1. In the criminal justice system
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separate yet equally important groups,
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3. the police who investigate crime
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4. and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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5. These are their stories.
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6. My stomach hurts.
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7. You've already stayed
home twice this week.
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8. I'm not kidding.
It really hurts.
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9. Dr. Waldstein's got a new
medicine for stomachaches.
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10. Only if it comes in bubble gum.
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11. It comes in one of his extra-long
needles. You won't taste a thing.
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12. Guess what, Mom? I think
I feel a little bit better now.
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13. Hello?
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14. Joyce?
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15. We're gonna be late again.
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16. Hello?
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17. Oh, my God! Oh,
my God. Oh, my God.
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18. Mommy!
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19. We're gonna get you help,
Jenna. You're gonna be okay.
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20. Baby, hold on, hold on.
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21. The deceased woman's Joyce
Weber, 43. Her son Billy is 10.
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22. EMS took the daughter
over to St. Vincent's.
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23. It's weird. No forced entry. All
the windows locked from the inside.
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24. You got a make on a weapon?
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25. .22 shell casings on the floor.
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26. The coroner figures it
happened around midnight.
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27. Body positions say
they were fast asleep.
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28. Yeah, well, if you got to go...
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29. Foyer closet was open.
This was on the floor.
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30. It looks like a jewelry box.
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31. Motive, that's a
good thing. Dust it.
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32. Lennie, this is Laura Cochran,
Joyce Weber's sister. She called it in.
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33. I'm sorry.
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34. What brought you here
this morning, Mrs. Cochran?
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35. I was gonna walk the boys to
school. Joyce and I alternated days.
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36. I can't believe my
son had to see this.
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37. Well, there are specialists that
can help. I can give you a name.
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38. Did anyone tell Ron yet?
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39. Was Mr. Weber usually here
when you arrived in the mornings?
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40. Unless he's out of town on
business. Joyce didn't mention.
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41. I should be with my son.
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42. Okay. Here, take this.
We'll be in touch. Thanks.
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43. Joyce and Billy gone...
This is gonna kill Ron.
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44. Or vice versa.
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45. My dad, did you find him?
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46. We called his office this
morning. He didn't show up.
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47. Oh, my God. They
killed him, too.
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48. They?
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49. Whoever did this.
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50. Did you see your
father last night?
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51. I was out. I think
he was working late.
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52. He had a presentation
or something.
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53. Jenna, tell me, do you remember
anything about last night?
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54. I was sleeping.
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55. The door to the house, do
you remember if it was locked?
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56. I came home from The
Red Onion around 11:00.
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57. I'm sure I locked it.
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58. Why would anyone do this to us?
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59. We found a jewelry box on the
floor in the hall closet. It was empty.
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60. My mother's jewelry.
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61. Please, find my dad.
You have to find him.
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62. Fifteen years of marriage, and the
only time my husband ever disappeared
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63. was after a major blow-out.
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64. You think it was Mr. Weber?
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65. Why not? The wife takes a couple
of.22s, the first stop is usually hubby.
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66. But not sonny. If Weber wanted
the jewels, there are easier ways.
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67. You never heard of somebody staging a
break-in? I mean, the guy's still missing.
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68. There's no sign of forced entry.
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69. The family didn't even wake up.
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70. It sure looks like
whoever did this had a key.
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71. What about the wife's
sister? She let herself in.
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72. Yeah, she also had an apartment
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73. full of her husband's business
associates until 2:00 a.m.
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74. The girl was at some
preppie bar on First Avenue.
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75. Maybe somebody
followed her home.
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76. Check it out.
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77. This is unbelievable. She
was just with us last night.
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78. Is she gonna make it?
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79. It looks good.
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80. Thank God.
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81. Were any of you at
the bar when she left?
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82. Yeah, we were all there. All of
us. And then Becky and Rod...
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83. Excuse me.
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84. When Jenna split, was she alone?
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85. What's so funny?
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86. Well, Chester
offered to escort her.
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87. Jenna's mom would have a hernia
if she saw Chester at the front door.
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88. That's in bad taste, isn't it?
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89. So what? You weren't
exactly her mom's favorite?
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90. Chester's too mature
for her little girl.
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91. Look, I don't understand.
How can we help?
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92. Well, we think she
might've been followed.
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93. My God. It could
have been any of us.
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94. Excuse me. Lennie?
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95. Thanks.
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96. Mr. Weber just got home an hour
ago. Rossman broke the news to him.
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97. Says it looks like he didn't
get too much sleep last night.
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98. Next month it would
have been 18 years.
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99. I can't believe this.
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100. Billy, he was only 10.
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101. Please, I've got
to go see Jenna.
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102. We understand, Mr. Weber.
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103. We just need to ask
you a few questions first.
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104. We found an empty jewelry
box in your closet floor.
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105. That's right. It was Joyce's.
Two necklaces and a bracelet.
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106. How long you been
drinking, Mr. Weber?
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107. Excuse me?
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108. Your eyes, the hands... Many's
the morning I've had a head like that.
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109. Look, it's not like I'm
a drunk or anything.
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110. I just got carried
away last night.
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111. All night?
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112. Oh, God.
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113. Look. All I know is I
woke up in some diner
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114. on Third Avenue
near the Parthenon.
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115. And before that?
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116. I started at
Cabrini's after work.
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117. And then some bar on
Second Avenue, near 76th.
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118. And then...
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119. I had to pick last night.
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120. You own a gun, Mr. Weber?
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121. Of course not.
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122. You think I had
something to do with this?
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123. Why don't you finish
your coffee? You need it.
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124. If he loved his kids that much,
he'd have been home to tuck them in.
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125. Yeah. You tell me you never
drank too much and blacked out.
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126. Hey, I missed the whole
Carter administration,
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127. but I was always
home for breakfast.
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128. Check out his story.
Start at Cabrini's.
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129. Weber? Sure, those ad
guys keep us in business.
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130. So Weber was in here last night?
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131. It's amazing how
much that guy can drink.
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132. How late was he here?
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133. Well, the whole crew
showed up about 7:00.
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134. By 11:30, it was just
Weber and Sheila Gordon.
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135. And did he and
Sheila leave together?
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136. Weber? Are you
kidding? He's married.
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137. Like that would be a first?
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138. No, I mean Norman
Rockwell married.
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139. If I had to hear one more story about
his kid's medal in the spelling bee,
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140. it'd make me start drinking.
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141. This Sheila Gordon,
she works with Weber?
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142. Across the street.
Goydos, Kamm Advertising.
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143. You don't think me and Ronnie...
Come on. Joyce would kill him.
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144. Not anymore.
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145. That's a bad joke, Detective.
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146. Ronnie and I were
co-workers, period.
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147. We started together.
We made V.P. together.
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148. We had a couple of drinks together,
and we went to our separate apartments.
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149. Only Ronnie never made it home.
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150. What?
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151. He was out drinking all night
and passed out in some diner.
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152. I had no idea.
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153. You didn't know
he had a problem.
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154. Everybody has problems.
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155. Maybe in the last six months or so he's
been drinking a little more than usual.
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156. He say why?
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157. It's the nature of the beast.
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158. The agency will send
you to Betty Ford twice.
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159. After that, you're on your own.
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160. So he never talked about
any troubles at home?
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161. Nothing unusual. They
hated Jenna's boyfriend.
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162. Joyce charged too much at Saks.
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163. She worked too late when she
should have been home with Billy.
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164. We didn't know she worked.
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165. Nine-to-fiver at the
State Liquor Authority.
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166. Look, Detective, I know Ron
Weber. I know he didn't kill his family.
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167. Just like you knew
he didn't drink?
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168. I think you can leave now.
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169. He's a drunk, and she
handles licenses to sell booze.
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170. It's a marriage made in heaven.
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171. One thing about
the Liquor Authority,
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172. you can always trust them
to be straight shooters.
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173. That's a bad joke, Detective.
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174. "Don't mess with Joyce Weber."
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175. I was going to get that printed
on a T-shirt for her birthday.
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176. She was a tough lady, huh?
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177. This business, you have to be.
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178. You wouldn't believe
some of the offers we get.
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179. You talking about bribes?
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180. A liquor license can make
or break an establishment.
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181. Since everybody knows
on the scruples scale
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182. we're one step below
the Mexican police...
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183. Look, if anybody took a bribe around
here and Joyce caught wind of it,
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184. believe me, they'd
be better off in jail.
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185. What about unhappy customers?
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186. I'm sure you saw the armed
guards at the front door.
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187. Yeah. So lately, any
louder-than-usual complaints?
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188. As a matter of fact...
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189. Metro Bar and Grill.
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190. Mr. Yentakov had trouble
taking no for an answer.
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191. Sergei Yentakov? I
remember him from OCCB.
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192. Guy pulled more
strings than Jim Henson.
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193. That's why I love this country.
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194. Someone dies and the
police actually gives a damn.
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195. Actually, Mr. Yentakov...
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196. Sergei. It was my
grandfather's name.
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197. It's a lovely name.
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198. Anyway, Sergei, we understand
that you were on a first name basis
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199. with Joyce Weber.
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200. OCCB's been tailing
Yentakov for three years.
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201. Last week they saw him
having lunch with Joyce Weber.
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202. A little arm twisting?
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203. Weber said that he offered her 10,000
to change her mind on the license.
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204. The D.A. wanted more.
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205. She was gonna wear a wire
to her next meet next Friday.
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206. Very unfortunate what
befells Mrs. Weber.
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207. Yeah, I'm sure you sent flowers, especially
after she ruined your investment.
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208. No hard feelings. Mrs.
Weber did what she had to do.
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209. Yeah. Except in this country,
her decision's supposed to be final.
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210. You're not supposed to offer
her money to change her mind.
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211. No, no, no, no, Detective,
the wrong way around.
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212. Mrs. Weber came to me. For
$10,000, license would be mine.
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213. Like I told my wife,
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214. "The old country, the new
country are not so different after all."
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215. So, anyone who believes
him, raise your right hand.
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216. If I had my stack
of Bibles with me,
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217. Yentakov would be
swearing from here to Kiev.
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218. I think it's obvious
what went down.
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219. Somehow he found out that Joyce
Weber was the point man in OCCB's sting.
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220. That didn't exactly
make his day.
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221. Well, he didn't have to kill her.
All he had to do was not talk to her.
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222. Maybe things are
different in the old country.
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223. Point is, we need to
find that leak at OCCB.
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224. They're on top of it.
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225. What are you talking
about? This is our case.
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226. And that's why you're gonna
check out Dr. Zhivago's story.
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227. Hey, excuse me, but the only
witness to their conversation is dead.
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228. Think about it. If your new hobby
is shaking down license applicants,
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229. why start with a mobster?
Talk to her other rejections.
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230. You don't consider
this a waste of time?
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231. I consider it
covering all bases.
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232. - I - patented the formula.
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233. Theme interiors, pretty waitresses,
short skirts and big smiles.
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234. Called it Long Legs.
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235. Politically
incorrect. I love it.
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236. Yeah, so do people in Atlanta,
Durham, Nashville and Miami.
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237. So what happened? Didn't
go over so well in New York?
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238. We didn't have a chance.
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239. Eight months ago, our application
for a liquor license was rejected.
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240. No liquor, no Long Legs.
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241. Thank you, Joyce Weber.
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242. Well, actually,
she did me a favor.
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243. You don't like making money?
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244. No, I like keeping it.
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245. My major investor in the New York
franchise served time for fraud in Philly.
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246. I would never have known if
she hadn't been so thorough.
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247. Did Mrs. Weber ever suggest
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248. that there might have been a way
to avoid your problems altogether?
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249. I'm not following.
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250. Maybe she could've been persuaded
to overlook your investor's past.
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251. Say for a substantial
cash payment.
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252. You're joking, right? This woman,
she squeaked when she walked.
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253. You go to The
Culinary Institute,
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254. you borrow from your idiot MBA
cousin for the down payment,
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255. you plan the perfect menu...
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256. French without the heavy sauces.
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257. And then two months ago,
Joyce Weber throws a...
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258. What do you call those things?
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259. A wrecking ball.
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260. That's right. Let me tell you
about this Weber broad, bitch.
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261. You want to elaborate?
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262. She tells us, "You
girls are a lock."
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263. Then she has trouble
with your investors?
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264. She had trouble with
our bank account.
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265. We're inadequately capitalized.
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266. With a liquor license, we
would have had more capital
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267. than we had pate de campagne.
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268. We get 10 grand from
idiot cousin number two,
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269. but that wasn't good enough. It's
about time you guys looked into her.
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270. Well, she was
just doing her job.
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271. Yeah?
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272. She called the house once,
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273. said something about
"overlooking our deficiencies."
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274. Did you ask her what she meant?
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275. I didn't have to ask.
She wanted more money.
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276. Too bad we ran
out of idiot cousins.
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277. Who would've thought of
putting peanut butter on potatoes?
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278. Yeah. When's your physical?
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279. What? Peanut butter, potatoes, it's
two of the three major food groups.
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280. Does it make sense to you,
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281. eight months ago she's squeaky clean,
six months later, she's soliciting bribes?
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282. And he's drinking
himself into oblivion.
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283. Sounds like money
problems to me.
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284. He's a V.P. at a
major ad agency.
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285. It's got to come along
with major bucks.
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286. Well, maybe he was spending
it in all the wrong places.
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287. Bookie?
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288. Bookie, drugs, women.
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289. Who knows what skeletons
he's got in his closet.
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290. But it'll have to wait. Now this
time I'm going for the sausage.
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291. They had two incomes.
Everything should have been fine.
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292. Two kids in private
school, it takes its toll.
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293. What's this got to
do with anything?
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294. We're just trying to get a
complete picture, Jenna.
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295. Maybe your dad owed
money to somebody.
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296. You mean like a
loan shark? Get real.
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297. My sister liked to live well.
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298. Beach house on Fire Island,
the Ivy Club, the brownstone.
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299. I warned her they should
put some away for a rainy day.
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300. Sounds like they spent
everything they made.
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301. If they'd put it in a fund,
they could've retired.
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302. My dad tried to sell
the beach house.
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303. Jenna.
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304. No. I mean, you're making it
sound like he's stupid or something.
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305. He didn't want it
in the first place.
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306. They were stuck with
a major mortgage?
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307. They borrowed against
the equity on the brownstone
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308. to make the monthly payments.
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309. Debt. The great motivator.
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310. It's not like we were
starving or anything.
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311. Your mom didn't want you to know,
Jenna. Your dad was having trouble at work.
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312. Now why did you go and say that?
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313. Don't you see
what they're doing?
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315. Whatever my mom told
you, he had a good job.
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316. He didn't need money.
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317. I've known Weber since
we were freshman in college.
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318. Buddies, and now he works
for you. How'd he handle that?
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319. Better than I would.
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320. We hear there was
some trouble here at work.
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321. The ad game, sometimes
it comes down so hard
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322. you've got to carry one
of those big golf umbrellas.
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323. And Weber left
his in his locker?
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324. He lost two clients. He
knows how the game's played.
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325. So, what, you
saying you fired him?
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326. Two clients. This isn't
Alpha Chi anymore.
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327. I gave him six months and
tried to keep it hush-hush.
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328. And you weren't successful?
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329. I didn't realize that
he didn't tell Joyce.
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330. At a dinner party, I mentioned
to her how sorry I was.
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331. How was I to know he didn't tell her?
I mean, he only had two weeks left.
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332. How'd she handle it?
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333. You ever been married?
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334. Point taken.
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335. The poor bastard. Not only
is it coming down at work,
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336. it's hailing bowling
balls at home.
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337. He was talking about
pulling a Willy Loman.
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338. You know, he's worth
more dead than alive.
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339. You mean insurance?
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340. A half mill would
have solved everything.
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341. Stupid question, did he have
insurance on his wife, too?
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342. Any guy with kids and a working
wife has insurance. It's prudent.
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343. I've been there, Mr. Weber. Everything
just gangs up on you all at once.
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344. It wasn't as bad as it looks.
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345. Money's tight, the bills
pile up, you're out of a job.
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346. All of a sudden, the
world's a very cold place.
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347. No. I had three
interviews set up.
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348. It's self-fulfilling. You're
desperate. They smell it.
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349. It's over before you sit down.
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350. I was gonna get something.
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351. Your wife didn't think so.
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352. That's not true.
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353. Why would she start asking
for bribes? She lost faith in you.
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354. Twenty years you take care
of her, you hit a little dry patch
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355. and she can't let you
forget what a loser you are.
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356. And the way she went through it,
you'd need two jobs just to break even.
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357. I loved her.
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358. I loved my family.
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359. But you let them down, Ron.
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360. You turned into a drunk.
You stopped coming home.
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361. If my wife thought I was such a
deadbeat, I'd do the same thing.
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362. What you needed
was a major payday.
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363. A pile of insurance money
to cure everything, am I right?
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364. That's sick.
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365. I didn't kill anybody.
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366. Well, that's not 100%
accurate, Mr. Weber.
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367. See, you don't really
remember what you did.
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368. Why don't you think it
over for a few minutes, huh?
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369. Anybody check his alibi?
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370. Our guys went up and
down Second Avenue.
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371. One bartender remembers
him coming in around 2:00 a.m.
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372. The shooting was around
midnight. He left Cabrini's at 11:30.
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373. That gives him plenty of time.
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374. And there's no murder weapon?
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375. Probably swimming in the Hudson.
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376. Hey, the guy's
right on the edge.
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377. An arrest might
just push him over.
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378. Thanks.
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379. Motive just got better.
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380. Weber filed a claim on his wife's insurance
two days after she died. 500 thou.
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381. If it was about the insurance money,
he wouldn't have gone after the kids.
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382. He was desperate. Who knows
what was going through his head?
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383. It's all circumstantial. I need
something a little more tangible.
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384. Circumstantial's good
enough for a search.
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385. Let him go. I'll get a warrant.
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386. Mr. Weber's expected from lunch
shortly. You could've waited for him.
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387. Hey, the sooner we're finished,
the sooner we get to eat.
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388. Hey, Lennie, you
think he wears these?
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389. Whoa.
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390. What do you want now?
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391. Now? Well, now you're under arrest for
the murders of William and Joyce Weber
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392. and the attempted
murder of Jenna Weber.
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393. You have the right to remain silent.
Anything you do say can and will be...
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394. It had to happen
sooner or later.
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395. How have you been, Margot?
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396. Look at my client. You tell me.
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397. Well, you're certainly
off to a good start.
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398. Half mill? It's as good
as remand without bail.
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399. Well, he can't be that
broke. He afforded you.
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400. He plays golf with one of the
lawyers in my firm. I'm a favor.
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401. Jack, this is Margot Bell.
She'll be representing Weber.
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402. Always the lucky one.
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403. At least you finally admit it.
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404. Am I missing something here?
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405. Margot replaced
me on the Review.
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406. It wasn't luck, Claire.
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407. You were busy running
around with what's-his-name
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408. instead of cramming
for Property.
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409. What can I say?
What's-his-name was a better time
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410. than the rule against
perpetuities. Who isn't?
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411. So, Margot, I assume this is more
than a remember-the-good-old days.
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412. I'm sorry. How often do I get
to mix business with pleasure?
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413. Weber swears he didn't do it.
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414. And you believe him?
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415. I was thinking more like
you give a little, I give a little.
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416. The best I can do is drop the
request for the death penalty.
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417. That's exactly what
I'm talking about.
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418. We work together,
we change the world.
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419. I'll talk to him.
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420. What do a sperm cell and
a lawyer have in common?
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421. They both have a one-in-a-million
chance of becoming a human being.
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422. There's a law.
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423. You pass the bar, you got
to stop telling lawyer jokes.
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424. Why? Who better knows the truth?
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425. Yeah. We're contentious, arrogant,
too smart for our own goods,
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426. anal, expensive, theoretical,
knee deep in minutiae.
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427. Not exactly the life we
thought we were getting into.
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428. You ever think about quitting?
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429. Yeah, right. We'll
open a flower shop.
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430. Why not? You don't
have to lie to suspects,
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431. and I don't have to
represent guys like Weber.
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432. I'm allergic, and neither one of us
knows how to read a balance sheet.
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433. We'll cut a deal on Weber, and
then we'll both take a vacation.
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434. Would that it were so,
Mr. Weber's not interested.
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435. I want the SOB convicted.
Who's representing him?
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436. Margot Bell. I went
to law school with her.
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437. She any good?
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438. She's smart enough to
know her client's guilty.
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439. Smart enough to parade everyone
in his life through the courtroom
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440. to say what a devoted
family man he is.
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441. He lost his job. He turned into a
drunk. He had insurance on his wife.
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442. That explains the
wife, not the kids.
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443. Jury doesn't understand
it, they don't believe it.
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444. How about John List?
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445. He killed his family. The jury didn't
have any trouble convicting him.
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446. No. They had a busload of
experts explaining why he did it.
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447. We'll get our own busload.
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448. If Weber doesn't claim insanity,
our shrinks can't even talk to him.
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449. Yes, but if she explains Weber to
us, we can explain him to the jury.
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450. If, if, if...
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451. They're called
family annihilators.
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452. They often have an over-developed
sense of family values.
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453. The problem is, rather than
serving as a protective force,
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454. it becomes destructive.
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455. "I love you so much, I have
to kill you." It's hard to believe.
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456. Not when you see imminent ruin.
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457. Like losing your job?
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458. He's that depressed, why
wouldn't he just kill himself?
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459. He probably thought about it.
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460. But family annihilators typically
exaggerate the importance
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461. of their role in the family. "Without
me, the family would be nothing."
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462. Mr. Weber seems
to fit the profile.
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463. I want you to tell
that to the jury.
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464. Jack, I haven't examined him.
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465. I can only speak in hypotheticals.
Weber will give specifics.
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466. There's no way Margot
will put him on the stand.
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467. I am on very shaky ground here.
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468. At best, it's speculation.
I can't say for sure.
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469. You don't have to.
Just say it's possible.
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470. This is absurd. Only the defense
can put the defendant's sanity at issue.
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471. We're not saying he's insane.
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472. We're saying he fits the
profile of a family annihilator.
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473. I don't see the
problem here, Miss Bell.
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474. You can introduce expert
testimony as rebuttal evidence.
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475. With all due respect, we're
not talking about O.J. here.
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476. My client can
hardly afford my bills.
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477. That's not an issue.
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478. Guess again, Mr. McCoy.
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479. The Sixth Amendment provides...
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480. Right to counsel,
which he's got.
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481. No, he's entitled
to effective counsel.
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482. How can I possibly be effective
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483. when my ability to introduce evidence is
limited by my client's financial straits?
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484. That shouldn't affect the
State's ability to make its case.
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485. This isn't a
bullfight, Mr. McCoy.
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486. The picadors don't get
to stab the defendant
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487. before the matador
enters the ring.
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488. All I'm asking for is an even
playing field, Your Honor.
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489. Is there any precedent?
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490. The Supreme Court
in Ake v. Oklahoma
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491. held that a State is required
to provide the Defense
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492. with a psychiatric expert...
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493. When he's pleading insanity.
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494. That decision was never
expanded to all expert testimony.
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495. It wasn't specifically
limited, either.
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496. Your Honor...
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497. We all want a fair
trial, Mr. McCoy.
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498. You've got your shrink,
Miss Bell, at State's expense.
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499. I don't know why I didn't
wake up. I just didn't.
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500. But you're sure you locked the
door before you went to sleep?
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501. I usually do. I don't know.
Maybe I forgot that night.
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502. That isn't what you
told the police, is it?
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503. My brother's dead, and my mother's
dead, and my father is on trial.
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504. Please answer the question.
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505. No, that's not what I told them.
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506. To your knowledge, who
had keys to your brownstone?
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507. Me, my dad, my
mother and my aunt.
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508. Did your dad ever
hit your mother?
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509. He would never.
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510. Did they fight?
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511. No more than any
of my friends' parents.
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512. I can't believe that...
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513. What, Jenna?
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514. I can't believe they're
doing this to him.
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515. Park Dietz, the country's
leading forensic psychiatrist,
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516. identified a category of murderers
he called "family annihilators."
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517. Their killings are usually
preceded by a major economic loss.
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518. Like losing a job?
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519. Exactly.
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520. They feel their middle-class
lifestyle slipping away.
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521. Often they drink heavily and
become suicidal themselves.
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522. Are there similarities among
these family annihilators?
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523. The prototype is a
white male in his 40s,
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524. excessively devoted to his
family, especially his children.
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525. He's a churchgoing
man, but not overly devout.
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526. Acquaintances describe
him as sweet, nice, gentle.
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527. He's definitely not abusive.
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528. Would you say
Mr. Weber fit that profile?
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529. From the information
available to me, yes.
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530. A nice guy who loves his
kids and goes to church.
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531. I wonder how many family
annihilators there are in this courtroom.
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532. These qualities
are all exaggerated.
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533. An annihilator
has a difficult time
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534. distinguishing between
himself and his loved ones.
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535. Did you examine the
defendant, Doctor?
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536. No.
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537. So, you're willing
to send him to prison
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538. because of some article you
read in Psychology Today?
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539. Objection.
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540. Withdrawn. No more questions.
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541. Basically, you could squeeze
90% of the men in this country
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542. into Dr. Olivet's paradigm.
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543. So, Doctor, you're saying that this
so-called family annihilator doesn't exist?
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544. Not at all.
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545. There are between 15 and
50 murders like this every year.
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546. I'm just saying that Dr. Olivet's
methodology was incorrect.
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547. She was given a
suspect's history
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548. and then she paralleled
it with the prototype.
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549. And what is the
correct methodology?
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550. Look at the circumstances
of the crime first:
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551. the method, time
and location of killing.
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552. A family annihilator leaves
his mark all over a crime scene.
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553. If there is evidence that the
murder was committed by a husband,
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554. then, and only then, should
you see if he fits the prototype.
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555. And did the crime
scene here suggest
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556. that a family annihilator had
committed these murders?
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557. On the contrary,
he left a survivor.
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558. The whole point is to
kill your entire family.
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559. Is it possible Mr. Weber didn't
know his daughter was still alive?
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560. I suppose.
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561. Is there anything else about
the crime scene to suggest
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562. that these murders weren't
committed by Mr. Weber?
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563. I doubt very much that an
individual that emotionally devastated
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564. would have the wherewithal
to stage a robbery.
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565. But it's been known to happen.
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566. On rare occasions, yes.
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567. It's very simple, Mr. McCoy.
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568. As a professor of mine
used to tell me repeatedly,
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569. "All poodles are dogs, but
not all dogs are poodles."
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570. Nothing like the
battle of the experts.
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571. Yeah. What about the girl?
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572. She hurt. She says maybe
she didn't lock the door after all.
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573. Which opens the door for
eight million other suspects.
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574. Well, the most important
one takes the stand tomorrow.
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575. Who, Weber? I don't believe it.
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576. Why not? It's a tie game.
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577. Now he can cry
himself into an acquittal.
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578. Was the night of the murders the
first time you stayed out all night?
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579. No. Joyce would tell
the kids that I worked late
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580. and left for the office early.
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581. Please tell us where you were
on the night of the murders.
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582. I was drinking at
Cabrini's until maybe 11:00,
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583. and then I don't remember.
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584. And was this the first time
you had an alcoholic blackout?
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585. No.
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586. But you're quite sure you
didn't go home that night?
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587. Yes.
And you're quite sure
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588. you didn't murder
your wife and son?
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589. Yes. I loved them more than I...
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590. I never even held a gun.
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591. You were so drunk you can't
remember where you were,
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592. yet you're sure you
never went home.
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593. I never wanted my
children to see me like that.
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594. If they had, you'd
have to kill them?
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595. Objection.
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596. Sustained.
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597. The jewelry that was supposed
to be in a box in your closet
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598. was actually in your
office, isn't that true?
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599. Yes.
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600. Did you ever tell
that to the police?
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601. I was gonna sell it. We needed
the money. I was embarrassed.
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602. So you staged a robbery? No.
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603. You must've been pretty
desperate, Mr. Weber.
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604. The breadwinner in the family
suddenly coming home with no money.
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605. Must have been humiliating. But
now you don't have that problem.
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606. Your wife and your son will never
know that you couldn't cut it in business.
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607. They'll never know that you
were going to sell your house.
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608. Actually, you did them a favor.
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609. Isn't that right?
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610. No. I didn't kill them.
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611. I would never kill...
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612. Damn, Jack, even
I felt sorry for him.
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613. But now you see him
as a murderer, right?
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614. Yeah, I suppose.
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615. And I suppose
the jury will, too.
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616. Jack. I owe you.
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617. Well, maybe not.
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618. Were we sitting in
the same courtroom?
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619. He sure as hell
looked guilty to me.
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620. To me, too. And
that's the problem.
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621. You were all over him, Jack.
He should have broken down.
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622. He did.
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623. No. I mean, he should have
confessed under that much pressure.
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624. That's the typical response
for a family annihilator.
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625. Why the hell didn't
you tell me this before?
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626. Because you told me he
would never take the stand.
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627. So you're changing your opinion?
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628. I'm not saying he's innocent.
I'm just qualifying my opinion.
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629. Look, Jack, I told you I was on
shaky ground at the start of this.
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630. Well, I guess she's not as
expert as we thought she was.
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631. It's not Liz's fault. She
never interviewed Weber.
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632. Then she should have
kept her mouth shut.
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633. I called her to the stand, Adam.
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634. Now you'll have to recall her.
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635. The jury should
find that enlightening.
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636. She didn't change her opinion.
She just supplemented it.
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637. It's not necessarily
exculpatory.
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638. Right. If the jury happens to
fall asleep while she's testifying.
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639. And besides, don't you think Weber's
expert saw the same thing Olivet did?
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640. Of course he did. That's why
you're gonna have to plea this out.
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641. Weber already
turned down a deal.
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642. Because you didn't
offer him man one.
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643. Adam... Offer it and move on!
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644. A deal, now?
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645. After Olivet's latest
pronouncement from the mount,
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646. Mr. Weber will be free
to kill whoever he wants.
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647. Not necessarily.
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648. You're talking to me, Claire.
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649. I've actually been to a
couple of trials, remember?
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650. It's kind of ironic.
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651. I was just starting to feel
good about the system.
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652. You know, the good
guys win and all that.
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653. We were thinking maybe
he'd buy two counts of man one.
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654. You wanna get me disbarred?
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655. Besides, you know,
maybe the SOB didn't do it.
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656. Wouldn't that be
a kick in the butt?
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657. Tell you what, that flower shop's
looking real good right about now.
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658. There is an alternative.
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659. Like?
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660. Like finding out what
the truth actually is.
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661. Let Olivet interview Weber.
If he confesses, take the deal.
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662. And if he doesn't?
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663. We won't use anything he
says against him in court.
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664. You'll have your acquittal.
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665. That's not putting the
poker chips away, Claire.
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666. That's doubling the bet.
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667. What scares me most is
what's gonna happen to Jenna.
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668. She's living with
your wife's sister.
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669. If I'm convicted,
she'll always think...
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670. It would be easier if you
tried to explain to her why.
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671. What? Why all you
people are framing me?
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672. Your daughter may
understand more than you think.
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673. It may be the best
thing for both of you.
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674. I'm fighting for my life
here, for my daughter's life.
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675. What do you mean?
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676. She had trouble with her
boyfriend, she came to me.
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677. Trouble with homework,
me. Trouble with Joyce...
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678. I was always there
to make things right.
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679. Your daughter had
trouble with your wife?
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680. She was a teenager.
I protected her.
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681. I gave her a good home, private
schools, anything she wanted.
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682. When did you start
to feel helpless?
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683. What do you want from me?
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684. You felt guilt. You felt shame.
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685. You saw ruin and were
powerless to stop it.
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686. You tried to hide it with
alcohol, but that didn't work.
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687. All right.
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688. I'm a failure.
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689. I'm a spineless drunk who
can't take care of his family.
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690. I couldn't handle it.
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691. Only I didn't kill them.
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692. He's a textbook case but for
the fact that he refuses to confess.
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693. So you're saying
he didn't do it?
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694. I'm saying that I can't be sure.
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695. But he was drunk. Is it just
possible he didn't remember?
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696. It's a possibility.
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697. You know, he did say something
curious about his wife and his daughter,
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698. that he was always
there to make things right.
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699. So they fought. What teenage
daughter doesn't fight with her mother?
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700. Yeah, but if it was more
than normal fighting,
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701. that may explain why Jenna
says she didn't see anything.
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702. He protected her, so
she's protecting him.
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703. Especially if he was so drunk that he
didn't even know what he was doing.
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704. So let's talk to her.
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705. I doubt she'll
tell you the truth.
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706. But maybe her aunt will.
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707. This is crazy. Ron
tried to kill Jenna, too.
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708. Why would she want
him to get away with it?
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709. She's scared. She's embarrassed.
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710. She knows he's ill.
It could be anything.
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711. How did Jenna get
along with Joyce?
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712. Like any mother and daughter.
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713. They fought, but
Jenna loved her.
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714. I can't believe she
would lie to protect him.
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715. We're just trying to get a sense of
the family dynamic, Mrs. Cochran.
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716. It could help us
to convince Jenna.
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717. Joyce ran the house.
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718. When the kids needed it, she
disciplined them. She was strong.
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719. Ron, he wanted to be the
nice guy, the kids' favorite.
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720. Whatever anybody wanted.
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721. What did Joyce and
Jenna fight about?
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722. It was about that
boyfriend of hers, mostly.
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723. Joyce didn't approve of him?
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724. He was trouble.
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725. 15,000 a year for private
school, and he was expelled.
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726. Always in trouble with the
cops, drugs and things like that.
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727. But Jenna stopped seeing him.
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728. Talk to me, Chester.
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729. So I went out with Jenna a couple of
times, what's that got to do with anything?
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730. So how did that make you
feel when she cut you off?
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731. The river's full of trout.
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732. Well, tell me, lover boy, why'd they
can you at that expensive school?
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733. I'm not the academic type.
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734. Yeah, well, according to this,
you were suspected of dealing.
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735. Suspected, yeah.
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736. And what about your
juvie record, Chester?
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737. That's sealed.
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738. Well, we talked to the
arresting officer. Armed robbery.
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739. Yeah, I was a kid.
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740. Sixteen.
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741. You know what I'm
thinking, Chester?
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742. I'm thinking that maybe you thought you'd
help yourself to Mrs. Weber's jewelry.
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743. Really? Now why would
I do a thing like that?
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744. Because you got to know how to
read to check out the help wanteds.
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745. Only you couldn't find
anything. So you got pissed off,
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746. you decided to take it
out on the Weber family.
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747. Don't I get a lawyer
or something?
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748. I'll bring you the Yellow
Pages. They got pictures.
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749. I'll call his parents.
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750. Don't bother.
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751. You want us to let him go?
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752. Unfortunately, stupid's
not against the law.
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753. It sure adds up to
reasonable doubt, though.
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754. Jack?
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755. Do you think Weber is innocent?
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756. Or do you think we're just gonna have
a tougher time proving that he's guilty?
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757. I'm impressed. I never thought
you distinguished between the two.
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758. Right. Hang 'Em High McCoy.
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759. Get off it, Jack.
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760. You're the one who's
always talking about the game.
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761. You're the one
hell-bent on winning.
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762. If I'm convinced that
the defendant is guilty.
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763. But look how easy it is to be
convinced, or should I say deluded?
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764. How many times do we win just
because the defense missed something?
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765. You never answered
my question about Weber.
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766. Chester Manning is not the most
upstanding citizen I've come across.
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767. Add that to Olivet's new
position, makes you wonder.
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768. Then who did it?
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769. Let's say it was the boyfriend.
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770. Why would Jenna
still protect him?
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771. She's a kid. She knows
her father's innocent,
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772. and she believes the
system will ultimately work.
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773. She loves Chester.
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774. But he shot her, too.
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775. Or she's feeling very guilty.
The house wasn't tossed, was it?
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776. So how did Chester know
where to find the jewelry?
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777. You're saying Jenna
told him? Why not?
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778. And when the jewelry
wasn't there, he went crazy.
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779. She feels responsible for the
deaths of her mother and her brother.
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780. She can't bring
herself to admit it.
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781. This is unbelievable.
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782. Think about it, Ron.
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783. Who else could have
gotten into the house?
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784. Who else could have
known where the jewelry was?
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785. I would have given her money.
She didn't have to rob her own house.
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786. You didn't have any
money, remember?
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787. We had enough.
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788. She had everything she wanted.
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789. But did Chester Manning?
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790. Fine, have Briscoe
pick up Jenna.
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791. No.
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792. Look, I'm sure if Jenna
had anything to do with this,
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793. it was all that bastard's idea.
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794. I take it you didn't
care for Mr. Manning.
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795. The drugs.
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796. He robbed a grocery store when he was
15, but his parents had it all hushed up.
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797. But I'm sure Jenna
stopped seeing him.
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798. What if she hadn't, Mr. Weber?
How would your wife have reacted?
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799. She would have locked her in a
closet, that's what. Joyce didn't want...
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800. If you'll help us, we can
work something out for Jenna.
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801. She's not going to jail.
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802. Your office. 3:00, Jack.
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803. We're all glad you finally
came to your senses, Mr. Weber.
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804. Let's get it over with.
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805. What can you do for me?
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806. Two counts of man one.
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807. Served consecutively.
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808. What's going on?
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809. How many years is that?
- Thirty.
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810. But he didn't do anything.
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811. That's not the way the
jury's gonna see it, Jenna.
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812. This is the best thing.
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813. No, you can't do this.
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814. You have a deal, Mr. McCoy.
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815. Stop.
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816. If you know something,
Jenna, you better tell us now.
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817. Okay. Fine, let's wrap this up.
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818. No. Wait.
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819. It's my fault. He
didn't do anything.
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820. Who was it?
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821. I told him where my
mother hid her jewelry.
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822. Who?
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823. Chester.
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824. Okay. And then what happened?
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825. He got mad when it wasn't there.
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826. He was stoned out of his head.
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827. I didn't know he was
gonna shoot everyone.
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828. Okay. We got what we wanted,
Jack. The deal's still in place.
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829. Jenna serves no time.
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830. What's going on?
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831. It's okay.
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832. Chester used you.
It's not your fault.
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833. You'll have my motion to
dismiss first thing in the morning.
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834. Thanks, Claire.
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835. One more question, Jenna.
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836. Why didn't you just
take the jewelry yourself?
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837. Obviously you still
thought it was in the closet.
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838. Why wouldn't that have been
easier than getting Chester involved?
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839. Please answer my
question, Miss Weber.
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840. Chester wasn't there
for the jewelry, was he?
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841. He was there to
murder your mother.
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842. And you knew about it. No.
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843. This wasn't a robbery at all.
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844. You wanted your mother dead.
You hired Chester Manning.
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845. The jewelry was just
supposed to be his payment.
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846. The police have already
picked up your boyfriend.
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847. I have a feeling he's not the
type to stick his neck out for you.
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848. I can't believe you
wanted your mother dead.
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849. Three out of four.
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850. You can't stand losing. Can you?
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