1. In the criminal justice system
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2. the people are represented by two
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3. the police
who investigate crime
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4. and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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5. These are their stories.
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6. Final out, '69 World Series.
Who made the catch?
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7. Tommie Agee. Yeah, right.
What'd he do?
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8. Take a subway over
from center field?
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9. Maybe he ran.
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10. Then he would've ran into Cleon
Jones, who made the catch.
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11. Cleon?
Yeah. I saw it.
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12. My dad loved the Mets.
He took me to all the games.
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13. Okay, Einstein, who on the
Orioles hit that ball?
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14. Davey Johnson.
You think I didn't know that?
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15. I guess not.
You're the man who knows it all.
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16. Hey, Garrity!
What?
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17. Look.
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18. Oh, man.
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19. Check it out.
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20. What do we got?
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21. A kid, he's dead 12, 14 hours.
I'd say 1800 hours yesterday.
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22. A nice out-of-the-way
place to kill somebody.
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23. You mean
dump somebody.
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24. His sneakers are clean and
there's no blood on the ground.
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25. You could've carried
this kid any place.
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26. Look at the size of that crack.
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27. Yeah, it's a
blunt object to the head.
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28. There's no other obvious
marks or bruises on him.
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29. He can't be older
than 12, maybe 13.
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30. Yeah, that's about right.
Algebra 1, Lord of the Flies.
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31. Let's see, "Derrick Walters.
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32. "In case of accident or emergency
contact Estelle Walters." Great.
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33. Here.
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34. You done with this side?
Yes, sir. I am.
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35. All right.
Let's roll him.
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36. Three dollars.
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37. Here's a pin
for blowing up balls.
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38. Nobody on my block ever had
one when we needed it.
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39. "They must be destroyed."
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40. Let me see that.
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41. Damn!
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42. What is that?
The school fight song?
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43. Andrew Dillard.
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44. What, the psycho?
The one who killed four black kids?
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45. Five. And every one of them
had this note in his pocket.
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46. Lennie, he's in prison.
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47. Yeah, but somebody got
a hold of his playbook.
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48. The warden at Sing Sing
did a headcount personally.
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49. Andrew Dillard's present
and accounted for.
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50. A copy cat, five years later?
Where's he been?
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51. At home, watching
the Justice Network?
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52. They just did a special
on serial killers.
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53. Educational TV.
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54. But Dillard
was a psycho racist.
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55. Is that what's
driving this guy?
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56. There's no sign
of sexual molestation.
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57. Well, that doesn't mean
the killer didn't try.
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58. There's no sign
of a struggle either.
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59. Except a fractured skull.
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60. Take a walk in the
dead boy's high-tops.
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61. He still had his
school books with him.
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62. He left school a little after
3:00 and never made it home.
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63. That's a lot
of ground to cover.
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64. The boy's mother's here.
She just made the ID.
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65. Thanks, Gia.
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66. I'll take it.
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67. I went to the
police station last night,
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68. and I took Derrick's picture
so they could go look for him.
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69. What time was that, Mrs.
Walters?
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70. 8:15.
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71. I got home at 7:00.
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72. Derrick's always there
waiting for me.
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73. The sergeant
wouldn't do anything.
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74. He said that Derrick was
probably out with some friends.
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75. I called his friends before I
even went to the police station.
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76. Boys, they're not always good
at getting home on time.
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77. We go to the market for our
dinner groceries every night.
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78. It's our time together.
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79. What does Derrick usually
do when school lets out?
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80. Basketball.
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81. He's on the team
at Saint Justin's Church.
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82. It's right across
the street from our house.
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83. And then he comes right home.
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84. Can this wait?
I got to close to a jury in six minutes.
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85. You prosecuted Andrew Dillard, right?
Right.
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86. We found a boy dead this morning
with a note in his pocket.
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87. Black?
"They must be destroyed."
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88. It's not Dillard. He's serving
five consecutive life sentences.
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89. He's copying Dillard.
Can you tell us what we're looking for?
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90. Dillard had a rage
against young black males.
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91. He was mugged. The police caught
the mugger, but he was acquitted.
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92. So he thought the scales of justice
needed a little adjustment?
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93. It wasn't logical. He killed good
kids, bad kids, whoever he met.
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94. How'd he meet them?
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95. Drove a delivery truck
for a bakery.
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96. He'd see kids outside grocery
stores, hand out freebies.
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97. Candy from a stranger.
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98. He was in here
every night with his mom.
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100. I was teaching him Spanish,
one word a day.
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101. Did he stop in
for a lesson yesterday?
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102. Yeah. "Peligroso."
He could pronounce it, too.
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103. Do you remember
what time that was, Rhonda?
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104. That was about 4:30,
just after my break.
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105. Did you see Derrick talking to anybody
on his way over to the register,
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106. or on his way out?
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107. No, just our security guard.
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108. Is that him?
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109. No, it was one
of the other guys.
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110. The company rotates me around,
you know, stores, bank machines,
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111. sometimes block patrol for a
neighborhood association.
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112. And, yesterday,
the Gotham market?
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113. Yes.
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114. I feel terrible about that boy.
I had to chase him out of there.
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115. You chased him out?
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116. Well, told him to move along.
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117. He was looking at those
girlie magazines.
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118. You know what's
in some of those?
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119. You give him the standard
"You'll go blind" speech, too?
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120. Store policy, you got to be 21.
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121. Did you see him talk to anybody
after he talked to you?
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122. He just walked away, alone.
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123. You saw him leave?
Which way did he go?
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124. Out the door and...
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125. It must have been right.
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126. North.
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127. Well, he couldn't look at those
nudies when his mother was with him.
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128. This guy has Derrick heading
north, away from his apartment.
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129. He still had two hours
before mom showed up.
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130. Maybe he was going
to go visit a friend.
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131. His mother called his friends.
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132. Hey, did your mother always
know all of your friends?
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133. Derrick and me, we wasn't
really in it together.
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134. Well, your coach says
you hung out together.
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135. Only here.
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136. It sucks that he got killed,
he was our best forward.
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137. Carlos, you live a couple
of blocks uptown from here.
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138. That's the way Derrick was
heading before he got killed.
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139. I didn't do it.
I didn't even see him.
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140. Hey, nobody said
you did anything wrong.
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141. We just want to know
where he was going.
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142. I don't know,
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143. unless maybe to see Ernie.
He lives near me.
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144. There's no Ernie on the team.
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145. Ernie's a scout
for high schools.
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146. He comes to some of our games.
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147. Derrick said he was going
to get him a scholarship.
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148. A kid you were scouting,
Mr. Bigelow. Derrick Walters.
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149. Great hook shot
and a great kid.
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150. If he did anything,
I'm sure it's a mistake.
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151. I'll vouch for him
down the line.
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152. Yeah, well, when did
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153. Monday afternoon.
I was packing on my way to Rochester.
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154. My sister had a baby girl.
I'm an uncle.
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at your apartment?
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157. Yeah, what's this about?
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158. Derrick was killed
on Monday afternoon.
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159. Oh, man!
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160. What happened?
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161. Well, that's what we're trying to find out.
What time was Derrick there?
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162. About 5:00. He just sort of popped
in to watch highlight reels.
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163. Northern Prep, that's the
school I was scouting him for.
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164. Was that normal for Derrick to just
sort of pop in on you like that?
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165. Once in a while. He liked to talk basketball.
I had to throw him out.
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166. I was catching the train.
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167. About 5:30.
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168. He walked me to the subway and
then he said he was going home.
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at Northern Prep says
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170. that Ernie Bigelow
isn't even on the payroll.
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171. Not a bad scam,
pretending to be a scout.
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172. He freelances.
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173. If he finds a kid the school likes,
they toss him a couple of bucks.
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174. From that,
he makes a living?
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175. Well, he used to be a high
school coach full-time.
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176. I just got off the phone
with his former employer.
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177. You find out why
he's not there anymore?
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178. Yeah, "I don't know."I don't remember.
" And, "I can't talk about it."
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179. Sounds like maybe boys
and locker rooms.
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180. Derrick Walters wasn't abused.
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181. Not the day he was killed.
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182. Well, what about the note?
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183. Would get us looking
for a white man.
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184. I don't know
how else to say it.
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185. I didn't kill Derrick.
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186. You want me to try it
hanging from the chandelier?
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187. Trust me, if you killed this kid,
you're going to hang, all right.
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188. You already told us, you were the
last person to see him alive.
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189. Except for the guy
who killed him.
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190. You told us you kicked
him out of your place at 5:30
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191. so you could catch
a train to Rochester?
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192. Right.
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193. Right. Well, we may be dumb cops, Ernie,
but we know how to read a timetable.
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leave till 8:00.
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195. I stopped and had dinner first, the
food on the train is terrible.
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196. I don't remember you telling us
anything about dinner. You, Lennie?
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197. I don't remember you
asking my full life story.
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198. You asked when
I last saw Derrick.
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199. Look, why am I supposed
to have done this?
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200. I make my living recruiting kids
like Derrick, not killing them.
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201. Well, we'll get to that, Ernie.
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202. See, the people at your old
school are being very discreet,
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203. but we're going
to get the story.
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204. That has nothing
to do with this.
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206. That's ridiculous.
We'll see about that.
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207. Look, what happened at my old
school was about gambling.
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209. And you can prove that?
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210. Look, to clear myself of this I have to give
you the name of a guy who'll break my legs.
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211. So you can't prove it?
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219. Hey, he's got marks
on his neck.
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our guy though.
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222. Dillard strangled,
stabbed and bludgeoned.
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224. Sean Monroe.
Twelve, going on nothing.
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227. Yeah, yeah, we got the
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on her own now.
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241. You know how hard it is to
get a boy to study geometry
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of his has a gun?
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245. I took a second job last year so we
could put him in private school,
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247. Yeah. I've heard of it, good
sports teams, did Sean play?
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248. It was required.
Sean played basketball.
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249. Did he ever say anything about being
scouted by a guy named Ernie Bigelow?
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250. Nobody'd be scouting Sean.
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255. Sean wore a crucifix that
he got on his first communion.
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257. Same age, same color,
approximately same time of day.
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258. Sean Monroe was a troublemaker,
Derrick Walters an angel.
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259. Yeah, for a 12-year-old.
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260. I don't know, there might be something
in the basketball connection.
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261. No, I talked to the principal
at Ernie Bigelow's old school.
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262. He was fired for gambling.
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263. Plus, he was in Rochester the
same day Sean Monroe was killed.
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264. I just confirmed it with his
sister and two of her neighbors.
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267. I also talked to the M.E.
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268. Well, it might have broken off if
he was strangled with the chain.
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marks on his neck.
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270. Serial killers
sometimes take trophies.
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271. Well, there could be
a religious angle.
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272. Derrick played on a church basketball
team, now the missing cross.
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273. So we look for vampires
and members of the clergy?
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274. Oh, now that's good thinking.
Get out of here, jeez!
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275. Unfortunately, Sean didn't
have a lot of friends here.
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276. Well, it looks like maybe he
didn't quite fit in, huh?
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277. He didn't. But it wasn't race.
Class counts for more.
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278. You explain that to Sean's parents
before you took their money?
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279. They sent him here to keep him
away from bad influences.
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280. We did everything we could
to provide that environment.
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281. We'll need to talk to your bus driver.
Want to find out where Sean got off.
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282. He wasn't on the bus. Since this
morning, I've talked to his teachers.
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283. Sean cut his afternoon classes.
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284. Alone?
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285. We'll take that as a no.
Who else played hooky?
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at least one friend?
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288. What the boys didn't like,
a girl found interesting?
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289. It was nothing.
These are children.
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290. Well, the principal must have been wrong.
Vanessa doesn't cut classes.
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291. Is that right, Vanessa?
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292. Well, usually.
Vanessa.
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293. Where did you
and Sean go yesterday?
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295. A classmate of your daughters.
He was murdered last night.
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296. Murdered? Well, what's this
got to do with Vanessa?
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If you could just...
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298. Just nothing.
I have a right to know what's going on.
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299. Then why don't
you let us find out, okay?
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301. We cut class, Sean and me.
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305. Sean met up with a couple of friends
from his old school. Felix and Damien.
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They do all kinds of stuff.
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do they do, Vanessa?
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They talk about stealing.
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all hang together.
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or he could go with me.
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of Natural History.
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314. Well, both of your parents are on
their way down, and you know what?
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315. They weren't too thrilled to
be hearing from the police.
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316. Look, I don't know what you think you got.
You're wasting your time.
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317. Well, what do you
want us to tell them?
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318. That you're helping us out
or that you're under arrest?
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319. You can't even talk to us without
them anyway, or without a lawyer.
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320. Well, Damien,
that's if you're a suspect.
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321. You're here as witnesses.
Witnesses to what?
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322. When's the last time
you saw Sean Monroe?
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323. Long time before he got killed.
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324. Look, why aren't you out
trying to solve who did it?
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325. Good idea, why don't
you help us out
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with him yesterday afternoon?
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327. We wasn't doing nothing.
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330. Around.
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331. You know what, Rey? I think these punks
are going to need lawyers after all.
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332. I'm sure your parents
won't mind paying for them.
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where the stores are at.
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What's it matter?
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about the small stuff.
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the cracks, all right?
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picking up things, too?
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343. Where was that, what store?
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344. I don't know.
We split up.
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this cop had him by the neck.
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347. They call it
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348. I call it walking in circles
with 20 pounds on my waist.
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349. I guess I'm lucky.
All I have to carry around is junior here.
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351. Yeah. Wise guy.
What did he do?
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352. Got killed.
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353. I thought he was
a little young for that.
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still stealing water guns.
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355. You see him stealing anything yesterday
afternoon, a little after 2:00?
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356. A little after 2:00, I was resolving a
parking-space dispute on Riverside.
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357. Well, his friends say they saw him
getting nabbed by a cop on this block.
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359. And if it was a uniform,
it wasn't anybody else.
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360. 'Cause I am the
community-based policeman.
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radio cars around.
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362. Those guys don't stop here unless they
hear gunfire, or to make fun of me.
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Okay.
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were making this up.
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365. Well, from right here, Lennie, I
can see three security guards.
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know the difference
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and the real thing.
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369. From a hundred yards, running scared,
with six hot CDs in their pants?
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371. Derrick Walters was chased out of a
store by a security guard, right?
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rotates around town.
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373. I don't have to go with you
if I am not under arrest.
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no problem, Simon.
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376. Help you how?
This is Sean Monroe.
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380. Well, there's a little coincidence
that's kind of bothering us, Simon.
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381. See, two days ago, Derrick Walters had a
run-in with you at the Gotham market,
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he was dead.
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383. Now, yesterday, this boy had a run-in
with a security guard on Broadway,
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Why is that, Simon?
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I see them all the time.
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388. Yeah, but only one of them was with
that first boy before he was killed.
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It's circular reasoning.
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keep a Bible here, Simon.
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suspicious, can't you?
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you're telling me the truth?
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never touched those boys
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right out of here.
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401. The Bible is not
for playing games.
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402. This is no game.
This is serious.
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403. This is a crime.
But I didn't do it.
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404. And I'll believe you. Just swear to God.
Put your hand right there.
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405. Go ahead, swear to God.
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406. Go ahead, put your hand down
on that and swear to God.
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407. You don't know
what you're asking.
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408. You got a problem
with that, Simon?
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409. They were sinners.
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410. Derrick Walters
and Sean Monroe?
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411. Both of them.
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412. Well, there are a lot of sinners in
town, Simon, why'd you pick these two?
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413. You wouldn't understand.
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414. Help us.
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415. I'm telling you what I did,
isn't that all you care about?
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416. That's not the way it works.
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417. This one
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418. looked at filthy magazines.
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419. A lot of people looked
at that rack, didn't they?
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420. He was wearing an image
of Saint Justin.
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421. It wasn't just lust.
It was sacrilege.
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422. What image?
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423. On his head.
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424. A hat from his basketball team.
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425. Justin was a martyr
to our Lord.
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426. And the other boy,
he was wearing a cross.
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427. Mmm-hmm.
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428. And he stole,
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429. defiling our Lord.
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430. He had to be destroyed.
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431. The same notes
Andrew Dillard left.
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432. Did you get the idea
from reading about him?
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433. It wasn't an idea.
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434. God put them in my path.
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435. But you wrote those notes, why?
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436. So people would understand.
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437. You thought Dillard
hadn't made the point?
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438. He had nothing to do with it.
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439. Not with Derrick and Sean.
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440. Not with any of it.
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441. I killed those boys.
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442. I killed all those boys.
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443. You just gave
Dillard the credit.
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444. I guess you checked this out?
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445. Brooks knows places, times of death,
methods, and he kept souvenirs,
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446. religious medals or crosses,
off of every one of the kids
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447. that Dillard was
blamed for killing.
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448. And the parents ID'd them.
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449. But after Dillard went to prison, the
killings stopped for five years.
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450. Well, when Dillard got arrested,
Brooks told his mother what he'd done.
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451. Now, she didn't give him up, but
she put him on phenothiazine,
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452. some kind of sanity juice.
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453. It and she kept him in check,
but she died two months ago,
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454. and he started missing
his appointments at Bellevue.
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455. Hey, the system's not perfect.
It's one in a million.
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456. My one.
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457. Everybody's calling, from The
Times to The Enquirer.
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458. What do I say about
Andrew Dillard?
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459. Oops.
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460. Tell them your staff is so good, they
can even convict an innocent man.
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461. How did this happen? You and Diana
Hawthorne, two of my best people.
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462. Had a very strong case.
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463. Dillard was a racist and a nut.
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464. Fibers on the victims were the same
type as his delivery man's uniform.
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465. His handwriting matched
the notes on the victims.
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466. He was seen arguing with one of the
victims the same day he was murdered.
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467. And no one saw him
murder anybody.
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468. Most killers aren't thoughtful
enough to provide witnesses.
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469. Yes. Right.
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470. We do circumstantial cases
all the time.
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471. I hope Mr. Dillard
is understanding.
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472. Meanwhile, I moved him
downstate, pending release.
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473. He wants to meet.
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474. If we're lucky, he may just ask
for a pound of your flesh.
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475. Five years of my life.
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476. You know what I learned?
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477. How to make a shiv
out of a toothbrush.
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478. I am sorry, Mr. Dillard.
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479. I spent most of my time in a cell
about the size of this table,
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480. to protect me
from the brothers.
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481. You said I killed black boys.
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482. That's the way
the evidence pointed.
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483. My ass.
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484. Go on. Tell him.
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485. What he did.
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486. My client is referring
to our claim
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487. that you intentionally engaged in a
malicious and wrongful prosecution.
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488. Intentionally? I don't like what
happened, but my conscience is clear.
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489. What about your memory?
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490. This statement was taken by a detective,
two months before Mr. Dillard's trial.
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491. It was never turned
over to the Defense.
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492. "Regarding Jaleel Franklin"?
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493. He was victim number three. The one Mr.
Dillard was seen arguing with.
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494. A witness told the detective
she saw the boy an hour later
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495. walking into Central Park
with a black man,
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496. Simon Brooks.
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497. She called me when she saw
his face on the news.
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498. I've never seen this before.
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499. Isn't that what prosecutors say when
they bury exculpatory evidence?
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500. He specializes in this kind of case.
Can you believe it?
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501. Keep it.
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502. It's the basis of our
suit for $50 million.
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503. I've made copies.
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504. Malicious prosecution, false
imprisonment, tortious interference.
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505. Do you want to order?
No.
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506. We'll just be a minute.
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507. Isn't there a rule about
not making it personal?
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508. Haven't you heard? I personally,
deliberately, suppressed evidence.
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509. It's ridiculous.
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510. Right.
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511. "Right?" That's a ringing
endorsement.
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512. Jack, you have made
some pretty close calls.
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513. You want to co-sign
the complaint?
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514. Does it occur to you that the
detective who took that statement
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515. might not have given it to me?
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516. What would his motive be?
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517. What's mine supposed to be?
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518. I'll look into it.
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519. Thank you.
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520. The Dillard case?
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521. Two hundred cops were
tearing the city apart.
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522. I got called in off of public
morals to canvass 110th Street.
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523. And you found this witness?
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524. Laverne Chalmers.
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525. Third-floor apartment, walks with
a limp, offered me Ovaltine.
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526. You remember all that?
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527. It's part of the job,
Ms. Kincaid.
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528. Well, didn't you think it was strange that
what she said never came up at the trial?
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529. I turn the statement over to the D.
A., the witness never shows up.
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530. I mean, that's not unusual.
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531. Maybe somebody investigated and
found out she hears voices.
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532. Maybe she dropped dead.
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533. But you're sure, you did
hand over the statement?
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534. Put it in the D.A.'s
hand personally.
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535. My partner was there.
You don't believe me, ask him.
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536. Personally?
To Jack McCoy?
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537. No, the other one.
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538. A good-looking woman,
like you.
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539. I love you too, Donald,
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540. but I don't think the judge is going
to care about your plastic surgery.
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541. That's right, 9:00 a.m.
See you there.
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542. The part of private
practice I hate, clients.
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543. It was filling out time
sheets that kept me away.
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544. I was served with the
Dillard lawsuit yesterday.
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545. Jack's got you on the case?
He doesn't trust the city attorney?
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546. Call it
an internal investigation.
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547. I'm just trying to
find out what happened.
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548. Jack must be frantic,
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549. trying to figure out how to pound
out all the dents in his integrity.
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550. Maybe you can help.
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551. The detective who took
the missing witness statement
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552. said that he never
met with Jack.
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553. Only with you.
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554. I've met a lot of detectives.
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555. If he gave me that statement,
I turned it over to Jack.
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556. He was the lead prosecutor.
You know what that's like.
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557. He says he never saw it.
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558. What do you expect him to say?
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559. Well, I expect him
to tell me the truth.
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560. Oh, my!
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561. Look, Claire?
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562. You know how Jack operates.
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563. Yes.
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564. But if he never even
saw the statement...
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565. Fine. It got lost.
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566. It happens.
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567. You don't believe that?
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568. I know Jack McCoy.
I worked with him for four years.
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569. I know.
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570. And I slept with him for three.
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571. I know.
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572. And maybe that's
affecting your judgment.
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573. And it's not affecting yours?
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574. You are sleeping
with him, aren't you?
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575. The cop says he gave the evidence to Diana.
Diana said she gave it to you.
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576. Actually, she says if she
got it she gave it to Jack.
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577. "If, if, if.
" That makes us look so much better.
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578. We'll get to
the bottom of this.
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579. The damage has been done.
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580. We've got cops all over the
country manufacturing evidence.
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581. Criminal justice system
held in contempt.
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582. And now this gangrene creeps
into the prosecutor's office.
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583. This prosecutor's office!
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584. So we just board up the windows
and go out of business?
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585. No, we suspend you.
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586. Until I know what happened.
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587. Am I permitted to participate
in my own defense?
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588. I am not banning you
from the building.
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589. Correspondence,
pleadings, forensics.
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590. No statement.
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591. Does it matter?
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592. If it's there, I concealed it.
If it's not, I destroyed it.
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593. I got a notice
from Dillard's lawyer.
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594. He wants to depose me.
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595. I was in law school
when this case happened.
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596. Pattern.
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597. "Ms. Kincaid,
do you believe
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598. "the defendant McCoy concealed
or destroyed the statement?"
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599. Objection. I wasn't there.
What I think is irrelevant.
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600. You can't object.
It's a deposition.
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601. "No."
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602. "Have you ever seen the defendant
McCoy withhold exculpatory material?"
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603. Jack.
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604. The Rowland case.
The statement of the retarded girl.
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605. That went to motive.
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606. It's not an element
of the crime.
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607. The judge disagreed.
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608. "So, Ms. Kincaid,
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609. "have you ever seen the defendant
McCoy withhold exculpatory material?"
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610. "Yes."
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611. You're going to say that?
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612. I have to say that.
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613. I didn't believe
I had a duty to disclose.
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614. "He didn't believe
he had a duty to disclose."
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615. Does that help?
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616. Not if you say it like that.
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617. Jack, what did the handwriting
expert testify at the trial?
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618. That Dillard's writing conclusively
matched the notes found on the bodies.
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619. Experts make mistakes.
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620. Do they?
Here's his initial report.
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621. He was unable
to come to a conclusion.
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622. What changed his mind?
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623. He was Diana's witness.
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624. What can I say?
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625. The notes found in the dead boys' pockets
were block printed, not scripted.
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626. That makes it hard
to judge letter formation,
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627. whether the writing
is halted or tremulous.
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628. You told the jury the tremors
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629. definitely came from an attempt by
Dillard to avoid identification.
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630. And that's not what you said
in your initial report.
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631. Mr. McCoy, you were the prosecutor,
you know what happened.
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632. What happened?
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633. I spoke at length with Ms.
Hawthorne, your associate.
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634. The other evidence.
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635. What did she say?
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636. That you had incontrovertible physical
evidence that Mr. Dillard was the killer,
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637. and that it was thrown out
on some technicality.
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638. She told me to make my evidence
as strong as possible.
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639. She asked you to lie?
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640. Well, she said it wouldn't be a lie,
because Dillard did write the notes.
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641. He was the murderer.
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642. You didn't think to talk
to me about this?
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643. Well, I wanted to, but Ms.
Hawthorne said that you were too busy.
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644. That it wouldn't be necessary.
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645. So you just said the writing matched,
even though you couldn't really tell?
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646. A serial killer of children
was about to go free.
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647. I was told I was the only one who
could prevent that from happening.
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648. Jack.
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649. Diana.
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650. I begged you to get rid
of that coat eight years ago.
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651. You suborned perjury.
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652. You never showed me
the witness statement.
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653. I've been suspended.
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654. Two boys are dead.
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655. Wonderful opening statement.
Concise, but strong.
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656. I'm sure Claire is learning
a great deal from you.
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657. For the past three hours, I've
been trying to figure out
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658. what the hell
you were thinking.
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659. What you were thinking.
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660. Win the case.
Like that?
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661. How many times have I seen you
reject unreliable witnesses?
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662. How many times have I seen you
give experts a little pep talk?
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663. How many times have I seen you use a
footnote to the fine print of the CPL
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664. to avoid giving something
to the defense?
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665. You crossed a line
I never came near.
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666. Get off it, Jack.
You know what I did.
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667. Exactly what you wanted me to.
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668. The city needs this over.
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669. Dillard is getting $3,000,000
to settle his suit.
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670. Thank you, sir, and I'm
very glad to be back.
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671. Make yourself at home.
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672. Diana Hawthorne was
a very expensive employee.
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673. She's as good
as disbarred.
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674. The ethics committee has
already taken statements
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675. from the detective
and the handwriting expert.
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676. It's not enough.
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677. I'm sure they'll be
talking to you, too.
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678. Disbarment's not enough.
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679. It's over.
Get back to work.
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680. Derrick Walters and Sean
Monroe were murdered
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681. because we put
the wrong man in jail.
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682. Diana Hawthorne is responsible.
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683. Not criminally. There's no law
against prosecutorial misconduct.
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684. What kind of message
does that send?
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685. How can we expect people
to have confidence in us
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686. if we don't go after
bad prosecutors?
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687. But how? You want to charge Diana Hawthorne
with murder? The law doesn't fit.
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688. Turn the page.
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689. Criminal facilitation.
She engaged in conduct
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690. which provided a person with the means or
opportunity to commit a Class A felony.
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691. You want to step into a pit
of snakes and scorpions?
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692. Right now, you're cleared,
you're out of it.
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693. You want to try to put Diana
in jail for 15 years,
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694. she'll do anything,
say anything.
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695. I'll take that chance.
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696. Diana Hawthorne, please?
She's tied up right now.
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697. We'll untie her.
Wait.
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698. Just take it easy.
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699. Who are you?
Police. Stand up, please.
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700. Diana Hawthorne,
you're under arrest
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701. for criminal facilitation
in the second degree.
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702. You have the right
to remain silent.
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703. Anything you do say can be used against
you in a court of law, you understand?
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704. Jack.
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705. It's absurd, Your Honor, Ms.
Hawthorne cannot be held responsible
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706. for the actions of an insane
serial killer she never met.
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707. Look at the statute.
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708. She provided Simon Brooks the
opportunity to commit these crimes.
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709. If the police hadn't stopped looking
for him, he would have been in jail.
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710. If they had caught him.
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711. They seemed to think Andrew
Dillard was guilty. So did you.
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712. We all would have changed our minds if Ms.
Hawthorne had acted properly.
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713. And the massive manhunt for the
real killer would have resumed.
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714. How could I believe I was aiding
a man I didn't know existed?
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715. You didn't know his name.
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716. You knew somebody was killing young
boys and it wasn't Andrew Dillard.
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717. No, I thought it was
Andrew Dillard.
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718. And how could you possibly prove
what I was thinking, anyway?
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719. It can be inferred from the existence of
the witness statement you were concealing.
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720. Who says she concealed anything?
Her embarrassed former colleagues?
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721. I suggest we find out,
Mr. Fox, at a trial.
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722. Your motion to dismiss
is denied.
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723. It's a cover-up.
Mr. McCoy is worried
Copy !req
724. about saving his own reputation
and so he's scapegoating me.
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725. I was following his orders.
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726. The Nuremberg defense?
Who does that make me?
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727. All right.
That's enough.
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728. We'll hear the rest of this when Ms.
Hawthorne's attorney cross-examines you, Mr. McCoy.
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729. I assume that you'll be
prosecuting, Ms. Kincaid?
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730. Have your clerk contact mine
about a trial date.
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731. I had no knowledge of Ms.
Hawthorne's conversation with the expert witness,
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732. and if I had known, I never
would have condoned it.
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733. What she did was not standard
practice in your office?
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734. Absolutely not.
I followed
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735. and I expected
all of my associates
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736. to follow the rules
that apply to all lawyers,
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737. as well as their
responsibilities as prosecutors.
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738. Would you tell the jury what
that responsibility is?
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739. We represent the people
in a search for justice,
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740. which necessarily
means the truth.
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741. It's not a competition
and we're not paid to win.
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742. Thank you.
No further questions.
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743. Mr. McCoy,
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744. did you convict a man named Hank
Chappell of murder last year?
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745. Yes.
Was he guilty?
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746. No, the real murderers
conspired to frame him.
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747. When I learned that,
his conviction was voided.
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748. But you did manage to convict an innocent
man without any help from Diana Hawthorne?
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749. Yes.
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750. And as you were
preparing to try that case,
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751. conducting your search
for justice and truth,
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752. you found no indications
the man was innocent?
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753. No.
Isn't that odd,
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754. considering he was innocent?
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755. He appeared to be guilty.
Amazing.
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756. Not a single hint
of the truth to be found.
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757. Or maybe you did find one
or two and overlooked them.
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758. Objection. No foundation.
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759. Sustained.
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760. In the matter
of Andrew Dillard,
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761. you testified
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762. you never saw the witness statement
pointing to the real killer,
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763. and you never had a conversation
with your key expert witness.
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764. Nothing substantive.
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765. Aren't those odd omissions
for the lead prosecutor?
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766. I believed I was ably
assisted by the defendant.
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767. Whom you trusted
because you'd trained her.
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768. In part.
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769. You were her supervisor.
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770. Yes.
And her lover.
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771. Objection. Relevance.
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772. Overruled.
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773. Yes, we were lovers.
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774. Do you recognize the handwriting
on this note, Mr. McCoy?
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775. I don't think
you'll need the expert.
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776. It's mine.
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777. Would you read it?
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778. "Diana, thanks for an amazing night.
I had to get to the office early.
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779. "It's time to nail
Andrew Dillard."
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780. What'd you mean,
"Nail Andrew Dillard?"
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781. Prosecute him vigorously.
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782. How decorous. You sure you
didn't mean nail Andrew Dillard?
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783. It was facetious between
two people who were close.
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784. You certainly were.
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785. What Ms. Hawthorne
is accused of doing,
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786. wouldn't that consist of"
Nailing Andrew Dillard?"
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787. It's not what I intended.
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788. So she didn't read your mind.
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789. To convict Andrew Dillard, didn't Diana
Hawthorne, your subordinate, your lover,
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790. merely do what you told her?
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791. I never told her
to break the law.
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792. Why would I?
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793. There's no value in
incarcerating the wrong man.
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794. Really? Weren't you promoted
to your current position
Copy !req
795. three weeks after
Dillard was convicted?
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796. I was told I'd be getting that
position a month before the trial.
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797. It wasn't final.
You could have lost it.
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798. Didn't that give you
extra incentive to win?
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799. No, that was not a factor.
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800. Oh. Did you celebrate
your promotion alone?
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801. No.
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802. With Ms. Hawthorne?
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803. Yes.
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804. How?
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805. I took her to Ireland.
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806. Everything I knew about being
a prosecutor, I learned from Jack.
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807. And that included the handling of
potentially exculpatory evidence?
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808. In my judgment that
witness was unreliable.
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809. Jack always said, "You have
prosecutorial discretion. Use it."
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810. And the handwriting expert?
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811. Jack said an expert is
useless unless he's sure.
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812. I took great pride in my work.
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813. What happened in this case is a
prosecutor's worst nightmare.
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814. I never intended to
convict an innocent man.
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815. Thank you.
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816. Ms. Hawthorne,
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817. you took a solemn oath as an attorney
to uphold the law, didn't you?
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818. Jack took that same oath.
I saw how he followed it.
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819. Really? He never told you to conceal
evidence or suborn perjury, did he?
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820. I never did either
of those things.
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821. Come on.
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822. We've heard from the detective
who gave you the statement.
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823. We've heard from the expert
who you told to lie.
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824. Did Jack McCoy ask you to conceal
evidence or suborn perjury?
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825. Not in those words,
but he was driven to win,
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826. and he taught me
to be the same.
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827. Forget him. I mean, you're the
one who was so eager to win,
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828. you betrayed the principles
of your own profession.
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829. Objection. Argumentative.
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830. Sustained.
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831. You got a lucrative job in private practice
after the Dillard case, didn't you?
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832. It was
a year later.
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833. It was a lucrative job.
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834. Well, I never looked
for that job.
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835. I wanted to spend my entire career
in the district attorney's office.
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836. You left voluntarily,
didn't you?
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837. I left because I no longer felt
comfortable working with Jack,
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838. after our relationship changed.
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839. You mean after you
stopped being lovers?
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840. Yes.
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841. Your boss and your lover, that's
a pretty strong influence.
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842. Yes.
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843. So I did what
he wanted me to do.
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844. But why would he want you to do something
that could jeopardize his career?
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845. Jeopardize?
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846. It got him his promotion.
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847. Was that on your mind?
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848. Was it,
Ms. Hawthorne?
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849. At the time, no.
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850. But you knew
he wanted that promotion.
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851. Well, it wasn't a secret.
He's very ambitious.
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852. And you wanted
his admiration?
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853. Yes, he was my boss.
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854. And your lover.
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855. You wanted his affection.
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856. Yes.
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857. And what better way than to make
him a gift of that promotion?
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858. That's not what this was about.
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859. Of course it was.
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860. He never asked you
to do anything.
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861. You decided to get him
what he wanted.
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862. And like all good gifts,
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863. it was a surprise.
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864. The smell of this place.
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865. We worked a lot of nights.
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866. You shouldn't be
talking to me, Diana.
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867. Yeah.
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868. Well, I think
we broke a lot of rules.
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869. She's a smart girl, Jack.
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870. I don't think until today
I even admitted it to myself.
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871. That you committed
a heinous crime?
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872. No.
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873. That I did it for you.
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874. For my man.
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875. I didn't know women like me
did things like that.
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876. I never asked you.
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877. No.
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878. But I thought
you'd be grateful.
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879. You didn't need my gratitude.
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880. Yes, I did, Jack.
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881. And here we are.
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882. I took her plea, facilitation
in the fourth degree.
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883. She does six months and
gives up her license.
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884. I've got habeas motions
on my desk
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885. from every defendant
she ever came near.
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886. I'll go through them.
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887. You bet you will.
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888. You didn't have to
take the deal, Claire.
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889. You could have won the case.
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890. I know.
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891. But I thought
that's what you wanted.
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