1. In the criminal justice system
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2. the people are represented by two
separate yet equally important groups,
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3. the police
who investigate crime
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4. and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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5. These are their stories.
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6. Thirty-four metal,
twelve glass.
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7. Thirty-four metal,
twelve glass.
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8. Thirty-five metal,
twelve glass.
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9. Thirty-five metal,
twelve glass.
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10. Thirty-five-and-a-half
metal, twelve glass.
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11. Thirty-five-and-a-half
metal, twelve...
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12. Oh, my God.
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13. Oh, my God.
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14. Come on, Dorothy, click
your heels and wake up.
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15. Come on. Come...
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16. Oh, my God!
Help her! Help!
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17. What do you mean, "How's it going?
" It's only been a month.
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18. Come on, Lennie.
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19. He's okay.
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20. What? For a kid?
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21. I've got ties older than him
and some shoes, too, I think.
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22. I'd like it if you two
really became partners.
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23. Well, I'd like it if both my ex-wives
got new partners. No more alimony.
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24. And I'd like at least a token
effort at the chain of command.
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25. Is that all?
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26. That's all.
I'll see you in the morning.
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27. Yes, I'll tell him. Go to bed now, okay?
I'll see you in the morning.
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28. I love you.
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29. My daughter says good night.
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30. Right back at her.
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31. She's funny.
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32. She feels bad because you don't have
anyone to tuck you in at night.
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33. Oh, yeah? Now, let me guess
where she got that idea.
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35. Right, because my particulars
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36. are the hot topic of conversation
at your dinner table.
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37. Lennie, you're my partner.
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38. My wife worries about who's
watching my back, that's all.
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39. Briscoe.
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40. Yeah.
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41. Got it.
We're up.
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42. You know, it's a funny thing Rey,
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43. while your wife worries about
your back, I worry about mine.
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44. One of our recycling kings found
her about a half hour ago.
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45. He was looking for soda cans, lifted
up the plywood, and there she was.
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46. Any ID?
No.
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47. I got a team looking
for a schoolbag or purse.
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48. Dietrich, what's the story?
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49. Time of death, 6 to 10 hours.
Unknown cause.
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50. We got a hematoma on the
right side of her head,
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51. and abrasions on
the palms of her hands.
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52. Oh, man. What
is she, 12, 14?
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53. Somewhere in there.
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54. Take a Polaroid,
show it around,
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55. maybe somebody knows her
from the neighborhood.
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56. Not this neighborhood.
This blazer's from Paul Stuart.
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57. Kid's a long way from home.
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58. What's that smell?
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59. It's mothballs from this
sheet she was wrapped in.
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60. All right. Bag her hands and roll her.
And tell whoever's working the day shift
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61. I want this girl to be the
first cut in the morning.
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62. Poor kid, from Paul
Stuart blazers to this.
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63. Yeah. Not exactly what
her folks had in mind.
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64. Come on, let's see if we
can scare up a witness.
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65. I told you, I wasn't
looking outside.
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66. I was trying to get my baby to sleep.
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67. She's teething.
Yeah. I'm sorry.
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68. Look, I've been there.
Take my card.
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69. If you remember anything,
give me a call, okay?
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70. Yeah, and who do I call to make a
complaint about waking up my baby?
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71. Bunch of cigar-store Indians down there.
No see 'em, no talk 'em.
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72. Sorry.
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73. Wooden Indians are your culture,
Lennie, not my wife's.
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74. Sorry to wake you, sir. I'm Detective Curtis.
This is Detective Briscoe.
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75. If it's about that body they
found, I can't help you.
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76. I was in bed watching TV.
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77. Least till the
cavalry showed up.
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78. You mind if I get myself
a glass of water?
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79. I've been huffing up
these stairs all night.
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80. Make yourself at home.
Water's in the kitchen.
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81. Uh-huh!
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82. Now what do you do
for a living, Mr...
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83. Krutsky.
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84. Alan Krutsky.
I'm retired from the postal service.
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85. Disability, on
account of my feet.
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86. Look, I wanna get
back to my breakfast.
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87. Oh, be my guest.
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88. So, you stay home
most of the time, huh?
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89. That's right,
minding my own business.
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90. Right. And sitting in this chair
and watching the world go by, huh?
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91. It's a pretty nice
roost. Better than TV.
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92. So did you happen to catch the play-by-play
action in the vacant lot last night?
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93. Bums and drug addicts,
I don't wanna mess with.
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94. Can you leave now?
I like eating in private.
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95. Come on, Mr. Krutsky,
a little girl got killed.
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96. You were a public servant once.
You wanna help us out here?
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97. All I saw was a couple of
crackheads doing their thing.
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98. They cleared out about 10:00.
That's when I went to bed.
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99. Anything out of the ordinary?
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100. Well, there was this van.
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101. It came by two or three
times, just before 10:00.
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102. I thought maybe they
were looking for drugs.
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103. What kind of van?
A white van.
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104. I couldn't make out
a license plate. Okay?
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105. Goodbye now.
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106. Off the bat, I don't see any
signs of sexual trauma.
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107. I guess killing her
was traumatic enough.
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108. Brain hemorrhage in
the right temporal lobe.
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109. Judging by the rate of seepage, death
was within 20 minutes of the injury.
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110. That being the bump on the
right side of her head.
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111. Mmm-hmm.
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112. Hematoma's about the size
of an adult fist,
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113. but she didn't go
down without a fight.
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114. There were bruises on her upper arms,
probably from being pinned down.
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115. And she had bruises
on her knuckles.
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116. So she got in a few
punches. Good for her.
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117. Dietrich saw abrasions
on her hands.
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118. I found glass shards embedded
in her palms and in her hair,
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119. and that's it, gents,
quick and dirty.
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120. Anything else you want to see?
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121. They ran her through Missing Persons.
Nothing yet.
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122. I'm not worried. Girl in a Paul Stuart blazer,
somebody's bound to report her missing.
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123. What about the doer,
he leave a calling card?
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124. Well, the rape kit's negative.
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125. Forensics has the girl's
clothes and the sheet,
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126. and there was a white
van reported in the area.
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127. What about the sheet?
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128. The label's from
a mail-order place.
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129. Rey?
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130. The sheet?
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131. Oh!
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132. Blue and white queen flannel
top sheet, part of a set.
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133. The company stopped carrying
it about four years ago.
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134. They don't have any records.
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135. Maybe we can match up the MO.
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136. Go back a year, attempted abductions,
reports of children being approached.
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137. Lot
of overtime.
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138. Lucky you.
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139. Start with attempts on girls
matching our Jane Doe.
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140. These kinkos tend
to favor a type.
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141. Detective Briscoe,
there's a call.
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142. Thanks.
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143. Detective, close the door.
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144. This thousand-yard stare...
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145. Anything behind it I
should be concerned about?
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146. No. No. It's
just this kid.
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147. I see her lying on the slab, and I can't
help thinking it could be one of my...
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148. But it isn't. Look, if you're
going to bug out over every vic,
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149. I can't use you.
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150. Best therapy?
Clear the case.
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151. Missing Persons got a hit.
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152. Jody Gaines, 12, domiciled
at 450 East 88th.
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153. Father reported her
missing last night.
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154. Yes, that's her.
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155. What happens now?
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156. Well, there's some
forms to fill out.
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157. Then we'd like to talk to you.
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158. We'll also want to
talk to your wife.
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159. My ex-wife.
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160. She doesn't know. I wanted to wait
until I was certain it was Jody.
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161. Is there a phone?
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163. She can meet us
down at the precinct.
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164. On Wednesdays, Jody
takes piano lessons after school,
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165. on the West Side, on 76th.
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166. The school bus drops her off.
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168. Her piano teacher calls
a car service for her.
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169. Sounds like you
had her covered.
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170. I tried to protect my daughter.
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171. Then when I got home at
7:00, she wasn't there.
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172. She was supposed
to go to your place?
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173. She lives with me.
The court gave me custody.
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174. Anyway, I called her music teacher.
He said she never showed up for her lesson.
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175. I called the school.
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176. The vice-principal said she remembered
seeing Jody get on the bus.
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177. Mrs. Gaines, could she have skipped her
piano lesson and gone to visit you?
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178. No, she knows I work late.
I'm a buyer for Bloomingdale's.
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179. Anyway, she wouldn't miss her lesson.
She loved to play piano. She...
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180. Did she ever mention that someone
was watching her or following her?
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181. No.
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183. I warned my daughter about the kinds
of people that are out there.
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about her schedule?
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185. My housekeeper. Mr.
Behrens, piano teacher.
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186. And the people at her school.
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187. They have to be asking
themselves the question.
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188. What question is that?
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189. Well, if the family was still
together, maybe the girl'd be alive.
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190. How do you figure?
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191. Come on, divorced parents are so busy
making a new life for themselves,
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192. the kids end up falling
through the cracks.
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193. So, you think they should've toughed
it out together under the same roof?
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194. Studies prove it, Lennie.
Kids are better off.
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195. Or we might be talking about two
dead bodies instead of one.
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196. Fourteen years on the job,
I never lost a kid.
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197. When you catch up with
the pervert that did this,
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198. I'd like a few
minutes with him.
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199. Take a number.
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200. Now, yesterday, where exactly on
76th Street did you drop her off?
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201. Right in front of the building
where her piano teacher lives.
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202. And you waited till
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anybody else on the street?
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206. No, I really didn't
pay attention.
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207. Well, maybe the other
kids on the bus did.
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208. It was just Jody and me.
She's my last drop-off on Wednesdays.
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209. I do the East Side first, then I
cut across the park to Columbus.
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210. And you didn't see anything unusual,
like maybe a car following you?
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211. No. I went around the block to
Amsterdam, then up to 76th.
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she never showed up.
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214. Well, we have a witness who
saw her enter your building.
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215. Well, I don't know what to tell you.
She wasn't here.
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216. One of your students skips her do-re-mi's,
and you don't call her folks?
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that it happened, I did.
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with her friends, you know.
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happened to her, I would've called.
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your next appointment after Jody?
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Deutsch. All thumbs.
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never misses a lesson.
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226. So the girl waits until the bus leaves,
then heads to the nearest video arcade.
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227. Or any other favorite hangout for
your neighborhood chicken hawks.
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the worse thing that could happen to you
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playing Johnny on the Pony.
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230. Yeah, well, I don't remember things
being so rosy when I was a kid.
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231. Well, when was that, last week?
Come on, let's see if anybody saw her.
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234. No. She wasn't in here.
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236. I got nothing, Lennie.
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237. Yeah. Same
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240. Except those guys.
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241. Hey, that's 75th.
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242. Very good.
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243. Now try reading that sign,
it says "Lunch Special."
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said he came down Columbus,
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to come back up to 76th.
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246. Which means he
had to take 75th.
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247. Hey, that's pretty good.
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248. Mind if we tear you away
from your work for a minute?
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249. Was this street open yesterday?
No.
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250. Broken water main.
The street was flooded all day.
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252. I wonder if that bus driver
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253. I'm not sure, maybe I cut
across on 75th or 73rd.
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256. I don't know, Lennie, I'm pretty
sure the broken main was on 75th.
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257. You know Rey, now that I
think of it, you're right.
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258. Look, I just don't remember.
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259. Oh, I sympathize with
your problem, Charlie.
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260. When I was married, I could
never keep my lies straight.
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261. Why you making such a
big deal out of this?
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262. What difference
what street I took?
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on a little magical mystery tour.
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264. Now, I'm not a fan, but maybe
knee socks make you horny.
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265. That's sick! I raised four kids
of my own, for God's sake.
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266. That's a lot a mouths to feed.
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267. And you chauffeur those little rich darlings
around for what, a puny 20-grand a year?
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268. Is that why you grabbed
her, for the money?
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You grabbed her.
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271. And you had to hit her, only
it was a little too hard...
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272. This is crazy!
No! I didn't do that.
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273. Then lay it out for us, pal.
What happened?
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274. This could cost me my job.
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the corner of 76th on Columbus.
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277. The traffic was bad, she didn't want to sit
on the bus while I went around the block.
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278. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
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279. It's true.
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280. School policy is I drop
them in front of the house,
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281. I wait till they're inside.
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282. If I just did what
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284. You believe him?
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285. I ran his name up and down the system.
Nothing, not even a moving violation.
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286. Well, on that note, I'll give him
some Kleenex and send him home.
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287. Well, he told one lie.
He could be telling others.
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288. I want to hold him until
we check out his story.
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289. Hey, we questioned every animate object
in the neighborhood. Nobody saw her.
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290. Look, he said he dropped the
girl at the corner on Columbus.
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291. There's a bank there.
It's got a cash machine.
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292. And cash machines
have security cameras.
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293. I cued up the tape
to where you wanted,
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294. but there was only one
customer during that period.
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295. It's not your customers
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296. Here you go.
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297. There, that's the bus.
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298. And
there she goes.
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299. Well, that gets
him off the hook.
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300. Wait, wait. Lennie.
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301. A minute after the girl
walks down the street,
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up 76th toward Columbus.
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van cruising the vacant lot.
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304. There's gotta be a
million white vans.
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305. You see the rack on the side of the van?
It's carrying some kind of window.
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306. Yeah. It's a
glazer's truck.
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307. The girl had glass
shards in her hands.
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camera built the Hubble.
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309. You get better optics
on an Instamatic.
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310. Sorry, Richard Avedon
wasn't available.
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311. First off, these are all side
shots, so no license plate.
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312. I got the driver in
profile for one frame.
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caucasian or hispanic.
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314. You even sure it's a he?
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315. No, just a politically
incorrect assumption.
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316. What about the lettering on the
side panel, behind the rack there?
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317. It's blurred because of
distortion from the glass in the window.
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319. I don't know about the glass,
but that window looks pretty expensive.
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320. Can't be too many like it.
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dating from the mid-19th century.
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322. Nice looking piece.
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323. It'd look good
in my living room.
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324. If you could afford the
townhouse that goes with it.
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325. You have a particular one in mind?
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326. There must be nearly a hundred in
Manhattan with this kind of window.
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327. Who fixes these
kind of windows?
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328. Well, any competent
glazer can handle the job.
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the materials authentic.
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330. Take the panes, it's float glass.
Just like the original.
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have the distortion.
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332. Going by the amount of waves, I'd
say this glass was mouth-blown.
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333. Doesn't sound like something
a glazer would keep in stock.
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334. It has to be special ordered.
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335. There's only one local
distributor, in Queens.
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336. Float glass?
Could be.
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business is in restoration.
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338. Yeah. The distributor said you ordered
three sheets of it a couple of weeks ago.
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339. Yeah. That sounds
about right.
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340. Any chance it found its way into
a 19th century arch window?
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341. Uh-huh!
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342. The job went out
a couple of days ago.
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343. Why, you guys thinking about
remodeling the precinct?
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344. We leave the redecorating
to our lieutenant.
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345. Is this one of your trucks?
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me what this is about?
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347. We asked first,
Mr. Sullivan.
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348. Yeah, it's one of my trucks.
So? What gives? Hit-and-run?
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349. The driver might've been a witness
to a crime over on the West Side,
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350. a couple of days ago.
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351. We need to talk to him.
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352. I've got over 30 employees,
and off the top of my head,
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353. I don't know who
handled the job.
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354. Why don't you give me your card?
I'll get back to you.
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certificate from the Gardner Clinic.
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356. Yeah. I've been
sober for over a year.
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357. Well, then you know how important
it is to your self-esteem to do good works,
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358. and helping your local
police certainly counts.
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359. We'd really like
that information now.
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361. Yeah, I read their
brochure between shots.
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362. Carlos, yeah, who did the
re-install on the Poundstone job?
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364. Nick Capetti. He lives in Brooklyn,
but he's on a job right now.
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365. Sure, I was on 76th
Street speccing out a job.
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366. Broken skylight.
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368. Some old bag.
I don't remember her name.
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370. I threw it out.
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told her, "Fix it yourself."
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place in the Village.
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there, it's way past 6:00,
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headed for the Lincoln tunnel.
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378. My mother lives in Newark.
She was expecting me for dinner.
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380. No, just me and my mother.
You guys done interrogating me now?
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381. Hey, there's
no interrogation.
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382. When we interrogate you,
believe me, you'll know it.
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break up at your mom's?
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the late news, and I left.
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for your whereabouts, right?
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387. They gave me a speeding
ticket on the way there.
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388. All right, then?
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389. Mr. Capetti's been in and out
of the state bed-and-breakfast
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390. for the past 20 years.
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391. Attempted rape, burglary,
another attempted rape.
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392. Killing little girls
wouldn't be a stretch.
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393. The youngest victim here's 22.
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394. Last conviction was in '89
for assault on a shopkeeper.
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395. He was muscle for a
protection scam in Corona.
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396. An all-round bad guy.
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397. You confirm that ticket with
the Jersey State Police?
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398. Lt'd take a few days
to put into the system.
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399. If he even got a ticket.
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400. He's got a dead or dying
girl in the back of his van.
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401. Last thing he's gonna do is drive to
Jersey for his mama's cannelloni.
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402. Hey, a guy's gotta eat, right?
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403. Capetti's got history.
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404. He was at the scene, that should be
enough for us to search his van.
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405. Find a judge.
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406. We went through the van
three times, gentlemen.
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407. I just viewed the
material under the scope.
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408. No fibers from
the flannel sheets,
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409. no fibers from the girl's clothes,
not a strand of hair. Nothing.
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410. Capetti's had some
experience with our methods,
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411. and plenty of time to
clean up after himself.
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412. The girl had cuts on her hands.
There must've been blood.
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413. We didn't find any. Best
we came up with is this.
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414. A teaspoon of glass.
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415. Some of it's a general match
with what was found on the girl.
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416. Thanks.
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417. This is Rey.
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418. What time?
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419. All right. Thanks.
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420. Confirmation on
the speeding ticket.
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421. 6:56 p.m. On the Turnpike,
coming from the Lincoln Tunnel.
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422. Son of a bitch. They write him up,
and they don't even turn their heads
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423. a half an inch to see what's
in the back of the van.
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424. I don't get this guy, Lennie.
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425. Hey. Hey, he panicked
when the girl kicked.
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426. New plan, drive out to
Mom's and sort things out.
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427. While he's there, why not just
ditch the body in Jersey?
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428. What? Right in his mom's backyard?
Too easy to connect the dots.
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429. No. Better to dump the body
in Manhattan after dinner.
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430. Capetti put some
thought into this.
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431. I wonder how much he
put into his alibi.
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432. I made meatloaf.
Nicky loves my meatloaf.
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433. You know what I like, Mrs.
Capetti? Meatloaf sandwich.
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434. How about Nick, did he make
himself one for the road?
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435. I don't know.
I went to bed.
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436. About what
time was that?
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437. After the news.
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438. Which one do you like to watch, Mrs.
Capetti?
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439. The Chinese girl on Channel 5
or the old guy on Channel 4?
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440. They all got the same bad news.
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441. Oh, wow! I bet the Giants come
in pretty good on this, huh?
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442. Nicky gave that to
me for Christmas.
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443. To watch the Jets.
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444. What's in here,
Mrs. Capetti?
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445. It's storage.
Just a lot of junk.
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446. Junk made out
of wool? Mothball.
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447. You want to show us what's
in the closet, Mrs. Capetti?
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448. I don't have to.
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449. Well, then you'd better
put on a pot of coffee.
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450. We're gonna call
the Essex County D.A.
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451. And wait for him to come
down here with a warrant.
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452. We'll have to go room by room.
It'll be a hell of a mess.
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453. Rey, flannel pillow
cases, fitted sheet.
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454. The rest of the matching set.
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455. Hey, you!
Hold it!
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456. He's going
around the back!
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457. He's going around the back!
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458. Hey!
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459. Where are you going?
Easy, man!
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460. This ought to bring back
fond memories, Nick.
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461. You're under arrest, you have
the right to remain silent,
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462. anything you do say can and will be
used against you in a court of law.
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463. Why her, Nick?
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464. Just dumb luck, she happened to be in
the right place at the right time?
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465. Maybe you'd seen her before,
you staked her out, right?
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466. A smart guy
like you would do that.
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467. Pay attention, genius, because
now we are interrogating you.
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468. I'm waiting for my lawyer.
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469. Yeah. We're
looking for him.
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470. But I gotta tell you, the only
thing that's gonna help you now
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471. is your cooperation,
some kind of statement
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472. you're sorry for what you
did to that little girl.
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473. It's your only chance
to dodge the needle, Nick.
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474. Yeah, right. You're bubbling over
with concern for my welfare.
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475. We're just saying that if your
intent wasn't to kill her,
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476. that changes things.
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477. You know, last time I checked this was
still the land of the red, white and blue.
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478. I got rights. Now,
get me my lawyer.
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479. Mrs. Gaines.
Am I too late?
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480. No. They haven't brought him in yet.
Now, why don't you have a seat.
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481. My client is on welfare.
How is he expected to meet bail?
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482. That's not my problem.
Bail is set at $50,000.
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483. Next.
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484. "Case number 622395.
People v. Nicholas Capetti.
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485. "Charges are murder in the first degree
and kidnapping in the first degree."
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486. Give me a plea.
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487. Not guilty.
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488. Miss Kincaid, what are the
People looking for on this?
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489. The victim's a 12-year-old girl, Your Honor.
The defendant has a prior...
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490. You bastard!
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491. Call EMS!
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492. Do something!
Do something!
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493. Are you all right?
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494. No. I'm okay. I'm okay.
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495. Are you sure? Yeah, I can't...
I didn't see what happened.
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496. He killed Jody.
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497. Karen, don't say another word.
I called the lawyer.
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498. I'm sorry.
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499. He's right, Mrs.
Gaines, listen to him.
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500. Anything you say now puts
us in an awkward position.
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501. Capetti's DOA.
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502. What're you doing to her?
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503. She's being charged
with murder. I'm sorry.
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504. Curtis, Mirandize her.
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505. Take her out the garage.
Karen Gaines, you're under arrest
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506. for the murder of Nicholas Capetti.
You have the right to remain silent.
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507. You have the
right to an attorney.
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508. Wait for the lawyer, Karen.
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509. If you can't afford an attorney...
That bastard killed Jody!
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510. How in the hell did she get
that gun into the courthouse?
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511. I don't know.
You don't know.
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512. Well, somebody better find out.
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513. Normal-looking people out there
taking the law in their own hands.
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514. With eight million taxpayers
cheering them on.
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515. They're lining up to pat
Karen Gaines on the back.
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516. Right. Well, it doesn't
take much effort
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517. to put yourself in her shoes.
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518. Unfortunately, she's not the
first parent to lose a child.
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519. That can't justify
premeditated murder.
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520. You want to try
her for murder two?
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521. She had the presence of mind
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522. to smuggle a loaded
weapon into a courthouse.
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523. I have 40 witnesses
who saw her shoot Capetti.
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524. I don't see what
the problem is.
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525. The problem is that your jury will
wish that they pulled the trigger.
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526. If we don't come down
hard on Karen Gaines,
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527. somebody else'll get
the idea that it's okay
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528. to turn another courtroom
into the OK Corral.
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529. And if she gets acquitted,
what message does that send?
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530. I'm not taking that chance.
You're talking to her lawyer.
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531. Mrs. Gaines serves a day in prison for this,
that'll be the day I turn in my license.
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532. As soon as the jury gets a
look at Capetti's record,
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533. at the evidence against him,
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534. they'll line up to shake my
client's hand and send her home.
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535. Only if they ignore the
fact she murdered someone.
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536. Only one thing matters here.
Jody Gaines is dead
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537. because the system failed to keep a piece
of crap like Nick Capetti behind bars.
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538. Well, thanks to my client, Mr.
Capetti's crime spree is over for good.
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539. A compelling
argument, Mr. Greer,
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540. but not half as compelling as
the bullet that hit the wall
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541. three inches from
the court reporter's head.
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542. Mr. McCoy...
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543. Karen, please.
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544. All I could think about was the
last minutes of Jody's life.
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545. How terrified she must've been.
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546. If I could undo everything,
believe me, I would.
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547. Man one. She
does six years.
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548. We might go for man two.
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549. One and a third years
in minimum security.
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550. Fine, let's not be reasonable.
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551. We're on the side of
the angels, Mr. McCoy.
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552. You force a trial, and
you're in for a hard ride.
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553. What if she pled to man one, and
we request a sentencing hearing?
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554. We let a judge
decide the sentence.
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555. We'd go along with that.
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556. I'll get back to you.
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557. Karen.
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558. Greer knows we don't want
this in front of a jury.
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559. Neither does he.
I want her to serve time.
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560. Man one carries
mandatory imprisonment.
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561. Right, a big two years.
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562. At a minimum.
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563. But, Jack, don't you think
she's been punished enough?
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564. For God's sake, Claire!
For shooting up a courtroom?
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565. Thanks to her, you had
a near-death experience.
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566. I'm surprised you're
so magnanimous.
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567. Where in the canon of ethics does
it say we can't show a little mercy?
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568. Because Nick Capetti was
a man in need of killing?
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569. It wasn't up to her to
give him what he deserves.
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570. Then why not let a judge
decide what she deserves?
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571. Okay.
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572. Start working on the
sentence recommendation.
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573. Nick was my only son.
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574. He has three sisters.
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575. After my husband died,
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576. he took care of us
as best he could.
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577. And thanks to that Mr.
Sullivan who gave him a job,
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578. Nick was supporting me.
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579. Your son was convicted
of committing violent crimes,
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580. isn't that right?
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581. He wasn't a saint.
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582. I didn't say he was.
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583. And if he had anything to
do with that little girl,
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584. then he should've
paid by the law.
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585. Now, I could live with
that, but not with this.
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586. What gave you the right
to shoot him like a dog?
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587. Mrs. Capetti, please,
address the court.
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588. Her little girl is dead, and
that's a tragedy for her.
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589. But who is she to kill my son?
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590. What if she was wrong?
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591. What if he didn't do it?
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592. It took three years of
trying before we had Jody.
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593. Karen called her our miracle baby.
She was very devoted to her.
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594. At your divorce, isn't it true, the
court awarded you custody of Jody?
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595. Yes. They found Karen
to be an unfit mother.
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596. At the time, she was dealing with
an addiction to pain killers.
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597. She needed time for herself.
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598. She cleaned up to become
a better mother for Jody.
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599. And after her recovery, what
kind of a mother was she?
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600. She was fantastic.
Spent as much time with Jody as she could.
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601. Then when the police called...
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602. If Jody had died in an accident, we
would've found a way to deal with it.
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603. But this...
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604. He took our child.
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605. And what did the police do?
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606. Gave him a speeding ticket with our
Jody maybe still alive in his truck.
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607. Karen had no faith in
the system, Your Honor.
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608. Not a parent in the world
wouldn't have done what she did.
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609. I'm only sorry I didn't have
the guts to do it myself.
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610. I've heard the testimony, I've
read the pre-sentence report
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611. and Mrs. Gaines' statement
expressing remorse,
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612. but manslaughter in the first
degree is a serious offense,
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613. and that's why the statutes
require mandatory imprisonment.
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614. The defendant will rise.
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615. Karen Gaines, it is
the sentence of this court
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616. that you serve a term of imprisonment
of no more than two years.
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617. Furthermore, this
court will recommend
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618. that your sentence be served at a
halfway house in the city of New York,
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619. and that you be allowed to participate
in a work-release program.
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620. Your Honor...
Sit down, Mr. McCoy.
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621. I'm within my discretion.
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622. We're adjourned.
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623. These are the witness statements
connecting Capetti to the van
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624. and the lab reports connecting
the girl to the van.
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625. It would've been a slam dunk.
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626. Any evidence he had help?
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627. No. And no evidence he'd ever even seen
the girl until the day he grabbed her.
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628. And you're absolutely
sure he was the one?
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629. Oh, yeah. I may not agree with
Mrs. Gaines' brand of justice,
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630. but she did not shoot
an innocent bystander.
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631. All right. Close the case and
send McCoy the final report.
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632. It might cheer him up.
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633. From the looks of this, he'll be
the only one gnashing his teeth.
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634. Mrs. Gaines is
getting a lot of ink.
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635. Rey, look at this.
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636. She was treated for pill addiction
a year ago at the Gardner Clinic.
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637. So she went to Gardner.
So did half of Manhattan.
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638. Including Capetti's
boss, Frank Sullivan.
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639. Yes, I remember Karen Gaines,
and I remember Frank Sullivan.
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640. They underwent treatment during the
same four-week period last year.
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641. Did they have much
contact with each other?
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642. Sure. They were in my therapy
group, they shared meals.
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643. During the group sessions, did
they discuss their personal lives?
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644. Of course.
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645. So Frank Sullivan
would've found out
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646. that Mrs. Gaines had a daughter
and a rich ex-husband.
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647. What are you getting at?
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648. Well, we suspect he might be involved
in her daughter's kidnapping.
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649. Whatever he knew
about her circumstances,
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650. didn't have to come
from the group sessions.
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651. The last couple of weeks
that they were here,
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652. they started having an affair.
Something that we actively discourage.
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653. I had a talk with them,
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654. but they seemed pretty
taken with each other.
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655. Look, the doctor was wrong
then, and he's wrong now.
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656. There was nothing between us.
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657. You gotta admit, it's a little strange you
never bothered to tell us you knew her.
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658. Yeah. Well, I didn't
think it mattered.
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659. Believe me, it matters.
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660. How'd it go down, Frank?
Business a little slow?
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661. You get behind
on your payments?
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662. That's nuts.
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663. You guys know Capetti did it.
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664. Hey, the last time Capetti
had an original idea,
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665. he left it swirling in the bowl.
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666. You're the brain
who thought this up.
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667. As far as we're concerned, Mr.
Sullivan, you're good for it.
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668. You think because I had an affair
with her, that makes me a murderer?
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669. This is unbelievable.
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670. Grand juries don't
like coincidences.
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671. Read him his rights.
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672. Come on.
On your feet.
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673. Wait a minute. Wait.
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674. Look, you gotta understand,
this wasn't my idea.
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675. Elvis spoke to you
through your car radio?
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676. It was Karen.
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677. Her ex is putting
her through hell.
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678. Wouldn't let her
see her daughter.
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679. Had her tied up with lawyers.
She asked me to help her, but I told her no,
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680. but she keeps pushing.
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681. So I gave her Nick's number.
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682. Your friendly neighborhood rapist?
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683. No, I swear, we did not
know about the rapes.
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684. All she wanted to do
was teach her ex a lesson
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685. about how it feels not to be
able to see your own kid.
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686. I thought of Karen when
Jody first went missing,
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687. but when they found the
body, I never imagined.
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688. We're not saying she was involved.
We find it hard to believe she's capable of it.
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689. Is it? My God, she shot
a man in cold blood.
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690. Something you wished
you'd done yourself.
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691. As I recall, Mr. Gaines, you vouched
for your ex-wife's good character
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692. in front of a packed courtroom.
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693. I said what her lawyer wanted
me to say, I had no idea.
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694. What makes you think Frank Sullivan
isn't lying just to save his own skin?
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695. No. It makes sense now.
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696. Since the divorce, Karen's been
after me to hurt me anyway she can.
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697. She blames me for her
addiction, for losing Jody,
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698. her toaster doesn't
work, it's my fault.
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699. She thinks I'm out to get her.
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700. According to Sullivan, you were
keeping Jody away from her.
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701. Oh, no. No. That's not true.
That was Jody's idea.
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702. She didn't want to
see Karen anymore.
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703. A couple of months ago, she
was late bringing Jody home.
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704. About 12 hours late.
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705. I was going out of my
mind, calling hospitals.
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706. When she got home, Jody was in tears.
She wouldn't tell me why.
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707. See, for the past year,
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708. Karen's been playing head
games on both of us.
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709. I had to send Jody to
a child psychologist.
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710. I never thought
Karen'd go this far.
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711. Like many kids
in her situation,
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712. Jody was the designated
adult in her family.
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713. Making adult decisions,
like not seeing her mother?
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714. Yes. Jody loved
her very much.
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715. And at one time, Mrs.
Gaines probably even deserved that love.
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716. Mr. Gaines mentioned an incident
that took place two months ago.
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717. Mrs. Gaines took Jody up to Tanglewood.
After, she refused to take her home.
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718. They drove around all night.
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719. Mrs. Gaines was on a tear about
her husband controlling her life,
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720. and how he was turning
Jody against her.
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721. Jody was still shaking
when she saw me.
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722. I'm not surprised her
father got custody of her.
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723. He can dish it out.
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724. A few months ago, Jody was excited
about taking dance lessons
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725. near Mrs. Gaines' work.
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726. Mr. Gaines stopped it,
I think purely out of spite.
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727. Two parents using their
kid to destroy each other.
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728. Wonderful world.
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729. Two bad parents, but only one
of them committed murder.
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730. Whether she killed
Capetti for revenge
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731. or to cover up her own involvement,
jeopardy's attached.
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732. We can't touch her.
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733. We can for her
daughter's murder.
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734. You don't really think she intended
or even thought Jody would be killed.
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735. She hired a felon to toss her
daughter into the back of a van.
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736. That's kidnapping.
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737. The daughter died as a result.
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738. That's felony murder.
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739. Abducting your own child.
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740. It's not a predicate crime.
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741. Well, you'll say kidnapping, her
lawyer'll say "custodial interference."
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742. And motive separates the two.
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743. Frank Sullivan will testify that she
did it to terrorize her husband.
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744. That makes it kidnapping.
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745. Uncorroborated
accomplice testimony.
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746. That and a dollar-twenty-five
gets you on the subway.
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747. Then we'll get corroboration.
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748. I'm sure she told Capetti
what her intentions were,
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749. and maybe he said
something to his mother.
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750. You hope.
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751. Mrs. Capetti, we
know what happened.
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752. There's no sense protecting
your son anymore.
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753. Leave him alone.
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754. What good does it do anyway?
He's dead.
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755. And the woman who killed him will
get away with another murder
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756. unless you help us.
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757. What do you mean?
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758. Your son did tell you that Mrs.
Gaines hired him to kidnap her daughter?
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759. He didn't mean
to kill the girl.
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760. It
was an accident.
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761. He wanted her to be quiet.
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762. I know.
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763. Did he tell you why she
wanted her kidnapped?
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764. Jack, she doesn't know...
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765. Listen to me.
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766. The more you can tell
us about her involvement,
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767. the better chance we have
of putting her in jail.
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768. Jack.
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769. If your son said anything
at all about her, please,
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770. tell me.
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771. After the girl was hurt,
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772. he said he called Mrs.
Gaines to tell her that the girl was in trouble,
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773. and he wanted to take
her to the hospital.
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774. The lady told him no.
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775. The lady told him they would all
go to jail if anyone found out.
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776. Nick was scared.
He did what she said.
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777. Nick didn't want the girl to die.
It tore him up.
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778. She told him not to go to the hospital.
It's depraved indifference.
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779. Murder two.
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780. It'll be perjury, Jack.
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781. Mrs. Capetti had no idea Karen Gaines
was involved until we told her.
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782. We can't confirm or deny her testimony.
I'm happy to take it at face value.
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783. You practically put
the words in her mouth.
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784. Now, Karen Gaines killed her son,
she has every reason to lie.
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785. And she's very good at it.
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786. I'm sure it's not the first time
she's had to lie for her son.
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787. I can't believe
I'm hearing this.
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788. Claire, I want two things,
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789. justice for the dead and
respect from the living.
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790. Mrs. Gaines has to
answer for what she did.
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791. At any cost? You're talking
about suborning perjury.
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792. Just between you and
me and the lamp post,
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793. I have no intention of putting Mrs.
Capetti on the stand.
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794. All I want to do is survive
a motion to dismiss.
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795. As it is, unless we put the
fear of God into Karen Gaines,
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796. she's gonna walk.
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797. Have Curtis and
Briscoe pick her up.
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798. The People's latest murder charge rests
solely on the testimony of Mrs. Capetti.
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799. It's double hearsay, Your Honor,
and therefore, inadmissible.
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800. I admire your stamina, Mr.
McCoy, but let me get this, straight.
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801. You want Mrs. Capetti to tell
us what her son told her
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802. the defendant told him?
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803. I'd rather Nick Capetti
told us himself,
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804. but the defendant made him unavailable
by shooting him in the back.
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805. Even if he was here, his testimony
would still be hearsay.
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806. Statements against penal
interest, exception to hearsay.
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807. Even though Mrs. Gaines
knew her daughter was dying,
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808. she told Mr. Capetti
not to seek medical help.
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809. According to
Mrs. Capetti,
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810. and there's not a shred of
evidence to support her statement.
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811. Can we even prove
the call was made?
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812. I don't have to.
I have a pile of evidence on my desk
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813. to show that the defendant set in motion
a reckless and callous chain of events.
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814. Letting her daughter die was
just the final depraved act.
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815. Now, I've
heard enough.
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816. I'm gonna let a jury decide if Mrs.
Capetti is telling the truth.
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817. The hearsay exception applies.
Her statements are admissible.
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818. Motion to
dismiss is denied.
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819. My client is prepared to plead to
custodial interference. Period.
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820. An E Felony?
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821. I hurt myself more shaving.
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822. You're swinging without
a net on murder two.
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823. You think your star witness, Mrs.
Capetti, will hold up on cross?
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824. When the jury hears
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825. how your client paid a convicted
rapist to kidnap her own daughter,
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826. they'll believe her
capable of anything.
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827. He never called me.
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828. How can you think for a minute
that I would let my own child die?
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829. What kind of a mother
do you think I am?
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830. You don't know
what I did for her.
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831. For 10 years, I stayed
in a nightmare marriage
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832. just so she could
have a real home.
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833. I fought for custody for her, but
he had more money, more lawyers.
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834. He turned me into an addict
and then used it against me!
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835. That bastard, he stole
her away from me.
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836. He told her lies about me.
He made her afraid of me.
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837. I loved her.
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838. But you hated
your husband more.
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839. I never meant any
of this to happen.
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840. At most, her conduct was reckless.
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841. Man two. Tack on another year to
the time she's already serving.
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842. Man one. She does six years.
And not one day of it in a halfway house.
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843. Sorry.
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844. It never ends. Mr. Gaines is suing
his ex-wife for wrongful death.
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845. What does he want from her?
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846. The dollar an hour she gets
folding prison laundry?
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847. It's hard to believe
those two were ever in love.
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848. Passionately, I'd say.
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849. Where do you think
all the hate comes from?
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