

597. Okay that's a guy looking for trouble.

598. - That's what John I Sullivan said?

599. - That's what he would do.

600. - Son of a gun.

601. - That whole, that whole scenario the tough guy,

602. the reason why I took on that scenario

603. that I realized that the psychology

604. of the percentages of losing was low.

605. Those guys percentages, cause mostly when those guys lost

606. it was their first loss.

607. - That's true.

608. - When those guys lost in the middle of their career,

609. it wasn't in their career, it was their first loss.

610. - Right. - Exactly like you.

611. - Yeah very few, very few of those guys

612. their opponents are lost before because of that aura,

613. they lost before the fight even started

614. and I said this is the way to win.

615. The percentage of loss is so low

616. and the percentage of win is so high.

617. - So you go into the ring and you staring at the guy

618. and you know you're gonna beat him and he knows you know

619. he knows he knows you're gonna beat him.

620. Is that the idea?

621. - Yeah you know what I've learned about human beings

622. that we are pretty much timid people

623. and god fearing and we are intimidated.

624. By being intimated we turn that into fear, to fire

625. and sometimes their fear,

626. there was like their fear turns into victory.

627. So that's something, that's the only,

628. that's the only downside of the big intimidating monster.

629. It's like David you're so scared, you kill the guy.

630. You're so scared of the guy you kick his ass.

631. - Did you ever worry that you might kill a man in the ring?

632. - No I was always worried that someone might kill me.

633. - Really?

634. - Yeah.

635. - Did you, when you were going,

636. when you just go at a guy in 30 seconds and take him out

637. was your intent to kill him?

638. - No my intent was just to make sure

639. he didn't get up in 10 seconds when the count was over.

640. No I never wanted to really hurt a guy.

641. During the process, yes.

642. - Did you ever hurt a guy for life?

643. - I don't know.

644. - It's hard to know, isn't it?

645. - I didn't stay on that long with to find out.

646. - But you were, you were never hit.

647. - Yeah you can't hit people and not get hit.

648. That's the whole purpose of fighting,

649. you learn to get hit back if you hit somebody.

650. - What about the strength of your neck?

651. I always thought. - what about it?

652. - Cause I thought that was what kept your head.

653. - No way.

654. - Yeah no?

655. - No.

656. - No the necks not an important part?

657. - That's all physical but you have to have spirit.

658. - No I understand.

659. - You could be the biggest strongest guy in the world,

660. get hit, boom, you don't have no spirit,

661. no determination, you're gonna die.

662. You're gonna lay down.

663. - Plus the neck.

664. - You got to be competitive.

665. No.

666. There's guys with broken,

667. you see the guys like Gracie, you see guys like Ali.

668. In their prime, these guys,

669. I saw them him fight this guy named,

670. what was his name?

671. What his name, Hughes something.

672. Matt Hughes.

673. - Oh Royce Gracie against?

674. - Matt Hughes and I saw Matt Hughes grab his arm

675. and put it all the way in the back, just ripped it,

676. he didn't tap out.

677. - Jesus.

678. - He had to beat him unconscious.

679. Like, some of those guys that's just the mentality.

680. You got to kill him.

681. You got to kill him.

682. Ali's the same way.

683. If you don't stop the fight guy,

684. the guy gotta kill him, he won't quit.

685. He won't quit.

686. - That's what I just said.

687. - They won't quit.

688. - Do you know the fighter George Chuvalo?

689. - Very well, yeah.

690. Just saw him last week.

691. - You did?

692. Hell of a man.

693. Never went down.

694. Never went down.

695. - No forget that.

696. That's nothing

697. - But he went through.

698. - You know his life?

699. - Yes.

700. His children died of heroin.

701. - Georgie in the air, man, man man.

702. - But he told me that, you know what goes—

703. - I don't know if I take that.

704. - On a boxer a lot is the kidneys

705. because they get in the clinch

706. and the guy, you know, give you 100 kidney punches

707. but yeah he's a.

708. - I think boxing helped me.

709. I think I was talking.

710. You know I think I was really more pugnacious

711. before I started really boxing.

712. I think with the punches I got

713. I think some kind of way it straightened me out.

714. I don't have the super super duper lisp.

715. - Yeah, oh no you don't.

716. Did you used to have a bigger lisp, I don't remember?

717. - Whoa, yeah.

718. - I can understand everything you say.

719. - It was like, it was like the T R and the S,

720. like shrimp and shrimp and shit and,

721. you know the sh sh.

722. Sh.

723. - Shit cock fuck.

724. - Strawberry.

725. Shrimp.

726. - Strawberry?

727. That's like Captain Queeg

728. but we got to come right back with more

729. and then we're gonna talk about.

730. the great Mike Tyson and his new project on TV,

731. Mike Tyson Mysteries.

732. - You can be goofy on a white show.

733. Say crazy things on a white shows

734. you can't say on black ones.

735. - Especially this one.

736. - Back with the one Mike Tyson.

737. The only Mike Tyson. - Bullshit.

738. - Now Mike, now you're doing a television program,

739. a cartoon, called Mike Tyson's Mysteries.

740. Tell the folks about that.

741. Right into that camera right there.

742. - Well Mike Tyson's Mystery, I don't know.

743. - How did it come about?

744. - Hey.

745. Some white people, I believe, were executives at first

746. who appeared to be detectives when they appeared

747. to my door said that.

748. - So at first you thought they were detectives?

749. - Yes and I didn't see them

750. but my wife let them in.

751. So now they in the house.

752. - So you see white people, you just assume

753. no those are some detectives?

754. - Well I seen white people that look like them.

755. I thought they were like some kind of creepy detectives.

756. - The real like Mike Tyson Mystery.

757. - I know these people and they do look

758. like detectives, these guys.

759. - And so.

760. - They came into your house.

761. - Yeah so I don't know what the hells going on

762. so they explain that

763. they want to do a cartoon.

764. I said well I'm not interested because

765. and I started sitting down talking

766. and he said, "Well I didn't really think this

767. would work either"

768. the guy told me I didn't really think would work either.

769. - Yeah this is Hugh Davidson, the creator.

770. - So why are you here?

771. So I guess they went back.

772. I don't know they went back to.

773. - Hollywood.

774. Yeah the executives.

775. - They did some writing and they,

776. he showed me stuff, I said whoa, that's pretty cool.

777. I thought they were gonna show me the stuff

778. that you do like this, you know you go like this.

779. You know the first like um.

780. - Oh yeah.

781. - Edison stuff like this.

782. I thought it was gonna be like that

783. and then I saw, I said wow this awesome.

784. I saw it move and I was moving and talking,

785. I said yeah I want to do this

786. and so um, I expedite my attitude

787. and for it and I was all in for it.

788. It was successful.

789. - I play the pigeon on it.

790. - Your prefect our pigeon, you're very perfect.

791. - What I like about it is he does it real fast.

792. He doesn't do 100 takes, Mike, I mean Hugh.

793. No just Hugh.

794. He gets through it, you know

795. and but it must be cool to see yourself as a cartoon.

796. - Hey it's just awesome to see myself in a good cartoon.

797. Right?

798. - Yes.

799. - I think it was a window washer.

800. - It's a window washer, Mike.

801. Fucking scare the shit out of him.

802. - You thought it was some—

803. - Hey go to the window.

804. - I'm not gonna do that, no way.

805. - Come on, man. - No way, no fucking way.

806. I aint doing that.

807. - Your days of scaring window washers are over?

808. - Big time.

809. big time.

810. - Now let me ask you this.

811. So you're not gonna be a preacher, that's my idea.

812. You know hit the road and convert people.

813. - You never know, you never know.

814. - To god.

815. Maybe it will happen.

816. - You never know.

817. - Cause its not up to you.

818. It's up to god. - I might see Jesus!

819. - You could see Jesus.

820. When you were young, Jesus was part of your life.

821. - Jesus is always around.

822. - Still around.

823. - He's always around somewhere.

824. - So even as a muslim.

825. - He's coming back, he's coming back.

826. - You believe in a resurrection of Jesus.

827. - Hey man.

828. - I'm just trying to understand.

829. - I don't know.

830. I'm trying to understand.

831. - That's all you can do right?

832. - Yeah.

833. - You don't know.

834. None of us know.

835. - What do you know?

836. - What do I?

837. I don't know shit.

838. - Well you know something.

839. - I know one thing, Mike.

840. - What do you know?

841. - I know that there's a god.

842. I don't know his nature.

843. You know?

844. I can't be, I can't be expected to know his nature

845. but I know from life there is a god.

846. - Really tell me.

847. - Because I've seen in life that people

848. often are, they get salvation

849. and that's what teaches me is there is a god.

850. - You know what teaches there's a god?

851. - No.

852. What teaches Mike Tyson that there's a god?

853. - Just that I'm existing.

854. - Yeah well that makes sense.

855. - Just that I'm existing.

856. Waking up this morning.

857. I mean if people didn't wake up.

858. Let's wake up.

859. - That's true yeah.

860. My dad did not wake up today.

861. - How do you know?

862. - Well he died 20 years ago.

863. - On this day?

864. - No.

865. No it's the anniversary of my dads death.

866. - What the fuck you talking about?

867. You bring up some bullshit.

868. You brought some bullshit to this scenario, man.

869. - I'll tell you my dads dream.

870. He lived in a remote area of Canada, dead poor.

871. - Dead poor?

872. The name of the town was named poor?

873. - His dream was to go to New York City.

874. - Are you Canadian?

875. - Yes sir.

876. - From where?

877. - From. - Dead Poor.

878. - Ottawa, Ontario.

879. Just outside of Ottawa, Ontario, the nation's capital.

880. But my dads dream his whole life.

881. - I think Canadians are the really the best people.

882. - You do? - One's I've seen.

883. Not the guy that going wolf creek

884. and those guys that are suciding

885. but I think the ones.

886. Hey, you know what I mean?

887. - Yeah I know what you mean.

888. - Eh, guy.

889. - Yeah they say eh a lot.

890. - I like eh.

891. - Especially a wolf creeker

892. - And they sorry a lot.

893. - That suicidal, yes.

894. - Look I steal your dog, you say sorry to me.

895. - Yeah.

896. - I love that.

897. You can abuse those kind of people.

898. - They have humility.

899. - I just love those people.

900. - Humility.

901. But my dads dream was to go to New York City

902. to Jack Dempsey's restaurant and meet Jack Dempsey

903. who sat in the back of the restaurant.

904. Did you ever meet Jack Dempsey?

905. - No never in my life but I used to hear that story, too.

906. - Yeah yeah.

907. Who did you meet in boxing that were your heroes?

908. You met Floyd Patterson, I'm sure.

909. - I met Floyd Patterson, Mohammad Ali,

910. Roberto Duran, Jersey Joe Walcott, Sugar Ray.

911. - Jersey okay stop at Jersey Joe Walcott.

912. How old was Jersey Joe Walcott when you met him?

913. - Well he appeared to be an older man.

914. Perhaps in his 60s.

915. It was 1984, 83 at the time and I was 16 when I met him.

916. - And you knew about him?

917. You're a historian.

918. - I watched all his films since I was 13.

919. - And where did you get the films, Cus?

920. - Well Cus had a partner that was

921. president of big fight films

922. and I used to just watch them all day.

923. - So you'd watch Jersey Joe Walcott.

924. - Everybody.

925. Robinson, Gange, just name, I'll watch them.

926. All in chronical order from 1890s

927. to modern times.

928. - And how do you rate yourself in your prime

929. as a heavyweight champion, in the history

930. of heavyweight champions?

931. - That's the whole thing about being the champion,

932. being the fighter, being so called a great fighter.

933. You don't get the chance to rate yourself.

934. That's what the crowd do.

935. - That's what history does but—

936. - You have to perform.

937. Off your performance, they judge.

938. - But what about your performance, the numbers,

939. the time you took to knock a man out,

940. the average time you took to knock a man

941. out in your prime was a couple of minutes probably.

942. - You still hold the record right,

943. for the quickest knockout?

944. - What's the quickest knockout, eight seconds?

945. - Yeah eight seconds.

946. - God damn.

947. That his record for his fucking.

948. - I was 15 years old, 15 years old.

949. - For jizzing on another dude.

950. - Eight second jizz?

951. - Yeah he jizzed for eight seconds.

952. - He's a jizzer.

953. The Jizzer.

954. - The fucking Jizzer.

955. That's your nickname.

956. - The Jizzer!

957. - The Jizzer.

958. - I'm a marathon masturbator.

959. - Yeah the marathon there's no doubt about it.

960. - But he wasn't jizzing on a guys face though.

961. - Good god.

962. - Hey listen, one time I was masturbating so hard and

963. - Is that how big your cock is?

964. - No, I was like.

965. I'm just going through the fucking

966. shit to make people think its that big.

967. It's not that big. - Okay it's not that big.

968. - So I'm going through the process

969. and I want to do it so bad

970. cause I'm in the back of the dressing room

971. and then boom, it's blood.

972. Oh no.

973. - What the?

974. - Yeah I came some fucking blood.

975. Oh no and I put it back in my pants,

976. I said oh my god.

977. Oh my god, I'm dead.

978. I got a disease.

979. I got a fucking disease.

980. Oh shit.

981. I didn't have sex.

982. Who was the last girl I had sex with?

983. Back then, I think I was on drugs the last time I had sex

984. so who was that girl?

985. I don't even know her name.

986. Oh I'm dying.

987. - It was probably a fucking Dracula or something.

988. Was it a Dracula?

989. - It could of been you.

990. I don't know. - No.

991. - I don't know.

992. I was just. - It was not me.

993. - It's blood.

994. I ejaculated blood and I was like

995. fuck I'm gonna die.

996. - Of course you're gonna die.

997. What happened?

998. - I don't know, nothing happened again.

999. - You never. - That was it?

1000. - You didn't see, seek a physician?

1001. - No, I was scared for him to tell me what it was.

1002. - Oh I see.

1003. - So you ignored it.

1004. - When I used to fight I used

1005. to always have sex and fucking drip,

1006. I would be dripping like a Good Humor in July

1007. and I'm scared to go cause I'm thinking I got AIDS,

1008. I can't take the AIDS test.

1009. I'm saying, I ain't taking that fucking test

1010. and the guy, and listen,

1011. some times they say, Alright Champ

1012. you don't got to take,

1013. alright listen.

1014. - He made a terrible mistake.

1015. He took the AIDS test and he crammed the night before.

1016. It was a terrible mistake.

1017. - I aint talking to you.

1018. Yo listen.

1019. I aint want to take the test man.

1020. I didn't want to take the test, I didn't.

1021. - Yeah I don't blame you.

1022. I've been there.

1023. - Now a lot of people say like boxers

1024. will be celibate for months before a fight.

1025. - Yeah yeah.

1026. - Did you ever try that?

1027. - Yeah I have.

1028. - Yeah did.

1029. - Hey listen, I started, listen,

1030. I thought that's how only reason I was gonna make it

1031. not to have sex.

1032. That's why I was weirdo for all those years.

1033. Hey I'm just happy.

1034. - Oh so you didn't have sex?

1035. - That stuff is not true.

1036. - Oh it's not true?

1037. - Don't believe that stuff.

1038. It's not true.

1039. Cus, my mentor, didn't believe it either

1040. but I guess he hear it so much

1041. and it all comes down to your discipline.

1042. How bad do you want it is how

1043. you know, how bad you can.

1044. - But you don't want to have sex that day, do you?

1045. - Well listen sometimes the most successful people

1046. in the world are kind of,

1047. they're like self sabotages.

1048. Like sometimes they're scared of success.

1049. Yeah sometimes you can self sabotage.

1050. - Did you self sabotage with Buster Douglas?

1051. - Lots of times but that was just a rare one

1052. but Buster, I self sabotaged and I still won so.

1053. - Yeah yeah yeah.

1054. - Everybody has their ups and downs.

1055. I'm very grateful, I'm very grateful for all my loses.

1056. - I remember but toward the end of your career

1057. you would lose and then you would thank

1058. your opponent for the opportunity to fight

1059. and the opportunity to make money for your family

1060. and I thought it was very humble, you know.

1061. I mean at other times you.

1062. - I never thought you'd notice that shit.

1063. - At other times you would,

1064. you would be pretty rough in those post interviews.

1065. - Sometimes, I'm sorry.

1066. Maybe that's my whole gimmick.

1067. Bad tough guy with a bad life

1068. and nobody can beat me.

1069. - Beating, eating, biting a guys ear.

1070. - Yeah.

1071. - That's not, you didn't invent that.

1072. That's a thing that people do right in fights?

1073. - Sometimes yeah.

1074. - Yeah. - sometimes.

1075. You get penalized for that stuff though.

1076. - Yeah sure.

1077. Well you lost the fight.

1078. - I lost the money.

1079. - Your money, yeah right?

1080. - But what do you mean you lost money?

1081. - 3 million bucks.

1082. - Oh well what's 3 million to you?

1083. - A lot of money.

1084. - What if you were—

1085. - And I take pictures.

1086. So the pictures of me taking with ear bites

1087. are kind of like doubled and tripled the three million.

1088. - Oh so well it all worked out.

1089. - Yeah but pictures of.

1090. Expensive.

1091. - Tell us about pigeons.

1092. - Pigeons are cool.

1093. - Where did you come into that?

1094. - All my life.

1095. - You know the movie On the Waterfront.

1096. - On the Waterfront, I know.

1097. - The dude, does that have anything to do with that?

1098. - No that was before I was born.

1099. - Oh I know.

1100. - How could I know anything about the Waterfront?

1101. - Well you can see movies that are old.

1102. You watch Jersey Joe Walcott for Christ sake.

1103. - I love old movies.

1104. - Yeah so.

1105. - Scorsese directing your biopic, that's true?

1106. That's official?

1107. - That's what it appears to be.

1108. - That's very cool.

1109. Who would you want to play?

1110. You want, so Jamie Foxx is possibly.

1111. - Yeah. - He'd be great.

1112. - He's gonna play, he wants to play.

1113. I never thought about a movie about myself

1114. until he brought it up.

1115. - What did he do, you said he worked for you at one point.

1116. - No he worked for.

1117. Listen, he will.

1118. No I don't necessarily.

1119. Yeah I think it was.

1120. Because my friend, I opened up this store

1121. and I had loaned him some money.

1122. I invested money for him to open a store

1123. and so I'm there,

1124. I'm not, to me I'm not business man.

1125. He sells phones, he sells pagers

1126. and I'm just some stupid kid.

1127. I come in there but I have money.

1128. So I come in there and I have my buddies with me

1129. and I see some other guys with me

1130. maybe some tough guy and we started a dice game

1131. and so we had started, you know see all the guys

1132. come out, the drug dealers, with their little stacks.

1133. Boom and all the tough guys come with their stacks

1134. and we just dealing shit and dicing.

1135. Jamie's looking around like what the hell

1136. is going on.

1137. This is a respectable place and I'm just there hanging out

1138. and just to see him doing so well

1139. it's just, man I'm just so grateful.

1140. That's just amazing.

1141. - He's doing great and he would do great as you.

1142. - He would be great as.

1143. - Who would you cast?

1144. - He'd be great at anybody.

1145. - Who would you cast as other members of your life?

1146. - He could play.

1147. - Who would you cast as Cus?

1148. - I don't know, Joe Pesci sounds like a good.

1149. - Oh that's a good idea.

1150. Very good idea.

1151. - Yeah he's from the Bronx, Cuz from the Bronx.

1152. - You want to read some jokes, Mike?

1153. We read jokes on this show off blue cards.

1154. - Go for it.

1155. - Alright you want me to do the first one then?

1156. I thought I was gonna be rich, Mike,

1157. but it turns out there really isn't that much

1158. of a call for radish cider.

1159. - Radish cider?

1160. What's radish cider?

1161. - That's a thing that someone made up.

1162. Now you read one.

1163. - Okay.

1164. Researchers have discovered that a cockroaches

1165. have personality.

1166. Not great ones, not great ones mind you.

1167. - Not good ones yeah that makes sense.

1168. - How you know?

1169. - Hey, why is taking no pleasure in things

1170. I used to enjoy a sign of depression?

1171. Maybe I'm just finally sick of crayons.

1172. - Say it again.

1173. - No it's over, it's a long joke.

1174. Hey why did Mike Tyson, this is a joke about you.

1175. Why did Mike Tyson break up with his girlfriend?

1176. - Which one?

1177. - At first he thought she was ear resistible

1178. but then they started having ear reconcilable differences.

1179. - That's whack as hell.

1180. - It's about your ear man.

1181. - It was about somebody else's ear.

1182. - What do you call a gay boxer?

1183. - Huh?

1184. - What do you call a gay boxer?

1185. - Norm MacDonald.

1186. - No.

1187. That was funny, that was funny.

1188. That was funny. - I'm sorry.

1189. - That was funny.

1190. - Norm, come on Norm.

1191. - Hey read that one.

1192. - Sherri Shepard is worried her ex husband

1193. will release nude photos of her.

1194. So am I.

1195. I'm not worried, Sherri Shepard is fine.

1196. - She's a fine woman.

1197. - Fine, sexy.

1198. - I don't know who wrote that joke.

1199. - Devilish ravaged black woman.

1200. - Yeah you like that?

1201. - I need meat to skeet, baby.

1202. - I got a joke for here.

1203. We should Adam Eget write a joke, right?

1204. - Write a joke?

1205. - Read a joke.

1206. - Oh yeah I'll read a joke.

1207. - Oh heres a good joke for Adam Eget.

1208. Do you like when Adam Eget reads a joke, Mike?

1209. - Hmm?

1210. - Do you like when Adam Eget reads a joke?

1211. - Are you capable of reading, Adam?

1212. - I mean we'll see.

1213. We're all gonna find out together, right?

1214. - Absolutely.

1215. - Well apparently the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 phones

1216. are spontaneously catching on fire.

1217. When you run screaming, they also hit you

1218. with roaming charges.

1219. - I don't get it.

1220. I never witness that.

1221. - Yeah I haven't either.

1222. - Okay listen, this is the last joke.

1223. - I want to read the last joke.

1224. - You're gonna read it and you see you don't,

1225. we as white people can say that

1226. but you can saw the real thing.

1227. - Okay good good.

1228. - You know what the real thing is right?

1229. - Yeah.

1230. - Cause there's a lot of words that start

1231. with that letter but you know what I'm talking about.

1232. - Yeah.

1233. - Okay lets hear this joke.

1234. - Researchers in Russia say that the dolphins

1235. have a distinct spoken language of their own.

1236. - You're saying that dolphins have

1237. a distinct language all their own?

1238. - Yes. - How?

1239. - What's the solution that they use the N word constantly.

1240. - No what word do they use?

1241. - Nigger word, the N word.

1242. - Oh yeah.

1243. What you call it?

1244. The what word?

1245. - Nigger.

1246. Nigger, ninja.

1247. - Word yeah.

1248. - Say it, I want to hear you say that word.

1249. - I don't want to say it.

1250. - Say it.

1251. - Cause then it will be on tape forever.

1252. - Say it.

1253. - I say it in my private life many times.

1254. - Say it, honky,

1255. say it honky, say nigger honky.

1256. Say it, say it, fucking say it, honky.

1257. - Listen, am I wrong or am imaging this?

1258. - No say nigger, honky.

1259. Say it, honky.

1260. Come on, cracker.

1261. - Mike, I have to ask you a question.

1262. - Say it, say it.

1263. - I can't say it, let him, make him say it.

1264. Mike. - You motherfucker.

1265. - Make Adam Eget say it, Mike, god damn

1266. and these crazy fists are like inches from my face.

1267. - I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1268. - It's Mike Tyson.

1269. - I'm just playing guys, I'm just playing.

1270. - I know but you're playing.

1271. - This is Hollywood shit, this Hollywood.

1272. - You're playing with your registered weapons

1273. of your fist.

1274. - It's Hollywood, it's Hollywood, I'm playing.

1275. I'm playing.

1276. Tell I'm playing, man.

1277. - He's playing.

1278. - This is what I think I saw on Arsenio.

1279. You tell me if I'm wrong.

1280. - What?

1281. - It was you, it was Sugar Ray Leonard,

1282. and then the great Mohammad Ali came out.

1283. Arsenio Hall asked Mohammad Ali

1284. what nickname would you give me

1285. and Mohammad Ali said, I remember him saying this

1286. and Arsenio told me he did say this,

1287. that he gave Arsenio a nickname on the show

1288. that I can't say.

1289. - What was it?

1290. - Well you can say it but I can't.

1291. - Was it N?

1292. If that his nickname you'd be, oh.

1293. - That's what I heard.

1294. - You look George Bush just a little bit.

1295. The part, look, look a little George.

1296. Come on serious man, can you see it?

1297. - What's wrong with...

1298. - Can you see it? - A little bit.

1299. - Don't, no kiss ass, can you see it for real?

1300. - What you don't like George Bush?

1301. - No George Bush is great.

1302. - Come on man, he's a great man.

1303. - Yeah but you're not.

1304. - No I'm not.

1305. I don't pretend to be George Bush.

1306. - Don't look like George Bush.

1307. - Yeah I like to look like a great man.

1308. - Stop looking like George Bush.

1309. - Don't break my arm, Mike, please.

1310. Don't snap my wrist like a twig.

1311. I know it would be good television but god damn.

1312. Can you hit him for awhile?

1313. - No, no, no.

1314. - I know you're playing but play with him.

1315. - I like playing with you.

1316. Know why, Norm?

1317. - Why?

1318. - Cause everybody always ask me what its like

1319. to be with you so no I'm gonna tell

1320. oh man I kicked Norm's ass the last time I saw Norm.

1321. - Yeah it's the fucking interview started

1322. you were gonna suck my dick.

1323. - Yeah I know but I changed, I'm a flipper.

1324. I got multi personality disorder.

1325. I go to this guy, I go to this guy.

1326. - I would never go to you for a blow job

1327. cause you might beat me up instead.

1328. - You never know.

1329. - Yeah you never know with Mike.

1330. He's the worst fucking male prostitute.

1331. You would be a horrible male prostitute.

1332. - But a great mugger.

1333. - Yeah you'd be a good mugger.

1334. - Hey want a blow job?

1335. - Boom!

1336. Yeah pretended to be, that would be a good.

1337. If you didn't get into boxing

1338. where would you be right now?

1339. - Well, I don't know.

1340. - If Cus D'Amato didn't come into your life.

1341. - I don't know, I would of been.

1342. - Was greatness, would you have achieved greatness

1343. anyway, do you believe?

1344. - I don't know, we all have different

1345. definition of greatness.

1346. - But its what you wanted from an early age?

1347. - With greatness could of just been.

1348. - Being a good family man being a father.

1349. - Fucking being one of these guys, missionary guys

1350. not the position but the guys that

1351. go to these places.

1352. - Sure, sure.

1353. - They go to all these places.

1354. No way, you go to all these places.

1355. - No they're great and then go home

1356. and they have sex in the traditional way.

1357. - I like to believe I'm doing it in the name of god.

1358. - I believe you are too, sir.

1359. - I like to think I'm doing good things

1360. in the name of god even though I often

1361. offering fellatio to people

1362. but you know it just in the name of god.

1363. - He offers fellatio to people.

1364. - Like I did earlier today.

1365. - But then when they go to collect

1366. he fucking breaks their arm.

1367. - Oh things are really bad.

1368. - Loo at this, what about this picture

1369. over here this fellas holding, what about that?

1370. - It's the end of the interview?

1371. - I guess.

1372. - I'm glad it's not the fucking hour

1373. cause I thinking fucking hour.

1374. We were talking about an hour before we got here,

1375. right man?

1376. - I think you did an hour.

1377. - I was telling you about the hour before we got here,

1378. I ain't doing no fucking hour.

1379. - How long was the interview?

1380. How long was the interview?

1381. - 45.

1382. - 45 minutes, Mike.

1383. - If this was an hour, I would of beat

1384. your fucking ass.

1385. The one thing I said I don't want to an hour.

1386. - I know, man.

1387. I've I'd done an hour you would of beat

1388. the fucking shit out of me

1389. and I think I would of been sucking dick.

1390. - Oh the days not over.

1391. When the cameras off, we going down.

1392. You going down.

1393. - After the camera?

1394. - In both ways.

1395. He's going down out and he's going down for the blow.

1396. - I don't want to go down both ways.

1397. If I go down if the, if you beat me up

1398. then I'll, you got to let me do the blow job first

1399. cause if you beat me up, I won't be able to do it.

1400. - Yeah yeah fuck.

1401. - I'd be like.

1402. - Forgot that.

1403. Forgot that.

1404. - You don't want that.

1405. God damn.

1406. - Then we gonna have to get Orlando Cruz.

1407. - Is it out.

1408. What was the joke?

1409. - Orlando Cruz.

1410. - What do you call a gay guy?

1411. You said me but it was Orlando Cruz

1412. but it's not really a joke because he's out

1413. of the closet.

1414. - No he's a great fighter, too.

1415. - Incredible fighter.

1416. Now when you go in to,

1417. if you went into a ring with a guy who was

1418. come out of the closet, he was gay,

1419. would you use that against him?

1420. Would you start calling him names in the ring?

1421. - No, no.

1422. - You wouldn't?

1423. - Before the fight?

1424. - No during the fight.

1425. - Oh no.

1426. - Oh you don't talk?

1427. You don't trash talk?

1428. - Oh no, I don't got time to talk.

1429. I don't time to talk.

1430. - Yeah yeah.

1431. - We gotta fight, we gotta fight.

1432. - Do you hear other guys talking to you?

1433. - Oh yeah.

1434. - And that triggers you to go harder

1435. or you ignore it?

1436. - I'm not angriest.

1437. The objective is to appear that I'm angry.

1438. - Okay. - I'm not angry.

1439. - So that was George Foreman also?

1440. - No he's not gonna, it's not over.

1441. He wants us to stop.

1442. No fuck you.

1443. - Come on man, George Foreman also.

1444. - Oh he was vicious.

1445. - But it was an appearance?

1446. - Yes.

1447. - Cause afterwards he was a sweet guy.

1448. - Listen this guys a preacher, alright,

1449. give me a break.

1450. - He's a preacher.

1451. - He's a preacher alright.

1452. - Yeah.

1453. - Let's all.

1454. - But Sonny Liston that was no act.

1455. - That's the real mean dude.

1456. - That's the real bad guy.

1457. - That's the real dude.

1458. - Bad guy.

1459. - That's the real dude.

1460. - You know what George Chuvalo told me?

1461. Maybe you know this story

1462. but he, George Chuvalo told me

1463. he wanted to fight cause he all of the greats.

1464. - He been waiting Sonny, too.

1465. - He wanted to fight Liston and his manager,

1466. manger was only offering him 10,000

1467. he said give me 20,000 just for my self respect

1468. and he said I'm talking with his manager every day,

1469. I'm talking with Sonny and he won't go for it

1470. then they found Sonny dead.

1471. He'd been dead five days.

1472. Chuvalo said you motherfucker, you told me you talked

1473. to him yesterday.

1474. Alright, you're alright okay.

1475. Say goodbye.

1476. - I got in the fight business man.

1477. That's the only business.

1478. Fight business is the only business

1479. in the history of business that all the fucking,

1480. you know everything's not on the table.

1481. There's always something and the whole thing

1482. is never on the table.

1483. - Something under the table.

1484. God damn it.

1485. - It's never the whole deal, this is what it is.

1486. Never, never don't believe it, never.

1487. - I worked with, one day with Don King.

1488. - What was that like?

1489. - He was like a viper.

1490. - It was fucking scary right?

1491. - I went in a room with him, he was a scary motherfucker,

1492. you know with four nation of Islam guys around him,

1493. not smiling not, no Only in America none of that shit

1494. just looking at me with rings and shit.

1495. - Listen and I'ma tell you this right now

1496. from experience with Don King

1497. and I'm gonna tell you an experience.

1498. He's not gonna bust a grape,

1499. he's not gonna, that's just like misperception,

1500. he's not gonna hit nobody, he's not gonna

1501. have no physical confrontation with nobody.

1502. It's not gonna happen.

1503. - But still he can control incredibly tough guys.

1504. - No he's not gonna fight nobody

1505. he's not gonna do good fighting nobody

1506. he's not that guy.

1507. I know he's a big guy but he's not the fighter.

1508. - I heard his move.

1509. - You'd never believe it, he's not a fighter.

1510. - I heard his move was if his boxer

1511. you know if you got a five million dollar purse,

1512. he would pull out an attache case with 400,000

1513. in it and say take it or leave it

1514. and the guy would take it.

1515. - That's during reconstruction times.

1516. He wouldn't do that now.

1517. - Reconstruction?

1518. - That's what he did to Peter Jackson, those guys.

1519. - Back in, Peter Jackson yeah.

1520. Yeah you do know a lot of boxing.

1521. - You're a history guy huh?

1522. - A little bit, yeah.

1523. - You know that.

1524. - Well I like the older guys, you know?

1525. Fitzsimmons.

1526. - Yeah I went to his grave site.

1527. - Oh you did, oh wow.

1528. - He's buried next to Jack Johnson.

1529. They were friends.

1530. - They were friends?

1531. I did not know that.

1532. - Yeah they fought too but they were friends.

1533. Fitzsimmons was a different kind of guy.

1534. He's from Australia he's very conservative

1535. kind of Republican.

1536. - Tall guy.

1537. - Yeah very conservative, didn't tolerate nothing.

1538. You couldn't talk disrespectful to him.

1539. - But not racists.

1540. - No he wasn't, he didn't appear to be.

1541. He said, you lay your hands on me, I will murder you.

1542. He talks like that.

1543. Lay your hands on me, I'll murder you.

1544. - And who did they bring back, James Jeffries?

1545. - Jeffries, was listen, Jeffires.

1546. - He was a great fighter.

1547. - Yeah Jeffries was one of those guys talk about

1548. just scary, just a mean, just a mean yeah.

1549. He was one of them mean fucking guys.

1550. Really tough, you know.

1551. - But they brought him back to fight Johnson

1552. he was an old man.

1553. - He was old washed up but no listen,

1554. he was remarkable at getting in shape that quick.

1555. - Right yeah yeah.

1556. - Handball and boxing.

1557. - Well he must of been 40.

1558. - No he was 38, 39.

1559. Something like that but he got in shape.

1560. - Well 40's pretty close.

1561. - He got in shape man.

1562. - Yeah imagine that coming out of retirement

1563. to fight Jack Johnson.

1564. - After five years of retirement doing nothing.

1565. He got fat, gained 300 pounds.

1566. - And what about Jack Johnson?

1567. That guy was a big mother fucker.

1568. - He wasn't that big, for the time he was.

1569. He was only six foot and a half and 198 pounds

1570. but for the time that wasn't big.

1571. So when he lost to Jeff

1572. Jeff was six six 245, that was a giant of a man.

1573. You know that was a giant.

1574. - They used to have those big freaks

1575. like Carnera where they'd just find

1576. a big tall guy and figured he could box.

1577. - Well that's like

1578. when you think the biggest guy is the best guy.

1579. They're not the best guy but if they hit you

1580. they can hurt you.

1581. - They can but you get inside,

1582. you just get inside them and take them apart.

1583. - You got to get in there first.

1584. Yeah get in there.

1585. - Who was your toughest fight ever?

1586. - Everybody.

1587. - Everybody was tough.

1588. Not everybody.

1589. If you knock a guy out in eight seconds

1590. that's not tough.

1591. - Well Cus told me, if I wasn't,

1592. if that guy wasn't relaxing he would of got me.

1593. I don't know why, eight seconds that's it.

1594. You had your hands down.

1595. - Well you do that a lot.

1596. I read he told you were gonna lose

1597. the Golden Glove.

1598. - No he wouldn't say that

1599. but he would just say.

1600. - He always talks this fucker.

1601. - What? - Adam Eget.

1602. - He just never let me think that.

1603. - He talks you down all the fucking time.

1604. - That's okay.

1605. - I'm gonna be honest with you.

1606. Is that alright with you?

1607. - He was always my favorite.

1608. - Yeah come on.

1609. - You can forgive him?

1610. - Y'all about ready to take a picture?

1611. - Picture, baby.

1612. - I forgive people that talk me down.

1613. - Yeah.

1614. - I love the fact that they talk about me good or bad.

1615. You know?

1616. - Oh that's great. - Talk about me.

1617. - Cause you, you know the equilibrium

1618. in the universe, he talks you down

1619. I talk you up.

1620. - So I got a balance between.

1621. - Yeah baby.

1622. - Okay.

1623. - Yeah you got love.

1624. - Everybody.

1625. - You got love from me and disdain from him

1626. but you still shake your hand man

1627. cause you do forgiveness.

1628. - Let's take a picture. - I got love for the universe.

1629. - The great Mike Tyson.

1630. - Love for the universe people.

1631. Where's the camera I say love for the universe.

1632. - We're gonna take a picture live on TV.

1633. - Love for the universe.

1634. This universe of people.

1635. - That's beautiful.

1636. - You should be a preacher, I tell you that man.

1637. - No it's in the blood, it's in the blood.

1638. - Look, we're taking a picture, man.

1639. - I'm the muslim, I'm the muslim preacher.

1640. Muslim preacher.

1641. - A muslim preacher, you go all over the world.

1642. - And preach the Islamic gospel.

1643. - That's right baby.

1644. - Thank you, Mike.

1645. - The great Mike Tyson.

1646. Thank you for being here, sir.

1647. I appreciate it.

1648. Very very nice of you.

1649. - It's a honor to meet you.

1650. Thank you.