1. In the criminal justice system
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2. sexually based offenses are
considered especially heinous.
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3. In New York City,
the dedicated detectives
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4. who investigate
these vicious felonies
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5. are members of an elite squad
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6. known as
the Special Victims Unit.
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7. These are their stories.
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8. More blood.
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9. Turn them down.
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10. Floor's clean this way.
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11. Elliot...
What have you got?
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12. Print on the wall.
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13. Psst! Psst...
something on the door.
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14. It's locked.
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15. Don't hurt me! Don't hurt me!
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16. Patrol got the call
at 9:50 A.M.,
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17. passerby saw a broken window,
open door, thought it might
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18. have been a break-in
till they heard shots fired.
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19. We found two dead kids
in the gym,
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20. naked except
for shoes and socks.
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21. Elliot's inside.
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22. Hey, they get
the shooter yet?
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23. Negative, your guy
just called
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24. for ESU and HNT.
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25. HNT. Bastard's got a hostage.
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26. Let the boy go and we can talk.
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27. We're not going to hurt you.
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28. I repeat, we're not going to
harm you, just let the kid go!
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29. Any other exits?
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30. I don't know.
Where's HNT?
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31. On their way.
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32. My name is Elliot.
What's your name?
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33. Look, send out the kid,
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from the door...
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35. Got the kid.
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36. Shooter's gone!
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37. Might have gone out this way.
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38. Where are you hit?
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39. My head.
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41. Everything's going to be fine.
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42. Stay with me.
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43. Gunshot wound
to the head.
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44. Kid is passed out.
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45. Manhattan SVU,
we got a teenage boy,
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put a rush...
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48. and NBC
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49. No luck?
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50. Lady saw a tall
white guy running,
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51. he' jumps into a car
a block away.
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52. Make, model?
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53. Black or blue or
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54. green, maybe. Any
word on the kid?
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55. Elliot called.
Kid is still
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56. unconscious, but the bullet
only winged him.
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57. Teacher lives close by, came in
when he heard the sirens.
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58. Says the boy's
name is Joe Blaine,
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59. ID'd the victims as
Luke Rhodes and Tyrell Dent.
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60. School basketball stars.
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61. Patrol's informing the families.
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62. Takes hazing
to a whole new level.
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63. What were the kids doing
here on a Saturday anyway?
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64. Patrol found
a basketball outside.
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65. Probably shooting hoops.
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66. Killer came up, broke a window,
and forced them inside.
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67. Captain...
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68. Hector Recincto,
school security.
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69. There's a gun missing.
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70. Where from?
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71. My lock-box.
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72. I confiscated it
from a student Friday.
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73. Patrol was going
to pick it up Monday.
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74. What's the student's name?
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75. Derek Fowler.
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76. He's in the same grade
as these boys.
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77. Police!
We have a search warrant!
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78. Hands where we
can see them!
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79. What'd I do?
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80. Name!
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81. Randy Fowler.
I'm clean,
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82. ask my P.O.
Shut up.
Where's Derek?
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83. In his room.
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84. Don't go smashing
down his door.
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85. What the hell?
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86. Where's the gun, Derek?
What gun?
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to school on Friday.
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88. School pigs took it off me.
Kicked my ass out.
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89. You stole my gun,
you little prick?
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90. I was going
to tell you, Dad.
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I was showing off.
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92. Where were you
this morning?
Shut up, Derek.
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93. You don't have to say anything.
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94. That's right, listen
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96. You can spill your guts
at the precinct.
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97. The kid usually
lives with mom.
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98. He's been suspended twice
for bringing knives to school.
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99. Now he's graduated
to guns.
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100. School expelled him,
maybe he decided
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102. Or maybe one
of the dead boys
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and turned Derek in.
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104. I checked
dad's movements.
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105. He was drinking
his breakfast
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at the local bar.
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107. That gives Derek
plenty of time
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108. to go out and do his thing.
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109. M.E. says that there's no hairs,
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110. no fluids on the victims,
so no DNA.
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111. No sexual assault?
Doesn't look like it.
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112. Well, our perp gets
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113. his kicks out of killing.
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114. He could've made those kids
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115. strip just to humiliate them.
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116. That was Elliot.
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117. Joe Blaine is awake.
Get down there.
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118. Show him an array.
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119. See if he picks out
our little buddy in there.
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120. Joe, do you recognize
any of these faces?
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121. He went to my school.
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122. Did he hurt you?
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123. You can do this, honey.
You can help them.
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124. How'd you get inside?
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126. He made me do it.
I cut my hand.
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127. And who is he?
Do you know him?
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128. He has a gun,
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129. he has a gun...
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130. oh boy, oh boy,
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131. he's shooting,
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132. bang, bang...
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133. It's okay.
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134. Tell them what you saw.
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135. I can't.
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136. Did you see his face?
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137. No, no, no...
I don't want to.
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138. You're a really
talented artist, Joe.
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139. I bet you could draw
his face.
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140. I don't remember.
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141. Think back.
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142. He dragged you
to the boiler room,
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144. I know you can do this, Joe.
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145. Just give us his face,
that's all we need, just give us
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146. his face.
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147. Sure I know him.
George Waddell.
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148. He's the janitor here.
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149. What kind of guy is he?
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150. He's got a temper.
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151. Some kids messed
with him last week,
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153. George went after them
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154. with a mop.
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155. And, uh, what kids were these?
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156. There was
a bunch of them,
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157. but you know who started it?
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158. The kids that got shot,
Luke and Tyrell.
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159. Call's gone out.
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160. Now you said you kept
the gun in a lock-box?
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161. Yeah, we confiscate a gun
it goes in here
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162. till the cops come pick it up.
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163. Who else has the key?
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164. Only me.
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165. And you keep it
with you at all times?
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166. Of course. I keep
a spare set hidden back here.
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167. Nobody ever
comes around this side.
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168. Except for the janitor.
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169. We know you went
to the school today, George.
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170. On Saturday?
Why would I do that?
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171. 'Cause you wanted a rematch
with those kids
that pissed you off.
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172. No, sir, they were just
having a little fun with me.
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175. Strip 'em naked? Embarrass them
like they embarrassed you?
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176. No way.
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177. You killed
these kids, George.
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178. Whoa! I didn't
kill nobody.
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with the gun you lifted
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I didn't shoot
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a lot about it.
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183. I'm not saying anything else.
I wasn't at the school.
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this puts you there.
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185. Joey Blaine drew that,
after you tried
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through his skull.
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188. You stole the gun,
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into the boiler room,
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then you tried to kill Joey.
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193. So if I locked myself in,
how come I'm not still there?
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194. You went out
through the window.
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out of that window.
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196. I did.
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197. Look, man.
I got emphysema.
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out of there. Not me.
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200. Well, he could be
telling the truth.
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201. It would have taken
half-an-hour
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202. for that wheezer George
to get out that window.
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203. So how'd he get out?
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204. Detectives. We got
ourselves a puzzle.
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205. Fire a gun in here,
ricochet heaven.
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206. If we trace
the bullet backwards,
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208. the base of the wall.
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211. after it first hit that pipe.
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212. The bullet impact mark
is a perfect circle,
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which doesn't make sense.
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215. Unless Joe struggled
with the shooter
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to fire straight up in the air.
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217. Could be the reason why
the bullet only grazed
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219. Possible.
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220. How you doing on prints?
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221. We've got hundreds.
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222. At least the kid's
are easy,
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223. there's blood all over them.
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224. Sprayed amido-black
to bring them up.
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225. Did Joe leave his prints
on the inside door lock?
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226. Yep. Shooter must've
made him shut it.
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227. So what if the kid and the
shooter are the same person?
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228. Joe comes in here,
he runs to the window,
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he hears us on the outside,
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230. he put the gun to his own head,
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bullet goes straight up.
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232. He's bleeding, he panics,
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233. so he looks for a place
to hide the gun...
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236. who did it?
Where's Joe?
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237. In his room.
Why?
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239. Tell me.
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240. Tell me!
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Open up.
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doing with guns?
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hurt him!
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247. I don't know.
He was just here.
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248. I guess that's one window
he could get out of.
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249. Elliot...
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two bodies on the floor,
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the whole damn thing.
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someone tried to shoot him,
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to come back and get him.
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guy with a gun.
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262. Nope. Drawing is
an outlet for Joey.
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not what he did.
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he's been depressed recently,
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he'd gone, until
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busting in.
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that he would go to?
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287. No. It's just Joe and me.
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on us three years ago.
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pick out Luke and Tyrell?
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290. Because they're athletes.
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of the school.
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He's socially awkward.
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293. He's been teased and bullied.
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294. After years of humiliation,
he snaps.
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295. Like Eric Harris
at Columbine.
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shouts, "All jocks stand up,"
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298. This model citizen
has a confession to make.
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300. I gave Joey the gun.
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301. Tell them why.
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302. He's always getting picked on.
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the other kids.
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it was loaded, man.
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I never would have...
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306. Yeah, right.
Thank you.
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307. We got the LUDS from Moms.
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308. Two hours after Joey
left the hospital,
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to MetroNorth line,
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311. Computer logged your boy's call
at 4:05 p.m.
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the menu choices he made.
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314. Let's see.
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315. He checked the schedule
for trains
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was at 5:35 p.m.
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318. So my boys here checked
today's cameras from 4:30 on.
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320. Look, kind of hard
to miss, isn't he?
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state troopers.
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the upper level.
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from the lower level.
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328. Not in that direction.
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330. Staying in the city,
not leaving it.
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331. Well, that kid's
not smart enough
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for a ride.
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away with this.
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got into serious trouble,
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339. Yeah, you do.
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340. You'd hire the best lawyer
that you could,
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to keep their mouth shut.
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Elliot.
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she's doing right.
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into a cab
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Sandra off here.
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her on foot.
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Don't move.
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364. Let's see the hands!
Up, up!
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Come on.
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Talk to me. Talk to me!
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Sandra.
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It's my fault!
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happening? Mom!
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I was.
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after your bus trip
to Phoenix, Arizona?
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I'm trying to protect my kid!
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Luke and Tyrell?
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you went to school with them.
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trouble here,
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to help yourself.
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I want my pen!
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also do this?
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to answer that, Joe.
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Didn't draw that!
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Stop!
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take it easy.
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Hey, relax.
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This boy is sick.
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to kill you!
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that he's not competent
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a psychotic break.
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before he killed those two boys?
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his school reports.
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irritability,
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signs of depression.
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Attention Deficit Disorder.
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into murderers.
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seen his journals.
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fantasy life.
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tipped fantasy into reality.
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that he's Zoltar?
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from a Special Ed class
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a question,
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and barked like a dog.
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he was a dog? No.
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blowing off steam.
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activity to release his anxiety,
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441. and that's what Zoltar does
for Joe.
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what made him turn violent?
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gave him a gun.
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to trigger a psychotic episode.
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uh, lack of sleep,
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for the two kids he killed.
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465. I get bad dreams.
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466. Are you taking
any pills, Joe?
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467. I don't want to.
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468. It's okay.
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469. Why don't you want to take
the pills?
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470. 'Cause it puts voices
in my head.
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471. I can't hear anything else.
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472. They're talking so loud.
They're screaming!
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473. Stop! Please tell them to stop.
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474. Please, stop it!
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475. Please tell them to stop!
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476. Okay. Shh...
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477. Please!
Please, stop it!
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478. Joe... what are the voices
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479. telling you?
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480. They're telling me
to do things.
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481. You mean Zoltar?
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482. No one messes with Zoltar.
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483. Kids mess with you?
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484. All the time.
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485. They laugh at me,
they pull down my pants,
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486. they call me a shrimp.
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487. But Zoltar punished them.
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488. With a gun.
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489. They're running,
and I'm shooting.
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490. There's blood everywhere,
but they just won't die—
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491. not till I get close.
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492. Bang! Bang!
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493. They finally stop.
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494. I heard sirens.
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495. I ran to hide.
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496. I went to the boiler room,
but the window is too high.
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497. So I put the gun to my head.
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498. I don't remember any more.
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499. Can I see my mom now?
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500. Well, there's
your confession.
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501. You want to try him in
Family or Criminal Court?
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502. He's only 13,
but the murder was premeditated.
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503. The DA will insist
on charging him as an adult.
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504. We'll arraign on Monday.
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505. Barry!
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506. Alex, great to see you.
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507. What are you
doing here?
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508. Mr. Moredock has
taken Joe's case.
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509. But this is a murder case.
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510. There's no constitutional
issue here.
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511. Really? What about
the freedom
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512. to refuse medication?
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513. Fourteenth Amendment
guarantees
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514. the right to privacy.
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515. What are you talking about?
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516. It seems Joey's school
made him take Aptril,
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517. a psychotropic
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518. antidepressant.
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519. That's your defense?
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520. Some pills made him do it?
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521. Barry, he confessed to killing
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522. two of his classmates.
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523. You're wasting
your time
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524. and Mrs. Blaine's money.
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525. Mr. Moredock is doing this
for free.
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526. Before you
scoff, Alex,
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527. consult the Physicians'
Desk Reference
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528. for the known side-effects
of Aptril:
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529. abnormal dreams, anxiety,
insomnia...
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530. I suffer from anxiety
and insomnia.
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531. I don't go out and shoot people.
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532. Pleased to
hear it, Alex,
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533. but you should also look
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534. at the National
Drug Administration's
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535. labeling enclosure for Aptril
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536. which lists mania
as one of its side-effects.
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537. How can you try a child
for murder
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538. when he's got this poison
running through his system?
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539. How did you get so well-briefed
on the subject?
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540. You can thank the doctor
who called me about this case.
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541. What doctor?
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542. What were you thinking,
turning this case over
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543. to Barry Moredock?
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544. I'm concerned
about Joe Blaine.
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545. I knew Moredock
would share my concerns.
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546. So it wasn't enough you
had to call him in,
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547. you also handed
him his defense.
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548. I'm not against the use
of psychiatric drugs
to treat children.
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549. I just don't think
they should be used
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550. as an instrument
of school policy.
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551. Then publish an article.
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552. You had no business
interfering in my case.
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553. Thousands of children
are being forced
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554. to take powerful drugs without
psychiatric supervision.
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555. Before you crucify
Joe Blaine,
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556. maybe you should hear what
your detectives found out.
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557. What, now you're working
on Joe Blaine's defense, too?
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558. Alex, you weren't there—
this kid is seriously troubled.
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559. We spoke to his
school counselor.
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560. She said that Joe was
exceptionally creative
yet extremely disruptive.
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561. They suggested counseling,
medication,
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562. but Joe's mother
always resisted.
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563. Well, she said he
was special, needed
special treatment,
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564. so in the end, the
school insisted that
he go see their shrink.
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565. So that's who prescribed
Joe the Aptril?
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566. Apparently not—
Mom wanted
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567. a second opinion, so they
went to go see a Dr. Engles.
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568. All right.
Find out when Dr. Engles
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569. started Joe on the Aptril.
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570. Then I can decide
if I should take this defense
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571. as seriously as
Dr. Huang seems to.
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572. Come on, Detectives,
you know I won't discuss
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573. a patient with you.
Fine, then we
won't discuss him.
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574. Just tell us what
you prescribed.
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575. That amounts to the same thing
and gets the same answer: no.
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576. Your patient just shot and
killed two of his classmates.
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577. The shooting at I.S. 41,
that was Joe?
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578. Yeah.
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579. Did you prescribe
the happy pills?
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580. I didn't prescribe
him anything.
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581. Well, he said he
was taking Aptril.
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582. He didn't get
it from me.
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583. Well, he and his mother
came to see you.
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584. And agreed to try
a course of psychotherapy.
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585. I thought Joe was bright
and willing enough
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586. to be treated by therapy alone.
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587. Obviously you were wrong.
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588. We'll never know.
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589. After the second session,
Joe's mother called
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590. and said I was not on her HMO's
list of approved doctors,
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591. and they were
refusing to pay for
the therapy sessions.
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592. Would the HMO have paid
for the meds?
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593. Of course.
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594. Therapy takes countless hours,
costs thousands of dollars.
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595. Prescribing meds
costs a fraction of that
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596. and takes five minutes.
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597. Okay, so why not
prescribe the Aptril?
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598. It's a standard medication
for children with depression,
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599. but I avoid prescribing meds
if I can.
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600. Why?
Because, frankly,
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601. we still don't
understand...
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602. what impact these powerful drugs
have on developing brains.
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603. So this whole drug defense
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604. is a fake?
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605. Joe's mental problems
aren't a fake.
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606. Both doctors who saw him
agreed he was depressed.
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607. Moredock can hardly
blame Aptril if Joe
wasn't even taking it.
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608. E.R. faxed over Joe
Blaine's tox screen.
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609. Negative for narcotics
and alcohol
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610. but not for
phenyl oxypropylamine.
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611. Aptril.
That's the baby.
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612. How recently
did he take it?
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613. Well, based on
the plasma concentration,
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614. M.E. says he took a pill about
24 hours before the shooting.
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615. But if a doctor didn't prescribe
Aptril, then how did Joe get it?
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616. I mean a 13-year-old kid
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617. can't just buy it
over the counter.
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618. He might've got it
from school.
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619. What do you mean?
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620. Well, you got millions of
kids taking psychiatric meds.
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621. School nurse stations
have more drugs than
some hospitals.
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622. They're not handed out
like candy.
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623. Good as.
And the drugs are being traded.
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624. I've heard of college students
snorting Ritalin
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625. just to help them
get through exams.
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626. Or to get a good buzz—
they're too stupid
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627. to know they're burning
their own brain out.
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628. Well, I know one person
I could ask.
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629. Did Dr. Engles
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630. give you the Aptril?
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631. I didn't want it.
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632. He said I'd feel better
just by talking.
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633. But you stopped
seeing him
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634. after two sessions.
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635. Did you go see another
doctor after that?
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636. No.
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637. All right.
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638. Did a school nurse
give you the meds?
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639. Is there a purpose to this
fishing expedition, Alex?
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640. Well, if you and
Joe are claiming
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641. that Aptril made him a killer,
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642. I think we should know
where he got it.
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643. Joe?
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644. I don't know.
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645. Well, if you
won't tell me,
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646. I can only assume that
you got it yourself.
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647. Maybe you bought it
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648. from a kid at school.
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649. Maybe from the janitor,
George Waddell?
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650. I'm not sure
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651. what you're trying
to achieve here.
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652. I think it's
pretty clear.
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653. No doctor prescribed
the Aptril.
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654. Joe took it himself—
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655. not because he wanted
to get better
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656. but because he wanted
to feel good.
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657. If that's the best
you can do, Alex,
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658. I think we're going to have
a nice, short trial.
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659. Let's go, Joe.
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660. Serotonin is one of the brain's
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661. chemical messengers—
it governs our moods.
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662. If it's reabsorbed
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663. into the brain too quickly,
people can have feelings
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664. of depression,
worthlessness, fatigue.
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665. And reuptake inhibitors,
such as Aptril,
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666. can block this reabsorption?
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667. Yes. They boost
levels of serotonin,
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668. and it can
relieve depression,
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669. giving a sense
of general well-being.
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670. Thousands of lives
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671. have been improved
by the drug.
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672. So what's the bad news?
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673. In an FDA-approved
trial of Aptril,
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674. its maker, Tauscher-Leto,
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675. found that a significant
percentage— 1.8% in fact—
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676. of those taking the drug
suffered a manic reaction.
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677. How many people
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678. might be prone
to this "manic reaction"?
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679. Current estimates
are that between
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680. three and four million
children and adolescents
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681. currently take at least
one psychiatric drug.
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682. 1.8% of that number?
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683. That's... that's between
50,000 and 70,000, huh?
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684. Yes.
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685. So between 50,000 and 70,000
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686. children and adolescents might,
at any time, be subject
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687. to these manic reactions,
might feel omnipotent,
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688. invincible... violent?
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689. Yes.
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690. Thank you, Dr. Petrus.
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691. Dr. Petrus,
as a child psychologist
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692. and psychopharmacologist,
you must be very familiar
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693. with FDA-approved drug trials.
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694. Yes.
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695. This trial that you quoted,
how many people were involved?
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696. I mean, actually
taking Aptril?
Uh, 190.
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697. 190. That doesn't seem
like a very large number.
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698. Was that the only trial
that Tauscher-Leto did?
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699. There were others.
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700. And did they get the same
incidence of manic reaction?
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701. No.
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702. Isn't it true that in order
to have reliability,
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703. a scientific experiment
must be capable
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704. of being replicated?
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705. Yes.
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706. Yet the results of this trial
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707. have not been repeated.
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708. There is a wealth
of anecdotal evidence...
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709. Dr. Petrus,
I thought you were here
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710. as a scientist,
not a storyteller.
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711. Your Honor...
Nothing further.
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712. It was like I was in a red fog.
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713. The blood was pounding
in my ears.
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714. The medication made
you feel this way?
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715. Yes. Like nothing
could stop me,
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716. nothing could hurt me.
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717. So you killed those boys.
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718. Yes.
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719. And afterwards,
how did you feel?
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720. Like I wanted to die.
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721. I put the gun to my head,
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722. but my hand was shaking
too much.
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723. Did you want to take
this medication,
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724. this, uh, Aptril?
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725. No.
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726. I didn't want everyone to know
I was such a screwup.
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727. But still, you took it.
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728. Why was that?
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729. 'Cause if I didn't, they said
I'd have to leave my school.
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730. Thank you, Joe.
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731. Joe, did you do
this drawing?
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732. Did you draw this?
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733. Yes.
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734. Dead bodies
in a gym,
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735. a masked man with a gun.
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736. What does it mean?
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737. Nothing. It's just a drawing.
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738. When did you draw it?
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739. I can't remember.
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740. Well, you dated it, Joe—
it's July 4.
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741. That's two months
before you were referred
to the psychiatrist.
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742. So doesn't that mean
that you had thought
about the shooting,
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743. planned it, even,
long before anyone
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744. ever mentioned Aptril to you?
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745. Objection.
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746. Are the boy's
creative processes
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747. on trial here, Your Honor?
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748. Overruled. Answer the question.
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749. I thought about it...
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750. but I never
would've done anything,
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751. not without the drug.
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752. Who prescribed Aptril
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753. to you?
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754. I-I can't remember.
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755. You can't remember
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756. because no one prescribed it to.
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757. Who gave it to you?
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758. I don't know.
You said
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759. you didn't like Aptril, you
didn't want to take Aptril—
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760. how could you not know
who gave it to you?
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761. I told you, I don't know!
The truth is, you did
want to take Aptril.
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762. You wanted to find out
how it made you feel?
No!
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763. And the reason
that you can't tell us
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764. where you got it
is because you bought it
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765. or you stole it at school.
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766. No! Stop it!
Well, then how
did you get it?
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767. Stop it!
Tell me.
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768. Tell me, Joe,
where did you get
Stop it!
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769. the medication?
Stop it!
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770. Leave him alone, okay?
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771. Just leave him alone.
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772. I gave it to him. Okay?
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773. It was me.
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774. Sandra, why did you
lie to us?
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775. I told Barry Moredock.
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776. He said Aptril was the issue,
not where it came from.
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777. So it was your Aptril?
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778. Prescribed by a doctor?
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779. No. It came in the mail.
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780. You sent off for it, ordered it
on the Internet, what?
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781. No, it just arrived.
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782. It arrived just like that? When?
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783. Right after I'd
heard from my HMO
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784. that they weren't going to pay
for Joey's therapy.
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785. I just started a new job...
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786. and Joey was causing
all sorts of trouble at school,
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787. and I kept getting
these phone calls.
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788. My boss was on my case.
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789. And his counselor calls
and tells me
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790. that they're going to expel him
if I don't medicate him.
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791. And then this package arrived...
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792. with the Aptril.
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793. Just the Aptril?
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794. No letter, no nothing?
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795. No, there was a letter.
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796. This is on Tauscher-Leto
letterhead,
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797. signed by a Dr. Carl Medwin.
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798. Who's he?
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799. That's my doctor
from about three years ago.
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800. Well, he recommends
you try
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801. this new weekly version
of Aptril.
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802. Had he ever prescribed Aptril
to you before?
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803. Yes. I got depressed
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804. when my husband walked out.
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805. It helped me.
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806. So that makes it okay
to give it to Joe
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807. even though
he didn't want to take it?
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808. I love my son. Okay?
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809. I would never do anything
to hurt him.
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810. He was going to get
thrown out of school,
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811. and I was going to lose my job.
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812. So you forced this stuff
on your son
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813. so you could get to work
on time?
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814. No!
Did you talk
to a doctor
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815. or a nurse or anyone?
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816. Yeah, doctors, teachers,
the psychiatrists—
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817. everyone said he should be
on the Aptril.
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818. So why didn't you get a doctor
to prescribe it?
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819. Because I didn't want him
to get labeled.
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820. You know, those records, they'll
follow you your whole life.
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821. I came home from work one day,
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822. and there it was,
sitting on the stoop:
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823. Aptril, like some kind of gift
from God.
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824. I gave it to him—
I thought, you know,
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825. it'll make him better.
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826. No one will know,
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827. and everything would be okay.
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828. The pharmacy that sent
Sandra the Aptril
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829. says it was legitimate:
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830. a licensed physician
signed the prescription,
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831. all they did was
mail out the meds.
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832. But is there a crime here?
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833. Well, it's pretty sleazy.
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834. Sending powerful prescription
meds through the mail blind
Copy !req
835. is more than sleazy.
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836. Tauscher-Leto
just gave me
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837. the run-around.
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838. The spokesman for
the CEO Dean Reynolds
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839. categorically denies
that his company would ever
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840. engage in
any unsolicited mail-out
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841. of their fine
pharmaceutical products.
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842. So how do they
explain the use
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843. of their letterhead?
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844. Ah, yes,
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845. a rogue sales agent
who will be disciplined
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846. as soon as he's identified.
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847. They didn't send this stuff out
of the goodness of their hearts.
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848. They were marketing it to people
they knew might use it.
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849. It's your call, Counselor.
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850. I don't think a doctor would
sign a letter to a patient
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851. he hasn't seen
in over three years
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852. without some kind of incentive.
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853. Let's find out
who was paying Dr. Medwin.
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854. It's my signature,
but I didn't write the letter.
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855. Did you even read it?
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856. Not until now.
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857. You know, Doctor, aren't you
the least bit pissed-off?
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858. I mean, they could have used you
to advertise crack cocaine
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859. and you wouldn't
have had a clue.
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860. The Tauscher-Leto
sales rep
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861. told me the letter would be used
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862. to market an improved
weekly form of Aptril,
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863. and that samples would be sent
only to those of my patients
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864. who had already
taken the drug.
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865. Right. How many of these
letters did you sign?
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866. Maybe two dozen.
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867. Did you also
give the company
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868. copies of your
patient lists?
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869. Only those with a history
of depression.
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870. With or without
their consent?
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871. I did not consult them.
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872. Oh, what the hell.
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873. You make a couple easy bucks
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874. off their medical problems,
right?
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875. I got paid nothing.
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876. They guaranteed a
three-month supply
of essential drugs
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877. for my clinic.
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878. Most of these patients
have no insurance.
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879. If I don't help them,
no one will.
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880. So you made a deal
with the devil.
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881. If it means giving
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882. poor patients the medicine
they can't afford, then yes.
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883. Anyway, Aptril is
a well-established drug
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884. with an excellent record
for treating depression.
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885. So what harm could it do?
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886. That's what one
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887. of your patients
who received it thought.
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888. So she gave the Aptril
to her son,
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889. who had a psychotic episode
and shot
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890. two of his classmates.
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891. Oh, my God.
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892. What's the name
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893. of this Tauscher-Leto sales rep?
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894. Jane Wellesley.
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895. Ms. Wellesley?
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896. Yes?
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897. I'm Detective Stabler, NYPD.
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898. This is Assistant District
Attorney Alexandra Cabot.
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899. I'm sorry, I have
nothing to say.
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900. How do you know
what we're going to ask?
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901. Why did you send prescription
drugs through the mail?
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902. I've told you, I
have nothing to say.
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903. Did Tauscher-Leto
know what you were doing?
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904. Please, you're
in my way.
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905. These your kids?
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906. Give me that!
How would you feel
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907. if someone sent a package of
prescription drugs to your home
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908. and your girls
opened them
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909. and decided to give them a try?
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910. That would never happen.
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911. Well, something very much
like it did happen.
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912. Every sample we sent out was
to a carefully selected patient
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913. with a genuine need,
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914. together with a letter
giving precise instructions.
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915. Well, not precise enough,
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916. otherwise a 13-year-old
wouldn't have taken them
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917. and executed
two of his classmates.
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918. I have an appointment.
Excuse me.
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919. Did you say
"we sent out"?
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920. So it wasn't just you.
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921. Tauscher-Leto did know.
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922. I need your advice.
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923. Lie down on the couch.
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924. Not that sort of advice.
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925. What's up?
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926. I think that Tauscher-Leto's
direct marketing tactics
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927. were responsible
for Joe's manic episode,
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928. which led to his shooting
Luke and Tyrell.
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929. The company disclaims
all responsibility.
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930. All the sales reps
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931. are taking the Fifth.
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932. The trial re-starts tomorrow
and I think I'm going to win
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933. and I'm...
I'm not sure I want to.
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934. Then plead Joe out.
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935. How does that get justice
for Luke and Tyrell?
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936. It doesn't.
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937. You can't help them,
but you can help Joe.
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938. Plead him out
and he'll get time
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939. in a psychiatric
institution
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940. where his treatment
will be decided by
doctors,
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941. not insurance
and drug companies.
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942. That's justice.
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943. Your expert witness
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944. imploded on the stand,
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945. and Joe's drawings show
clear intent to kill.
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946. Take the deal.
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947. I think I'd rather
take the win.
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948. All right, let's
say you do win
and Joe walks.
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949. What happens then?
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950. What do you mean?
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951. Sandra, you do acknowledge
that Joe has problems.
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952. Yes. They're not
all his fault.
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953. But they are the
reason that we're here.
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954. If Joe is released,
then what happens?
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955. He is dumped right back
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956. into the same
hopeless situation:
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957. HMOs that won't pay
for his treatment,
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958. schools that demand
he go on medication.
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959. How is he ever
going to get better?
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960. What do you propose, Alex?
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961. Joe pleads guilty
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962. to manslaughter.
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963. He goes to a
psychiatric
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964. institution where he
gets the proper treatment.
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965. Do you understand
what she's saying, Joe?
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966. Yes.
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967. You have to decide
what you want to do.
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968. Wait... we're not going
to do this right now.
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969. We have to.
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970. The trial starts again
tomorrow morning.
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971. No, I have to think...
I have to talk to Joe.
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972. Mom, it's okay.
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973. You know what you want to do?
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974. I want to get better.
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975. Alexandra, did you do a
deal with Joseph Blaine?
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976. He pled guilty
to man two.
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977. Man two for a
double murder?
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978. I think you let
that oily-tongued,
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979. Tennessee weasel
Barry Moredock
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980. out-maneuver you.
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981. Mitigating circumstances
came to light during the trial.
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982. What mitigating
circumstances?
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983. A particularly egregious
instance of corporate greed.
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984. Corporate greed is
the beating heart
of America, Alex.
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985. I'm not accountable
to corporate America.
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986. But you are
accountable to me,
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987. and I won't let
two innocent boys die
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988. without punishing someone
for their murder.
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989. Do you believe this
bleeding-heart nonsense
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990. that Aptril
made Joe Blaine kill?
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991. Tauscher-Leto
put that medication
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992. into Joe Blaine's hands,
substantially diminishing
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993. his responsibility
for his actions.
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994. So who's guilty?
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995. I don't know yet.
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996. Then find out.
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997. And I don't care how high
you have to go.
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998. Jane? Jane?
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999. Don't you give up?
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1000. There's someone
I want you to meet.
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1001. I'm not talking to anyone.
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1002. It's just two minutes
of your time.
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1003. Jane, this is
Joey Blaine's mother,
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1004. Sandra.
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1005. Ms. Wellesley,
you sent Aptril to my home.
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1006. You told me it was safe
and I gave it to my son.
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1007. That was your fault.
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1008. You shouldn't have
given it to him.
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1009. Why? Because Aptril can
cause psychotic episodes
in children?
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1010. Did your letter
warn Sandra of that?
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1011. Those reports are unproven.
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1012. No! My son proves them.
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1013. I-I didn't come here
to attack you.
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1014. I know what I did.
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1015. I know what my kid did.
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1016. And I have to live with that.
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1017. But you and your company,
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1018. you have to share
some of the guilt, too.
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1019. The letter gave you
clear instructions.
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1020. You didn't follow them.
I'm sorry.
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1021. You have children, don't you?
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1022. Yeah? Can you imagine
what it's like
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1023. to know your own kid
is a murderer?
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1024. Two boys are dead,
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1025. their families
are destroyed.
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1026. And I keep asking,
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1027. why didn't I do something
to prevent it?
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1028. How could I fail my own kid?
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1029. Please, if you love
your children,
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1030. please, don't let these people
destroy any more lives.
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1031. What do you want from me?
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1032. In 2000,
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1033. direct-to-consumer marketing
of pharmaceuticals
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1034. was worth over one billion
in the U.S. alone.
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1035. Now, that figure can only rise,
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1036. and we're going to rise with it.
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1037. What's this,
a hostile takeover?
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1038. Funny man. Are
you Dean Reynolds,
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1039. Chief Executive Officer
of Tauscher-Leto?
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1040. I am. And you are?
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1041. The police.
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1042. This is Alexandra Cabot
of the DA's office.
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1043. What are you
doing here?
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1044. Uh, this memo approves
a direct marketing scheme
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1045. wherein Aptril would
be mailed directly
to patients' homes.
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1046. Do you recognize your signature,
Mr. Reynolds?
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1047. Where did you get that?
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1048. This approves of giving
doctors off-patent meds
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1049. free of charge in exchange
for their patient lists.
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1050. Is that your signature?
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1051. I don't have to listen to this.
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1052. Ladies and gentlemen,
we'll resume later.
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1053. And this third memo
threatens Tauscher-Leto
employees
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1054. with breach-of-
contract lawsuits
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1055. if they talk to either the
press or law enforcement
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1056. about the Aptril
direct mailing scheme.
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1057. Is that your signature?
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1058. That's enough.
I'm calling my lawyer.
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1059. Tell him to meet you
down at our lock-up.
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1060. Dean Reynolds, you
under arrest for
reckless endangerment
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1061. and for criminal diversion
of prescription medication.
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1062. You have the right
to remain silent...
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1063. But I haven't done anything.
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1064. Stop it, you're hurting me!
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1065. Take some Aptril, that'll
make you feel better.
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NBC
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1067. and
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