1. It's the moment
you've all been waiting for.
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of your burning questions answered.
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we have several surprise guests.
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5. That's right. We have someone
who's been here since the beginning.
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from season one is now a wife.
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our very first mom,
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9. an ex-fiancé.
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who's back from Miami…
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Love Is Blind baby.
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12. So let's not wait a second longer.
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13. Please welcome
from Washington D.C….
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14. Your favorites from
Season 7 of Love Is Blind.
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15. Taylor and Garrett.
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17. Marissa.
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18. Ramses.
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19. Hannah.
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25. - Hi!
- What's up?
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29. 'Cause the wait is over.
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30. Welcome to
the Love Is Blind Reunion!
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this season was smooth sailing.
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they had to work out the kinks,
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we're gonna talk about all of it.
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and say hello to our former participants
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who are also joining us today.
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36. - Hi, everybody.
- Hi!
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37. Welcome, welcome.
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catch up with y'all in a little bit,
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Nobody fret.
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45. So Washington D.C. took us
on quite a journey.
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to the heartwarming "I do's,"
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one of my favorite parts of every season.
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both of our married couples,
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53. - Congratulations.
Yes!
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the black and gold?
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- No, not at all.
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- I know, we always match.
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got to join us today.
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59. - Hi, Mom and Dad.
Hi, Mom and Dad.
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chemistry we felt watching this season.
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- Too late. I can. You're right.
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it's only good if it's used periodically.
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- No, seriously.
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the best catch of them all?
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He makes me feel loved and comfortable
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and that's all you can really ask,
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incredible circumstances.
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- It's the best.
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with your best friend.
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We've already alluded to it.
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call this "Taylor's version"?
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she's filled a "Blank Space"?
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- In your fashion world?
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- The puns are great.
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we talked a little bit about it earlier,
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from you on the season.
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84. Avid fisherman. So have you had
a chance to take Taylor fishing yet?
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That was the real test, obviously.
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- Oh, yeah. Flying colors.
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- This real test. Can we check it out?
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90. - Okay. I think—
- You look great, baby. Yeah.
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"No, grab it by the eyes."
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that's how you hold 'em?
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95. - Yeah. You guys come. We'll show you.
- You don't have to do it, but, yep.
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of inviting people fishing,
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special fishing trip that you took here.
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- Very cool.
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Why wasn't I invited to this bromance?
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fishing experience,
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- No, I had a great time.
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I was surprised by how much fun I had.
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in the pods, so I was testing it out.
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- Well, yeah, something like that.
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so happy to have you guys here today.
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but you've been married almost a year now.
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How's it going? How's everything been?
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This year has been a lot of laughter,
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once you get married,
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that time that you have.
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to solidify that foundation,
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That bubble was nice. Yeah.
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Tyler, you had spoken on the show,
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you revealed that you had donated sperm
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and her wife have children.
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- And then, since then,
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are now happening.
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a friend and her wife start a family,
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and left her high and dry.
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voluntarily stepped in and helped.
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You'll see me around.
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you know, all their kids.
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became very shaky with a friend.
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There's no set lines to this.
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This has never been news to us.
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That's number one.
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an authentic experience,
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the experience if we didn't.
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I cannot hide my facial expressions.
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when he went to meet them.
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comfortable sharing and things he wasn't.
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a couple other things we'll get to later.
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- Hey, Stephen.
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because you wanna be authentic,
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is they have a hard time—
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understanding anything that we don't get,
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anything that's out of our norm.
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Instead of trying to rationalize,
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and didn't know what to do.
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This is till death do us part.
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"Be done with him."
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- And it's like, look…
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go pop my stuff a little bit.
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something that I would never find again.
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- We're just so grateful for your love,
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truly appreciate the insight,
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a lot of different things along the way,
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your battles, things like that…
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But that's the beauty of it,
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continuing to experience each other
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that ride. So, Tyler, what about you?
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I've been sick…
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and she has been standing there.
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said— or she hasn't said, "I love you."
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I love you no matter what."
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ever in my life experiencing this,
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feel what unconditional love is like.
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- For you, as the mother perspective,
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for you this past year?
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I mean, I'm learning from them, you know?
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They have open communication.
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incredible people through this experience.
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favorite people who was on this stage
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in the house tonight. AD!
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- I mean, statuesque.
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an emotional reunion, girl.
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Fill us in. How you doing?
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I'm happy. I'm thriving.
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Like, I'm off that roller coaster.
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thank you for sharing your story
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you were able to feel that, you know,
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- With a someone.
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But we're keeping it private.
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- "I don't know. You tell me."
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- Yeah, no. All good things.
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- And you know we love you.
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- Thank you, thank you.
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- It's okay to cry.
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see that and just relive it, pretty much.
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that person couldn't be me.
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so I did go up there and speak to him,
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She would've carried that relationship.
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You got to walk away.
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an issue for us or not.
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like— like, a say, right?
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374. 'Cause everything you just said was like,
"I" this, "I" that.
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I take full accountability for the fact
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can I tell you something?
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- You are beautiful,
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- Thank you.
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- But you wanna find someone
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you did anything wrong in this,
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- I know.
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soul and a beautiful person, and, yeah.
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I appreciate you saying that. Thank you.
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was really, like, sitting with you
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kind of button up today?
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we had a lot of different conversations.
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that we had about contraception.
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Marissa with an ultimatum.
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didn't wanna use hormonal contraception.
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it has on a woman's body,
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try to force that upon her.
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about multiple methods.
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that worked best for us,
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I was just being whiny and bratty
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one of our former couples went on
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and, ultimately, great, great happiness.
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to welcome a baby.
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Thank you.
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so maybe we'll see a glimpse of her later.
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and our love stronger and deeper,
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that's ever happened to me.
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that name represents,
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- Yeah.
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this little bundle of joy
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doing this whole experience.
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- So we have a little look back
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how it all started. Take a look.
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your favorite song or singer or band was.
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Yeah, have you heard it?
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That's, like, my mom's song for, like, me.
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to whoever I marry.
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already a little bit crying.
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I'm listening. I'm sorry.
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she dedicated that song to me.
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from memory?
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Like, how could I not?
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her name is not Lee Ann Wombat.
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- Yeah. A little delirious…
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- But she has a good sense of humor.
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that took some effort.
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- I know, right?
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- Yeah, she sewed these little outfits
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thank you so much for being here
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to see baby Galileo later on.
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- Thank you, guys.
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let's change it over to ducks.
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Hey.
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- No? Still no.
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you were very direct.
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if looking back now, in hindsight,
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and we didn't end up working out.
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"Maybe I was a little too direct"?
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I'm very to the point.
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That's just who I am. I'm very blunt.
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come out how I think it's coming out.
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but really, I just sound like a bitch.
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So I just have to be a little bit careful.
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Even when we film,
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I need to chill sometimes.
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but it's just the way that you say it.
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to know that she's saying,
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her to say anything less.
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and I certainly respect her.
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came across not completely true.
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could've been a little bit better,
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some of the things that she was saying.
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the same level intellectually,
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financially literate, respectful.
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it back, she would tell her friends,
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I'm in love with Nick is because
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and he's respectful."
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you know, I wasn't respectful.
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you kind of watch back, and like I said,
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you know, her perspective and her opinion.
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patience that I never would've had.
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and I knew he's a good dude,
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his patience throughout the whole thing.
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he says it takes a lot of patience
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to hear that constantly?
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Like, I have a big personality.
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Like, I'm self-aware, and, like,
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you have to have a lot of patience with me
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and I'll just say things.
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of patience. Yeah, that makes sense.
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in watching it—
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that it was delivered,
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you could've worded it differently—
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530. I'm just direct.
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531. - Period.
I am, I'm very direct.
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This past year I've worked on it.
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"You could've said it a lot differently,"
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who I am, and, like, I am direct.
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I'm a bitch sometimes. I get it, I know.
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- Yeah.
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- Doubling down, that's exactly—
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and she's standing on it.
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542. I love that for you, girl.
And you look great, by the way.
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543. - Thank you. Appreciate it.
- You look great.
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- You look awesome.
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but you had a little glow up too, Hannah.
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- How's the last year been for you?
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It's been a rough year.
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- I've just been working on myself a lot,
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I had a lot of room to grow.
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to know that, right?
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when we filmed it.
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the best version of yourself.
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figuring it out, I think.
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you're loving this version of Hannah
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- Yeah, I think so. I think…
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you don't know?
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561. I don't know. I just feel awkward and
like I'm gonna cry. I don't know why.
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getting way too much hate online
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and being, you know, super transparent.
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And she's received way too much hate—
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the hate comments, then,
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I'm looking.
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but people will say mean things,
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- Yeah. So, you know—
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that but it hurts my feelings
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"Let's go through his shit."
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And his work notebook.
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579. It was just right on the table,
just like out.
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like 18th or something."
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I think it was two weeks before we left.
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before you left for the pod.
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It was like…
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he wants to sell two homes this year.
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- Wants to be in the best shape of
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which was by far the most interesting,
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person ever on Love Is Blind.
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it all fucking makes sense now."
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the end of my 90-day goals.
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it was three months before that.
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you got to get into this stuff
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he was just like, "Write down anything."
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you know, "Sell two homes",
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ten homes by that time.
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be famous off Love Is Blind.
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going to be on the show, way before.
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It's a 90-day thing.
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We had been through a couple interviews.
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from start to finish.
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- I mean, yeah.
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it's a 90-day date, a year date.
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that you come off on the experience
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on Love Is Blind.
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to some of us,
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to come on to the experience.
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person when I knew you in the pods,
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and meaningless to me.
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if she wanted to look through it, fine.
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she met my family,
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and maybe to Hannah's.
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people's genuine reasons for coming here.
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a very calculated person.
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behind my back after the reveal.
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I'm an honest person.
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a foot taller than you in that situation.
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but I felt like that in that moment.
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it isn't anything,
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like, stuff after the reveal,
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calling me ugly.
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all these things behind my back.
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he's like,
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I don't understand what's going on.
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I just didn't know what was going on.
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I was just like,
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Like, I see what this is for you."
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but, like, be so fucking for real.
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Marissa. You agree with that?
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feelings between Nick and Hannah,
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and I got to know him as,
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he was rating her and things like that.
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okay, "Was he serious about her?"
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do you mean other people in this room?
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on this couch who can also vouch.
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if you're accusing him of saying things,
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And I mean, that's—
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check and get perspective, that was—
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Was it like with Ramses maybe, Garrett?
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that he was like asking you guys
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- I never said that.
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- Did that happen, or did that not happen?
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- If you're gonna talk, be honest at least.
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- Just be honest.
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thanks for saying I was sincere
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- She wasn't saying that!
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- Yeah.
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pretty far in the process.
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you kept talking to me.
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with Hannah multiple times off camera.
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- Is it real though, Nick?
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Because then, okay, we break up.
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this past couple years is like,
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the note to production—?"
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after some girls DMing me talking about
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to fly her out for the reunion.
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- Okay.
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So don't act like this—
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- Shh! I'm going to speak.
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- I'm going to speak.
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to shit on me for no reason.
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of perspective,
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Hannah's looks at all. Right?
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- That's not true.
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- Ramses…
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and Stephen talked to me about it.
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- You did.
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about the way Hannah looked.
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- Hannah has said shitty shit
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and you have also.
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- I didn't.
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724. You literally said
she looked like a grenade.
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725. - I never said that.
- Yes, you did.
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726. - I never said that.
- You rated her five out of ten.
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727. - Yes you did.
- That's what you guys heard
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728. - from this person and this person.
- Your friends.
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729. Stephen, I don't want to bring up
bro code and any violation of bro code,
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730. but, I mean, this is clearly sounds like
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732. - Yeah.
Oh.
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733. I mean, we've got to be honest.
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734. That's why I'm protective of Hannah,
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735. because there was
a lot of other things happening.
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736. That clearly explains why she would feel
insecure in her relationship
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737. and why she would feel frustrated.
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738. I mean, yeah, you said you— you talked
about her looks in a very unkind way.
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739. When we were flying home from Mexico,
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740. you were the only one on the plane
telling strangers like,
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741. "We're here to film a show." I mean,
it was like… it was hard to watch.
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742. It didn't seem—
Like when Hannah found the note.
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743. Hannah reached out to me
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744. shortly after she found
Nick's three goals.
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745. I think the same day…
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746. - I was zero percent surprised.
- Yeah.
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747. - We weren't shocked.
- Zero percent surprised.
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748. It's just funny to hear, you know,
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749. the women kind of getting at me 'cause
I never talked to them once on the show
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750. I never told Stephen.
You know how I felt about Hannah.
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751. Stephen. He just said he never talked
to you about the grenade. Is that—
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752. He talked to me about the grenade,
but he didn't tell me
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753. about how he actually felt,
because, again, we hadn't—
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754. we had only had the reveal.
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755. - I'm sorry, I'm confused.
- But he talked about the grenade.
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756. - He said she looks like a grenade.
- Yes—
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757. But what I'm saying is, like,
as— as far as the rating scale goes,
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758. I specifically do not remember that
conversation, but I do r—
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759. There's people on the stage who do.
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760. And there's people
on this stage who would have my back
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761. and know that I'm a good guy
and here for the right reasons.
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762. I personally feel like this conversation
is extremely immature.
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763. I'm just counting the seconds
till we move past it, to be honest.
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764. Well, these are things
that we do have to talk about.
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765. Like it's uncomfortable,
but we have to talk about them.
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766. It's not that it's immature,
Garrett.
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767. Like Hannah is getting killed
on the Internet, right?
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768. Like Hannah was a bitch to Nick.
And I'm sorry for that.
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769. As her best friend,
I'm sorry that she was like that.
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770. And like, she should not—
She's been mean to me before too.
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771. - I mean, she has room to grow.
- No, I know I can be bitchy, guys!
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772. No, she can. But listen,
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773. it's not that— it's that she's—
it's all her. That it's her.
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774. It's her and it's not him,
that he's this golden retriever puppy dog.
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775. You're not Nick. Okay?
You said some mean shit.
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776. It got back. Ramses you wanna
sit there quietly? Go figure.
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777. You know what he fucking said!
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778. You know what he said.
And it's like we're gonna be
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779. the bad people for attacking
the golden retriever and it's not true.
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780. I think you should ask the source.
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781. There's so many rumors that go on,
on this show.
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782. I know exactly the scenario
where you said it because they told me.
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783. Yeah, that's your truth.
That's your perspective!
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784. - And I have my perspective of it.
- It's not perspective,
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785. - it's— okay fine.
- You saw the whole show.
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786. - They lied to me. It's fine.
- You saw the whole thing.
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787. Alex, I see you uncomfortable
over there. Did you want to say something?
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788. Oh, no, I'm fine. I just—
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789. It's just kind of baffling because we—
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790. Nick, love you, but you did not like
what Hannah looked like.
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791. And everybody knew that.
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792. - It was very clear.
- You did not have a conversation about—
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793. We all knew it.
You talked about it.
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794. So it's just kind of crazy
that you're sitting here saying that—
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795. - Who did I talk about it with?
- All right, Nick.
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796. If there's any moment to take
accountability for anything,
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797. it's right now, like everybody messes up.
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798. Everybody says things
that maybe you regret,
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799. but like, let's— let's keep it 100, man.
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800. - Like, yeah, things were said…
- Yeah.
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801. Like this is nothing like
it's not a dig against you, but like,
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802. it's, you know, this is the moment
to take accountability.
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803. - Like it's— we're not perfect.
- Yeah. I said I was underwhelmed
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804. when I saw Hannah at the reveal.
I never said she was a grenade.
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805. Or a number five. Five out of ten. Okay.
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806. Why did she invite me over a month
after the show to hang out?
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807. Because we're all human.
I was fucking that man.
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808. Like we all do crazy shit.
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809. - It's a breakup.
- If she really hates—
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810. I invited you back because
I just want to have sex with you one time,
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811. just to make sure it wasn't that bad.
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812. If she hated the type of person I was,
she wouldn't have hung out with me.
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813. She was insecure.
Clearly, she was being a bitch.
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814. You had your issues.
You were being fucking fake.
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815. Her insecurities were
getting projected on me
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816. - And you're right—
- throughout the entire show.
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817. But you also were not being 100% honest.
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818. But you were also making me feel insecure.
I do admit that I do that.
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819. - By what?
- You both were wrong in your own ways.
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820. I know, I do that, I do that.
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821. We know! You were wrong.
You were fucking wrong.
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822. - We're all wrong.
- Is that a fair way to say it?
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823. - Hey, wait!
- We can just learn!
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825. - Wrap it up, baby!
- All right.
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826. We're actually going to dive into
one of your most memorable arguments.
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827. Why not just put gasoline on the flame?
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828. This was after Nick talked to Katie.
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829. Hey, girl.
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830. One of Hannah's best friends,
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831. for what Hannah thought was just a little
too long. So take a look at this clip.
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832. Katie had came up to me
three different times tonight.
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833. My best friend told me
how attractive you were.
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834. What does that have to do with me?
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835. Just let me explain.
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836. "He's hot, Hannah."
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837. "Like I'm really into him",
shit three different times, right?
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838. - What does that have to do with me?
- And then in the same day,
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839. - you said you wanted to talk to Katie.
What does that have to do with me?
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840. And then you two get together.
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841. I have no clue what the fuck you're
saying, no clue what the conversation is.
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842. But to me, it hurts because it's like,
that's my fiancé and my best friend.
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843. Like, that's like it hurts me.
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844. At the end of the day, it's like,
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845. is that a best friend
who disrespects me like that?
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846. And is that a fiancé that disrespects me?
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847. So my question for you is you're
not secure in this. You don't trust me.
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848. - That's what it really comes down to?
It's not that I don't trust you,
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849. - it's about respect.
Do you trust me?
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850. I don't know if I don't trust you,
but I don't know if I trust Katie.
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851. Hi!
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852. What was it like watching that?
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853. That was hard… I was so excited to see
everybody, especially Marissa and Hannah.
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854. We're the trio.
They're my best friends in the pod,
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855. so I couldn't wait to see them.
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856. And then, of course,
throw me in the mix with all my exes.
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857. Hey, guys, that was fun.
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858. The last thing I wanted
to do was hurt anyone.
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859. That was never my intentions.
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860. And Nick and I talked
at the end of the evening.
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861. I had no clue how long
we were sitting there and talking.
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862. I also had no idea that Hannah was upset.
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863. Truthfully, I didn't…
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864. I thought our conversation was fine.
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865. Nick and I dated
for three days in the pods,
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866. and I never had a situation where I said,
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867. "Hey, I'm breaking up with you,
I don't want to see you ever again."
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868. We just never saw each other again.
So he had questions.
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869. And we're both charismatic people.
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870. You know, you look back and we're laughing
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871. and it looks like we're flirting.
And for the record, I said he was cute.
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872. Two times.
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873. Hot, cute, sexy. Whatever. Cute.
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874. But it's tough to hear that because
I thought Hannah knew my heart.
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875. I thought Hannah knew my intentions.
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876. When I found out how upset she was,
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877. I was sick, like sick to my stomach.
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878. I couldn't apologize more.
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879. I sent her flowers, like,
I was really unwell.
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880. And to sit on that
for a year of anxiety building up
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881. and not knowing,
like what we said or how I upset her,
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882. and then to see it back, you know,
words can bounce right off of you.
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883. But to hear, like your best friend say,
like that, she doesn't trust you.
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884. I mean, I just like, I have to ask Hannah,
like, are there weight in those words
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885. Or I know we've been past this.
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886. I know we've talked
about this to exhaustion and I love you.
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887. You know, I love you and Marissa, so much.
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888. But I have to ask, like, I just didn't—
I didn't anticipate that.
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889. Like, it's nothing against you, I promise.
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890. I said, "I don't know if I trust Katie."
I trust you, Katie.
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891. I don't know why the frig I said that.
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892. I don't know, I was just in the heat
of a moment. We were arguing.
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893. If I would have said, I don't trust you,
then he'd be like,
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894. "Well, you shouldn't trust Katie."
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895. So if I say, "I don't know, I just don't
trust Katie", then the argument's over.
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896. But like, it's not right.
I shouldn't have said that.
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897. Of course I trust you.
We've been best friends the past year.
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898. It was just that, like, you guys were
having a conversation.
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899. I had no clue
what the hell you guys were saying.
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900. Like, now that I watch it,
it's not that bad.
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901. But, like, I didn't know
what the heck was going on.
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902. So it was just
my emotions were heightened and stuff.
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903. - But Katie, I trust you.
- Thank you.
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904. - I don't know if I trust him.
- Thank you.
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905. Well, there's someone here
who might have thoughts on all of this.
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906. So let's bring them out.
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907. Please join us in welcoming our favorite
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908. ENTJ and aspiring trophy wife.
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909. Yes, I'm talking about…
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910. Leo and Brittany.
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911. - Hi, Brittany. How are you?
Hi!
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912. - Hi, Leo.
- Hi.
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913. Leo, I'm just
going to go right into it.
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914. You had a lot of conversations
in the pods,
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915. but in watching it back,
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916. did you ever realize how often
you spoke about… money?
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917. I know it seemed like
I really couldn't shut up about it.
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918. You know, we were encouraged to talk
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919. about all aspects of marriage,
including finances,
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920. and I think I overcooked it a little bit
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921. - with the money talk.
- Yeah.
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922. Yeah, I didn't realize
until I was watching it back
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923. when I was watching I thought,
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924. "Geez, this Leo guy
won't shut up about it."
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925. So I— if I could do it over again,
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926. I wouldn't have led with that so much
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927. because I wish that
they could have gotten to know me more
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928. than just, you know,
what I do and the money I have,
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929. because that's so low on the list of,
like, how I see myself.
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930. Well, you did spend a lot of time
in the lounge with the guys.
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931. You guys all, you know,
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932. got really close,
which is another thing we love.
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933. There's a brotherhood and a sisterhood
that exists that nobody will ever know.
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934. Except for all of you.
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935. But you guys and talking with Leo,
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936. what was your takeaway
from every time he would come in,
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937. whether it was trying on his Rolex
or just hearing his stories?
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938. - You're laughing, Tim.
- Yeah, I'll talk, man.
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939. Leo is a misunderstood guy.
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940. He really is. He's a high level thinker.
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941. And he processes out loud.
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942. The problem is that can get you in
trouble sometimes,
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943. especially in a medium like this.
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944. Leo has a good heart, man.
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945. He's, again, high minded.
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946. He knows his shit.
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947. On a lot of levels…
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948. He's super creative, man,
some of the bars,
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949. - y'all got a taste of it.
- Oh, yeah!
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950. This dude could out rap—
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951. You know, I ain't gonna say nothing crazy.
I don't want to get in any trouble.
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952. Don't get Kendrick on me.
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953. Hey, look, we're in LA
and I don't want no problems
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954. Man, real talk, man. Leo, he's a good guy.
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955. I can attest to
the fact that he took this seriously.
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956. I would often tell him, brother,
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957. I know that you're trying to process
and take this so seriously,
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958. but eventually you have
to make a decision.
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959. You were kind of sitting on the fence,
and you had to take the lick how you did.
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960. You know, he's got
a lot more to offer this world
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961. - than art and commentary about money.
- Thank you, man.
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962. Even though he has
plenty of that to offer, too.
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963. - Real talk. Man. I love you, brother.
- I love you, too. Thank you.
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964. Leo you said you came here
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965. - wanting a tennis doubles partner.
- Yeah.
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966. But tennis is literally
a sport where love
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967. - means nothing.
- Oh, geez!
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968. - Ironically—
- I didn't think about that.
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969. - Oh, gosh.
- Deep thoughts.
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970. Oh no, deep thoughts.
Wise thoughts in deep thoughts—
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971. In tennis love means nothing.
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972. And unfortunately, you ended up alone.
So… what?--
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973. Maybe you put it
out there with the tennis?
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974. Oh, Nick,
you certainly don't mince words.
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975. What was it like for you?
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976. And I use your words here.
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977. What was it like for you having
to decide between two amazing women?
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978. Oh, gosh. I mean,
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979. you can see how torn up
I was with the decision.
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980. And maybe this is
a bit of a goofy analogy,
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981. but you know,
when you're at a restaurant
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982. and you know you're between,
should I have the pasta or the steak?
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983. And the waiter comes to the table
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984. and he's like, "Is everybody ready to
order?" And everyone says, "Yes."
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985. And he goes around the table
and you're like, "Let me order last."
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986. And you're trying
to take every little bit of time.
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987. And I was like,
fighting for every second of time.
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988. The issue is the food has feelings.
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989. I was so wrapped up in my decision
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990. that I really wasn't realizing
how it was impacting people,
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991. how it was, you know,
what I was doing to Brittany,
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992. what I was doing to Hannah, and so…
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993. It's something
I've been working a lot on is
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994. I'm someone that likes to have control
of every situation and make decisions
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995. and I've been really trying to work on…
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996. taking other people
into consideration… with that.
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997. I actually understand what you're saying,
but I think that
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998. women probably don't want to be
associated with being steak or pasta.
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999. I'm alright with being associated
with meat, apparently… so.
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1000. Stephen, we'll get to you—
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1001. We'll get to you in a minute, buddy.
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1002. I know you're getting a little antsy
over there. Your time is coming.
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1003. - Yeah, I've been a little too chatty.
- So wait your turn.
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1004. - Don't worry.
- We've got to set the table
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1005. - for all the meals for you.
- Oh, yeah.
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1006. We have not forgotten
about you, my friend.
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1007. That's fine.
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1008. I was hoping you had,
but it's okay. I'll be here.
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1009. All right.
Well, Leo, is there anything
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1010. that you want to say
to Hannah or Brittany
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1011. about how you handled
those final conversations?
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1012. Hannah…
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1015. The amount of shame that I have,
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1016. the temper tantrum that I threw,
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1017. and then in the morning for me,
the— how delusional I was.
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1018. For me to call our breakup mutual.
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1019. Like I got dumped.
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1020. Then to put you
in this weird position of, like,
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1021. putting in a good word for Brittany that
was so weird and strange and like,
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1022. and like, I wanted— like hell would be
being locked in a dark room,
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1023. being forced to rewatch
that scene over and over again.
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1024. And honestly, Hannah, I'm so, so sorry.
You do not deserve that.
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1025. And Brittany…
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1026. I put you through a hell of a lot, too.
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1027. And I'm— I'm so sorry also
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1028. for just how—
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1029. my inability to make
a decision and just, you know,
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1030. - put you through the wringer in the pods.
- Thank you.
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1031. - Speaking of you two—
- Well, Brittany.
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1032. Brittany, let's talk a little bit
about the reveal.
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1033. There's been a lot of chatter…
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1034. about your reveal.
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1035. How did you feel watching that back?
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1036. I was hoping it would never be shown.
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1037. To be honest.
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1038. I was fully aware of how
awkward it was as I was living it.
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1039. But, you know, as I was watching it,
I was like, okay, this isn't too bad.
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1040. And then it just got worse and worse.
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1041. So… but I wasn't uncomfortable with him.
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1042. You know, I know there's
a lot of talk about, like,
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1043. him kissing me and touching me,
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1044. but he was
the most comforting part of that moment.
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1045. I was just so uncomfortable.
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1046. You're pretty used to being
on cameras at that point,
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1047. but it's like,
you know there's all eyes on you.
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1048. So I was really leaning
into him for comfort,
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1049. but still, like, this is a stranger.
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1050. I just didn't know how to—
I don't know.
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1051. Honestly, I wish he kissed me more
to shut me up
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1052. because I was filling
the blank spaces with stupid words.
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1053. So, was it a surprise to you
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1054. when you learned
that you were not going to Mexico?
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1055. No, honestly, I knew.
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1056. I really, truly knew
we were the weakest link.
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1057. - I mean, that's real.
- I never told him I loved him.
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1058. Therefore, we had alternate plans
already set up.
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1059. - Okay.
- Were you guys given a reason?
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1060. Did they explain to you why you didn't go?
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1061. Yeah… We were the weakest link.
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1062. You know, of course,
they take it seriously,
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1063. like, they follow couples that they think
are going to make it to the altar.
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1064. And we clearly did not.
So they were right.
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1065. Spoiler alert.
I was crushed.
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1066. Who doesn't want to go to Cabo
with all of your friends,
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1067. and you know,
women that you're excited to see,
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1068. that you've heard
about all of their fiancés.
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1069. But I understood
where they were coming from.
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1070. I mean, everybody
takes this really seriously,
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1071. and… I completely understood.
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1072. It doesn't mean I wasn't sad, though.
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1073. Well, a lot of viewers are dying to know
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1074. what actually happened in Miami.
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1075. And lucky for all of you,
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1076. Brittany and Leo have shared
a photo with us.
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1077. That's what matters, guys.
Diamonds and Rolexes.
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1078. We're here for dreams.
No, but seriously, in all seriousness,
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1079. you spoke about
your superpowers, you know,
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1080. my hair, my twinkly eyes.
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1081. And you finally got that back
and you were able to go to Miami with Leo.
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1082. How was that for you?
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1083. We had honestly a very good time.
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1084. I think a vacation truly is
the make or break in a relationship.
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1085. And we did not pass that test,
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1086. but we did have so much fun.
Copy !req
1087. We hung out with my best friend a lot.
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1088. She's here and she lives in Miami.
Copy !req
1089. She— all my friends love Leo.
I love Leo.
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1090. I think that's something no one really
knows is we're very good friends now.
Copy !req
1091. - We talk for hours—
- Is this the first time
Copy !req
1092. you've said, "I love Leo"?
Copy !req
1093. - On camera?
- No!
Copy !req
1094. You guys can go to Cabo now.
Copy !req
1095. - Clip it.
- Fire up the jet!
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1096. On camera! I truly do love Leo, though,
now, as a person,
Copy !req
1097. we're very, very close.
Copy !req
1098. But traveling together,
you know, there's just some quirks
Copy !req
1099. that you realize you don't—
Copy !req
1100. You're not compatible with
long term or in a romantic way.
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1101. For example, he's going to kill me,
Copy !req
1102. but he would— Whenever we had a drink,
Copy !req
1103. he would take a sip of my drink.
Copy !req
1104. No matter what it was,
Copy !req
1105. we would have the same Martini
and he would just take a sip of mine.
Copy !req
1106. And I'm like, Leo, you have your own.
Copy !req
1107. But, um…
Copy !req
1108. Why were you taking drinks
out of her drinks?
Copy !req
1109. I don't know,
I can't help myself, I just—
Copy !req
1110. Is this something
you know that you do?
Copy !req
1111. I love to share food.
I love to share drinks.
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1112. And, you know, I think sometimes
the little things really do add up.
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1113. But you knew
after that your time in Miami,
Copy !req
1114. you're like, yeah,
this is not going to work.
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1115. Yeah, but also we're such good friends.
Copy !req
1116. Like, it was never, it was like,
we really just realized
Copy !req
1117. that we were better as friends.
Copy !req
1118. And I mean, honestly, we talk about our—
Copy !req
1119. we talk about our own dating lives.
Copy !req
1120. We talk on the phone literally
like an hour a day. It's insane.
Copy !req
1121. Well, are either of you seeing
anyone today?
Copy !req
1122. I am.
Copy !req
1123. - Okay.
- That's all I will say. I am.
Copy !req
1124. Leo, are you on the market
or are you off the market?
Copy !req
1125. - I'm on the market.
- Leo is on the market.
Copy !req
1126. God— Leo, can I say something, man?
Copy !req
1127. I would have loved to have hung out
Copy !req
1128. with you in the men's lounge
for a couple of weeks.
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1129. - Yeah.
- Wow. Thanks.
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1130. Well, yeah!
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1131. - It's great to talk to you, man.
- Likewise, Nick.
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1132. Oh, man!
Copy !req
1133. Excuse me, guys,
I've had a tough time sleeping lately
Copy !req
1134. No, Alex.
Copy !req
1135. No, this is not you.
Copy !req
1136. - Oh, okay.
- My man, Stephen.
Copy !req
1137. - Hey-o!
Hey!
Copy !req
1138. Sir Sleep-a-lot. Hey!
Copy !req
1139. - What's up?
- Sir Sleep-a-lot.
Copy !req
1140. I think we are all dying to know
Copy !req
1141. what exactly was in those…
Copy !req
1142. sleep test results.
Copy !req
1143. Uh, in those
sleep test results?
Copy !req
1144. - Yeah!
… I have sleep apnea.
Copy !req
1145. Are you on the CPAP?
Copy !req
1146. No, I got cleared for one
but unfortunately, I haven't.
Copy !req
1147. Stephen, tell us what's—
what was in the text.
Copy !req
1148. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no.
They're pretty, they're pretty juicy.
Copy !req
1149. I don't remember…
I really don't, I deleted them.
Copy !req
1150. So, during a sleep study test…
Copy !req
1151. there were DMs sent—
Copy !req
1152. - Let's get to the thick of this here.
- Okay. So…
Copy !req
1153. For the respect of the individual,
Copy !req
1154. I'm not gonna go too deep into it
Copy !req
1155. because they don't need
to be brought into this.
Copy !req
1156. Well, you shouldn't have done it
on a reality show.
Copy !req
1157. You're absolutely right.
Copy !req
1158. - You're absolutely right.
- Yeah, that ship has sailed.
Copy !req
1159. - I take full responsibility for my—
- You respect that individual
Copy !req
1160. but you certainly didn't have respect
for me in that moment. So that's funny.
Copy !req
1161. You're absolutely right.
Copy !req
1162. I take full responsibility for my fuck up.
Copy !req
1163. - Do you?
- Me and Monica event talked about this
Copy !req
1164. off camera, we had a date
two weeks after we talked about it, too,
Copy !req
1165. - to sort of handle the situation.
- It wasn't a date, we went to dinner.
Copy !req
1166. Well, sorry, we met up for dinner.
I apologize. I apologize.
Copy !req
1167. We met up for dinner,
we talked about this.
Copy !req
1168. I even wrote a letter to her parents,
Copy !req
1169. - apologizing for my actions.
- Stephen!
Copy !req
1170. But did you write that letter so that you
could say that to everyone today?
Copy !req
1171. - No, I wrote that…
- Wow, really?
Copy !req
1172. I wrote that letter
because I feel bad about the situation.
Copy !req
1173. And it's a mistake
that I now have to live with
Copy !req
1174. I was, I knew you would bring that up.
Copy !req
1175. It's like, as soon as you had
the chance to.
Copy !req
1176. As soon as I got that letter,
I was like,
Copy !req
1177. "He's doing this so that
he can say it at the reunion."
Copy !req
1178. I apologize.
That wasn't my intention,
Copy !req
1179. but if that's how it came off,
I do apologize.
Copy !req
1180. I mean, at the end of the day,
if you can't trust me
Copy !req
1181. then there's nothing I can say
that can change anybody's mind, so.
Copy !req
1182. Nobody's really wanted
to listen to me from the beginning.
Copy !req
1183. - I wanna know.
- I understand that.
Copy !req
1184. I'd love to tell it. But to be honest,
I don't think anybody believes me,
Copy !req
1185. wants to hear, so at the end of the day,
why should I?
Copy !req
1186. Nobody wants to believe me.
Copy !req
1187. Nobody cares about my side of the story.
Copy !req
1188. I acknowledge one hundred percent,
that I messed up.
Copy !req
1189. I've done everything
that I thought I could do.
Copy !req
1190. I talked to my parents,
I asked them what I should do.
Copy !req
1191. I've done what I'm supposed to do.
I've read books, I go to therapy,
Copy !req
1192. I do all these things.
At the end of the day, nobody cares.
Copy !req
1193. No. Because if they did,
we wouldn't be here right now,
Copy !req
1194. having more accusations about
something that we squashed a year ago.
Copy !req
1195. But I understand
that I completely fucked up.
Copy !req
1196. How much responsibility do I have to take?
Copy !req
1197. I had a moment of weakness,
where somebody texted me,
Copy !req
1198. and they were talking
about a heart condition.
Copy !req
1199. And then immediately after that,
they go into,
Copy !req
1200. "So, I've gotten into
some interesting fetishes lately",
Copy !req
1201. understanding that
this is probably a reaction
Copy !req
1202. or a conversation
that I should not entertain.
Copy !req
1203. I was still curious
how you made this jump.
Copy !req
1204. So I said, "What kind of fetishes?"
Copy !req
1205. And then I entertained that. Yeah.
Copy !req
1206. I entertained that conversation
and I knew I shouldn't.
Copy !req
1207. And then I put my phone down
in the sleep study and I said,
Copy !req
1208. "You know what? I've done this before,
I know where it ends.
Copy !req
1209. This is the man I don't want to be.
Copy !req
1210. But I never deleted it, because to me,
Copy !req
1211. I emotionally conquered a demon
that I've been fighting for a while.
Copy !req
1212. We do have a picture,
he was at a sleep study.
Copy !req
1213. - So, that part is true.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1214. - This was from that night.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1215. But something that sticks out,
Copy !req
1216. is… Monica in the pods,
Copy !req
1217. I remember, early on,
he spoke about cheating.
Copy !req
1218. He said that I slipped into a girl's DMs.
And your reaction was surprising
Copy !req
1219. in the sense of, "I'm so sorry,
thank you for sharing that."
Copy !req
1220. But it was an interesting,
in hindsight, red flag.
Copy !req
1221. Do you think, looking now
at the situation, that maybe you had
Copy !req
1222. rose-colored glasses
Copy !req
1223. and maybe you ignored some of these signs
Copy !req
1224. because you wanted to be married
and find your person?
Copy !req
1225. Honestly, no, I don't— I don't think so.
Copy !req
1226. I think… Stephen and I's conversation
in the pod was obviously much longer,
Copy !req
1227. much longer than you all get to see.
Copy !req
1228. And that was the first of many of them.
Copy !req
1229. I've dated a lot of cheaters
Copy !req
1230. and not any one, until Stephen had been
honest about an indiscretion.
Copy !req
1231. So I very much appreciated the fact
Copy !req
1232. that he was telling me this
so early into our relationship.
Copy !req
1233. I actually saw it as… a yellow flag,
maybe not like a green flag,
Copy !req
1234. but he was being honest about it
Copy !req
1235. and he said in that conversation
Copy !req
1236. that he'd been in therapy ever since,
it was the biggest mistake he ever made.
Copy !req
1237. He was really, really hard on himself
Copy !req
1238. once he got caught, like,
you know, there was a lot
Copy !req
1239. that he did in terms of trying to do
the work and still doing the work.
Copy !req
1240. And like, I never in a million years,
Copy !req
1241. even though he shared that with me,
that he'd done it before,
Copy !req
1242. he made me feel so safe,
that when I say I never saw it coming,
Copy !req
1243. never in a million years.
Copy !req
1244. So people might watch the show
and think differently.
Copy !req
1245. There were signs there.
Copy !req
1246. Maybe we weren't
going to make it all the way.
Copy !req
1247. We certainly weren't supposed to,
that's for sure.
Copy !req
1248. But I never in a million years
would have thought
Copy !req
1249. he would have emotionally cheated on me.
Copy !req
1250. - Never.
- Do you regret it?
Copy !req
1251. Yeah! Fucking of course!
Copy !req
1252. Do you still talk
to this woman?
Copy !req
1253. I— I— This is the weird part.
Copy !req
1254. Nobody's going to believe this.
Copy !req
1255. But I only talked to her that one day.
Copy !req
1256. I've never met this girl in person.
Copy !req
1257. This is someone
that I knew through Instagram.
Copy !req
1258. Never met her in person.
Copy !req
1259. Only talked to her that one day.
Copy !req
1260. I know what
it sounds like but that's the truth.
Copy !req
1261. I haven't talked to her since.
Copy !req
1262. Monica?
Copy !req
1263. I don't know.
Copy !req
1264. I know that those texts were… very long.
Copy !req
1265. They went a ways back.
Copy !req
1266. You didn't start texting her
that day on Instagram?
Copy !req
1267. No. I've known her for years.
Copy !req
1268. I don't delete my text threads.
Copy !req
1269. And that's the other thing.
I don't delete my text threads.
Copy !req
1270. Monica knew I didn't have
a password on my phone.
Copy !req
1271. I didn't know that!
Copy !req
1272. I didn't know if you
had a password or not.
Copy !req
1273. I don't know if you had a password.
You've been saying that too.
Copy !req
1274. You should have a password on your phone.
Copy !req
1275. I didn't know.
I wasn't sneaking in your phone.
Copy !req
1276. I didn't know if you
had a password or not.
Copy !req
1277. We talked about it in the pods.
Copy !req
1278. My phone, especially in a relationship,
Copy !req
1279. is completely open to my partner because
if I'm doing something wrong,
Copy !req
1280. I deserve to get caught. 100%.
And that's essentially what was happening.
Copy !req
1281. But just stop doing something wrong.
Copy !req
1282. - You're absolutely right.
- From sleep tests…
Copy !req
1283. Hey-oh.
Copy !req
1284. …to sleeping while
the in-laws are in town.
Copy !req
1285. Oh, that transition.
Copy !req
1286. A nap landed her in the dog house.
Copy !req
1287. Woof, woof, baby.
Copy !req
1288. Woof, woof.
Copy !req
1289. - Hi, Alex.
- Hi.
Copy !req
1290. - You're looking fly.
Thank you.
Copy !req
1291. - Cut the hair.
You know, they always say
Copy !req
1292. whenever women cut their hair,
you cut off all the old energy.
Copy !req
1293. - Correct.
Hi, Tim.
Copy !req
1294. - Howdy.
You didn't cut your hair.
Copy !req
1295. No, hey.
I'm hanging on to what I got left.
Copy !req
1296. Hey, that's how I feel.
Copy !req
1297. Hey, look. Still in the fight.
Copy !req
1298. So, Alex, all joking aside,
Copy !req
1299. Tim said your argument on the Getaways
was so bad that he almost left early.
Copy !req
1300. Can you shed any more light on
what we didn't get to see on camera?
Copy !req
1301. What you didn't get to see was
a verbal disagreement.
Copy !req
1302. As you saw, I'm very close to my family.
Copy !req
1303. And my dad had been admitted to
a rehab facility a week before I left.
Copy !req
1304. And being three weeks
not talking to them, it…
Copy !req
1305. just kind of weighed in on me
at that moment.
Copy !req
1306. And I just wanted space.
Copy !req
1307. Go to bed, take a shower, go to bed.
Copy !req
1308. That's literally all I wanted to do.
Copy !req
1309. But unfortunately, I wasn't given
the space that I was wanting,
Copy !req
1310. which turned into a disagreement.
Copy !req
1311. Simple as that.
Copy !req
1312. Tim.
Copy !req
1313. First and foremost,
I don't want it to come across
Copy !req
1314. like there's any actual animosity here.
Copy !req
1315. I still wish her the best.
Copy !req
1316. There's a reason
I fell in love with this woman.
Copy !req
1317. And I acknowledge all
the beautiful things about that.
Copy !req
1318. My version of events,
Copy !req
1319. she had left before me the pool party,
so I'm trying to catch her.
Copy !req
1320. But I could tell she's upset.
Copy !req
1321. So in my head,
I'm thinking, okay, this is my fiancé.
Copy !req
1322. I want to be there for her.
Copy !req
1323. So I approach her and say,
hey, are you okay?
Copy !req
1324. What's going on?
We're in this hotel bathroom.
Copy !req
1325. Everything's been good
to this point for me.
Copy !req
1326. And you're crying on the floor,
so I'm trying to be there for you.
Copy !req
1327. I understood that she was upset about
something with her family,
Copy !req
1328. but I'm also trying to understand,
because at the same time,
Copy !req
1329. I'm trying to figure out what's going on.
Copy !req
1330. So it quickly turns contentious
Copy !req
1331. and it got to the point where,
yes, I did feel like
Copy !req
1332. things got out of hand from
a boundary standpoint.
Copy !req
1333. To where, yes, what happened with the hand
Copy !req
1334. being put over my mouth
was put over my mouth.
Copy !req
1335. Yes, I was called something other than
the name that I was given on this earth.
Copy !req
1336. I know the medium that I'm on.
Copy !req
1337. I know that I'm a 2256-foot black man.
Copy !req
1338. I don't want to get portrayed
as this angry person
Copy !req
1339. to where we are fighting
and squabbling it out on camera
Copy !req
1340. and understanding there's
producers outside the door, etc., etc.
Copy !req
1341. But also, if I'm talking
to someone I love,
Copy !req
1342. y'all hear it in my voice right now.
I can't be quiet.
Copy !req
1343. Ask me—
Copy !req
1344. I won't force my opinion on anybody,
Copy !req
1345. but don't ask me what I think
unless you want to know.
Copy !req
1346. Whatever partner I have in this world,
Copy !req
1347. I'm hoping that
they understand that about me.
Copy !req
1348. I took everything with this process
Copy !req
1349. and how I felt about her
so seriously from the jump
Copy !req
1350. and I don't want it to come across
because things ended how it did
Copy !req
1351. there wasn't something beautiful
about what connected us.
Copy !req
1352. I hate the fact that our worst moment
Copy !req
1353. is the moment everybody wants
to hear about the most.
Copy !req
1354. I will say,
I think you are definitely looking at it
Copy !req
1355. in a magnifying glass,
every single one of you.
Copy !req
1356. I know right now it feels like the world
is coming down on you individually.
Copy !req
1357. I know it's hard to see
outside of the box.
Copy !req
1358. Trust me when I tell you I know.
Copy !req
1359. But I think the reason that people do go
to that fight because A, we didn't see it.
Copy !req
1360. So all we can do is speculate.
Copy !req
1361. So thank you for clarifying some of it.
Copy !req
1362. And I will ask you because
I know you were agreeing
Copy !req
1363. and disagreeing with some of
the things he was saying.
Copy !req
1364. But B, it's because
when we watched you in the pods
Copy !req
1365. you did and are so genuine
Copy !req
1366. to the point that you talked so deeply
about things that mattered so much.
Copy !req
1367. Everyone got so invested
and it did feel as if after the Cabo trip,
Copy !req
1368. that was the moment that
it started to unravel, if you will.
Copy !req
1369. If I saw the look on Nick's face
that you had the day in Cabo,
Copy !req
1370. I would have thought he checked out.
Copy !req
1371. People say, okay, I'm checked out.
Copy !req
1372. I'm trying to process, okay,
Copy !req
1373. the person that I have been
and am being clearly is a work.
Copy !req
1374. I've never been in an argument like
that with somebody
Copy !req
1375. I consider myself loving ever in my life.
Copy !req
1376. So let me figure out what it is that
Copy !req
1377. my now fiancé needs out of me,
the version of me that she needs.
Copy !req
1378. Because I am trying to make this work.
Copy !req
1379. I just want to make it very clear.
Copy !req
1380. Nothing on my end
was physically assaulting him.
Copy !req
1381. Yeah, I'll attest to that.
I'll attest to that.
Copy !req
1382. I'm literally put in a position where
I'm trying to prevent production
Copy !req
1383. to come and see this fight,
Copy !req
1384. like this argument that we're having.
Copy !req
1385. And I don't want it to look like
we're in a bad space
Copy !req
1386. or that I don't want cameras to come
and make him look bad.
Copy !req
1387. Simple as that.
Copy !req
1388. I was trying to protect him.
Copy !req
1389. I just wanted to de-escalate
this entire situation
Copy !req
1390. so that we could just go to sleep
and revisit it in the morning.
Copy !req
1391. But now it's turned into
an assault thing, which it wasn't.
Copy !req
1392. Clearly, if you did, he would say…
Copy !req
1393. To be clear,
for everyone watching, it was no assault.
Copy !req
1394. It wasn't an assault, but
I reject you saying that I yelled at you.
Copy !req
1395. My voice carries.
I was asking you what's going on.
Copy !req
1396. Production had to come in
and calm you down.
Copy !req
1397. - No.
- You were very upset.
Copy !req
1398. - I was upset after you touched me.
- You were yelling.
Copy !req
1399. I'm not saying this to be shady.
Copy !req
1400. I was more offended at
being called outside of my name.
Copy !req
1401. What did you call him other than his name?
Copy !req
1402. Well, because he was disrespecting
me for like over an hour.
Copy !req
1403. I said, you're acting like
a little-ass bitch.
Copy !req
1404. - And I'm not taking it anymore.
- That's crazy. That's crazy.
Copy !req
1405. - That's crazy.
- That's just how it goes.
Copy !req
1406. It's crazy that you—
One, why would you say that
Copy !req
1407. to any grown man
out here trying to love you?
Copy !req
1408. And it was crazy how
you belittled me the way that you did.
Copy !req
1409. Y'all asked men to take you seriously,
and why would you belittle me like that?
Copy !req
1410. So why are you got your finger in my face
and yelling at me
Copy !req
1411. because I don't want to talk to you
because I'm upset about my father?
Copy !req
1412. Had nothing to do with you.
Copy !req
1413. At all.
Copy !req
1414. I literally just wanted to take
a shower and go to bed,
Copy !req
1415. - and that wasn't good enough.
- And you didn't say that once.
Copy !req
1416. It's never good enough.
It's always what you want.
Copy !req
1417. But when you want space, it's okay.
Copy !req
1418. But when I wanted space,
it wasn't good enough, right?
Copy !req
1419. Let's remember that.
Copy !req
1420. It's always on your terms, Tim.
Copy !req
1421. Never mine. I never get a word in.
Copy !req
1422. You just talked for
like 10 minutes in circles.
Copy !req
1423. You literally are so long-winded
and only listen to yourself.
Copy !req
1424. I'm literally being berated here.
Copy !req
1425. I'm just trying to speak my truth.
Copy !req
1426. So I can't speak my truth without
apparently yelling at you
Copy !req
1427. and getting called a bitch.
Copy !req
1428. Come on, man.
What kind of world do we live in
Copy !req
1429. where I can't speak my truth
without getting shouted all over?
Copy !req
1430. …This entire relationship,
which is why you look amazing.
Copy !req
1431. Why are you trying to come for me
when all I'm doing is showing you love?
Copy !req
1432. Why the attitude?
Copy !req
1433. Why? What did I do?
Copy !req
1434. What did I do to you?
Copy !req
1435. Okay.
Copy !req
1436. Well, look, I think it's safe to say that
he felt disrespected in that moment,
Copy !req
1437. and I think another moment we all saw
where you felt disrespected is when
Copy !req
1438. you took a nap when
his parents came to visit.
Copy !req
1439. Looking back on that,
why did you decide to take a nap,
Copy !req
1440. knowing his parents had driven all the way
to see and spend time with you?
Copy !req
1441. And do you regret maybe some of
the ways you handled that day?
Copy !req
1442. So what unfortunately has
been shown is I work so much.
Copy !req
1443. I work in fashion. I bartend.
Copy !req
1444. And that night,
I had to bartend for the first time.
Copy !req
1445. We were with his parents at like
11 a.m. until about 6, 7 p.m.
Copy !req
1446. And I had to work at 9 p.m.
at the bar till 3 a.m.
Copy !req
1447. And I simply wanted a nap
after we had lunch.
Copy !req
1448. We talked for, like, 4 or 5 hours.
Copy !req
1449. And I literally just wanted
one hour nap before I go into work.
Copy !req
1450. That's all it was.
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1451. It was the only time that I actually
bartended during our entire relationship.
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1452. Okay. Well, Tim,
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1453. I know I speak for a lot of us who watch
and are on this stage when I say that
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1454. one of the most touching moments
in the entire season
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1455. was watching
you ask Alex's father for his blessing.
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1456. And a lot of us are also having a hard
time understanding how you did that,
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1457. but then called it quits a few days later.
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1458. The engagement ended because I felt like
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1459. the level of respect that I was given
wasn't being given in return.
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1460. Every day in this process
feels like a week.
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1461. What we bonded over most
was how much we love our family.
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1462. The entire time we met, she wanted me
to show her father some respect and love.
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1463. And I wanted to respect
and love my fiancé,
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1464. so she asked me
and I showed up for her family.
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1465. Because I thought this
was going to be my family.
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1466. I was trying to give this my all
because I loved this woman.
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1468. I felt like when it was my turn,
it wasn't returned.
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1469. And she said
she has to work, which is fine.
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1470. I get it. Everybody makes a living.
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she was in the club
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1473. She didn't mention that
the day after that,
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1474. she didn't text me till ten
in the morning.
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1475. And the day I tried to warn her
about her flat tire,
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1476. she caught a flat tire even though I
tried to tell her about her tire pressure.
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1477. I'm trying to show love all day,
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1478. and you wait until the afternoon
to try to speak to me
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1479. when you say we always
have to talk on your terms.
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1480. I've been waiting all day
to hear from you.
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1481. You didn't even let me know
you made it home.
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1482. And you're supposed to be my fiancé.
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1483. So I'm not even worried
about accountability.
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1484. I'm just worried about your safety.
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1485. Okay. Alex,
you were while he was talking,
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1486. shaking your head, looking over.
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1487. There's just so many things that have
been said that are bold-faced lies.
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1488. First off, the first thing you said,
I was not out the night before.
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1489. We went to dinner at
Mi Vida the night before.
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1490. The night before we met your dad?
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1491. No, before I met your parents.
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1492. Before I met your parents,
we went to dinner,
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1494. You said I just showed up like nothing.
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1495. The night before we met your dad?
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1496. Can I speak?
Can I speak?
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1497. You're saying I'm lying
and making something up.
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1498. Can I speak?
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1499. Thank you.
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1500. When we went to meet your family,
we went to dinner before that.
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a little upset, it's because I was.
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1502. The night before, when we went to dinner,
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he met my family,
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1504. I was asking him, how do you feel?
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1505. Where's your head at?
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1506. I'm so thankful you read
that beautiful letter to my dad.
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1507. It was a very emotional day.
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1508. All the things.
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1510. I just was kind of taken aback
because I'm just like,
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1511. how do you do that whole performance
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1512. and then say, I have doubts?
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1513. My dad shook your hand and said,
I accept you as my son.
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1514. Three hours later, you say, I have doubts.
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1515. A day after that,
we're ending an engagement.
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1516. Why even get him involved?
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1517. You know how much that meant to me.
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1518. You already had these doubts.
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1519. If you had these doubts,
why did we meet my family?
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1520. That's what I had an issue with.
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1521. And to sit here and try to be like, oh,
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1522. I have so much respect for you,
but you broke up with me
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1523. because of allegedly a nap,
or I didn't do the dishes.
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1524. The hate that you projected onto me
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1525. on that breakup was mind-blowing.
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1526. I— It's like I killed your dog.
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1527. Felt like this was
a situation for you to have an out,
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1528. and you took it and ran with it.
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1529. Was this relationship real?
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1530. Do you have respect for me?
Because I don't feel like you do.
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1531. First of all, you wonder why
I don't talk to you,
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1532. but you sit here
and call me a bitch to my face.
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1533. You laugh at everything that she says.
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1534. You literally have been
laughing at everything she says.
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1535. That's disrespectful.
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1536. You have no room
to call her disrespectful.
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1537. I'm sorry.
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1538. She— she is telling— Look, I get it.
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1539. This is your version of the truth,
but I feel very attacked.
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1540. You're saying that
I didn't do something honestly
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1541. when, again, this entire time,
you were asking me
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1542. to do everything
I can for your family, so I did it.
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getting anything in return.
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1544. That entire week, I am telling you,
hey, can we work on this?
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1545. Hey, can we work on this?
We can work on this.
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1546. I felt like I was
getting nothing in return.
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1547. We were still doing work.
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1548. You just told me you had doubts
after you played in my dad's face.
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1549. - How did I play in his face?
- You played in his face.
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1550. You said you wanted to be with me,
and you had doubts the entire time.
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1551. - That was a bold lie.
- And then you fell asleep—
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1552. You were lying to him and my family.
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1553. I'm going to do this
to save both of y'all.
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1554. I think it's safe to say since you haven't
spoken in years, sorry to the audience.
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1555. I'm sure you want the juice.
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1556. I think you guys need to
speak afterwards, privately.
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1557. I don't think we do at all.
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1558. - Then there we have it.
- We haven't spoken at all.
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1559. Yeah, I don't think so at all.
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1560. She said we definitely
have heard both sides,
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1561. and I think it seals the deal how
important it is to communicate
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1562. and how important it is to be
on the same page,
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1563. and I think you guys were just
square peg, round hole, trying.
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1564. I understand if you guys
don't ever speak together again,
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to hash out personally.
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1566. Yeah, for sure.
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1567. Well, I think it's clear and obvious that
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1568. you guys have not spoken
since that day, but Alex,
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1569. what have you been up to since that day?
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1570. Catch us up on what's
been going on in your life.
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1571. Honestly, work
and really honing in on family.
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1572. Your love for your family,
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1573. as well as your love for your family, Tim,
is definitely known, and it was…
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1574. - I love your relationship with your daddy.
- Thank you.
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1575. And Tim, obviously we saw a picture of
you and Tyler and Garrett
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1576. doing a little fishing.
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1577. Did you have a chance to catch up
with any of the other guys?
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1578. Yeah, man, the boys have been the boys,
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1579. so obviously I didn't find a wife
through this process, but man,
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1580. the brotherhood
amongst the entire cast is a bond.
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1581. It's real, so it's been really nice to
just be able to text to Bohdi,
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1582. let's watch a football game,
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1583. let's hit up Ty, let's you know.
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1584. Ladies, what about you?
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1585. Do you guys keep in touch with each other?
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1586. I mean, I know three of you, obviously.
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1587. Girls trips.
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1588. - Yeah?
- Really?
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1589. What was the girls trip you guys took?
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1590. It was Deep Creek.
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1591. There was a few of us, like six
or seven of us went to Deep Creek.
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1592. Alex drove a boat.
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1593. Yeah, I got my boat license.
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1594. Alright, well some of
our former participants
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1595. definitely know what it's like
to go through this journey
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1596. and then to come out on the other side
stronger and happier than ever,
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1597. and I am talking specifically
about you, girl, Jessica,
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1598. one of our favorite brides
from season one.
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1599. Jessica, great to see you.
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1600. Thank you so much for being here.
Introduce us to your husband, please.
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1601. This is my amazing husband
and partner in life, Ben.
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1602. - Hi, Ben.
- What's up, Ben?
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1603. So how'd you guys meet?
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1604. A girlfriend of mine
was managing my Instagram,
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1605. and he slid into the DMs,
and then we met out one night,
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1606. everything went really well.
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1607. The next day, LA shut down for COVID,
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1608. so we became a quintessential
COVID relationship.
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1609. We spent all of our time together,
and dad, er, dad.
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1610. Ben is, when I met him,
was an amazing single dad,
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1611. and so I got to know his kiddos during
that time,
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1612. and we all formed
a really great family bond,
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1613. and then in 2022, we got married.
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1614. That's awesome.
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1615. Congratulations.
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1616. We actually have a video clip
from both of your wedding day.
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1617. We're going to take a look right now,
and afterwards,
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1618. we're going to be joined by
a very special guest.
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1619. So this is little Dax.
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1620. - This is Dax.
- Dax, what's up, man?
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1621. Low five. Check. Check.
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1622. High five.
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1623. Yeah!
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1624. - Oh, people.
- Yeah, lots of people.
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1625. He's just the sweetest.
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1626. We're so happy for you guys.
Congratulations.
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1627. He's good.
He's handsome.
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1628. I love dressing
the littles as, like, little men.
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1629. Like, the suits, all the things.
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1630. Well, thank you so much for bringing—
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1631. - Bye, Dax!
- See you, Dax!
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1632. - Thanks for having us.
- Ben's on Dad duty.
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1633. Thank you so much.
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1634. It's really great to see, like,
the full circle moment.
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1635. Again, AD's in
the front like, no, I'm sick.
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1636. We know that the connections formed in
the pods don't work out for everyone,
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1637. but we love keeping you all in the family,
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1638. and we've spoken to AD earlier,
so I wanna talk to Marshall and Nancy.
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1639. Hey, guys.
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1640. - Hello.
Welcome back!
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1641. - Thank you.
Thank you.
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1642. We got our OGs.
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1643. Oh, boy.
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1644. We'll start with ladies first.
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1645. Nancy, what's going on with you?
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1646. How have you been?
How's life?
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1647. What I've been up to in life,
so I moved to the best city in the world.
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1648. I moved to New York City,
and I think what was so great is that
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1649. for the first time in my life as an adult,
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1650. I made a decision to move to
a city that was for me,
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1651. not for a job,
not for a relationship, not for school.
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1652. It was, where do I wanna go?
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1653. And that was a big part of my learning
and my discovery, and I met my partner.
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1654. He is here.
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1655. He's being shy.
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1656. Well, congratulations.
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1657. Thank you.
Thank you so much.
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1658. And Marshall,
what's been going on in your world, man?
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1659. Things have been going great.
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1660. Actually, I relocated to Los Angeles.
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1661. I'm living here now,
so sorry, Zack and Bliss.
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1662. I'm no longer in Seattle.
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1663. And I am single.
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1664. I am chasing my mountaintop,
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1665. doing the things that I need to do as a,
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1666. I often say this as a man, but as a human,
as an adult, and things are going great.
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1667. I can't complain.
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1668. Well, thank you for coming
and spending the night with us.
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1669. - Absolutely.
- One of our favorite parts
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1670. about each season is meeting the families.
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1671. You guys are so brave,
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1672. and you're so incredible for sitting here
through all of this.
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1673. I would love to get
into your brain right now.
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1674. - Taylor's parents, Fong and Tom, welcome!
Hey, guys.
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1675. How was it being able to see firsthand
their love story kind of unfold?
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1676. It was exciting and very touching
that they found each other and…
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1677. …very happy.
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1678. Very happy that they found
each other and they're in love.
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1679. It wasn't the way we scripted it.
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1680. Thank you, Netflix, because all the money
I had saved for that grandiose wedding.
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1681. - Ey!
- Netflix!
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1682. Has Garrett taken
you fishing yet, though, Tom?
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1683. Am I going to start something right now?
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1684. No, but we've had
a couple golfing experiences.
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1685. I love the term experience.
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1686. Don't forget to yell fore
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1687. I know that this was
a big thing for you guys,
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1688. was where you were going to live,
and you talked about San Diego a lot.
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1689. Where are you today on
that transition as a married couple?
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1690. Right now we're living in Fredericksburg.
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1691. That's where we've been for the past year.
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1692. Now we're looking at ironically enough,
moving to D.C.
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1693. because we spent a lot of
time in San Diego
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1694. and a lot of time abroad.
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1695. Taylor and I
went through some moments where,
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1696. as you saw on the show,
it was very difficult for me to
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1697. be away from my family
and friends and to process that.
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1698. I wanted to give that to Taylor
so bad and so we tried.
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1699. We spent a lot of time away, but it was
very difficult for me to go through that.
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1700. I ended up sharing that with Taylor.
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1702. And so, her being
an incredibly understanding
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1703. and patient wife that she is,
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1704. we talked about it
and she agreed maybe
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1705. we'd do something a bit more neutral
grounds, something closer to home.
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1706. D.C. seemed like the next natural fit.
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1707. We're excited about starting a life
there together and seeing where it goes.
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1708. I'd lived in D.C. for five years and
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1709. the show had approached me
and I was ready to go home.
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1710. I figured,
this will be my last hurrah, why not?
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1711. You can clearly see
how amazing my parents are
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1712. and how I was ready to be by them, but…
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1713. when you get married you become a unit.
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1714. I love you guys so much and
I don't know what the future has, but…
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1715. home is with Garrett.
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1716. And so, I'm excited to figure out
this next chapter with you.
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1717. - Wow.
- I'm getting all choked up up here.
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1718. Me and A.D. right now.
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1719. Garrett, you mentioned that you guys have
been doing a lot of traveling
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1720. in this first year of marriage.
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1721. I think we have some footage of that.
Let's take a look.
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1722. - Hello, love.
- Hello, love.
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1723. 'Bout time for a tea and crumpet, then?
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1724. - Cherry blossoms.
- Yes!
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1725. I'm glad you cut
that 'stache off.
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1726. Well, see, okay, Tyler just said,
I'm glad you cut that 'stache off.
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1727. So, let's talk about
the glow up of Garrett.
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1728. You're going viral on the internet
right now with the hair,
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1729. with the 5 o'clock shadow,
you modeled in Fashion Week.
Copy !req
1730. Is this the wifey effect
or is this all you?
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1731. This is all Garrett for sure,
but I saw the potential first.
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1732. And I've always thought that
you were very sexy.
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1733. This is all you. You were just like,
I'm going to grow out my hair.
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1734. I've always had
a latent interest in fashion.
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1735. I think we all have lots
of different latent interests.
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1736. And being married to a very fashionable
and beautiful woman,
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1737. I don't know, it just felt like
I finally found somebody worth
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1738. looking good for,
worth paying attention to my looks.
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1739. And so, she opened up that door for me.
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1740. And we're running with it.
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the move to D.C. is imminent,
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what else is next for you guys?
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1743. What's on the horizon?
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1744. I'm going to follow him
on Instagram, I think.
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1745. You'll like it.
There's a lot of good stuff on there.
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1746. - And a vacation.
- And a vacation, yeah.
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1747. Well, I think for us,
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1748. we are people that are very rigid
and want to plan everything,
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1749. but when we let the universe open up,
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1750. we found each other, which has been
the best adventure of them all.
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1751. I think next for us is just being open
to everything and anything.
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1752. Spending more time with friends and family
now that we're a bi-coastal couple
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1753. is also a top priority for us.
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1754. I'm extremely restless when I don't know
the answer to something,
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1755. and I think I spent a lot of
the beginning of our marriage
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1756. trying to know where we're going,
what's going to happen,
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1757. and it was not easy or fun,
but once I just decided to just let go
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1758. and let us be us
and take one step at a time,
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1759. I really fell into this
and I'm really happy.
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1760. You went onto the show
without knowing the answer.
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1761. And look it led both you guys.
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1762. Well, congratulations as one of
our married couples this season.
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1763. We both look forward
to seeing you on the other side
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1764. in one of our next reunions, but I do want
to go back to our other married couple.
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1765. You guys mentioned
in Cabo a tattoo, right?
Copy !req
1766. We kind of glazed over that.
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1767. No, we haven't talked about it.
Copy !req
1768. I haven't got her name tattooed on me, but
I'm not opposed to it still to this day.
Copy !req
1769. I'm glad they brought that up.
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1770. - You forgot about that part?
- I told you about that.
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1771. I got some space for it.
We'll talk about it.
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1772. Would you really? Still on the chest?
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1773. You guys talked a lot about wanting to
start your own holiday tradition,
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1774. so with the holidays coming up,
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1775. what do you guys got planned?
What do we got in store?
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1776. - We had our first ornament that we had.
- Yeah.
Copy !req
1777. What else did we do?
We went to a cabin.
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1778. You know, one of those
little mini getaway cabins.
Copy !req
1779. We did that.
Copy !req
1780. We're going to create
a new ornament every year.
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1781. We had one last year.
We'll do one next year.
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1782. Then we'll split up with the families.
Copy !req
1783. Last year we were with
Ashley's family, which, love them.
Copy !req
1784. Took me in like I was one of their own.
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1785. Had a great time.
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1786. I think this year we'll split
between Pittsburgh and Maryland.
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1787. We have some great footage of you guys in
your last year of marriage,
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1788. so let's take a look at that.
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1789. This is Ashley and Tyler.
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1790. Feeling crazy.
Copy !req
1791. This is our matching
Copy !req
1792. Christmas pajama, Christmas-y vibe.
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1793. Him over here in his matching pajamas.
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1794. And Cobes.
Cobes, look. Look.
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1795. - A lot of kissing.
- Yay!
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1796. - Love it!
- Congratulations again.
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1797. I love seeing that. Love it.
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1798. Guys, every season we fall in love
with a new group of hopeful singles
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1799. and find so much happiness in watching
the married couples thrive
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through this experiment.
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the five-year anniversary of
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the launch of Season 8,
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1804. which takes place in Minneapolis!
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1805. Here to kick off
that season of celebration,
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1806. we have three of the Season 8
participants in the audience here.
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1807. Can you guys wave?
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1808. - Hey.
What's up?
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1809. Hi, Alex.
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1810. Oh, we got a shock over there.
I can't see.
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1811. - Brittany. Hey, girl.
Hey.
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1812. How are you? And Joey!
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1813. - What's up?
How's it going?
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1814. Again from Minneapolis.
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1815. Alex, can you wave to everybody?
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1816. - Hi.
How are you?
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1817. I'm good!
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1818. Without giving too much away,
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1820. that was having you struggle with
finding the one
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1821. that made you finally say,
I'm gonna go on Love is Blind?
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1822. I personally just prioritized
other things in my life
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1823. and work and friends and travel.
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1824. It's such a small community.
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1825. It's not like a major city,
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1826. but it's also not a small town, so…
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1827. you kind of see
the same people over and over,
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1828. and it's a small bar scene, so yeah,
I just never found the right person that
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1829. clicked for me,
but I'm excited to be here.
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1830. This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity
to really learn about who you are,
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1831. how you communicate,
and how well you work in a relationship,
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1832. and I know I've taken a lot of those
lessons into my marriage
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1833. and just into life itself,
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1834. so I would say just jump in
and be yourself and good luck.
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1835. We'll see.
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1836. I'm not gonna let it go.
It's time to wrap it up.
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1837. Right, Marissa?
Right, Ramses? No?
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1838. Okay, anyways, I want to thank so much
our Season 7 cast for being here,
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1839. being open, being vulnerable, being true.
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1840. I want to thank our parents for coming.
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1841. Thank you for spending the time with us.
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1842. Minneapolis Season 8 for coming.
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1843. Our OGs, we always love you.
You're family for life.
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1844. And thank you to everyone watching.
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1845. Yet another memorable journey.
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1846. And once again,
thank you to the Washington D.C. crew
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1847. for taking this leap
and opening your hearts to us all.
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1848. - Thank you guys so much.
- Good night, everybody.
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1849. Good job, guys.
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1850. Does anybody have a toast?
Where's Leo?
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1851. I'm so sorry, Leo,
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1852. I think you need to take a sip out of
Brittany's drink first, right?
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1853. Oh.
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1854. All right, here we go.
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1855. At the reunion, we'll all have some fun.
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1856. To Love is Blind.
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1857. We've all had our time.
Cheers, everybody.
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1858. Cheers!
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1859. Thank you so much for coming.
Good night.
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