1. In the criminal justice system
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separate yet equally important groups,
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3. the police who investigate crime
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4. and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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5. These are their stories.
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6. Thirty-four metal, twelve glass.
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7. Thirty-four metal, twelve glass.
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8. Thirty-five metal, twelve glass.
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9. Thirty-five metal, twelve glass.
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10. Thirty-five-and-a-half
metal, twelve glass.
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11. Thirty-five-and-a-half
metal, twelve...
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12. Oh, my God.
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13. Oh, my God.
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14. Come on, Dorothy, click
your heels and wake up.
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15. Come on. Come...
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16. Oh, my God! Help her! Help!
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17. What do you mean, "How's it
going?" It's only been a month.
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18. Come on, Lennie.
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19. He's okay.
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20. What? For a kid?
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21. I've got ties older than him
and some shoes, too, I think.
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22. I'd like it if you two
really became partners.
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23. Well, I'd like it if both my ex-wives
got new partners. No more alimony.
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24. And I'd like at least a token
effort at the chain of command.
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25. Is that all?
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26. That's all. I'll see
you in the morning.
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27. Yes, I'll tell him. Go to bed now,
okay? I'll see you in the morning.
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28. I love you.
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29. My daughter says good night.
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30. Right back at her.
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31. She's funny.
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32. She feels bad because you don't
have anyone to tuck you in at night.
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33. Oh, yeah? Now, let me
guess where she got that idea.
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35. Right, because my particulars
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36. are the hot topic of
conversation at your dinner table.
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37. Lennie, you're my partner.
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38. My wife worries about who's
watching my back, that's all.
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39. Briscoe.
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40. Yeah.
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41. Got it. We're up.
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42. You know, it's a
funny thing Rey,
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43. while your wife worries about
your back, I worry about mine.
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44. One of our recycling kings
found her about a half hour ago.
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45. He was looking for soda cans, lifted
up the plywood, and there she was.
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46. Any ID? No.
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47. I got a team looking
for a schoolbag or purse.
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48. Dietrich, what's the story?
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49. Time of death, 6 to 10
hours. Unknown cause.
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50. We got a hematoma on
the right side of her head,
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51. and abrasions on the
palms of her hands.
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52. Oh, man. What is she, 12, 14?
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53. Somewhere in there.
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54. Take a Polaroid, show it around,
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55. maybe somebody knows
her from the neighborhood.
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56. Not this neighborhood.
This blazer's from Paul Stuart.
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57. Kid's a long way from home.
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58. What's that smell?
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59. It's mothballs from this
sheet she was wrapped in.
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60. All right. Bag her hands and roll her.
And tell whoever's working the day shift
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61. I want this girl to be the
first cut in the morning.
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62. Poor kid, from Paul
Stuart blazers to this.
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63. Yeah. Not exactly what
her folks had in mind.
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64. Come on, let's see if we
can scare up a witness.
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65. I told you, I wasn't
looking outside.
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66. I was trying to get
my baby to sleep.
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67. She's teething. Yeah. I'm sorry.
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68. Look, I've been
there. Take my card.
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69. If you remember anything,
give me a call, okay?
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70. Yeah, and who do I call to make a
complaint about waking up my baby?
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71. Bunch of cigar-store Indians
down there. No see 'em, no talk 'em.
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72. Sorry.
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73. Wooden Indians are your
culture, Lennie, not my wife's.
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74. Sorry to wake you, sir. I'm Detective
Curtis. This is Detective Briscoe.
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75. If it's about that body
they found, I can't help you.
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76. I was in bed watching TV.
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77. Least till the
cavalry showed up.
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78. You mind if I get
myself a glass of water?
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79. I've been huffing up
these stairs all night.
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80. Make yourself at home.
Water's in the kitchen.
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81. Uh-huh!
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82. Now what do you
do for a living, Mr...
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83. Krutsky.
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84. Alan Krutsky. I'm retired
from the postal service.
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85. Disability, on
account of my feet.
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86. Look, I wanna get
back to my breakfast.
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87. Oh, be my guest.
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88. So, you stay home
most of the time, huh?
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89. That's right, minding
my own business.
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90. Right. And sitting in this chair
and watching the world go by, huh?
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91. It's a pretty nice
roost. Better than TV.
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92. So did you happen to catch the play-by-play
action in the vacant lot last night?
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93. Bums and drug addicts,
I don't wanna mess with.
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94. Can you leave now?
I like eating in private.
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95. Come on, Mr. Krutsky,
a little girl got killed.
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96. You were a public servant once.
You wanna help us out here?
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97. All I saw was a couple of
crackheads doing their thing.
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98. They cleared out about 10:00.
That's when I went to bed.
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100. Well, there was this van.
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101. It came by two or three
times, just before 10:00.
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102. I thought maybe they
were looking for drugs.
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103. What kind of van? A white van.
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104. I couldn't make out a
license plate. Okay?
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105. Goodbye now.
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106. Off the bat, I don't see
any signs of sexual trauma.
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107. I guess killing her
was traumatic enough.
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108. Brain hemorrhage in
the right temporal lobe.
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109. Judging by the rate of seepage,
death was within 20 minutes of the injury.
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110. That being the bump on
the right side of her head.
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111. Mmm-hmm.
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112. Hematoma's about
the size of an adult fist,
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113. but she didn't go
down without a fight.
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114. There were bruises on her upper
arms, probably from being pinned down.
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115. And she had bruises
on her knuckles.
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116. So she got in a few
punches. Good for her.
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117. Dietrich saw
abrasions on her hands.
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118. I found glass shards embedded
in her palms and in her hair,
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119. and that's it, gents,
quick and dirty.
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120. Anything else you want to see?
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121. They ran her through
Missing Persons. Nothing yet.
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122. I'm not worried. Girl
in a Paul Stuart blazer,
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123. somebody's bound
to report her missing.
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124. What about the doer,
he leave a calling card?
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125. Well, the rape kit's negative.
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126. Forensics has the girl's
clothes and the sheet,
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127. and there was a white
van reported in the area.
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128. What about the sheet?
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129. The label's from
a mail-order place.
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130. Rey?
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131. The sheet?
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132. Oh!
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133. Blue and white queen
flannel top sheet, part of a set.
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134. The company stopped
carrying it about four years ago.
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135. They don't have any records.
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136. Maybe we can match up the MO.
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137. Go back a year, attempted abductions,
reports of children being approached.
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138. Lot of overtime.
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139. Lucky you.
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140. Start with attempts on
girls matching our Jane Doe.
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141. These kinkos
tend to favor a type.
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142. Detective Briscoe,
there's a call.
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143. Thanks.
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144. Detective, close the door.
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145. This thousand-yard stare...
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146. Anything behind it I
should be concerned about?
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147. No. No. It's just this kid.
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148. I see her lying on the slab, and I can't
help thinking it could be one of my...
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149. But it isn't. Look, if you're
going to bug out over every vic,
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150. I can't use you.
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151. Best therapy? Clear the case.
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152. Missing Persons got a hit.
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153. Jody Gaines, 12,
domiciled at 450 East 88th.
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154. Father reported her
missing last night.
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155. Yes, that's her.
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156. What happens now?
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157. Well, there's some
forms to fill out.
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158. Then we'd like to talk to you.
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159. We'll also want
to talk to your wife.
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160. My ex-wife.
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161. She doesn't know. I wanted to
wait until I was certain it was Jody.
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163. Yeah. In the hallway.
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164. She can meet us
down at the precinct.
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165. On Wednesdays, Jody takes
piano lessons after school,
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167. The school bus drops her off.
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a car service for her.
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171. I tried to protect my daughter.
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172. Then when I got home
at 7:00, she wasn't there.
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173. She was supposed
to go to your place?
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174. She lives with me. The
court gave me custody.
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175. Anyway, I called her music teacher. He
said she never showed up for her lesson.
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176. I called the school.
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177. The vice-principal said she
remembered seeing Jody get on the bus.
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178. Mrs. Gaines, could she have skipped
her piano lesson and gone to visit you?
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179. No, she knows I work late.
I'm a buyer for Bloomingdale's.
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180. Anyway, she wouldn't miss her
lesson. She loved to play piano. She...
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181. Did she ever mention that someone
was watching her or following her?
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182. No.
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184. I warned my daughter about the
kinds of people that are out there.
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185. Who else knew
about her schedule?
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186. My housekeeper.
Mr. Behrens, piano teacher.
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187. And the people at her school.
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188. They have to be asking
themselves the question.
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189. What question is that?
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190. Well, if the family was still
together, maybe the girl'd be alive.
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191. How do you figure?
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192. Come on, divorced parents are so
busy making a new life for themselves,
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through the cracks.
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194. So, you think they should've toughed
it out together under the same roof?
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195. Studies prove it, Lennie.
Kids are better off.
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196. Or we might be talking about
two dead bodies instead of one.
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197. Fourteen years on the
job, I never lost a kid.
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198. When you catch up with
the pervert that did this,
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199. I'd like a few minutes with him.
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200. Take a number.
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201. Now, yesterday, where exactly
on 76th Street did you drop her off?
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202. Right in front of the building
where her piano teacher lives.
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till she went inside?
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else on the street?
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207. No, I really didn't
pay attention.
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kids on the bus did.
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209. It was just Jody and me. She's
my last drop-off on Wednesdays.
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210. I do the East Side first, then I
cut across the park to Columbus.
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211. And you didn't see anything unusual,
like maybe a car following you?
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212. No. I went around the block
to Amsterdam, then up to 76th.
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never showed up.
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215. Well, we have a witness who
saw her enter your building.
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216. Well, I don't know what to
tell you. She wasn't here.
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do-re-mi's, and you don't call her folks?
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218. Well, the first time
that it happened, I did.
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with her friends, you know.
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second and third times?
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as horrified as you are,
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happened to her, I would've called.
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your next appointment after Jody?
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Deutsch. All thumbs.
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never misses a lesson.
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227. So the girl waits until the bus leaves,
then heads to the nearest video arcade.
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228. Or any other favorite hangout for
your neighborhood chicken hawks.
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the worse thing that could happen to you
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playing Johnny on the Pony.
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231. Yeah, well, I don't remember
things being so rosy when I was a kid.
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232. Well, when was that, last week?
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238. Yeah. Same story here.
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it says "Lunch Special."
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said he came down Columbus,
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to come back up to 76th.
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247. Which means he had to take 75th.
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248. Hey, that's pretty good.
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249. Mind if we tear you away
from your work for a minute?
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250. Was this street open yesterday?
- No.
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251. Broken water main. The
street was flooded all day.
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remembers swimming down the street.
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254. I'm not sure, maybe I
cut across on 75th or 73rd.
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256. Then I took 75th.
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257. I don't know, Lennie, I'm pretty
sure the broken main was on 75th.
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I think of it, you're right.
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your problem, Charlie.
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261. When I was married, I could
never keep my lies straight.
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a big deal out of this?
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263. What difference
what street I took?
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Jody on a little magical mystery tour.
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265. Now, I'm not a fan, but maybe
knee socks make you horny.
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266. That's sick! I raised four kids
of my own, for God's sake.
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268. And you chauffeur
those little rich darlings
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puny 20-grand a year?
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270. Is that why you grabbed
her, for the money?
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only it was a little too hard...
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274. This is crazy!
No! I didn't do that.
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pal. What happened?
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276. This could cost me my job.
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277. For openers.
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278. Okay, look, I dropped her off on
the corner of 76th on Columbus.
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279. The traffic was bad, she didn't want to sit
on the bus while I went around the block.
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280. Wait a minute. Wait a
minute. That's your story?
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281. It's true.
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282. School policy is I drop
them in front of the house,
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283. I wait till they're inside.
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284. If I just did what I
was supposed to...
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285. He's taking it pretty hard.
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286. You believe him?
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287. I ran his name up and down the system.
Nothing, not even a moving violation.
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288. Well, on that note, I'll give him
some Kleenex and send him home.
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289. Well, he told one lie.
He could be telling others.
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290. I want to hold him until
we check out his story.
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291. Hey, we questioned every animate
object in the neighborhood. Nobody saw her.
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292. Look, he said he dropped the
girl at the corner on Columbus.
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293. There's a bank there.
It's got a cash machine.
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294. And cash machines
have security cameras.
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295. I cued up the tape
to where you wanted,
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296. but there was only one
customer during that period.
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297. It's not your customers
we're interested in.
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298. Here you go.
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299. There, that's the bus.
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300. And there she goes.
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301. Well, that gets
him off the hook.
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302. Wait, wait. Lennie.
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303. A minute after the girl
walks down the street,
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up 76th toward Columbus.
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white van cruising the vacant lot.
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306. There's gotta be a
million white vans.
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307. You see the rack on the side of the
van? It's carrying some kind of window.
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308. Yeah. It's a glazer's truck.
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309. The girl had glass
shards in her hands.
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camera built the Hubble.
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311. You get better optics
on an Instamatic.
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312. Sorry, Richard Avedon
wasn't available.
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313. First off, these are all side
shots, so no license plate.
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314. I got the driver in
profile for one frame.
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caucasian or hispanic.
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317. No, just a politically
incorrect assumption.
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318. What about the lettering on the
side panel, behind the rack there?
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319. It's blurred because of distortion
from the glass in the window.
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321. I don't know about the glass, but
that window looks pretty expensive.
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322. Can't be too many like it.
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dating from the mid-19th century.
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324. Nice looking piece.
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325. It'd look good in
my living room.
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326. If you could afford the
townhouse that goes with it.
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327. You have a
particular one in mind?
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328. There must be nearly a hundred in
Manhattan with this kind of window.
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329. Who fixes these kind of windows?
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330. Well, any competent
glazer can handle the job.
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331. The trick is keeping
the materials authentic.
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332. Take the panes, it's float
glass. Just like the original.
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have the distortion.
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334. Going by the amount of waves,
I'd say this glass was mouth-blown.
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335. Doesn't sound like something
a glazer would keep in stock.
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337. There's only one local
distributor, in Queens.
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338. Float glass? Could be.
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business is in restoration.
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340. Yeah. The distributor said you ordered
three sheets of it a couple of weeks ago.
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341. Yeah. That sounds about right.
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into a 19th century arch window?
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343. Uh-huh!
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344. The job went out a
couple of days ago.
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345. Why, you guys thinking
about remodeling the precinct?
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346. We leave the redecorating
to our lieutenant.
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347. Is this one of your trucks?
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me what this is about?
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349. We asked first, Mr. Sullivan.
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350. Yeah, it's one of my trucks.
So? What gives? Hit-and-run?
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351. The driver might've been a witness
to a crime over on the West Side,
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353. We need to talk to him.
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354. I've got over 30 employees,
and off the top of my head,
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355. I don't know who
handled the job.
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356. Why don't you give me
your card? I'll get back to you.
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certificate from the Gardner Clinic.
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358. Yeah. I've been
sober for over a year.
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359. Well, then you
know how important
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360. it is to your self-esteem
to do good works,
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361. and helping your local
police certainly counts.
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362. We'd really like
that information now.
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364. Yeah, I read their
brochure between shots.
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365. Carlos, yeah, who did the
re-install on the Poundstone job?
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Brooklyn, but he's on a job right now.
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368. Sure, I was on 76th
Street speccing out a job.
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371. Some old bag. I don't
remember her name.
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down, though, right?
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373. I threw it out.
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so I told her, "Fix it yourself."
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place in the Village.
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there, it's way past 6:00,
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headed for the Lincoln tunnel.
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route back to Brooklyn?
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381. My mother lives in Newark.
She was expecting me for dinner.
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383. No, just me and my mother. You
guys done interrogating me now?
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384. Hey, there's no interrogation.
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believe me, you'll know it.
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break up at your mom's?
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the late news, and I left.
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for your whereabouts, right?
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ticket on the way there.
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391. All right, then?
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392. Mr. Capetti's been in and out
of the state bed-and-breakfast
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393. for the past 20 years.
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394. Attempted rape, burglary,
another attempted rape.
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395. Killing little girls
wouldn't be a stretch.
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396. The youngest victim here's 22.
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397. Last conviction was in '89
for assault on a shopkeeper.
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398. He was muscle for a
protection scam in Corona.
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399. An all-round bad guy.
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400. You confirm that ticket
with the Jersey State Police?
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401. It'd take a few days
to put into the system.
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402. If he even got a ticket.
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403. He's got a dead or dying
girl in the back of his van.
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404. Last thing he's gonna do is drive
to Jersey for his mama's cannelloni.
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405. Hey, a guy's gotta eat, right?
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406. Capetti's got history.
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407. He was at the scene, that should
be enough for us to search his van.
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408. Find a judge.
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409. We went through the van
three times, gentlemen.
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410. I just viewed the
material under the scope.
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411. No fibers from
the flannel sheets,
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412. no fibers from the girl's clothes,
not a strand of hair. Nothing.
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413. Capetti's had some
experience with our methods,
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414. and plenty of time to
clean up after himself.
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415. The girl had cuts on her hands.
There must've been blood.
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416. We didn't find any. Best
we came up with is this.
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417. A teaspoon of glass.
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418. Some of it's a general match
with what was found on the girl.
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419. Thanks.
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420. This is Rey.
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421. What time?
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422. All right. Thanks.
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423. Confirmation on
the speeding ticket.
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424. 6:56 p.m. on the Turnpike,
coming from the Lincoln Tunnel.
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425. Son of a bitch. They write him up,
and they don't even turn their heads
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426. a half an inch to see
what's in the back of the van.
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427. I don't get this guy, Lennie.
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428. Hey. Hey, he panicked
when the girl kicked.
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429. New plan, drive out to
Mom's and sort things out.
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430. While he's there, why not
just ditch the body in Jersey?
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431. What? Right in his mom's backyard?
Too easy to connect the dots.
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432. No. Better to dump the body
in Manhattan after dinner.
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433. Capetti put some
thought into this.
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434. I wonder how much
he put into his alibi.
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435. I made meatloaf.
Nicky loves my meatloaf.
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436. You know what I like, Mrs.
Capetti? Meatloaf sandwich.
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437. How about Nick, did he
make himself one for the road?
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438. I don't know. I went to bed.
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439. About what time was that?
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440. After the news.
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441. Which one do you like
to watch, Mrs. Capetti?
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442. The Chinese girl on Channel
5 or the old guy on Channel 4?
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443. They all got the same bad news.
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444. Oh, wow! I bet the Giants
come in pretty good on this, huh?
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445. Nicky gave that to
me for Christmas.
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446. To watch the Jets.
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447. What's in here, Mrs. Capetti?
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448. It's storage.
Just a lot of junk.
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449. Junk made out of wool? Mothball.
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450. You want to show us what's
in the closet, Mrs. Capetti?
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451. I don't have to.
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452. Well, then you'd better
put on a pot of coffee.
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453. We're gonna call the
Essex County D.A.
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454. and wait for him to come
down here with a warrant.
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455. We'll have to go room by
room. It'll be a hell of a mess.
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456. Rey, flannel pillow
cases, fitted sheet.
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457. The rest of the matching set.
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458. Hey, you! Hold it!
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459. He's going around the back!
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460. He's going around the back!
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461. Hey!
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462. Where are you going? Easy, man!
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463. This ought to bring back
fond memories, Nick.
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464. You're under arrest, you
have the right to remain silent,
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465. anything you do say can and will
be used against you in a court of law.
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466. Why her, Nick?
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467. Just dumb luck, she happened to
be in the right place at the right time?
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468. Maybe you'd seen her before,
you staked her out, right?
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469. A smart guy like
you would do that.
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470. Pay attention, genius, because
now we are interrogating you.
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471. I'm waiting for my lawyer.
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472. Yeah. We're looking for him.
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473. But I gotta tell you, the only
thing that's gonna help you now
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474. is your cooperation,
some kind of statement
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475. you're sorry for what
you did to that little girl.
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476. It's your only chance to
dodge the needle, Nick.
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477. Yeah, right. You're bubbling
over with concern for my welfare.
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478. We're just saying that if
your intent wasn't to kill her,
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479. that changes things.
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480. You know, last time I checked this was
still the land of the red, white and blue.
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481. I got rights. Now,
get me my lawyer.
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482. Mrs. Gaines. Am I too late?
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483. No. They haven't brought him in
yet. Now, why don't you have a seat.
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484. My client is on welfare. How
is he expected to meet bail?
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485. That's not my problem.
Bail is set at $50,000.
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486. Next.
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487. "Case number 622395.
People v. Nicholas Capetti.
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488. "Charges are murder in the first
degree and kidnapping in the first degree."
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489. Give me a plea.
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490. Not guilty.
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491. Miss Kincaid, what are the
People looking for on this?
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492. The victim's a 12-year-old girl, Your
Honor. The defendant has a prior...
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493. You bastard!
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494. Call EMS!
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495. Do Something! Do something!
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496. Are you all right?
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497. No. I'm okay. I'm okay.
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498. Are you sure? Yeah, I can't...
I didn't see what happened.
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499. He killed Jody.
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500. Karen, don't say another
word. I called the lawyer.
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501. I'm sorry.
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502. He's right, Mrs.
Gaines, listen to him.
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503. Anything you say now puts
us in an awkward position.
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504. Capetti's DOA.
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505. What're you doing to her?
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506. She's being charged
with murder. I'm sorry.
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507. Curtis, Mirandize her.
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508. Take her out the garage.
Karen Gaines, you're under arrest
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509. for the murder of Nicholas Capetti.
You have the right to remain silent.
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510. You have the
right to an attorney.
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511. Wait for the lawyer, Karen.
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512. If you can't afford an attorney...
That bastard killed Jody!
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513. How in the hell did she get
that gun into the courthouse?
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514. I don't know. You don't know.
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515. Well, somebody better find out.
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516. Normal-looking people out there
taking the law in their own hands.
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517. With eight million
taxpayers cheering them on.
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518. They're lining up to pat
Karen Gaines on the back.
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519. Right. Well, it doesn't
take much effort
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520. to put yourself in her shoes.
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521. Unfortunately, she's not
the first parent to lose a child.
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522. That can't justify
premeditated murder.
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523. You want to try
her for murder two?
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524. She had the presence of mind
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525. to smuggle a loaded
weapon into a courthouse.
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526. I have 40 witnesses who
saw her shoot Capetti.
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527. I don't see what the problem is.
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528. The problem is that your jury will
wish that they pulled the trigger.
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529. If we don't come down
hard on Karen Gaines,
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530. somebody else'll get
the idea that it's okay
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531. to turn another courtroom
into the OK Corral.
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532. And if she gets acquitted,
what message does that send?
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533. I'm not taking that chance.
You're talking to her lawyer.
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534. Mrs. Gaines serves
a day in prison for this,
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535. that'll be the day I
turn in my license.
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536. As soon as the jury gets
a look at Capetti's record,
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537. at the evidence against him,
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538. they'll line up to shake my
client's hand and send her home.
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539. Only if they ignore the
fact she murdered someone.
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540. Only one thing matters
here. Jody Gaines is dead
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541. because the system failed to keep a piece
of crap like Nick Capetti behind bars.
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542. Well, thanks to my client, Mr. Capetti's
crime spree is over for good.
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543. A compelling
argument, Mr. Greer,
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544. but not half as compelling
as the bullet that hit the wall
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545. three inches from the
court reporter's head.
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546. Mr. McCoy...
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547. Karen, please.
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548. All I could think about was
the last minutes of Jody's life.
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549. How terrified she must've been.
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550. If I could undo everything,
believe me, I would.
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551. Man one. She does six years.
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552. We might go for man two.
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553. One and a third years
in minimum security.
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554. Fine, let's not be reasonable.
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555. We're on the side of
the angels, Mr. McCoy.
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556. You force a trial, and
you're in for a hard ride.
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557. What if she pled to man one, and
we request a sentencing hearing?
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558. We let a judge
decide the sentence.
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559. We'd go along with that.
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560. I'll get back to you.
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561. Karen.
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562. Greer knows we don't
want this in front of a jury.
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563. Neither does he. I
want her to serve time.
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564. Man one carries
mandatory imprisonment.
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565. Right, a big two years.
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566. At a minimum.
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567. But, Jack, don't you think
she's been punished enough?
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568. For God's sake, Claire!
For shooting up a courtroom?
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569. Thanks to her, you had
a near-death experience.
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570. I'm surprised you're
so magnanimous.
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571. Where in the canon of ethics does
it say we can't show a little mercy?
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572. Because Nick Capetti was
a man in need of killing?
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573. It wasn't up to her to
give him what he deserves.
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574. Then why not let a judge
decide what she deserves?
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575. Okay.
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576. Start working on the
sentence recommendation.
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577. Nick was my only son.
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578. He has three sisters.
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579. After my husband died,
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580. he took care of us
as best he could.
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581. And thanks to that
Mr. Sullivan who gave him a job,
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582. Nick was supporting me.
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583. Your son was convicted of
committing violent crimes,
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584. isn't that right?
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585. He wasn't a saint.
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586. I didn't say he was.
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587. And if he had anything
to do with that little girl,
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588. then he should've
paid by the law.
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589. Now, I could live with
that, but not with this.
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590. What gave you the right
to shoot him like a dog?
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591. Mrs. Capetti, please,
address the court.
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592. Her little girl is dead, and
that's a tragedy for her.
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593. But who is she to kill my son?
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594. What if she was wrong?
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595. What if he didn't do it?
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596. It took three years of
trying before we had Jody.
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597. Karen called her our miracle
baby. She was very devoted to her.
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598. At your divorce, isn't it true, the
court awarded you custody of Jody?
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599. Yes. They found Karen
to be an unfit mother.
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600. At the time, she was dealing
with an addiction to pain killers.
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601. She needed time for herself.
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602. She cleaned up to become
a better mother for Jody.
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603. And after her recovery, what
kind of a mother was she?
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604. She was fantastic. Spent as
much time with Jody as she could.
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605. Then when the police called...
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606. If Jody had died in an accident, we
would've found a way to deal with it.
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607. But this...
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608. He took our child.
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609. And what did the police do?
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610. Gave him a speeding ticket with
our Jody maybe still alive in his truck.
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611. Karen had no faith in
the system, Your Honor.
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612. Not a parent in the world
wouldn't have done what she did.
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613. I'm only sorry I didn't have
the guts to do it myself.
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614. I've heard the testimony, I've
read the pre-sentence report
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615. and Mrs. Gaines' statement
expressing remorse,
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616. but manslaughter in the first
degree is a serious offense,
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617. and that's why the statutes
require mandatory imprisonment.
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618. The defendant will rise.
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619. Karen Gaines, it is the
sentence of this court
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620. that you serve a term of
imprisonment of no more than two years.
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621. Furthermore, this
court will recommend
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622. that your sentence be served at a
halfway house in the city of New York,
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623. and that you be allowed to
participate in a work-release program.
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624. Your Honor... Sit
down, Mr. McCoy.
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625. I'm within my discretion.
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626. We're adjourned.
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627. These are the witness statements
connecting Capetti to the van
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628. and the lab reports
connecting the girl to the van.
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629. It would've been a slam dunk.
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630. Any evidence he had help?
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631. No. And no evidence he'd ever even
seen the girl until the day he grabbed her.
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632. And you're absolutely
sure he was the one?
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633. Oh, yeah. I may not agree with
Mrs. Gaines' brand of justice,
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634. but she did not shoot
an innocent bystander.
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635. All right. Close the case and
send McCoy the final report.
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636. It might cheer him up.
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637. From the looks of this, he'll be
the only one gnashing his teeth.
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638. Mrs. Gaines is
getting a lot of ink.
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639. Rey, look at this.
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640. She was treated for pill addiction
a year ago at the Gardner Clinic.
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641. So she went to Gardner.
So did half of Manhattan.
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642. Including Capetti's
boss, Frank Sullivan.
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643. Yes, I remember Karen Gaines,
and I remember Frank Sullivan.
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644. They underwent treatment during
the same four-week period last year.
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645. Did they have much
contact with each other?
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646. Sure. They were in my therapy
group, they shared meals.
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647. During the group sessions, did
they discuss their personal lives?
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648. Of course.
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649. So Frank Sullivan
would've found out
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650. that Mrs. Gaines had a
daughter and a rich ex-husband.
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651. What are you getting at?
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652. Well, we suspect he might be
involved in her daughter's kidnapping.
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653. Whatever he knew
about her circumstances,
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654. didn't have to come
from the group sessions.
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655. The last couple of
weeks that they were here,
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656. they started having an affair.
Something that we actively discourage.
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657. I had a talk with them,
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658. but they seemed pretty
taken with each other.
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659. Look, the doctor was wrong
then, and he's wrong now.
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660. There was nothing between us.
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661. You gotta admit, it's a little strange you
never bothered to tell us you knew her.
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662. Yeah. Well, I didn't
think it mattered.
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663. Believe me, it matters.
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664. How'd it go down, Frank?
Business a little slow?
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665. You get behind on your payments?
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666. That's nuts.
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667. You guys know Capetti did it.
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668. Hey, the last time Capetti
had an original idea,
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669. he left it swirling in the bowl.
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670. You're the brain
who thought this up.
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671. As far as we're concerned,
Mr. Sullivan, you're good for it.
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672. You think because I had an affair
with her, that makes me a murderer?
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673. This is unbelievable.
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674. Grand juries don't
like coincidences.
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675. Read him his rights.
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676. Come on. On your feet.
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677. Wait a minute. Wait.
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678. Look, you gotta understand,
this wasn't my idea.
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679. Elvis spoke to you
through your car radio?
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680. It was Karen.
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681. Her ex is putting
her through hell.
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682. Wouldn't let her
see her daughter.
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683. Had her tied up with lawyers. She
asked me to help her, but I told her no,
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684. but she keeps pushing.
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685. So I gave her Nick's number.
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686. Your friendly
neighborhood rapist?
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687. No, I swear, we did not
know about the rapes.
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688. All she wanted to do
was teach her ex a lesson
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689. about how it feels not to
be able to see your own kid.
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690. I thought of Karen when
Jody first went missing,
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691. but when they found the
body, I never imagined.
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692. We're not saying she was involved. We find
it hard to believe she's capable of it.
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693. Is it? My God, she
shot a man in cold blood.
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694. Something you wished
you'd done yourself.
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695. As I recall, Mr. Gaines, you vouched
for your ex-wife's good character
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696. in front of a packed courtroom.
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697. I said what her lawyer wanted
me to say, I had no idea.
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698. What makes you think Frank Sullivan
isn't lying just to save his own skin?
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699. No. It makes sense now.
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700. Since the divorce, Karen's been
after me to hurt me anyway she can.
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701. She blames me for her
addiction, for losing Jody,
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702. her toaster doesn't
work, it's my fault.
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703. She thinks I'm out to get her.
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704. According to Sullivan, you
were keeping Jody away from her.
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705. Oh, no. No. That's not
true. That was Jody's idea.
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706. She didn't want to
see Karen anymore.
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707. A couple of months ago, she
was late bringing Jody home.
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708. About 12 hours late.
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709. I was going out of my
mind, calling hospitals.
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710. When she got home, Jody was
in tears. She wouldn't tell me why.
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711. See, for the past year,
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712. Karen's been playing
head games on both of us.
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713. I had to send Jody
to a child psychologist.
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714. I never thought
Karen'd go this far.
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715. Like many kids in her situation,
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716. Jody was the designated
adult in her family.
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717. Making adult decisions,
like not seeing her mother?
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718. Yes. Jody loved her very much.
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719. And at one time, Mrs. Gaines
probably even deserved that love.
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720. Mr. Gaines mentioned an incident
that took place two months ago.
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721. Mrs. Gaines took Jody up to Tanglewood.
After, she refused to take her home.
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722. They drove around all night.
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723. Mrs. Gaines was on a tear about
her husband controlling her life,
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724. and how he was
turning Jody against her.
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725. Jody was still shaking
when she saw me.
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726. I'm not surprised her
father got custody of her.
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727. He can dish it out.
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728. A few months ago, Jody was
excited about taking dance lessons
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729. near Mrs. Gaines' work.
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730. Mr. Gaines stopped it, I
think purely out of spite.
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731. Two parents using their
kid to destroy each other.
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732. Wonderful world.
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733. Two bad parents, but only
one of them committed murder.
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734. Whether she killed
Capetti for revenge
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735. or to cover up her own
involvement, jeopardy's attached.
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736. We can't touch her.
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737. We can for her
daughter's murder.
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738. You don't really think she intended
or even thought Jody would be killed.
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739. She hired a felon to toss her
daughter into the back of a van.
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740. That's kidnapping.
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741. The daughter died as a result.
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742. That's felony murder.
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743. Abducting your own child.
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744. It's not a predicate crime.
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745. Well, you'll say kidnapping, her
lawyer'll say "custodial interference."
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746. And motive separates the two.
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747. Frank Sullivan will testify that
she did it to terrorize her husband.
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748. That makes it kidnapping.
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749. Uncorroborated
accomplice testimony.
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750. That and a dollar-twenty-five
gets you on the subway.
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751. Then we'll get corroboration.
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752. I'm sure she told Capetti
what her intentions were,
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753. and maybe he said
something to his mother.
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754. You hope.
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755. Mrs. Capetti, we
know what happened.
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756. There's no sense
protecting your son anymore.
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757. Leave him alone.
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758. What good does it
do anyway? He's dead.
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759. And the woman who killed him
will get away with another murder
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760. unless you help us.
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761. What do you mean?
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762. Your son did tell you that Mrs. Gaines
hired him to kidnap her daughter?
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763. He didn't mean to kill the girl.
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764. It was an accident.
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765. He wanted her to be quiet.
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766. I know.
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767. Did he tell you why she
wanted her kidnapped?
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768. Jack, she doesn't know...
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769. Listen to me.
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770. The more you can tell
us about her involvement,
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771. the better chance we
have of putting her in jail.
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772. Jack.
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773. If your son said anything
at all about her, please,
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774. tell me.
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775. After the girl was hurt,
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776. he said he called Mrs. Gaines to
tell her that the girl was in trouble,
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777. and he wanted to
take her to the hospital.
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778. The lady told him no.
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779. The lady told him they would
all go to jail if anyone found out.
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780. Nick was scared.
He did what she said.
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781. Nick didn't want the
girl to die. It tore him up.
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782. She told him not to go to the
hospital. It's depraved indifference.
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783. Murder two.
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784. It'll be perjury, Jack.
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785. Mrs. Capetti had no idea Karen
Gaines was involved until we told her.
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786. We can't confirm or deny her testimony.
I'm happy to take it at face value.
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787. You practically put
the words in her mouth.
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788. Now, Karen Gaines killed her
son, she has every reason to lie.
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789. And she's very good at it.
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790. I'm sure it's not the first time
she's had to lie for her son.
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791. I can't believe
I'm hearing this.
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792. Claire, I want two things,
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793. justice for the dead and
respect from the living.
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794. Mrs. Gaines has to
answer for what she did.
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795. At any cost? You're talking
about suborning perjury.
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796. Just between you and
me and the lamp post,
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797. I have no intention of putting
Mrs. Capetti on the stand.
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798. All I want to do is survive
a motion to dismiss.
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799. As it is, unless we put the
fear of God into Karen Gaines,
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800. she's gonna walk.
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801. Have Curtis and
Briscoe pick her up.
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802. The People's latest murder charge rests
solely on the testimony of Mrs. Capetti.
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803. It's double hearsay, Your
Honor, and therefore, inadmissible.
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804. I admire your stamina, Mr. McCoy,
but let me get this, straight.
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805. You want Mrs. Capetti to
tell us what her son told her
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806. the defendant told him?
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807. I'd rather Nick
Capetti told us himself,
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808. but the defendant made him
unavailable by shooting him in the back.
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809. Even if he was here, his
testimony would still be hearsay.
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810. Statements against penal
interest, exception to hearsay.
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811. Even though Mrs. Gaines
knew her daughter was dying,
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812. she told Mr. Capetti
not to seek medical help.
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813. According to Mrs. Capetti,
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814. and there's not a shred of
evidence to support her statement.
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815. Can we even prove
the call was made?
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816. I don't have to. I have a
pile of evidence on my desk
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817. to show that the defendant set in motion
a reckless and callous chain of events.
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818. Letting her daughter die
was just the final depraved act.
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819. Now, I've heard enough.
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820. I'm gonna let a jury decide if
Mrs. Capetti is telling the truth.
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821. The hearsay exception applies.
Her statements are admissible.
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822. Motion to dismiss is denied.
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823. My client is prepared to plead
to custodial interference. Period.
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824. An E Felony?
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825. I hurt myself more shaving.
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826. You're swinging without
a net on murder two.
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827. You think your star witness,
Mrs. Capetti, will hold up on cross?
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828. When the jury hears
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829. how your client paid a convicted
rapist to kidnap her own daughter,
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830. they'll believe her
capable of anything.
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831. He never called me.
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832. How can you think for a minute
that I would let my own child die?
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833. What kind of a mother
do you think I am?
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834. You don't know
what I did for her.
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835. For 10 years, I stayed
in a nightmare marriage
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836. just so she could
have a real home.
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837. I fought for custody for her, but
he had more money, more lawyers.
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838. He turned me into an addict
and then used it against me!
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839. That bastard, he stole
her away from me.
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840. He told her lies about me.
He made her afraid of me.
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841. I loved her.
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842. But you hated your husband more.
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843. I never meant any
of this to happen.
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844. At most, her
conduct was reckless.
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845. Man two. Tack on another year
to the time she's already serving.
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846. Man one. She does six years. And
not one day of it in a halfway house.
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847. Sorry.
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848. It never ends. Mr. Gaines is
suing his ex-wife for wrongful death.
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849. What does he want from her?
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850. The dollar an hour she
gets folding prison laundry?
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851. It's hard to believe those
two were ever in love.
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852. Passionately, I'd say.
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853. Where do you think all
the hate comes from?
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