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6. Mr. Feltz.
Mr. Feltz.
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7. Housekeeping.
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doing in here?
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do something! Get out of here!
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10. Senor,I'm sorry! Didn't you see the sign?
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11. Senor,I'm sorry! I'm sorry! Don't you understand English!
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13. "Mr. Feltz, Mr. Feltz!"
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16. Mary? Mary?
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17. Call Mr. Mendoza.
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18. Somebody got attacked.
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19. No kidding.
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21. High turnover
in this place.
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22. Couple next door
are just here for the "businessman's special."
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hear a thing.
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leave this room.
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Just in here and in the bathroom.
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31. Hard to say.
Over a pint.
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a nosebleed.
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34. The room is registered
to a Warren Talbert. No address.
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a credit card imprint for incidentals.
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and mattresses?
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38. This is nothing.
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39. Last year, we had
an elderly couple from Tokyo.
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40. Found a dead hooker
under their bed.
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41. Yeah, that's why
the precinct holds its Christmas party here.
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credit card number, all right?
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43. Yeah.
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44. Well, I already
checked under the bed.
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45. He checked in
before 10:00 last night. My shift ends at 10:00.
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46. He had a reservation.
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48. Early 20s,
fairly tall, blonde.
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pretty good-looking.
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50. Okay. You'll come down
to the station
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51. and talk
to a sketch artist.
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52. Sure.
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54. but you can't see
the elevators from here.
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56. Credit card company
says Warren Talbert is a 48-year-old architect,
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57. lives on the Upper East Side,
pays off his bill each month.
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58. Well, that Warren Talbert
misses this Warren Talbert by about 30 years.
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59. Card could be stolen. Yeah,
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60. unless Warren had
a friend check him in.
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company called me,
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62. I guess after
they spoke to you.
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my desk.
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64. I called my wife
to look around at home. The card's gone.
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have access to it?
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66. No.
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you used it?
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over a month.
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69. You know, I've had
cards stolen before.
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70. They never sent detectives.
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71. A young man used your card
at the Carrington Hotel.
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72. He might be involved
in a more serious crime.
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73. Where were you
last night, Mr. Talbert?
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74. I was at the Met
humming along to Rigoletto,
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and another couple.
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give you their names.
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at the opera confirmed his story.
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78. Nothing at the morgue.
We had a couple of bleeders
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but they were the wrong blood type.
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80. Preliminaries from
the lab said it's type O.
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in that hotel room.
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82. We're going to
need more help.
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83. For stolen plastic?
We'll mobilize the National Guard.
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84. It's from
the credit card company.
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he last used the card?
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87. About a month ago.
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88. New Editions Bookstore.
$332. Last weekend.
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89. Sorry. I couldn't tell you
if I saw him.
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90. Sunday night
was very busy.
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91. We had a reading
of a cyber-novel by Carlton Van Dusen.
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92. One Hand Typing.
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94. Sure, until you see
Van Dusen. 400 sweaty pounds.
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95. Cleaned out
the pastry platter.
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96. Well, our guy bought
over $300 worth of books.
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98. Still doesn't ring a bell.
You have his credit card number?
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99. Here he is.
Warren Talbert, Sunday, 5:15 p.m.
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100. Thoreau, Walden, soft cover,
$7.95 plus tax. Hegel, $8.98.
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101. There's another
15 books here.
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print that out?
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103. Sure.
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104. Look at this, Nietzsche,
Wittgenstein, Kierkegaard.
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105. Either we're looking
for a philosophy student,
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106. or we got one very
depressed criminal.
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107. I wonder
if Talbert has kids.
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108. We have one daughter.
Christina. She's 17.
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109. She's on
an academic scholarship at Hudson University.
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110. Same neighborhood
as the Carrington.
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111. And you think
my daughter's involved?
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112. Well, our credit card thief
has an atypical spending pattern.
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113. No electronics,
no jewelry, no clothes.
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114. Usually they
max out the card, and not on books.
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115. We're thinking this
thief is a classmate of your daughter's.
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116. I never gave her the card.
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117. Is it possible she might
have borrowed it, and lent it to a friend?
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118. No. Not Christina.
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119. Our daughter's a good girl.
She's very focused on her studies.
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120. She wouldn't be mixed up
in anything criminal.
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121. I don't know
who this is.
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Christina might be able
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any distractions. You mind?
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126. Thanks.
Christina, why don't you sit down here?
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127. Uh, right now, your father's
credit card is our only connection to a crime.
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128. Well, it's Dad's card.
I never use it.
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129. How about you write down
the names of your friends at Hudson University.
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130. I don't want you
bothering my friends.
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131. Are we done here?
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132. Look, we start asking around
campus, we'll get your class schedule,
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133. the clubs you belong to,
everything you do there.
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134. By this time tomorrow,
we'll have a list of all your friends.
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137. So what did she do?
Hack her family to death in their sleep?
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138. Why would you
think that?
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139. People who're
wound that tight,
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141. Exactly how tight
are we talking?
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142. Christina answered
an ad for freelancers.
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143. I needed 500 words
on the student's committee for Tibetan independence.
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144. The next day,
it was on my desk.
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until I read it.
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146. I changed six words.
She got mad. Not at me, at herself.
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147. Well, she didn't
flip out, yet.
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148. Actually, we need to
speak to her friends.
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149. Anyone in particular?
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150. Yeah. Tom Horton.
He's her boyfriend, pre-med.
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151. Oh, that's right,
don't smile back, she might bite you.
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152. Come on, Lennie,
she's just a kid.
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153. Maybe you'd rather
wait in the car.
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154. Can you check Tom Horton's
room again, please?
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155. His roommate's
looking for him in the games room.
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156. Would you ring
Tom Horton for me, please?
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157. Don't hold your breath.
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158. Who are you?
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159. Detectives.
Your turn.
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160. I'm Tom's lawyer.
I instructed him
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until I got here.
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162. So the sketch
vaguely resembles him.
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163. He's young,
he's blond. So what?
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164. Well, if this is
a case of mistaken identity, let's get him in a line up.
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165. What's the charge,
soiling linens? No, thank you.
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166. Why didn't Christina tell us
you were her boyfriend?
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167. Why don't
you ask her?
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he answers a question every now and then?
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Thursday night?
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171. I went to a fraternity party
with Christina.
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174. We left around 9:00.
She went to the library.
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meet up with another girl? Take her to a hotel?
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178. Okay. He's answered
your questions. Interview's over.
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179. Tommy and Christina
were the first ones through the door.
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180. First ones
out the door, too.
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at the Knicks game.
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on the big screen.
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that night.
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I was booting into a trash can.
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going to card you.
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Tommy hooked up with somebody else?
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192. Tommy? No way. No.
He's nuts about Christina.
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nuts about somebody. Doesn't stop them.
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these Wisconsin boys.
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for those milkers.
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197. Haven't you seen her?
She's on the chunky side of Ricki Lake.
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198. We talking
about the same girl? Christina Talbert?
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199. Yeah. Baggy clothes,
looks like she's packing some weight under there.
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200. Yeah, she'd be
real sweet, too,
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201. if she off-loaded
a few pounds.
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the other night.
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if my own daughter was pregnant.
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was not pregnant.
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came in an hour ago.
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amniotic fluid in the mattress.
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what that is?
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come from me.
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in the room,
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from you either?
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boyfriend doing there?
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only going to make things worse for you and Tommy.
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a baby involved,
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what happened, now.
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two kids
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to be pregnant.
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do crazy things.
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if you're scared.
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speak to my client.
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the boyfriend?
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229. Good. Maybe you can
talk some sense into this one.
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talk to her alone.
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she didn't know her own kid was pregnant.
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the look she gave when you mentioned the blood type?
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something like that?
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daughters grow up.
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gets back to her parents.
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237. They find out and what,
no TV for a month?
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the one to tell them.
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240. Well, I live with my parents,
and Tommy has a roommate.
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for privacy.
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in the hotel room?
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into the bathroom,
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started coming out.
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I was pregnant.
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252. What did you do
with the fetus?
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253. I flushed it in the toilet.
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this is now a private, family matter.
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Too much blood, and too little amniotic fluid
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for it to be a first-trimester birth.
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was probably seven or eight months along.
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258. So we're still
being lied to.
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259. I'll call the D.A.
to get an order for a medical exam of the girl.
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260. A viable baby?
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261. That's ridiculous.
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262. There's no medical
standard for this.
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263. So she bled a lot.
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264. That's why
you want a doctor to look up her dress?
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traumatized enough.
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266. Ms. Ross, do you have
anything besides the M.E.'s opinion?
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267. Miss Talbert
consistently lied to the police.
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her mother to know
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with her boyfriend.
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you have actual evidence
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this girl's privacy.
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272. Tommy and I
don't exactly talk.
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heart-to-hearts over a keg?
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274. He talks to Christina.
Christina talks to him. That's about it.
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Thursday night?
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You're sure?
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much wasted, except for him and Christina.
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in the middle of the floor
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Endless Love. It's their song.
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282. We had
a search of every alley and dumpster
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and the university.
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284. If we'd have found a baby,
we would've told you.
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285. She didn't tell
anybody at school that she was pregnant.
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286. The guy who would know,
the boyfriend, won't talk to us.
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you're going to talk
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besides your boyfriend.
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289. A doctor,
a best friend.
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290. We didn't get
any cooperation
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we can get a peek at her address book...
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for a medical exam means no probable cause
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right?
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294. Not necessarily.
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295. Did Talbert file a report
for the stolen credit card?
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296. The card
company did.
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297. She bought books.
That's stolen goods. Grounds for a search warrant.
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298. We'll get two,
his and hers.
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299. My husband called
the credit card company.
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300. He told them it was
a misunderstanding.
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301. They consider it stolen.
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302. This Dr. Banks,
that her gynecologist?
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304. She hasn't seen him
since her annual last August.
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305. Ten months ago.
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306. Rey.
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307. Looks like blood.
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308. Look at this.
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Dr. Glenda Allen, OB/GYN.
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Thoreau and the Germans.
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311. Yes, Christina Talbert's
a patient of mine.
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312. I see a lot of students
from the university.
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first come in?
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If that.
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two or three months pregnant, and she miscarried.
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317. Not without violating
doctor-patient privilege.
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I was her doctor?
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from your prescription pad in her room.
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she'd have these?
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I didn't prescribe her anything.
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your prescription pad on your desk.
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326. Now, about this
alleged miscarriage...
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she is a thief,
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violate her privilege. I'm sorry.
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329. Gynecology,
that's the business I should've gone into.
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those blank prescription forms for a reason.
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331. Right, and I never heard of
pharmacist-patient privilege.
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332. Neither have I.
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oh, here we go. Syntocinon.
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Two weeks ago.
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trouble breastfeeding.
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for pregnant women?
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338. Makes them
not pregnant.
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339. It's contraindicated.
It induces labor.
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found on the dress, it's blood, type O.
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blood type?
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were you expecting?
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a stork.
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345. No baby blood,
but baby feces.
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349. Since the meconium wasn't
mixed with amniotic fluid it had to be excreted
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It was alive.
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351. Thanks.
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352. Well, they made
a reservation, they induced the birth.
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353. We got premeditation.
We got murder.
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354. Yeah, but no body.
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355. I say we get a warrant.
Let the D.A. make it stick.
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356. Let's call Ross.
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357. He rejected the traditional,
American dream of success,
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358. and yet had as much
disdain for mediocrity as he did...
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359. Oh, don't let us interrupt,
we're just auditing.
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360. Stand up.
Stand up!
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361. Christina Talbert,
Thomas Horton,
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for murder.
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363. Don't worry. Somebody else
will take notes for you.
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364. You have the right
to remain silent.
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365. Anything you say
can and will be used...
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366. "Case number 97942.
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367. "People v. Christina Talbert
and Thomas Horton.
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368. "Murder in
the Second Degree."
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369. What are their pleas?
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370. Not guilty.
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371. Not guilty.
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372. The People request bail... Mr. Garnett,
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they're not to hold hands in my courtroom.
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374. Yes,
Your Honor.
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375. Go ahead, Ms. Ross.
What do you want on bail?
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376. 500,000 for each defendant.
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377. They have no priors,
Your Honor. They're college students.
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378. Who killed
their newborn baby.
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379. Where's the body?
Where's the evidence?
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380. That's not my problem.
I'm setting bail at 200K for each.
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381. Miss Talbert is not
to leave her home
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of a parent,
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383. and I strongly urge
the defendants to refrain from contact
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of counsel.
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385. We can't even
see each other?
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386. I don't want you
making any more victims.
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387. But we're in love. Quiet!
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388. You don't seem to
realize why you're here.
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389. Ms. Ross, I'm ordering
a 730 examination,
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390. I'm not convinced
these two are fit to stand trial.
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391. Of course, I understand.
I'm being charged with murdering someone.
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392. Not just someone.
Your child.
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393. I don't have a child.
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it's wrong to kill?
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397. Yes.
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about you getting pregnant?
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399. My mother
won't speak to me.
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I got pregnant.
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get pregnant.
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407. Mom wants girl to be perfect.
Girl wants Mom to be happy.
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what she's afraid of.
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of physical or emotional abuse.
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411. This girl lives or dies
by her mother's approval.
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412. You take that away,
she doesn't have much else.
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413. She can't have much
in the way of human feelings either.
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414. They kill their baby,
then grieve by taking
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around the dance floor.
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416. Big surprise.
She's a narcissistic bitch. Forget about remorse.
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was like a peach pit passing through her system.
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418. Yeah.
All very illuminating.
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419. What're you telling
the judge?
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420. She knows
right from wrong,
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421. appreciates the consequences
of her actions, can assist counsel.
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422. She's cleared
for take-off.
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423. I'll send you my bill.
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424. This case
gives me the creeps.
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425. Yeah.
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426. Without a body in evidence,
you're pushing uphill.
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427. You're not suggesting
we offer the lovebirds a plea?
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428. Lousy kids.
Lousy case.
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429. Talk to their lawyer.
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430. I'm offering
first degree manslaughter, eight-and-a-third-to-25.
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431. How quickly
can I say no?
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432. I'm putting aside the fact
your clients premeditated this killing.
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433. Says you. You wouldn't have
asked us here if your case had a snowball's chance.
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434. You wouldn't be here
if your clients were innocent.
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435. The fetus,
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436. however old it was,
was stillborn. There's no crime.
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437. You're taking the position
a dead baby excreted meconium.
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438. No. I'm taking the position
you didn't find any meconium.
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439. Motion to suppress.
The search was conducted under false pretenses.
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440. Let's go, before
Mr. McCoy charges you with heavy breathing.
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441. The warrant specified, "books acquired with the use
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442. "of a stolen credit card
or other relevant evidence related thereto."
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443. It said books.
They found books. They seized them.
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444. As an afterthought,
Your Honor.
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445. The books were
on a bookshelf in plain sight
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446. the whole time
they were there.
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447. They searched a closet,
a dresser, a desk.
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448. I mean they were
halfway out the door
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449. when they remembered
to take the books.
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450. So they seized
the books last, instead of first.
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451. Is there a special recipe
they were supposed to follow?
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452. The warrant said books.
Instead, they took papers from an appointment book.
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453. The warrant was a pretext.
That's per se abuse.
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454. They went to Miss Talbert's
room looking for evidence of one crime,
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455. they found
evidence of another. That's called luck.
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456. It's called a scam.
The detectives knew
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457. the credit card
wasn't in fact stolen.
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458. They were acting
on a complaint from the credit card company.
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459. Yes, but they'd been told
by the credit card holder it wasn't stolen,
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460. and they already suspected
Miss Talbert in the murder case.
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461. Isn't that right? Yes.
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462. All right.
You're all very clever, but don't tell me
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463. the meconium and
the prescription forms
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464. relate to
a stolen credit card.
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465. Your Honor,
the meconium was found on a dress in the closet.
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466. A closet is a legitimate
search area for a warrant for stolen goods.
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467. You can't fault the police
for finding and seizing blood-stained clothing.
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468. I'll grant you the meconium,
Ms. Ross. It's admissible.
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469. The stolen prescription
sheets are out.
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470. You're rewarding Mr. McCoy
for his people's deception.
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471. That's tough.
We're finished.
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472. Nice save.
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473. Without evidence
that she took a drug to induce labor,
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474. there goes
premeditation.
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475. They did
reserve a room.
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476. The case was weak,
now it's weaker.
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477. Get one of them
to roll on the other.
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478. So which devil do
we make our deal with?
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479. The girl has the motive.
She's the one who didn't want the baby.
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480. Killing it was
probably her idea.
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481. And the boy is
probably the one who actually killed it,
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482. and disposed
of the body.
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483. I flipped a coin
in my head. Came up tails. Talk to the boy.
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484. That brings up
another problem, their lawyer.
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485. He'll probably veto
any settlement that implicates the girl.
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486. Her father posted bail
for both of them.
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487. He's probably paying
Garnett's fees.
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488. Get around the lawyer.
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489. We're prepared
to offer him man two, three-to-six.
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490. He won't even look
out of place when he goes back to college.
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491. You'll knock
a murder charge down to a C felony?
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492. Let me guess, he testifies
against Miss Talbert.
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493. That's right.I thought...
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494. No. Good day, Counselors.
Thank you for coming by.
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495. That's the answer
I expected. Ms. Ross.
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496. Our motion to remove you
as Mr. Horton's attorney of record.
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497. What?
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498. We're conflicting
you out, Counselor.
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499. There is no conflict,
Your Honor.
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500. There's only
one defense position.
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501. That's because there's only
one defense attorney.
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502. My clients only want
one defense attorney. It's their decision to make.
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503. Who's to tell
them any different?
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504. Your Honor, I made
a very fair offer to Mr. Horton
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505. in return for his testimony
against Miss Talbert.
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506. How can he possibly
give objective advice regarding this offer?
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507. So fair it could
only have been made
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508. to get me yanked
as Mr. Horton's counsel.
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509. Was this a genuine offer,
or was it made solely to create a conflict?
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510. At the time,
it was a genuine offer.
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511. I see.
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512. Well, Mr. McCoy,
now you're stuck with it.
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513. Your offer is
still on the table.
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514. Now, I don't see how
having his own counsel
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515. damages Mr. Horton's
interests.
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516. Sorry, Mr. Garnett,
you're out.
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517. It's a good
offer, Tommy.
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518. It gives you a chance
to have a life.
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519. Mr. Garnett said
they don't have much of a case.
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520. That's why he doesn't
represent you anymore.
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521. He was right.
But there's a baby involved, you're its father,
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522. and I'm not
talking out of school when I tell you
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523. a jury is going to be
awfully tempted to reach its own conclusions
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524. and hold you responsible.
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525. Mr. Horton,
if you take a plea,
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526. I believe Miss Talbert
will take one, too.
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527. And I'm a lot more generous
than a trial judge will be.
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528. You don't get it.
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529. If I take this deal,
I don't get a life.
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530. I get a life
without Christina.
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531. Miss Shelton,
you have to do whatever I tell you to, right?
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532. Yes.
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533. We didn't do
anything wrong.
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534. The baby was alive
when we left the room.
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535. At first,
Miss Talbert denied knowing Mr. Horton.
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536. Then they both denied
being at the hotel.
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537. Then Miss Talbert
told us she'd been two months pregnant
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538. and had a miscarriage.
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539. Was any of this true?
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540. No.
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541. Forensics found
traces of meconium on Miss Talbert's dress.
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542. We were told by Forensics
this was conclusive proof the baby was born alive.
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543. Yes, as we just heard
from the Medical Examiner.
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544. What, if any,
efforts did you make to find this baby?
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545. We conducted
an exhaustive search of the area
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546. between the hotel
and Hudson University.
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547. We also questioned
the Carrington Hotel staff
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548. and as many guests
as we could track down.
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549. As a result,
can you tell us what happened
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550. to Miss Talbert
and Mr. Horton's baby?
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551. I can tell you
what didn't happen.
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552. It didn't crawl
out of that room
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553. and it didn't turn up
as a foundling.
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554. It wasn't taken home by anyone
who had access to that room.
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555. Thank you.
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556. Did your investigation
include people
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557. who were registered
at the hotel
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558. under false names
or any of their guests?
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559. If they weren't there
under their own names, no.
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560. Well, the Carrington
is the kind of place, isn't it,
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561. where people
sometimes don't use their real names?
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562. Objection. Sustained.
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563. Could one of the people
you weren't able to locate have taken the baby?
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564. Objection.
Calls for speculation.
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565. You've made your point,
Mr. Garnett.
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566. Move it along.
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567. Detective, is there anyone
in your precinct who's still working on the case?
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568. Until we find a body,
Detective Briscoe and I are still assigned.
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569. Until that time,
what is the baby's official status?
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570. Missing. Presumed dead.
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571. That's far short of dead
beyond reasonable doubt.
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572. Objection.
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573. Withdrawn.
No more questions.
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574. After he was born,
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575. Christina held him
for a little while.
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576. She really loved him.
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577. She couldn't stop worrying
about her mother.
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578. So we
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579. wrapped him
in a blanket,
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580. we left him on the bed,
where the maid would find him.
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581. Then we did
the hardest thing we've ever done.
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582. We walked out of the room.
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583. Then we went back
to the fraternity.
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584. Christina, she felt sick,
and she started to bleed.
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585. She went to the bathroom,
and passed the afterbirth,
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586. and then she wanted me
to take her home.
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587. What happened next?
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588. I didn't sleep
all night.
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589. I called Christina
to make sure that she was okay.
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590. We talked
about the baby.
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591. We decided
that I should go back to the hotel.
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592. But the police
were already there,
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593. and I figured, for sure,
they'd found the baby and it'd be all right.
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594. Just so we understand you,
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595. you felt so upset,
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596. that you went back
to a party at your fraternity house?
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597. Yes. Didn't really know
where else to go.
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598. And you requested a song,
Endless Love, isn't that right?
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599. It was a special
song for us.
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600. And you danced?
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601. We were just
holding each other.
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602. On the dance floor.
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603. Isn't that called dancing?
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604. Yeah. I guess.
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605. We both
felt really bad.
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606. So you punished
yourself for murder by having a little dance.
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607. Objection. JUDGE BARRY: Sustained.
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608. Didn't it occur
to you to call 911,
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609. and tell the police
about your child?
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610. Yes. Christina felt sick,
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611. and I had to get her home.
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612. They don't have
a phone at her house?
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613. I didn't want to
wake up her parents.
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614. How about on the way back
to your dorm?
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615. I don't know.
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616. I was just worried
about Christina.
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617. Can you tell us
anything you did
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618. to suggest that you
had a single thought
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619. about that child
after it was born?
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620. I don't know.
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621. You're pre-med,
she's an honors student,
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622. you're intelligent,
young people.
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623. You must've given it
some thought.
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624. Objection.
Argumentative.
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625. Sustained.
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626. The truth is,
you didn't give a damn about that child, did you?
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627. You had decided
to kill your baby
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628. when you reserved
the hotel room.
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629. Objection!
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630. Enough, Mr. McCoy.
The objection is sustained.
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631. I don't have anything more
for this witness.
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632. The jury liked his
Romeo-of-the-Dairyland routine.
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633. I thought
he got creamed.
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634. Then we're tied
going into closings.
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635. You're a tough
handicapper.
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636. I'm handicapping
the jury.
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637. They keep looking over
at Christina. They like what they see.
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638. Yeah. When you're in love,
the whole world's in love with you.
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639. And she just can sit there,
all sweet and innocent.
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640. Garnett was smart
not to put her on the stand.
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641. There goes
the weekend.
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642. It's Briscoe.
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643. Gas company
worker found it.
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644. White, male baby.
Umbilical cord still attached.
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645. Somebody dug deep
to bury it.
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646. Not really.
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647. This is backfill
dumped on top of the burial site.
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648. We had a gas leak.
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649. Had to undo a couple of
months' worth of work.
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650. He was wrapped in this.
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651. Carrington Hotel.
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652. M.E.'s report,
quick and dirty.
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653. Baby boy. Day old or less.
Born alive and healthy.
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654. Manual strangulation,
larynx was crushed.
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655. Death was instantaneous.
Bastards.
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656. They have a positive
identification?
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657. They can pull some DNA
from the amniotic fluid in the hotel room,
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658. but it's going to take
a while to run a match.
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659. I'll settle for
a blood type match.
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660. Have Detective Briscoe
and the Medical Examiner
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661. ready to testify on Monday.
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662. Notify Judge Barry
we have rebuttal witnesses.
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663. Jack, I think there's
somebody else we might want to talk to first.
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664. I spoke
to the contractor.
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665. He said the burial site
was backfilled
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666. two days after
the baby was killed.
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667. You don't think
those kids just got lucky?
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668. No one's that lucky.
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669. I'm afraid
the baby is dead.
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670. The body was found buried
about 10 blocks from the hotel.
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671. It's a commercial
construction site near the West Side Highway.
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672. You know anything
about that, Mr. Talbert?
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673. Should I?
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674. Your firm did
the structural drillings.
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675. So? There were
47 sub-contractors on that job.
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676. And the contractor says
you were one of only six individuals
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677. who had keys to
the site at that time.
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678. Warren, what did you do?
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679. Sarah... No!
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680. I want to know
what you did.
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681. You were asleep
when they came home.
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682. Christina didn't look well,
and I knew something was wrong
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683. I made them tell me
what happened.
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684. They said they left the baby
in the hotel, alive.
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685. They wanted go back.
I told them it was too dangerous.
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686. I told Tommy to go home.
I sent Christina to bed.
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687. Then I drove to the hotel,
and when I got there,
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688. it was on the bed,
wrapped in a blanket.
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689. It was wheezing.
It was in trouble.
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690. I brought it to my car,
but before I could get it to a hospital,
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691. it was dead.
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692. I took it to
the construction site and I buried it.
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693. Our Medical Examiner
has determined that the baby was strangled.
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694. Someone choked it
with their bare hands.
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695. No! No!
It died of natural causes.
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696. Please, don't insult
our intelligence.
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697. The baby was dead
when you found it, wasn't it?
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698. I better talk
to my lawyer.
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699. Mr. Talbert's agreed to
tell you what he knows.
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700. He has only one condition.
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701. Shoot.
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702. You drop the charges
against his daughter.
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703. In return, he'll testify
against the boy.
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704. As far as we're concerned,
they're equally guilty. Her maybe more so.
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705. Whatever.
You let the girl walk, no charges, no record.
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706. Or he doesn't
tell you squat.
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707. Let's hear
what he has to say first.
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708. Off the record.
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709. I found the baby
in the trash can in the hotel room.
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710. It was wrapped
in a towel.
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711. There was newspaper
on top of it, to hide it.
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712. It was dead.
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713. I can't accept your terms.
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714. I'll subpoena him.
He'll testify with no preconditions.
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715. Absolutely not.
He'll take the Fifth.
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716. I'm conferring
immunity right now.
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717. You're taking the stand
tomorrow morning, Mr. Talbert.
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718. He won't testify.
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719. Are you sure about that,
Mr. Talbert?
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720. I am not sending
my daughter to jail.
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721. What are you
going to do, Mr. McCoy? Cite him for contempt?
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722. He gets 30 days in jail,
and you still get nothing.
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723. For God's sake,
he's just trying to save his daughter.
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724. No deal. Ms. Ross,
get an officer in here
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725. Mr. Talbert,
I'm having you arrested
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726. pending a contempt hearing.
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727. McCoy...
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728. I've had enough of him,
his daughter and her boyfriend.
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729. If I could indict him
as a co-conspirator, I would.
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730. This baby is dead.
I hope they all go to jail for it.
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731. Place this man under arrest
and get him out of my office.
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732. The baby was
wrapped in a towel bearing the initials "CH."
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733. The manager of
the Carrington Hotel
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734. confirmed that it was
in fact one of theirs.
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735. Is this the towel,
Detective?
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736. Yes. That's my signature
on the evidence bag.
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737. People's 56, Your Honor.
No more questions.
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738. Detective,
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739. do you know who
disposed of the body at the construction site?
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740. Not for a fact.
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741. Now that site's kept
locked at night, isn't it?
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742. It's surrounded
by an eight-foot
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743. chain-link fence
topped by barbed wire?
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744. Yes.It wouldn't be easy
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745. to climb over that,
carrying a six-pound weight, would it?
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746. I guess not.
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747. Do you know
who had a key to the gate?
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748. Actually, there
were six people.
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749. Including my
client's father,
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750. isn't that right? Objection.
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751. Why? I have the right to
put forth alternate theories of the crime, Your Honor.
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752. Not without evidence
to support them.
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753. That's what
I'm trying to get at, Your Honor. Evidence.
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754. Overruled.
Answer the question, Detective.
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755. Yes, he had a key,
which his daughter could've borrowed.
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756. Your Honor...
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757. You asked the question,
Mr. Garnett.
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758. Anything else?
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759. No, Your Honor.
No more questions.
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760. Detective Briscoe,
you may step down.
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761. The People have no more
rebuttal witnesses.
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762. The defense does.
We'd like to call Mrs. Sarah Talbert.
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763. She was president
of her history club in high school.
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764. She was vice-president
of the student council,
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765. and she was the editor
of her high school yearbook,
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766. and she received
the Hardiman Prize for geometry.
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767. She has a very bright future
ahead of her.
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768. Her having
an illegitimate child, was that something
Copy !req
769. you and your husband
had in mind?
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770. Objection.
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771. Sustained.
Move along, Mr. Garnett.
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772. Mrs. Talbert,
this past Sunday morning,
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773. did you and your husband
receive a visit
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774. from Mr. McCoy
and Ms. Ross?
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775. Yes.
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776. During that visit,
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777. did your husband
make any admissions concerning the death
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778. and burial of
your daughter's baby?
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779. Objection!
Approach, Your Honor.
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780. It's the People's position
that Mr. Talbert lied to protect his daughter.
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781. That's his position,
not mine
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782. Mr. Talbert's credibility
is an issue for the jury.
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783. Then the person
who should be testifying here is Mr. Talbert.
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784. Well, he isn't, because
Mr. McCoy has him in jail for contempt.
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785. He advised counsel
that if called,
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786. he would invoke his
Fifth Amendment rights.
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787. I immunized him.
He still refused to testify.
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788. He'll stay in jail
until he changes his mind.
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789. Your Honor, I don't
represent Mr. Talbert. I have no control over him.
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790. To penalize my client
and Mr. Horton for Mr. Talbert's actions
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791. amounts to
a reversible error.
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792. Your Honor, ask Mr...
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793. How long have you had
Mr. Talbert locked up?
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794. A little over 36 hours.
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795. He's not going to
change his mind, Mr. McCoy. You're overruled.
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796. The witness will answer.
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797. Mrs. Talbert?
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798. My husband said
that he went to the hotel room, and he...
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799. He found the baby
there alive.
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800. It was having
trouble breathing.
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801. What else?
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802. He said that it died
before he could get to the hospital.
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803. He decided to bury it.
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804. We've heard testimony
that your grandchild was strangled.
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805. My husband did
not kill that baby.
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806. Well, are you saying
that it was your daughter and her boyfriend?
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807. No! Christina's not
a murderer.
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808. She couldn't possibly harm
a defenseless little baby.
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809. Well, then you're saying
that your daughter
Copy !req
810. must've allowed
Mr. Horton to strangle
Copy !req
811. her child.No, never.
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812. Then it must've
been your husband. Objection.
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813. I didn't say that. Sustained.
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814. You can't have it
both ways, Mrs. Talbert!
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815. Your Honor... Your husband or your daughter!
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816. MRS.I don't know.Mr. Garnett.
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817. I don't know.
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818. Mr. Garnett. Enough.
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819. No more questions.
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820. Now you've heard
testimony about Christina Talbert's father.
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821. He found the baby alive
in the hotel room.
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822. It died while in his care.
He buried it in a construction site.
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823. Now, is he lying
to protect his daughter or to protect himself?
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824. Even his own wife isn't sure,
and Mr. Talbert won't tell us
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825. because he'd rather
sit in jail, than explain himself to you.
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826. Now I want you to look
at these two children.
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827. These polite, bright,
naive children.
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828. If you think it's possible,
that in an act of panic and confusion,
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829. they killed that baby,
you must also admit that it's possible
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830. Warren Talbert killed it.
That's called reasonable doubt.
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831. That's why there's only
one right thing to do.
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832. You must acquit.
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833. As you retire to
conduct your deliberations,
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834. some of you may
take with you the image of Mrs. Talbert on the stand,
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835. unable to choose
between her husband and her daughter.
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836. Could you point
at your own daughter,
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837. and say that
she killed her baby?
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838. The fact that Mrs. Talbert
couldn't isn't evidence.
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839. It's emotional
manipulation.
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840. And that this girl
could sit there,
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841. and let it happen
to her own mother,
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842. tells you
what you need to know about her.
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843. I'd like you to take
another image with you.
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844. Picture these
naive children
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845. dancing arm in arm
in a frat house to a love song,
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846. minutes after
they strangled their baby with their bare hands
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847. and left it wrapped
in a blood-soaked towel.
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848. Think about that,
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849. then cast your vote.
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850. Madam Foreperson, has the jury reached a verdict?
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851. Yes, Your Honor,
we have.
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852. Will the defendants
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853. For the defendant
Thomas Horton,
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854. on the count of murder
in the second degree, how do you find?
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855. We find the defendant
Thomas Horton not guilty.
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856. For the defendant
Christina Talbert,
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857. on the count of murder
in the second degree, how do you find?
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858. We find the defendant
Christina Talbert not guilty.
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859. Members of the jury,
I thank you for your service.
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860. You are now dismissed.
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861. Baby's dead,
and no one's responsible.
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862. No one was responsible
when it was alive either.
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863. Warren Talbert's
still in jail.
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864. We could get him
for obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence.
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865. We got beat.
Just send him home to his family.
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