1. - Who stitched him
into the mural?
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2. - You have an idea who
that might be?
- I do.
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3. - He consults me with cases
if I keep investigating
murders he's accused of.
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4. - Good. It seems
you have an admirer.
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5. - You think someone sent me
in here because they admire me?
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6. - This killer wrote you a poem.
- This is of course Freddie
lounds, who you know.
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7. She will be assisting me today,
or assisting you—
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8. - what have you taken, Bella?
- My morphine.
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9. - Have you seen Jack?
- No. There was some sort
of emergency with his wife.
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10. - If Hannibal's the ripper,
what's he doing with
his trophies?
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11. - Stay away from
Hannibal Lecter.
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12. - You have to eat something,
Jack. You've been up all night.
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13. Feed the body,
feed the mind.
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14. - She knew she couldn't
beat the cancer, so she...
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15. Decided to beat it
to the finish line.
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16. I suppose I can't blame her for
wanting to control how she dies.
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17. - I believe those who
can no longer function
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18. at an acceptable level
have the right to die.
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19. - She cast you
as an executioner.
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20. She wanted
to die.
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21. I can't tell you how grateful
I am that you didn't
allow it to happen.
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22. - As a doctor,
I had no choice.
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23. As a philosopher,
I had too many.
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24. It wasn't what I could do
for Bella, it was what
I couldn't do to you, Jack.
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25. I guess I'm a better friend
than therapist.
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26. - You're a great friend,
Hannibal.
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27. - Send someone else, Jack.
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28. She's one of yours.
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29. - At approximately 9 am this
morning, I received a phone call
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30. from Freddie lounds.
Acting on an anonymous tip,
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31. she discovered a female body,
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32. immediately contacted my office.
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33. I was amongst the first
on the scene.
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34. The victim has been identified
as our colleague,
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35. special agent Beverly katz.
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36. She will be memorialized
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37. at FBI headquarters
and field offices
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38. so that her ultimate sacrifice
will always be remembered.
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39. That's all.
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40. - I want to see her.
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41. - Leave us alone.
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42. Let's go!
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43. - You said you just
interpret the evidence.
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44. So interpret
the evidence.
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45. - I strangle Beverly katz...
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46. looking in her eyes.
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47. She knows me.
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48. And I know her.
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49. I expertly squeeze
the life from her...
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50. rendering her unconscious.
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51. I freeze her body...
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52. preserving shape and form
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53. so I can more cleanly
dismantle her.
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54. She cuts like stone.
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55. I pull her apart,
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56. layer by layer...
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57. like she would a crime scene.
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58. This is my design.
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59. I will leave
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60. no usable evidence,
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61. but she found something.
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62. She found me.
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63. What she found is already gone.
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64. What did I take from her?
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65. - It's the chesapeake ripper.
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66. - It's the ripper
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67. and the copycat.
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68. It's the same killer.
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69. Two masks...
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70. Beverly helped me see it.
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71. - Help me see it.
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72. - She was looking
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73. for a connection between
the copycat and the ripper.
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74. - You think she found it?
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75. - She found something.
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76. Where were you
last night?
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77. - In the hospital.
With my wife.
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78. - I told Beverly
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79. to go to you,
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80. tell you everything she knew.
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81. Instead, she went
looking for evidence.
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82. She met the ripper
last night, Jack.
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83. She...
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84. She will be...
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85. Missing organs.
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86. He had to take
his trophies.
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87. - Who is he, will?
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88. - Beverly made her
connection to the ripper.
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89. You have to make
your own, Jack.
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90. - Then what did I
bring you here for?
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91. - To say goodbye.
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92. - Would you like to talk
about what happened
at the observatory?
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93. - You discussed my therapy
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94. with Hannibal Lecter, Frederick.
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95. Counter to our agreement.
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96. - I gave him a peek before
I snatched down the shades.
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97. - I have appearances
to maintain.
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98. - Beverly katz paid you a visit
before she was murdered.
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99. What did the two of you discuss?
- What, you weren't listening
to that one?
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100. - You met her in
the privacy room.
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101. It is the only room
in the facility I am not
legally allowed to monitor.
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102. - And you let that stop you?
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103. We talked about
the chesapeake ripper.
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104. Then she went and found him.
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105. - Psychopaths can be indifferent
to those sorts of setbacks.
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106. I know something
of the monster
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107. you are
dealing with.
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108. He is a well-
educated man.
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109. A socially competent man.
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110. He has surgical experience or,
at the very least, know-how.
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111. - You thought Abel gideon
was the chesapeake ripper.
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112. - Evidently, I was
wrong about that.
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113. - Gideon knows
who the ripper is.
- And I suppose you do, too.
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114. - Wouldn't it be interesting
if we both said it was
the same man?
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115. - Yes, it would.
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116. - It's a shame we can't
talk to Abel gideon
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117. about the chesapeake ripper.
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118. Well, just think, Frederick,
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119. you could be the one
who catches him after all.
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120. - Beverly isn't
your responsibility.
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121. You should be allowed to grieve.
You shouldn't have to wade
through it.
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122. - We're not running away
from this, Jack.
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123. Beverly wouldn't.
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124. - Good.
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125. - I double-checked
the autopsy report.
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126. What you found at that
observatory wasn't all Beverly.
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127. - What do you mean?
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128. - These kidneys, they were
placed inside her body
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129. after she was killed. I typed
them against DNA samples
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130. and, uh, they belong to the
mural killer. James gray.
- James gray.
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131. So, whoever killed
James gray and sewed him
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132. into his mural also murdered
Beverly. Swapped out
their kidneys.
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133. - Right now, the only thing
we have to go on
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134. is we find her kidneys
and we find her killer.
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135. - Mr. Graham.
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136. You always did look
like the boy next door.
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137. Is it true you ate
that poor hobbs girl?
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138. - You can call me will,
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139. now we're of equal
social standing.
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140. - Is this Frederick's
idea of punishment?
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141. Group therapy with the man
who tried to kill me.
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142. - No. I'd like to talk to you
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143. about the chesapeake ripper.
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144. - Thought I was the chesapeake
ripper.
- No,
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145. you are the pretender
to the throne.
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146. - What did you offer Frederick
to bring me back?
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147. I'm the last person
he wants to see.
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148. I give him a visceral
chill in the guts.
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149. Whatever's left of them.
- You know who the chesapeake
ripper is. You've met him.
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150. - So Frederick gets to catch
the ripper after all.
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151. What do you get?
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152. - I remember that night
at Dr. Lecter's.
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153. The night I brought you there.
- The night you tried
to kill me.
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154. - Yes, how do you think
I found you?
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155. He sent me to kill you, Abel.
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156. - Am I your evidence?
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157. Oh, you're
in trouble,
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158. Mr. Graham.
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159. - Why would you protect him?
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160. - You were quite
happy to try
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161. and kill me yourself.
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162. You have it "in you,"
as they say.
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163. He is the devil,
Mr. Graham.
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164. He is smoke.
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165. You'll never
"catch" the ripper.
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166. He won't be caught.
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167. If you want him...
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168. you will have
to kill him.
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169. - Fair enough.
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170. - You and I are both proponents
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171. of unorthodox treatments
of the mind.
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172. Strategies others might not
choose to understand.
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173. What I'm trying
to understand
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174. is why you would transfer Abel
gideon back to your hospital
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175. for the unworried unwell.
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176. - It was not for
selfish reasons.
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177. - Ah, selfishness.
The original sin of man,
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178. according to judeo-
Christian morality.
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179. - We are not talking about
morality or ethics here,
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180. are we, Dr. Lecter? But rather,
concealing their absence.
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181. - Gideon disemboweled you,
Frederick.
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182. Brave of you, or perhaps wise,
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183. to keep the evidence
of your misdeeds
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184. under your own roof.
- My misdeeds and yours.
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185. - Neither of us
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186. controls our stories well enough
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187. to get anything from exposing
the other's misdeeds.
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188. - Here's to that.
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189. I brought gideon back because...
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190. I thought he may be useful
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191. in will Graham's therapy.
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192. He shot gideon, yet
he has no memory of it.
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193. - We know memories, emotions,
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194. and even spiritual experiences
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195. can be manipulated
while under hypnotics.
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196. - I'm trying to set will
on the path to rebuilding
his broken brain,
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197. picking up your pieces,
as it were.
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198. - You've analyzed my patient;
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199. perhaps you'll allow me
to analyze yours.
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200. I'd like to interview
Abel gideon.
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201. - You don't need
to stand way over there.
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202. I'm a cutter, not a pisser.
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203. - Hello, Dr. gideon.
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204. - Our brains
devote more space
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205. to reading
the details of faces
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206. than any other object.
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207. Dare I say,
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208. I've never seen yours before.
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209. - I'm Dr. Hannibal Lecter.
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210. I was will Graham's
psychiatrist.
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211. - Well, he's not
a very good advertisement
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212. for your abilities,
Dr. Lecter.
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213. - That remains
to be seen.
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214. - Oh,
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215. I bet you're a devil
at the bridge table.
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216. It's a pleasure to make
your acquaintance.
- The pleasure's mine.
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217. Esteem in psychiatric circles
still eludes him,
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218. yet it clings to you
like soap to a baby's eyes.
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219. He very much
wants to be you.
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220. - He should be more careful
what he wishes for.
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221. - And you should have been
more careful with will Graham.
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222. That young man
has got a bone to pick.
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223. - As a therapist, I'm
concerned with finding ways
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224. of overcoming resistance.
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225. Not building it up.
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226. - Well, you
built up something,
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227. Dr. Lecter.
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228. - That was rude, miss lounds.
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229. - Did you really think I was
above that sort of thing?
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230. Hm... you seem
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231. disappointed.
- We evolved
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232. the ability to communicate
disappointment to teach
those around us
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233. good manners.
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234. - Unfortunately, I did not
evolve the ability
to feel shame.
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235. - You should explore
that in therapy.
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236. - I saw a psychiatrist once and
it was under false pretenses.
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237. - Happy to entertain you for
a more genuine conversation.
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238. So, what brings you
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239. to the Baltimore state hospital
for the criminally insane?
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240. - I am interviewing
will Graham.
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241. At his request.
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242. Imagine that.
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243. - I'm trying.
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244. - Do not pass anything but soft
paper. No pens, no pencils.
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245. Do not accept anything he gives
you. Do not let him touch you.
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246. You do not touch him.
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247. I will be right outside.
- I know the drill.
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248. It's good to see you again,
will. Let me rephrase that.
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249. It is good to see you in here.
Where you belong.
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250. - Thank you for coming.
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251. - Why am I here?
- I have an admirer.
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252. And he seems to fit
your demographic.
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253. - My demographic
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254. is murderers and people
obsessed with murderers.
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255. - I'm talking about the man
who killed the bailiff
and the judge at my trial.
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256. - Ah.
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257. And you think he's your admirer?
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258. - He killed the bailiff
to give me an alibi.
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259. He killed the judge
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260. because he threw that alibi out.
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261. - So is your admirer crazy?
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262. - I don't think anybody
as careful as he is
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263. could be crazy.
I think—I think he's different.
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264. Maybe a lot of people
believe him to be crazy,
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265. and the reason for that is,
he hasn't let people
understand much
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266. about him.
- But you understand him.
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267. Are you trying to catch him
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268. or contact him?
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269. - I would like to establish
a line of communication.
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270. And your website
seems like a good place
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271. to do that.
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272. - I could open it up for you.
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273. Ads, editorial,
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274. online chat rooms,
monitoring incoming mail.
I could be discreet.
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275. - In exchange for?
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276. - Exclusive rights
to your story.
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277. - It's all yours, Freddie.
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278. - You want to talk
to your admirer,
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279. we'll have to send
an invitation.
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280. "Sadly, other killers have drawn
inspiration from Graham.
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281. "As he stood trial for his life,
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282. "one such killer
even constructed an ode
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283. "to Graham's grisly techniques.
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284. "Graham believed this man
wanted to help,
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285. "even though his motives
for that are unclear.
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286. "He killed people in his name,
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287. and he'd like to ask him why."
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288. - Would you like
a book, Mr. Graham?
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289. - I have my imagination.
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290. - I read your tattlecrime
interview.
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291. You're a very articulate man.
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292. I agreed with a lot
of what you said.
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293. You're right.
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294. People don't
understand much
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295. about me.
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296. Or about you.
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297. But at least
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298. we understand each other.
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299. There's something
we don't have.
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300. Or maybe we just
evolved not to need.
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301. You were hiding
in the FBI.
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302. That's talent.
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303. If you hadn't gotten sick,
they never would've found you.
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304. - You found a great
place to hide.
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305. - Spend time in
a mental hospital,
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306. you pick up the drill.
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307. You could pass
as an orderly,
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308. get a job doing it
when you get out.
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309. They may never
know you were in.
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310. - Obviously you realize
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311. chilton records
every word said in here.
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312. - Who do you think
wired the mics?
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313. Or unwired the mics,
as they currently are.
- You killed the bailiff
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314. during my trial.
- I thought it would
exonerate you.
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315. I had read your file
often enough.
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316. Easy to recreate
your work.
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317. It was so specific.
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318. Though the bailiff was a bitch
to get on that stag's head.
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319. - And the judge?
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320. - I killed
the bailiff.
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321. The judge was...
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322. Somebody else.
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323. - Why are you trying to help me?
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324. - Have you seen the way
that smaller birds
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325. will mob a hawk on a wire?
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326. You and me, we are
hawks, Mr. Graham.
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327. - Hawks are solitary.
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328. - And that's their weakness.
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329. Enough of those smaller birds
get together, and they chase
hawks away.
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330. Imagine if the hawks
started working together.
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331. Why did you want
to talk to me?
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332. - I need a favor.
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333. - I'm always happy to do
a favor for a friend.
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334. Just say the words.
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335. - I want you to kill
Hannibal Lecter.
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336. - Will?
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337. Hi.
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338. - Hi.
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339. - I'm sorry to drop in
unannounced like this.
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340. - What's on your mind,
Dr. bloom?
- You.
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341. You gave an interview
to Freddie lounds.
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342. You despise Freddie lounds.
It just seemed, um...
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343. - What, suspicious?
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344. - And slightly worrying.
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345. - You don't have
to worry about me.
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346. - I know you feel powerless
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347. about what happened to Beverly,
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348. and you want to do
something about it.
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349. - Would that be so bad?
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350. - Depends on what you're
thinking about doing.
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351. But there's no solution
to grief, will. It just is.
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352. - Beverly died because of me.
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353. Because she listened to me.
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354. I'm not gonna let that
happen again.
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355. - Will, what have you done?
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356. - Just what I had to do.
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357. - What is it about you,
Dr. bloom?
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358. The most sinister
neurochemistry in the field
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359. cannot help percolating
in your presence.
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360. The interesting ones
all fall at your feet.
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361. Will Graham, Abel gideon,
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362. they're chatty as can be.
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363. You are like
catnip for killers.
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364. - I see Abel gideon
has returned to the roost.
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365. - I believe you and I are his
only surviving psychiatrists.
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366. Pulled the tongues
out of all the rest.
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367. - Pulled more than
that out of you.
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368. Have you noticed anything
different about will
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369. since gideon arrived?
- Gideon is here
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370. as part of will's therapy,
helping him reclaim his past.
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371. - Can I see him?
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372. - Dr. bloom—
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373. you are like a flower
blossoming amongst the weeds.
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374. - I'm glad to see you
alive, Dr. gideon.
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375. - Well, Mr. Graham didn't do
a particularly good job
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376. of killing me. He was sick.
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377. And a very poor shot.
- Good enough shot
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378. to get a bullet in you
before you put a blade in me.
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379. - And for that,
I am sincerely grateful.
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380. - Been wondering
about that night.
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381. How do you know
where I live?
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382. - A little birdie
wanted me to kill you.
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383. Or a little birdie
wanted Mr. Graham
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384. to have reason to kill me.
But either way,
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385. you and I are equally
expendable.
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386. - You were trying to find
the ripper that night.
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387. Did you?
- I found will Graham.
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388. - Will isn't
the chesapeake ripper.
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389. - Not yet.
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390. All the things
that make us who we are...
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391. What has to happen
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392. to make those things change?
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393. So much has happened
to Mr. Graham.
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394. He is a changed man.
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395. - Maybe he's looking
for redemption.
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396. - He's not looking
for redemption.
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397. But revenge,
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398. now that is a trinket
he could value.
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399. - He thinks that he knows
who killed Beverly katz?
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400. - For the courtesy
you have always shown me,
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401. I am going to give you a gift.
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402. I'm going to give you a chance
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403. to save will from himself.
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404. - How?
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405. - He is in a biblical
place right now,
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406. but that rage will pass.
And when it does,
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407. will Graham will either be
a murderer or he will not.
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408. Up to you.
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409. - He's institutionalized.
He's really
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410. in no position to be
killing anyone.
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411. - Not with his own hands.
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412. But if he only had
a little birdie
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413. who could whisper murder
into a sympathetic ear...
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414. - Who does he want
to kill, doctor?
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415. - He's not here.
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416. - There's nothing
in his calendar.
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417. What is it you think
will's done?
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418. Hold that thought.
This is Jack Crawford.
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419. Yes. Thank you.
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420. We've got a trace
on his cell phone.
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421. - Judas had
the decency
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422. to hang himself in shame
at his betrayal.
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423. But I thought
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424. you needed help.
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425. Did you know that the phrase
"to kick the bucket" came
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426. from exactly this situation?
You could kick it out right now
yourself and it'd all be over.
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427. Quicker than bleeding out.
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428. - You're a nurse
at the hospital.
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429. You're setting a new
standard of care.
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430. Will Graham is not
what you think.
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431. He's not a murderer.
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432. - He is now.
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433. By proxy.
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434. - He asked you to do this?
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435. - What are friends for?
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436. Now I'm going to ask you
a few yes or no questions
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437. while you still have
enough blood coursing
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438. to answer them. You ready?
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439. - Ready.
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440. - Did you kill that judge?
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441. I can ask you
yes-or-no questions,
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442. you don't have
to say a word,
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443. and I'll know
what the answer is.
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444. The pupil dilates
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445. with specific
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446. You dilate, that's a "yes."
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447. No dilation equals "no."
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448. Are you the chesapeake ripper?
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449. How many times have you watched
someone cling on to a life
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450. that's not really worth living?
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451. Eking out a few extra seconds.
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452. Wondering why they bother.
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453. - I know why.
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454. Life is precious.
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455. - The chesapeake ripper.
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456. I wonder what
they're gonna call me.
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457. You know, the iroquois
used to eat their enemies
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458. to take
their strength.
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459. Maybe your murders
will become my murders.
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460. I'll be the chesapeake
ripper now.
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461. - Only if you eat me.
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462. - Put your hands
where I can see them.
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463. - He's got a gun, Jack!
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464. - Hold on!
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465. Hold on, hold on.
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466. Get an ambulance!
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