1. Previously in hannibal...
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2. - He's some kind of special
consultant for the fbi.
- I asked you to get close
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3. To the hobbs thing. I need to
know you didn't get too close.
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4. - What you need is
a way out of dark places
when jack sends you there.
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5. - Last time he sent me
into a dark place,
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6. I brought something back.
- A surrogate daughter?
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7. - Abigail hobbs is a suspect?
- She would make the ideal bait.
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8. Wouldn't she?
- Just a second. Dad?
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9. It's for you.
- Hello?
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10. - They know.
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11. - Be patient.
Wait for your shot.
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12. Ready? And three, two, one.
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13. Go.
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14. - She was so pretty.
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15. - She is so pretty.
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16. - Aren't deer are supposed to be
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17. Complex emotional creatures?
- Yeah.
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18. - I read they're
like the equivalent
of a four-year-old human being.
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19. - They're smarter
than a four-year-old.
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20. - And they care
about each other.
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21. They care
about their environment.
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22. They tread lightly
through the underbrush
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23. Because they don't want
to hurt the plants.
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24. - They're a lot like us.
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25. And we're gonna honor
every part of her.
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26. Her hide is gonna
make a beautiful rug.
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27. Her leg bones we can
carve into knives.
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28. None of her is gonna
go to waste.
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29. Just like we talked about.
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30. Start at the sternum.
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31. Keep the blade pointed up.
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32. Damage the organs,
you ruin the meat.
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33. - I don't know how I'm gonna
feel about eating her
after all this.
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34. - Eating her is honoring her.
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35. Otherwise,
it's... It's just...
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36. Murder.
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37. Ok.
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38. Nice and easy.
Big breath.
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39. Good.
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40. - Morning.
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41. - Didn't hear you drive up.
- Hybrid.
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42. Great car for stalking.
- Um,
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43. I'm compelled
to go cover myself.
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44. - I have brothers.
- Well, I'll put a robe on
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45. Just the same.
You want a cup of coffee?
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46. And more immediately,
why are you here?
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47. - Yes, and abigail hobbs
woke up.
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48. - Well, you know how
to bury the lede.
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49. - You want me to get you
a cup of coffee?
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50. - No. I want to get my coat.
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51. - Let's have a cup of coffee.
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52. - Is he gonna keep calling?
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53. - Jack wants you
to go see her.
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54. - And you don't.
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55. - Eventually.
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56. Jack thinks abigail was
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57. An accomplice
to her father's crimes.
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58. I don't want to get
in the middle of you and jack,
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59. But if I can be helpful
to you as a buffer—
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60. - I—I like you as a buffer.
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61. I also like the fact
that you rattle jack.
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62. He respects you far too much
to yell at you,
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63. No matter how much
he wants to.
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64. - And I take advantage
of that.
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65. - Abigail hobbs
doesn't have anyone.
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66. - You can't be
her everyone.
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67. When I said what I was going
to say in my head,
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68. It sounded really insulting,
so I'm going to find
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69. Another way to say it.
- Say it the insulting way.
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70. - Dogs keep a promise
a person can't.
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71. - I'm not collecting
another stray.
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72. - The first person abigail
talks to about what happened
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73. Can't be anyone who
was there when it happened.
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74. So that means
no dr. Lecter either.
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75. - Yeah, much less the guy
who killed dad.
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76. Jack's wrong
about abigail.
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77. - Let me reach out to her
my own way.
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78. Hi.
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79. I'm alana bloom.
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80. - Are you a doctor?
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81. - Not medicine.
I'm a psychiatrist.
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82. - What do you specialize in?
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83. - Among other things,
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84. Family trauma.
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85. - I asked the nurses
if my parents were dead,
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86. And they wouldn't tell me.
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87. Said I had to wait for you.
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88. - I'm sorry
you had to wait.
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89. - I know they're dead.
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90. Who buried them?
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91. - They haven't been buried.
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92. - Don't you think
they should be?
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93. - Your mother was cremated
per the instructions
in her living will.
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94. - my dad?
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95. - Your father is
more complicated.
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96. - Because he was crazy?
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97. - The nurses said
you didn't remember.
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98. - I remember. I just didn't want
to talk to them about it.
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99. I want to sell the house.
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100. I guess it's mine now.
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101. I can use the money for college,
get an apartment.
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102. What are all those?
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103. - I brought you some clothes.
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104. Thought a change might
feel good.
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105. I guessed your size,
so anything you don't want,
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106. Leave the tags on,
I'll bring it back.
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107. And I brought you
some music too.
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108. - Your music?
- If there isn't
anything you like,
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109. I've got a stack
of itunes gift cards.
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110. I—I've got a stack
of gift cards.
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111. I don't... Do well
redeeming gift cards.
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112. - Probably says something
about you.
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113. - Probably does.
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114. - I got seven families waiting.
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115. No, let me rephrase: Demanding
that we find whatever's left
of their daughters.
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116. Abigail hobbs may be the only
person who knows the truth.
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117. - You can't ask her
right now, jack.
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118. We have to create a safe place
for her first
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119. Or you won't get any answers.
- I respect your sympathy
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120. For her, dr. Bloom.
I hope one day you'll
appreciate my lack of it.
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121. - You really think abigail hobbs
helped her father kill
those girls?
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122. - I think it's a possibility
that needs to be ruled out.
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123. If abigail didn't help her
father, maybe she knows who did.
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124. - How was she
when you saw her?
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125. - Surprisingly practical.
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126. - Suspiciously practical?
- I would suggest
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127. She can be practical
without being a murderer.
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128. - I think she's
hiding something.
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129. - It may simply be her trauma.
- Yeah, it could also be more.
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130. She has a penchant
for manipulation;
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131. Withheld information
to gain information;
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132. She demonstrated only
enough emotions
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133. To prove she had them.
- You're beginning to appreciate
my lack of sympathy?
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134. - You said it may be more
than trauma, yet you question
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135. Her involvement in the murders
her father committed?
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136. - What I'm questioning
is her state of mind.
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137. - I want will graham
to talk to her.
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138. - Jack. Not yet.
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139. - You are not will graham's
psychiatrist, dr. Bloom.
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140. Dr. Lecter is.
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141. - Garrett jacob hobbs—
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142. The, uh, minnesota shrike,
abducted and murdered
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143. Eight girls
over an eight-month period.
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144. Each of them had the same
hair color, same eye color,
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145. Same age, same height,
same weight
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146. As his daughter abigail.
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147. There was a ninth victim
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148. Who also fit
abigail hobbs's profile,
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149. But garrett jacob hobbs
didn't murder her.
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150. The killer who did
wanted us to know
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151. He wasn't the minnesota shrike.
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152. He was better
than that.
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153. He is an intelligent psychopath.
He is a sadist.
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154. He will never kill
like this again.
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155. So how do we catch him?
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156. - Giving a lecture
on hobbs's copycat?
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157. - Well, we need every good mind
we can get on this.
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158. - This copycat is
an avid reader
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159. Of freddie lounds
and tattlecrime.Com.
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160. He had intimate knowledge
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161. Of garrett jacob hobbs's
murders, motives, patterns—
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162. Enough to recreate them
and, arguably,
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163. Elevate them to art.
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164. How intimately did he know
garrett jacob hobbs?
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165. Did he appreciate him
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166. From afar, or did he engage him?
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167. Did he ingratiate himself
into hobbs's life?
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168. Did hobbs know
his copycat
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169. As he was known?
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170. Before garrett jacob hobbs
murdered his wife
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171. And attempted to do
the same to his daughter,
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172. He received an untraceable call.
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173. I believe
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174. The as-yet
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175. Was our copycat killer.
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176. - So you're not a doctor,
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177. A nurse, or a psychiatrist.
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178. - I'm a journalist.
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179. I want to tell the truth.
Your truth.
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180. Sometimes that involves
some deception,
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181. But know this:
I will never lie to you.
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182. - Sounds like something
a liar would say.
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183. - If you tell me what you know,
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184. I can help you
fill in the blanks.
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185. - How about you tell me
what you know.
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186. - Your dad was
the minnesota shrike.
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187. Your mother wasn't the first
person your father killed.
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188. He killed
eight girls.
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189. Eight girls that looked—
- just like me.
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190. - Yes.
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191. - Why do they call him
the shrike?
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192. - It's a bird that
impales its prey,
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193. Harvests the organs
to eat later.
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194. He was very sick.
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195. - Does that mean I'm sick too?
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196. - You'll be fighting
that perception.
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197. Perception is
the most important thing
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198. In your life right now.
- I don't care what
anybody thinks.
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199. - You'd better
start caring, abigail.
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200. What you remember,
what you tell everyone,
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201. Is going to define
the rest of your life.
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202. Let me help you.
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203. - How did they catch him?
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204. - A man named will graham.
Works for the fbi but isn't fbi.
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205. He catches insane men
because he can think like them.
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206. Because he is insane.
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207. - Would you excuse us, please?
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208. I'm special agent will graham.
- By special agent he means
not really an agent.
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209. He didn't get past
the screening process.
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210. Too unstable.
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211. - I really must insist
you leave the room.
- If you want to talk—
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212. - Abigail,
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213. This is dr. Lecter.
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214. Do you remember us?
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215. - I remember you.
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216. You killed my dad.
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217. - You've been in bed
for days, abigail.
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218. Why don't we
have a walk?
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219. - I'm sorry we couldn't
save your mother.
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220. We did everything we could
but she was already gone.
- I know.
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221. I saw him kill her.
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222. He was loving right up
until the second he wasn't.
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223. Kept telling me
he was sorry,
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224. To just hold still.
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225. He was gonna
make it all go away.
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226. - There was plenty wrong
with your father, abigail,
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227. But there's nothing
wrong with you.
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228. You say he was loving.
I believe it.
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229. That's what you
brought out in him.
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230. - It's not all
I brought out in him.
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231. I'm gonna be messed up.
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232. Aren't I?
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233. I'm worried about nightmares.
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234. - We'll help you
with the nightmares.
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235. - There's no such thing
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to what you experienced.
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237. It bothers me
a lot.
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238. I worry about nightmares too.
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239. - So killing somebody,
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240. Even if you have to do it,
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241. It feels that bad?
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242. - It's the ugliest thing
in the world.
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243. - I wanna go home.
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244. - Special agent graham.
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245. I never formally
introduced myself.
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246. I'm freddie lounds.
- Are you trying to salvage this
joke from the mouth of madness?
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247. - Please. Let me apologize
for my behavior in there.
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248. It was sloppy and misguided
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249. And hurtful.
- Miss lounds.
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250. Now is not the time.
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251. - Look, you and I may have
our own reasons for being here,
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252. But I also think we both
genuinely care about
what happens
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253. To abigail hobbs.
- You told her I was insane.
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254. - I can undo that.
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255. - You help abigail see me as
more than her father's killer,
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256. And I help you
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257. With online ad sales?
- I can undo what I said.
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258. I can also make it a lot worse.
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259. - Miss lounds...
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260. It's not very smart
to piss off a guy
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261. Who thinks about
killing people for a living.
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262. - "it isn't very smart
to piss off a guy
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263. Who thinks about killing
people for a living."
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264. You know what else
isn't very smart?
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265. You were there with him.
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266. And you let those words
come out of his mouth.
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267. - I trust will to speak
for himself.
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268. - Evidently
you shouldn't.
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269. - I'm just happy the story
wasn't about abigail hobbs.
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270. - Well, then it's a victory.
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271. so, abigail hobbs
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272. Wants to go home.
Let's take her home.
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273. - What abigail wants
and what she needs
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274. Are different things.
Taking her out of a controlled
environment would be reckless.
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275. - You said she was practical.
- That could just mean
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276. She has a dissociative disorder.
- You take her home,
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277. She may experience intense
emotions, respond aggressively,
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278. Or re-enact some aspect
of the traumatic event
without even realizing it.
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279. - Where do you weigh in
on this, doctor?
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280. - Dr. Bloom is right.
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281. But there is a scenario where
revisiting the trauma event
could help abigail heal
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282. And actually
prevent denial.
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283. - Then we have a difference
of opinion. Therefore,
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284. I am going to choose
the opinion
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285. That best serves
my agenda.
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286. I need to know
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287. If you're right about
the copycat, will.
- We have no way
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288. Of knowing what's waiting
for her when she goes home.
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289. - Thanks again
for meeting with me.
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290. I know this hasn't
been easy for you.
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291. - Oh yeah? How
would you know?
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292. - I've been writing
about garrett jacob hobbs.
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293. I've spoken to the relatives
of some of his other victims.
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294. - Hobbs is dead.
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295. He deserved a lot worse.
Him and his whole family.
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296. - There must be some
small comfort knowing
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297. That justice was served.
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298. - Comfort?
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299. My sister was impaled
on a severed stag head,
cut down the middle.
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300. He pulled out her lungs
while she was still breathing.
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301. There's no comfort in that.
- I'm sorry. I am.
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302. But you have to try not
to remember her that way.
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303. - What do you
want from me?
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304. - I just thought
you should know abigail hobbs
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305. Came out of her coma.
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306. - Is this where my mom died?
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307. - Yes.
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308. - I was sort of expecting a body
outline in chalk or tape.
- They only do that
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309. If you're still alive
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310. And taken to the hospital before
they finish the crime scene.
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311. - Goodbye, mom.
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312. - If you ever wanna go,
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313. You just have to say so
and we'll go.
- Go where?
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314. The hospital?
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315. - For now.
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316. - Who turned all
the pictures around?
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317. - Crime scene cleaners
will do that.
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318. - They did a really good job.
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319. Is that where all my blood was?
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320. - Yes.
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321. - You do this a lot?
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322. Go places and think
about killing?
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323. - Too often.
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324. - So you pretended to be my dad.
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325. - And people
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326. Like your dad.
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327. - What did it feel like?
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328. To be him?
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329. - It feels... Like...
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330. I'm talking to his shadow
suspended on dust.
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331. - No wonder you have nightmares.
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332. - The attacks on you
and your mother
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333. Were different.
They were desperate.
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334. Your dad knew he was
out of time. Somebody
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335. Told him we were coming.
- The man on the phone?
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336. - It was a blocked call.
Did you recognize his voice?
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337. - I had never heard it before.
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338. - Was there anybody new
in your father's life?
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339. Someone you met or
someone he talked about?
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340. - Abigail, he may
have been contacted
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341. By another killer.
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342. A copycat.
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343. - Someone who's still out there?
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344. - Yeah.
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345. - Can you catch
somebody who's crazy?
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346. - Folie à deux.
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347. - What?
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348. - It's a french
psychiatric term.
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349. Madness
shared by two.
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350. - See?
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351. - One cannot be delusional
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352. If the belief in question is
accepted as ordinary
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353. By others in that person's
culture or subculture.
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354. Or family.
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355. - My dad didn't seem delusional.
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356. He was a perfectionist.
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357. - Your dad left
hardly any evidence.
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358. - Is that why
you let me come home?
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359. To find evidence?
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360. - It was one of many
considerations.
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361. - Are we gonna
re-enact the crime?
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362. You be my dad, you be my mom,
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363. And you be the man
on the phone.
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364. - Abigail, we wanted you
to come home
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365. To help you leave
home behind.
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366. - You're not gonna find
any of those girls, you know.
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367. - What makes you say that?
- He would honor every part
of them.
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368. He used to make
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369. Plumbing putty
out of elk's bones.
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370. Whatever bones
are left
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371. Of those girls are probably
holding pipes together.
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372. - Where did he make this putty?
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373. - At the cabin.
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374. I can show you tomorrow.
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375. - Abigail, there's
someone here.
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376. - Hey, abigail.
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377. So, uh, does that hurt?
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378. - Sometimes.
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379. - Everybody on the block
was on the news.
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380. And everyone at school.
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381. Such whores.
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382. - Did you talk to the news?
- No. No!
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383. My mom doesn't want me talking
to you, much less the news.
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384. - Since when do you
listen to her?
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385. - Well, clearly I don't.
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386. I'm talking to you right now.
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387. Everybody thinks
you did it, you know?
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388. - Do you think I did it?
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389. - I don't think
you're the type.
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390. Then again, I didn't
think your father
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391. Was the murder-suicide type.
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392. Although I guess the hunting
could have been a clue.
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393. - Mine or his?
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394. - Both, now that
you mention it.
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395. I don't think
you did it.
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396. - I do.
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397. - This is private property.
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398. - You were the bait, right?
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399. That's how it worked? You lure
them back to daddy for dinner?
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400. How'd you trap
my sister?
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401. Did you chat her up?
- Hey! Piss off!
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402. - Did you help your old man
cut out my sister's lungs
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403. While she was still using—
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404. - He said he was
somebody's brother.
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405. - Marissa! Come home.
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406. - No...
- Come home!
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407. - Can you stop being
such a bitch?
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408. See you later.
- Bye.
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409. - He's gone.
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410. You've never
seen him before?
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411. - No.
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412. - Let's get back to the hotel.
We'll go to the cabin tomorrow.
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413. - We should
report this, yes?
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414. - Yes.
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415. I'm sorry, okay?
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416. This will all stop.
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417. Please. I'm gonna
make it all go away.
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418. - He cleaned everything.
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419. He said he was
afraid of germs,
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420. But I guess he was just afraid
of getting caught.
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421. - No one else ever came
here with your dad...
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422. Except you.
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423. - He made everything
by himself.
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424. Glue, butter...
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425. He sold the pelts
on ebay or in town.
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426. He made pillows.
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427. No parts went to waste.
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428. Otherwise it was murder.
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429. He was feeding them to us.
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430. Wasn't he?
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431. - It's very likely.
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432. - Before
he cut my throat,
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433. He told me he killed those girls
so he wouldn't have to kill me.
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434. - You're not responsible for
anything your father did,
abigail.
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435. - If he would've just killed me,
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436. None of those other girls
would be dead.
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437. - We don't know that.
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438. Your father—
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439. - I need ert at the hobbs cabin.
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440. - Abigail—
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441. - Do you think she knew the guy
down by the stream?
- Somebody's brother.
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442. - Not somebody.
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443. Abigail said he asked
if she helped her dad
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444. Take his sister's lungs
while she was alive.
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445. - The young woman
on the stag head.
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446. - Cassie boyle.
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447. Had a brother,
nicholas.
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448. But garrett jacob hobbs
didn't kill
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449. Cassie boyle.
- I know.
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450. Garrett jacob hobbs would've
honored every part of her.
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451. - You brought abigail hobbs
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452. Back to minnesota to find out
if she was involved
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453. In her father's murders,
and another girl dies.
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454. - Yep, scraped
his knuckle on her teeth.
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455. There's foreign tissue
and what could be
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456. Trace amounts of blood.
- You said that this copycat
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457. Was an intelligent psychopath,
will. That there would be
no traceable motive,
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458. No pattern. He wouldn't
kill again this way.
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459. You said it.
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460. - I may have been
wrong about that.
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461. - Yes, because garrett jacob
hobbs never struck his victims.
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462. Why would the copycat do it?
- I think he was provoked.
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463. Nicholas boyle
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464. Murdered this girl
and his own sister.
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465. - With or without abigail hobbs?
- Without.
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466. - Well, do you think
that abigail hobbs
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467. Knew nicholas or cassie boyle?
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468. - No...
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469. - You don't think
she knew them...
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470. Or don't want to think
that she knew them?
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471. - She said she didn't know them.
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472. - dr. Bloom says that abigail
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473. Has a penchant for, uh,
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474. Manipulation. Is she
manipulating you, will?
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475. - Agent crawford.
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476. - Look, he said he was wrong
about the copycat killer.
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477. I want to know what else
he's wrong about.
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478. - Whoever killed the girl
on the field killed this girl,
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479. I'm right about that.
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480. He knew exactly how
to mount the body.
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481. Wound patterns are almost
identical to cassie boyle.
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482. Same design, the same...
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483. Humiliation.
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484. - Abigail hobbs
is not a killer.
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485. But she could be
the target of one.
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486. - I think it's time that abigail
hobbs left home permanently.
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487. Doctor, would you be good
enough to collect abigail
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488. And all of her belongings
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489. And escort her out
of minnesota, please?
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490. Not you, will.
I want you here.
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491. Abigail! Abigail!
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492. - You killed my daughter!
- Abigail—
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493. - Why did you come back here?
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494. Why come back?
- Stay here. Stay here.
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495. - Abigail.
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496. - Miss lounds.
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497. You're on the wrong side
of the police line.
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498. - I've been covering
the minnesota shrike long
before you got involved.
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499. I wanna help you tell
your story. You need me
now more than ever.
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500. - I wanna talk to her.
- No you don't. Go inside.
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501. - I'm not the only one lurking
about the hobbs house
peeking in windows.
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502. You really should monitor those
police lines more carefully.
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503. - Have you seen
a young man, mid-20s,
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504. Ginger hair? Unwashed.
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505. - I'll tell you if I saw him
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506. If you tell me
why it's important.
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507. - None of her
is gonna go to waste.
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508. - I'm not gonna hurt you.
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509. Okay? I just need you
to listen to me.
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510. I didn't kill
that girl, okay?
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511. I didn't kill her!
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512. Wait!
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513. Listen! I didn't—
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514. - Abigail?
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515. Abigail?
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516. - She'll be all right.
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517. Abigail.
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518. Show me what happened.
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519. - He was gonna kill me.
- Was he?
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520. This isn't self-defense,
abigail. You butchered him.
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521. - I didn't...
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522. - They will see
what you did
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523. And they will see you
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524. As an accessory
to the crimes of your father.
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525. - I wasn't.
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526. - I can help you,
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527. If you ask me to.
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528. At great risk to
my career and my life.
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529. You have a choice.
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530. You can tell them
you were defending yourself
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531. When you gutted this man...
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532. Or we can hide the body.
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533. - Then I don't
remember anything.
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534. Maybe a blur out of the corner
of my eye and—
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535. And then a big fat cut to black.
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536. - Well, nicholas boyle
attacked abigail, you,
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537. Struck dr. Lecter
in the back of the head.
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538. - Well, where's abigail?
- Lecter took her back
to the hotel.
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539. - She scratched nicholas boyle
on his way out the back door.
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540. The blood on her hands matches
the tissue that we pulled
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541. From marissa schurr's mouth.
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542. - And then what, he—
he got away?
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543. - We'll catch him
one way or another.
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544. Where you going?
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545. - I wanna go home.
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546. - Hello, abigail.
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547. - How did you know it was me?
- Hospital called.
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548. You climbed over the wall.
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549. Where else were you to go?
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550. Home is no longer an option.
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551. Come down from there.
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552. - I don't want to go to sleep.
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553. - You can't anticipate
your dreams.
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554. Can't block them,
can't repress.
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555. - I didn't honor
any part of him,
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556. So it's just murder,
isn't it?
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557. - Most would argue
self-defense.
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558. - Then why not
tell the truth?
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559. - Most would argue.
There would still be those
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560. Who would say you were
taking after your father.
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561. - You're glad I killed him.
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562. - What would be the alternative?
That he killed you?
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563. - I don't know
if he was going to.
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564. - No, you don't.
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565. - You're the one
who called the house.
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566. You talked to my dad before—
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567. What did you
say to him?
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568. - A simple conversation,
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569. Ascertaining if he was
home for an interview.
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570. Then why not tell the truth?
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571. - I think you called the house
as a serial killer.
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572. Just like my dad.
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573. - I am nothing like your dad.
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574. I made a mistake.
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575. Something easily misconstrued.
Not unlike yourself.
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576. I'll keep your secret.
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577. - And I'll keep yours.
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578. - No more climbing walls,
abigail.
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