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who investigate crime
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who prosecute the offenders.
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kid I've ever known,
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become an art form.
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his inner sense of self.
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his inner monster.
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Maggie plants her feet
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and screams bloody murder.
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independence.
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and discipline.
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(baby crying)
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Just call!
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her friend Tracy Underwood.
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she heard a shot,
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Amy was on the ground.
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through-and-through.
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wind up?
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what kind of weapon?
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from a distance,
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or shell casing...
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was the shooter?
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she was facing
before she got hit,
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the angle of the shot.
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in my stroller.
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what she was doing.
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my restaurant.
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where the shot came from?
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weren't you?
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51. I think it was
from over there.
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52. Has anyone called
Amy's husband?
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54. Uh, the officer
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of the baby.
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her husband?
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57. Uh, he's a consultant
with McMurtry & Company.
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a stray bullet.
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61. Six inches to the right,
and she'd still be here.
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62. Six inches to the right,
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63. and Lincoln would've seen
the end of the play.
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this is happening.
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acupuncturist appointment.
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from lifting the baby.
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in Chinatown?
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70. How could this have happened
at 9:00 in the morning?
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is a difficult question
at a time like this,
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to hurt your wife?
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was some random thing.
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of anything just yet.
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76. We have to ask.
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the wrong road.
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you have to ask
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but please,
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on my wife, and, uh,
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who wanted to hurt her.
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from this morning
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with his daughter.
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89. My father has something
to tell you.
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90. He knows something
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91. about the shooting
that happened this morning.
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Mr. Chin?
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we could use your help.
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96. If you talk to us,
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98. If you don't...
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99. The Ghost Dragons.
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100. They were extorting
my restaurant.
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have enough money.
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one way or another.
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this to warn me.
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Mr. Chin.
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the Dai Lo.
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106. Out.
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morning on Catherine Street.
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that wouldn't
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now would it,
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going on in your own territory.
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114. I don't know what
you mean, brother.
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the people live
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protection money.
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117. Yeah.
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9:00 this morning?
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119. (laughing):
Nine o'clock.
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120. I was catching Z's, man.
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121. Lennie.
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122. The lou wants us
to check out
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on Powell Street.
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124. I was standing in line
behind him, he just collapsed.
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125. Did you hear the shot?
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126. I thought it was
a car backfiring.
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127. You know where
it came from?
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128. Definitely
from over there.
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130. We checked, Detective.
Nothing.
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131. Well, check again.
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132. Did you see anything
after the shooting?
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133. Everyone taking cover.
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134. Detectives!
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135. This looks like your slug.
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a seven-millimeter.
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138. Definitely a rifle.
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victim goes down.
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one in the head.
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stray bullets.
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see the victim go down,
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these Ghost Dragons?
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line-ups on the extortion,
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shooting doesn't seem
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to a restaurant.
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151. Well, what about
some kind of hit?
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between the two victims?
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153. He's an accountant,
she's a mom.
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154. Maybe he did her taxes.
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155. Well, let's hope that's it.
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156. I'm sorry.
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157. Amy Lane isn't anywhere
in Mr. Speiling's book.
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158. How about off the book?
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159. What's that
supposed to mean?
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160. Could they have been
seeing each other socially?
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161. Absolutely not.
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162. Look, Mrs. Barker,
we're not interested
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Mr. Speiling
or his family,
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was not having an affair.
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167. And frankly, I can't believe
that you would come in here
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and imply that he was.
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every second counts,
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there are little signs,
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think about it.
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about them.
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178. Yeah.
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179. Thanks.
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Charlie Rodriguez.
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the power company.
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183. Slug's from a rifle.
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184. Tell me someone
saw something.
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this place is a mess.
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to talk to people.
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187. Sergeant, I want you to hunt
down every single person
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when this man was shot.
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where they were standing,
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what they were doing.
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191. Yes, ma'am.
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193. I'm trying to figure out
where your shot came from.
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195. He was DOA, so the medics
didn't touch him,
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he was facing the street,
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when he got hit.
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into the wound,
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200. measured the angle.
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201. Now, based on
that calculation—
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203. That roof.
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residue over here.
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205. So the guy took his shot
from here.
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down the stairs,
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a couple of rooftops.
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taped to the wall
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of the roof.
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fired from a Remington 700.
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walking around with a rifle
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breaks down like a pool cue.
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jacket or your shopping bag.
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with a single shot.
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what he's doing.
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these people?
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220. Just that they were shot
within a ten-block radius.
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it looks random.
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222. Wonderful.
I think it's time
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lower Manhattan,
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when the towers went down.
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225. If we do that, sir,
we'll have panic on our hands.
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swarming with manpower.
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227. All RDO's
have been canceled.
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double tours.
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observation posts set up
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of the rooftops.
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know about the note?
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news outlets say yes.
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continue to run the team—
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son of a bitch.
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the west side of Pell Street.
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of Pell and Mott.
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242. Central, we've got
a possible suspect...
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243. Eight million people
in this city, and one lunatic.
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the house always wins.
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somebody on her roof.
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green steeple.
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is Hayley Sanders.
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the shooter?
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261. Three kids saw suspicious men
leave different buildings.
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for some fresh blood.
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on the roof of 432.
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how to count.
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perplexing
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they were written
by a lunatic.
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of a few distinct personalities.
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schizophrenic.
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the paper
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that he used
are identical,
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be the same guy.
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incongruous.
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he wrote the second note.
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not crazy,
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to think he was?
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this guy did?
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to camouflage
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with a bunch of others.
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he'd have to know
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was going to be
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and certain place.
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the families.
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had a routine.
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Charlie didn't gamble.
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some potato chips
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the same day they came.
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he was good at his job.
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with the power
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that site for a while?
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three months.
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having any problems
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Mrs. Rodriguez?
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trouble at work?
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wait a second.
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complaining about.
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this jerk had an attitude.
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his end of the work.
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or another.
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tell you
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328. Yeah, he's picking up his kid
from school, like always.
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know him pretty well.
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I started here.
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next month.
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no complaints.
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338. Yeah.
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340. Yeah, thanks.
You can go now.
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to ask you
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questions, Herman.
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go inside, Justin?
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close the door.
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for me right now.
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We'll come back.
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That'd work for me.
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to be a smart-ass,
Mr. Capshaw.
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I'll call you tomorrow.
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all the time.
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to slip people's minds.
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you don't want
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your boy around.
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take a ride with us
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unless I'm under arrest.
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366. 39 years old,
not even a parking ticket.
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discharged in '93.
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in the Philippines.
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around a rifle.
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sharp-shooting rating
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him up because...?
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the Bill of Rights.
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on his residence.
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in game shape.
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target ranges
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for a rifle.
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like that out in Armonk.
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Sure, I know him.
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but we're open to the public.
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up here a few times.
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was shooting with?
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with a scope.
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qualify?
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in the city who...?
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down the list.
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out to be him...
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up in here, right?
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397. You know, I didn't even think
this guy lived in the city.
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399. I heard him talking to some guy
at the counter one day,
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he took
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up in the Catskills.
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I'm no expert,
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like the one
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from Hayley Sanders.
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you're doing?
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the murder of Hayley Sanders...
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Larry Speiling...
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here alone.
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Child Welfare will find
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for him.
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It'll be okay.
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to lie to the kid?
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to remain silent...
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Capshaw.
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428. Four counts of murder
in the first degree.
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from my courtroom.
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Counselor.
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for Mr. Capshaw.
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ask for remand.
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with shooting four people,
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entire city.
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in Mr. Capshaw's cabin
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anything, Your Honor,
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That man killed
my daughter.
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ma'am.
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release him from jail.
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my bail application,
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made up your mind.
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what it would take
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off the table.
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won't play along?
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460. He's got this one thing
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461. nagging at him: he
says he's innocent.
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462. I did not kill
those people.
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463. The evidence...
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464. What, the rifle?
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465. My cabin was wide open,
all the time.
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466. Anyone could've stolen it.
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467. To kill your boss?
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468. Like I'm the only one
who didn't get along
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469. with Rodriguez?
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470. Everyone at work
knew I had a cabin upstate.
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471. Call us if
anything changes.
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472. What other evidence
do we have
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473. linking him
to the shootings?
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474. You don't actually believe him?
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475. What scares me
are those two little words
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476. that pay a defense
attorney's rent.
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477. "Not guilty"?
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478. "Reasonable doubt."
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479. What about the notes?
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480. They were written
on a computer,
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481. only Capshaw
didn't have one
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482. in his apartment
or cabin.
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483. Those two little
words are getting
louder and louder.
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484. I'll talk to Forensics.
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485. So, I contacted
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486. the Secret Service.
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487. They have the largest
investigative database
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488. of paper and ink
in the world.
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489. Anyway, the notes
were printed
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490. on an HP Deskjet.
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491. Great. I could've
written them.
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492. I doubt it.
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493. I was joking.
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494. I wasn't.
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495. Evenyouroffice
spends more on paper.
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496. Now, this is not quite
commercial grade.
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497. It came from a mill
in Lawrence, Massachusetts
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498. that does not distribute
to retailers.
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499. Their only local contract
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500. is with the New York
City public schools.
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501. Now, either Capshaw is
younger than he looks...
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502. or his son
wrote the notes.
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503. He's in my third period
math class,
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504. and fifth period
computer science.
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505. Always does his homework.
Solid B+ student.
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506. What about friends?
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507. I couldn't tell you.
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508. If he had any, I didn't notice.
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509. The kids team up
for certain projects.
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510. Justin always
worked alone.
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511. The other kids didn't
want to work with him?
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512. Actually,
I got the feeling
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513. he didn't want
to work withthem.
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514. Uh, right, right here.
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515. This... This is
where Justin sits.
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516. Do you mind?
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517. No, h-help yourself.
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518. So, you really think
Justin's dad was the sniper?
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519. There's a good chance.
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520. It just goes to show you can't
ever tell about people.
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521. He seemed like
one of the good ones.
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522. Never missed a parent-
teacher conference.
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523. Very concerned about
Justin's progress.
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524. It's all kind of...
depressing.
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525. Thank you.
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526. Jack...
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527. Forensics confirmed that
the notes were written
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528. on the paper from Justin
Capshaw's school.
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529. This is a copy
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530. of the first note— look
at the "I" in "voices."
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531. It's not dotted.
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532. This is what I printed
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533. from Justin's computer
at school.
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534. No dot here, either.
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535. Justin had to have
written the notes.
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536. Call Van Buren.
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537. D.A.:
Come on.
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538. We both know what
you're trying to do:
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539. Squeeze the kid to
get to his old man.
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540. You should be ashamed
of yourself.
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541. My dad didn't kill anyone.
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542. You see?
Nothing to squeeze.
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543. Actually, Justin,
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544. we know you helped your father
kill those people.
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545. D.A.:
Hold on.
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546. I am still back on my
client saying his dad
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547. didn't kill anyone.
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548. Then why did your
client write the notes
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549. we found at the scene?
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550. I can help you, Justin.
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551. If all you did
was write those notes,
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552. we can cut a deal right here
and now.
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553. You'd never have
to see the inside
of a prison cell.
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554. My dad didn't
shoot those people.
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555. Did your father tell you
to say that?
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556. No.
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557. He didn't kill those people.
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558. I did.
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559. Jack, I think we better
regroup later.
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560. It's been through
the lab twice.
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561. Two sets
of prints on the rifle—
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562. Capshaw and
his kid, Justin.
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563. Not what you
wanted to hear.
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564. I was hoping you just
found the father's.
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565. There is one thing.
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566. Does either one
of them wear glasses?
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567. Why?
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568. Because the last person
to shoot this baby
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569. had less than perfect
eyesight.
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570. How can you tell?
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571. The focus adjustment
on the scope.
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572. It's like binoculars.
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573. As you bring the image
in closer, you need to refocus.
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574. If you wear glasses,
you need to take them off
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575. and use the focus
to make the image clear.
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576. I'll take your
word for it.
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577. Okay, well,
the focus adjustment here
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578. was set for someone with vision
in the 2200 range.
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579. Couldn't it
have moved by CSU?
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580. Maybe a little,
but not that much.
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581. And there's one other thing.
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582. The ocular lens, where
you focus the crosshairs,
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583. it was also focused for someone
who'd have to struggle
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584. to see the "E" on the eye chart.
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585. And for this,
you'd need to loosen a ring,
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586. make the adjustment,
and tighten the ring back up.
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587. I don't want
to believe it, either,
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588. but Justin's the only one
that wear's glasses.
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589. Any history
of violent behavior?
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590. No.
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591. Where's Capshaw's
military record?
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592. Let's hope Herman Capshaw
wears contact lenses.
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593. He was a
marksman, Jack.
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594. I'm sure he had
pretty good vision.
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595. A freshman in high school
doesn't just get up one morning
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596. and decide to climb up
on the roof
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597. and mow down
people in the street.
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598. Damn.
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599. Perfect vision?
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600. 20/10.
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601. Maybe his
father talked
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602. around the breakfast table
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603. about how he could kill
Rodriguez and get away with it.
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604. How old is Justin Capshaw?
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605. 15, why?
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606. Herman Capshaw
was stationed
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607. in the Philippines with his
wife and son from 1987 to 1993.
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608. Their only son
was born there in 1988.
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609. That would make him 15.
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610. That same
wife and son
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611. died in a car crash
in the Philippines in 1993.
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612. You'd be happy to know
I believe you, Justin.
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613. Will you let my dad go now?
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614. I'd be happy to do that
if I knew where he was.
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615. What are you trying
to pull here, Jack?
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616. Herman Capshaw
isn't Justin's father.
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617. Liar.
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618. Herman Capshaw's
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619. only child was named Herbert.
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620. He died in a car crash
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621. in 1993.
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622. And what's that got
to do with the price
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623. of pickles in Park Slope?
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624. If I'm going to charge
your client
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625. with four counts of murder,
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626. it would help to know his name.
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627. He adopted me.
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628. There's no record
of that, Justin.
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629. She's lying.
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630. Okay.
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631. We'll just charge Herman Capshaw
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632. with interference
with parental rights.
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633. No.
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634. My whole family died
when our house burnt down.
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635. Your mom and dad?
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636. And my sister.
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637. Jennie wasn't even
supposed to be there.
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638. She was supposed to be in
horseback riding class.
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639. Herman took me in.
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640. He took care of me.
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641. That's why I shot those people.
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642. Rodriguez was going to fire him.
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643. For once,I got to helphim.
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644. What's your real name, son?
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645. Justin Capshaw.
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646. The Marines tell me that Capshaw
has no brothers or sisters.
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647. So he's not crazy Uncle Herman
down in the big city.
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648. Unfortunately, no.
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649. And the police
are checking records
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650. of house fires
with three victims.
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651. Justin's school records show
that he entered kindergarten
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652. in '93.
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653. Capshaw's super
told Briscoe and Green
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654. that's when he moved
into his apartment.
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655. If only we knew where
he lived before that.
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656. We do.
He bought the cabin in '86
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657. before he shipped out.
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658. Does it really make a difference
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659. what Justin's real name is?
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660. It wouldn't
if he'd tell us.
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661. Kid's hiding something.
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662. And I want to know what.
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663. Do you know how many
little towns there are
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664. in the Catskills?
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665. No, but I'd bet
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666. there aren't that many
horseback riding schools.
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667. Look, lady,
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668. this is not the IRS.
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669. I don't keep records.
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670. But you've been here
ten years?
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671. Seventeen.
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672. Is there any chance
you remember a student
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673. of yours named Jennie
who died in a fire?
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674. I've never been
very good with names,
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675. but something like that,
I think I would remember.
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676. Why?
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677. We have a boy
down in the city
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678. who says he had
a sister named Jennie
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679. who took riding lessons,
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680. but I'm sure he's lying,
anyway.
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681. Thanks.
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682. His name wouldn't
be Justin, would it?
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683. Why?
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684. About ten years
back, there was
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685. a Justin Lafferty—
he went missing.
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686. He had a sister, Jennie.
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687. She rode here.
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688. Is this family still around?
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689. Well, what's
left of it, yeah.
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690. Jake, he, uh, had one too many,
then he had a head-on
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691. with a beer truck
going south on the Thruway.
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692. That was maybe a year
after this thing with Justin.
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693. Look, if you're planning
on talking to Meg,
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694. I'd take it slow.
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695. I don't know that she's
gotten over this yet.
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696. So what does a New York City
district attorney want with me?
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697. I just have a few questions,
Mrs. Lafferty.
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698. This is about
that Lloyd Garrison, isn't it?
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699. You know, I always thought...
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700. Stop it, Mom.
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701. Just because
he has long hair...
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702. He's always going
down to the city
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703. for no reason I can think of.
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704. His hair doesn't bother me,
it's the tattoo.
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705. And she expects me to believe
she was at Woodstock.
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706. This doesn't have anything
to do with Lloyd Garrison.
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707. Ten years.
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708. We thought he was...
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709. I can't imagine what you've
been through, Mrs. Lafferty.
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710. Is he...?
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711. Physically, he's fine.
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712. How could he be fine?
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713. Some pervert kept him
locked up for ten years.
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714. There's no evidence
he was abused.
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715. Then why?
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716. What did he want Justin for?
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717. Oh, my God.
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718. Justin...
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719. Who is this?
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720. It's us, Justin.
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721. Jennie and Mom.
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722. Where's my dad?
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723. Dad died, Justin.
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724. What is she talking about?
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725. Your real father.
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726. Herman Capshaw
is my real father.
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727. I don't know these people.
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728. Justin...
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729. I don't know
why you brought me here.
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730. Can I go now?
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731. I want the bastard
who did that to my son dead.
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732. Ten years.
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733. I used to sweat when Bobby
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734. went off to summer camp
for six weeks.
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735. I don't know what's worse—
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736. thinking your kid is dead
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737. or finding him alive
but not recognizing you.
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738. Take it from
a parent,
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739. you prefer them alive
no matter what.
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740. Capshaw's attorney
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741. called again, he wants
to deal on the kidnapping.
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742. What are you going to do?
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743. Let him sweat for awhile.
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744. How am I going to prosecute
this kid, Arthur?
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745. You're going to remember
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746. the people lying dead
on the street, that's how.
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747. Thank you.
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748. "Notice of Parkman's intent
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749. "to assert
an affirmative defense.
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750. Not guilty by reason
of mental defect."
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751. There's a shock.
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752. Why would you think I'm crazy?
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753. I didn't say I did.
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754. Well, you're a
shrink, aren't you?
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755. Your attorney thinks
you may not be responsible
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756. for killing those people.
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757. Because I'm nuts?
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758. Tell me about
Herman Capshaw.
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759. He's the best.
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760. Tell me how.
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761. Okay.
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762. There was this one time,
back in third grade,
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763. these kids were picking on me.
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764. He took care of it.
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765. He hit them?
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766. Come on, we were
in third grade.
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767. He went right to their parents
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768. and told them
to make their kids cut it out.
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769. And they did?
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770. You better believe it.
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771. Dad was always
there like that for me.
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772. He's not your dad, Justin.
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773. Why not?
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774. He took care of me, he fed me,
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775. he bought whatever I needed.
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776. Justin, he took you away
from your real parents.
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777. They're dead.
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778. Dad loves me and I love him.
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779. Justin...
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780. what do you do
when you're not in school?
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781. What do you mean?
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782. Oh, I don't know.
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783. Do you play ball
with your friends?
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784. With my dad.
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785. Do you
go on dates?
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786. Dad says
school's more important.
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787. What about friends?
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788. Dad's all the friends I need.
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789. He does for me and I do for him.
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790. Did he ask you
to kill those people?
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791. How many times
do I have to say it?
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792. Mr. Rodriguez
was going to fire him.
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793. So you killed him.
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794. That's right.
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795. What about the other people?
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796. I tried to throw
the police off track.
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797. I feel bad about what I did,
but I had to do it.
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798. Why?
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799. He's my dad
and he needed my help.
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800. Since Capshaw
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801. was discharged from the Marines,
he's isolated himself.
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802. He's become what we call
an anomic personality.
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803. A man alone in a big city.
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804. Only we're dealing
with the boy here.
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805. Capshaw kept Justin
just as isolated.
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806. He sheltered him
from everything.
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807. And that's bad?
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808. When it extinguishes
all other
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809. human contact, it is.
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810. Did he abuse Justin?
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811. Emotionally, yes.
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812. He induced trauma by telling
him his real family was dead.
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813. The trauma combined
with the isolation
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814. created a relationship
with total dependence.
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815. Herman Capshaw
eases Justin's pain...
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816. And Justin
whacks four innocent people.
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817. To ease Capshaw's pain.
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818. It's a form of
Battered Child Syndrome.
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819. Are you recommending
we stick him in a hospital?
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820. I would,
if he didn't kill anybody.
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821. But when he pulled the trigger,
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822. he knew what
he was doing was wrong
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823. and he chose to do it, anyway.
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824. I've raised Justin
like he was my own son
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825. since he was
five years old.
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826. But he's not your son?
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827. No.
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828. Let's put our cards on
the table, Mr. Capshaw.
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829. You were indicted by the
District Attorney's Office
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830. for kidnapping Justin,
isn't that correct?
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831. Yes. But it's
not like that.
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832. I was a good
father to him.
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833. Did you agree
to plead guilty
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834. to kidnapping,
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835. and, as a part of
that plea agreement,
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836. did you agree
to testify here today?
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837. Yes.
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838. Did you know
a Mr. Charles Rodriguez?
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839. Yes, he was my boss.
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840. And he was about
to fire you,
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841. is that correct?
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842. Yes.
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843. Did you discuss
this with Justin?
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844. Yes, but... he would never...
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845. Yes or no, sir.
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846. Yes.
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847. Did you ever mention to Justin
that you liked the Beatles?
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848. Sure.
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849. What did he do?
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850. He bought me the boxed set.
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851. You never asked him
for it?
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852. I never asked him for anything.
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853. That's nice.
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854. What did you do when Justin
got a C in chemistry?
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855. I told him he'd never
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856. get into a good
college with C's.
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857. What did he do?
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858. He studied his butt off
and got an A.
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859. And that made you happy?
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860. Sure.
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861. He'd do anything
to make you happy,
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862. isn't that correct?
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863. What's going on here?
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864. I was a good father.
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865. Justin does well in school.
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866. He's not on drugs or in a gang.
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867. He's a good kid because of me.
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868. And he owed you big time
for that.
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869. Justin doesn't owe me anything.
I love him.
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870. You'd do anything
for him?
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871. That's right.
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872. And he'd do anything
for you?
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873. Yes.
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874. Nothing further.
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875. Justin may have been abused,
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876. but abuse in and of itself
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877. doesn't negate intent as
defined in the Penal Code.
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878. The abuse in Justin's case
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879. may have affected
his personality
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880. but it certainly
didn't cause
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881. any mental defect
that would've prevented him
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882. from knowing right from wrong.
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883. Abused?
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884. Did Mr. Capshaw
hit the defendant?
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885. No.
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886. But emotional abuse
can be sufficient
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887. to cause Battered
Child Syndrome.
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888. Battered Child Syndrome—
is that the equivalent
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889. of Battered Wife Syndrome,
Doctor?
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890. Yes.
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891. Isn't it true
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892. that Battered Wife Syndrome
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893. is often a valid defense
to a charge of murder?
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894. Of course, but in those cases,
the wife kills the person
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895. who's doing
the battering.
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896. Justin killed
people with whom
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897. he had no personal contact.
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898. Would you say that Justin was
dependent on Herman Capshaw?
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899. He felt he was.
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900. More so than in the normal
father-son relationship?
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901. Because of their
total isolation
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902. from the rest of society,
I'd have to say yes.
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903. So, if something
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904. or someone threatened
the well-being of Mr. Capshaw,
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905. how would
that affect Justin?
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906. It would feel like
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907. a direct threat to him, as well.
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908. And he'd feel compelled
to protect himself?
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909. I couldn't say.
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910. If I pointed a gun at you,
Dr. Olivet,
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911. wouldn't you try to shoot me
before I shot you?
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912. I suppose.
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913. Of course you would.
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914. If you tell anyone
that his family is dead,
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915. that he'll never see them again,
it certainly causes trauma.
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916. And if that someone
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917. is a five-year-old child,
Dr. Diamond,
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918. how would he be affected?
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919. It would be
devastating.
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920. He would attach
himself emotionally
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921. to the next caring person
he came into contact with.
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922. And that's why Justin
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923. became totally dependent
on Mr. Capshaw?
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924. The boy had no
choice but to land
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925. in a symbiotic relationship
with Mr. Capshaw.
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926. You said he had no choice,
Doctor?
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927. That is correct.
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928. He would do whatever it takes
to protect that relationship.
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929. Even kill?
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930. Yes.
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931. You're saying the defendant
hadno choice
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932. in the shooting
of Mr. Rodriguez,
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933. is that correct?
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934. Yes.
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935. What about
the other people?
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936. I don't know
what you mean.
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937. He killed three other
innocent people.
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938. People who were no threat to him
or to Mr. Capshaw.
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939. How do you
explain that?
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940. In his mind,
it was necessary to protect...
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941. Please.
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942. Hechoseto try to get away
with his crime,
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943. isn't that so?
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944. Hey, are you okay?
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945. Some days,
I really don't enjoy my job.
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946. I mean...
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947. my old man was the worst
son of a bitch
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948. you could possibly meet,
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949. but if some nut
had grabbed me up...
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950. I can't say what kind of person
I would've become.
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951. What's this?
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952. Crime scene photos.
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953. Hayley Sanders, Amy Lane,
Larry Speiling,
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954. Charlie Rodriguez.
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955. Do you have
an appointment?
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956. No, I don't!
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957. Well, miss, I'm sorry—
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958. I need to see him!
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959. I need to talk to him.
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960. Miss, please,
I can't let you in!
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961. I just need
to talk to him.
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962. It's okay, Fred.
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963. How can you do this to us?
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964. Your brother killed four people.
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965. He was a good kid!
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966. A happy kid!
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967. He wouldn't have done this
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968. if that lunatic hadn't
taken him from us.
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969. This whole thing...
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970. it turned my father
into a drunk.
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971. It wasn't an accident,
Mr. McCoy.
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972. He killed himself.
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973. My mother has been
walking around half-
dead for ten years!
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974. Hasn't my family
suffered enough?
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975. That's not my call, Jennie.
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976. (crying):
You bastard.
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977. That freak took him from us!
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978. Now you're doing it
all over again.
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979. You can't get me
to say anything bad about Dad.
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980. I wouldn't think of it.
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981. The man gave you everything.
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982. That's right.
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983. You are what you are today
because of him.
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984. He didn't make me
shoot those people,
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985. if that's what
you're getting at.
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986. But he did teach you
to shoot?
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987. He was rated an expert Marksman
in the Marines.
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988. We went hunting together.
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989. What did Mr. Capshaw
tell you
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990. about Charlie Rodriguez?
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991. He said he
was a jerk.
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992. He was always
picking on Dad.
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993. But Dad couldn't
do anything because
Charlie was the boss.
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994. Was "Dad" worried
about losing his job?
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995. He said they went over-budget
on the site.
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996. Somebody had to go.
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997. He knew Charlie would pick him.
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998. And then
what would happen?
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999. We'd end up
without money
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1000. or food or
a place to live.
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1001. And that's why you shot
Charlie Rodriguez?
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1002. Dad worked hard his whole life.
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1003. This jerk was going to ruin him.
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1004. And you couldn't let
that happen?
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1005. I love him.
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1006. He loves me.
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1007. Thank you.
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1008. Tell me about Amy Lane.
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1009. Who?
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1010. She's the first person
you killed.
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1011. I... I didn't know her.
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1012. Nice lady.
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1013. She had a daughter...
just eight months old.
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1014. How about
Larry Speiling?
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1015. We get counsel's point,
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1016. Your Honor.
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1017. The defense is willing
to stipulate
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1018. the defendant shot three people
at random.
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1019. Move on, Mr. McCoy.
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1020. What's the worst thing
that could've happened
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1021. if Charlie Rodriguez
had fired Mr. Capshaw?
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1022. We could end
up homeless.
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1023. The government could come
and take me away.
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1024. And that scared you?
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1025. Yes!
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1026. So you didn't shoot
Charlie Rodriguez
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1027. to help Mr. Capshaw.
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1028. You did it for yourself!
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1029. Huh?
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1030. Your attorney has
been arguing that you
shot these people
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1031. out of some compulsion
to protect Mr. Capshaw.
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1032. But the truth is
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1033. you were only thinking
about yourself, isn't that so?
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1034. No!
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1035. Dad would come and get me.
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1036. We're a family.
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1037. Not like them.
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1038. He loves me.
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1039. He would come and get me.
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1040. Have you reached
a verdict?
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1041. We have.
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1042. How do you find?
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1043. We find the defendant,
Justin Lafferty,
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1044. not guilty
by reason of mental defect.
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1045. The jury basically blamed
Capshaw for the murders.
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1046. I mean, he did put the
proverbial loaded rifle
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1047. in Justin's hand
and cock the hammer.
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1048. You don't actually think
the jury did the right thing.
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1049. Why not? The kid's
as much a victim as...
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1050. Please don't say
the four dead people.
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1051. Thank you.
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1052. On my watch, someone points
a rifle at a crowd
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1053. and pulls the trigger,
at a minimum,
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1054. gets to spend the rest
of his life in gray pajamas,
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1055. not being coddled
by a phalanx
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1056. of white coats trying to fix
the poor misguided soul.
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1057. I never thought of a
state mental institution
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1058. as a place to be coddled.
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1059. It ain't Attica.
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1060. There's always a chance Justin
can be rehabilitated, Arthur.
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1061. Four dead?
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1062. I don't think he's
earned that chance.
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1063. And I also think
my senior prosecutor
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1064. should agree with that.
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1065. I do.
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1066. But...
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1067. I'm a father.
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