1. Who stitched him
into the mural?
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2. - You have an idea who that might be?
- I do.
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3. He consults me with cases if I keep
investigating murders he's accused of.
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4. Good. It seems
you have an admirer.
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5. You think someone sent me
in here because they admire me?
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6. - This killer wrote you a poem.
- This is of course Freddie lounds, who you know.
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7. She will be assisting me today,
or assisting you...
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8. - what have you taken, Bella?
- My morphine.
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9. - Have you seen Jack?
- No. There was some sort of emergency with his wife.
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10. If Hannibal's the ripper, what's
he doing with his trophies?
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11. Stay away from
Hannibal Lecter.
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12. You have to eat something,
Jack. You've been up all night.
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13. Feed the body, feed the mind.
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14. She knew she couldn't
beat the cancer, so she...
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15. Decided to beat it
to the finish line.
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16. I suppose I can't blame her for
wanting to control how she dies.
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17. I believe those who
can no longer function
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18. at an acceptable level
have the right to die.
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19. She cast you
as an executioner.
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20. She wanted to die.
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21. I can't tell you how grateful I am
that you didn't allow it to happen.
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22. As a doctor, I had no choice.
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23. As a philosopher,
I had too many.
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24. It wasn't what I could do for Bella, it
was what I couldn't do to you, Jack.
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25. I guess I'm a better friend
than therapist.
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26. You're a great friend,
Hannibal.
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27. Send someone else, Jack.
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28. She's one of yours.
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29. At approximately 9 am this
morning, I received a phone call
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30. from Freddie lounds.
Acting on an anonymous tip,
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31. she discovered a female body,
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32. immediately contacted my office.
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33. I was amongst the first
on the scene.
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34. The victim has been identified
as our colleague,
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35. special agent Beverly katz.
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36. She will be memorialized
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37. at FBI headquarters
and field offices
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38. so that her ultimate sacrifice
will always be remembered.
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39. That's all.
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40. I want to see her.
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41. Leave us alone.
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42. Let's go!
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43. You said you just
interpret the evidence.
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44. So interpret the evidence.
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45. I strangle Beverly katz...
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46. looking in her eyes.
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47. She knows me.
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48. And I know her.
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49. I expertly squeeze
the life from her...
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50. rendering her unconscious.
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51. I freeze her body...
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52. preserving shape and form
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53. so I can more cleanly
dismantle her.
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54. She cuts like stone.
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55. I pull her apart,
layer by layer...
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56. like she would a crime scene.
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57. This is my design.
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58. I will leave no usable evidence,
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59. but she found something.
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60. She found me.
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61. What she found is already gone.
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62. What did I take from her?
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63. It's the chesapeake ripper.
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64. It's the ripper and the copycat.
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65. It's the same killer.
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66. Two masks...
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67. Beverly helped me see it.
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68. Help me see it.
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69. She was looking
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70. for a connection between
the copycat and the ripper.
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71. You think she found it?
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72. She found something.
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73. Where were you last night?
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74. In the hospital.
With my wife.
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75. I told Beverly to go to you,
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76. tell you everything she knew.
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77. Instead, she went
looking for evidence.
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78. She met the ripper
last night, Jack.
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79. She... She will be...
Missing organs.
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80. He had to take his trophies.
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81. Who is he, will?
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82. Beverly made her
connection to the ripper.
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83. You have to make
your own, Jack.
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84. Then what did I
bring you here for?
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85. To say goodbye.
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86. Would you like to talk about what
happened at the observatory?
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87. You discussed my therapy
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88. with Hannibal Lecter, Frederick.
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89. Counter to our agreement.
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90. I gave him a peek before
I snatched down the shades.
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91. I have appearances
to maintain.
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92. Beverly katz paid you a visit
before she was murdered.
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93. What did the two of you discuss? What,
you weren't listening to that one?
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94. You met her in
the privacy room.
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95. It is the only room in the facility I
am not legally allowed to monitor.
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96. And you let that stop you?
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97. We talked about
the chesapeake ripper.
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98. Then she went and found him.
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99. Psychopaths can be indifferent
to those sorts of setbacks.
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100. I know something of the monster
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101. you are dealing with.
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102. He is a well- educated man.
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103. A socially competent man.
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104. He has surgical experience or,
at the very least, know-how.
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105. You thought Abel gideon
was the chesapeake ripper.
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106. Evidently, I was
wrong about that.
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107. - Gideon knows who the ripper is.
- And I suppose you do, too.
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108. Wouldn't it be interesting if we
both said it was the same man?
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109. Yes, it would.
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110. It's a shame we can't
talk to Abel gideon
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111. about the chesapeake ripper.
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112. Well, just think, Frederick,
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113. you could be the one
who catches him after all.
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114. Beverly isn't
your responsibility.
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115. You should be allowed to grieve. You
shouldn't have to wade through it.
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116. We're not running away
from this, Jack.
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117. Beverly wouldn't.
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118. Good.
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119. I double-checked
the autopsy report.
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120. What you found at that
observatory wasn't all Beverly.
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121. What do you mean?
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122. These kidneys, they were
placed inside her body
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123. after she was killed. I typed
them against DNA samples
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124. and, uh, they belong to the mural killer.
James gray. James gray.
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125. So, whoever killed
James gray and sewed him
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126. into his mural also murdered Beverly.
Swapped out their kidneys.
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127. Right now, the only thing
we have to go on
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128. is we find her kidneys
and we find her killer.
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129. Mr. Graham.
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130. You always did look
like the boy next door.
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131. Is it true you ate
that poor hobbs girl?
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132. You can call me will,
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133. now we're of equal
social standing.
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134. Is this Frederick's
idea of punishment?
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135. Group therapy with the man
who tried to kill me.
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136. No. I'd like to talk to you
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137. about the chesapeake ripper.
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138. - Thought I was the chesapeake ripper.
- No,
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139. you are the pretender
to the throne.
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140. What did you offer Frederick
to bring me back?
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141. I'm the last person
he wants to see.
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142. I give him a visceral
chill in the guts.
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143. Whatever's left of them. You know who the
chesapeake ripper is. You've met him.
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144. So Frederick gets to catch
the ripper after all.
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145. What do you get?
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146. I remember that night
at Dr. Lecter's.
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147. The night I brought you there.
The night you tried to kill me.
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148. Yes, how do you think
I found you?
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149. He sent me to kill you, Abel.
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150. Am I your evidence?
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151. Oh, you're in
trouble, Mr. Graham.
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152. Why would you protect him?
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153. You were quite happy to try
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154. and kill me yourself.
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155. You have it "in you,"
as they say.
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156. He is the devil, Mr. Graham.
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157. He is smoke.
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158. You'll never
"catch" the ripper.
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159. He won't be caught.
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160. If you want him...
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161. you will have to kill him.
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162. Fair enough.
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163. You and I are both proponents
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164. of unorthodox treatments
of the mind.
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165. Strategies others might not
choose to understand.
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166. What I'm trying to understand
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167. is why you would transfer Abel
gideon back to your hospital
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168. for the unworried unwell.
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169. It was not for
selfish reasons.
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170. Ah, selfishness.
The original sin of man,
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171. according to judeo-
Christian morality.
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172. We are not talking about
morality or ethics here,
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173. are we, Dr. Lecter? But rather,
concealing their absence.
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174. Gideon disemboweled you,
Frederick.
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175. Brave of you, or perhaps wise,
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176. to keep the evidence
of your misdeeds
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177. under your own roof.
My misdeeds and yours.
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178. Neither of us
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179. controls our stories well enough
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180. to get anything from exposing
the other's misdeeds.
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181. Here's to that.
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182. I brought gideon back because...
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183. I thought he may be useful
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184. in will Graham's therapy.
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185. He shot gideon, yet
he has no memory of it.
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186. We know memories, emotions,
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187. and even spiritual experiences
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188. can be manipulated
while under hypnotics.
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189. I'm trying to set will on the path
to rebuilding his broken brain,
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190. picking up your pieces,
as it were.
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191. You've analyzed my patient;
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192. Perhaps you'll allow me
to analyze yours.
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193. I'd like to interview
Abel gideon.
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194. You don't need
to stand way over there.
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195. I'm a cutter, not a pisser.
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196. Hello, Dr. gideon.
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197. Our brains devote more space
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198. to reading the details of faces
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199. than any other object.
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200. Dare I say, I've never
seen yours before.
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201. I'm Dr. Hannibal Lecter.
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202. I was will Graham's
psychiatrist.
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203. Well, he's not
a very good advertisement
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204. for your abilities, Dr. Lecter.
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205. That remains to be seen.
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206. Oh,
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207. I bet you're a devil
at the bridge table.
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208. It's a pleasure to make your acquaintance.
The pleasure's mine.
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209. Esteem in psychiatric circles
still eludes him,
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210. yet it clings to you
like soap to a baby's eyes.
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211. He very much wants to be you.
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212. He should be more careful
what he wishes for.
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213. And you should have been
more careful with will Graham.
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214. That young man
has got a bone to pick.
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215. As a therapist, I'm
concerned with finding ways
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216. of overcoming resistance.
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217. Not building it up.
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218. Well, you built up
something, Dr. Lecter.
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219. That was rude, miss lounds.
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220. Did you really think I was
above that sort of thing?
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221. Hm... you seem
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222. - disappointed.
- We evolved
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223. the ability to communicate
disappointment to teach those around us
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224. good manners.
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225. Unfortunately, I did not evolve
the ability to feel shame.
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226. You should explore
that in therapy.
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227. I saw a psychiatrist once and
it was under false pretenses.
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228. Happy to entertain you for
a more genuine conversation.
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229. So, what brings you
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230. to the Baltimore state hospital
for the criminally insane?
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231. I am interviewing
will Graham.
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232. At his request.
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233. Imagine that.
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234. I'm trying.
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235. Do not pass anything but soft
paper. No pens, no pencils.
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236. Do not accept anything he gives
you. Do not let him touch you.
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237. You do not touch him.
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238. I will be right outside.
I know the drill.
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239. It's good to see you again,
will. Let me rephrase that.
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240. It is good to see you in here.
Where you belong.
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241. Thank you for coming.
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242. - Why am I here?
- I have an admirer.
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243. And he seems to fit
your demographic.
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244. My demographic
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245. is murderers and people
obsessed with murderers.
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246. I'm talking about the man who killed
the bailiff and the judge at my trial.
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247. Ah.
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248. And you think he's your admirer?
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249. He killed the bailiff
to give me an alibi.
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250. He killed the judge
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251. because he threw that alibi out.
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252. So is your admirer crazy?
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253. I don't think anybody
as careful as he is
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I think... I think he's different.
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255. Maybe a lot of people
believe him to be crazy,
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256. and the reason for that is, he
hasn't let people understand much
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257. about him.
But you understand him.
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258. Are you trying to catch
him or contact him?
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259. I would like to establish
a line of communication.
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260. And your website
seems like a good place
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261. to do that.
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262. I could open it up for you.
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263. Ads, editorial,
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264. online chat rooms, monitoring incoming mail.
I could be discreet.
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265. In exchange for?
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266. Exclusive rights
to your story.
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267. It's all yours, Freddie.
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268. You want to talk
to your admirer,
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269. we'll have to send
an invitation.
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270. "Sadly, other killers have drawn
inspiration from Graham.
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271. "As he stood trial for his life,
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272. "one such killer
even constructed an ode
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273. "to Graham's grisly techniques.
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274. "Graham believed this man
wanted to help,
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275. "even though his motives
for that are unclear.
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276. "He killed people in his name,
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277. and he'd like to ask him why."
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278. Would you like
a book, Mr. Graham?
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279. I have my imagination.
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280. I read your tattlecrime
interview.
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281. You're a very articulate man.
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282. I agreed with a lot
of what you said.
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283. You're right.
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284. People don't understand
much about me.
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285. Or about you.
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286. But at least we
understand each other.
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287. There's something
we don't have.
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288. Or maybe we just
evolved not to need.
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289. You were hiding in the FBI.
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290. That's talent.
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291. If you hadn't gotten sick,
they never would've found you.
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292. You found a great
place to hide.
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293. Spend time in
a mental hospital,
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294. you pick up the drill.
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295. You could pass as an orderly,
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296. get a job doing it
when you get out.
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297. They may never
know you were in.
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298. Obviously you realize
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299. chilton records
every word said in here.
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300. Who do you think
wired the mics?
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301. Or unwired the mics, as they currently are.
You killed the bailiff
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302. during my trial. I thought
it would exonerate you.
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303. I had read your file
often enough.
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304. Easy to recreate your work.
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305. It was so specific.
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306. Though the bailiff was a bitch
to get on that stag's head.
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308. I killed the bailiff.
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309. The judge was... Somebody else.
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310. Why are you trying to help me?
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311. Have you seen the way
that smaller birds
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312. will mob a hawk on a wire?
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313. You and me, we are
hawks, Mr. Graham.
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314. Hawks are solitary.
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315. And that's their weakness.
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316. Enough of those smaller birds get
together, and they chase hawks away.
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317. Imagine if the hawks
started working together.
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318. Why did you want to talk to me?
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319. I need a favor.
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320. I'm always happy to do
a favor for a friend.
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321. Just say the words.
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322. I want you to kill
Hannibal Lecter.
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323. Will?
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324. Hi.
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325. Hi.
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326. I'm sorry to drop in
unannounced like this.
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327. - What's on your mind, Dr. bloom?
- You.
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328. You gave an interview
to Freddie lounds.
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329. You despise Freddie lounds.
It just seemed, um...
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330. What, suspicious?
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331. And slightly worrying.
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332. You don't have
to worry about me.
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334. about what happened to Beverly,
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335. and you want to do
something about it.
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336. Would that be so bad?
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337. Depends on what you're
thinking about doing.
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338. But there's no solution
to grief, will. It just is.
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339. Beverly died because of me.
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340. Because she listened to me.
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341. I'm not gonna let that
happen again.
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342. Will, what have you done?
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343. Just what I had to do.
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344. What is it about you,
Dr. bloom?
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345. The most sinister
neurochemistry in the field
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346. cannot help percolating
in your presence.
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347. The interesting ones
all fall at your feet.
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348. Will Graham, Abel gideon,
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349. they're chatty as can be.
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350. You are like
catnip for killers.
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351. I see Abel gideon
has returned to the roost.
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352. I believe you and I are his
only surviving psychiatrists.
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353. Pulled the tongues
out of all the rest.
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354. Pulled more than
that out of you.
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355. Have you noticed anything
different about will
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356. since gideon arrived?
Gideon is here
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357. as part of will's therapy,
helping him reclaim his past.
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358. Can I see him?
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359. Dr. bloom...
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360. you are like a flower
blossoming amongst the weeds.
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361. I'm glad to see you
alive, Dr. gideon.
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362. Well, Mr. Graham didn't do
a particularly good job
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363. of killing me. He was sick.
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364. And a very poor shot.
Good enough shot
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365. to get a bullet in you
before you put a blade in me.
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366. And for that,
I am sincerely grateful.
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about that night.
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368. How do you know where I live?
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369. A little birdie
wanted me to kill you.
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370. Or a little birdie
wanted Mr. Graham
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But either way,
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expendable.
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373. You were trying to find
the ripper that night.
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374. - Did you?
- I found will Graham.
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375. Will isn't
the chesapeake ripper.
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376. Not yet.
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377. All the things
that make us who we are...
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379. to make those things change?
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380. So much has happened
to Mr. Graham.
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381. He is a changed man.
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382. Maybe he's looking
for redemption.
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383. He's not looking
for redemption.
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384. But revenge,
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385. now that is a trinket
he could value.
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386. He thinks that he knows
who killed Beverly katz?
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387. For the courtesy
you have always shown me,
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388. I am going to give you a gift.
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389. I'm going to give you a chance
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390. to save will from himself.
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391. How?
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392. He is in a biblical
place right now,
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393. but that rage will pass.
And when it does,
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394. will Graham will either be
a murderer or he will not.
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395. Up to you.
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He's really
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killing anyone.
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399. But if he only had
a little birdie
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400. who could whisper murder
into a sympathetic ear...
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401. Who does he want
to kill, doctor?
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402. He's not here.
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403. There's nothing
in his calendar.
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404. What is it you think will's done?
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This is Jack Crawford.
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406. Yes. Thank you.
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407. We've got a trace
on his cell phone.
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408. Judas had the decency
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409. to hang himself in shame
at his betrayal.
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410. But I thought you needed help.
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411. Did you know that the phrase
"to kick the bucket" came
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412. from exactly this situation? You could kick it
out right now yourself and it'd all be over.
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413. Quicker than bleeding out.
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414. You're a nurse
at the hospital.
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415. You're setting a new
standard of care.
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416. Will Graham is not
what you think.
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418. He is now.
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419. By proxy.
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420. He asked you to do this?
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421. What are friends for?
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422. Now I'm going to ask you
a few yes or no questions
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423. while you still have enough blood
coursing through your brain
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424. to answer them. You ready?
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425. Ready.
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426. Did you kill that judge?
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427. I can ask you
yes-or-no questions,
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429. and I'll know
what the answer is.
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430. The pupil dilates
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431. with specific mental efforts.
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432. You dilate, that's a "yes."
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433. No dilation equals "no."
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someone cling on to a life
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436. that's not really worth living?
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437. Eking out a few extra seconds.
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438. Wondering why they bother.
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439. I know why.
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440. Life is precious.
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441. The chesapeake ripper.
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442. I wonder what
they're gonna call me.
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443. You know, the iroquois
used to eat their enemies
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444. to take their strength.
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445. Maybe your murders
will become my murders.
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446. I'll be the chesapeake
ripper now.
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447. Only if you eat me.
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448. Put your hands
where I can see them.
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449. He's got a gun, Jack!
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450. Hold on!
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451. Hold on, hold on.
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452. Get an ambulance!
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