1. In the criminal justice system,Copy !req
2. the people are represented
by two separate yet equally important groups,Copy !req
3. the police
who investigate crimeCopy !req
4. and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.Copy !req
5. These are their stories.Copy !req
6. Hey, so who do you
like in the third?Copy !req
7. Alby's Gal.Copy !req
8. You gotta be kidding.
Her last start...Copy !req
9. She was over-matched. But I still lost.Copy !req
10. Who told you
to bet?Copy !req
11. You did.Copy !req
12. Hey, I just told you
who I liked.Copy !req
13. Sam, Alby's Gal in the third.Copy !req
14. When's the last time
you picked a winner?Copy !req
15. Maryland Princess.Copy !req
16. Get out of here.Copy !req
17. Are you all right? Are you okay?Copy !req
18. Oh, my God, what happened?Copy !req
19. It was their scheduled run.
They come twice a day.Copy !req
20. You notice anyone
casing the place?Copy !req
21. No. I was just
walking with them, talking.Copy !req
22. About what? The third race.Copy !req
23. I gave them a good tip, too.
Alby's Gal. Came in 38 bucks to win.Copy !req
24. They should have bet.Copy !req
25. Thanks.Copy !req
26. All this body armor,
and they forgot the bullet-proof ski mask.Copy !req
27. The other one's
on the way to the hospital.Copy !req
28. Tell me
this hump has a wallet.Copy !req
29. "Audentes fortuna juvat"?Copy !req
30. "Audentes fortuna juvat."Copy !req
31. Yeah. Jesse James
and his dead partner both have the same tattoo,Copy !req
32. an eagle with what?Copy !req
33. "Fortune favors
the brave."Copy !req
34. What'd you get
from that guy?Copy !req
35. A long shot.
Alby's Gal. Paid $38 to win.Copy !req
36. He thinks the guards
should have bet.Copy !req
37. I guess it wasn't
their lucky day.Copy !req
38. Male, 45 to 50. No needle marks.Copy !req
39. Drug panel was clean.
He kept himself in shape.Copy !req
40. Thickened skin on the
index finger of the left hand.Copy !req
41. He could have
been a carpenter.Copy !req
42. Hammer kept
missing the nail?Copy !req
43. Or a do-it-yourselfer.
These scars, from the knee to the hip,Copy !req
44. fragments of something hit him
at fairly high velocity.Copy !req
45. The bird house
he was building blew up?Copy !req
46. Maybe a car accident.Copy !req
47. Or shrapnel. See how
the skin is stretched?Copy !req
48. Old wounds.
20, 30 years.Copy !req
49. What about the tattoo?Copy !req
50. Within the year.
Mid-life crisis.Copy !req
51. Some guys get a Harley,
some get a tattoo.Copy !req
52. And what did you get?Copy !req
53. 27-year-old boyfriend.Copy !req
54. Good for you, Rodgers.Copy !req
55. MAC-11s. Both of them.
Take a look at the slide mechanism.Copy !req
56. The releases are filed down.Copy !req
57. It's been modified
from semi to full auto.Copy !req
58. Yeah. Our do-it-yourselfer
isn't just a carpenter.Copy !req
59. Modifications like that
aren't hard,Copy !req
60. if you know
what you're doing.Copy !req
61. What about the bullet
that killed the guard? Wells?Copy !req
62. Didn't come
from these guns.Copy !req
63. The guy that got away?Copy !req
64. The residue in the casings
indicates that all three gunsCopy !req
65. used the same
kind of ammunition.Copy !req
66. Centerfire.
American-made, most likely.Copy !req
67. From the proportions of lead,
barium, and antimony,Copy !req
68. I'd say a non-standard mix.Copy !req
69. Extra kick. Something
they cooked up at home?Copy !req
70. Sure, depending on
the home.Copy !req
71. Yeah, but not something
you'd find in Martha Stewart.Copy !req
72. The good news is,
the second guard's gonna make it.Copy !req
73. And the perp
in the hospital?Copy !req
74. John Doe's
still unconscious.Copy !req
75. But Latent rolled
his prints and the DOA's.Copy !req
76. And the third guy
disappeared into thin air.Copy !req
77. The guy
in the red windbreaker.Copy !req
78. Not just red.Copy !req
79. Witnesses from the NYB,
from the street,Copy !req
80. we got fire-engine red,
cherry red.Copy !req
81. Crimson.Copy !req
82. So our fugitive's
windbreaker's noticeable.Copy !req
83. Everyone's looking
at the windbreaker. They don't see anything else.Copy !req
84. Prints taken off the DOA
and the one in a coma.Copy !req
85. Matthew Brant, the DOA,
and our Mr. Doe is Greg Kubie.Copy !req
86. Both guys are from
the suburbs, Hastings.Copy !req
87. Criminal records?Copy !req
88. Not a traffic ticket
between them, Brant was a vet.Copy !req
89. Kubie's a cop.Copy !req
90. Yeah. Hastings PD.Copy !req
91. It's him.Copy !req
92. I know this is hard.Copy !req
93. Was your husband
having money problems?Copy !req
94. Any trouble at work?Copy !req
95. No.Copy !req
96. The third man
we're looking for,Copy !req
97. do you have any idea
who that might be?Copy !req
98. Other wives,
how do they react?Copy !req
99. Everyone reacts
in a different...Copy !req
100. Have any of the other wives
called you sadists?Copy !req
101. My husband
was a good man.Copy !req
102. Two or three times a week,
at dinner time...Copy !req
103. Mom.Copy !req
104. his old students
stopped by to tell him how he changed their lives.Copy !req
105. He was not a criminal.
What right did you have to kill him?Copy !req
106. Kay?Copy !req
107. Hey, Kay.
Kay, Kay, Kay...Copy !req
108. Easy.Copy !req
109. If you'll excuse me.Copy !req
110. I'm Mrs. Brant's brother,
Phil Christie.Copy !req
111. Your sister's
having a hard time.Copy !req
112. Is that a photo of Matt?
Do you mind?Copy !req
113. It really is him.
It's unbelievable.Copy !req
114. Did you know
your brother-in-law owned a gun?Copy !req
115. That's not unusual
up here.Copy !req
116. A MAC-11?Copy !req
117. Do you know a guy
named Greg Kubie?Copy !req
118. Yeah, once or twice a year,
he sat in on a poker game we got going.Copy !req
119. Was your brother-in-law
tight with anyone in particular besides Kubie?Copy !req
120. This is a friendly community.
Matt had a lot of friends.Copy !req
121. Any of them
with eagle tattoos?Copy !req
122. Your brother-in-law and Kubie
had the same tattoo.Copy !req
123. It's the first
I heard of it.Copy !req
124. Two days ago,
I was having breakfast with him.Copy !req
125. Today, they tell me
he's murderedCopy !req
126. because he's trying
to rob an armored car.Copy !req
127. He wasn't murdered.
The guard he was robbing shot him in self-defense.Copy !req
128. Matt was one of
the most decent men I have ever known.Copy !req
129. I'm gonna go
check on my sister. Excuse me.Copy !req
130. That was Profaci.Copy !req
131. Nothing at Kubie's place
except for three-day-old pizza.Copy !req
132. Brant and Kubie
had the same tattoo.Copy !req
133. You want to give me odds
the third guy has one, too?Copy !req
134. How many tattoo parlors
can there be in a town this size?Copy !req
135. Yeah, 10-12 guys, right,
came in maybe last March, April,Copy !req
136. eagle tattoos
with something in Latin.Copy !req
137. All at the same time?Copy !req
138. Three together.Copy !req
139. Then, a couple of guys
three weeks later ask for the same design,Copy !req
140. the next week, two guys.
Like that.Copy !req
141. You keep a record?Copy !req
142. They came in with a picture,
something from a computer thing.Copy !req
143. Did they tell you
what it was for? A club or a gang?Copy !req
144. It's not my business to ask.Copy !req
145. Here. One of them
paid by check.Copy !req
146. Thomas Robbins.Copy !req
147. The tattoos? A gag.Copy !req
148. A few of us got drunk
one night, made a bet.Copy !req
149. The next morning,
I forgot I had it.Copy !req
150. I get out of bed.
Boy, was my wife pissed.Copy !req
151. Who made the bet?Copy !req
152. Tony Lapella,
Al Goodman, Matt Brant...Copy !req
153. You know Brant well?Copy !req
154. Since high school.
A decent guy.Copy !req
155. History teacher,
basketball coach, active in the church.Copy !req
156. What about
Greg Kubie?Copy !req
157. Never met him.
I guess he saw the tattoo on one of my buddies.Copy !req
158. Yeah, I guess so.Copy !req
159. Everybody in town's
been talking about it,Copy !req
160. and I don't know
what did or didn't happen,Copy !req
161. but one thing I do know is,
Matt Brant couldn't hold up anyone.Copy !req
162. And the 20 or 30 witnesses?Copy !req
163. Mind if I use your phone?Copy !req
164. Yeah.Copy !req
165. So, where were you
on Tuesday at 2:00 p.m.?Copy !req
166. A bunch of guys get a tattoo,
they got to be crooks? Is that it?Copy !req
167. Two guys rob an armored car,
they both have the same tattoo,Copy !req
168. we have to take that
into consideration.Copy !req
169. Day before yesterday,
2:00 p.m.,Copy !req
170. I was just finishing
meals-on-wheels.Copy !req
171. Every week,
same time, same day.Copy !req
172. We're not like you guys
in New York.Copy !req
173. Kubie just
regained consciousness.Copy !req
174. If I wanted a lawyer,
I'd hire one. But, Mr. Kubie...Copy !req
175. Who have you
talked to about my case?Copy !req
176. No one, but I still
think it's important...Copy !req
177. Get out.Copy !req
178. These are detectives.
I'd advise you...Copy !req
179. Get the hell out!Copy !req
180. You can get out, too.Copy !req
181. Why don't we just...Copy !req
182. I have the right
to remain silent.Copy !req
183. Officer Kubie...Copy !req
184. Anything I say
can be used against me in a court of law.Copy !req
185. Look, I got nothing
to say to you.Copy !req
186. Cops. What a pain.
He's not gonna roll easy.Copy !req
187. Hey, that tattoo artist,
she said they came inCopy !req
188. with a picture
printed from a computer.Copy !req
189. I type in what
we're looking for, eagle graphicsCopy !req
190. and the motto
"Audentes fortuna juvat."Copy !req
191. The search engine
does the rest.Copy !req
192. If it's anywhere
on the Internet, we'll get a hit.Copy !req
193. One of these days,
you'll have to teach meCopy !req
194. how to play solitaire
on that thing.Copy !req
195. Bingo. This shows us
where to find it.Copy !req
196. Let's surf the Net.Copy !req
197. The New Sons
of Liberty homepage. It's a militia.Copy !req
198. Maybe Jesse James
and his palsCopy !req
199. were trying to
finance a revolution.Copy !req
200. What you're saying is,
I've got this tattoo,Copy !req
201. it means
I belong to this group, the New Sons of Liberty?Copy !req
202. Do you?Copy !req
203. How about you, Detective?
Are you active in politics?Copy !req
204. How about
answering my question?Copy !req
205. I figure you for
a disappointed Democrat,Copy !req
206. or maybe
a disappointed Republican?Copy !req
207. You're disappointed
in something.Copy !req
208. It's a nice computer
you got there.Copy !req
209. Is that where you keep
your virtual clubhouse?Copy !req
210. You thinking of dropping in?
Maybe signing up?Copy !req
211. Depends on the dues.
Cops get a special rate?Copy !req
212. "Congress shall make
no law abridging the freedom of speechCopy !req
213. "or the right of
the people to assemble,Copy !req
214. "and to
petition the government for a redress of grievances."Copy !req
215. I don't have to
tell you anything about my politics.Copy !req
216. "What about Waco?Copy !req
217. "The Feds pumped
the Davidian compound full of CS,Copy !req
218. "which is highly flammable,
and then started the fire which killed women and kids."Copy !req
219. "The FBI infrared
surveillance tape made at WacoCopy !req
220. "shows flashes
coming from the FBI forcesCopy !req
221. "that could have been
incendiary fire."Copy !req
222. It's 3:00 in the morning.Copy !req
223. That's when they
come out of the woodwork.Copy !req
224. "It was a show of force
to scare off anyoneCopy !req
225. "who wants to
fight Big Brother.Copy !req
226. "We've got to learn
how to defend ourselves."Copy !req
227. "I'm ready.Copy !req
228. "Do you know any websites
where I can find out more?"Copy !req
229. What are you doing?Copy !req
230. I'm looking for
the black helicopters.Copy !req
231. They don't come
near urban centers.Copy !req
232. Lennie, we're in.Copy !req
233. You got this
from a chat room?Copy !req
234. A New Sons
of Liberty sub-site.Copy !req
235. Which we found
through a chat room.Copy !req
236. This tells you how to
modify a semi-automatic weapon to full autoCopy !req
237. in the same way the guns used
in the robbery were modified.Copy !req
238. Are we sure one of
the New Sons of Liberty posted it?Copy !req
239. No, but it's a connection.Copy !req
240. It's a stretch.Copy !req
241. Your Honor, if I publish
a magazine articleCopy !req
242. by an anonymous author
on how to make a bomb...Copy !req
243. You're gonna protect
your anonymous author.Copy !req
244. But if that article
advocates using that bomb...Copy !req
245. Can I subpoena your notes
to find out the identity of the author?Copy !req
246. We're on very
murky ground here.Copy !req
247. This is speech protected
by the First Amendment.Copy !req
248. With these instructions,
the New Sons of LibertyCopy !req
249. advocate illegal use
of automatic weapons.Copy !req
250. It's no longer free speech,
it's a verbal act. An illegal act.Copy !req
251. I don't know.
I don't like this.Copy !req
252. My daughter just had a baby.
A girl. Two weeks ago.Copy !req
253. I want her to have
the same freedoms I've had.Copy !req
254. And if she becomes
an armored car guard?Copy !req
255. Give me the paper.Copy !req
256. I figured you'd be back.Copy !req
257. With a warrant?Copy !req
258. I was going to say
with stormtroopers.Copy !req
259. Look, why don't you
make it easy on all of usCopy !req
260. and just give us a list
of the New Sons of Liberty?Copy !req
261. Am I under arrest? No.Copy !req
262. Lock up when you're done.Copy !req
263. Keep an eye on him.Copy !req
264. The New Sons of Liberty
membership list. Twenty in all.Copy !req
265. A nice round number.Copy !req
266. Not enough to
start a revolution.Copy !req
267. More than enough
to rob an armored car.Copy !req
268. We need search warrants
for their homes and workplacesCopy !req
269. to be executed
simultaneously.Copy !req
270. 6:00 a.m.Copy !req
271. A big show of force.Copy !req
272. Will the department
back you up on this?Copy !req
273. I'll get the money.Copy !req
274. Then, I'll get the warrants.Copy !req
275. What are you looking for?
My son is only 17!Copy !req
276. The New Sons of Liberty
don't have an age limit.Copy !req
277. Read the warrant.
If you have any questions, I'll be glad to answer them.Copy !req
278. Why don't you check out
that cabinet over there.Copy !req
279. Hey, Sergeant. Yes, sir?Copy !req
280. Open this up.Copy !req
281. We hit the mother lode
in the crawl space.Copy !req
282. "A well-regulated militia
being necessary to the security of a free state,Copy !req
283. "the right of the people
to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."Copy !req
284. Look at this,
full autos, AK-47s, a couple of MAS.223s,Copy !req
285. a bunch of M16s,
boxes of ammo.Copy !req
286. Yeah. Enough guns
to take over Staten Island.Copy !req
287. Take a picture
and send it to Charlton Heston.Copy !req
288. Pack this stuff up.
Take everybody downtown.Copy !req
289. Okay. Let's go now.Copy !req
290. Cray, Lewis,
March 21, 1965. Private, New Sons of Liberty, 016.Copy !req
291. Okay, Mr. Cray, Lewis.Copy !req
292. We're gonna need to know
your whereaboutsCopy !req
293. on the afternoon
of Tuesday, August 8th.Copy !req
294. Cray, Lewis.
March 21st...Copy !req
295. 1951. Sergeant,
New Sons of Liberty, 004.Copy !req
296. 004? What are you,
James Bond minus three?Copy !req
297. Robbins, Thomas.
October 15th...Copy !req
298. 1980. Private,
New Sons of Liberty, 018.Copy !req
299. Listen up, tin soldier,Copy !req
300. this is no game.Copy !req
301. Felony murder means
a needle in the arm,Copy !req
302. so if you don't want to be
the sucker on the slab, wise up.Copy !req
303. Brant, Matthew Jr.
December 18th, 1980. Private...Copy !req
304. Automatic weapons,
munitions, body armor.Copy !req
305. Is that what the robbery
was for, more guns? Bigger guns?Copy !req
306. Christie, Philip.
August 4th, 1962.Copy !req
307. Major,
New Sons of Liberty, 002.Copy !req
308. LT, you have a call.Copy !req
309. Make sure
the Major is comfortable.Copy !req
310. So far I've got calls
from the ATF, the FBI,Copy !req
311. the whole alphabet soup down
in Washington.Copy !req
312. Let them take a number.Copy !req
313. It's our case, New York City.
They have no jurisdiction.Copy !req
314. They took
jurisdiction in Waco.Copy !req
315. The murder weapon?Copy !req
316. Not among the ones we found.Copy !req
317. They're smart.
Probably tossed it in the Hudson.Copy !req
318. Well, if it's any consolation,
we have the militia members' printsCopy !req
319. all over the guns.Copy !req
320. But no connection
to the murder.Copy !req
321. So after all that,
we charge them with simple gun possession.Copy !req
322. They post bail.
We look like fascists or idiots, take your pick.Copy !req
323. McCoy. It's for you.Copy !req
324. Yeah?Copy !req
325. Thanks for calling.Copy !req
326. Ballistics.
The special powder in the ammunition,Copy !req
327. the home-load
used in the robbery,Copy !req
328. they found it
in the arsenal seized in Christie's house.Copy !req
329. But we don't have
the murder weapon.Copy !req
330. The hell with it.Copy !req
331. Conspiracy to commit murder
and robbery. Charge them all.Copy !req
332. "Docket number 57643,Copy !req
333. "the People v.
Philip Christie, Thomas Robbins, et al.Copy !req
334. "Murder in the First Degree,
Attempted Murder in the First Degree,Copy !req
335. "Conspiracy in
the First Degree,Copy !req
336. "Attempted Grand Larceny
in the First Degree."Copy !req
337. Ms. Mandel,
how do they plead?Copy !req
338. Your Honor,
as ranking officerCopy !req
339. my co-defendants
have chosen me to act as our own counsel.Copy !req
340. Are you a lawyer?Copy !req
341. I've worked as a bailiff.
I know about your rules and procedures.Copy !req
342. You file the motion,
the court will consider it.Copy !req
343. Now enter a plea.Copy !req
344. Your Honor,
for all defendants on all charges, not guilty.Copy !req
345. Your Honor,
the People request remand.Copy !req
346. Your Honor, we move
that all charges be dismissedCopy !req
347. on the grounds that
we are prisoners of warCopy !req
348. under the terms of
the Geneva Convention.Copy !req
349. What?Copy !req
350. Mr. Christie, this is
a civilian criminal court.Copy !req
351. I have no authority
to rule on your motion.Copy !req
352. You do,Copy !req
353. Your Honor.
That flag has fringes on it,Copy !req
354. which means it is
a military flag.Copy !req
355. Which means this court
is a military tribunal.Copy !req
356. You must recognize us
as prisoners of war exempt from trial.Copy !req
357. Our motion...Copy !req
358. Mr. Christie, I don't care
how many fringes,Copy !req
359. bells and whistles
are on this flag,Copy !req
360. this is a civilian
criminal court. Got it?Copy !req
361. Bail is set at $1 million
for each defendant. Next case.Copy !req
362. Prisoners of war?
What's he talking about?Copy !req
363. The New Sons of Liberty
believe they're at war with the US Government.Copy !req
364. And Son of Sam
got his marching orders from a dog.Copy !req
365. It's nonsense.Copy !req
366. Have you read
their manifesto?Copy !req
367. "For the sake
of global trade,Copy !req
368. "low wages and high profits,
the US Government has mortgaged its sovereigntyCopy !req
369. "to global interests,
and has endowed the FBI, the ATF, and the CIACopy !req
370. "with extraordinary powers
to enforce this new world order."Copy !req
371. You could make
a case for that.Copy !req
372. Have you started
wearing fatigues under your clothes?Copy !req
373. Jack, these are not
religious fanatics living on a compound.Copy !req
374. They're articulate... Misguided...Copy !req
375. Definitely,
but don't underestimate them. They've got lots of support.Copy !req
376. They've already raised
six of the $20 million they need,Copy !req
377. from every
state in the union,Copy !req
378. not one contribution
over $500.Copy !req
379. And who was this
guard they killed? A redcoat?Copy !req
380. You need to prove
there was a conspiracy.Copy !req
381. Seventy rounds fired,
two dead. No problem with the overt act.Copy !req
382. And your proof
of the agreement to commit the robbery?Copy !req
383. So far no one's
rolled on that.Copy !req
384. The agreement
can be inferredCopy !req
385. from membership
in the New Sons of Liberty.Copy !req
386. Guilt by association?Copy !req
387. If it's an association
dedicated to murder and mayhem, why not?Copy !req
388. Now I have to
take him seriously.Copy !req
389. Christie got his motion
in front of Judge Scarletti.Copy !req
390. Just be sure we don't
have to go to The Hague to try this case.Copy !req
391. Ha!Copy !req
392. The Geneva Convention
defines prisoners of warCopy !req
393. as "persons who have fallen
into the power of the enemy."Copy !req
394. The enemy being
the District Attorney?Copy !req
395. And any office or
branch of any governmentCopy !req
396. which is not constituted
of and by the people.Copy !req
397. Your Honor,
how long are we going to humor this man?Copy !req
398. On its face, this is
a patently absurd motion.Copy !req
399. Mr. McCoy, please.Copy !req
400. Go on, Mr. Christie.Copy !req
401. Under the convention,
such prisoners of warCopy !req
402. include the armed forces
of a party to a conflict,Copy !req
403. as well as
members of militia or volunteer corps,Copy !req
404. including members
of an organized resistance movement.Copy !req
405. Your Honor,
the convention protects combatants,Copy !req
406. not common criminals.Copy !req
407. It requires the existence
of an open, armed conflict.Copy !req
408. Lexington, Concord,
Bunker Hill,Copy !req
409. the Revolutionary War
was fought for monthsCopy !req
410. before hostilities
were officially declared.Copy !req
411. They didn't attack
an Army base.Copy !req
412. They robbed a New York
State Betting Office.Copy !req
413. At best, they're terrorists.Copy !req
414. Mr. Christie's so-called army
amounts to 20-odd hoodlums.Copy !req
415. Twenty? 1,000? 10,000?Copy !req
416. How many have to believe
what I believeCopy !req
417. before you recognize
my right to say,Copy !req
418. "This is wrong,
this must be changed"?Copy !req
419. Mr. Christie, this isn't
a First Amendment issue.Copy !req
420. Your motion has
been tried in the pastCopy !req
421. by the Black Panthers
and by other groups.Copy !req
422. Granting it
would give license to any criminal organizationCopy !req
423. to circumvent
the criminal justice systemCopy !req
424. by declaring themselves
at war with the government. Motion denied.Copy !req
425. As to your motion
to act as your own counsel, it's granted.Copy !req
426. But I want Ms. Mandel to
serve as your legal advisor.Copy !req
427. Now, we're going to trial.Copy !req
428. Did you compare
the gunpowder found in Mr. Christie's basementCopy !req
429. to that found at
the crime scene?Copy !req
430. Yes, sir.Copy !req
431. And what did you find?Copy !req
432. "We hold these truths
to be self-evident..."Copy !req
433. Silence!"... that all men
are created equal."Copy !req
434. Silence in the court!Copy !req
435. "That they are
endowed by their creator..."Copy !req
436. Silence in the court!Copy !req
437. "... with certain
unalienable rights..."Copy !req
438. Bailiff,
please remove the defendant.Copy !req
439. Order in the court.Copy !req
440. "... that among
these are life, liberty,Copy !req
441. "and the pursuit
of happiness.Copy !req
442. "That to secure these rights
governments are instituted among men..."Copy !req
443. Your Honor,
I object to this removal.Copy !req
444. Overruled.Copy !req
445. We will make provisions
for the defendantCopy !req
446. to observe
the procedures of this courtCopy !req
447. through closed-circuit
television.Copy !req
448. You may sit down,
Mr. Christie.Copy !req
449. Mr. McCoy,
you may continue.Copy !req
450. Did you compare
the gunpowder found in Mr. Christie's basementCopy !req
451. to the gunpowder
at the murder scene?Copy !req
452. Yes, sir. Both had
the same distinctive chemical composition.Copy !req
453. In my opinion,
they were from the same batch.Copy !req
454. Thank you.Copy !req
455. Do you pay taxes?Copy !req
456. Objection. Sustained.Copy !req
457. Have you ever
read the ConstitutionCopy !req
458. of the United States
of America?Copy !req
459. Objection. Sustained.Copy !req
460. No more questions.Copy !req
461. Yeah, I carried a gun.
But I never thought I'd have to shoot anyone.Copy !req
462. It was crazy.
Suddenly...Copy !req
463. "That whenever
any form of government..."Copy !req
464. Order in the court!Copy !req
465. "... becomes
destructive of these ends..."I warned you!Copy !req
466. "... it is the right of
the people to alter..."Copy !req
467. Bailiff, remove the defendant!Copy !req
468. "... or to
abolish it and to..."Get him out of my court.Copy !req
469. "... institute new government
laying its foundation..."Copy !req
470. You hear me?"... on such principlesCopy !req
471. "and organizing its powers
in such form..."Copy !req
472. "Governments are
instituted among men..."Copy !req
473. You were saying, Mr. Parent?Copy !req
474. Suddenly,
everybody was shooting.Copy !req
475. What do you know about
the new world order?Copy !req
476. Before this trial,
I never heard of it.Copy !req
477. Do you work for it?Copy !req
478. No, sir.Copy !req
479. What branch
of the government do you work for?Copy !req
480. No branch.
I work for the Stevens Securities Transfer Company.Copy !req
481. Thank you.Copy !req
482. Mr. Parent, who owns
the Stevens Securities Transfer Company?Copy !req
483. I don't know.Copy !req
484. Who's on the board?Copy !req
485. I don't know.Copy !req
486. Could they be working for
a multinational corporation...Copy !req
487. Objection.Copy !req
488. Sustained.Copy !req
489. How about
New York Bets?Copy !req
490. What? Who owns it?Copy !req
491. The State, I guess.New York State?Copy !req
492. Yeah.Copy !req
493. Do you know who actually
runs New York Bets?Copy !req
494. No.Copy !req
495. And you didn't vote
for any of them, did you?Copy !req
496. Objection. JUDGE SCARLETTI: Sustained.Copy !req
497. Mr. Christie,
if you have no relevant questions, you may sit down.Copy !req
498. I have questions
the jury may find relevant.Copy !req
499. Your
cross-examination is over. The witness is excused.Copy !req
500. They weren't called
the New Sons of Liberty then.Copy !req
501. A few years ago,
my brother, Phil, and my husbandCopy !req
502. used to sit around
the kitchen tableCopy !req
503. and talk about
how the FBI shot that woman and her baby at Ruby Ridge,Copy !req
504. about how no one
in the government cared about anythingCopy !req
505. but the special interests.Copy !req
506. Special interests?Copy !req
507. If you're rich or poor,
the government pays attention.Copy !req
508. But the average family
in America doesn't stand a chance.Copy !req
509. Like what happened
with my brotherCopy !req
510. when the government
wouldn't let him see his kids after the divorceCopy !req
511. and they gave custody
to his wife.Copy !req
512. At any time,
did your husband discuss plans for a robbery with you?Copy !req
513. Well, the more involved
Matt got with the group, the angrier he got.Copy !req
514. And it wasn't like
he was angry at anything in particular.Copy !req
515. It was almost like
he was angry at our life,Copy !req
516. at what we had,
at what we didn't have.Copy !req
517. After a while,
I could hardly talk to him anymore.Copy !req
518. Mrs. Brant, did he ever
talk about a robbery with you?Copy !req
519. Matt woke me up one night,
after Phil and the others had been there,Copy !req
520. and he told me
they had planned a robbery,Copy !req
521. and that he had volunteered
for the mission,Copy !req
522. and there was
some danger involved,Copy !req
523. and that if
anything happened to him,Copy !req
524. he wanted me to know
that he did it for my sakeCopy !req
525. and for Matt Jr.,
for the country.Copy !req
526. And what did you say?Copy !req
527. I told him
I didn't understand.Copy !req
528. I didn't understand.Copy !req
529. The government
wasn't bothering us.Copy !req
530. I didn't understand
why they had to commit a crime.Copy !req
531. Thank you.Copy !req
532. Mrs. Brant,Copy !req
533. was your decision to testify
coerced in any way?Copy !req
534. Objection.Copy !req
535. Sustained.Copy !req
536. Did Mr. McCoy
offer you anythingCopy !req
537. in exchange
for your testimony?Copy !req
538. Objection.Copy !req
539. Overruled.Copy !req
540. Answer the question,
Mrs. Brant.Copy !req
541. Mr. McCoy said if I testify,
he'd sever my son's caseCopy !req
542. and try him
on reduced charges.Copy !req
543. No! No, Mom!
You shouldn't have done this!Copy !req
544. Turning mother and son
against each other.Copy !req
545. Order in the court!Copy !req
546. Mr. Christie,
please sit down.Copy !req
547. Do you think
the American peopleCopy !req
548. are gonna stand by and watch
as you tear a family apart?Copy !req
549. Bailiff,
will you sit the defendant back down?Copy !req
550. Remove those defendants!Copy !req
551. Remove those defendants!Copy !req
552. No!Copy !req
553. Remove those defendants!Copy !req
554. Christie's master plan.
Look at his witness list.Copy !req
555. The directors of the CIA,
the NSA, the President.Copy !req
556. The judge excludes them,
Christie yells cover-up.Copy !req
557. When you have no case... Right.Copy !req
558. It leaves him
with just one witness,Copy !req
559. himself.Copy !req
560. Ross. Uh-huh.Copy !req
561. Uh-huh. We'll be right over.Copy !req
562. That was
Judge Scarletti's clerk.Copy !req
563. There's a problem
with one of the jurors.Copy !req
564. Mr. Shelby, it has
come to my attentionCopy !req
565. that you passed
some reading material on to another juror.Copy !req
566. Yes, sir.
To Bob Clark.Copy !req
567. It's a newspaper.Copy !req
568. Is this it?
The Crisis.Copy !req
569. Yes, sir. It's named
after the newspaper published in 1776.Copy !req
570. How would you characterize
this newspaper?Copy !req
571. "Our new army
at both ends of the continent is recruiting fast,Copy !req
572. "and we shall be able
to open the next campaign with 60,000 men."Copy !req
573. Isn't this inflammatory?Copy !req
574. It's a quote.
From Thomas Paine, one of the founding fathers.Copy !req
575. In the voir dire,
you were askedCopy !req
576. if you had any opinionsCopy !req
577. which might prevent you
from judging this case objectively.Copy !req
578. I believe I can
judge it objectively.Copy !req
579. You told Mr. Clark
that you and some of the other jurorsCopy !req
580. had made up their minds
to acquit.Copy !req
581. You said you wanted
to send a message.Copy !req
582. What message
would that be, Mr. Shelby?Copy !req
583. In this country,
the people and not the courts are sovereign.Copy !req
584. Isn't that right,
Your Honor?Copy !req
585. Thank you, Mr. Shelby,
you can go.Copy !req
586. So, Your Honor,
he's dismissed?Copy !req
587. Why? He's going to
exercise his right as a citizenCopy !req
588. and decide the case
on its merits.Copy !req
589. Your Honor, I move you excuse
the entire jury and declare a mistrial.Copy !req
590. Because they might acquit?Copy !req
591. Because Mr. Shelby is
encouraging them to nullify.Copy !req
592. Which is his right
in an illegal trial,Copy !req
593. and you've already thrown out
all my co-defendants.Copy !req
594. Now you want to
throw out the jury, too?Copy !req
595. It's not enough
you have the whole power of government behind you,Copy !req
596. you also have to
rig the verdict.Copy !req
597. You entered the courtroom
with the presumption of innocence,Copy !req
598. just like anyone else.Copy !req
599. The rights that I am fighting
to protect are your rights, too.Copy !req
600. I can defend my own rights,
Mr. Christie.Copy !req
601. Please...Copy !req
602. We'll replace
Mr. Shelby and Mr. Clark with alternates.Copy !req
603. Your Honor. Gentlemen.Copy !req
604. All that Christie needs
is one hold out.Copy !req
605. In the world
of public relations,Copy !req
606. a hung jury
is as good as an acquittal.Copy !req
607. If we can knock just
one more juror off,Copy !req
608. we exhaust the jury pool,
we get a mistrial.Copy !req
609. How do you propose
we do that?Copy !req
610. I think we should find out
everything we can about the other jurors.Copy !req
611. I'll talk to
Briscoe and Curtis.Copy !req
612. Shady stuff.
This fellow Christie,Copy !req
613. he's really
gotten under your skin.Copy !req
614. He's a fanatic.Copy !req
615. Because he believes
what he's saying?Copy !req
616. When you first
applied for a job here, we had an argumentCopy !req
617. about some
anti-war protesters.Copy !req
618. Oh, come on, Adam.Copy !req
619. They broke into
a draft boardCopy !req
620. and poured blood
over the records,Copy !req
621. and you defended them.Copy !req
622. You said a bad law
sometimes demands an illegal act.Copy !req
623. Nobody got killed.Copy !req
624. It was a protest
and they took their punishment.Copy !req
625. I know some of
our ideas sound crazy, or extreme.Copy !req
626. I could talk to you
about Ruby Ridge or WacoCopy !req
627. or I could tell you
how I came to believe that our government,Copy !req
628. a government
I was brought up to love, is a threat to our liberty.Copy !req
629. But none of that
would explain what's happened,Copy !req
630. why we're on trial here.Copy !req
631. The prosecution
says we robbed and murdered.Copy !req
632. And that's all
this trial is about.Copy !req
633. But let me tell you
how I see it.Copy !req
634. Let's say someone
breaks into your houseCopy !req
635. and they threaten you
and your family...Copy !req
636. Your Honor,
objection, the defendant is on the stand as a witness.Copy !req
637. This is summation. Your Honor,Copy !req
638. as the counsel
for the defense,Copy !req
639. I am laying the groundwork
for a line of questioning,Copy !req
640. a line of thought that goes
to the heart of my testimony.Copy !req
641. I'll give you
a little leeway, Mr. Christie.Copy !req
642. Thank you, Your Honor.Copy !req
643. So, if you killed someoneCopy !req
644. who broke into your house
and threatened your family,Copy !req
645. most of you would see that
as an act of self-defense.Copy !req
646. Now, what if an enemy army
occupies your town,Copy !req
647. and what if you
and your neighbors decided to resist...Copy !req
648. Objection, Your Honor.Copy !req
649. Overruled.Copy !req
650. Get to the point,
Mr. Christie.Copy !req
651. Okay.Copy !req
652. So, what if, as part of
the resistance movement,Copy !req
653. you robbed somebody
who was collecting taxes.Copy !req
654. Taxes that would
be used to increaseCopy !req
655. the enemy control
of your town...Copy !req
656. Your Honor!Copy !req
657. New York Bets is
a scam to collect taxes...Copy !req
658. Objection sustained.Copy !req
659. through
a levy on gambling.Copy !req
660. Limit yourself
to direct testimony, Mr. Christie.Copy !req
661. Your Honor...Copy !req
662. I am not going to
allow it, Mr. Christie.Copy !req
663. And if I don't knuckle under,
you'll drag me from court, too!Copy !req
664. Don't try my patience!Copy !req
665. And then who will
be left to defend us?Copy !req
666. That's all.Copy !req
667. According to
Mrs. Brant's testimony, the night before the robbery,Copy !req
668. you met with
Matthew Brant, his son, Thomas Robbins, Lewis Cray,Copy !req
669. and half a dozen others.
Is that true?Copy !req
670. Did you study
the Bushell case in law school, Mr. McCoy?Copy !req
671. Please answer the question.Copy !req
672. 1670.
The case establishedCopy !req
673. the right for
juries to nullify.Copy !req
674. Answer his question,
Mr. Christie.Copy !req
675. I am trying, Your Honor.Copy !req
676. The right for juries
to protect defendants by finding them not guilty,Copy !req
677. evidence of their guilt
notwithstanding.Copy !req
678. A right that
goes back in America to John Peter Zenger,Copy !req
679. and had been used
by black juries to acquit black defendantsCopy !req
680. when they had
been tried unfairly.Copy !req
681. Mr. Christie, what did
you discuss that night with your co-defendants?Copy !req
682. It is a right used
in anti-war casesCopy !req
683. and was defended
almost 25 years agoCopy !req
684. in an article published...Copy !req
685. Objection.
Non-responsive.Copy !req
686. Published by the NYU
law school entitled,Copy !req
687. "Jury Nullification in
the Criminal Justice System"Copy !req
688. by Jack McCoy.Copy !req
689. Sustained, Mr. Christie.Copy !req
690. You wrote this.Copy !req
691. In many ways,
you and I are alike, Mr. McCoy.Copy !req
692. No, we're not.
I don't rob armored cars.Copy !req
693. You were the third robber,
weren't you?Copy !req
694. You killed Walter Wells.Copy !req
695. What's the matter,
Mr. Christie?Copy !req
696. If you believe
what you did was justified, why won't you answer?Copy !req
697. "No person shall be compelled
in any criminal caseCopy !req
698. "to be a witness
against himself."Copy !req
699. No further questions.Copy !req
700. Mr. Christie, do you have any other witnessesCopy !req
701. or evidence to present?Copy !req
702. Since you've excluded
all of my witnesses, no, Your Honor.Copy !req
703. The defense,
the resistance to tyranny, rests.Copy !req
704. I think
we've got what we need to bounce another juror.Copy !req
705. Howard Lamm.Copy !req
706. The blonde guy
with the glasses.Copy !req
707. Late '60s, at Harvard,
he was one of the leaders of the SDS.Copy !req
708. A real firebrand.Copy !req
709. Implied prejudice
against the government.Copy !req
710. Kick Lamm off the jury,
you got your mistrial.Copy !req
711. Where'd you get
this information?Copy !req
712. Police Red Squad records.Copy !req
713. The creeps
who took our picturesCopy !req
714. during demonstrations
in the '60s?Copy !req
715. These files were supposed
to be destroyed years ago.Copy !req
716. Governments
are like elephants. They never forget.Copy !req
717. We're not gonna do this.Copy !req
718. We're not gonna
become the people Christie thinks we are.Copy !req
719. "Tyranny, like hell,
is not easily conquered.Copy !req
720. "Yet we have this
consolation with us, that the harder the conflict,Copy !req
721. "the more glorious
the triumph."Copy !req
722. Tom Paine wrote
that in a pamphletCopy !req
723. that helped rally Americans
to the cause of libertyCopy !req
724. in those dark days
of December 1776.Copy !req
725. We again face dark days.Copy !req
726. Our founding forefathers
fashioned a governmentCopy !req
727. based on life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness.Copy !req
728. Today, instead of life,
we have a job, we have sometimes two jobs.Copy !req
729. Instead of liberty,
we have crushing debt. And happiness?Copy !req
730. We work hard,
husbands and wives, 10-12 hours a day.Copy !req
731. We work weekends,
and at the end of the week we have less.Copy !req
732. We have less real income,
less benefits, less time with our kids.Copy !req
733. The American dream
used to be,Copy !req
734. each generation
was better off than the previous one.Copy !req
735. Are you better off
than your parents?Copy !req
736. Will your children
be better off than you?Copy !req
737. We believe that
our government has been sold to global corporationsCopy !req
738. that are sucking the blood
and the life out of this country.Copy !req
739. It's all right there
in the newspapers, what they're doing.Copy !req
740. NAFTA,
illegal campaign contributions by foreign businessmen,Copy !req
741. the sale of foreign policy.Copy !req
742. These people
don't care about us.Copy !req
743. They don't care
about Americans.Copy !req
744. They care about
their bottom line.Copy !req
745. We are not common criminals.
We are... We are ordinary people like you,Copy !req
746. with jobs and mortgages,
who are willing to lay it all on the lineCopy !req
747. because we are afraid
of losing our freedom.Copy !req
748. But today, you have a chance
to tell the government what you think.Copy !req
749. Seize that opportunity.Copy !req
750. We, the defendants,
are not the only ones on trial here.Copy !req
751. You are on trial here.Copy !req
752. The State tells you
to follow its laws.Copy !req
753. But who lends
the State its power? Who can take it back?Copy !req
754. The judge? Mr. McCoy? No.Copy !req
755. You do. You are the State.
You have the power.Copy !req
756. Freedom starts with a no.Copy !req
757. Will you turn to the State
and say no?Copy !req
758. Okay. Okay.Copy !req
759. This country began
as an experiment in freedom.Copy !req
760. The foundation of that freedom
is equality before the law.Copy !req
761. Everyone, whoever they are,
whatever they may believe,Copy !req
762. must be equally accountable.Copy !req
763. Mr. Christie hopes
you will ignore the evidence and nullify.Copy !req
764. A power, he says,
derives from a higher law.Copy !req
765. I agree that such
a higher law exists.Copy !req
766. And each of you,
as members of the jury, bound yourselves to itCopy !req
767. when you swore,
on your conscience, before God and as a citizen,Copy !req
768. that you would decide
this case on the facts.Copy !req
769. You are asked
to judge one thing,Copy !req
770. were the defendants,
whatever their reasons, whatever their beliefs,Copy !req
771. part of
a criminal conspiracy to commit armed robberyCopy !req
772. and murder!Copy !req
773. These guys
did a great job of memorization.Copy !req
774. Too bad they
didn't learn from it.Copy !req
775. We all remember that phrase
from the Declaration of IndependenceCopy !req
776. about life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness,Copy !req
777. the unalienable
rights of everyone.Copy !req
778. Notice that life
comes first.Copy !req
779. You can forget
everything else about this case,Copy !req
780. if you remember one thing,Copy !req
781. these defendants,
these conspirators, targeted an ordinary citizen,Copy !req
782. someone just like yourselves,
a guy with a job and in the private sector,Copy !req
783. with bills to pay and
a family to take care of,Copy !req
784. and they took his life.Copy !req
785. They took his life!Copy !req
786. If it's okay for them
to shoot him,Copy !req
787. it's okay for them
to shoot anyone,Copy !req
788. including any one of you.Copy !req
789. Without the law
there can be no freedom,Copy !req
790. and without justice
there can be no law.Copy !req
791. Your Honor,
we've been out nine days.Copy !req
792. We've had 40 ballots.
We're unable to reach a verdict.Copy !req
793. Is there
any chance you could agree if you had more time?Copy !req
794. No, Your Honor.Copy !req
795. All right.Copy !req
796. Ladies and gentlemen,
I have no choice but to declare a mistrial.Copy !req
797. Yes!Copy !req
798. The jury is dismissed.Copy !req
799. You did it!
See, see, see.Copy !req
800. Hey, man.MAN 2: All right.Copy !req
801. Admit it, McCoy.
We won.Copy !req
802. You didn't win anything.
The system you want to destroy won.Copy !req
803. See you back here
in a couple of months.Copy !req
804. Enjoy your freedom
while you have it.Copy !req
805. Mr. Christie,
over here.Copy !req
806. If he only knew.
You could've sunk this trial and you didn't.Copy !req
807. You played it straight, Jack.Copy !req
808. That rates
as a moral victory.Copy !req
809. It could be
a hollow oneCopy !req
810. if those clowns could
find even one person who'd acquit them.Copy !req
811. What does that tell you
about this country?Copy !req
812. We want to
thank you all for being objectiveCopy !req
813. in covering this trial
and being supportive...Copy !req