1. In the criminal justice system,
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2. the people are represented
by two separate yet equally important groups,
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3. the police
who investigate crime
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4. and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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5. These are their stories.
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6. I'm afraid you're going to
have to come out of there, ma'am. Store's closed.
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7. I'm sorry,
I'm not dressed yet.
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8. I'm sorry, ma'am.
Rules are rules.
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9. Are you
going to punish me?
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10. Depends on
whether you cooperate.
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11. Try this one.
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12. Jose, this is
completely see-through.
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13. So?
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14. Come on,
I just finished my rounds.
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15. Floors five,
six and seven are all ours.
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16. What was that?
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17. Wait here.
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18. No, here. On second thought,
you better go. Pass key will get you out.
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19. Bobby, it's Jose.
I heard something on eight. Sounded like shots.
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20. I'll send someone up.
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21. Hello, Bobby,
call an ambulance.
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22. Oh, damn,
it's Mr. Spiegel.
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23. Jose, what's
going on up there? Who's that?
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24. Jose? Irma, baby,
I told you to go.
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25. I got scared.
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26. Oh, my God!
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27. Go, baby. Go!
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28. I was in the seventh-floor
dressing room when I heard the shots.
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29. That part
of your usual rounds?
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30. No, no. Not really.
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31. Well, what were
you doing there?
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32. If I tell you,
it's gonna cost me my job.
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33. If you don't tell me,
I'm gonna think you have something to hide.
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34. I was in there
with my girlfriend.
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35. It wasn't like that.
She was modeling stuff. Underwear.
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36. What time did she leave?
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37. Right after
I found Mr. Spiegel.
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38. But you gotta
leave her out of it. She still lives at home.
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39. Her old man finds out,
he's gonna kill her.
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40. Well, you better come up
with a story for pops,
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41. because we're
gonna have to talk to her.
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42. Bobby Fox, head of security.
Before that, 20 years at the 19.
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43. I was in the security office
when Jose called in the shots.
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44. The victim's
an executive here?
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45. Yeah, Richard Spiegel,
chief financial officer.
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46. Kate Bergreen's husband.Wow.
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47. Yeah, the ones
who own the place. Hmm.
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48. Well,
somebody got out without setting off security.
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49. Well, the executive suite
has its own elevator and exit to the street.
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50. No whistles,
no bells.
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51. What about the
rest of the store?
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52. It's wired all around.
But they hand out the pass keys like they're gumballs.
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53. I warned them,
but unless you make six figures,
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54. the Bergreens
don't want to have much to do with you.
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55. Lucky us.
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56. Jose told us you got to
the store at about 8:00?
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57. I don't know
why I let him talk me into it.
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58. Did you notice
anything suspicious on your way out?
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59. I wasn't exactly looking.
I mean, I was so freaked.
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60. That dead guy's
eyes were open, staring up.
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61. How about when you arrived?
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62. Can you
think of anything that might help us?
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63. There was this guy,
this tall, skinny guy
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64. with long brown hair
standing outside, screaming.
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65. Where?
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66. By the executive entrance.
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67. But at first,
I just figured he was some crazy guy.
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68. Something changed your mind?
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69. I saw he was
on a cell phone,
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70. ragging on somebody.
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71. Did you get close enough
to see his face?
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72. I was in a hurry.
Jose was waiting.
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73. Your murder weapon's
a.22 caliber pistol.
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74. Could be a stealth shooter
for the mob.
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75. Any signs of burglary?
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76. Well, they're still
trying to figure out if anything's missing.
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77. Kind of stuff
that store carries,
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78. two shopping bags worth
would be quite a haul.
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79. Best shoe department
in the city. Highest prices, too.
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80. You know,
it also could be a current or former employee
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81. running around
with a pass key.
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82. Well, have somebody
run their names through BCI.
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83. What about the wife?
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84. Kate Bergreen-Spiegel
has two secretaries.
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85. One for work,
and another one for her appointments at her apartment.
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86. You ever hear of that?
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87. In Danielle Steele novels.
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88. Yeah, well, her home secretary
has managed to squeeze us in for a 10 o'clock.
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89. I spoke to Richard about 7:00.
He was waiting in his office for a call.
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90. Thank you. He said
he didn't know when he'd be home.
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91. And that's the last time
you spoke to him?
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92. Yeah.
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93. You were here all night?
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94. With Dad,
and Chloe, my daughter.
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95. How do you tell
a 3-year-old her daddy's never coming home?
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96. MR.Do we
have to do this now?
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97. Well, it's best
to get all this while it's still fresh in your mind.
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98. What were your husband's
responsibilities at the store?
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99. I brought in Richard
six months ago to supervise our expansion.
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100. More stores? Yes. Chicago,
Dallas and Beverly Hills.
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101. All Laura's idea.
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102. My other daughter.
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103. When my doctor
made me retire,
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104. I made
Laura and Kate co-presidents.
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105. What did
Spiegel do before he came to work for you?
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106. Richard was CFO
of Cromwell Industries.
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107. He had a brilliant
financial mind.
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108. Did your husband
have any enemies that you know of?
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109. Business associates?
Employees he might've let go?
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110. I'm sure he fired people.
He did all of that.
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111. Did he ever mention
anybody who was particularly upset?
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112. We never talked
about business much.
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113. You are co-president
of the company.
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114. I'm president of clothes.
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115. Everything you see
when you walk through the store.
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116. Richard handled
everything else.
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117. With my sister.
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118. Believe me,
I wish I could take the day off to grieve.
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119. It's bad enough that your
investigation delayed our opening for two hours.
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120. The show must go on, huh?
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121. If the store is open,
someone has to be here running it.
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122. We understand
that Mr. Spiegel let several employees go recently.
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123. A few.
But they were all given very generous severances.
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124. Do you think
a former employee is responsible?
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125. A man gets murdered
in the workplace, it's a logical place to start.
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126. Any non-employees
he might've offended?
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127. Probably
several hundred a day. This is New York.
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128. I mean business
associates, suppliers. That type of non-employee.
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129. The only people
we seem to offend is our competition.
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130. Anybody in particular?
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131. D&S. Davenport and Styles.
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132. They seem to think
we're engaged in some kind of holy war.
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133. Over what?
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134. Our designers mostly.
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135. The latest battleground
was Paul Medici.
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136. They claimed they
had him exclusively. We disagreed.
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137. Richard was
dealing with the lawyers.
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138. They were suing you?
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139. For several million dollars.
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140. Richard thought that
they were just posturing.
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141. When was the last time
you saw Richard?
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142. Around 7:00,
as I was leaving the building. He was waiting for Mr. Medici.
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143. They'd been
trading calls all day.
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144. He needed me to come in and sign some legal papers.
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145. Papers regarding
the D&S case?
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146. Yeah, that's right.
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147. Richard said they'd settled
their differences and everyone would walk away happy.
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148. Yourself included? Absolutely.
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149. I'd think a little guy
like you gets put in the middle of a big lawsuit,
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150. it couldn't be
too good for business.
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151. There's no such thing
as bad publicity, Detective.
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152. Actually,
it was a very silly dispute.
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153. First, D&S said I couldn't
sell to anyone else, then they said I could.
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154. No, no, no, no, no!
Is no one listening?
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155. This is three inches too long.
Like this! Go, go. Go make it happen!
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156. Spring shows
begin next week.
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157. This time of year,
everyone gets on my nerves.
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158. Everyone except Spiegel?
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159. I just signed
the papers and left.
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160. And what time was that?8:00.
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161. See,
we got a report of a man matching your description
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162. outside Bergreen's
right about that time. A very angry man.
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163. If that was me,
I was on the phone with Valerie, my best cutter.
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164. You'd think she'd pick
a better time to elope.
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165. You can call her
in Vancouver.
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166. And where'd you go
after the meeting with Spiegel?
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167. I was at the
Foundation benefit for kids at the Armory.
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168. I donated some dresses.
I even paid for a patron's ticket. $600.
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169. One lousy litigation.
You believe the mess these lawyers can make?
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170. Anyone been able
to translate?
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171. Well, D&S claimed Bergreen's
enticed Medici into violating the terms of his contract.
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172. They said he was making
private label dresses for Bergreen's
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173. while he was
exclusive to them.
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174. Hey, Lennie,
didn't you work with this guy?
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175. John Podbielski?
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176. Pot Belly? Yeah.
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177. John and I once worked vice
in the 13. He signed an affidavit declaring he'd seen
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178. the private label dresses
being made at Medici's sweatshop.
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179. Take him
for a walk in the park.
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180. I'd be looking at Medici.
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181. He was
gonna take a hit on the settlement?
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182. Parties to the suit
were proposing that he eat the dresses
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183. he manufactured
for Bergreen.
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184. Ouch. Yeah.
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185. It was a lot more
combustible than that.
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186. Spiegel's the guy
who proposed stiffing him.
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187. He doesn't
want to pay his bills. So what else is new?
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188. From where I sit,
Spiegel wanted Medici going down in flames.
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189. Why?
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190. I tell you that,
I'm violating my contract.
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191. These guys
still owe me money.
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192. You don't want to
help us clear a homicide?
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193. Hey, Pot Belly, come on.
We collared $5 whores together.
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194. This is gonna cost me
a very good client.
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195. Hey, John,
how often do you need a set of plates run?
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196. Medici's been throwing
a little humpski into Spiegel's wife.
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197. Ooh.
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198. Did Spiegel know?I didn't tell him.
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199. I don't
even think Medici knew we were on to him.
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200. How long? Twice a week at least
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201. for the two months
I've been assigned.
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202. Any documentation?
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203. Like animals they go at it.
I got pictures.
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204. Okay, we're alone.
We're in this delightful room.
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205. Now do I get to know
why you had to talk to me again?
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206. How long you been involved
with Kate Spiegel?
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207. She's Bergreen's
fashion director.
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208. She saw my designs
a couple of years ago, and I...
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209. Who took these?
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210. Put yourself
in the here and now, Paul.
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211. Whoever took them,
there they are. That's what we want to talk to you about.
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212. I'm sure
you can understand why I would be reluctant
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213. to broadcast my
involvement with Kate.
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214. Your reluctance to
broadcast is what we call hindering prosecution.
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215. It's a felony. We were having an affair.
It happens.
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216. Even among
police detectives, I would think.
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217. You
were the last one to see Spiegel alive,
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218. he was screwing you
with this lawsuit, and you're doing his wife.
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219. I had nothing to do
with Spiegel's murder, I swear.
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220. Yeah, but if Spiegel
was out of the way,
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221. it would make things
a whole lot easier for the two of you, wouldn't it?
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222. You think
I wanted to marry her? To move in together? No.
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223. I liked things
just the way they were.
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224. You tell Kate that?
Was that her attitude?
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225. I don't know.
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226. She never talked
about her marriage, and I didn't ask.
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227. Yeah,
and the fact that she had more money than God
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228. and ran the most important
store in town, this was just a physical thing, right?
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229. Exactly.
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230. Yeah,
with all those models hanging around...
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231. I find all women
beautiful, Detective.
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232. Yeah, well, Paul,
there's one other problem, see.
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233. That AIDS benefit
you were attending the night of the murder?
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234. Nobody saw you there.
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235. Now,
we're gonna start all over.
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236. The affair,
what happened last night. Don't waste our time again.
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237. I was with Kate
at my showroom.
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238. The Medici Benefit.
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239. What time did Kate leave?
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240. About 9:30.
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241. Spiegel didn't get
killed until 10:00.
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242. After Kate left,
I called Petra. A model.
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243. She came by at 10:00,
and stayed
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244. all night. You can call her.
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245. A killer's walking around,
my husband's killer,
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246. and you're wasting
your time investigating my personal life.
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247. You haven't answered
the question, Mrs. Spiegel.
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248. I was not
with Paul Medici that night or any other.
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249. Well,
Paul says you were with him at the start of the evening,
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250. and he was with
another acquaintance later.
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251. The later part
we got verified.
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252. If Paul says
he was with me, he's a liar.
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253. Was that your daughter
we passed on the way in?
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254. The little girl
standing with your father?
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255. Why?
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256. I wouldn't want her
to walk in while I was showing you these.
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257. Well, I bet the boys
down at the precinct got a big charge out of these.
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258. Did you pass them around?
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259. Were you with
Paul Medici the night your husband was killed?
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260. Is my total humiliation
your objective?
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261. Because if it is,
you have certainly succeeded.
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262. Yes, I was with him.
We had sex that very night.
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263. Would you like to know
what positions?
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264. When did you
leave his studio?
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265. I don't know.
About 9:00.
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266. That's not what you
told us before.
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267. Because I wanted to spare
my family embarrassment.
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268. Is that something
you can possibly understand?
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269. Where'd you go
after you left?
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270. Home. I was
home from 9:30 on.
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271. Can anyone corroborate that?
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272. I went
to the kitchen for some tea.
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273. I went to my father's room.
We watched the news together.
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274. My God, I feel like
I'm a suspect here.
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275. Was your husband
aware of your affair with Medici?
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276. Yes, he was.
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277. And how did he react?
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278. Well, I hate to
disappoint you, Detective,
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279. but there was no big fight.
There was no divorce.
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280. There was no custody battle.
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281. A model family.
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282. Richard and I
had an open marriage.
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283. I was free to partner
with anyone I wished
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284. as long as I took
proper precautions, which I always did.
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285. Then why was your husband
playing tough with Medici on this contract dispute?
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286. Are the two of you dense?
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287. I know nothing about
business things. I never cared.
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288. But Richard was not
out to get anybody.
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289. Well, call me old-fashioned,
Mrs. Spiegel, but I find that hard to believe.
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290. We are not like you,
Detective.
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291. So you don't buy
the open marriage scenario?
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292. Not unless Spiegel
tells me himself.
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293. LUDS from Spiegel's
office phone came back.
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294. Six calls the week before
the murder to an attorney, David Solomon.
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295. You know,
I think his datebook listed an appointment with that guy
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296. on his last day.
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297. It could be
business related.
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298. A month's salary
this guy's a divorce lawyer.
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299. You're on.
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300. I don't do divorces.
I'm a criminal attorney.
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301. What do you make a month?
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302. You were representing
Richard Spiegel on a criminal charge?
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303. Well, that's
privileged information.
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304. Did it have anything to
do with the D&S lawsuit against Bergreen's?
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305. No, see, that's a civil suit.
I am a criminal attorney.
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306. And I'm
a police detective.
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307. What kind of criminal law
do you practice?
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308. Corporate.
Financial fraud, primarily.
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309. What, was Spiegel
in some kind of financial hot water?
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310. I can't comment on that.
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311. Who can?
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312. Bergreen's comptroller,
Charles Herman.
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313. We asked Herman to come in,
he showed up with his lawyer.
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314. Well, we give him a walk
on any of the creative accounting moves he pulled,
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315. he'll dish the dirt.
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316. You think some
kind of financial scam got Spiegel killed?
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317. Hey, money makes
the world go around.
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318. I mean, it's take-a-number
time on who could've wanted this guy gone.
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319. Herman have
any kind of record?
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320. He's clean.
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321. Let's hear
what he has to say.
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322. I told Laura it was wrong
and I didn't want to be a part of it.
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323. I mean,
every deduction on my income taxes is legitimate.
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324. We'll take
your confession later.
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325. Tell us what was
going on at the company.
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326. The company was broke.
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327. Mainly because
Laura had so much money tied up in the expansion.
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328. When things started
going really bad,
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329. she insisted I use the
employees' 401k contributions to pay our bills.
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330. Which is illegal.
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331. She threatened to fire me.
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332. I have two kids.
I can't...
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333. Did Spiegel know?
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334. Not at first.
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335. When he found out,
he confronted Laura in my office.
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336. He said
she was breaking the law and he wouldn't stand for it.
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337. She said
she was the boss and things would be done her way.
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338. Isn't her father
still the CEO?
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339. He didn't know anything.
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340. Laura
wouldn't let me send him the monthly reports
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341. while he was recovering
from his surgery. She said bad news might kill him.
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342. What do you think?
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343. I think Laura
was more concerned
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344. about Mr. Bergreen
finding out she was doing a bad job.
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345. Did you
ever hear Laura threaten Spiegel?
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346. Not specifically.
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347. Laura said
Kate brought in Spiegel to make her look bad,
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348. and Spiegel thought
Laura was incompetent.
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349. Yes,
our cash reserves are a little low right now,
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350. but when the December
revenues are posted...
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351. You have to understand
that Charles Herman is a nervous little man
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352. who doesn't understand
the first thing about the retail clothing business.
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353. You said you
left the store at 7:00?
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354. That's right.
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355. And what did you do
after you left?
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356. I stopped for dinner.
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358. An Indian restaurant
on Sixth Street
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First and Second. And, no, I don't remember the name.
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360. Did you use a credit card?
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361. No, I paid in cash.
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362. I'm afraid I have to tell you
that I'm beginning to feel like I'm a suspect.
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363. Where did you go
after dinner?
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364. I visited my father.
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365. What time?
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366. My God, the only thing
that's missing is a spotlight shining in my face.
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367. I think I got there
a little before 10:00, I stayed about an hour,
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368. and then I went home.
Is that good enough?
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369. Did you see your sister?
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370. No.
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371. You were in
your sister's apartment and you never saw her?
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372. My sister has an 18-room
townhouse. It's not that difficult to miss each other.
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373. I don't get
how both sisters could be visiting their father at 10:00
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374. and not see each other.
I don't care how big the place is.
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375. Which one do you like?
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376. Maybe Laura?
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377. Laura gets rid of Spiegel
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378. 'cause he's about to expose
her financial shenanigans.
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379. Which would put her in jail
and Spiegel in her office.
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380. Curtis.
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381. Or Kate killed him because
a divorce would make her lose her kid and half her money.
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382. A woman in a custody battle.
Not a pretty picture.
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383. Okay, good.
Send it over to the lab for prints. Thanks.
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384. A couple of uniforms
in the 35 took a.22 Ruger off an armed robbery perp.
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385. Ballistics says
it's our murder weapon.
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386. Perp's being transferred
to our precinct now.
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387. We have
some more questions we need to ask you, Clarence.
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388. Look, man, I already...
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389. I told those other
officers that I robbed the grocery store.
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390. I did it.
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391. You know,
that's very refreshing,
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responsibility like that.
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393. But we're interested
in where you got the gun you used.
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Could I say something first?
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395. I just wanted to tell you
that if smack were legal, see,
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396. I wouldn't have to be
robbing nobody, 'cause I would buy it in a store,
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397. and it would probably
only be like a dollar a hit.
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398. That's a very nice vision
of the future, Clarence.
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399. Now, will you tell us
where you got the gun?
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400. I found it in a trash can.
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401. Where?
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402. Are you gonna help me out?
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403. If you give me some answers,
I'll talk to the D.A., sure.
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404. All right.
The trash can
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405. was right outside
this big store over on 50th.
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406. Bergreen's?
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407. Yeah.
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408. Clarence here found
the gun in a trash can just outside the store.
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409. I'll raise you.
Laura Bergreen's prints are on the barrel.
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410. Nice call, Rey.
Her prints are in the system?
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411. Yeah, she was
busted for smoking pot when she was 18.
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412. The gun's permitted
to a Jeffrey Arbaugh.
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413. He gives Seymour Bergreen's
East Hampton estate as his address.
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414. Mmm-mmm. What is it
you say, Lennie? "Thank God they're stupid"?
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415. Yeah,
even the rich ones.
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416. Jeffery Arbaugh?
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417. It's Arbaugh.
Rhymes with "saw."
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418. Well, Mr. Rhymes-with-saw,
your gun was used to kill Richard Spiegel,
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419. and you happen to live
in his father-in-law's house.
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420. You want to
explain all that?
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421. Richard's dead?
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422. You didn't know?
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423. This is terrible.
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424. Nobody told me.
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425. I don't read papers
or watch TV.
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426. I prefer face-to-face
communication.
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427. Oh, thanks.
I'll remember that.
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428. So,
where were you two nights ago?
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429. I was teaching
my transcendental meditation class.
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430. I know, you think TM
has been supplanted by more with-it forms of meditation,
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431. but I have to tell you... Hey!
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432. How did your gun
end up killing Mr. Spiegel?
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433. I don't consider it mine.
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434. It's registered to you.
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435. Kate felt unsafe
much of the time.
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436. She thought a gun,
its being more than its presence,
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437. would make her
feel more secure.
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438. I bought it for her
as a favor.
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439. So it was Kate's gun.
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440. I suppose.
In a physical sense.
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441. What exactly
is your relationship to Kate?
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442. I'm her philosophical
and spiritual exploration guide.
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443. And I feed the dogs.
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444. Did she ever
seek your guidance on her marriage?
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445. I don't think I should...
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446. You should.
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447. She was very troubled.
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448. Why?
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449. Richard had threatened
to divorce her and seek custody of their child.
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450. Mr. Bergreen,
your son-in-law was shot with your daughter's gun.
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451. And your other daughter's
fingerprints are on it.
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452. Somehow,
this investigation keeps leading us back here.
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453. Notwithstanding,
my daughters had nothing to do with Richard's death.
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454. You told us before
Kate was with you the night of the murder?
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455. Correct.
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456. Around 9:30?
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457. That's right.
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458. What about Laura?
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459. Yes,
she was here, too.
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460. And what time was that?
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461. Around the same time.
She stopped by.
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462. Mr. Bergreen,
were Kate and Laura with you together?
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463. No.
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464. If either one of
your daughters asked you to provide an alibi...
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465. I answered your questions.
Now get out.
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466. Two shaky alibis,
two legitimate motives, Kate's gun, Laura's prints.
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467. Maybe they did it together.
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468. I sure as hell don't buy
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469. those now-you-see-her,
now-you-don't visits to the old man.
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470. We got no proof
of a conspiracy.
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471. Well,
anyone you pick up now won't be arraigned until tomorrow.
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472. We'll stick them
in jail overnight, see who starts talking.
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473. Laura Bergreen,
you're under arrest for the murder of Richard Spiegel.
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474. What are you doing?
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475. Would you
please turn around?
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476. Oh, you're
going to regret this.
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477. You have the right
to remain silent...
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478. Is this some
kind of sick joke? Come on.
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479. Because I am not laughing,
and my lawyer won't be either.
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480. I don't know who
authorized this, but...
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481. Your sister
is two rooms down.
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482. I understand she didn't
care for the powdered eggs at Central Booking.
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483. Between fending off
advances and waiting for toilet privileges,
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484. I didn't have time to ask.
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485. I wouldn't think
you'd want to go back.
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486. Has it sunk in yet,
Miss Bergreen? The situation you're in?
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487. You mean being the target
of envious and vindictive district attorneys?
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488. I mean the prospect
of spending the rest of your life in prison.
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489. How'd you sleep last night?
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490. You know something
I've learned as a prosecutor?
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491. Family members
turn on each other as often as anybody else.
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492. Whatever blood oath
they may have taken,
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493. as soon as
things fall apart, one of them talks.
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494. And whoever talks first
is much better off.
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495. Are you offering immunity?
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496. Her gun
is the murder weapon.
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497. It was in a drawer
in my office.
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498. Eight thousand people
knew where it was.
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499. You have no case,
Miss Ross.
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500. And unless you're
dropping the charges or offering immunity,
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501. we have no reason
to give you anything.
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502. Your client's fingerprints
are on the murder weapon.
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503. She showed me her gun
when she bought it.
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504. She wanted me to see
how light it was.
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505. You were so desperate
to stop Spiegel's plan to inform your father,
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506. you ordered
your comptroller...
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507. Says Charles Herman,
who has immunity.
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508. Your New-Age friend
will testify that Mr. Spiegel
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509. was going to divorce you
and take your child.
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510. If that statement were
admissible in court, we'd contest it.
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511. What makes
you think it isn't?
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512. My client's
conversations with Mr. Arbaugh are privileged.
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513. On what grounds?
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514. Priest-penitent.
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515. It's amazing.
He's like a shrink and a rabbi rolled into one.
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516. After graduation
from Yale Divinity,
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517. I was ordained
by the Episcopal Church.
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518. Then I ministered two small
congregations in Virginia.
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519. But after a time,
you left the church.
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520. Church work
became too confining.
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521. Too many demands from
parishioners, not enough time for serious studies.
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522. So you never gave up
your religious studies.
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523. Oh, no.
Nor did I give up my counseling work.
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524. I became a
personal spiritual advisor.
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525. So your work
with Kate Bergreen was in your role as clergyman.
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526. Oh, yes.
She referred to our meetings as spiritual sessions.
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527. During these sessions,
did Kate Bergreen ever talk about her marriage?
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528. She talked about her problems
with Richard all the time.
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529. We were working
to overcome them when he died.
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530. Thank you very much.
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531. Mr. Arbaugh, in your
capacity as spiritual advisor to Mrs. Spiegel,
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532. did you receive a salary?
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533. Yes.
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534. What was that salary?
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535. I was paid $400 a week.
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536. And for that $400,
did you provide any services other than spiritual advice?
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537. I helped out
around the house.
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538. How?
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539. I walked the dogs
and watered the plants.
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540. Some of the people
we spoke to out there said that you also cut the grass,
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541. wash the cars, do
some house painting, clean the pool.
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542. Goes on.
Is this an accurate list?
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543. Sloth is bad for the soul.
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544. What percentage
of the time you're working is spent performing spiritual
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545. as opposed to secular duties?
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546. I'm always a priest.
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547. Who spends
most of his time mowing the lawn.
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548. You can hardly
be called a professional member of the clergy.
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549. The declaration
of belief I took
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550. committed me
to the 39 Articles of the Faith of my church.
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551. Show me one article that says
a priest can't walk the dog.
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552. A court-anointed clergyman.
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553. Wonder how Cardinal O'Connor
feels about being equated with Jeffrey Arbaugh.
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554. Not as bad as I feel.
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555. His Eminence
doesn't have to try a murder case without a motive.
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556. Losing Kate's motive
is the least of our problems.
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557. And I don't see
any proof of conspiracy.
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558. They both had reasons
to want Spiegel dead.
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559. They're both tied
to the murder weapon.
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560. Where is the proof
that they agreed to kill him?
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561. Unfortunately,
they didn't sign a contract.
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562. We can't talk
to their shrinks,
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563. their friends
won't talk to us. Who's left?
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564. Miss Laura
said I should call her if you people came by.
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565. She was very unhappy
with the mess you made here last time.
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566. I came to speak with you.
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567. Me? I have my Green Card.
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568. I'm not from the INS,
Mrs. Manquez, I'm from the District Attorney's Office.
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569. It's in your
best interest to talk to me.
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570. Okay. Come in.
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571. In the days before
Mr. Spiegel was murdered,
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572. did Kate Bergreen
come here to visit her sister?
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573. I don't remember.
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574. What about Miss Laura?
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575. Did she visit with Kate
or talk to her on the phone?
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576. I don't remember.
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577. Look, Mrs. Manquez,
I appreciate your loyalty to your employer,
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578. but withholding information
is a crime. You don't look like a criminal to me.
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579. I heard something.
It might mean something.
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580. What did you hear?
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581. Well, the night
before Mr. Spiegel died, Mrs. Kate did call here,
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582. and she asked to speak with
Miss Laura right away. So she was with her masseur,
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583. and I brought her
the portable phone,
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584. and I left the room.
I didn't hear nothing.
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585. Do you know
where I can find this masseur?
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586. Very nice people.
Big tippers.
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587. What kind of mood
was Laura in?
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588. Who knows about
moods of rich people?
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589. She looked dark, unhappy.
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590. With money like that,
I would be happy all the time.
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591. Was there anything that
was making her particularly unhappy that night?
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592. She didn't talk to me.
But hands feel stress. More after Kate called.
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593. Did you hear
what she said to Kate?
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594. Only when
they start to argue.
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595. Then I hear,
"We have to stop him."
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596. I don't want to hear
personal conversation. I say, "Do you want me to leave?"
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597. Now Miss Bergreen
angry at me, says, "You are not going anywhere."
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598. What did Laura say next?
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599. She turned away on phone.
Still argue.
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600. I hear,
"If you don't do it, Kate, then I will."
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601. Then she says, "Okay,"
and come back on table.
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602. Thank you.
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603. Uh...
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604. How about
I give you a full-body massage, no charge?
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605. How many ways can I say it?
There was no conspiracy.
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606. The conversation
between Kate and Laura
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607. is proof of an agreement
to kill Richard Spiegel.
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608. It's one side
of a phone call taken totally out of context.
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609. If anything,
it implicates Laura.
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610. It's an agreement.
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611. If you people had even the
smallest clue, you'd realize that my sister and I
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612. haven't agreed on anything
since the day I was born.
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613. Kate,
let me handle this.
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614. Does anyone care
what we really talked about that night?
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615. Or is mounting
my head on the wall all you're interested in?
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616. Tell us.
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617. Not until we know
what you're doing for us.
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618. Fair enough.
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619. Your client pleads guilty
to conspiracy, we tell the judge she cooperated...
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620. I'm talking about full
immunity. Nothing short.
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621. That must have been
some conversation.
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622. It was.
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623. You have it.
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624. Richard knew
Laura's expansion plans were destroying the company.
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625. He told her she should
step down. She could still be called President,
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626. she just wouldn't be
running the company anymore.
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627. Laura said
she'd do whatever was necessary to stop him.
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628. I called to settle her down,
but all she could talk about was,
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629. "He has to be stopped.
If you don't do it, I will."
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630. Your client has been
indicted for murder.
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631. Why haven't
we heard this already?
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632. I just told my lawyer,
after my stay in jail.
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633. I don't know why
I didn't mention it earlier.
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634. I didn't think she meant...
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635. I guess I didn't
want to believe it.
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636. You want me to
grant immunity to Kate Bergreen,
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637. whether or not
she killed her husband.
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638. Her version of the phone
conversation is consistent
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639. with the theory of
Laura as sole killer, but I don't buy it.
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640. Yesterday,
the same conversation made Kate a co-conspirator.
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641. That's right,
and I think we can convict them both.
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642. And I think with their father
as an alibi, there's a good chance they'll both walk.
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643. We make this deal with Kate,
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644. at least one of the sisters
goes away for the murder.
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645. Are we more concerned
with our conviction rate or with seeking justice?
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646. Laura was
the driving force in this,
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647. and, I think, the shooter.
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648. If you really believe that,
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649. make your deal.
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650. The night before he died,
Laura threatened my husband.
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651. Do you
know what prompted your sister's threat?
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652. My sister knew that
Richard was about to let our father know
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653. about the damage
she had done to Bergreen's.
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654. Why was Laura's fear
of exposure to your father so frightening to her?
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655. Objection.
Calls for speculation.
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656. No one knows Laura Bergreen
better than her own sister.
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657. Objection sustained.
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658. I'll
re-phrase the question.
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659. Did Laura ever tell you
how she felt about being exposed to your father?
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660. Yes. The night
before the murder.
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661. What did she say?
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662. She said she'd spent the last
20 years working at the store for one reason,
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663. to prove to my father
that she could take it over.
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664. And she asked for
the millionth time how I could have married Richard.
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665. How did you respond to that?
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666. I told her
how I live my life was none of her business.
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667. And what about
Richard's plan to expose her?
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668. What did you say about that?
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669. Well, I don't
remember exactly.
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670. It was something like,
"Dad'll understand."
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671. I was trying to calm her down,
but she just kept going.
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672. She said if Richard
talked to him, Dad wouldn't give her another chance.
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673. She was talking like
he was going to disown her.
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674. Thank you.
Nothing further.
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675. Weren't you also
charged by Mr. McCoy with murdering your husband?
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676. Answer my question,
Mrs. Spiegel.
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677. You were charged
with murder and conspiracy to commit murder, correct?
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678. Those charges
have been dismissed.
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679. They were only dismissed
after you volunteered to testify against your sister.
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680. I volunteered
to tell the truth.
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681. The entire truth would have to
include all the reasons you had to kill your husband.
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682. I loved my husband.
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683. Your affair with Paul Medici,
the prospect of a messy divorce...
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684. Objection.
Assumes facts not in the record.
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685. Objection overruled.
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686. In fact, your affair
embroiled your family in a multi-million dollar lawsuit.
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687. You had more to hide
from your father than Laura.
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688. None of that changes
what my sister did.
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689. Laura got to Kate's apartment
about 9:45 p.m.
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690. She stayed for
a little over an hour.
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691. How can you be so certain
about the time Laura arrived?
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692. I take my heart medication
four times a day.
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693. That night, Laura brought me
my pills a little before the 10:00 news started.
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694. Thank you, Mr. Bergreen.
Nothing further.
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695. Your other daughter, Kate,
arrived home about 9:30 p.m.?
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696. Yes.
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697. And shortly thereafter,
Kate also came to your room.
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698. Yes.
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699. Maybe you can help me
with something that doesn't make sense, Mr. Bergreen.
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700. Kate said she watched
the news with you.
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701. Laura said she watched
the news with you, too.
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702. But they didn't
see each other.
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703. How can that be?
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704. Did you watch the news twice?
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705. Yes.
10:00 on nine, 11:00 on four.
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706. Isn't it true that
Laura couldn't have seen Kate that night
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707. because Laura wasn't
at the apartment at 10:00 p.m.
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708. when Richard Spiegel
was murdered?
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709. You have it backwards,
Mr. McCoy.
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710. It was Kate
who wasn't at the apartment. She was at the store. She...
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711. Sidebar, Your Honor.
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712. Objection to the sidebar,
Your Honor.
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713. I'd like to hear
what this witness has to say. The unabridged version.
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714. So would I.
Continue, Mr. Bergreen.
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715. She needed me
to cover for her
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716. because she wasn't
at the apartment till after 11:00 that night.
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717. What did she
need you to cover for?
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718. She told me the next day.
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719. She killed Richard.
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720. So your father is lying?
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721. Of course he's lying.
To protect Laura.
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722. Neat trick.
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723. Your father says
you confessed, you deny it, the jury has reasonable doubt.
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724. Your sister walks,
and you're immune from prosecution.
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725. Dad said he was talking
to Laura's lawyer, Greer.
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726. Greer told him
I had nothing to worry about because of the immunity.
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727. Laura's lawyer told him
to offer that testimony?
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728. I don't know.
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729. I know my father would do
anything he had to to keep Laura out of jail.
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730. And you weren't in on it?
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731. Oh, yeah, I was in on it.
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732. Kate has been
completely forthright, and I resent your implying...
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733. Do you think I would volunteer
to be branded a murderer? A husband-killer?
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734. And then what?
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735. I stroll through
the rest of my life like nothing happened?
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736. It's nonsense,
and you know it.
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737. Seymour Bergreen
perjured himself. Go after him.
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738. No. No.
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739. The idea that Kate confessed
to her father is a joke.
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740. Hmm.
Some joke.
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741. We go after
Seymour for perjury.
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742. You think that'll get him
to recant his testimony?
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743. The idea sure bothered Kate.
Maybe she'll convince him to come clean.
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744. Maybe she won't.
It's no time to speculate.
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745. Closing arguments
start tomorrow.
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746. We can ask
for a continuance.
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747. 'Cause your case
is out the window.
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748. If Laura's lawyer
told Seymour to lie, he suborned perjury.
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749. That what Kate said?
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750. It sounded like it to me.
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751. Maybe Judge Larkin will
grant us a continuance to investigate the charge.
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752. No sense being timid.
I'm gonna ask for a mistrial.
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753. Suborning perjury?
That's preposterous.
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754. Prior to his testimony,
Mr. Bergreen asked me about Kate's legal status.
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755. I simply assured him
that she was immune from further prosecution.
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756. The implication is obvious.
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757. He assured Mr. Bergreen
he could lie on the stand at no risk to Kate.
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758. The possibility of
an ethical violation casts a taint
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759. on the integrity
of this trial, Your Honor.
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760. There's the
ethical violation!
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761. Mr. Greer,
restrain yourself.
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762. What is it you want here,
Mr. McCoy?
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763. I see no alternative
to your declaring a mistrial.
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764. On the basis of a single
ambiguous statement attributed to Mr. Greer?
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765. We only started
our investigation.
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766. He's desperate,
Your Honor. He's stalling.
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767. I'm sorry, Mr. Greer,
but under these circumstances,
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768. I have no choice
but to take the mistrial application under advisement.
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769. I have
a better idea, Your Honor.
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770. If Mr. McCoy needs some time
to conduct his investigation,
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771. I'd agree to
a short continuance.
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772. How long would you need?
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773. Two weeks, minimum.
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774. You get five days.
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775. Mr. Bergreen,
sometimes we do things
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776. without fully considering
all the ramifications.
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777. Have you thought
about the effects of your testimony?
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778. And I don't just mean
getting Laura off.
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779. You'll always love Kate,
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780. but other people are not
as tolerant as you are of a confessed murderer.
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781. You don't need to
concern yourself with me or my family.
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782. What you said in court
will ruin Kate's life.
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783. She'll be a pariah.
It's an ignominious existence,
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784. and you
will be responsible.
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785. Unless
you recant your testimony.
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786. Which would mean
Laura goes to jail. What would you do?
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787. Did you come up
with this scheme by yourself?
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788. You gave her immunity.
It's not my fault.
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789. Either you lied
on the stand, Mr. Bergreen, or you lied to the police.
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790. There's about five felonies
we can charge you with.
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791. Do you really
want to go to jail?
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792. Tell us the truth.
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793. The truth is,
I love my daughters. Both of them.
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794. We'll see how much
they love you.
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795. You're going to be arrested.
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796. Why are you doing this?
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797. We have no choice.
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798. What he said about me
is wrong, but he was just trying to protect Laura.
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799. All of it is wrong.
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800. A trial will kill him.
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801. I'm sorry.
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802. Three days,
no word from Laura's camp.
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803. Where are we
on the subornation charge?
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804. Greer answered
all our subpoenas.
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805. We haven't found anything
in the record to support it.
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806. Yeah, so we go back to trial
in two days with nothing.
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807. See if Laura'll
take a plea.
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808. I think
we're wasting our time.
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809. You're not being
paid by the hour.
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810. Find out. And if she says no,
we got real troubles, don't we?
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811. I guess your
smear campaign failed.
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812. My office turned over
a truckload of records,
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813. and you still couldn't
come up with anything.
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814. We'd like to discuss
a plea for your client.
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815. How do you sleep
at night, McCoy?
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816. Why don't you
represent your client now
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817. and chew me out later?
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818. We're not dealing.
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819. My sister said she did it.
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820. That's a matter of opinion.
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821. We're prepared to
drop the charges against your father
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822. in exchange for your...
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823. I said no deals.
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824. Is this what you wanted?
Your father going to jail?
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825. He will not go to jail.
He's bluffing.
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826. Laura isn't even interested
in hearing the offer.
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827. Game-playing's over.
Finish the trial.
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828. What about Seymour's
perjury charge?
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829. It's a felony.
If we drop the charge,
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830. we look like
even bigger jackasses.
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831. Offer him a plea
and a $10,000 fine. He can afford it.
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832. Now, go face the music.
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833. Ladies
and gentlemen of the jury, have you reached a verdict?
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834. We have, Your Honor.
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835. Would the defendant
please rise?
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836. On the sole count
of the indictment, murder in the second degree,
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837. how does the jury find?
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838. We find the defendant,
Laura Bergreen, not guilty.
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839. The defendant is released. The jury is excused.
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840. This court is adjourned.
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841. We screwed up.
We're not supposed to screw up.
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842. You act like it's
the first case you ever lost.
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843. It isn't.
Doesn't mean I have to like it.
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844. A murder goes unpunished,
it's bad for business.
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845. Laura Bergreen's
not the first rich person to get away with murder,
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846. and she won't be the last.
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