1. In the criminal justice system,
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considered especially heinous.
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the dedicated detectives
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these vicious felonies
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6. known as
the Special Victims Unit.
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7. These are their stories.
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8. I don't care how much
money I'll make.
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9. I'm going to med school.
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10. You're not going
to make the big bucks
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and those loans...
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to be rich?
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to be meaningful.
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isn't be meaningful?
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your values suck.
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Oh, my God...
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17. Kyle!
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18. Kyle, be careful!
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19. Kyle!
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20. Folks over there say
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21. she came running
down the street already on fire.
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22. And you're thinking
it's a rape.
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23. That's why I called
the panty police.
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in that doorway.
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25. Guy must've ripped 'em off
before he torched her.
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26. She's pretty crispy.
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getting DNA?
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28. Only if you have a special
connection upstairs.
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something on the underwear.
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30. The guy was careless.
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something else behind.
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32. Looks like there's blood
on that pipe.
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on the head with it.
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35. You'd have to add an accelerant
to light her up.
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36. We'll run a gas chromo,
see what he used.
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37. Well, there's no
mailing labels on
these magazines,
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38. but we got a register receipt.
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39. Time stamp says 7:14.
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40. Witnesses said they saw her
around 7:40,
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42. We find the newsstand.
Or better yet,
get prints.
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43. Any I.D.? Purse?
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44. Fire melted it
onto her body.
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45. I've never seen
a woman raped and
then burned alive.
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46. Guy's looking
to send a message.
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47. Captioning sponsored by
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48. and NBC
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49. Whoever you're looking for
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50. is sicker than I thought.
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51. Setting her on fire
isn't sick enough?
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52. Not for this guy.
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53. There are pubic hairs
in that blood.
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54. He raped her
with a pipe.
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55. To be sure, I stained
the skin cells
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56. scraped off the metal;
they're cervical.
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57. VICAP should be able
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58. if there're any rapists out
there who uses foreign objects
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59. and burns their victim.
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60. He didn't burn
quite all of her.
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61. She was wearing
high boots.
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62. You see that? It's
made from henna.
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63. Some tattoo.
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64. Drawn on the skin
and set with oil.
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65. It's a traditional
Muslim design
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66. for weddings and
family celebrations.
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67. Only Muslim?
Mostly.
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68. You see it in Africa, India
and all over the Middle East.
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69. Burning Muslims?
Could be a hate crime.
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70. Let's not say that
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71. Last thing we need
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72. Nothing from VICAP.
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of women we could find
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when their wives
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76. Yeah, like
having an affair.
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77. Husband's family
helps do the burning.
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makes sense,
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79. especially if his
wife cheated on him.
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80. That would cover a lot of men.
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81. He burned her alive.
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83. Fire's a form
of purification.
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garbage,
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85. anything that makes us
feel evil or dirty...
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a metaphor for passion.
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that setting fires
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88. was a sign
of disturbed
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89. adolescent sexuality.
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90. Maybe we're dealing with a man
who still lives with his mother.
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91. We found the guy
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the magazines.
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93. Doesn't remember
what she looked like,
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or if she was with anyone,
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what he was snorting,
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he remembers his own name.
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97. Whatever this is,
let's be careful
not to say
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to burn their wives.
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99. No, if they want
to burn people,
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full of gasoline
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Excuse me,
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( phone rings )
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103. Sorry, but my next door
neighbor's Iranian.
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104. At airports,
even he's scared
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Middle Eastern passports.
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106. I mean, let's get real.
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107. People know it's wrong,
but they think it
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Okay, thanks.
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110. Talk to them.
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111. The prints on the magazines
are smudged,
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113. Is that the good news?
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114. Be patient. Her
purse burned with
everything inside.
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115. We tested the
ash residue.
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116. It was made of suede,
and we were able to
clean up the label.
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117. "Lant-ve-lyn"?
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118. Probably a private label.
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119. That's what
I was thinking.
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120. Okay, I give up.
Private label?
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121. Well, small stores
go to manufacturers
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with custom labels
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123. to make it look like the purse
was made only for that store.
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that the "lyn"... is Brooklyn.
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125. Indian or Middle Eastern
neighborhoods in Brooklyn.
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127. Let's see if somebody there
recognizes the tattoo.
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128. It's beautiful, but
it's not my work,
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129. and this wasn't done
by an Indian.
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130. Do you have any idea
who might've done it?
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131. Someone from Egypt,
I would think.
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132. See the narrow penpoint style,
the detailing?
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133. Zara? Hey, Zara.
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134. Zara, come look.
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135. Is this your work?
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136. They're police officers.
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137. Of course,
I did that.
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It's lovely.
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who you did it for?
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She was attending a celebration:
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142. You know Mira well?
Mira's just
a customer.
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143. I like her. Her name in Arabic
means "princess,"
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from the Hebrew.
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146. Oh, no, no. She's Muslim.
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147. The languages— Arabic,
Hebrew dialects—
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149. What's this all about?
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150. Do you know where
Mira's family lives?
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151. May I see your identification?
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152. Mira's husband
and his mother, Jazlyn—
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153. they publish The Arab-American,
the newspaper.
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154. It's around the corner
near the mosque.
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155. My wife? Haven't seen her
since last evening.
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158. Uh, my wife has
many friends.
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not getting along?
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is this your wife?
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she spent the night.
Well, I tell you,
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We ask you about your wife.
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why we're asking.
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new complaint,
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and harass her?
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169. Why? You like to beat her up?
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170. I would never hurt Mira.
Where were you
last night?
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171. My mother and I worked
here late putting
the paper to bed.
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172. My mother's Jazlyn
Elbisi— she's well-
known in the community.
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like being alone
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after dark.
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friends in Bay Ridge
and stays over.
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182. Yes... and that mole.
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183. It's Mira.
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184. Why do you have
that photograph?
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185. Mr. Elbisi,
we're very sorry.
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186. Your wife was murdered
last night.
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188. She was burned to death.
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189. Who could've done this?
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190. We're hoping
you can help us with that.
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191. I wouldn't have any idea.
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with my son
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more specific?
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around 5:00.
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that you left at, uh, 10:00 p.m.
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199. 10:00, midnight.
It was a long day.
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201. The difference is
your stories don't match.
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202. Which probably means
you're not telling the truth.
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203. You just want to make Arabs
look like bad people.
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205. All right.
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to put him to bed.
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his mother?
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210. I don't know.
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211. Nanna,
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213. When's Mama coming home?
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214. Sonny boy must've called Mom
and warned her.
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their stories straight.
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her mouth was a lie,
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"Good morning."
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218. Casey?
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about this burned woman?
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220. And it's nice to see you, too.
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221. "Burn Victim Said
To Be Target Of Hate Crime.
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222. "Sources say Special
Victims Unit detectives
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223. "refuse to release the
woman's ethnicity
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more attacks."
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from here.
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to the press.
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to about this was you.
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they get the story?
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229. Somebody heard
the rumor,
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When this hits
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my boss, I look incompetent.
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232. Three weeks ago,
Mira Elbisi called the 7-4,
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of her husband.
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234. Cops respond. She apologizes.
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neighbor calls.
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apartment.
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238. This time, it was the mother-
in-law who sent the cops away.
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240. Mira had a lot of courage
calling the cops.
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241. Well, let's find this neighbor
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242. and see what the shouting
was about.
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243. I think maybe he hit her.
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244. She had a split lip
the next day.
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fighting about?
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246. I don't know.
Mira said she cut herself.
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for that.
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249. Well, she was struggling,
you know— it was obvious.
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251. She told me
she was true to Islam,
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this lady wanted some freedom.
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253. You ever talk
to her husband?
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254. I don't go where I'm not wanted.
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with Arabs?
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256. No. He's got a problem with me.
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on tradespeople.
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259. Did Mira fight with
her mother-in-law?
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260. She hated living
with the old lady.
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they turned up the stereo.
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that she confided in?
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a guy who works
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religious group.
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She wanted me to meet him.
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267. Name's, uh, Feldman,
Joshua Feldman.
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268. She thought since I'm Jewish,
I'd make a donation.
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270. That lunatic husband of hers.
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271. Is that why you're here?
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272. Mr. Feldman,
did you see Mira last night?
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273. Is she in the hospital?
Tell me.
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274. Was she here last night?
I was expecting her.
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275. We're trying to build
bridges here between
Muslims and Jews,
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be a part of it.
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277. When she didn't
show up, I called.
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278. Her-her mother-in-law
answered, and I hung up.
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a message?
Strange man calling
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might not go over too well.
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secret?
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282. Yes.
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keep her from coming.
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is she all right?
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286. last night, Mira was attacked
two blocks from here.
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today's paper?
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290. Oh, God, no...
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291. So, you two
were more than friends.
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295. Did her husband know
about all this?
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I was Jewish,
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299. Mira and I fought.
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300. We argued.
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different generations.
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this was no secret.
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303. You sure had some secrets
last time we talked.
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your daughter-in-law was
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baby-sitting.
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you have a young child,
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always tell me.
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312. I don't know
what you mean.
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her boyfriend.
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314. Please. My wife is dead.
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315. Don't defame her good name.
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316. Did you leave the newspaper
office at around 6:00
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318. We got a warrant,
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319. and we searched your car.
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320. Our lab found traces of oil
in your trunk.
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321. You want
to explain that?
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322. Our boiler in the office
went out.
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wouldn't come out,
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326. We figure you
left your grandson
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with your son to start a fire.
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328. We're not barbarians.
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329. We are faithful Muslims.
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330. And you couldn't bear
that your daughter-in-law
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332. AL-
She cheated on me.
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but I still loved her.
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334. Your wife wanted a divorce,
and you refused.
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335. Mira wanted to go,
she could go.
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336. Not if you threatened
to kill her.
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337. I would never do that.
Yeah, you would.
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338. The neighbor said
that you split her lip.
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339. It was an accident.
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341. That's not
what her boyfriend said.
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I want to believe you, I do...
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with a Jewish man,
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somebody like you would react.
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349. He mourns the loss of his son
because his wife gets custody.
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the woman he loves on fire.
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351. Circumstantial— unless
you get permission
to talk to his kid.
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352. A six-year-old
whose mother was just murdered?
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353. No judge will let us near him
unless we indict the father.
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354. Sure we got the
right people?
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355. Yeah. Why?
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357. What?
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360. A man set on fire.
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361. Name was Tariq
Assad, 27.
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to make it to
the ambulance,
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364. The witness is
Jason Mullavy.
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365. Says the guy in flames
came toward him,
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somebody shouting,
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burn in hell for
what you did to us!"
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368. Just what the city needs
to read in tomorrow's papers.
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370. Jason,
Captain Cragen.
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to the press.
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374. You think
you can handle that?
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375. I guess, yeah,
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376. but I could get
real money for this.
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377. Well, that could compromise
our investigation.
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378. I think maybe The Enquirer
would pay me for an interview.
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380. That depends
how much they offer.
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Yes, sir?
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382. Take this young man
into custody
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384. Lock him up
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I know just the place.
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386. You can't do this to me.
He just did.
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387. Same M.O.
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388. Torn underwear
on the ground,
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389. and the smell of fuel oil.
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390. We didn't release
anything about fuel oil.
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not a copycat.
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392. We got a pipe with
blood and tissue,
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had cervical cells.
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this one will be rectal.
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picks his victims,
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do it fast.
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Middle Eastern.
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they got nothing else in common.
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406. Except that he
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and set them on fire.
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408. A crime of opportunity,
or does he stalk them?
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409. It's hard to say,
but he seems impulsive.
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different manufacturers.
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off the street.
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sexually repressed racist.
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a mask for inadequacies.
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feelings of being wronged,
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on both sexes...?
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often humiliated
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race isn't what sets him off.
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that are Middle Eastern.
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429. This killer needs someone
different from himself to hate.
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he thinks terrorist.
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431. Well, he's not alone.
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people have
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but we don't act on them.
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Tariq Assad—
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to study engineering.
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your brother's movements.
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he would have been
in class till noon.
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441. Then he'd go
to the mosque
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442. for religious
instruction.
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443. He was a much more
observant Muslim than I.
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444. Did he socialize in the Arab
community in Brooklyn?
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445. You mean
the woman
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446. who was killed?
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447. No, he wouldn't know her.
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448. You seem pretty sure of that.
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449. My brother and I...
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450. Well, that's not
our sort of people.
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451. You know, they're still
very isolated in Brooklyn.
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452. Tariq was quite social.
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453. He spent a lot of time teaching
Christians and Jews about Islam.
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454. He called it "building bridges."
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455. "Building bridges"?
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456. Did he use
that specific phrase—
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457. building bridges?
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458. Yes.
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459. He was a bit of an idealist.
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460. Is that important?
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461. Do you know if he belonged
to any organizations?
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462. A place downtown—
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463. The Interfaith Council.
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464. Now, it's Tariq Assad?
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465. Don't tell me
Mira's crazy husband
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466. is killing people she met here.
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467. We don't think
he's involved.
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468. So, you knew Tariq?
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469. This is a nightmare.
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470. Kid was such an optimist.
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471. I mean, how many Arabs tell you
Israel is a great country?
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472. Could Tariq have known Mira?
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473. Mira and Tariq
were on the same panel
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474. last week—
"The Modernization of Islam."
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475. You sell tickets
to that event?
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476. No. People just show up.
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477. It's open
to the public.
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478. How about that thing up there?
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479. Security
we have plenty of.
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480. Metal detectors,
cameras, guards.
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481. We record everything
just in case.
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482. This is the tape
after the panel.
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483. Camera three is the reception.
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484. There's Tariq Assad.
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485. And there's Mira in the front.
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486. That guy in the baseball cap—
he was standing
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487. next to Tariq; now, watch.
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488. Sidling up next to Mira.
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489. Do you know him?
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490. No, never
seen him before.
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491. What's
on his jacket?
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492. Can you freeze that for me?
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493. Can you bring
it in closer?
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494. "Donaghue Heating Service."
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495. Heating.
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496. As in fuel oil.
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497. Yeah, it's
Sean Webster.
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498. Drives a
truck for us.
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499. Is he in
some kind of trouble?
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500. We just want
to talk to him.
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501. He's clocking in;
top of his shift.
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502. Hey, Sean!
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503. Some cops here want
to talk to you.
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504. Sean...
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505. What are you
running from, Sean?
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506. We just want
to have a little chat.
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507. You're under arrest
for the murders
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508. of Tariq Assad and Mira Elbisi.
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509. You don't want
to do this.
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510. Just listen to me.
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511. You have the right to remain...
Shut up!
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512. You have the right
to remain silent.
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513. If you give up that right,
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514. anything you say
can and will be
used against you...
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515. But you're like me;
I know you are, man!
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516. You have the right
to an attorney.
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517. Been in some
trouble before,
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518. so when I saw
you two coming,
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519. I automatically ran.
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520. But not because you
burned two people alive.
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521. See, you know, it's like...
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522. If somebody was going to do
what you say that I did...
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523. Somebody.
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524. Meaning not you.
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525. Yeah.
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526. If this man was to do this,
and maybe he knew
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527. that these people only
pretended to be good,
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528. but secretly... they weren't...
Copy !req
529. well, then, you'd
understand why he did it.
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530. This man knew
they were bad.
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531. How'd he know?
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532. Maybe by the color
of their skin,
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533. their voices...
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534. and because they're a danger
to our way of life.
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535. Way of life?
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536. Which way is that?
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537. Freedom, democracy.
Copy !req
538. If these people don't believe
in those things,
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539. and they get money for terrorism
from overseas...
Copy !req
540. well, somebody ought
to kill them, right?
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541. Almost dissociating,
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542. as if this
isn't about him.
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543. Sounds like he wants Olivia's
and Elliot's approval.
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544. Well, it makes
you wonder
Copy !req
545. whose approval
he really wants.
Copy !req
546. Fuel oil in Sean's truck
is a perfect match
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547. to the victims.
Copy !req
548. 36 million gallons sold
every ten seconds.
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549. The dumbest lawyer in town
can do an O.J. DNA with it.
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550. The lab says
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551. the oil was accelerated
with benzene.
Copy !req
552. Munch and Fin
are going to need
a search warrant
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553. for the kid's
apartment.
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554. It's done. He saying anything?
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555. Not directly.
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556. Likes the sound
of his own voice.
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557. Well, call me
if he gives us anything useful.
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558. Any suggestions?
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559. Keep him talking.
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560. This man wants
to confess,
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561. but first, he
needs to be heard.
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562. Till he says
the magic words,
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563. "I want a lawyer."
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564. No. He won't hide
behind a lawyer.
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565. They keep listening,
he'll keep talking.
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566. What did my son do?
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567. He's not a criminal.
Yes, ma'am.
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568. Sean's boss called.
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569. He said you dragged him away.
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570. I called the Police Department.
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571. They said
they'd never heard of my son.
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572. He's at our
precinct, ma'am.
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573. You have to stop.
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574. You have to leave right now.
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575. You'd better look
at that search warrant.
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576. You don't stay out
of our way,
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577. we're going to have
to arrest you, too.
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578. Check this out.
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579. The Citizen's
Survival Manual
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580. published by
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581. The White People's Press.
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582. "Chapter Six: Fires
and How to Start Them."
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583. Why do these publishers
always have post office boxes
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584. and not real addresses?
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585. 'Cause they know
we're looking for them.
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586. Cleaning fluid.
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587. dichloramethane
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588. and- what do you know—
benzene.
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589. Sean, you got some decisions
to make here, man,
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590. and you got to make them now.
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591. Why?
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592. No one's going
to put me in jail.
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593. You know?
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594. Once they understand.
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595. Well, what
are they going
to understand?
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596. Talk to me, talk to me.
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597. What are they going
to understand?
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598. How in the hell did you
get yourself into this mess?
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599. I don't know.
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600. You come from
where I come from, and...
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601. Thing's are supposed
to be different.
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602. I'm a real American.
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603. I was born here.
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604. It-It should be easier.
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605. I understand
what you mean,
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606. and it obviously
pisses you off,
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607. so what do you do?
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608. What do you do?
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609. We just got some news.
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610. They found your can
of cleaning fluid.
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611. It's got benzene in it.
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612. You used it as an accelerant.
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613. I told you
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614. what I know.
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615. How much longer are you going
to keep me here?
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616. It's entirely up to you.
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617. See, you just don't get it,
do you?
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618. Things were different
when I grew up.
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619. You didn't have these... people.
Copy !req
620. Look, there's always
been foreigners here.
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621. We're all foreigners.
Copy !req
622. This country is
built of immigrants.
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623. Yeah, now they come over here
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624. and they rent places in Jersey
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625. and they set up
their little cells
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626. and they bomb buildings.
Copy !req
627. Did somebody tell you
that Mira Albisi
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628. and Tariq Assad
were involved
in 9/11?
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629. Well, I heard Arabs
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630. all over the country
had advance warning,
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631. sold their houses and moved back
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632. to their hellholes
in the desert.
Copy !req
633. And what about
the street vendors
Copy !req
634. and the cabbies
who were told to stay away
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635. from the Trade Center
that morning?
Copy !req
636. Those were rumors,
Sean, rumors.
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637. I call 'em like I see 'em.
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638. What do you think?
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639. Well, I'll tell you.
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640. I see those people walking
down the street, and I admit,
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641. I don't like them being here.
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642. Yeah?
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643. Yeah.
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644. Stabler?
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645. Yeah.
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646. That Irish?
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647. Yeah.
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648. I, um...
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649. I went to Holy Name.
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650. You?
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651. Sisters of Mercy.
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652. You go to college?
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653. Yeah, I went
to night school.
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654. Just got out of the Marines,
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655. but, uh, I got my BA.
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656. So, now, how come
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657. you had to go
into the service
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658. instead of straight to college?
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659. My dad was a cop.
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660. I got two sisters,
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661. three brothers. You know?
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662. Not a lot of money going around.
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663. You see, that's
exactly my point.
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664. I didn't get to go myself
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665. 'cause all the places were
taken up by Arabs,
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666. who come over here
with their oil money,
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667. and they buy up all the slots
in the schools
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668. with the money
that we paid them.
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669. You're right.
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670. That's not fair.
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671. That's not fair.
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672. Yeah, it's a bitch.
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673. So you understand?
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674. One of my best friends died
in the World Trade Center.
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675. What do you think?
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676. See, you don't get it.
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677. He gets it.
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678. Gas chromo on
the benzene was
a dead-on match
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679. to the residue on
both the victims.
Copy !req
680. This going anywhere?
Copy !req
681. No, I thought he'd crack.
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682. He's having too good a time.
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683. I can try and go
and light him up.
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684. It's been four-and-a-half hours.
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685. Knock yourself out.
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686. Detective Tutuola,
Sean Webster.
Copy !req
687. And what's he doing here?
Copy !req
688. You invited him?
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689. You don't like me very much,
do you?
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690. Actually,
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691. I'm not all that invested
either way.
Copy !req
692. What do you
see in her?
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693. You know
what I see?
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694. I think she's got
some color in her.
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695. What's in you?
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696. Arab? Raghead?
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697. Oh, and you look it, too, boy.
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698. You got some
raghead in you?
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699. In Africa, folks moved around,
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700. intermixing for thousands
of years.
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701. I could be part Arab.
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702. Oh.
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703. That would explain
Copy !req
704. why your coon brothers went
to the enemy.
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705. Black Muslims.
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706. Traitors to the American people.
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707. You can call me anything
you want, Sean.
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708. Coon, traitor,
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709. raghead, towelhead.
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710. I got some words for you:
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711. killer, psycho.
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712. Hey...
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713. I'm no psycho.
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714. You burned two innocent people
to death.
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715. They weren't innocent!
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716. They had to die,
or they're going to kill us all.
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717. Well, who was Mira Elbisi
gonna kill?
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718. She was working for peace.
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719. I didn't want to kill her!
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720. You tore up that innocent woman
with that pipe,
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721. then you burned her alive.
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722. You're sick.
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723. She said
that she was a good American,
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724. and that raghead said
that he was our friend.
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725. They're all liars.
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726. We have to stop them,
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727. or they're going to kill us all!
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728. You okay?
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729. I'll take words anytime
over being raped with a pipe.
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730. You've got thicker
skin than me.
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731. Couple hundred years,
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732. races will be so mixed up,
it won't matter.
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733. No one will know
what color anyone is.
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734. He got to you.
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735. A little.
Copy !req
736. He thought he'd rattle
me by calling me an Arab,
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737. but the truth is,
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738. I don't know anything
about my father.
Copy !req
739. Race and color are the
least of my questions.
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740. Probation report.
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741. Sean Webster, aged 16,
Copy !req
742. attacked a Pakistani kid
at school.
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743. Tried as an adult,
sentenced as a juvenile.
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744. No time served.
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745. Father died when he was ten.
Copy !req
746. Mother had a nervous breakdown,
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747. had to move out of the house
from Long Island.
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748. Brought the kid into the city.
Copy !req
749. He's been in and out
of trouble ever since.
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750. You want us to feel
sorry for him?
Copy !req
751. Oh, no. He's a racist
son of a bitch.
Copy !req
752. With a damn good lawyer.
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753. The confession's inadmissible.
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754. He was Mirandized.
Copy !req
755. He never asked for a lawyer.
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756. You can stop
grandstanding, Oliver.
Copy !req
757. This isn't a
press conference.
Copy !req
758. You kept him hidden
from his own mother.
Copy !req
759. No, no. Our
detectives
Copy !req
760. told his mother we had him.
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761. Yeah, he was offered his
phone call. He declined.
Copy !req
762. The confession was provoked.
I'll get it excluded.
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763. Well, there's not much
law on provocation.
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764. And considering
how wired your client is,
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765. I'd say, he provokes easily.
Copy !req
766. The confession will stick.
Copy !req
767. Maybe you're right.
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768. See you in court.
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769. I've seen that smile.
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770. Usually before he demolishes
the prosecution's case.
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771. How did that kid's mother find
Oliver Gates?
Copy !req
772. He's one of the major opponents
of the hate-crimes statute.
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773. Well, he picked
the right case.
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774. Well, we'll deny him
the pleasure.
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775. I don't need
a sentencing enhancement.
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776. We'll convict Webster
for both killings.
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777. He does consecutive time.
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778. It's 50 years before
he sees a parole board.
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779. My opinion?
Copy !req
780. You need a hate-crimes charge.
Copy !req
781. It goes to motive.
Copy !req
782. I think we should prosecute
action, not thought.
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783. Webster killed out of hate.
Copy !req
784. That matters.
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785. Okay, you tell me.
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786. Does that mean
Copy !req
787. a black man who kills a Klansman
does additional time?
Copy !req
788. Or a gay man
who kills a homophobe?
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789. I mean, where do we draw
the line?
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790. Hate crimes incite
other people.
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791. It's a kind of terror.
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792. We use the statute
to make a point.
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793. Cragen.
Copy !req
794. Yeah. We'll be right there.
Copy !req
795. Sean Webster just killed
a Muslim prisoner
Copy !req
796. at Central Booking.
Copy !req
797. Webster was in the pens,
Copy !req
798. waiting for arraignment
when he just flipped out.
Copy !req
799. He stomped the Arab guy
into a pulp.
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800. Why didn't you
segregate him?
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801. He's booked for two murders.
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802. We didn't know
about a racial angle.
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803. Nobody said squat, okay?
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804. Your lawyer's going
to be pissed, Sean.
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805. You just convicted yourself.
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806. One less Arab,
one less terrorist.
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807. Sean, seal your lips,
not another word.
Copy !req
808. Actually, my client just proved
my theory correct.
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809. What?
Copy !req
810. Another murder
gets him off?
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811. No. It gets him sent
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812. to a mental hospital
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813. for the treatment
he so desperately needs.
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814. An insanity defense?
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815. You've got no grounds.
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816. Sure I do.
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817. His genes.
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818. The motion will be filed
tomorrow.
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819. Sean Webster is biologically
and genetically predisposed
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820. to hatred and violence.
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821. He had no control
over his actions.
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822. It'll never fly.
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823. You put a man's genes on trial,
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824. nobody will ever be responsible
for anything.
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825. It's the ultimate defense.
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826. Your Honor, this
defense is absurd.
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827. The defendant sodomized
and burned two people
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828. and beat a prisoner to death.
Copy !req
829. His guilt cannot be determined
by his genes.
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830. Are you citing the
law, Counselor,
Copy !req
831. or is this just
your opinion?
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832. The law is clear.
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833. New York doesn't have
an insanity defense
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834. of "irresistible impulse."
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835. We ask that it
be excluded.
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836. Thank you, Ms. Novak.
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837. Proceed.
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838. Thank you, Your Honor.
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839. My client, Sean Webster,
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840. believes that Muslims
are a danger to our society,
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841. and therefore,
he's driven to kill them.
Copy !req
842. Now, we will prove
Copy !req
843. that he's not responsible
for these crimes
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844. because he was born
Copy !req
845. with hatred and violence
hard-wired into his brain.
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846. Your Honor,
the defendant
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847. ran from the police.
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848. He knew right from wrong.
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849. That negates
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850. a mental disease
defense.
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851. Michigan v. Carpenter.
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852. Not wanting to be caught
Copy !req
853. is different
than knowing right from wrong.
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854. And what better proof
he can't control his actions
Copy !req
855. in killing another inmate
while awaiting two trials?
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856. You know, you
haven't convinced me
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857. that biology is the issue
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858. or that it's proper for me
to allow this defense.
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859. U.S. v. Robertson.
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860. The trial judge must consider
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861. the defendant's ability
to control himself.
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862. I know the case, Counselor.
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863. I went to law school, too.
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864. I'll review
your scientific evidence.
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865. And I presume you have
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866. a bang-up expert witness.
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867. The esteemed Dr. Emily Sopher,
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868. Chair of Neurobiology
at the Mid-Hudson Institute.
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869. Documents in my
chambers, 48 hours.
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870. You'll make your
witness available
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871. to the District Attorney.
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872. The whole defense is bogus.
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873. The judge should've
dismissed it.
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874. He still might.
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875. Casey!
Copy !req
876. Now, this is gonna be a blast,
don't you think?
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877. I think it's a bad joke.
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878. Your client killed that inmate
just to make himself look crazy.
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879. No, he can't control
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880. his genetic predisposition
to hatred.
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881. Why are you doing this,
Oliver?
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882. It's the next frontier.
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883. I like being
on the cutting edge.
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884. You like being
in the spotlight.
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885. That, too.
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886. Why, it must be genetic.
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887. You think his expert
can convince a jury?
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888. Sopher's a world-class
neurobiologist.
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889. There's no telling what
they're going to think.
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890. You talk to Sopher.
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891. See what you think.
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892. Read the research
on brain chemistry.
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893. Multiple studies, not just mine.
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894. Genotypes that cause low levels
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895. of monoamine oxidase A
predict violence.
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896. Maybe violence is
genetically influenced,
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897. but hatred is a
learned behavior.
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898. Actually,
my research shows
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899. that emotions
are genetically determined.
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900. Someday we'll treat
the Sean Websters of the world
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901. with gene therapy
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902. before they commit
terrible crimes.
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903. You start treating people
you think will be criminals,
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904. you turn psychiatry
into social control.
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905. All due respect, Dr. Huang,
you're living in the past.
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906. You're living in the future.
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907. You might be able
to prove your theories then,
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908. but you can't do it now.
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909. I can convince a jury.
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910. Do you think
that a courtroom
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911. is the right place
to test-drive your ideas?
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912. Where should we do it?
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913. At some academic conference
where no one'll notice?
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914. You might not want to testify
after you read my research.
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915. Dr. Sopher, are hatred
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916. and racist violence
mental diseases?
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917. Yes. They're caused by
genetic abnormalities
in the brain.
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918. Where in the brain
does this occur?
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919. In the prefrontal cortex
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920. which controls emotions
and which is smaller
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921. in people convicted
of violent hate crimes.
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922. Dr. Sopher, were you able to
examine Sean Webster's brain?
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923. Yes, first slide please.
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924. These images are
called PET scans.
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925. The one on the left shows
a normal prefrontal cortex.
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926. On the right
is Sean Webster's.
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927. His is abnormally small.
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928. More important, violent
people have more activity
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929. than normal people
in another section
of the brain.
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930. It's called the subcortex.
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931. How can you tell?
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932. Well, for example,
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933. here's a scan of the subcortex
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934. of a neo-Nazi skinhead
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935. who was convicted
of attacking Jews.
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936. This is his subcortex after
he hears the word "Jew."
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937. Note how it lights up.
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938. Did you perform this
test on Sean Webster?
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939. Yes.
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940. His subcortex lit
up the same way
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941. when he heard
the word "Arab."
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942. Your conclusion,
Dr. Sopher?
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943. The mere mention of Arabs
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944. puts Sean Webster into a state
of extreme hatred and violence.
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945. Thank you.
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946. Your witness.
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947. Can you tell by looking
at pictures of people's brains
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948. whether they'll kill
other people?
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949. That's difficult to say.
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950. Your Honor?
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951. Answer the question, Dr. Sopher.
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952. With enough time
and sufficient PET scans,
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953. yes, I'll eventually be able to
predict who will become violent.
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954. "Eventually predict"?
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955. Eventually.
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956. But not now?
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957. No.
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958. I turned to colleagues
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959. at the Ranney
Psychiatric Institute
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960. to replicate
Dr. Sopher's experiments.
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961. Tell us what you found,
Dr. Huang.
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962. We interviewed
several people.
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963. Number one is the PET
scan of an orthodox rabbi.
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964. We showed him that
picture of Nazi officers.
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965. His subcortex responded
exactly like Sean Webster's.
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966. Number two is the subcortex
of an African-American minister.
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967. We showed him that picture
of the Ku Klux Klan
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968. at a rally burning a cross.
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969. So, both of these men
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970. have the same subcortical
activity as Sean Webster?
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971. That's correct.
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972. What do these results
mean to you, Doctor?
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973. That even if behavior
is partly genetic,
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974. it's about our experiences,
also.
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975. After you're bitten by a dog,
you might not like them,
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976. but you weren't born
to hate them.
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977. Your witness.
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978. Dr. Huang, is high cholesterol
genetically caused?
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979. We think so.
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980. Can you identify the genes
which cause it?
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981. In the average patient, not yet.
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982. No. So, if I have
high cholesterol
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983. and I die of a heart attack
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984. it may have been
genetically predetermined?
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985. Yes.
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986. But you're saying
that Sean Webster,
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987. and not his genetic make-up,
is responsible for his violence?
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988. Dr. Huang?
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989. It's not that simple.
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990. Thank you.
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991. I was thinking the same thing.
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992. I wasn't finished.
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993. Dr. Sopher identifies
violent people
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994. after they've committed
hate crimes.
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995. That doesn't mean
she can predict violence
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996. based on their brain patterns.
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997. No more than you can predict
someone having a heart attack
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998. based solely
on their cholesterol level.
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999. But your rabbi or minister could
become violent at any moment.
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1000. Any of us could.
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1001. My point, thank you.
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1002. That includes Sean Webster.
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1003. When I was a kid, I
was always in trouble.
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1004. The school sent me
to a therapist,
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1005. but it never helped.
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1006. What kind of trouble?
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1007. Fights mostly.
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1008. Who did you fight?
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1009. Arabs.
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1010. People like Tariq Assad
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1011. and Mira Elbisi?
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1012. Yeah.
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1013. What made you choose them?
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1014. I saw this poster for
a panel they were on.
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1015. I went and I listened.
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1016. You know, they say
that they're our friends.
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1017. They're more dangerous
than the ones
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1018. who admit they're our enemies.
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1019. Did you hear voices telling you
to kill them?
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1020. No, sir.
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1021. Crazy people hear voices.
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1022. I'm not crazy.
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1023. But, still, you felt
you had to kill them.
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1024. They hate and want to destroy
our country.
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1025. Do you think killing people
is wrong?
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1026. We kill people in wars,
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1027. and we're at war
with these people, right?
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1028. Thank you.
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1029. Your witness.
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1030. So you hate Muslims.
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1031. Do you hate black people,
too, Sean?
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1032. No, ma'am.
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1033. Well, I mean, except
for the ones who are Muslims.
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1034. Do you hate the Chinese,
Japanese?
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1035. No, ma'am.
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1036. So your hatred's
pretty specific.
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1037. Muslims come here,
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1038. and they study
engineering and aviation,
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1039. and then they use it
to attack us,
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1040. and we fought for them
in Bosnia,
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1041. and my dad fought for them
in Desert Storm,
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1042. and he died for his country.
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1043. They killed your father?
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1044. Muslims killed your father?
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1045. And they turn around,
and they attack us!
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1046. And they're gonna explode
chemical warfare in the subways!
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1047. Sean!
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1048. And poison our water supplies
and blow up bridges!
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1049. Your Honor, may
we have a recess?
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1050. I'm going to recess
while the defendant
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1051. regains control
of himself.
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1052. while they stockpile weapons
of mass destruction!
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1053. He said his father
died in Desert Storm.
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1054. I need to know whether Sean
killed out of hate or revenge.
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1055. Find out how
the father died.
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1056. Casey, just accept it.
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1057. It's over.
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1058. If you want a deal,
the answer is no.
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1059. I thought you'd jump
at the chance.
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1060. I wouldn't give you
the satisfaction.
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1061. The jury's buying it.
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1062. See, they understand hatred
'cause at one point,
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1063. they've hated
someone themselves.
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1064. Well, none of them
have killed three people.
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1065. But they understand
the impulse,
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1066. and they won't
blame Sean for his.
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1067. No deal.
There's no way I acknowledge
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1068. an ounce of validity
in this cockamamie defense.
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1069. You will realize
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1070. that it's based on speculation,
on maybes and could bes.
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1071. On maybes and...
( knocking on door )
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1072. Practicing your summation?
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1073. Yeah. It's
not working.
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1074. It may not have to.
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1075. I think I found what you wanted.
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1076. Seth Webster—
that's Sean Webster's father—
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1077. he fought in Desert Storm...
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1078. didn't die there.
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1079. What's this about?
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1080. You still want a deal?
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1081. You've come to your senses.
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1082. It's about you coming to yours.
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1083. He pleads three counts,
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1084. Murder Two,
consecutive sentences.
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1085. Have a nice day.
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1086. Who's this?
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1087. Get him out.
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1088. Don't you want
to introduce Dad?
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1089. Sean, what's going on?
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1090. He never told you?
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1091. His father met
an Arab woman
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1092. in Kuwait,
divorced Sean's mother,
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1093. remarried and moved to Detroit.
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1094. You still think
it's genetics, Oliver?
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1095. Why don't you
just go back
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1096. to where you came from.
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1097. Go back to your Arab whore.
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1098. Sean, I'm sorry.
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1099. What do you care, hmm?
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1100. Because this is my fault.
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1101. Yeah, you're damn right
it's your fault.
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1102. My mom told me
that you died a hero,
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1103. and you never came around
to tell me different.
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1104. I go to get benefits
for college,
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1105. and I find out
that he's still alive.
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1106. Sean, listen,
I wanted to see you.
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1107. Your mother wouldn't let me.
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1108. She had custody.
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1109. She threatened that
if I even tried to come visit...
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1110. Liar!
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1111. You were too busy with your
half-breed kids! Admit it!
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1112. She filled your head
with all this crap
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1113. about Arabs
because she was angry with me.
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1114. Can't you see that?
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1115. She poisoned you with her hate.
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1116. My mom worked her ass off
to take care of me!
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1117. You never gave a damn!
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1118. Oh, Sean.
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1119. I hate your stinking guts!
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1120. If I had a gun right now,
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1121. I'd shoot you in the head,
and then I'd go back
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1122. and I'd set your wife
and your bastard kids on fire!
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1123. Get off me!
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1124. Sean Webster wasn't born
that way.
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1125. I don't believe anyone is.
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1126. It takes a human being
to teach you to hate.
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1127. "Some mysteries past
all understanding."
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1128. Letters of St. Paul.
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1129. The Muslim who Sean Webster
killed at Central Booking?
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1130. He had friends.
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1131. Webster was just stabbed
to death in the yard at Rikers.
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