1. So they got you
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2. Yep.
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3. Well, don't bring home any chocolate.
I'm watching my figure.
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5. What do they have you doing there anyway?
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6. Nothing.
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9. There's nothing to talk about.
I just mix the chocolate all night long.
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even though you had never met him.
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13. Yes.
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the wake and everything,
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21. It was March and the ground was too hard,
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24. I wouldn't have done all the stuff after.
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28. What do you think drove you
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29. You know,
because most people wouldn't do that.
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30. Um...
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to see a movie that I wanted to see.
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to control these guys?
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36. Yeah.
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37. Yeah, 'cause, uh...
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38. well, everybody was always
tellin' me what to do.
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39. You know, my dad, my grandma, my bosses.
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42. So Jeff...
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43. just going back,
talking about Steven Hicks...
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45. Uh...
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47. Yes.
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48. Okay, 'cause I never
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49. You should know their names.
These are people you killed.
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50. So, Steven Hicks, the hitchhiker.
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54. Both Steves.
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56. Yeah.
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58. I didn't want to kill him, but...
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59. So yeah, accidental.
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60. Drugged myself too on accident.
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62. Because after that,
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63. Well...
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64. I started in with the drinking more.
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65. A lot of solitary drinking.
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69. When I was, uh, living with my grandma,
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70. I'd, uh, go to the bars
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73. And I'd drug 'em.
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74. And then I'd take 'em downstairs
to the fruit cellar.
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75. Then I'd strangle them
once they were unconscious
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76. 'cause I didn't want them to suffer.
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77. And how many did you kill
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78. Uh...
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80. Three?
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82. Well, one guy was Black,
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84. and, uh, another was Indian
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85. It was just about
if, if I thought that they were beautiful.
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86. I'm not buying that.
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87. You targeted your victims.
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88. Sorry?
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89. You purposefully moved
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90. It's what I could afford, sir.
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91. To an area that was
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92. and you knew that, isn't that right?
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93. Easier to get away with things there,
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94. easier to hunt.
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95. So you get 'em down there, then what?
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96. Um...
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97. Well, at that point, I'd just kinda panic,
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98. you know, like, my grandma
was gonna come down there and find 'em.
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99. But she didn't like
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100. So, I knew I was pretty much safe.
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101. But, uh, well,
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102. then she started to notice the smell.
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103. Jeff?
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104. But I figured out how to do it.
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105. You just, uh,
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106. Hey, Grandma.
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107. throw 'em in the trash and...
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108. Ya winning?
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109. doesn't smell at all, really.
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110. And Jeff, did you...
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111. You were, what?
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112. Yeah.
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113. I'd soak some parts
in acid or, uh,
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114. sometimes just boil 'em
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116. The, uh...
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117. You know,
the compulsion had just taken over
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119. I wasn't even trying to stop it.
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120. Can I just get the electric chair,
you think?
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122. No.
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123. I'm not insane.
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124. It just got really easy, is the problem.
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125. That's why it kept happening.
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126. And your grandma
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127. No, she suspected something, just...
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128. not what I was actually doing,
I don't think.
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129. Said she heard a thud one time.
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130. - Jeff?
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131. Go back to bed.
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132. I just told her I fell.
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133. She saw I brought guys home, I think.
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134. But, uh...
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135. she didn't want to accept what that meant.
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137. Yeah, I think she just
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138. didn't want to know about my, uh...
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139. lifestyle and whatnot.
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140. But she noticed the smell?
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141. Yeah.
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142. July and August I kinda dreaded
'cause it got so humid down there.
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143. No AC.
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144. Jeff! Something smells real bad
down in the cellar.
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145. It's my taxidermy stuff.
I told you that already.
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146. And for tonight's crime report,
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147. police are asking for the public's help
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148. in finding the people
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149. that destroyed a home in Stafford.
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150. Jeff, the smell.
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151. Oh...
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152. Uh, yeah. I seen it.
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153. It's a dead raccoon under the back porch.
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154. Can't get to it.
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155. Don't worry though.
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156. It'll smell for a while,
and then it'll stop.
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157. Why don't you think she did anything?
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158. I mean, that smell, flesh decomposing,
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159. that's a very distinctive smell.
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160. I mean, we are kinda hardwired
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161. Well, not everybody.
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162. But, uh, yeah, I'm not sure.
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163. I think she, uh...
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165. But when she found my altar,
she kinda blew her top.
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166. Watch yourself on those stairs!
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167. Oh God! You can't smell that, Jeff?
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168. No.
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169. Oh!
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170. No wonder your nana's upset.
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171. I am too now.
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172. Well, that's what it smells like, Dad.
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173. Animals and stuff.
Taxidermy, it's my hobby.
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175. - I left the key at work, I think.
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176. Let me see.
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178. It is here.
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179. You're the one
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180. And now, you're, like...
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181. Wait a minute.
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182. You use that saw to cut up roadkill?
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183. It's big enough. Yeah.
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184. Like, a woodchuck skull?
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187. What?
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188. What the heck?
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189. What?
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190. What the heck? What is this?
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192. I was just using chemicals
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195. You think you could have washed
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196. Jeez, Jeff!
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197. - Sorry, Dad.
- God!
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200. Yeah, I said I'd stop. I'll stop.
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201. Yeah, and, uh, get rid of that comic book
devil stuff too, goddammit.
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202. I know you say
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211. Once I stopped,
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213. You know, every cop car I heard,
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231. Come on, baby.
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232. - What the fuck? Jesus!
- Don't worry, I'm not a cop!
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236. Uh, no. I'm all right.
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246. No, you should come with.
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247. This is a rough area.
You shouldn't just be sitting there.
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249. Thanks a lot.
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250. You bet.
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253. Thanks, Jeff. I'm Ron.
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- Yeah.
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255. - Good.
- So you live around here?
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256. Yeah, my grandma's.
Just for... just for now.
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258. Hey, we gotta be quiet though.
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259. Otherwise, the beast will wake up
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260. Come on in.
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261. Here, just make yourself at home.
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266. Nah, man. Look, I'm just here because
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270. No, I do not. I gotta work in the morning!
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280. - Thank you.
- You're welcome.
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299. - There you go. Just relax.
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306. Yeah, we're leaving now, okay?
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Just let him sleep it off! Jeez!
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I'm calling your father.
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328. Hey! Nobody's calling anybody, okay?
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He's just gonna sleep it off.
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332. I am giving this young man a blanket.
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I am taking him to a hospital.
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337. Well, drinking is what you were doing,
and God knows what else.
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338. - This is fucking unreal!
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339. You watch your mouth, young man!
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340. You want to go up to your room,
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341. And you can bet your sweet bippy
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342. If you're so worried about him, Grandma,
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360. This is the end of the line.
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361. - Where am I?
- You OD'd. You're lucky to be alive.
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385. He's blond.
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386. He isn't allowed in anymore
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393. Whatever he's using is gonna be there.
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I know right where it is.
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what do you have to say for yourself?
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have a cup of coffee."
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- Jeffrey Dahmer.
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Trying to drive off in his car.
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like, tranquilizers or whatnot?
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what they would look like.
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if you wanna come take a look.
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Grandma, did I look through his wallet?
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but we went to the house.
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442. 'Cause I'm telling you
that this man tried to kill me.
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there's nothing you can do about that?
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444. Without any evidence,
yes, that's what I'm saying.
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- I can't divulge that information.
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- What the hell?
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He's fucking crazy!
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454. Come get your 50 dollars.
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455. No!
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456. Oh, come on. What...?
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457. I call ambulance.
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458. I call ambulance.
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459. Step down!
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460. Put that on the ground.
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461. Come with us, please.
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462. Mr. Dahmer, please stand.
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463. To the charge of sexual assault
in the second degree,
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464. you have pled no contest.
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465. Therefore, I hereby sentence you
to one year in the custody
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466. of the Milwaukee County
House of Correction.
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467. Now, Mr. Dahmer,
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468. looking at you right now,
you remind me a lot of my grandson.
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469. Now, he had a problem with alcohol.
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470. But he turned it around.
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471. And now he has a successful car wash.
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472. You are not the kind of guy who belongs
in the correction system, okay?
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473. You need a second chance.
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474. And this is your lucky day
because I'm gonna give it to you.
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475. And on the other side of this, hopefully
you will have learned your lesson
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476. and you'll get your act together.
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477. Now, I see
that you have steady employment.
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478. So the court is willing to grant you
work release of up to 40 hours per week.
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479. When you finish your work,
you report directly back to jail.
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480. And while the court is obliged to inform
your employer of this arrangement,
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481. I'm willing to do you the favor
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482. of leaving out the exact nature
of your... misconduct.
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483. Does that sound fair to you?
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484. Yes. Thank you, Your Honor.
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485. Where are we going?
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486. Grandma's.
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487. We're gonna have
one last dinner together as a family.
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488. And then when you get out,
you're gonna get a place of your own.
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489. Because we're at our wits' end
with you, Jeff.
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490. Our wits' end!
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491. Roast is gonna take
about another ten minutes.
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492. You want another beer, Jeff?
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493. Yeah, thanks.
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494. You know, Jeff,
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495. it was your grandmother
who paid your bail.
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496. Okay? Twenty-five hundred dollars
is a lot for her.
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497. You're gonna be expected to pay that back.
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498. This whole thing was a setup.
All's I was doing was some photography.
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499. Be quiet.
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500. No more hobbies for me, I guess.
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501. Enough.
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502. Where is that box?
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503. What box?
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504. Don't play dumb.
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505. Your grandmother has a box
with all my stuff in it.
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506. Photos, ribbons, all my accomplishments.
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507. And I want you to give it back.
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508. Go get it.
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509. No, she gave it to me.
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510. Goddammit, Jeff!
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511. Get it.
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512. Fine.
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513. Are you gonna follow me?
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514. Yes, I am.
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515. Come on, open it.
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516. I can't. I lost the key.
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517. Jeff, don't lie to me!
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518. I'm not lying. I don't know where it is.
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519. Oh godda—!
There's something bad in there, Jeff.
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520. What is it, pornography?
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521. No. It's just, like, my stuff.
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522. Is it gay pornography, Jeff?
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523. Because all these years, I look under
your mattress, I don't find a Playboy.
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524. Now you're going to jail
for molesting a 13-year-old boy.
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525. No, it's just, like, my stuff,
like baseball cards!
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526. You're not gonna tell me, are you?
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527. Oh fuck,
I'll break the fuckin' thing open!
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528. Come on, Dad! What the heck?
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529. Open this fucking door, Jeff!
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530. Don't break your box, Dad.
I found the key. Right here.
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531. It's just some pornos.
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532. Put 'em in there
so Grandma wouldn't find 'em.
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533. Sorry.
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534. Yeah.
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535. Dinner's ready!
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536. We... we better get down there. Yeah.
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537. Hon, I know you're upset.
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538. It's okay.
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539. No one likes to know that their son's
going to prison in the morning.
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540. I just keep asking myself...
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541. Did I do this to him?
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542. - I mean it. Did I—
- Sweetheart.
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543. I mean, should
I have stayed in that fucking marriage?
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544. Should I have done
more things with him like taxidermy?
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545. He really loved that stuff.
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546. Honey, you can't do that to yourself.
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547. Because I really should've
pushed back harder.
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548. I should've pressed him harder
to find out what was really going on.
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549. You know?
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550. But the truth is,
he made me uncomfortable.
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551. And I really didn't wanna know...
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552. All those red flags. Oh.
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553. God.
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554. And I asked him.
You know, every time I asked him.
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555. Hello?
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556. Discharged?
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557. What the heck happened, Jeff?
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558. I don't know.
Guess they thought I drank too much.
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559. They never really said.
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560. So, what...
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561. What the heck are you doing
with a mannequin, Jeff?
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562. What? Did you steal it?
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563. I just did it on a dare.
Whole thing was just a joke.
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565. So, what were you doing
at the State Fair, Jeff?
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566. Exposing yourself?
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567. I was just peeing outside.
I didn't know anyone could see.
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568. Thanks for getting me, Dad.
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569. Why did you molest that boy?
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570. - Jeff?
- I didn't molest him.
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571. All's I did was take photos.
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572. Don't bullshit me.
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573. I'm telling you.
Didn't even know how old he was.
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574. Kid said you molested him.
Why would he lie about that?
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575. I don't know. I don't know why.
All's I did was take some pictures.
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576. I was even gonna pay him.
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577. It was all a setup.
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578. People are out to get me, Dad.
I don't understand it either.
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579. That kid's father...
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580. I can't stop seeing the look in his eye.
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581. He looked right at me.
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582. Jeff Dahmer knew my son was a child.
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583. When he met my son, he asked him
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584. what grade in school he was in.
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585. If my son was not so healthy and athletic,
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586. the drug that this man gave my son
could have killed him—
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587. Mr. Sinthasomphone,
I'm sorry. It's just, uh...
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588. I am having trouble understanding you.
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589. Could one of your children
maybe help us out here?
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590. Thank you.
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591. We are immigrants.
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592. - We work hard.
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593. We take the jobs we can get.
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594. We don't have
the money for an expensive lawyer.
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595. My family,
we're not eating or sleeping—
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596. Okay. Okay.
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597. Maybe if your father would like
to hand his letter to the bailiff,
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598. we can enter it into the record.
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599. Mr. Dahmer, please stand.
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600. To the charge of sexual assault
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601. you've pled no contest.
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602. Therefore, I hereby sentence you
to one year in the custody
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604. Dear Judge Gardner,
I believe very strongly
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605. that my son
Jeffrey Dahmer is an alcoholic.
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606. If he isn't treated,
I have tremendous reservations
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607. about Jeff's chances
when he hits the street.
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608. I've heard of a treatment program
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609. that has had great success
in treating alcoholics
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610. and that Jeff's placement
in such a program
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611. is critical to his future.
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612. You're the one
that likes fucking kids, huh? Huh?
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intervene in some way to help my son,
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I want a better life.
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616. I feel this may be our last chance
to do something lasting
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617. and that you,
Your Honor, might hold that key.
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618. Sincerely, Lionel Dahmer.
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- Hey.
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620. - Good to see you.
- Yeah.
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621. - Hey, Jeff. Ah. You look great.
- Hey.
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622. You lost some weight.
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623. - Well, that's good to hear.
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624. Yeah.
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625. Good thing was
I got to lift weights a lot.
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626. And read a lot.
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627. - And going to work every day, that helped.
- Yeah.
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628. But, yeah, been doing good, you know.
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630. Great. Just... That's just great.
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632. so you're gonna be staying with
your grandma for a week and that's it.
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633. Then you gotta find
an apartment on your own.
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634. - But Shari and I'll help you with that.
- Okay.
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636. Jeff, when you were in there, uh...
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638. You know, like a psychologist,
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639. or did you talk to anybody,
like a counselor?
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641. Uh, anything.
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642. Um, you know, alcohol for one or, um...
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643. you know, just how you're...
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644. You know, what's going on inside of you.
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645. Or maybe, um, you know, some guidance
on how you're meant to be, um...
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646. You know...
You know, contribute to society.
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647. I don't know. Just, you know,
stuff I wasn't able to teach you.
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648. No, they just leave you alone in there.
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649. I just kept to myself the whole time.
That was kind of the best part.
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650. Come on. You said
we could stop for hamburgers.
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651. Yeah, um, here.
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652. Why don't you warm up the car?
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653. I'm parked down at the very end.
I'm gonna hit the john.
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654. - Okay.
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655. Well, here it is.
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656. Oh, shoot. Uh...
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657. Sorry.
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658. Trying to learn it.
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