1. In the criminal
justice system...Copy !req
2. the people are represented by two
separate yet equally important groups:Copy !req
3. the police who
investigate crime...Copy !req
4. and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.Copy !req
5. These are their stories.Copy !req
6. Okay. We're getting close. Okay?Copy !req
7. Okay, folks. 30 seconds to air.Copy !req
8. Yeah. That's good.Copy !req
9. Okay, Allan.Copy !req
10. Okay, camera coming through.Copy !req
11. Here we go. Let's do this.Copy !req
12. How does it look,
Bonnie? Looks great, Rick.Copy !req
13. Control your hair,
control your life. Rick?Copy !req
14. Barry, can you
hear me out there?Copy !req
15. Yeah, lock up the
street. I'm coming out.Copy !req
16. You got it, Rick. Chucky,
frame me up. Signal?Copy !req
17. Signal good to the towers.Copy !req
18. All right, standby.Copy !req
19. Joey, be a guy.Copy !req
20. Plug me in and keep me hot.Copy !req
21. Clean and mean, Rick.Copy !req
22. Today, live from the
streets of New York...Copy !req
23. Okay, it's bingo
time. Coming in 10.Copy !req
24. Three camera's ready.Copy !req
25. Show me hard. Light me up.Copy !req
26. Okay, we're going to roll...Copy !req
27. coming up to air
in five, four, three...Copy !req
28. Rick Mason's Final Confession.Copy !req
29. I'm Rick Mason.Copy !req
30. Today as always, live on
location on Final Confession...Copy !req
31. the first exclusive interview
with Dr. Joseph Vinton...Copy !req
32. child molester...Copy !req
33. and one of his
victims, Scott Fisher.Copy !req
34. Let's go meet them.Copy !req
35. Four years ago, Dr. Joseph
Vinton, a therapist...Copy !req
36. recognized for his treatment
of disturbed children...Copy !req
37. took Scott Fisher...Copy !req
38. then 11 years old,
to this restaurant.Copy !req
39. Now, Dr. Vinton
sat here with Scott...Copy !req
40. he bought him ice cream...Copy !req
41. and he convinced Scott not to say anything
about the abuse that he'd committed...Copy !req
42. moments earlier at his
Greenwich Village office.Copy !req
43. But eventually, Scott
did tell his mother...Copy !req
44. and Dr. Vinton went to prison.Copy !req
45. Dr. Vinton.Copy !req
46. It must be strange for you
coming back to this place.Copy !req
47. I'm not concerned about
myself. I'm here to help others.Copy !req
48. I've committed unspeakable crimes,
and while I've served my time in jail...Copy !req
49. I know it's not enough.Copy !req
50. Eighteen months for the
abuse of seven children.Copy !req
51. Sounds like a cruise.Copy !req
52. Is that justice?Copy !req
53. I don't know what justice is.Copy !req
54. I know what I did was
awful. I hurt people.Copy !req
55. I can't ever live it down.Copy !req
56. Not in 18 months,
or in 18 years.Copy !req
57. Now, you wrote a book in
prison about your experiences.Copy !req
58. Who would you think would want to
read it? Certainly not my audience!Copy !req
59. I didn't face what I'd
done until I was in prison.Copy !req
60. The book is part of my recovery.
Part of the reason I'm free today...Copy !req
61. to say...Copy !req
62. I'm sorry.Copy !req
63. To say he's sorry
to two of his victims...Copy !req
64. Scott Fisher, and
his mother Sarah.Copy !req
65. Now, Scott...Copy !req
66. this man took you into his
care and he abused you.Copy !req
67. He's willing to
acknowledge that.Copy !req
68. But if I were you...Copy !req
69. I think I would still
be a little angry.Copy !req
70. I am, but...Copy !req
71. I'm hoping to...Copy !req
72. make a start...Copy !req
73. at getting it together.Copy !req
74. This is terrible! Take us to
commercial. Commercial!Copy !req
75. I was on air, I didn't
see the father come in.Copy !req
76. You knew who he was? I
wanted him on the show.Copy !req
77. The wife says he's
there, she's not.Copy !req
78. Who dreams he's going to
show up and shoot Vinton?Copy !req
79. Vinton gonna make it?Copy !req
80. Died in surgery. Oh, no.Copy !req
81. Mr. Mason?Copy !req
82. Top of the show. If
this doesn't do it...Copy !req
83. four million witnesses.Copy !req
84. Did the father know the psychiatrist
was going to be here today?Copy !req
85. No way.Copy !req
86. We're on location every week.Copy !req
87. We never announce
where we're going to be.Copy !req
88. That's what I do.Copy !req
89. My guests are in a
hotel two days before air.Copy !req
90. Even the crew doesn't know who's
gonna be on till just the last minute.Copy !req
91. I could have been shot myself.Copy !req
92. Look, if there's nothing else...Copy !req
93. can I take care of my staff?Copy !req
94. Let me give you my card. You
remember anything else give me a call.Copy !req
95. Why did he do it? Because
he's crazy, that's why.Copy !req
96. You thought your husband
was capable of violence?Copy !req
97. It's my fault. He blames me
for what happened to Scotty.Copy !req
98. He blames me for everything.Copy !req
99. I don't talk to my husband. I
haven't seen him in three years.Copy !req
100. So, you didn't expect
him here today?Copy !req
101. Well, he attacked
Vinton at his trial.Copy !req
102. He got thrown out of the Army.Copy !req
103. Why do you think I divorced him?Copy !req
104. Is my dad going to be okay?Copy !req
105. The wound's not serious.Copy !req
106. Officer O'Brien is going
to take you home, all right?Copy !req
107. Where is that security
director Talbott?Copy !req
108. I sent him back to the
precinct. We'll get his statement.Copy !req
109. What? He's an
ex-cop. He did his job.Copy !req
110. You want to book him
for shooting the father?Copy !req
111. If you don't mind,
I've got a question.Copy !req
112. How'd the father know
to come here today?Copy !req
113. Come on, Mike, break it up,
move along. Nothing to see here.Copy !req
114. Secret location, lots of security.
How did Fisher get here?Copy !req
115. He shot the guy
who molested his kid.Copy !req
116. I don't care if an
avenging angel sent him.Copy !req
117. I might've done the
same thing if it was my kid.Copy !req
118. Oh, I guess, case closed.Copy !req
119. That's what Van Buren will say.Copy !req
120. How did the father get there?Copy !req
121. Who cares?Copy !req
122. In Narcotics, we didn't care
when scum dealers got shot...Copy !req
123. we did want to find
out who shot them.Copy !req
124. We have the killer in an
operating room at Bellevue.Copy !req
125. Just tell me how
Fisher got there.Copy !req
126. We drop it and he
does his 25 years.Copy !req
127. What did the wife say?
He was in the Army...Copy !req
128. in the Rangers in Vietnam?Copy !req
129. Those guys can track
a leopard in the rain...Copy !req
130. so, maybe he stalked the shrink.Copy !req
131. A shrink child molester.Copy !req
132. I wonder what's
next on his show...Copy !req
133. family dog gets a sex change?Copy !req
134. Or girl gives
birth to a baby pig.Copy !req
135. My mother likes those shows,
along with the rest of America.Copy !req
136. What do you want to do?Copy !req
137. Hey, we already have
four open homicides.Copy !req
138. Now, wait a minute. If he stalked him,
he could have hit him in an alleyway...Copy !req
139. he could have hit
him driving a car.Copy !req
140. He picks today when four
million people are watching...Copy !req
141. in a place he's not even
supposed to know about?Copy !req
142. I'm just saying
let's give it a day.Copy !req
143. If nothing happens,
the case closes itself.Copy !req
144. Talbott, Mason's
head of security...Copy !req
145. the one who shot the father,
we've got him upstairs. So?Copy !req
146. Bring him down.Copy !req
147. I don't know how he got
there. At least I zipped him.Copy !req
148. God knows who he
would have shot next.Copy !req
149. You'd think someone would
have noticed him at the restaurant.Copy !req
150. They were rounding up
audience off the street.Copy !req
151. I wish I'd seen him
sooner, but, hey...Copy !req
152. it was a crowd.Copy !req
153. You'd already met the father?Copy !req
154. Saw his picture in a file.Copy !req
155. Hey, hold on...Copy !req
156. Twenty years in the 31, I know the drill.
Now, am I here to give a statement or what?Copy !req
157. Easy, Barry.
Nobody's blaming you.Copy !req
158. But the wife said her
husband was a wacko.Copy !req
159. You weren't worried?Copy !req
160. I never talked to
the guy myself...Copy !req
161. Yeah, I knew he
was a nut, but a gun?Copy !req
162. You're sure Mrs. Fisher didn't
know where the show was?Copy !req
163. Unless she reads minds.Copy !req
164. She don't find out
until we drive her there.Copy !req
165. Do me a favor, use the desk.
Finish typing up this statement.Copy !req
166. Nice guy. Oh, sure.Copy !req
167. Retired cop.Copy !req
168. What?Copy !req
169. He knows Fisher was in the
Army, has a history of violence.Copy !req
170. What? He's surprised the
guy shows up with a gun?Copy !req
171. Well, I thought you said
we had four open homicides.Copy !req
172. The bodies are frozen.
They're not going to thaw out.Copy !req
173. Okay, let's call the D.A.Copy !req
174. Maybe we get in to see Pop Fisher.
He sure as hell knows how he got there.Copy !req
175. Yeah, he's in post-op, sedated. They
won't put him in his room till the morning.Copy !req
176. I followed the son
of a bitch. I shot him.Copy !req
177. Where did you
follow Vinton from?Copy !req
178. You're going to prison.Copy !req
179. If you help us, maybe
the D.A. will help you.Copy !req
180. Sid. The D.A. says if you
cooperate... You're a lawyer, right?Copy !req
181. Listen up, no jury puts
me in jail for what I did.Copy !req
182. Sid, you listen. It's a
question of for how long.Copy !req
183. Like Vinton.Copy !req
184. Country club, 18 months.
He deserved to die.Copy !req
185. All right, look, we can do this the easy
way, or we can do this the hard way.Copy !req
186. I didn't talk to Mason,
Talbott, any of his people.Copy !req
187. But you know the name
of the head of his security.Copy !req
188. Hell, yeah, I know his name.
He put a hole in my shoulder.Copy !req
189. Sid, this isn't
getting anywhere.Copy !req
190. I shot an animal. Call the vet.Copy !req
191. If I'd known this would happen,
obviously we wouldn't have gone on TV.Copy !req
192. Well, after what
you'd been through...Copy !req
193. some people would wonder
why you went on TV at all.Copy !req
194. I thought we could help others. I
thought it would be good for Scotty.Copy !req
195. We'd have an
ending, a resolution.Copy !req
196. Scotty, ahem, let me ask you...Copy !req
197. did you want your father there?Copy !req
198. He's not in touch with Sid.
The court arranges everything.Copy !req
199. But, it must have been painful
seeing Vinton again, huh?Copy !req
200. Well, after three
years, it was okay.Copy !req
201. You knew your dad was angry?Copy !req
202. Dad's angry about
what happened to me.Copy !req
203. He has a right to be.Copy !req
204. Scotty.Copy !req
205. So, Dr. Vinton is dead.Copy !req
206. Scotty, I want to talk
to the detectives alone.Copy !req
207. You see how upset he is?
We're victims of this, too.Copy !req
208. My husband's temper destroyed my
son and my marriage. I didn't tell him.Copy !req
209. I didn't know where
we were going.Copy !req
210. He can't remember
how he found Vinton.Copy !req
211. Must be trauma from the wound.Copy !req
212. Had to be his wife.
She got to him.Copy !req
213. Mrs. Fisher's lying? Come
on, she hates her husband.Copy !req
214. She doesn't have to
like him to wind him up.Copy !req
215. Yeah, but she
wouldn't want him there.Copy !req
216. She'd be afraid he'd shoot her.Copy !req
217. "The killing of Dr. Vinton comes
at the start of the television period...Copy !req
218. "known as sweeps. Ratings of Rick Mason's
Final Confession are expected to rise...Copy !req
219. 30% in the top 25 markets."Copy !req
220. Oh, Mason did
it for the ratings.Copy !req
221. He's a saint, and his show caters to
the highest instincts of human nature.Copy !req
222. Look at him, he's scum.Copy !req
223. So, change the channel.Copy !req
224. Are you listening to yourself?
First Pop, then Mom, now Mason.Copy !req
225. It's an Oliver Stone movie.Copy !req
226. All right, nobody planned it.Copy !req
227. It still doesn't answer my question.
How did Fisher know where to go?Copy !req
228. That security chief, Talbott?Copy !req
229. He had the mother and
son in a hotel for two days.Copy !req
230. Fifth floor. Adjoining suites.Copy !req
231. Mrs. Fisher and the
boy. Very private.Copy !req
232. So, if we called we
couldn't get through.Copy !req
233. Discretion is our middle name.Copy !req
234. No, Mr. Mason's guests and
Mr. Talbott weren't even on the computer.Copy !req
235. Here we go.Copy !req
236. The Fishers, no phone
calls. Talbott, local only.Copy !req
237. All to the same
number. Mason's office.Copy !req
238. Was Mr. Mason
here Tuesday night?Copy !req
239. He came in about 5:00.Copy !req
240. I took him up myself
in the service elevator.Copy !req
241. Mr. M. hates the lobby.
Samsonite tourists.Copy !req
242. He left about 7:00.Copy !req
243. Are there any pay phones
upstairs? On the residential floors?Copy !req
244. If they use pay phones,
we lose our surcharge.Copy !req
245. Anywhere other than the lobby?Copy !req
246. Yeah, there's one on the
mezzanine, third floor. Very private.Copy !req
247. Okay, thanks. Hey.Copy !req
248. 9:53 p.m.Copy !req
249. A phone call from the mezzanine.Copy !req
250. To 526 East 91st Street.Copy !req
251. Sid Fisher's place.Copy !req
252. I guess the bellboy
made the call.Copy !req
253. Mason left at 7:00.Copy !req
254. Talbott was still there.Copy !req
255. Somebody has good instincts.Copy !req
256. Which one of you said Mr. Talbott
should learn to lie better?Copy !req
257. Both of us.Copy !req
258. He said 20 years on the force?Copy !req
259. Sixteen. Never made
sergeant, tried three times.Copy !req
260. I.A. investigation said
payoffs from dealers.Copy !req
261. They never made
the case. He resigned.Copy !req
262. Even a hero needs
a pension, Barry.Copy !req
263. This is what you
wanted to talk about?Copy !req
264. How much is your pension?Copy !req
265. You don't have one.Copy !req
266. You didn't do 20 years.
Your career was over in 16.Copy !req
267. We're having a problem
with your statement.Copy !req
268. You see, Barry, you said
you never talked to Sid Fisher.Copy !req
269. You said Mrs. Fisher and her son
were under your full-time surveillance.Copy !req
270. Trouble is, somebody called
Mr. Fisher the night before the broadcast.Copy !req
271. From a pay phone at the hotel.Copy !req
272. Now either you called,
or you know who did.Copy !req
273. One last shot at the
Sergeant's Exam. Check the box.Copy !req
274. Is accessory to murder
an A or a B felony?Copy !req
275. I lost my pencil.Copy !req
276. The call was made, Barry.Copy !req
277. You were a cop, work your
own testimony, see where it leads.Copy !req
278. I got four kids.Copy !req
279. I needed the job.Copy !req
280. I didn't call Fisher. I didn't tell
Mrs. Fisher where the show was.Copy !req
281. The night before...Copy !req
282. Rick's on the phone at the hotel.
He's on the phone with his lawyer.Copy !req
283. I'm worried.Copy !req
284. We know Fisher is wired, he
slugged the shrink at the trial.Copy !req
285. I heard he pistol-whipped
some kid in the Army.Copy !req
286. I hear Rick say to the lawyer:Copy !req
287. "We talked about this.
What do you want me to do?Copy !req
288. "Cancel the show?Copy !req
289. If it happens, just tell me
what kind of trouble I'm in."Copy !req
290. I figured I'd better
clean my gun.Copy !req
291. Take a breath, Detective.
This is completely absurd.Copy !req
292. What am I hearing? That
you're investigating my client?Copy !req
293. On the word of a crooked ex-cop?Copy !req
294. Who was crooked when you
hired him. And when I fired him.Copy !req
295. Did he tell you that?
Day after the show.Copy !req
296. Barry Talbott was hired to
protect my client's guests.Copy !req
297. I told Barry, heads-up...Copy !req
298. Fisher could track his wife. Why do
you think I wanted Fisher on the show?Copy !req
299. We get him there, we could've
made sure he didn't have a gun.Copy !req
300. The day it happened, you
were surprised he owned a gun.Copy !req
301. The idea that my
client is responsible...Copy !req
302. Your client? Check your shorts.Copy !req
303. Mr. Talbott tells us that Mr. Mason
called you before the shooting.Copy !req
304. Says you knew about
the mystery guest.Copy !req
305. One, no such conversation.Copy !req
306. Two, this imaginary
conversation took place?Copy !req
307. Privileged. Three, if
Talbott overheard it...Copy !req
308. privilege extends to him as an employee
of my client. Close your notebook.Copy !req
309. The interview is over.Copy !req
310. She denied talking to him?Copy !req
311. Oh, but you should have
seen the look on her face.Copy !req
312. This is one scared lady.Copy !req
313. The D.A. says it's not enough.
Dirty ex-cop? Not a great witness.Copy !req
314. Look, we know Mason set this up.Copy !req
315. He wanted the guy shot, he
somehow got the father there.Copy !req
316. Mason, all these guys, they'll
do anything for higher ratings.Copy !req
317. So, that's what's going down.Copy !req
318. Somebody gets killed, these
guys break out the champagne.Copy !req
319. We can't prove that. We don't know
who called the father from the hotel.Copy !req
320. Fisher's wife. Mason
called her. Or he told the kid.Copy !req
321. That makes no sense. Sarah
Fisher protecting Mason?Copy !req
322. If she knew he set it
up, why won't she tell us?Copy !req
323. Who knows why this
lady does anything?Copy !req
324. Why'd she bring her kid
on TV in the first place?Copy !req
325. "Hello, America, here's my
molested son, watch him suffer."Copy !req
326. We have shrinks on the
payroll. Give them a call.Copy !req
327. You're asking me to explain the
behavior of a woman I've never met.Copy !req
328. Look, we need an
idea, someplace to start.Copy !req
329. I usually try and avoid
making diagnoses over lunch.Copy !req
330. Okay, this is speculation. What
did Mason do for Sarah Fisher?Copy !req
331. He gave her an obituary.Copy !req
332. She wanted Vinton dead? I don't
think so. He molested her son.Copy !req
333. And in a way she was molested,
too. She goes on TV, she gets support.Copy !req
334. She even gets applause.
She doesn't want Vinton dead...Copy !req
335. she wants to do Oprah
and Donahue with him.Copy !req
336. That's her way of
getting through it.Copy !req
337. Then she wouldn't have
helped her husband kill Vinton.Copy !req
338. No, but her son might.Copy !req
339. That makes more sense.
Mason tells the kid...Copy !req
340. the kid phones his father.Copy !req
341. She's not protecting Mason.
She's protecting her son.Copy !req
342. You're making it
worse by being here.Copy !req
343. Your husband
didn't do this alone.Copy !req
344. Mason picked you
and Scott for a reason.Copy !req
345. I watched his shows. I
guess I should have realized...Copy !req
346. I really can't
tell you anything.Copy !req
347. You knew what your
husband was planning...Copy !req
348. and you called him. That makes you a
coconspirator and you could be indicted.Copy !req
349. Mom, don't... Scotty!
I don't know anything.Copy !req
350. Mason went to the hotel and
he told you to call your husband.Copy !req
351. Did he tell you it would
make a better show?Copy !req
352. Did he offer you money? Did he tell you
your husband was going to shoot Vinton?Copy !req
353. Unless, of course,
he talked to you, Scott.Copy !req
354. Scotty, I don't think you
should be here right now.Copy !req
355. Mom, you don't have to...Copy !req
356. It doesn't matter who
Mr. Mason talked to...Copy !req
357. it's too late now.Copy !req
358. Neither of us should
have been alone with him.Copy !req
359. We shouldn't be alone with you.Copy !req
360. Olivet's right. She's
not giving up her son.Copy !req
361. Mason's gonna get away with this. Do
you think the D.A.'s gonna touch this?Copy !req
362. Nah, guys like
Mason don't go to jail.Copy !req
363. They go to country
clubs and they get awards.Copy !req
364. Yeah, what did Sarah Fisher say?Copy !req
365. She watched his shows,
so she should have known.Copy !req
366. So? So, do you
watch his show? I don't.Copy !req
367. Maybe we should. Maybe the guy's
got some bad habits we don't know about.Copy !req
368. Yeah, that'll get us an arrest.Copy !req
369. It might get us something
that will convinceCopy !req
370. the D.A. that this
guy set up a murder.Copy !req
371. I never watch the competition.Copy !req
372. Hey, this isn't a
press conference.Copy !req
373. Mason's a major
player in this industry.Copy !req
374. Mr. Hudson, we're interested
in opinions, not resumes.Copy !req
375. And this is a
murder investigation.Copy !req
376. Well, which opinion would you
like? Mason's Nielsens were down?Copy !req
377. Read it in Variety. Which comes
first? His conviction or his Emmy?Copy !req
378. Well, what are you, new? Nobody
in the business was surprised.Copy !req
379. You see that woman in Florida?Copy !req
380. Husband shoots her at
their daughter's grave.Copy !req
381. Same day network news.Copy !req
382. I'd sell my poodle
for that kind of hype.Copy !req
383. And shooting a child
molester is even better.Copy !req
384. Cable operators are asking...Copy !req
385. the State of Nevada to
televise executions pay-per-view.Copy !req
386. Snuff for you?Copy !req
387. Smell blood yet? Television
101, no jeopardy, no viewers.Copy !req
388. No viewers, no sponsors.
No sponsors... No money.Copy !req
389. Oh, no, marquee. The
marquee, his name over the title.Copy !req
390. Without a show, Mason's
nothing but letterhead.Copy !req
391. I know a girl, Debby
Corrio. Sweet kid.Copy !req
392. She used to work for him.
She'll take you backstage.Copy !req
393. Why does everyone
think I was fired? I quit.Copy !req
394. Better job? Better life.Copy !req
395. I couldn't take another minute.Copy !req
396. What's on 4:30?
Final Confession.Copy !req
397. 5:00, last rites.Copy !req
398. Nobody ever got shot on
his show. It was coming.Copy !req
399. You know the Pulisi trial?Copy !req
400. He had one of the jurors on. Four
days later, the man disappeared.Copy !req
401. Hey, a mob-trial juror goes
on TV? He's asking for it.Copy !req
402. You should have seen Mason
trying to convince him he'd be safe.Copy !req
403. Eight months ago we
were doing this spot.Copy !req
404. I found a diva, 19, has
an act in The Village.Copy !req
405. I say, "Rick Mason wants
you to sing on his show."Copy !req
406. So, she's in heaven.Copy !req
407. No, he's at Bergdorf's
picking out a little black dress.Copy !req
408. He's wearing a dress. So?Copy !req
409. You want to see why I quit?Copy !req
410. I'll get you the tape.Copy !req
411. I don't care if he's a
bully. It's not admissible.Copy !req
412. We're not talking admissibility.Copy !req
413. It's motive. They're trying to give
you a reason to make the case.Copy !req
414. Watch this.Copy !req
415. Sophie, Georgette and Mary.Copy !req
416. Boys who sing like girls.Copy !req
417. Tonight, live on
Final Confession.Copy !req
418. Stay with us. Don't go
away, we'll be right back.Copy !req
419. We go to commercial.Copy !req
420. Mary? Is this what
you really want to do?Copy !req
421. I just wanted to
sing, Mr. Mason.Copy !req
422. But it's not you, Mary. Don't
you want to be yourself tonight?Copy !req
423. I don't know...Copy !req
424. They love you. Show
them who you really are.Copy !req
425. They want you to be happy.
They told me. They're both here?Copy !req
426. Yeah, atta girl. All right,
head's up. We're coming back.Copy !req
427. In five, four, three...Copy !req
428. Tonight, live on
Final Confession.Copy !req
429. Mary is really Tommy Turner...Copy !req
430. and tonight...Copy !req
431. she tells the two people
that love her the most.Copy !req
432. Howard? Elaine? Would
you come out, please?Copy !req
433. Do you recognize
this young lady?Copy !req
434. Dad...Copy !req
435. Tommy?Copy !req
436. Oh, my God.Copy !req
437. Oh, no...Copy !req
438. The father walked out of
the show and had a coronary.Copy !req
439. The kid felt so guilty, a
week later he killed himself.Copy !req
440. Mason destroys people.Copy !req
441. It doesn't prove anything.
Claire, it proves who he is.Copy !req
442. We can't make this work,
all we got left is rubber hoses.Copy !req
443. You can hit him harder.Copy !req
444. You can't be serious.Copy !req
445. You don't think we
should go after him?Copy !req
446. What he does may be
sleazy, but it's not criminal.Copy !req
447. If he arranged a murder, it is.Copy !req
448. You can't believe that Mason
knew Fisher was coming with a gun.Copy !req
449. Miss Kincaid, he wanted
to get the man there.Copy !req
450. Expected a fistfight,
got a homicide.Copy !req
451. If intent to cause injury
causes death, it's man one.Copy !req
452. At the least, it's facilitation.Copy !req
453. How do we prove facilitation?Copy !req
454. You're not suggesting we offer the
father a deal for his son's testimony?Copy !req
455. Why not? He gets man one anyway.Copy !req
456. And no jury convicts
on murder two.Copy !req
457. Half the country wants to
name him Father of the Year.Copy !req
458. You know what Mason'll do.Copy !req
459. Call himself a journalist and wrap
himself in the First Amendment.Copy !req
460. Well, let him wrap himself in the
American flag. He's not Tom Brokaw.Copy !req
461. By the way, Adam, the father
fired his lawyer. He's going pro se.Copy !req
462. Jerk.Copy !req
463. So, I figure we offer him a
deal, he doesn't want to take it...Copy !req
464. we say we're adding
his son to the charge.Copy !req
465. It's not the father
we're after, it's Mason.Copy !req
466. We're not going to
indict the kid to get him.Copy !req
467. No, but the father
doesn't know that.Copy !req
468. Let's hope.Copy !req
469. My son had
nothing to do with it.Copy !req
470. Well, we think that your
wife will testify otherwise.Copy !req
471. Not against my son.Copy !req
472. Mr. Fisher...Copy !req
473. if your son did help
you get to Dr. Vinton...Copy !req
474. he's an accessory.Copy !req
475. He will go to Spofford.Copy !req
476. I shot a man on principle.Copy !req
477. You torment my
son in front of me...Copy !req
478. You have no principles.
And you speak for the State.Copy !req
479. We'll see you in court.Copy !req
480. We'll provide you with
help for your defense.Copy !req
481. If you leave my son alone, I'll
tell you what you want to know.Copy !req
482. The offer is manslaughter in
the first degree, you do 8-to-25...Copy !req
483. if you tell the truth and if your
testimony is useful. That is the deal.Copy !req
484. The deal is my son never
appears in court, for any reason.Copy !req
485. Agreed?Copy !req
486. I can promise that
he won't be indicted.Copy !req
487. I cannot promise you that
he won't appear as witness.Copy !req
488. You don't need him as a witness.Copy !req
489. Mason called a couple
of weeks before the show.Copy !req
490. Said Sarah was
dragging Scotty on.Copy !req
491. Humiliate him.Copy !req
492. Vinton sells a million books, laughs
till he cries. What am I going to do?Copy !req
493. He told me it was at Waverly. I
went and shot the son of a bitch.Copy !req
494. That's a lie, sir.Copy !req
495. I told you the deal depends
on you telling the truth.Copy !req
496. I cannot let you commit perjury.Copy !req
497. I am not dragging Scotty through
anything else, do you hear me?Copy !req
498. My boy had to
testify against Vinton.Copy !req
499. He never appears in court
again the rest of his life.Copy !req
500. I didn't get any calls, I
didn't talk to anybody.Copy !req
501. We can't use him. He'll lie.Copy !req
502. He probably did talk to Mason.Copy !req
503. Well, that's not the whole
truth and we both know it.Copy !req
504. He laid it all on Mason to keep it
away from his son, and Mason's smart.Copy !req
505. He used the son to incite the father, makes
facilitation that much harder to prove.Copy !req
506. Plus, he could figure
that the Fishers wouldCopy !req
507. never want the kid
back in the limelight.Copy !req
508. But without him,
there's no case.Copy !req
509. This family...Copy !req
510. They haven't been in the same
room together in three years.Copy !req
511. Mrs. Fisher, we believe that you and
your son conspired with your husband.Copy !req
512. Scott talked to your
husband before the shooting.Copy !req
513. We're certain you knew it and if we have
to, we'll charge you both as accessories.Copy !req
514. So, Scott, help your dad.Copy !req
515. Tell the truth and he
gets out of prison sooner.Copy !req
516. Scotty. I'm done
controlling myself.Copy !req
517. Dad said it's okay
to feel that way.Copy !req
518. Mr. Mason told me
where it was going to be.Copy !req
519. I called my dad.Copy !req
520. This way, please.Copy !req
521. What is this? What
are you doing here?Copy !req
522. I thought we were
closing a deal.Copy !req
523. Your son just cut
a new deal for you.Copy !req
524. You had to put it on him.Copy !req
525. Is this today's solution?
Blame it on our son?Copy !req
526. Don't dump this on me. I put him in
therapy, you put him in a murder trial.Copy !req
527. Sid, there's no justice. At
least we can have recovery.Copy !req
528. Keep your recovery.
I got revenge.Copy !req
529. This is finished.
Dad, don't do that.Copy !req
530. Scotty's telling the
truth, he called Sid.Copy !req
531. He told me after it happened.Copy !req
532. You wanted corroboration.Copy !req
533. You said you'd threaten the
father, you threatened the son.Copy !req
534. Alice Hutton finds out,
she'll have a hayride on cross.Copy !req
535. Was there any other choice?
Now we look like carnival hucksters.Copy !req
536. "Want a deal? Take a number. You
too can get a piece of the movie rights."Copy !req
537. Nobody said this
was an easy case.Copy !req
538. Conspiracy without collusion?
But you've got to make a point.Copy !req
539. Which is? You treat
people like animal acts...Copy !req
540. one of them
dies, you go to jail.Copy !req
541. Well, I just hope we
don't look ridiculous.Copy !req
542. Oh, I'd wear clown make-up if I
thought it'd get me a conviction.Copy !req
543. "Docket number 62397,
The People v. Richard Mason.Copy !req
544. Charges are manslaughter, first degree,
criminal facilitation, first degree."Copy !req
545. So, Miss Hutton?Copy !req
546. Your Honor, in view of the
absurdity of these charges...Copy !req
547. my client would like
to make a statement.Copy !req
548. In my defense, Your Honor, I
point to my career in journalism...Copy !req
549. the respect of my colleagues.Copy !req
550. Sir, I have no idea who you are.Copy !req
551. Miss Hutton, I'm not going to dismiss
charges before they get to grand jury.Copy !req
552. Prompt your client to enter
a plea or enter it for him.Copy !req
553. Not guilty on both counts.Copy !req
554. Ms. Kincaid?Copy !req
555. We don't think bail will affect
Mr. Mason's appearance at trial.Copy !req
556. The People ask for $100,000. We
find that acceptable, Your Honor.Copy !req
557. Such reasonable people.
Who says no happy families?Copy !req
558. And Mr. Mason, stay in character if
you want, but please, stay in town.Copy !req
559. Next.Copy !req
560. Who are you? I
speak for the people.Copy !req
561. I gave the Fishers their real day
in court. You're a public servant.Copy !req
562. Your system gave a
molester 18 months.Copy !req
563. You serve the public
better than I do?Copy !req
564. I didn't arrange
to have him killed.Copy !req
565. Neither did my client.
He had no motive.Copy !req
566. Your client saw an opportunity,
Alice. I'm an opportunist?Copy !req
567. Thirty-eight people were
shot in courtrooms last year.Copy !req
568. The show you're staging
is no different than mine.Copy !req
569. Mr. Mason, please
focus. This is not a show.Copy !req
570. You have a camera, I
have Attica. Take a rest.Copy !req
571. I didn't get my nap today either.
Geraldo had Nazis on the show...Copy !req
572. he started a brawl, nobody indicted
him. Nobody got shot on his show.Copy !req
573. Now, I'm willing to discuss
a plea at the lowest charge.Copy !req
574. Go ahead, pick that scab.Copy !req
575. I'll see you in court.
Don't be late, it's live.Copy !req
576. By the way, that phone conversation
the security guard overheard...Copy !req
577. Mr. Talbott?Copy !req
578. I was on the phone with my
client. You'll never get it admitted.Copy !req
579. The call is privileged.Copy !req
580. Mr. Talbott worked for
my client. In essence...Copy !req
581. he was my client. Oh,
really? On what grounds?Copy !req
582. He was a necessary agent to
my client conducting his business.Copy !req
583. The necessary agent theory?
Fine for the law journals, Alice.Copy !req
584. We don't make law
here, we uphold it.Copy !req
585. My client didn't
expect to be overheard.Copy !req
586. McCormick on Evidence, he
thought the call was private...Copy !req
587. he didn't waive privilege.Copy !req
588. It was a public telephone.Copy !req
589. Attorney-client privilege is one of
those great zones of privacy, however...Copy !req
590. Your Honor, I...
Sit down, Alice.Copy !req
591. I don't see how it applies
here. And the jury has a choice.Copy !req
592. They don't have to believe
a word Mr. Talbott says.Copy !req
593. The testimony on the call
is admitted. Let's go to trial.Copy !req
594. Alice, that phone call,
Talbott isn't lying, is he?Copy !req
595. That conversation was
privileged. This isn't about privilege.Copy !req
596. Prove my actions were improper,
bring me up for disbarment.Copy !req
597. If I could prove it, it would
be accessory to manslaughter.Copy !req
598. Who appointed you
Saint Francis of Assisi?Copy !req
599. It must be thrilling to occupy
such high moral ground.Copy !req
600. You're an officer of the court.Copy !req
601. It sounds like you were discussing
the possibility of murder with your client.Copy !req
602. Really? You want to
try proving any of that?Copy !req
603. You're desperate.Copy !req
604. Talk shows have been on 20
hours a week for the past 10 years.Copy !req
605. First time somebody gets
shot, you call it manslaughter?Copy !req
606. It's what a jury calls it that counts.
This prosecution's a hummer.Copy !req
607. I don't know how you look
at yourself in the mirror.Copy !req
608. I'm a Catholic, I can
feel guilty about anything.Copy !req
609. But I'll bet my conscience is
easier to live with than yours.Copy !req
610. Now, what will the
defendant tell you?Copy !req
611. That he covers the news.Copy !req
612. But in this case, he didn't
cover the news, he made it.Copy !req
613. Now, let's be clear
about the motive.Copy !req
614. Nothing draws people
to their television sets...Copy !req
615. nothing is more
magnetic than violence.Copy !req
616. And each year, the stakes go up.Copy !req
617. You had a fistfight on
your show last year...Copy !req
618. now who's going to watch
if that happens again?Copy !req
619. The higher the stakes,
the higher the ratings.Copy !req
620. The higher the ratings, the more
money goes into Mr. Mason's pockets.Copy !req
621. And these stakes
are human lives.Copy !req
622. Not just the life
of Dr. Vinton...Copy !req
623. but the lives of the
entire Fisher family.Copy !req
624. Now, Mr. Mason brought them
together as you would gasoline and fire.Copy !req
625. And he waited for the explosion.Copy !req
626. The People will prove
that the explosion came...Copy !req
627. because the defendant
deliberately lit the match.Copy !req
628. Mr. Stone has a strange
notion of human behavior.Copy !req
629. The defendant, he believes, is
responsible for what other people do.Copy !req
630. He says, let's be
clear about motive.Copy !req
631. I suggest, let's be
clear about the facts.Copy !req
632. Here's what you'll learn from the
witnesses. The defendant didn't fire a gun.Copy !req
633. He didn't put a gun in anyone's
hand, he didn't coerce...Copy !req
634. anyone to appear on his program.Copy !req
635. And I remind you
of one other fact.Copy !req
636. Long before the defendant
ever met the Fisher family...Copy !req
637. Scott Fisher's father
attacked Joseph Vinton.Copy !req
638. Did Richard Mason provoke
Mr. Fisher to fire a gun?Copy !req
639. Or was he provoked
in a courtroom...Copy !req
640. long before Richard
Mason ever heard of him?Copy !req
641. That phone call scared
the hell out of me.Copy !req
642. What specifically worried you?Copy !req
643. Mr. Mason always said
Fisher might show up.Copy !req
644. When he asked his lawyer
what kind of trouble he'll be in...Copy !req
645. I figure he knows for sure.Copy !req
646. Did you do anything about
your concerns? Well, I told him:Copy !req
647. "Let me hire an extra
man." He said, "Forget it.Copy !req
648. Fisher comes, I'll let the guy
talk. "I said," The guy's nuts...Copy !req
649. anything can happen." And
what did Mr. Mason say to that?Copy !req
650. He said, "We're doing a show.
Things are supposed to happen."Copy !req
651. Thank you. Your witness.Copy !req
652. So, Mr. Talbott, you
thought there'd be trouble?Copy !req
653. Did you call the police?Copy !req
654. I followed Mr. Mason's orders.
Did you follow orders as a cop?Copy !req
655. Why did you leave the
Police Department? Objection.Copy !req
656. Is it true you
resigned because...Copy !req
657. Miss Hutton.
Counsel will approach.Copy !req
658. When he objects,
you wait for my ruling.Copy !req
659. Now, Mr. Talbott
wasn't convicted of aCopy !req
660. crime, get near that
again, you'll regret it.Copy !req
661. Objection sustained.Copy !req
662. Mr. Talbott, this call
you say you overheard.Copy !req
663. Did you mention it in your
statement to the police?Copy !req
664. No, I didn't.Copy !req
665. Well, you lied then,
or you're lying now.Copy !req
666. Is it true you no longer
work for Richard Mason...Copy !req
667. that you were fired the day after
the shooting of Joseph Vinton?Copy !req
668. Yeah, I was fired. Well,
you lied to the police.Copy !req
669. I wonder, are you angry enough
at Richard Mason to lie now?Copy !req
670. I didn't want my son on TV.
What did you tell Mr. Mason?Copy !req
671. I said, "You put Scotty on, I'm
gonna be there. It'll be trouble."Copy !req
672. Mason says, "It's news to America.
You don't like the news, make your own."Copy !req
673. And what did that mean to you?
Objection. Asks for conclusion.Copy !req
674. No, I'll allow it. Mr. Fisher?Copy !req
675. It meant lump it.Copy !req
676. He wanted me to come and attack
Vinton. Thank you. Your witness.Copy !req
677. So, you testified your son
told you where to go that day.Copy !req
678. Can you tell the court why wasn't Scott
charged as an accessory in this crime?Copy !req
679. I don't know.Copy !req
680. Is that so? You said you
made a deal with Mr. Stone.Copy !req
681. You'd implicate Mr. Mason in
exchange for a reduced sentence.Copy !req
682. Was your son a
part of that deal?Copy !req
683. They threatened to indict
Scotty. "They," Mr. Fisher?Copy !req
684. Mr. Stone, the
District Attorney.Copy !req
685. He said he'd indict my son.Copy !req
686. Compelling incentive. If my son
were threatened, I'd say anything.Copy !req
687. No further questions.Copy !req
688. Mason did it! He
made Scotty call me.Copy !req
689. He's a parasite!
He's filth! Mr. Fisher!Copy !req
690. The jury will ignore the witness's
remark. Strike it from the record.Copy !req
691. Redirect, Your Honor? If the
witness can control himself.Copy !req
692. Mr. Fisher, did you ever
offer to lie in your testimony?Copy !req
693. I wanted to say Mason
told me where to go.Copy !req
694. I wanted to say Scotty
had nothing to do with it.Copy !req
695. And how did I respond?Copy !req
696. You said that was perjury. You
said you couldn't let me do that.Copy !req
697. Thank you. No further questions.Copy !req
698. It was at the hotel.
I was in my room.Copy !req
699. And what did Mr. Mason tell you?Copy !req
700. He said where the
show was gonna be...Copy !req
701. might be painful.Copy !req
702. And what did you say to
that? I told him I was scared...Copy !req
703. about seeing Dr. Vinton.Copy !req
704. I didn't want to
know where it was.Copy !req
705. He said he had to tell me.
The Waverly, where Dr. Vinton...Copy !req
706. took me after the sessions.Copy !req
707. Did Mr. Mason explain to you
why he had to tell you where it was?Copy !req
708. He said my dad
ought to be there.Copy !req
709. He couldn't tell Dad where the
show was going to be, but I could.Copy !req
710. He took me to a pay phone
downstairs and I called my dad.Copy !req
711. Thanks, Scott. Your witness.Copy !req
712. I know this is difficult for you, Scott.
All we want you to do is tell the truth.Copy !req
713. Now, you met with Dr. Vinton
for how long? About three years.Copy !req
714. And did your mother ever ask you
about your sessions with the doctor?Copy !req
715. Objection. Relevance?
Goes to credibility.Copy !req
716. I'll allow it, but make
the connection quickly.Copy !req
717. Go on, Scott. Sure,
my mom asked me.Copy !req
718. And in three years you never
told her what Dr. Vinton did to you?Copy !req
719. No, she wanted me to go. You
wanted to please your mother...Copy !req
720. so you didn't tell the truth.Copy !req
721. You want to make it
sound like I'm lying.Copy !req
722. I'm not. Mr. Mason
told me to call my dad.Copy !req
723. I didn't know what
he was gonna do.Copy !req
724. Scott, didn't Mr. Stone
prepare you for today?Copy !req
725. Didn't he tell you
exactly what to say?Copy !req
726. He told me just like
you, to tell the truth.Copy !req
727. No further questions.Copy !req
728. She couldn't break him, Adam.Copy !req
729. Ben, who said all cases are
made by prepping the witnesses?Copy !req
730. You did, I think. About
400 times. Oh, yeah.Copy !req
731. Ben, Mr. Mason just
held a press conference.Copy !req
732. He fully expects
to be acquitted.Copy !req
733. He's suing for false arrest
and malicious prosecution.Copy !req
734. $5 million in damages.Copy !req
735. Well, the last guy
that tried that with me...Copy !req
736. is still doing three-to-nine.Copy !req
737. I wouldn't eat that
canary just yet.Copy !req
738. It's a long trip from your
witnesses to motive and conviction.Copy !req
739. I'm pretty sure
Mr. Mason will get us there.Copy !req
740. Well, but he might be a
better performer than you.Copy !req
741. Certainly had as much practice.Copy !req
742. Well, then I can
learn something.Copy !req
743. Why did you visit Scott
at the hotel that night?Copy !req
744. I spend time with all my subjects.
Especially a vulnerable 15-year-old.Copy !req
745. What did you tell Scott? I
reminded him how hard it would be.Copy !req
746. Frankly, I wanted to assure myself
that he wouldn't be damaged...Copy !req
747. and if I wasn't convinced, I
would have canceled the show.Copy !req
748. Did you tell him where the show
would be and ask him to call his father?Copy !req
749. Absolutely not. I
spoke to Mr. Fisher.Copy !req
750. Anyone could see the
man was dangerous.Copy !req
751. Did you instruct Barry Talbott to
curtail his vigilance in any way?Copy !req
752. The opposite.Copy !req
753. I was concerned that Mr. Fisher
might find out the location of the show.Copy !req
754. I told Mr. Talbott to
stop him at all costs.Copy !req
755. Mr. Mason, do you consider yourself
to have high professional standards?Copy !req
756. Yes, I do.Copy !req
757. There are some things I
will not do in pursuit of a story.Copy !req
758. I've never used a hidden camera. I
don't surprise subjects in parking lots.Copy !req
759. And I don't pay
convicted felons.Copy !req
760. I might add that some of my colleagues
at the networks are not so particular.Copy !req
761. Thank you. Your witness.Copy !req
762. So, you have high
professional standards, sir, yet...Copy !req
763. you put the Fisher family on your show,
you knew that Mr. Fisher was dangerous.Copy !req
764. Is that a high standard?Copy !req
765. I took every precaution.
Didn't you provoke Mr. Fisher?Copy !req
766. Didn't you refuse to
hire additional security?Copy !req
767. Didn't you manipulate Scott
Fisher? None of that is true.Copy !req
768. What about guests on your previous
shows? Didn't you arrange to have...Copy !req
769. Objection. May we approach?Copy !req
770. Mr. Mason's past programs are
irrelevant. It goes to motive, Your Honor.Copy !req
771. And they're inadmissible.
Put it in your pocket, Ben.Copy !req
772. I didn't let her do it to your
witness, you don't do it to hers.Copy !req
773. Objection sustained.Copy !req
774. Mr. Stone?Copy !req
775. Are you telling this court, sir,
that you feel no responsibility...Copy !req
776. for the death of Dr. Vinton?Copy !req
777. It was a tragedy, but I would never
knowingly put anyone's life in danger.Copy !req
778. Judge, you can't allow this.
You want to go in the back door?Copy !req
779. Your client opened the door.Copy !req
780. Hello there, send the
arguments toward my door.Copy !req
781. Mr. Stone tried to sneak in
character testimony before.Copy !req
782. He wanted to tarnish
my client but you said no.Copy !req
783. Mr. Mason's past programs
haven't suddenly become relevant.Copy !req
784. But they have,
Alice. Mason lied.Copy !req
785. He said he never put
anyone in danger. He did.Copy !req
786. He said "knowingly." He would
never knowingly put anyone in danger.Copy !req
787. Ben, you have rebuttal on this?Copy !req
788. I do, Your Honor.Copy !req
789. A witness who was
there and she'll testify.Copy !req
790. It's grossly prejudicial.Copy !req
791. People v. Zackowitz, Benjamin Cardozo
on the New York Court of Appeals.Copy !req
792. What about Wigmore?Copy !req
793. Character is never an issue unless
the defendant chooses to make it one...Copy !req
794. which is what your client did. It's too
bad, he should have kept his mouth shut.Copy !req
795. I'm going to allow this...Copy !req
796. but you better hope your witness
knows what she's talking about.Copy !req
797. We wanted the juror
from the Pulisi trial...Copy !req
798. to talk about organized crime.Copy !req
799. We picked juror
number six, James Davis.Copy !req
800. And why did you want that
particular juror on your show?Copy !req
801. He was the one who
pushed the jury to convict.Copy !req
802. He said he would talk
about it, but he was afraid.Copy !req
803. Mr. Mason assured him that we'd
alter his voice, silhouette his face.Copy !req
804. And did Mr. Mason do that?Copy !req
805. Sure, he did.Copy !req
806. Then he invited Nick
Pulisi's son on the show.Copy !req
807. Mr. Davis didn't know
until halfway through.Copy !req
808. He disappeared
from a parking lot.Copy !req
809. They never found him.Copy !req
810. Were you involved in
the show that featured...Copy !req
811. prostitutes in Times Square?Copy !req
812. I helped find those girls.Copy !req
813. The day of the show one of them, her
name was Cheryl, she was a little tired.Copy !req
814. Mr. Mason was upset.Copy !req
815. The first time we talked to her,
she was all lit up, she was funny.Copy !req
816. Lit up, you mean that
she was on drugs?Copy !req
817. She was on cocaine.Copy !req
818. And what did Mr. Mason
do to help her be funny?Copy !req
819. He gave her $300, told
her to take a little walk.Copy !req
820. Did she come back?Copy !req
821. Yeah.Copy !req
822. She was her old self.Copy !req
823. She was buzzed.Copy !req
824. We were just off the air
when she keeled over.Copy !req
825. Later, we found out she
bought some bad stuff.Copy !req
826. She barely made
it to the hospital.Copy !req
827. Miss Corrio, one last question.Copy !req
828. How did Mr. Mason
react to that news?Copy !req
829. He said, "What a waste...Copy !req
830. too bad she didn't
OD on the show."Copy !req
831. He said, "What we really needed
was for somebody to die on the air."Copy !req
832. On the first count of the indictment
manslaughter in the first degree...Copy !req
833. how does the jury find?Copy !req
834. We find the
defendant not guilty.Copy !req
835. On the second count
of the indictment,Copy !req
836. the charge of
criminal facilitation...Copy !req
837. in the first degree,
how does the jury find?Copy !req
838. We find the defendant guilty.Copy !req
839. Move to continue
bail until sentencing.Copy !req
840. Motion granted.Copy !req
841. I'm disappointed,
but not only for myself.Copy !req
842. It's a sad day for
the First Amendment.Copy !req
843. He'll do 18 months,
better than nothing.Copy !req
844. Eighteen months is
what Vinton got, right?Copy !req
845. Mason could write his
own book in that time.Copy !req
846. Oh, he's off the air. Oh,
I don't know about that.Copy !req
847. Five hundred cable channels coming?
He could start the Prison Channel.Copy !req