1. In the criminal justice system
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who investigate crime
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who prosecute the offenders.
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7. Because I don't want her
to hear us talking, that's why.
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8. No, she knows all...
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10. if it was ten years ago
or yesterday.
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talking to you
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she seesusmidcoitus.
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I think I just heard gunshots.
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16. Lila!
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17. Dog walker heard shots coming
from this area and called 9-1-1.
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found the door wide open.
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Louise and Hugh Murdoch—
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20. husband and wife,
both Ph.D.s
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21. both full professors
at Stuyvesant College.
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22. Brainy household.
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23. Not smart enough
to lock the door.
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24. She took three
in the back.
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26. M.E. will have to
dig out the slugs.
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28. Two in the skull.
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29. Same on the slugs.
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30. You get a read
on the weapons?
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31. No shell casings.
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32. Could have been a.38.
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the lady took
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so if she's running away
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35. could have been a semi.
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36. Witness is outside.
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38. Was this phone here?
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cradle upstairs.
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the LUDs on this number
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42. I only saw the guy
for a couple of
seconds, you know?
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45. Uh, uh, slight build,
um, curly, dark hair.
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have been Hispanic.
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48. Uh, no, it's kind
of embarrassing.
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off after the guy?
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50. Sh-She only does that
with Latinos.
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51. Yeah, well, if you think
of anything else...
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52. You wouldn't think
on a block like this.
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53. Yeah.
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54. Was he any help?
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55. Other than the racist dog.
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56. My aunt had a spaniel
that didn't like tall men.
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57. Detectives,
we got something.
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58. In a trash can
around the corner.
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59. He takes the time to
clean up the casings
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60. but throws the gun
in the trash can?
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61. Well, some bulbs don't burn
as bright as others.
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62. Fired recently.
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63. Yeah. Three guesses where.
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64. Captioning sponsored by
UNIVERSAL NETWORK TELEVISION
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65. Forensics ran
the prints from the gun
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66. through the system—
nothing.
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67. And you're sure
this wasn't a robbery?
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68. If it was, he
was an amateur.
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was wearing
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Master Banker.
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71. It's a watch.
It goes for $25,000.
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hidden safe
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were untouched
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on all the walls.
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a connoisseur now?
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"Dogs Playing Poker..."
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77. Anyway, they were
both Stuyvesant
college professors.
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this is personal.
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quite the party givers.
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80. No, all they said was
there was a lot of people
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81. coming in and out.
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82. Hey, to me, two or more people
isa party.
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83. LUDs you wanted
from the Murdochs'
townhouse.
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three-minute call
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85. just six minutes before the
dog walker's 9-1-1 call.
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86. "Telemarketing Solutions"?
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87. I looked it up.
It's here in the city.
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we'll catch a break
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89. and the caller
overheard something.
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90. You guys remember
every donut you eat?
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91. Joke.
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92. Funny.
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93. Hey, man,
your average call here
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94. lasts about 20 seconds.
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95. This one, three minutes.
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96. Don't tell us
you don't remember.
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don't hear too often:
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comments about my mother.
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101. Then they slam down the phone.
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start off with, uh
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110. "This call is
being recorded for
quality assurance."
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111. A tape? Sure.
Piece of cake.
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112. What, no donut?
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114. That sounds like
a doorbell.
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115. And guess who's
coming to dinner.
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116. And there's more.
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117. Consolidating debt's
a good thing.
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the interest rate?
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120. I've got to go.
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121. That's no help.
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122. Mm, to the baffled
multitude, maybe.
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ground hum
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the far conversation
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with the near.
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129. and Professor Murdoch about her
protest of the Ellen Bar...
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130. "Ellen Bar..."?
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131. Maybe Murdoch had
a really big tab
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132. and the bartender
got fed up.
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133. No, probably just a fragment.
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134. But to be thorough,
I looked it up.
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of that name in the city.
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(chuckles)
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the far conversation
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she got closer
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144. Stuyvesant?
That's where they taught.
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145. Somebody doesn't have to
hand in that term paper.
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146. Hugh and Louise weren't just
two of my best faculty members.
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between them?
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a rough period
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it's to be expected
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walked around campus
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with students?
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155. Louise wasn't even teaching
this semester.
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to write a book
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160. Every year Harvard tries
to poach him.
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161. He doesn't-doesn't really
teach that much
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164. Uh, research.
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most of his time there.
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of his post-grad researchers.
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whacking Jonas Salk.
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175. Dr. Salk didn't have
a Phil Giani working for him.
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he killed Dr. Murdoch
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wanted him out of the picture
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pro-Parkinson's?
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should have given him credit
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on his last paper.
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disagreed.
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Giani work now?
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stature...
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out of the business.
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you can't go home again?
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through undergrad.
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around anymore to bad-mouth you?
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197. 'Cause I'm too good
a researcher.
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199. So, uh, what's the
best way to get uptown
during rush hour?
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hES cell transference
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201. or blastocystic
trophectoderm removal
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to stem cell research?
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day onSesame Street.
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was your idea?
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wasn't ideas...
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a lot to talk about
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way to get downtown.
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little pompous schmuck.
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comes into the school
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Murdoch's research.
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for himself.
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about an "ordinary" guy.
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that you do all the work
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biochemistry for money.
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go into it for?
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in the Macy's parade.
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absolutely nothing to you.
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230. Blastocystic removal?
The wave of the future, right?
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what it heard.
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ask your opinion
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he was right.
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I'm wrong— Einstein argued
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no personality.
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want to whup your ass.
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255. Thanks.
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My kind of scientists.
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from the female
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to break into fragments.
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three of these
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brain alone.
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like a jigsaw puzzle.
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any kind of a match?
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indicated a clear
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to the two slugs
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the other three?
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from a different
nine-millimeter.
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Mrs. Murdoch was killed
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only five bullets?
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ambidextrous or...
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I highly doubt it.
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revenge killings
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doing stem cell research.
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abortion doctors, don't they?
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about Stuyvesant.
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285. Maybe they meant the lab
and not the college.
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if Murdoch's lab
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has been removed.
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a jolt of electricity
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it's all reprogrammed
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one and 200 new cells.
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the stem cells for our studies.
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cure Parkinson's?
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296. Parkinson's
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who knows what else?
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became a political hotbed.
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some nasty letters
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checked them out.
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to check them out, too.
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of research, Dr. Murdoch.
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305. "It is wrong
in the eyes of God.
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306. You will be judged."
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for Professor Murdoch.
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310. Murder isn't just
a sin, Mr. Scott
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312. Look at the name on the wall,
Detective.
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to prove a point.
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in your organization
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weren't enough.
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have sent that letter.
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is the creation of life
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of destroying it.
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325. Anyway,
this letter was sent before.
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Dr. Murdoch
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or his research.
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from Murdoch's lab
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creating life in that dish.
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he said new cells.
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more cells drinking a beer.
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when that cell hits the egg
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the start of life.
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are people, too.
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people, don't they?
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Murdoch was either
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about his research
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are lying to us.
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not killers.
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do it, odds are
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mistakes along they way.
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goes to answer it. Why?
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hubby was there.
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one expecting guests.
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to answer the door...
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walks him all the way
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was to kill him
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right away?
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to kill the wife.
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361. Nobody ever
had a cross word for Louise.
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You called her Louise?
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called her "professor."
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the people, huh?
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a guest list
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the day after she was murdered.
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she called them.
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was the last thing she served.
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actually.
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professors?
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they talk about?
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Jennifer.
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Jennifer Taylor?
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returning these books.
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some research.
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for her book?
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and sources mostly.
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the guest list for Dr. Murdoch's
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group...
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planned for that night?
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to discuss
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that was her thing lately—
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Middle Eastern countries.
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for years to raise funds
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the local Muslim men.
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receiving literature
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quoting the Koran.
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women around the corner
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about suffrage
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country?
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just voting rights.
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their disobedient wives.
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intelligence compared to men."
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of Wife Beaters"?
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the return address
label, Mr. Mogazi.
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Talk to the kid.
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that nonsense from my store.
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it, why did you let him?
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know about it
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comes here
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and her picket sign.
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a college professor?
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her crazy friends.
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and now she leaves me alone.
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does he have an address?
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must be some mix-up.
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for Mousah Salim.
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438. No mix-up.
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talk to him?
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like normal teenagers.
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puts a towel on his head
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the Koran at breakfast.
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I read theRazor's Edge
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for two months.
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you got over it.
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never change.
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454. You know what we spent
on private school?
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455. Straight C's.
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456. Couldn't have gotten
into a decent college
if he wanted to
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457. which he didn't.
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458. He's been nothing
but a disappointment.
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459. Something wrong?
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460. The police.
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461. Looking for Greg.
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462. You're in the
wrong hemisphere.
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463. I told them.
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464. What, the Pakistanis
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465. don't want him
around, either?
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466. Actually, we thought that he
might've witnessed a murder.
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467. Greg, do something useful?
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468. You've definitely got
the wrong kid.
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469. Well, all in all
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470. I'd say that's
a pretty good alibi.
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471. Yeah, unless he got
sick of falafel
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472. and decided to come home
ahead of schedule.
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473. What, and forgot
to tell his parents?
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474. If she was my mom,
I'd forget, too.
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475. I got Customs
looking into it.
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476. So, you're thinking
we've got another
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477. John Walker Lindh
on our hands?
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478. Yeah, only this one actually
may have pulled the trigger.
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479. Hey, somehow, some way
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480. this kid is connected
to the killers.
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481. Well, maybe someone helped him
with his conversion.
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482. Greg is highly intelligent
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483. but had trouble fitting in.
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484. I'm sure you know the type.
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485. Yeah, I read about them
in theColumbine News.
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486. No, no,
he wasn't like that.
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487. Sure, he got picked on
every now and then
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488. but he certainly
wasn't one for retaliation.
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489. He just sat back
and took it?
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490. Well, he did act out once.
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491. He and another boy were
caught on campus one night
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492. setting fire
to a garbage can.
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493. Who was this other kid?
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494. I can dig out
the disciplinary report
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495. but I do remember he wasn't
a student at Strickland.
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496. Michael's not here.
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497. I'm his sister.
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498. Where are your parents?
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499. Who do you want
to talk to?
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500. My dead mother
or my convict father?
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501. Is this your brother?
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502. Yep.
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503. The dog was right.
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504. Look, whatever's
going on with Michael
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505. I'm the parents now,
you can talk to me.
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506. Hey.
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507. Hey!
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508. Here you go.
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509. You know, if you were on
your way down to the precinct
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510. we can give you a ride.
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511. You know what this is,
Michael?
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512. It's a ballistics report
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513. and it says that the gun
that we found outside
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514. the Murdochs' townhouse
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515. is the gun that killed
Hugh Murdoch.
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516. Now, this one, this is
from our forensics lab.
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517. Now, if your fingerprints
are found on that gun...
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518. it means that this
isn't going to one of
your better days, kid.
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519. I don't know
what you mean.
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520. Two people are dead, Michael.
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521. You killed one of them.
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522. Now, we're guessing that your
friend killed the other one.
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523. Which one?
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524. That's what we want you
to tellus.
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525. Time's up.
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526. Gina Sparrow, Esquire.
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527. I've been retained
by Mr. Sanchez's sister.
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528. You should know better.
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529. Questioning this kind of suspect
without his lawyer present.
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530. We didn't know he had one.
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531. And exactly whatkind
of suspect is he?
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532. You want us to leave.
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533. That would be nice.
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534. So, is this guy
as dumb as he seems?
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535. There's no way this kid
is the brains behind all this.
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536. Did you reach the D.A.?
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537. Well, she's willing to play.
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538. Here we go.
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539. Now, speaking hypothetically,
what if Michael
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540. had a partner?
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541. We'd be shocked.
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542. Would the D.A. work with us?
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543. If Michael gives us
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544. a name, they'll give
two counts of Man Two.
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545. Running concurrently?
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546. If he gives us a location.
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547. Michael's partner was
a boy named Landen.
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548. Greg Landen.
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549. He was the one
who shot Mrs. Murdoch.
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550. I guess he really did
get sick of falafels.
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551. Docket Number 26775.
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552. People v. Greg Alan Landen.
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553. My name is Mousah Salim.
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554. Derek Greer for the defense,
Your Honor.
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555. Waive reading.
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556. Plead not guilty.
No, I plead
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557. nothing— I'm not
asking you for anything.
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558. You have no authority
over me.
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559. Tell that to the gentleman
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560. with the service revolver.
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561. Question of bail?
Remand, Your Honor.
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562. This defendant is a flight risk.
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563. He murdered two people
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564. shortly after
returning
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565. from four months
in Pakistan.
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566. You lyingQabeha!
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567. Looks like he wasn't there
to sightsee.
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568. Well, listen to you.
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569. You don't even try
to hide your disdain
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570. for Islam.
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571. My disdainisn'tfor Islam, pal.
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572. Defendant is remanded
to the Department of Corrections
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573. Allah Akbar.
withoutbail.
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574. Allah Akbar.
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575. I am a slave to Allah.
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576. Allah Akbar.
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577. Allah Akbar.
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578. I am a slave to Allah.
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579. I just got called a name
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580. I don't even know
what it means.
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581. Oh, you're going
to love this guy.
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582. That bad?
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583. Greg Landen could make
our new D.A. pack his bags
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584. and head back to Georgia.
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585. I don't think
Lilian would let him.
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586. Lilian?
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587. Mrs. Arthur Branch.
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588. She loves the smell
of concrete.
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589. Always has
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590. always will.
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591. I didn't know
you were friendly with him.
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592. Bar Association dinners.
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593. Nice fellow.
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594. And his politics?
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595. Nice fellow.
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596. Hello.
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597. Sure. Tell him
I'll be there
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598. in an hour.
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599. Well, I'm going to meet
your Mr. Landen.
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600. Care to come along?
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601. I've alreadyhadthe pleasure.
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602. For reasons
that should be obvious
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603. I'd like to make this one
go away.
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604. And for those
same reasons
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605. the best I can do is
two counts of Man One
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606. sentences to run
consecutively.
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607. That's hardly a bargain.
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608. This infidel doesn't speak
for me.
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609. Quiet, Greg.
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610. This prosecution is part
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611. of America's crusade
against Islam.
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612. I want a lawyer
who sees that.
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613. I want a Muslim lawyer.
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614. It's dilatory, Arthur.
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615. If every time
his lawyer does something
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616. he doesn't like,
he fires him
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617. we might not get to trial
for a decade.
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618. And he'll be
off the street
all that time.
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619. The Sixth Amendment
guarantees his
right to counsel.
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620. Let him choose
whoever he wants.
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621. I think there's another issue
we should consider.
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622. What if Landen was indigent
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623. and Greer was
court-appointed counsel?
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624. Could Landen then reject him
on the basis of religion?
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625. Uh-oh.
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626. I feel the old "bad
precedent" speech
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627. coming on.
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628. Well, that would mean
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629. that a skinhead could
reject a Jewish attorney.
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630. A rapist could
reject a woman.
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631. The Constitution
requires only
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632. that counsel
be competent.
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633. It doesn't say that
he and his client
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634. have to be
best friends.
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635. Thank you.
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636. Martha Stewart is the Queen
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637. of Domestic Tranquility.
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638. Right now, I'm not sure
I'd want her near my kitchen.
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639. No offense,
but that analogy isn't
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640. even in the right ballpark.
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641. Why not? There's a lot more
to competence
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642. than a law degree
and modicum of courtroom skill.
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643. A defendant and
his attorney
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644. need to be able
to communicate.
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645. There should be at least
a touch of trust between them.
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646. You better watch out,
Arthur
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647. or they'll take back
your invitation
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648. to the strict
constructionist's ball.
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649. You see, that's where
you don't understand me, Jack.
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650. It's my job to put that son
of gun behind bars.
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651. The last thing
I want to do for him is
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652. gift-wrap grounds
for reversible error.
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653. Mr. Branch's office.
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654. Jack, it's for you.
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655. McCoy.
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656. Yes.
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657. Sure.
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658. That was Anwar Mohammed.
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659. He's just been retained
by Greg Landen.
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660. He wants to meet me for coffee.
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661. Oh, to be young
and to have parents
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662. with a bulging bankbook.
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663. We already tried
to cut a deal with Mr. Landen.
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664. I know.
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665. Couldn't we work
out something
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666. with no prison time?
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667. A mental facility,
perhaps?
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668. I'm sorry.
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669. You've known me
a long time, Anwar.
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670. You know the political climate
played no part
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671. in my decision.
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672. Maybe it should.
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673. The boy's one step
from a terrorist.
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674. I'm sure things
haven't been easy
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675. for you this past year.
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676. It's been a terrible year
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677. but when people need you
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678. somehow your
ethnicity disappears.
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679. And those
who don't need you?
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680. I don't need them.
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681. Well, Jack, if
it's any consolation
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682. I'll do my best to
keep Greg's rhetoric
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683. to a minimum
in the courtroom.
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684. Have you met him yet?
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685. Yeah.
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686. And that's why he's getting
nowhere near the stand.
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687. Believe me, I don't want
his religious beliefs
in the courtroom
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688. any more than you do.
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689. I'm representing
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690. Greg Landen
because he needs my help.
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691. But please don't ever confuse
his politics with my faith.
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692. And why did you go
with Mr. Landen
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693. to the Murdochs' home?
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694. Greg told me the
Murdochs had more money
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695. than they needed.
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696. He said if we took some,
we could go away.
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697. Where would you go,
Mr. Sanchez?
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698. The mountains.
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699. Greg said we could
do some fishing
and some hunting.
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700. It sounded like fun.
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701. What happened
when you got inside
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702. the Murdochs' townhouse,
Mr. Sanchez?
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703. The man took us into this room
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704. and then Greg told me
to shoot him.
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705. And you did?
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706. Yeah.
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707. There was a
lot of blood.
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708. What happened next, Mr. Sanchez?
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709. A woman came in,
and she started screaming.
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710. And she tried to run away,
but Greg shot her.
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711. Then I got scared,
so I ran.
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712. You didn't steal anything?
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713. No.
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714. I guess we forgot.
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715. Only one murder weapon
was found.
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716. Do you know whose fingerprints
were on it?
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717. Yours.
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718. Only one person was seen running
from the Murdochs' house.
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719. Do you know who it was?
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720. You.
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721. Greg was there, too.
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722. But nobody saw him.
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723. How do you explain that?
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724. I don't know,
but he was there.
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725. He shot the lady,
and then ran the other way.
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726. It was all his idea.
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727. I guess it's a good thing
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728. you made a deal
with the District Attorney
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729. or we wouldn't even have
yourword for it.
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730. This isn't
what I told you to do.
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731. You tell them
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732. about the U.S.
aggression.
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733. Not now, Greg.
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734. You tell them about
the U.S. government's
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735. crusade against Islam.
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736. Sit down.
They're trying
to wipe us out.
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737. Your Honor...
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738. 3,000 killed on
September 11.
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739. Quiet down, Mr. Landen.
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740. And 20,000 killed
in Afghanistan.
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741. Your taxes pay for the bombs
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742. that kill Afghani children.
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743. You're out of order, Mr. Landen.
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744. You're the terrorists.
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745. They want me
to shut up.
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746. That's why
they're trying
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747. to put me in prison.
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748. Only they can't send me
to Cuba like the others.
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749. They can't treat an American
like a caged animal.
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750. Remove the defendant
from the courtroom.
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751. I'll see counsel
in chambers.
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752. Oh, so you can talk
behind my back?
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753. This trial is a sham!
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754. Give him a Valium.
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755. What do I care?
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756. I'm afraid it won't be
that simple, Your Honor.
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757. It appears the only way
to maintain any semblance
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758. of decorum is
to remove the defendant
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759. from the courtroom.
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760. Is that an on-the-
record motion, Mr. McCoy?
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761. Yes, Your Honor, it is.
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762. Well, the last time
I read the Constitution
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763. all criminal defendants
have an absolute right
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764. to confront their accusers.
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765. Not only the well-behaved ones.
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766. The state will provide
a television hookup
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767. so he won't miss a word
of the proceedings.
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768. I'm sure you'd like
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769. to add your two cents,
Mr. Mohammed.
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770. Actually, Your Honor,
I'm not going
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771. to oppose Mr. McCoy's motion.
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772. What happened to representing
your client zealously?
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773. I feel it would best
serve his defense
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774. if he weren't permitted
to disrupt the proceedings.
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775. Please bring the defendant
into my chambers.
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776. We should least get his opinion
on the matter.
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777. You know, thereisa way
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778. to put an end to all this.
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779. My client won't accept a deal,
Your Honor.
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780. Let me explain
what's going on, Mr. Landen.
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781. Mr. McCoy would like me
to keep you
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782. out of the courtroom.
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783. To be equitable
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784. I'd be willing
to give you another chance.
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785. Do you think
you can contain yourself?
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786. Yeah, if he
would do his job.
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787. From where I'm sitting
on the bench
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788. Mr. Mohammed is doing
an excellent job.
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789. No. His job is to do
what I tell him to do.
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790. I want him to
use my real name
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791. and I'd have him tell the jury
about how
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792. the American government's
framing me because I'm Muslim.
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793. There's no attorney
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794. in the country
that would argue that.
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795. You know what? Fine.
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796. Fine.
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797. That kid is
an idiot savant.
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798. Or just an idiot.
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799. Don't fool yourself.
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800. He just out-lawyered
our office's own counsel
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801. and the judicial branch.
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802. For us to win a motion
denying his request
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803. for self-representation,
the court would have to find him
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804. unfit to represent himself.
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805. Well, he is 19
and without any legal training.
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806. To quote the Bard:
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807. Ignorance often turns out
to be the best defense.
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808. If he's found unfit
to represent himself
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809. he could also be found
legally incompetent
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810. to stand trial at all.
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811. The proverbial corner,
Ms. Southerlyn.
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812. That's what our friend
has painted us into.
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813. So what you're saying is
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814. we're not going to oppose
his motion?
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815. Look at the bright side—
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816. the judge ordered Mohammed
to stay on as stand-by counsel.
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817. Which could be a good thing
or a bad thing.
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818. Just to be safe,
let's have one of our shrinks
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819. in the courtroom.
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820. Welcome to the corner, Serena.
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821. We want to talk to you
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822. and Professor Murdoch
about her protest
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823. of the El Anbar bookstore.
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824. I only know what I read about it
in the Stuyvesant paper.
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825. I ran this through
a Kaylemetrics
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826. 5500 spectrograph.
Copy !req
827. By comparing pitch
Copy !req
828. trajectory of vowel formants
and nasal resonance
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829. I was able to locate
two distinct voices.
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830. And were you able
to identify those voices?
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831. Well, the second voice,
I can't identify.
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832. I can only assume it belongs
to Hugh Murdoch.
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833. And the other voice?
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834. Uh, it's the defendant's.
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835. Are you sure?
Yes.
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836. Uh, it was a perfect match,
with voice samples
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837. taken from the defendant,
post arrest.
Copy !req
838. What does that indicate?
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839. Well, that Mr. Landen was
in the Murdoch's house
Copy !req
840. within minutes of the shootings.
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841. Thank you.
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842. This machine that you said
you used—
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843. it's owned by
the U.S. government, right?
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844. Uh, City of New York, actually.
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845. And if you wanted to,
you could fake a recording?
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846. Uh...
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847. Well, I suppose I could
Copy !req
848. but, uh...
Are you Jewish?
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849. Objection.
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850. Overruled.
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851. Your Honor...
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852. Arguably,
it goes to bias.
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853. As a Jew, isn't it
your mission in life
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854. Objection!
to destroy
the lives Muslims?
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855. You hate Muslims, don't you?
Copy !req
856. Sidebar, Your Honor.
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857. Your Honor, these
questions are bigoted
and have no relevance.
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858. I'm inclined to agree,
Your Honor.
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859. However, Mr. Landen does have
a right to his opinion.
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860. He's got a point,
Mr. McCoy.
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861. Pro se defendants are permitted
extra latitude.
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862. I show you People's Five,
and ask if you recognize it.
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863. I understand
this is difficult
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864. but you are under oath,
Mr. Landen.
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865. Yes, it's my gun.
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866. And is it the only gun
that you own?
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867. No, I have another
nine-millimeter
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868. a SIG Sauer.
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869. Where is that gun now?
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870. I don't know. It's...
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871. missing.
Copy !req
872. Who do you think
took it?
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873. Seek to treat
the witness as hostile.
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874. Go ahead.
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875. You think your son took
your guns, don't you?
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876. I couldn't say.
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877. Well, how about this?
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878. Where do you keep the weapons
in question?
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879. In my study,
in the bottom drawer.
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880. Which is locked?
Copy !req
881. Mr. Landen?
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882. No. It wasn't locked.
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883. Did you ever cheat on your wife?
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884. Objection.
Relevance.
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885. How can the jury believe
a word he says?
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886. He's an adulterer.
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887. Marital infidelity
doesn't bear
Copy !req
888. on witness credibility,
Mr. Landen.
Copy !req
889. Ask a different question.
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890. Why didn't you have
any more children?
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891. Your Honor...
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892. Because you didn't even want
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893. to have me, did you?
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894. Objection.
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895. Sustained.
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896. You're embarrassed by me!
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897. That's why you're trying
to put me away.
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898. You want me in jail
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899. so that you never have
to see me again.
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900. That's not true. I love you.
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901. How does it feel
to sell out your own son?
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902. Hmm?
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903. America's been trying
to destroy Islam for years.
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904. It sides with the Jews
against the Palestinians
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905. because America is
a Judeo-Christian country.
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906. Since 1990, it has occupied
our holy lands in Saudi Arabia.
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907. American women walk around
with their faces uncovered
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908. in our holiest city.
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909. America doesn't respect
any culture but its own.
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910. Your Honor, is any of this
relevant?
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911. Let him talk,
Mr. McCoy.
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912. It's his right.
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913. You think that your way
is the only way
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914. and feel that you have the right
to invade anyone who disagrees—
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915. Bosnia, Somalia, Iraq.
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916. You try to assimilate the world.
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917. America is a country
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918. that was born out of the
mass murder of Native Americans
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919. and built on the backs
of Africans.
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920. If the Native Americans
could've defended themselves
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921. by flying planes into buildings,
don't you think they would've?
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922. If the slaves could've freed
themselves by becoming martyrs
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923. don't you think
that they would've?
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924. And it wouldn't
have been terrorism...
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925. it would've been self-defense.
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926. So killing a woman who
challenges your view of Islam
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927. is self-defense?
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928. I didn't kill her,
Michael Sanchez did.
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929. How did he get
your father's gun?
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930. I don't know.
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931. Why would Michael Sanchez
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932. target an advocate
for Muslim women?
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933. It was a robbery;
you heard him say that.
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934. But you're not sad she's dead.
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935. She didn't know
her place.
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936. Quran4:34 says Allah made men
superior to women.
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937. Under your perversion
of the religion.
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938. See, this is what
I'm talking about.
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939. Any religion that Americans
don't understand
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940. they call perverted.
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941. If we could get back
to the homicides
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942. Mr. McCoy.
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943. Yeah, go ahead, Mr. McCoy,
go ahead.
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944. Listen to the lady.
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945. Excuse me?
No, I won't.
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946. I will not allow a female
to judge me.
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947. That's enough for today.
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948. We'll pick it up
tomorrow, 9:30.
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949. From what I saw
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950. he's nowhere near
legally insane.
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951. Just your garden variety
fanatic fundamentalist.
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952. If this had been
about politics
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953. he probably would've
become an anarchist.
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954. If it was about music
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955. he could've gotten into
grunge and heavy metal.
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956. He picked religion
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957. specifically Islam,
for a specific reason.
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958. Adolescent rebellion.
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959. No, he could've
bought a motorcycle
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960. or pierced his tongue.
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961. People who become
fundamentalists do so because
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962. there's a part of the dogma
that resonates with them.
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963. There's something
in their psyche
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964. that draws them
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965. to a distorted interpretation
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966. of an otherwise
legitimate religion.
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967. There's a sect for every nut.
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968. Exactly.
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969. But what is it
about militant Islam
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970. that Landen finds
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971. so appealing?
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972. Sanchez shot Hugh Murdoch.
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973. Landen shot his wife.
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974. "Allah made men
superior to women."
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975. My guess
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976. is he is terrified of women.
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977. Militant Islam
eases that anxiety
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978. by making women subordinate.
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979. Landen became a slave of Allah
because he couldn't get a date?
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980. I'm not saying
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981. it's as simple as that, Jack.
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982. But I did see how
he reacted to Judge Borke
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983. and I saw how his mother
reacted to him.
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984. So Mommy made him do it?
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985. She walked
out on him.
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986. Castration hurts whether
it's surgical or emotional.
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987. He can't confront
his mother directly.
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988. I think he's scared to death
of women, period.
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989. And what would happen if a woman
challenged him, literally?
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990. You're talking about
Louise Murdoch?
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991. I'm talking about Serena.
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992. Your Honor,
with the court's permission
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993. Ms. Southerlyn will continue
with the cross examination.
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994. That's fine with me.
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995. How are you feeling today, Greg?
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996. I can get you a glass
of water, if you like.
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997. I'm fine.
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998. I'm sorry, that's right,
I wouldn't want to be party
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999. to you violating any of
your vows of self-sacrifice.
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1000. Religion is not meant
to be easy.
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1001. Like duringRamadan
when a man is drawn
closer to God
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1002. by disregarding
his earthly needs.
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1003. And what's the other one,
Shuha...?
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1004. Shuhada.
Right.
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1005. That's it.
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1006. The prayer before you give
your life for God.
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1007. It's an honor to die for Allah.
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1008. And Allah wanted
Louise Murdoch dead?
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1009. She defied his will.
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1010. So, whoever actually
pulled the trigger
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1011. would be the true slave to Allah
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1012. and should be honored
to accept the consequences
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1013. of that act, is that correct?
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1014. Yet you keep denying it.
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1015. Is that because you're scared
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1016. to accept
those consequences?
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1017. Scared of theShuhada?
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1018. You are just like Murdoch.
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1019. You're both enemies to Islam.
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1020. She poisons women against men.
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1021. She has killed her unborn child
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1022. and serves liquor
in her home.
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1023. So you shot her in the back.
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1024. You don't have to say
that, you know.
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1025. No, you were great, Serena.
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1026. You cracked him like a walnut.
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1027. He didn't actually crack.
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1028. Don't be so sure of that.
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1029. Landen said in court
that Louise Murdoch
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1030. had killed her unborn child.
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1031. I thought that was
just part of his rant.
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1032. What if Louise Murdoch
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1033. didhave an abortion?
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1034. How would he know?
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1035. And how would he know
about her open-door policy
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1036. or the fact that
she threw parties
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1037. where alcohol
was served?
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1038. How could he possibly
know about any of that?
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1039. He knew her.
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1040. Anyone that gets
into Louise's office
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1041. has to get by me first.
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1042. And you never saw her
with Greg Landen?
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1043. I've been following
the trial.
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1044. Believe me, if I
recognized the S.O.B.
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1045. I would've
called you guys.
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1046. Maybe one of her students...
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1047. She wasn't teaching
this semester.
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1048. But she did have some students
helping her research the book.
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1049. Anyone who went
to Strickland Academy?
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1050. You should've
come forward, Jennifer.
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1051. I didn't know it had
anything to do with me.
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1052. Denial's a wonderful thing,
isn't it?
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1053. Murdoch was your friend.
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1054. And that's why...
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1055. I prayed it had
nothing to do with me.
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1056. Well, why don't you
tell me what you do know.
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1057. Greg and I were friends.
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1058. But that was way before
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1059. he got into the
whole Muslim thing.
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1060. Did you tell him
about Louise Murdoch?
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1061. Maybe there was a little
hero worship going on.
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1062. She got me excited
about women's rights.
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1063. She opened my eyes
to what was going on
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1064. in some Muslim countries.
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1065. And you opened Greg's eyes.
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1066. I guess.
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1067. Once I even dragged Greg
to dinner with her.
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1068. Are you saying that
you two were involved?
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1069. Sure...
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1070. I guess.
If you could even call it that.
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1071. What exactly does that mean?
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1072. We've already
been through this.
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1073. I'm not accepting
any of your deals.
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1074. You're not here as
a defendant, Mr. Landen.
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1075. I asked you here
in your capacity
as your own counsel.
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1076. We want to call a witness
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1077. that wasn't on our
initial witness list.
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1078. Call whoever you want.
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1079. I don't care.
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1080. I appreciate your amenability,
Mr. Landen.
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1081. Legally, you're entitled
to question her
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1082. before she takes the stand.
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1083. We both know that's going
to be a waste of time.
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1084. This is our additional witness,
Mr. Landen.
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1085. Jennifer Taylor.
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1086. I think you know
each other.
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1087. How could you, Greg?
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1088. Did you do this because of me?
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1089. Think about it, Greg.
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1090. Think about what Jennifer
will say on the stand...
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1091. in front of your friends,
the press...
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1092. your mother...
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1093. the whole world...
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1094. Shut up!
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1095. Shut up!
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1096. You shut up!
'Cause I am a man!
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1097. I am a man, no matter what
she says about me.
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1098. Okay?
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1099. You laughed at me.
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1100. You laughed.
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1101. (quietly):
You shouldn't have laughed.
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1102. Well, at least
at his allocution
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1103. Landen apologized to the
entire Muslim community.
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1104. Olivet was right,
he wasn't a true believer.
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1105. He was just
a humiliated adolescent.
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1106. All in all, I'd say
we're damn lucky
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1107. this was just one
screwball kid.
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1108. An angry kid full of rage,
just looking for a target.
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1109. Isn't that what
a terrorist is?
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1110. What's scary is how easy
it is to create one.
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