1. In the criminal justice system,
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considered especially heinous.
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3. In New York City,
the dedicated detectives
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these vicious felonies
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6. known as
the Special Victims Unit.
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7. These are their stories.
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8. I don't care how much
money I'll make.
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10. You're not going
to make the big bucks
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and those loans...
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to be rich?
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to be meaningful.
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isn't be meaningful?
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your values suck.
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17. Kyle!
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18. Kyle, be careful!
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19. Kyle!
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20. Folks over there say
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21. she came running
down the street already on fire.
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22. And you're thinking
it's a rape.
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23. That's why I called
the panty police.
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24. Found her torn underwear
in that doorway.
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25. Guy must've ripped 'em off
before he torched her.
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getting DNA?
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28. Only if you have a special
connection upstairs.
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29. With any luck, the lab'll find
something on the underwear.
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30. The guy was careless.
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31. Maybe he left
something else behind.
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32. Looks like there's blood
on that pipe.
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33. He could've hit her
on the head with it.
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35. You'd have to add an accelerant
to light her up.
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36. We'll run a gas chromo,
see what he used.
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37. but we got a register receipt.
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38. Time stamp says 7:14.
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39. Witnesses said they saw her
around 7:40,
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40. so maybe she bought
the magazines nearby.
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Or better yet,
get prints.
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43. Fire melted it
onto her body.
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44. I've never seen
a woman raped and
then burned alive.
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45. Guy's looking
to send a message.
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48. Whoever you're looking for
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49. is sicker than I thought.
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50. Setting her on fire
isn't sick enough?
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51. Not for this guy.
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52. There are pubic hairs
in that blood.
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53. He raped her
with a pipe.
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54. To be sure, I stained
the skin cells
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55. scraped off the metal;
they're cervical.
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56. VICAP should be able
to tell us
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there who uses foreign objects
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58. and burns their victim.
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59. He didn't burn
quite all of her.
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60. She was wearing
high boots.
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61. You see that? It's
made from henna.
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62. Some tattoo.
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63. Drawn on the skin
and set with oil.
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64. It's a traditional
Muslim design
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65. for weddings and
family celebrations.
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66. Only Muslim?
Mostly.
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67. You see it in Africa, India
and all over the Middle East.
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68. Burning Muslims?
Could be a hate crime.
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69. Let's not say that
too loud.
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70. Last thing we need
is copycats.
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71. Nothing from VICAP.
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72. The only burnings
of women we could find
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when their wives
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74. don't play by the rules.
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75. Yeah, like
having an affair.
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76. Husband's family
helps do the burning.
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makes sense,
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78. especially if his
wife cheated on him.
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80. He burned her alive.
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81. What does that tell you?
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82. Fire's a form
of purification.
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garbage,
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84. anything that makes us
feel evil or dirty...
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a metaphor for passion.
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86. Freud believed
that setting fires
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87. was a sign
of disturbed
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88. adolescent sexuality.
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89. Maybe we're dealing with a man
who still lives with his mother.
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90. We found the guy
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the magazines.
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92. Doesn't remember
what she looked like,
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or if she was with anyone,
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94. and considering
what he was snorting,
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95. it's a miracle
he remembers his own name.
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96. Muslim men like
to burn their wives.
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97. No, if they want
to burn people,
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full of gasoline
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Excuse me,
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101. Sorry, but my next door
neighbor's Iranian.
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102. At airports,
even he's scared
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Middle Eastern passports.
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104. I mean, let's get real.
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105. People know it's wrong,
but they think it
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Okay, thanks.
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107. Lab caught us a break.
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108. Talk to them.
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109. The prints on the magazines
are smudged,
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110. basically useless.
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111. Is that the good news?
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112. Be patient. Her
purse burned with
everything inside.
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113. We tested the
ash residue.
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114. It was made of suede,
and we were able to
clean up the label.
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115. "Lant-ve-lyn"?
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116. Probably a private label.
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117. That's what
I was thinking.
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118. Okay, I give up.
Private label?
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119. Well, small stores
go to manufacturers
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with custom labels
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121. to make it look like the purse
was made only for that store.
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122. Now, I'm guessing
that the "lyn"... is Brooklyn.
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123. Indian or Middle Eastern
neighborhoods in Brooklyn.
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124. Atlantic Avenue?
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125. Let's see if somebody there
recognizes the tattoo.
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126. It's beautiful, but
it's not my work,
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by an Indian.
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who might've done it?
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129. Someone from Egypt,
I would think.
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130. See the narrow penpoint style,
the detailing?
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131. Zara? Hey, Zara.
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132. Zara, come look.
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133. Is this your work?
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134. They're police officers.
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135. Of course,
I did that.
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136. Aha, I thought so.
It's lovely.
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137. Do you remember
who you did it for?
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She was attending a celebration:
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140. You know Mira well?
Mira's just
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141. I like her. Her name in Arabic
means "princess,"
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from the Hebrew.
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144. Oh, no, no. She's Muslim.
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Hebrew dialects—
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148. Do you know where
Mira's family lives?
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149. May I see your identification?
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150. Mira's husband
and his mother, Jazlyn—
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151. they publish The Arab-American,
the newspaper.
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152. It's around the corner
near the mosque.
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153. My wife? Haven't seen her
since last evening.
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many friends.
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not getting along?
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158. Of course we are.
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is this your wife?
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she spent the night.
Well, I tell you,
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We ask you about your wife.
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why we're asking.
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new complaint,
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and harass her?
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168. I would never hurt Mira.
Where were you
last night?
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here late putting
the paper to bed.
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Elbisi— she's well-
known in the community.
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like being alone
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after dark.
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friends in Bay Ridge
and stays over.
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180. Yes... and that mole.
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that photograph?
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183. Mr. Elbisi,
we're very sorry.
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last night.
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you can help us with that.
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with my son
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"evening"
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more specific?
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194. I went to the office
around 5:00.
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that you left at, uh, 10:00 p.m.
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197. 10:00, midnight.
It was a long day.
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199. The difference is
your stories don't match.
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200. Which probably means
you're not telling the truth.
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201. You just want to make Arabs
look like bad people.
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to put him to bed.
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his mother?
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211. When's Mama coming home?
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212. Sonny boy must've called Mom
and warned her.
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their stories straight.
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her mouth was a lie,
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"Good morning."
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about this burned woman?
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218. And it's nice to see you, too.
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To Be Target Of Hate Crime.
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Victims Unit detectives
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woman's ethnicity
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more attacks."
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from here.
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224. We don't leak
to the press.
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to about this was you.
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they get the story?
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the rumor,
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When this hits
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my boss, I look incompetent.
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Mira Elbisi called the 7-4,
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of her husband.
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232. Cops respond. She apologizes.
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neighbor calls.
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apartment.
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in-law who sent the cops away.
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238. Mira had a lot of courage
calling the cops.
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240. and see what the shouting
was about.
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the next day.
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fighting about?
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244. I don't know.
Mira said she cut herself.
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for that.
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247. Well, she was struggling,
you know— it was obvious.
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she was true to Islam,
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this lady wanted some freedom.
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251. You ever talk
to her husband?
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252. I don't go where I'm not wanted.
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with Arabs?
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254. No. He's got a problem with me.
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on tradespeople.
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her mother-in-law?
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with the old lady.
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they turned up the stereo.
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that she confided in?
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a guy who works
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religious group.
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She wanted me to meet him.
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Joshua Feldman.
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I'd make a donation.
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270. Mr. Feldman,
did you see Mira last night?
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Tell me.
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I was expecting her.
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bridges here between
Muslims and Jews,
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be a part of it.
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show up, I called.
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answered, and I hung up.
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a message?
Strange man calling
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might not go over too well.
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secret?
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keep her from coming.
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is she all right?
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two blocks from here.
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today's paper?
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286. No...
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were more than friends.
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about all this?
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I was Jewish,
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298. We argued.
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different generations.
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this was no secret.
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last time we talked.
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your daughter-in-law was
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baby-sitting.
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you have a young child,
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always tell me.
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what you mean.
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her boyfriend.
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312. Please. My wife is dead.
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office at around 6:00
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317. and we searched your car.
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318. Our lab found traces of oil
in your trunk.
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319. You want
to explain that?
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320. Our boiler in the office
went out.
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322. and the service company
wouldn't come out,
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left your grandson
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with your son to start a fire.
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that your daughter-in-law
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She cheated on me.
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but I still loved her.
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and you refused.
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she could go.
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to kill her.
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Yeah, you would.
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that you split her lip.
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what her boyfriend said.
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I want to believe you, I do...
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with a Jewish man,
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somebody like you would react.
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because his wife gets custody.
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the woman he loves on fire.
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349. Circumstantial— unless
you get permission
to talk to his kid.
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whose mother was just murdered?
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351. No judge will let us near him
unless we indict the father.
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352. Sure we got the
right people?
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353. Yeah. Why?
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355. What?
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Assad, 27.
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to make it to
the ambulance,
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Jason Mullavy.
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came toward him,
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somebody shouting,
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burn in hell for
what you did to us!"
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to read in tomorrow's papers.
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Captain Cragen.
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to the press.
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372. You think
you can handle that?
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373. I guess, yeah,
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real money for this.
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our investigation.
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would pay me for an interview.
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378. That depends
how much they offer.
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Yes, sir?
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380. Take this young man
into custody
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383. somewhere comfortable.
I know just the place.
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He just did.
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on the ground,
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388. We didn't release
anything about fuel oil.
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not a copycat.
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blood and tissue,
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had cervical cells.
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this one will be rectal.
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picks his victims,
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do it fast.
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Middle Eastern.
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they got nothing else in common.
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404. Except that he
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and set them on fire.
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or does he stalk them?
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407. It's hard to say,
but he seems impulsive.
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different manufacturers.
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off the street.
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sexually repressed racist.
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a mask for inadequacies.
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feelings of being wronged,
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on both sexes...?
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often humiliated
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race isn't what sets him off.
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that are Middle Eastern.
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different from himself to hate.
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he thinks terrorist.
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people have
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but we don't act on them.
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Tariq Assad—
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to study engineering.
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your brother's movements.
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he would have been
in class till noon.
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to the mosque
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instruction.
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observant Muslim than I.
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442. Did he socialize in the Arab
community in Brooklyn?
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443. You mean
the woman
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444. who was killed?
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445. No, he wouldn't know her.
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446. You seem pretty sure of that.
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447. My brother and I...
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448. Well, that's not
our sort of people.
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449. You know, they're still
very isolated in Brooklyn.
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450. Tariq was quite social.
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451. He spent a lot of time teaching
Christians and Jews about Islam.
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452. He called it "building bridges."
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453. "Building bridges"?
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454. Did he use
that specific phrase—
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455. building bridges?
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456. Yes.
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457. He was a bit of an idealist.
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458. Is that important?
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459. Do you know if he belonged
to any organizations?
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460. A place downtown—
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461. The Interfaith Council.
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462. Now, it's Tariq Assad?
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463. Don't tell me
Mira's crazy husband
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464. is killing people she met here.
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465. We don't think
he's involved.
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466. So, you knew Tariq?
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467. This is a nightmare.
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468. Kid was such an optimist.
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469. I mean, how many Arabs tell you
Israel is a great country?
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470. Could Tariq have known Mira?
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471. Mira and Tariq
were on the same panel
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472. last week—
"The Modernization of Islam."
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473. You sell tickets
to that event?
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474. No. People just show up.
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475. It's open
to the public.
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476. How about that thing up there?
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477. Security
we have plenty of.
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478. Metal detectors,
cameras, guards.
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479. We record everything
just in case.
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480. This is the tape
after the panel.
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481. Camera three is the reception.
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482. There's Tariq Assad.
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483. And there's Mira in the front.
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484. That guy in the baseball cap—
he was standing
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485. next to Tariq; now, watch.
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486. Sidling up next to Mira.
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487. Do you know him?
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488. No, never
seen him before.
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489. What's
on his jacket?
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490. Can you freeze that for me?
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491. Can you bring
it in closer?
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492. "Donaghue Heating Service."
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493. Heating.
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494. As in fuel oil.
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495. Yeah, it's
Sean Webster.
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496. Drives a
truck for us.
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497. Is he in
some kind of trouble?
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498. We just want
to talk to him.
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499. He's clocking in;
top of his shift.
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500. Hey, Sean!
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501. Some cops here want
to talk to you.
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502. Sean...
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503. What are you
running from, Sean?
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504. We just want
to have a little chat.
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505. You're under arrest
for the murders
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506. of Tariq Assad and Mira Elbisi.
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507. You don't want
to do this.
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508. Just listen to me.
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509. You have the right to remain...
Shut up!
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510. You have the right
to remain silent.
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511. If you give up that right,
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512. anything you say
can and will be
used against you...
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513. But you're like me;
I know you are, man!
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514. You have the right
to an attorney.
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515. Been in some
trouble before,
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516. so when I saw
you two coming,
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517. I automatically ran.
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518. But not because you
burned two people alive.
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519. See, you know, it's like...
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520. If somebody was going to do
what you say that I did...
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521. Somebody.
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522. Meaning not you.
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523. Yeah.
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524. If this man was to do this,
and maybe he knew
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525. that these people only
pretended to be good,
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526. but secretly... they weren't...
Copy !req
527. well, then, you'd
understand why he did it.
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528. This man knew
they were bad.
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529. How'd he know?
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530. Maybe by the color
of their skin,
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531. their voices...
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532. and because they're a danger
to our way of life.
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533. Way of life?
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534. Which way is that?
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535. Freedom, democracy.
Copy !req
536. If these people don't believe
in those things,
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537. and they get money for terrorism
from overseas...
Copy !req
538. well, somebody ought
to kill them, right?
Copy !req
539. Almost dissociating,
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540. as if this
isn't about him.
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541. Sounds like he wants Olivia's
and Elliot's approval.
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542. Well, it makes
you wonder
Copy !req
543. whose approval
he really wants.
Copy !req
544. Fuel oil in Sean's truck
is a perfect match
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545. to the victims.
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546. 36 million gallons sold
every ten seconds.
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547. The dumbest lawyer in town
can do an O.J. DNA with it.
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548. The lab says
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549. the oil was accelerated
with benzene.
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550. Munch and Fin
are going to need
a search warrant
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551. for the kid's
apartment.
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552. It's done. He saying anything?
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553. Not directly.
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554. Likes the sound
of his own voice.
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555. Well, call me
if he gives us anything useful.
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556. Any suggestions?
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557. Keep him talking.
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558. This man wants
to confess,
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559. but first, he
needs to be heard.
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560. Till he says
the magic words,
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561. "I want a lawyer."
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562. No. He won't hide
behind a lawyer.
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563. They keep listening,
he'll keep talking.
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564. What did my son do?
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565. He's not a criminal.
Yes, ma'am.
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566. Sean's boss called.
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567. He said you dragged him away.
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568. I called the Police Department.
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569. They said
they'd never heard of my son.
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570. He's at our
precinct, ma'am.
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571. You have to stop.
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572. You have to leave right now.
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573. You'd better look
at that search warrant.
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574. You don't stay out
of our way,
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575. we're going to have
to arrest you, too.
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576. Check this out.
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577. The Citizen's
Survival Manual
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578. published by
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579. The White People's Press.
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580. "Chapter Six: Fires
and How to Start Them."
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581. Why do these publishers
always have post office boxes
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582. and not real addresses?
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583. 'Cause they know
we're looking for them.
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584. Cleaning fluid.
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585. dichloramethane
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586. and- what do you know—
benzene.
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587. Sean, you got some decisions
to make here, man,
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588. and you got to make them now.
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589. Why?
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590. No one's going
to put me in jail.
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591. You know?
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592. Once they understand.
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593. Well, what
are they going
to understand?
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594. Talk to me, talk to me.
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595. What are they going
to understand?
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596. How in the hell did you
get yourself into this mess?
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597. I don't know.
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598. You come from
where I come from, and...
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599. Thing's are supposed
to be different.
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600. I'm a real American.
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601. I was born here.
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602. It-It should be easier.
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603. I understand
what you mean,
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604. and it obviously
pisses you off,
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605. so what do you do?
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606. What do you do?
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607. We just got some news.
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608. They found your can
of cleaning fluid.
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609. It's got benzene in it.
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610. You used it as an accelerant.
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611. I told you
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612. what I know.
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613. How much longer are you going
to keep me here?
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614. It's entirely up to you.
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615. See, you just don't get it,
do you?
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616. Things were different
when I grew up.
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617. You didn't have these... people.
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618. Look, there's always
been foreigners here.
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619. We're all foreigners.
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620. This country is
built of immigrants.
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621. Yeah, now they come over here
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622. and they rent places in Jersey
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623. and they set up
their little cells
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624. and they bomb buildings.
Copy !req
625. Did somebody tell you
that Mira Albisi
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626. and Tariq Assad
were involved
in 9/11?
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627. Well, I heard Arabs
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628. all over the country
had advance warning,
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629. sold their houses and moved back
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630. to their hellholes
in the desert.
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631. And what about
the street vendors
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632. and the cabbies
who were told to stay away
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633. from the Trade Center
that morning?
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634. Those were rumors,
Sean, rumors.
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635. I call 'em like I see 'em.
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636. What do you think?
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637. Well, I'll tell you.
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638. I see those people walking
down the street, and I admit,
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639. I don't like them being here.
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640. Yeah?
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641. Yeah.
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642. Stabler?
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643. Yeah.
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644. That Irish?
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645. Yeah.
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646. I, um...
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647. I went to Holy Name.
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648. You?
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649. Sisters of Mercy.
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650. You go to college?
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651. Yeah, I went
to night school.
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652. Just got out of the Marines,
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653. but, uh, I got my BA.
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654. So, now, how come
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655. you had to go
into the service
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656. instead of straight to college?
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657. My dad was a cop.
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658. I got two sisters,
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659. three brothers. You know?
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660. Not a lot of money going around.
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661. You see, that's
exactly my point.
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662. I didn't get to go myself
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663. 'cause all the places were
taken up by Arabs,
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664. who come over here
with their oil money,
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665. and they buy up all the slots
in the schools
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666. with the money
that we paid them.
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667. You're right.
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668. That's not fair.
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669. That's not fair.
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670. Yeah, it's a bitch.
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671. So you understand?
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672. One of my best friends died
in the World Trade Center.
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673. What do you think?
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674. See, you don't get it.
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675. He gets it.
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676. Gas chromo on
the benzene was
a dead-on match
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677. to the residue on
both the victims.
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678. This going anywhere?
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679. No, I thought he'd crack.
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680. He's having too good a time.
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681. I can try and go
and light him up.
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682. It's been four-and-a-half hours.
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683. Knock yourself out.
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684. Detective Tutuola,
Sean Webster.
Copy !req
685. And what's he doing here?
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686. You invited him?
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687. You don't like me very much,
do you?
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688. Actually,
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689. I'm not all that invested
either way.
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690. What do you
see in her?
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691. You know
what I see?
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692. I think she's got
some color in her.
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693. What's in you?
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694. Arab? Raghead?
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695. Oh, and you look it, too, boy.
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696. You got some
raghead in you?
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697. In Africa, folks moved around,
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698. intermixing for thousands
of years.
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699. I could be part Arab.
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700. Oh.
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701. That would explain
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702. why your coon brothers went
to the enemy.
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703. Black Muslims.
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704. Traitors to the American people.
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705. You can call me anything
you want, Sean.
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706. Coon, traitor,
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707. raghead, towelhead.
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708. I got some words for you:
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709. killer, psycho.
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710. Hey...
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711. I'm no psycho.
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712. You burned two innocent people
to death.
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713. They weren't innocent!
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714. They had to die,
or they're going to kill us all.
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715. Well, who was Mira Elbisi
gonna kill?
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716. She was working for peace.
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717. I didn't want to kill her!
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718. You tore up that innocent woman
with that pipe,
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719. then you burned her alive.
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720. You're sick.
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721. She said
that she was a good American,
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722. and that raghead said
that he was our friend.
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723. They're all liars.
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724. We have to stop them,
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725. or they're going to kill us all!
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726. You okay?
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727. I'll take words anytime
over being raped with a pipe.
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728. You've got thicker
skin than me.
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729. Couple hundred years,
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730. races will be so mixed up,
it won't matter.
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731. No one will know
what color anyone is.
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732. He got to you.
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733. A little.
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734. He thought he'd rattle
me by calling me an Arab,
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735. but the truth is,
Copy !req
736. I don't know anything
about my father.
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737. Race and color are the
least of my questions.
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738. Probation report.
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739. Sean Webster, aged 16,
Copy !req
740. attacked a Pakistani kid
at school.
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741. Tried as an adult,
sentenced as a juvenile.
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742. No time served.
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743. Father died when he was ten.
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744. Mother had a nervous breakdown,
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745. had to move out of the house
from Long Island.
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746. Brought the kid into the city.
Copy !req
747. He's been in and out
of trouble ever since.
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748. You want us to feel
sorry for him?
Copy !req
749. Oh, no. He's a racist
son of a bitch.
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750. With a damn good lawyer.
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751. The confession's inadmissible.
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752. He was Mirandized.
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753. He never asked for a lawyer.
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754. You can stop
grandstanding, Oliver.
Copy !req
755. This isn't a
press conference.
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756. You kept him hidden
from his own mother.
Copy !req
757. No, no. Our
detectives
Copy !req
758. told his mother we had him.
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759. Yeah, he was offered his
phone call. He declined.
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760. The confession was provoked.
I'll get it excluded.
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761. Well, there's not much
law on provocation.
Copy !req
762. And considering
how wired your client is,
Copy !req
763. I'd say, he provokes easily.
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764. The confession will stick.
Copy !req
765. Maybe you're right.
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766. See you in court.
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767. I've seen that smile.
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768. Usually before he demolishes
the prosecution's case.
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769. How did that kid's mother find
Oliver Gates?
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770. He's one of the major opponents
of the hate-crimes statute.
Copy !req
771. Well, he picked
the right case.
Copy !req
772. Well, we'll deny him
the pleasure.
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773. I don't need
a sentencing enhancement.
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774. We'll convict Webster
for both killings.
Copy !req
775. He does consecutive time.
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776. It's 50 years before
he sees a parole board.
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777. My opinion?
Copy !req
778. You need a hate-crimes charge.
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779. It goes to motive.
Copy !req
780. I think we should prosecute
action, not thought.
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781. Webster killed out of hate.
Copy !req
782. That matters.
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783. Okay, you tell me.
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784. Does that mean
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785. a black man who kills a Klansman
does additional time?
Copy !req
786. Or a gay man
who kills a homophobe?
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787. I mean, where do we draw
the line?
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788. Hate crimes incite
other people.
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789. It's a kind of terror.
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790. We use the statute
to make a point.
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791. Cragen.
Copy !req
792. Yeah. We'll be right there.
Copy !req
793. Sean Webster just killed
a Muslim prisoner
Copy !req
794. at Central Booking.
Copy !req
795. Webster was in the pens,
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796. waiting for arraignment
when he just flipped out.
Copy !req
797. He stomped the Arab guy
into a pulp.
Copy !req
798. Why didn't you
segregate him?
Copy !req
799. He's booked for two murders.
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800. We didn't know
about a racial angle.
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801. Nobody said squat, okay?
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802. Your lawyer's going
to be pissed, Sean.
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803. You just convicted yourself.
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804. One less Arab,
one less terrorist.
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805. Sean, seal your lips,
not another word.
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806. Actually, my client just proved
my theory correct.
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807. What?
Copy !req
808. Another murder
gets him off?
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809. No. It gets him sent
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810. to a mental hospital
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811. for the treatment
he so desperately needs.
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812. An insanity defense?
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813. You've got no grounds.
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814. Sure I do.
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815. His genes.
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816. The motion will be filed
tomorrow.
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817. Sean Webster is biologically
and genetically predisposed
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818. to hatred and violence.
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819. He had no control
over his actions.
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820. It'll never fly.
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821. You put a man's genes on trial,
Copy !req
822. nobody will ever be responsible
for anything.
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823. It's the ultimate defense.
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824. Your Honor, this
defense is absurd.
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825. The defendant sodomized
and burned two people
Copy !req
826. and beat a prisoner to death.
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827. His guilt cannot be determined
by his genes.
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828. Are you citing the
law, Counselor,
Copy !req
829. or is this just
your opinion?
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830. The law is clear.
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831. New York doesn't have
an insanity defense
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832. of "irresistible impulse."
Copy !req
833. We ask that it
be excluded.
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834. Thank you, Ms. Novak.
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835. Proceed.
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836. Thank you, Your Honor.
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837. My client, Sean Webster,
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838. believes that Muslims
are a danger to our society,
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839. and therefore,
he's driven to kill them.
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840. Now, we will prove
Copy !req
841. that he's not responsible
for these crimes
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842. because he was born
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843. with hatred and violence
hard-wired into his brain.
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844. Your Honor,
the defendant
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845. ran from the police.
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846. He knew right from wrong.
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847. That negates
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848. a mental disease
defense.
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849. Michigan v. Carpenter.
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850. Not wanting to be caught
Copy !req
851. is different
than knowing right from wrong.
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852. And what better proof
he can't control his actions
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853. in killing another inmate
while awaiting two trials?
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854. You know, you
haven't convinced me
Copy !req
855. that biology is the issue
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856. or that it's proper for me
to allow this defense.
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857. U.S. v. Robertson.
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858. The trial judge must consider
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859. the defendant's ability
to control himself.
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860. I know the case, Counselor.
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861. I went to law school, too.
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862. I'll review
your scientific evidence.
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863. And I presume you have
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864. a bang-up expert witness.
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865. The esteemed Dr. Emily Sopher,
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866. Chair of Neurobiology
at the Mid-Hudson Institute.
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867. Documents in my
chambers, 48 hours.
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868. You'll make your
witness available
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869. to the District Attorney.
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870. The whole defense is bogus.
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871. The judge should've
dismissed it.
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872. He still might.
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873. Casey!
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874. Now, this is gonna be a blast,
don't you think?
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875. I think it's a bad joke.
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876. Your client killed that inmate
just to make himself look crazy.
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877. No, he can't control
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878. his genetic predisposition
to hatred.
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879. Why are you doing this,
Oliver?
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880. It's the next frontier.
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881. I like being
on the cutting edge.
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882. You like being
in the spotlight.
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883. That, too.
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884. Why, it must be genetic.
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885. You think his expert
can convince a jury?
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886. Sopher's a world-class
neurobiologist.
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887. There's no telling what
they're going to think.
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888. You talk to Sopher.
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889. See what you think.
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890. Read the research
on brain chemistry.
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891. Multiple studies, not just mine.
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892. Genotypes that cause low levels
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893. of monoamine oxidase A
predict violence.
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894. Maybe violence is
genetically influenced,
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895. but hatred is a
learned behavior.
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896. Actually,
my research shows
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897. that emotions
are genetically determined.
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898. Someday we'll treat
the Sean Websters of the world
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899. with gene therapy
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900. before they commit
terrible crimes.
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901. You start treating people
you think will be criminals,
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902. you turn psychiatry
into social control.
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903. All due respect, Dr. Huang,
you're living in the past.
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904. You're living in the future.
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905. You might be able
to prove your theories then,
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906. but you can't do it now.
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907. I can convince a jury.
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908. Do you think
that a courtroom
Copy !req
909. is the right place
to test-drive your ideas?
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910. Where should we do it?
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911. At some academic conference
where no one'll notice?
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912. You might not want to testify
after you read my research.
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913. Dr. Sopher, are hatred
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914. and racist violence
mental diseases?
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915. Yes. They're caused by
genetic abnormalities
in the brain.
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916. Where in the brain
does this occur?
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917. In the prefrontal cortex
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918. which controls emotions
and which is smaller
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919. in people convicted
of violent hate crimes.
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920. Dr. Sopher, were you able to
examine Sean Webster's brain?
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921. Yes, first slide please.
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922. These images are
called PET scans.
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923. The one on the left shows
a normal prefrontal cortex.
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924. On the right
is Sean Webster's.
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925. His is abnormally small.
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926. More important, violent
people have more activity
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927. than normal people
in another section
of the brain.
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928. It's called the subcortex.
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929. How can you tell?
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930. Well, for example,
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931. here's a scan of the subcortex
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932. of a neo-Nazi skinhead
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933. who was convicted
of attacking Jews.
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934. This is his subcortex after
he hears the word "Jew."
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935. Note how it lights up.
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936. Did you perform this
test on Sean Webster?
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937. Yes.
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938. His subcortex lit
up the same way
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939. when he heard
the word "Arab."
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940. Your conclusion,
Dr. Sopher?
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941. The mere mention of Arabs
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942. puts Sean Webster into a state
of extreme hatred and violence.
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943. Thank you.
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944. Your witness.
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945. Can you tell by looking
at pictures of people's brains
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946. whether they'll kill
other people?
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947. That's difficult to say.
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948. Your Honor?
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949. Answer the question, Dr. Sopher.
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950. With enough time
and sufficient PET scans,
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951. yes, I'll eventually be able to
predict who will become violent.
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952. "Eventually predict"?
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953. Eventually.
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954. But not now?
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955. No.
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956. I turned to colleagues
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957. at the Ranney
Psychiatric Institute
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958. to replicate
Dr. Sopher's experiments.
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959. Tell us what you found,
Dr. Huang.
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960. We interviewed
several people.
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961. Number one is the PET
scan of an orthodox rabbi.
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962. We showed him that
picture of Nazi officers.
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963. His subcortex responded
exactly like Sean Webster's.
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964. Number two is the subcortex
of an African-American minister.
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965. We showed him that picture
of the Ku Klux Klan
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966. at a rally burning a cross.
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967. So, both of these men
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968. have the same subcortical
activity as Sean Webster?
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969. That's correct.
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970. What do these results
mean to you, Doctor?
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971. That even if behavior
is partly genetic,
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972. it's about our experiences,
also.
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973. After you're bitten by a dog,
you might not like them,
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974. but you weren't born
to hate them.
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975. Your witness.
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976. Dr. Huang, is high cholesterol
genetically caused?
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977. We think so.
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978. Can you identify the genes
which cause it?
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979. In the average patient, not yet.
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980. No. So, if I have
high cholesterol
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981. and I die of a heart attack
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982. it may have been
genetically predetermined?
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983. Yes.
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984. But you're saying
that Sean Webster,
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985. and not his genetic make-up,
is responsible for his violence?
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986. Dr. Huang?
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987. It's not that simple.
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988. Thank you.
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989. I was thinking the same thing.
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990. I wasn't finished.
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991. Dr. Sopher identifies
violent people
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992. after they've committed
hate crimes.
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993. That doesn't mean
she can predict violence
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994. based on their brain patterns.
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995. No more than you can predict
someone having a heart attack
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996. based solely
on their cholesterol level.
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997. But your rabbi or minister could
become violent at any moment.
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998. Any of us could.
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999. My point, thank you.
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1000. That includes Sean Webster.
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1001. When I was a kid, I
was always in trouble.
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1002. The school sent me
to a therapist,
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1003. but it never helped.
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1004. What kind of trouble?
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1005. Fights mostly.
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1006. Who did you fight?
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1007. Arabs.
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1008. People like Tariq Assad
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1009. and Mira Elbisi?
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1010. Yeah.
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1011. What made you choose them?
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1012. I saw this poster for
a panel they were on.
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1013. I went and I listened.
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1014. You know, they say
that they're our friends.
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1015. They're more dangerous
than the ones
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1016. who admit they're our enemies.
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1017. Did you hear voices telling you
to kill them?
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1018. No, sir.
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1019. Crazy people hear voices.
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1020. I'm not crazy.
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1021. But, still, you felt
you had to kill them.
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1022. They hate and want to destroy
our country.
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1023. Do you think killing people
is wrong?
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1024. We kill people in wars,
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1025. and we're at war
with these people, right?
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1026. Thank you.
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1027. Your witness.
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1028. So you hate Muslims.
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1029. Do you hate black people,
too, Sean?
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1030. No, ma'am.
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1031. Well, I mean, except
for the ones who are Muslims.
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1032. Do you hate the Chinese,
Japanese?
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1033. No, ma'am.
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1034. So your hatred's
pretty specific.
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1035. Muslims come here,
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1036. and they study
engineering and aviation,
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1037. and then they use it
to attack us,
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1038. and we fought for them
in Bosnia,
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1039. and my dad fought for them
in Desert Storm,
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1040. and he died for his country.
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1041. They killed your father?
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1042. Muslims killed your father?
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1043. And they turn around,
and they attack us!
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1044. And they're gonna explode
chemical warfare in the subways!
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1045. Sean!
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1046. And poison our water supplies
and blow up bridges!
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1047. Your Honor, may
we have a recess?
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1048. I'm going to recess
while the defendant
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1049. regains control
of himself.
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1050. while they stockpile weapons
of mass destruction!
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1051. He said his father
died in Desert Storm.
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1052. I need to know whether Sean
killed out of hate or revenge.
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1053. Find out how
the father died.
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1054. Casey, just accept it.
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1055. It's over.
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1056. If you want a deal,
the answer is no.
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1057. I thought you'd jump
at the chance.
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1058. I wouldn't give you
the satisfaction.
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1059. The jury's buying it.
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1060. See, they understand hatred
'cause at one point,
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1061. they've hated
someone themselves.
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1062. Well, none of them
have killed three people.
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1063. But they understand
the impulse,
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1064. and they won't
blame Sean for his.
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1065. No deal.
There's no way I acknowledge
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1066. an ounce of validity
in this cockamamie defense.
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1067. You will realize
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1068. that it's based on speculation,
on maybes and could bes.
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1069. On maybes and...
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1070. Practicing your summation?
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1071. Yeah. It's
not working.
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1072. It may not have to.
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1073. I think I found what you wanted.
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1074. Seth Webster—
that's Sean Webster's father—
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1075. he fought in Desert Storm...
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1076. didn't die there.
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1077. What's this about?
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1078. You still want a deal?
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1079. You've come to your senses.
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1080. It's about you coming to yours.
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1081. He pleads three counts,
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1082. Murder Two,
consecutive sentences.
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1083. Have a nice day.
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1084. Who's this?
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1085. Get him out.
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1086. Don't you want
to introduce Dad?
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1087. Sean, what's going on?
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1088. He never told you?
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1089. His father met
an Arab woman
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1090. in Kuwait,
divorced Sean's mother,
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1091. remarried and moved to Detroit.
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1092. You still think
it's genetics, Oliver?
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1093. Why don't you
just go back
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1094. to where you came from.
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1095. Go back to your Arab whore.
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1096. Sean, I'm sorry.
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1097. What do you care, hmm?
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1098. Because this is my fault.
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1099. Yeah, you're damn right
it's your fault.
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1100. My mom told me
that you died a hero,
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1101. and you never came around
to tell me different.
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1102. I go to get benefits
for college,
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1103. and I find out
that he's still alive.
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1104. Sean, listen,
I wanted to see you.
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1105. Your mother wouldn't let me.
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1106. She had custody.
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1107. She threatened that
if I even tried to come visit...
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1108. Liar!
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1109. You were too busy with your
half-breed kids! Admit it!
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1110. She filled your head
with all this crap
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1111. about Arabs
because she was angry with me.
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1112. Can't you see that?
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1113. She poisoned you with her hate.
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1114. My mom worked her ass off
to take care of me!
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1115. You never gave a damn!
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1116. Oh, Sean.
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1117. I hate your stinking guts!
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1118. If I had a gun right now,
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1119. I'd shoot you in the head,
and then I'd go back
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1120. and I'd set your wife
and your bastard kids on fire!
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1121. Get off me!
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1122. Sean Webster wasn't born
that way.
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1123. I don't believe anyone is.
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1124. It takes a human being
to teach you to hate.
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1125. "Some mysteries past
all understanding."
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1126. Letters of St. Paul.
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1127. The Muslim who Sean Webster
killed at Central Booking?
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1128. He had friends.
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1129. Webster was just stabbed
to death in the yard at Rikers.
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