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A god.
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happy to be a part of it.
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Harlem World, The Movement.
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- Yo, what's up?
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How you doing?
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Crucial Conflict, Do or Die,
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self-made entertainment.
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Deric Angelettie, Mad Rapper,
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- Let's see.
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- Black Star.
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coming from Chi-Town.
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some remarkable shit as usual.
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- What's up?
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- I'm telling you…
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- R. Kelly, nigga.
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- Straight-up.
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- This shit better rock it.
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we're making a deal, right, baby?
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- Oh, shit.
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400. Yeah, you're fucking touching.
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403. But even though
the A&R at Capitol wanted to sign Kanye,
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404. the heads of the label
held the power to make that decision,
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405. and they didn't think
a producer-rapper could sell records.
Copy !req
406. Like 3H, Mos Def and Talib Kweli
thought that Kanye was next up.
Copy !req
407. So, to me,
it made perfect sense to try to get a deal
Copy !req
408. with the same label
that they were signed to, Rawkus Records.
Copy !req
409. And their A&R, Ali,
saw Kanye as a great fit for their roster.
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410. Mr. West.
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412. You're that next nigga, man,
because what you got…
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413. You got a combination
of street, high fashion…
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414. You got a combination,
you dig what I'm saying?
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415. And it's a spirit.
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416. Naturally, you're not a Roc-A-Fella nigga,
you know what I mean?
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417. There's a certain energy that goes
and I'm not saying it's good or bad,
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418. but it is what it is.
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419. It's a better written record
than what Tribe was doing.
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420. And they was doing the best shit.
To me, you got the same energy.
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in they cars all day, all night long.
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422. And it's street enough
to catch the hardcore niggas
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423. it's hip-hop enough
to catch the hip-hop niggas.
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426. Ali saw Kanye's potential,
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427. but he still needed to convince
his bosses at Rawkus Records
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428. to take a chance on him.
Copy !req
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on where he might end up,
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433. To get a CD I gotta send out to DMX.
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434. Don't hold his hairstyle
against him though, y'all.
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- On Candid Camera?
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436. What's going on?
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- Yeah.
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438. He wants to come through.
I guess he wants a few beats.
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and rhyme for you and whatnot.
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what you want to do as far as that.
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if it's possible to get these tracks,
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443. I guess, without putting any money down.
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444. What?
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447. It's impossible.
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thinking they gonna rhyme for me.
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450. - The demo shit.
- I'm not gonna share my beat.
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452. This is like, you go into a TV store
and you be telling a nigga,
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454. "So, motherfucker? I still sell TVs."
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455. They won't give you a TV for free
'cause you watch TV the best.
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456. - Like, you know what I'm saying?
- All right.
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457. If this nigga don't get this beat,
I'm grabbing this shit.
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458. - What up, dawg? Twenty premium.
- Give 'em that?
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459. - Who, DMX?
- Yeah.
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- Right.
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- How...
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when you do your tracks?
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I'll just write to sample ideas and shit.
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467. I'mma start making up new beats,
like with my guitar player and my singer
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468. that sings exactly what I want to say.
Copy !req
469. People gonna be like,
"Where did you get that sample?"
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470. It's gonna be saying real exact shit.
It's gonna sound just like a '70s record.
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472. That's the next level,
where I'm gonna push the game.
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474. Damn, I shouldn't say that
in an interview.
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475. You should have.
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476. Niggas gonna be like,
"Yo, I'mma do that too."
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480. For a year.
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481. In this year's time that I come out here,
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482. I did a lot of good things.
It's really been a blessing.
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484. I had the hustle in me so much,
it was so cooped up,
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485. but I got the opportunity out here.
Copy !req
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487. I was the type of nigga,
I'd be out here broke.
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488. One time,
I was in the studio with Lil' Kim.
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489. I was out here broke.
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490. I couldn't afford to get in a cab.
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491. They told me Sean wanted me
to play some beats.
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492. This shit was, like, 20 blocks away.
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493. I ran to the studio,
'cause I ain't want 'em to leave
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494. before I got a chance
to play 'em some beats.
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495. I was hungry, man. I am hungry, dawg.
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496. Motherfuckers always talk about,
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497. "What I got.
This nigga, he got this, he got that."
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498. Niggas don't realize I ain't nowhere near.
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499. I might be living y'all American dream,
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500. but I'm nowhere near
where my dream is, dawg.
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501. Man, I got aspirations.
I got big dreams, motherfucker.
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502. All this shit is remarkable to me.
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503. So it's like the Roc and Rawkus.
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504. That's exactly what I am.
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505. I'm, like, definitely
the gap between both of that.
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506. I'm just as much Roc-A-Fella
as I am Rawkus.
Copy !req
507. - You know?
- Right.
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508. Dame Dash, man,
Dame Dash ain't no wack nigga, man.
Copy !req
509. And then Jay-Z is not just a rapper.
Copy !req
510. Jay-Z is an icon. He's a mogul.
Copy !req
511. You could be under Jay-Z
and still be big as hell.
Copy !req
512. People don't wanna be under a rapper
Copy !req
513. when they feel like
they really are a star,
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514. which I feel like I am,
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515. but I'mma take advantage
of my opportunities, man.
Copy !req
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517. Man, if people serious
about doing what it is I do…
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518. It's a lot of people, man,
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519. be asking for handouts.
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520. It's like they point fingers.
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522. 'cause I wouldn't
give 'em a beat for free.
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523. Think about it, the mentality.
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524. Niggas got a 40 acres and a mule complex,
feel like the world owe 'em something
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526. Just go out and work for your shit.
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527. I wasn't born
with a silver spoon in my mouth.
Copy !req
528. Motherfuckers be like,
"That nigga grew up in the suburbs."
Copy !req
529. Nigga, I stayed on 79th Street
till I was in high school, nigga,
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530. then I moved to 119th.
Copy !req
531. And I was never in the suburbs,
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532. I was on 87th Street,
you know what I'm saying?
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533. I wasn't in the street
shooting motherfuckers
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534. 'cause I was determined.
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535. I wanted to fucking make it in music.
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536. You gonna hold that against me
'cause I ain't kill nobody?
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537. Nigga, I'm a rapper.
I'm a motherfucking MC, dawg.
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538. I'm a storyteller, man. I'm a songmaker.
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539. I create it, man.
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540. The music, dawg, is me, man.
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541. It ain't representation or nothing else
Copy !req
542. but what I live every day, you know?
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543. I'm a motherfucking rapper, dawg.
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544. Like, I'm…
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545. Man, like, I'll be out…
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546. Before I had my car,
I used to be walking to the train,
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547. practicing my Grammy speech.
Copy !req
548. Yo, can I use the word "fruition"
in the, um… In the article?
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549. I forgot to use it.
That's my new word, fruition.
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550. Some dreams coming to fruition.
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551. Yeah, I'll put it in there.
I got it.
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552. As bad as Kanye
wanted to be in the spotlight,
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553. the music industry
was looking for the next Jay-Z.
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554. The next DMX.
Copy !req
555. At times, it felt like he was just
another face in the crowd.
Copy !req
556. Even though he was standing
so close to his dreams…
Copy !req
557. it still felt so far away.
Copy !req
558. But Kanye,
he wouldn't take no for an answer.
Copy !req
559. What up?
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560. What up, Kanye? You all right?
Copy !req
561. Five, four, three…
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562. Right now, I hear Jay-Z's…
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563. - "Izzo."
- "…Izzo."
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564. We didn't even cue it like that.
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565. Oh, my goodness!
Copy !req
566. This man right here, Kanye West.
He produced the track.
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567. Kanye was interviewed on MTV
about his production.
Copy !req
568. "H to The Izz-O",
this is the song that saved my life
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569. It was dope seeing him get on TV,
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570. but I knew what he really wanted
Copy !req
571. was a feature on their show,
You Hear It First.
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572. Because for an up-and-coming artist,
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573. that kind of shine
could change everything.
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574. - Kanye West.
- Hi. Lisa.
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575. I like your necklace.
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576. Uh, I'm trying to get a You Hear It First.
It's a couple people.
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577. Are you in touch with Sway at all?
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578. Uh, yeah. I did a couple for his artists.
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579. Okay, cool, yeah.
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580. Yeah, 'cause Sway, I mean,
he's got an in there at MTV News.
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581. - Yeah.
- I could talk to some people too, man.
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582. Yeah.
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583. That was a nice track
you played the other day, uh…
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584. That was you rapping on it.
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585. I was surprised.
I was like, "Who's that?"
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586. You're like, "That's me."
I'm like, "What?"
Copy !req
587. - Kweli said I can get up and rock tonight.
- Nice, nice.
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588. Kweli! Kweli! Kweli!
Kweli! Kweli! Kweli! Kweli! Kweli! Kweli!
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590. Kweli!
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591. Kweli!
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592. In case y'all don't know,
he did "H to The Izz-O."
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593. He did "Takeover."
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594. He did "Guess Who's Back."
He did "Good to You."
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595. He did Mos Def's album.
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596. Give it up for my nigga Kanye West.
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597. Yo.
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598. Now, Kanye,
y'all also don't know my man got skills.
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599. He's a rapper, he's on my new project.
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600. Can we let my man bust a verse?
Copy !req
601. What's up, Kanye?
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602. Live and in person,
we're here choking this nigga.
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603. Scream, nigga. Put this on the Internet.
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604. I don't like Chicago. It's cold.
Copy !req
605. - What?
- Beautiful. It's cold in Chicago.
Copy !req
606. Don't ever say you don't like the Chi.
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607. I don't like the weather in the Chi.
Copy !req
608. Mos, you can spit a piece
of that "Two Words"?
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609. Boy!
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610. Oh, that's… That's me and K West.
Copy !req
611. Oh, shit.
Copy !req
612. Despite the support
of Mos and Kweli,
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613. the heads at Rawkus Records
ultimately decided not to sign Kanye.
Copy !req
614. You know how bad I wanted you, boy.
Copy !req
615. I wanted you over there with us.
Copy !req
616. With Kanye's talent,
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617. I thought the move to New York would
make it easier for him to get a deal.
Copy !req
618. But now the only hope he had left
was back at Roc-A-Fella Records.
Copy !req
619. I don't know if y'all realize
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620. how long I been spittin' or the fact
that I'm actually talking about something.
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621. I'm not just sitting on a beat
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622. trying to emulate
what other rappers is hot out.
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623. But y'all gonna understand it in a minute.
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624. Things started looking up again
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625. when MTV agreed to give Kanye
that feature on You Hear It First.
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626. His name is SpongeBob SquarePants.
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627. That's his whole thing.
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628. We live at MTV, man.
Copy !req
629. Not only
did they want to cover Kanye,
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630. but the producers wanted to use
my footage for the segment.
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631. Coodie working shit on the MTV.
Copy !req
632. It was the first time I realized
that my camera could help Kanye's career.
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633. Beautiful.
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634. I don't like Chicago. It's cold.
Copy !req
635. - What?
- Beautiful. It's cold in Chicago.
Copy !req
636. So when Chicago's
top radio station, WGCI,
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637. invited Kanye to their music conference,
Copy !req
638. it was the perfect opportunity
to get more footage for MTV
Copy !req
639. and show the world where we come from.
Copy !req
640. Where we at?
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641. We at the Hyatt Regency
in my hometown, um…
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642. You know, it feels good to be home, man.
Copy !req
643. Damn! Them rooms ain't really shit, huh?
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644. I'mma show y'all some shit, man.
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645. Look.
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646. They got all these different names.
They got Hip-Hop, P Diddy,
Copy !req
647. Um, Dave Mays.
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648. But then, this is what killed me.
Copy !req
649. It say producers, right?
They got Jermaine Dupri.
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650. That's my dawg right there,
Steve "Silk" Hurley.
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651. Kanye. Now, who the fuck is Kanye?
Copy !req
652. I specifically told them.
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653. They said, "What's your stage name?
Your professional name?"
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654. Kanye West.
Copy !req
655. Then I heard the commercial.
They was like,
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656. "Featuring Chicago's very own Kanye."
Copy !req
657. So I call 'em, I was like, um…
Copy !req
658. "Why does it say Kanye
and not Kanye West?"
Copy !req
659. It's like if you was in Atlanta like,
"At the party, Jermaine."
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660. Like… My name is Kanye West.
Copy !req
661. And they told me, it's like, um…
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662. "Well, everybody call you Kanye."
Copy !req
663. That's when you at the crib, yo.
That's the crib.
Copy !req
664. That's how you know me at the crib.
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665. "Nigga, you ain't Kanye West to me."
Copy !req
666. "Your name Kanye, your name Ye."
This should've been like, "Ye."
Copy !req
667. "Chicago's very own Ye."
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668. They don't even recognize me.
Copy !req
669. "Nigga, you came
from the fucking crib and…"
Copy !req
670. I'm just complaining
in the midst of some good shit.
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671. It's a good thing that I'm at the GCI
seminar and I'm finally on the panel.
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672. I used to sneak into the panels…
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673. This is the most beautiful
city in the world right here.
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674. I mean, niggas don't even know
how I wish I could've just…
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675. stayed here my entire life and somehow…
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676. Somehow made something happen,
you know what I'm saying?
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677. I been trying to produce
since 7th grade, dawg.
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678. You know what I'm saying,
I put my time in.
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679. This my, um, MTV You Hear It First.
Copy !req
680. Big Coodie.
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681. What's up, y'all?
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682. I used to do my own fades and shit.
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683. And that is something
you can't beat.
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684. I feel like we're merchants.
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685. And the aspiration to do your own art,
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686. expound on your own was something
we didn't have. We have it now.
Copy !req
687. Our chokehold on American culture
should allow us to move everywhere.
Copy !req
688. How are you doing?
Copy !req
689. Go Getters coming through.
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690. It's Kanye West, y'all.
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691. This is the hottest new producer.
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692. Did, uh, half of Jay-Z's album,
like five joints on The Blueprint.
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693. Much love to my man.
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694. My man Kanye West's documentary
doing the damn thing,
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695. opening up for Chicago producers.
Letting niggas know.
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696. I wouldn't be where I'm at
if it weren't for these people.
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699. Now let me share my love…
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700. We got to share the story.
I had to save them for last though.
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- Um…
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702. Hold on.
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703. We gonna bring it back
to when I used to come over to Jay-Chill.
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704. - Back when I was 14 years old.
- Thirteen.
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705. Oh, shit.
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706. Your mom was my English teacher
at Chicago State. Donda West.
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707. Big up.
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708. She told me she got her son
some equipment
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Copy !req
710. That's how it went.
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711. You got to be around some good people.
Who was you around?
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714. Man, you know we ain't had
no bunch of rappers in Chicago.
Copy !req
715. We were around a bunch of niggas
that were finna get signed…
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716. They still finna get signed!
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718. I own the joint and I'm one of 'em.
Copy !req
719. I'm Dug Infinite.
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720. My man Kanye West documentary,
Copy !req
721. got a lot of love for him,
one of the best producers in Chicago.
Copy !req
722. I've been knowing him
since he 13, doing his thing.
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723. He opened it up. He opened it up.
Copy !req
724. We're gonna make some good records
and we're gonna have some fun.
Copy !req
725. No matter what happens after this date
and no matter what's said after this date,
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726. you see the root of everything
we're doing here
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727. is based and founded on
business and love.
Copy !req
728. So believe that, all the time.
Copy !req
729. Home is where
you learn how to love.
Copy !req
730. Early on, it was Dug Infinite
Copy !req
731. and one of Chicago's
most recognized producers, No ID,
Copy !req
732. who taught Kanye how to make beats.
Copy !req
733. No ID,
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734. he got the beats. He got the phat tracks.
Copy !req
735. Dug Infinite, working on something.
Copy !req
736. I'm chilling out in Chi-Town.
Copy !req
737. But as I watched Kanye blow up,
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738. we both soon learned that that love
can sometimes turn into hate.
Copy !req
739. You on the B-side with Teefa.
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740. We just had a… historic moment…
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741. Turn it up.
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742. Dug, man.
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743. We want to clear some things.
We want to know who that was directed to.
Copy !req
744. Kanye came up with us,
and I was responding to an article in XXL.
Copy !req
745. I didn't like some things he said.
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746. I felt it was disrespectful to me,
Copy !req
747. and I made a record to tell the truth.
I want people to know the truth.
Copy !req
748. Family got to keep it real
with family sometimes.
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749. And Kanye might be through
to speak on what he want to speak on.
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750. Uh-oh.
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751. GCI.
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752. Dawg.
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753. Why nigga's got a diss record
on me already? What the fuck?
Copy !req
754. Dug Infinite!
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755. One of the niggas that taught me
how to make beats.
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756. I saw him today.
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757. The nigga's talking on the documentary,
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758. "Yeah, I came up with the nigga…"
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759. I be talking to the nigga all the time.
Hold on one second.
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760. Now he gotta song talk about…
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761. Niggas only fuckin' with me
'cause Jay-Z rapping on my beats.
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762. Like my beats wasn't cold before.
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763. They in the studio right now.
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764. Two blocks away from where you at.
Copy !req
765. - That's them niggas there.
- Y'all want to confront 'em?
Copy !req
766. - This is hip-hop, man.
- It come with the territory.
Copy !req
767. This won't be easy.
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768. When you say certain shit,
you held accountable for it, man.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
770. niggas gonna hold me accountable
on the block.
Copy !req
771. I said that "Dug Infinite
put me on" in a magazine
Copy !req
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Copy !req
773. And you make a song dissing me
because XXL didn't print it?
Copy !req
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Copy !req
775. The magazine you said
No ID helped you with your style, man.
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776. You know I was there.
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777. Nigga, I told the magazine.
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778. I don't want to be x-ed out
of the history or the city.
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779. Dawg, you was history in this city, man.
Copy !req
780. And I felt like for years,
man, I always took your side.
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781. When No ID was being funny with you,
when niggas was not talking to you.
Copy !req
782. - I always...
- You need a hug, man.
Copy !req
783. - I always went...
- You need a hug.
Copy !req
784. Nigga need a hug.
You need a hug too, Coodie, man?
Copy !req
785. Hello.
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786. Yo.
Copy !req
787. No, I know them niggas.
It ain't like on the streets.
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788. No street shit, man. I said that.
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789. - Nah, dawg.
- I'm real.
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790. I ain't on that, dawg.
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791. I ain't gonna cut you, man.
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792. You in a position, man.
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793. You know what I'm saying?
Let me… Let me…
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794. King of the hill. When you on top,
everybody wanna knock you down.
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795. Or get up there with you.
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796. Ain't about to run up on a nigga.
I ain't talkin'.
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797. Not me.
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798. That's the love, start with the game.
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799. We just got through talking about this
in his living room in Jersey.
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800. Like, dawg, it finna come.
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801. Get ready.
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802. With all the rejection
Kanye went through in New York,
Copy !req
803. it was crazy to come home and see him
get dissed in front of the whole city.
Copy !req
804. Especially by somebody he looked up to.
Copy !req
805. Every time I get out,
they drag me back in.
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806. In spite of it all,
Copy !req
807. Kanye had the chance
to tell his side of the story.
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808. Go ahead.
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809. Here we go.
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810. Come down to this mic.
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811. I see you peeved, man.
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812. You on my bad side, Coodie, man.
Come over here, man.
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813. 1075, WGCI,
number one for hip-hop and R&B.
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814. You on the B-side with your girl Teefa.
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815. I got my man Kanye West
in the studio right now.
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816. Say "what's up" to the people.
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817. What up? What up, Chi-Town?
Copy !req
818. Me and Just,
Copy !req
819. as far as on the beats,
Copy !req
820. we the producers that everybody
try to mimic or copy.
Copy !req
821. And what's so crazy about that
is I originally got that style…
Copy !req
822. I went over to No ID's crib
when I was like… 14.
Copy !req
823. He was like,
"You could sample records sped up."
Copy !req
824. He did that for Common Sense's
first album, so it was a Chicago style.
Copy !req
825. Then when No ID thought
I was too much of a pest,
Copy !req
826. I end up going over Dug Infinite crib.
Copy !req
827. You know what I'm saying?
Copy !req
828. He end up showing me
how to make beats.
Copy !req
829. Everything that you hear,
Copy !req
830. it comes with the turf,
with the territory.
Copy !req
831. It's, uh… It's like…
Copy !req
832. I'm not gonna touch on that that much,
Copy !req
833. but I'mma tell Chi-Town like this.
Copy !req
834. Me and Dug is a lot closer
than what y'all think.
Copy !req
835. So if y'all looking at the record,
that's just a record.
Copy !req
836. I feel like I'm just breaking down
the barriers for everybody.
Copy !req
837. I'm up here still doing beats for dudes
that I knew since I was, like,
Copy !req
838. sixteen years old and 15 years old.
Copy !req
839. At the end of the day, man,
Copy !req
840. I don't owe nobody nothing
except for my mother, you know?
Copy !req
841. Well, you definitely clarifyin'.
Copy !req
842. - What's been floatin' around.
- It's a lot I gotta clarify.
Copy !req
843. Y'all got me wrapping up, man?
Copy !req
844. How you gonna wrap me, dawg?
You can't wrap me up.
Copy !req
845. We'll come back to you.
Copy !req
846. Check it out, we gonna get you
a chance to clarify…
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847. After the love Kanye
got at the seminar,
Copy !req
848. we never thought the trip
would take the turn it did.
Copy !req
849. Leaving the station,
I thought he handled it well.
Copy !req
850. But still, I knew it had to hurt.
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851. Kanye?
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852. Yeah, Mom. There's company with me too.
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853. Why you don't start bringing
your key with you home?
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854. I forgot it.
Copy !req
855. - How you been?
- Okay, how you doing?
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856. Yeah.
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857. It's cold in here.
Copy !req
858. You all cold?
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859. Well, no...
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860. Welcome, I mean.
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861. Um, what's your name?
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862. - Coodie.
- Coodie?
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863. Oh, okay. I'm Donda. What's your...
Copy !req
864. - I've met you before.
- Yeah.
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865. - This is my mom.
- Yeah.
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866. Kanye, you look good.
Oh, I haven't seen this.
Copy !req
867. This is really… Now, Kanye, I like this.
Copy !req
868. - You like it?
- This is nice!
Copy !req
869. Ooh.
Copy !req
870. Oh, I really like this, Kanye.
Copy !req
871. Look, y'all.
Copy !req
872. Now this is a true
bachelorette pad right here.
Copy !req
873. This is reduced fat milk, man.
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874. Got the Zinfandel, White Zinfandel.
Copy !req
875. Oh, don't film
in the refrigerator,
Copy !req
876. ain't nothing in it.
Copy !req
877. Kanye, that's really…
I'm so glad you got that one.
Copy !req
878. Because when I was in New York
you know what I was thinking?
Copy !req
879. It was like, "Oh, Kanye, you went
and got another piece of jewelry."
Copy !req
880. "You haven't even bought a house."
Copy !req
881. - This is worth not getting a house?
- Yeah.
Copy !req
882. There'll be houses out there.
This is nice.
Copy !req
883. There'll be houses…
Copy !req
884. Isn't it?
Copy !req
885. - That is nice. That is beautiful.
- Very unique.
Copy !req
886. And you know what? You need an angel
to watch over you, so it's all good.
Copy !req
887. You the man.
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888. We ain't always used to have this view.
Copy !req
889. No, no.
Copy !req
890. It wasn't like this on 79th.
Copy !req
891. When I was three years old.
Copy !req
892. I like the way you, uh, explained
everything about how long
Copy !req
893. it takes people to…
What was that, like, uh…
Copy !req
894. Jay-Z to write a rap.
And Scarface too, wasn't it?
Copy !req
895. Yeah, and how they do.
Copy !req
896. All Jay does is basically
record songs in five minutes,
Copy !req
897. and then he makes rappers
come to the studio
Copy !req
898. and just play the songs and is like,
"Look what I did this week."
Copy !req
899. - Eighteen songs."
- All of his songs?
Copy !req
900. Yeah, he'll play his songs over and over,
loud, like ear-piercing volumes.
Copy !req
901. Then he started going in the other room.
I said, "Yo, hold."
Copy !req
902. I gotta play you one more beat."
Copy !req
903. And the way it was, it was awkward.
Copy !req
904. If I played him a wack beat at this time,
Copy !req
905. it would have been too awkward.
Copy !req
906. 'Cause he was like…
this is the last song he gonna play.
Copy !req
907. Like, "Dawg, I'll play you one more beat."
Copy !req
908. So I put it on.
Copy !req
909. He start bobbing his head.
Copy !req
910. Then he looked over, he tapped me.
Copy !req
911. That's what he said? He knew...
Copy !req
912. He knew he had a hit right then.
Copy !req
913. He got up.
Copy !req
914. Ooh!
Copy !req
915. "Ooh, that's it!"
Copy !req
916. - "That's why you get the big bucks."
- Right.
Copy !req
917. We had to figure out what to say
in between, so it's…
Copy !req
918. And then he said…
Copy !req
919. He looked at me and said…
Copy !req
920. I was like…
Copy !req
921. "Mom, we about to blow up.
We finna blow up."
Copy !req
922. You know the one I used to
always try to get you to do.
Copy !req
923. - You never did it. What's that?
- What?
Copy !req
924. Something about reward, remember?
Copy !req
925. I rhymed "hard" with "reward"?
Copy !req
926. - Yeah.
- That's a good rhyme.
Copy !req
927. You did. I said, "Keep on going.
It's a million dollars."
Copy !req
928. Everything you'd do,
I'd say, "That's a million dollars."
Copy !req
929. Yeah, and we still haven't made a million.
Copy !req
930. I like this… But you could…
Copy !req
931. But that first line was really good.
Copy !req
932. Um…
Copy !req
933. Uh… Ahh!
Copy !req
934. - I forget the…
- Once I had the words too.
Copy !req
935. But now, you not walking down the halls.
Copy !req
936. You talking
about College Dropout.
Copy !req
937. I don't know
if that's going to be the title.
Copy !req
938. I told you that they doing
a You Hear It First
Copy !req
939. on me on MTV, right?
Copy !req
940. You told me you were gonna try.
Copy !req
941. - They said they doing it.
- They are?
Copy !req
942. They're gonna use this footage.
Copy !req
943. All right. That's good, Kanye.
Copy !req
944. This is so exciting hearing it. I love it.
Copy !req
945. Yeah, can you believe it?
Copy !req
946. I can believe it, the way you are.
Copy !req
947. Somebody gotta agree.
Copy !req
948. You play tracks
like Michael Jordan shoots free throws.
Copy !req
949. Anybody that does something that much
and that long and is that good…
Copy !req
950. It's gotta pay off.
Copy !req
951. You can't go over there
and do nothing but blow up.
Copy !req
952. - Yeah. Yeah.
- Isn't that so?
Copy !req
953. The main thing is you gotta do something
that you really love to do.
Copy !req
954. I was thinking about something
Copy !req
955. I was gonna say to you
that I thought was important.
Copy !req
956. How you were down-to-earth and everything,
but you have a lot of confidence
Copy !req
957. that come off a little arrogant
even though you're humble,
Copy !req
958. but it be important to remember that
Copy !req
959. the giant looks in the mirror
and sees nothing.
Copy !req
960. You know what I mean?
Copy !req
961. So you think I come off too arrogant?
Copy !req
962. No. Come off just right
'cause of what's inside
Copy !req
963. because you can't be a star
and not be a star.
Copy !req
964. You've got to have some oomph about you.
Copy !req
965. Don't wanna just go say,
Copy !req
966. "Oh, I'm just really not all that,
but thank you anyway."
Copy !req
967. Nothing like that.
I'm not saying come off like that.
Copy !req
968. I think the way you are,
handle yourself, is really just…
Copy !req
969. Perfect.
Copy !req
970. But at the same time that you remember…
Copy !req
971. Like, to stay on the ground,
Copy !req
972. you could be in the air at the same time.
Copy !req
973. That's what I think it means
when it says,
Copy !req
974. "The giant looks in the mirror
and sees nothing."
Copy !req
975. Everybody else sees the giant, you know?
Copy !req
976. - Right.
- Mm-hmm.
Copy !req
977. I know… I feel like…
Copy !req
978. Kanye bringing us
to his mom's house,
Copy !req
979. that felt like the real reason
we came to Chicago.
Copy !req
980. She had this special way
of lifting his spirit,
Copy !req
981. of giving him the love
and guidance he needed.
Copy !req
982. It was easy to see the confidence
Kanye had in himself…
Copy !req
983. was because of the confidence
Donda had in him.
Copy !req
984. She even made me feel like family.
Copy !req
985. - Toast the cameraman.
- Toast. All right.
Copy !req
986. Salud.
Copy !req
987. We went back
to New York inspired.
Copy !req
988. And Kanye,
Copy !req
989. he was more determined than ever
to lock down that deal with Roc-A-Fella.
Copy !req
990. Hook me up
with a little something back there.
Copy !req
991. This is Kanye, right?
This you, right?
Copy !req
992. He got the second verse on it.
Copy !req
993. I like this.
Copy !req
994. Back in Jersey, Rhymefest,
an artist out of Chicago,
Copy !req
995. was collaborating with Kanye
on a song called "Jesus Walks."
Copy !req
996. I remember thinking I never heard
a rap song like this before in my life.
Copy !req
997. And Kanye thought, if he could get
a legendary rapper like Scarface
Copy !req
998. to do the hook on it,
Copy !req
999. that can help seal the deal
with Roc-A-Fella.
Copy !req
1000. Don't step out front of that car.
Copy !req
1001. - I'll be right back.
- Aight.
Copy !req
1002. - All right, G.
- Is this The Making of Kanye?
Copy !req
1003. They got a You Hear It First
on me on MTV.
Copy !req
1004. - They got who?
- You Hear It First on MTV.
Copy !req
1005. For you?
Copy !req
1006. That goddamn Kanye be
pulling rabbits out the hat, man.
Copy !req
1007. That beat right there?
That song right there? Man.
Copy !req
1008. What's going on now?
Copy !req
1009. Chi Town. Chi Town.
Copy !req
1010. Thank you for coming through.
I know you were busy.
Copy !req
1011. - Huh?
- I know you was busy.
Copy !req
1012. - Appreciate you coming and grabbing me.
- For sure.
Copy !req
1013. Find something else.
Copy !req
1014. Can you stop it real quick?
Copy !req
1015. That's hard, man.
Copy !req
1016. - But you can do that chorus though?
- Yeah, I can...
Copy !req
1017. That's a hard one for me.
Copy !req
1018. Let me try to get a hands-free.
Copy !req
1019. Try that one.
Copy !req
1020. This song right here
called "Family Business."
Copy !req
1021. Wait, you got a rhyme on this already?
Copy !req
1022. I wanna hear you rhyme.
Copy !req
1023. The concept of the song
is "Family Business."
Copy !req
1024. So, you got…
Copy !req
1025. Incredible.
You got all three verses on that?
Copy !req
1026. I only got one verse.
Copy !req
1027. Go to the next one.
Copy !req
1028. I like "Family Business."
This came out good.
Copy !req
1029. Man, what the fuck is this right here?
Copy !req
1030. Um, my retainers.
Copy !req
1031. Man, that shit don't go out there, man.
Copy !req
1032. That shit been all in your mouth and shit.
Copy !req
1033. Them the only two I got on there,
"Jesus Walks" and this.
Copy !req
1034. Yeah, that was the shit, man.
Copy !req
1035. Yeah, that shit is mean.
Copy !req
1036. Which joints
you want me to put on a CD?
Copy !req
1037. It don't matter.
Copy !req
1038. Even though Scarface
never made it back to record,
Copy !req
1039. getting validation
from one of the best rappers alive
Copy !req
1040. was more encouragement for Kanye
to keep moving forward.
Copy !req
1041. That's some dope-ass footage.
Copy !req
1042. When we spin "Family Business" for 'Face,
that nigga say, "Incredible."
Copy !req
1043. And with MTV ready to do
his interview for You Hear It First,
Copy !req
1044. we knew that kind of publicity
could get everybody talking.
Copy !req
1045. I look big on TV.
Copy !req
1046. Okay.
Copy !req
1047. America, y'all had to see me.
Copy !req
1048. Gonna have to get used to this face.
Copy !req
1049. Ain't that what everybody say?
Delete that.
Copy !req
1050. "Get used to me,"
Copy !req
1051. and you don't see him next year.
Copy !req
1052. Do you feel like
you being from Chicago,
Copy !req
1053. is that like, do you think
that's to your advantage?
Copy !req
1054. There's very few MCs
coming out of Chicago.
Copy !req
1055. Man, I feel like
Copy !req
1056. coming from Chicago
is definitely an advantage.
Copy !req
1057. I feel like everything
Copy !req
1058. that anybody ever said in life
would be a disadvantage to me,
Copy !req
1059. I'mma make it my advantage.
Copy !req
1060. When I was playing basketball,
everybody said I was too short.
Copy !req
1061. I'm killing 'em with the scoops.
Copy !req
1062. Everybody say, "You can't rap
'cause you a producer."
Copy !req
1063. Okay.
Copy !req
1064. "Oh, I ain't hear that beat."
"Yeah, I produced it."
Copy !req
1065. I rapped on it
before you got a chance to hear it.
Copy !req
1066. Like, I'mma use everything
that everybody says that I can't do,
Copy !req
1067. and I'mma flip it to the positive.
Copy !req
1068. Like, I look at everything
as a glass half-full than half-empty.
Copy !req
1069. I'mma stand for everything
I seen in my life,
Copy !req
1070. and I'mma try to express that
to y'all the best I can.
Copy !req
1071. And I feel like I'm creative enough
Copy !req
1072. that I'mma make it work, you know?
Copy !req
1073. I know nobody has ever
stood up and said, "Yo, man,
Copy !req
1074. let me actually show you
that there's more than one side to me."
Copy !req
1075. I don't know if I really believe
in that Gemini stuff,
Copy !req
1076. and the constellations and all that.
Copy !req
1077. Like, I really believe in God, like…
Copy !req
1078. But I know that there's more
than one side to me.
Copy !req
1079. I know on one end,
Copy !req
1080. when I get a check-in,
sometimes I'm like,
Copy !req
1081. "Yo, man, I'm finna go and get this
Copy !req
1082. chain off layaway from Jacob's right now."
Copy !req
1083. I know that I'll go to church
with my grandparents
Copy !req
1084. and really try to hear what the Word is,
Copy !req
1085. or what they trying to tell me
or really try to understand
Copy !req
1086. about religion or what do I want to pick,
so I'm confused as a Black man.
Copy !req
1087. A lot of times, artists come into
the aspect that they not confused
Copy !req
1088. about who they are,
and you always hear about,
Copy !req
1089. "Man, I loved the album,
but she a hypocrite or he's a hypocrite."
Copy !req
1090. Well, I guess that's like
anti-hip-hop, right?
Copy !req
1091. Because hip-hop was always
about frontin', always acting like…
Copy !req
1092. I feel like
that's the Black mentality because
Copy !req
1093. since we ain't had nothing,
then we get a little something,
Copy !req
1094. we've got to show it to prove something.
Copy !req
1095. It's like the concept of
walking in the store,
Copy !req
1096. you look like a shoplifter
unless you got something on.
Copy !req
1097. You feel like you gotta wear jewelry
to get the same service.
Copy !req
1098. I say in a rap, "Getting green
make you almost white."
Copy !req
1099. I feel like my album,
Copy !req
1100. the perspective that I'mma speak from,
Copy !req
1101. I feel like I'mma bridge the gap.
Copy !req
1102. I'mma be one that helps
bridge the gap with hip-hop.
Copy !req
1103. I'm trying to get where I could drop
my last name off my name, you know?
Copy !req
1104. Seriously. Like…
Copy !req
1105. I don't wanna jinx myself,
but I'mma take this opportunity.
Copy !req
1106. Like, I got some songs,
I got some stuff in my heart
Copy !req
1107. that the world need to hear.
Copy !req
1108. If I do what I'm supposed to do,
people gonna look back like, "Man…"
Copy !req
1109. "Dude, remember, you used to
just make beats for people?"
Copy !req
1110. Ever since I moved to New York,
Copy !req
1111. the thing that struck me most about Kanye
was how much he believed in himself.
Copy !req
1112. He fought every day
to get others to believe, too.
Copy !req
1113. And now, with You Hear It First,
Copy !req
1114. it felt like the world
was gonna have to listen.
Copy !req
1115. I'm feeling a little bit overwhelmed
by this whole shit.
Copy !req
1116. Even just standing here.
Copy !req
1117. They don't know.
Copy !req
1118. I bet you he don't know me either then.
Copy !req
1119. They all listen to Flex.
Copy !req
1120. They're gonna do a You Hear It First
on your boy, wack-ass me.
Copy !req
1121. You know what I'm saying?
Copy !req
1122. Kanye, you in one of
those magazines they selling?
Copy !req
1123. That XXL you in, I think!
Copy !req
1124. Ooh.
Copy !req
1125. I'mma let a secret about me, dawg.
Copy !req
1126. I'm, um…
Copy !req
1127. I got a little addiction, man.
Copy !req
1128. You might have to cut this off.
Copy !req
1129. Let me get that Black Tail, right there.
Copy !req
1130. - Eight dollars, man.
- How much?
Copy !req
1131. - Eight dollars.
- Eight dollars? God damn, bro!
Copy !req
1132. That right there?
Copy !req
1133. When I came out here,
I came to Newark,
Copy !req
1134. I hadn't even seen
my apartment or nothing.
Copy !req
1135. I just knew I had to be
where niggas was making it happen.
Copy !req
1136. See that? You got to get the act
to look good.
Copy !req
1137. You gotta have
the dramatic music for that.
Copy !req
1138. I'll never forget the night
Copy !req
1139. when Kanye told me he got the call
that was going to change his life.
Copy !req
1140. Because of his drive, his persistence,
Copy !req
1141. Dame Dash was finally ready
to make his record deal official.
Copy !req
1142. I can't believe I got
a fucking deal though.
Copy !req
1143. That we even sitting here right now.
Copy !req
1144. Ain't gonna
be like this next month.
Copy !req
1145. We ain't gonna be sittin' here
like this next month.
Copy !req
1146. That shit is fucking amazing.
Copy !req
1147. Coming from Chicago,
Copy !req
1148. we knew that nothing in life
was given to you.
Copy !req
1149. You can get in where you fit in,
or you can make room.
Copy !req
1150. After all this hard work,
Copy !req
1151. it felt like our stars were finally
beginning to align.
Copy !req
1152. - It's a good day.
- Beautiful day.
Copy !req
1153. So, I'm Allison.
Copy !req
1154. Nice to meet you.
Copy !req
1155. Good to meet you.
Copy !req
1156. - JB.
- Hey. Nice to meet ya.
Copy !req
1157. - The man with the camera.
- Coodie.
Copy !req
1158. - And I'm Kanye, good to meet you.
- Good to meet you.
Copy !req
1159. You read everything? You understand it?
Copy !req
1160. And you agree to be bound
by the terms of the agreement?
Copy !req
1161. Sign there.
Copy !req
1162. Man, dawg.
This is a beautiful thing right now.
Copy !req
1163. Man, I see a lot of people
in this room, like,
Copy !req
1164. that I couldn't have made it
to this point without.
Copy !req
1165. And, uh, I just signed
with Roc-A-Fella Records as an artist.
Copy !req
1166. And Dame said
the joint coming out this year,
Copy !req
1167. and my first single got Mos Def,
Freeway and Harlem Boys Choir on it.
Copy !req
1168. Kanye was now officially
a part of the Roc-A-Fella family.
Copy !req
1169. And with Jay-Z and The Dynasty
tour heading to Chicago,
Copy !req
1170. we knew we had to be there.
Copy !req
1171. I signed with Roc-A-Fella Records.
Copy !req
1172. - Huh?
- I just signed with Roc-A-Fella.
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1173. You ever heard of Roc-A-Fella?
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1174. With Damon Dash?
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1175. Yeah.
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1176. - You know Dame Dash? You know Dame Dash?
- Huh?
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1177. Me and my crew,
we just got finished making a movie.
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1178. Pray you got all of that.
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1179. - Yeah.
- 'Bout two weeks ago.
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1180. This look like Coodie.
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1181. Everybody,
this look like Coodie, look.
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1182. Damn, that is him.
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1183. - That is Coodie.
- Look at you.
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1184. Let me see it.
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1185. Better get something to eat, please.
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1186. Yeah, I do like…
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1187. Go again.
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1188. Something like that.
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1189. Okay.
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1190. Yeah, I do like that.
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1191. - Scoot your feet, like he, uh…
- You should be in the video.
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1192. That was Jay-Z and the other stuff.
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1193. You know, that video already made.
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1194. You know, it's old.
We workin' on a new video.
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1195. What's the new video?
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1196. It's yours, it's Kanye West's video.
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1197. - Okay.
- Okay, can I get some change?
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1198. Come see it.
Give me something to eat.
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1199. God bless you, baby.
Thank you. For real.
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1200. Yeah, okay. For real. Yeah.
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1201. - Hey.
- Hey!
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1202. - How you doin'?
- I'm all right.
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1203. - Kinda chilly out here today.
- Oh, yeah, Windy City.
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1204. Yeah.
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1205. Mama West said
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1206. you could stay on the ground
and be in the air all at the same time.
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1207. Maybe that's why she took us back
to where everything started.
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1208. Boy, this brings back some memories.
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1209. It's crazy. We must've been so little.
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1210. We used to play football right here.
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1211. We'd throw the ball up
and whoever get the ball,
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1212. you tried your best to kill him.
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1213. I'll show you the bounds
that kill a man.
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1214. You ain't wanna hit this right here…
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1215. or this right here.
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1216. Well, I've definitely cracked
my head on it a couple of times.
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1217. It's crazy how different it looks
'cause it looks…
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1218. It seemed so much bigger than me
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1219. when I used to picture it, you know?
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1220. This right here is, um…
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1221. It used to have that mirror and I used to
just practice, like, in front of it.
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1222. Just doing whatever I wanted to do.
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1223. Yo, our dog, we called him Genius
'cause he could get out of anything.
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1224. We built a pen back there,
but he used to figure how to get out.
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1225. You couldn't just leave him in the pen.
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1226. You gotta pen him up,
put a chain around him.
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1227. - Yeah.
- He's so smart.
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1228. Everybody in our family was smart,
even the dog.
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1229. That's right.
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1230. So you got a bedroom in here?
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1231. Yeah, this is your bedroom.
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1232. Yeah, I could almost… I think I could
touch both of the walls with my hand.
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1233. Do I got some lint on my hair?
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1234. What? Where?
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1235. Oh, yeah, right here.
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1236. How was Kanye coming up?
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1237. You know, Kanye was always
self-absorbed in a way.
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1238. You went to kindergarten from here.
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1239. They picked you up
right across the street.
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1240. And I came to kindergarten one day,
and you looked out in the hall and saw me,
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1241. and you were on the top
of the sliding board, and you said,
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1242. "I don't need you!"
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1243. Do you remember that?
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1244. You did, Kanye.
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1245. You were on every talent show, remember?
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1246. Every talent show, and Kanye
would win all the talent shows.
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1247. But that's why you was so disappointed
when you didn't win that year.
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1248. You got second place
doing a Stevie Wonder.
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1249. - I got no place doing a Steve Wonder.
- You did!
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1250. - Yeah.
- You practiced.
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1251. Yeah, and the thing was, I just…
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1252. Yo, how you gonna do Stevie Wonder
at a talent show?
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1253. You know, Stevie Wonder
only sits at the keyboard.
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1254. So how you gonna lip sync Stevie Wonder?
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1255. That mean for three minutes,
I'm up there like…
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1256. I thought it was good.
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1257. That was good. You even had the braids.
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1258. - I had… It was about…
- And some sunglasses.
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1259. I was just about to…
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1260. I was just about to stand up.
You know how Stevie stand up and…
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1261. I was about to stand up,
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1262. and right when I was about to stand up,
they closed the curtains on me.
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1263. It got to a point where
I knew I was gonna get first place.
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1264. I had to help other people
with they stuff.
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1265. - That's right.
- That's the way it seem right now.
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1266. Like, I know my album
is going to be right.
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1267. Now I got to help other people
with they albums.
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1268. That's good, Kanye.
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1269. Did you think of a name for it yet?
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1270. I should call it, uh…
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1271. I'mma be straight.
I don't know what I'mma call it.
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1272. It's all good.
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1273. Mom, that term is so old.
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1274. Well, you said, "I'm good."
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1275. I'm good, yeah.
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1276. - I'm good.
- Right.
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1277. I don't know. I just wanna say,
like, I appreciate…
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1278. I would like to congratulate you
on the good job you did with me.
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1279. I might take a bit of credit.
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1280. Yeah, it's good.
You get, Mom, a little bit of credit.
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1281. Most of the…
You see, I raised myself, basically.
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1282. Oh, well, Kanye!
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1283. That's how we…
That's how we moved away from here, Kanye.
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1284. - Do you remember?
- I think I was ten.
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1285. Every day, I set up a ramp right there.
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1286. That day, when Donda
took us to their old house,
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1287. I saw first-hand the strong foundation
she built while raising Kanye.
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1288. How much she sacrificed
to provide for him.
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1289. And now, he was living out his dreams.
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1290. Seeing how Kanye came up
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1291. got me reflecting on my own life.
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1292. So before the concert,
I went back to where my journey started.
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1293. I see him.
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1294. Like Donda,
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1295. my parents influenced me in so many ways
that I was just beginning to see.
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1296. I'll never forget when my father
came home with a VHS camera.
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1297. Can you see it good?
Do you need light?
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1298. How my mother filmed the birth
of all my nieces and nephews.
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1299. When I look back,
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1300. at all the signs…
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1301. That is a cut though. Happy Birthday, Ma!
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1302. We outta here. Peace.
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1303. …there was no doubt.
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1304. This was always my purpose.
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1305. I might have left home
to document Kanye…
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1306. I'm just getting some shots
of Daddy playing his game.
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1307. Oh, really?
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1308. …but home is where I learned
the power of capturing timeless moments…
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1309. like these.
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1310. You have to be fresh on this, nigga
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1311. Your own kind of fresh.
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1312. He got the Canada.
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1313. The Canada track, huh?
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1314. This is Kanye West.
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1315. What up?
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1316. - What up with you?
- You all right?
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1317. What up, dawg?
I'm Kanye West, man.
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1318. Yo, dope track.
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1319. Yo, bro. Say something
to my documentary right here.
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1320. - Yo, nigga...
- One of the sickest niggas…
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1321. One of the sickest niggas
that do what he do. Ridiculous.
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1322. Okay. Mm-hmm.
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1323. Hey, Kanye.
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1324. I'll see ya.
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1325. Here you go.
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1326. Kanye bringing the swag.
You gotta step it up.
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1327. How many people here tonight
got that Blueprint album?
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1328. Oh, come on,
shout-out to the rest of the family.
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1329. Watch out.
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1330. Uh-oh.
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1331. Kanye.
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1332. Got some big news for Chi.
You want to tell them?
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1333. You tell 'em.
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1334. Aight.
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1335. I want y'all niggas to know that I'm the
newest member of the Roc-A-Fella team.
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1336. Uh-oh.
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1337. Oh, shit.
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1338. All the Chicago niggas,
I'm putting it down for y'all niggas.
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1339. We're gonna be up here in a minute.
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1340. Come on, y'all.
Give it up for y'all niggas.
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1341. Kanye did it, from Chicago, motherfuckers.
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1342. People used to always ask me,
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1343. why would I stop everything
to start filming Kanye?
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1344. Well, watching his dreams
become reality showed me,
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1345. it showed everyone,
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1346. that when you move in faith,
all things are possible.
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1347. And to think, this was just the beginning.
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1348. You'll be one of the greats.
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1349. Trust, nigga. Next greats.
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1350. Ye West. Hot.
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1351. You need an angel
to watch over you…
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1352. I live and I breathe this shit.
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1353. Kanye West was injured.
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1354. I'm interested in
why you believe all this is happening.
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1355. He was involved
in a car accident
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1356. that left him with a fractured jaw.
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1357. It was like God saying,
"I'm about to hand you the world."
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1358. "Just know, at any time,
I could take it away from you."
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1359. Hi, I'm Gideon Yago with MTV News,
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1360. and a little showcase we like to call,
drumroll please, You Hear It First.
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1361. Our look at an up-and-coming artist
you'll be hearing more from in the future.
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1362. Is there room for a self-proclaimed
backpack rapper
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Meet Kanye West.
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