1. I shoot Mr. Marlow twice,
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with near-surgical precision.
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what is his away from him.
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through the neck.
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The bullet misses every artery.
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Who am I speaking with?
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for the home security company.
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as a false alarm.
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last... week.
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Who am I speaking with?
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We detected a front-door alarm.
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you at this time, Mrs. Marlow?
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further assistance?
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horrifying for Mrs. Marlow.
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Mrs. Marlow.
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37. Mr. Graham.
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38. Special Agent Jack Crawford.
I head the Behavioral Science Unit.
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39. - We've met.
- Yes.
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40. We had a disagreement
when we opened up the museum.
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you named it.
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Research Museum.
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horse to a teaching post,
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difficult for you to be social.
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and sociopaths.
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- I can empathize with anybody.
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- Um...
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Minnesota campuses,
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- I thought there were seven.
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- When did you tag the eighth?
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of bodies, nothing
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Nothing.
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70. I don't know. Someplace else.
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on a Friday
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reported missing until Monday.
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75. Elise Nichols. St. Cloud State
on the Mississippi.
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Was supposed to house sit
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over the weekend, feed the cat.
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He got himself
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81. - a new one.
- So we focus on Elise Nichols.
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Mall of America.
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of wind-chafed skin.
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same eye colour.
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Same height, same weight.
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about all of these girls?
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87. It's not about all of these girls.
It's just about one of them.
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girl he takes is a candy bar,
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all of those candy
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intended victim,
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on our metaphor,
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for his golden ticket,
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it is he did to her?
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wouldn't be the first
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how special she was.
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Harvard and Bloom at Georgetown.
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- That's not exactly true, is it?
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of thinking about things.
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about the, uh, specific way I think?
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can't explain, Will.
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some evidence.
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107. That may require me
to be sociable.
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gone off by herself.
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young woman.
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in her dorm.
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118. We simply have no way
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119. - How's the cat?
Mrs. What?
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120. How's your cat?
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when you came home?
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It didn't eat all weekend.
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from here.
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she came home,
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130. The Nichols' house is
a crime scene.
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and Jimmy Price.
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137. Mr. Nichols, please put
your hands in your pockets
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138. and avoid touching anything.
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139. But we've been in and
out of here all day.
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140. You can hold the cat,
if it's easier.
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you talk.
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you don't talk.
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145. We'll be downstairs.
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146. You let me know when you're
ready for us to come in.
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147. - You're Will Graham.
- You're not supposed to be in here.
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148. You wrote the standard monograph on
time of death by insect activity.
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149. I found antler velvet
in two of the wounds.
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153. Um... strict
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- Detects instability...
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156. Now, you know you're not
supposed to be in here.
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the wounds, like she was gored.
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in the other wounds
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159. - but I was interrupted.
- Hold on, excuse me. Look,
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160. deer and elk pin their prey, OK?
They put
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into their antlers,
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a fox or a coyote.
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164. All right, Elise Nichols was
strangled, suffocated,
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- Antler velvet is rich
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promotes healing.
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in there on purpose.
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to heal her?
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as much as he could...
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already killed her.
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where he found her.
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he couldn't do it to her.
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Come on. Come on.
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will stand a better
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this guy with you
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- Yeah, I'm in the saddle.
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which direction I'm pointing.
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I've never read about him.
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- He couldn't honour her. He feels bad.
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- Yes! It does.
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Whatever crazy that is.
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- That's not how
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soon...
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advantage... academically speaking.
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to do a study on him,
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- Will Graham deals
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could cover him.
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247. All right, if I didn't think
I could cover him 80%.
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I need him out there.
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of course nothing.
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spread off her neck.
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when we took the scrapings.
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from her own palms
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She never scratched him.
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262. - Piece of metal is all we got.
- We should be looking
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tool workers...
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not conclusively post-mortem.
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that look like they were caused
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didn't say the deer
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- Her liver was removed.
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- Huh.
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- If you weren't neurotic,
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anxiety in short bursts,
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yours has seemed to enjoy.
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of devouring you.
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- Yes.
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I'm, uh, Special Ag...
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discourteous, but this
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for my patients.
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May I come in?
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next week.
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- Unless, of course,
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- Was predispositioned
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heart to the United Kingdom.
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- Among the first.
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when I was a boy.
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than a pencil sharpener.
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why your drawings earned you
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- No, no.
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by Alana Bloom
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Georgetown.
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are filled with personality
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at Johns Hopkins.
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uh, your paper,
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Very interesting.
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how many confessions?
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I checked. None of them had
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until this morning.
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photograph of Elise Nichols' body
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shared it with his friends,
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trouble with taste?
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not tasty.
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- I build forts.
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- So do forts.
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you don't see enough.
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when you're thinking, um,
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really white",
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or, "Oh, is that a burst
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whenever possible.
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- Yes?
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and learn touches
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present
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at your associations,
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your skull for things you love.
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are you working on?
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Observing is what we do.
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when I'm psychoanalyzed.
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- Now, if you'll excuse me,
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on psychoanalyzing.
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your point of view,
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points of view that scare him.
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Jack.
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that's pointed on both ends.
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getting to know...
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good Will see his face.
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was reported stolen
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a mile from here.
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already made a statement.
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the Minnesota Shrike.
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Impales mice
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and barbed wire.
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right out of their bodies,
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pantry, and eats them later.
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whether it's sloppy
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- He wanted her found
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bed didn't paint this picture.
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when he cut 'em out.
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He wants to consume them,
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of them inside.
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that she was a pig.
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- The cannibal
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a place to do it
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in field kabuki. So,
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421. He has a daughter.
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422. The same age as the other girls.
Same-same hair colour,
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423. same eye colour, same height,
same weight.
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424. She's an only child.
She's leaving home.
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425. He can't stand the thought
of losing her.
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426. She's his golden ticket.
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427. What about the copycat?
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428. You know,
an intelligent psychopath,
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429. particularly a sadist,
is very hard to catch.
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430. There's no traceable motive,
there'll be no patterns.
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431. He may never kill
this way again.
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432. Have Dr. Lecter draw up
a psychological profile.
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433. You seemed very impressed
with his opinion.
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434. Good morning, Will.
May I come in?
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435. - Where's Crawford?
- Deposed in court.
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436. The adventure will be yours
and mine today.
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437. May I come in?
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438. I'm very careful
about what I put into my body,
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439. which means I end up
preparing most meals myself.
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440. A little protein scramble
to start the day.
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441. Some eggs, some sausage.
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442. Mm, it's delicious.
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443. - Thank you.
- My pleasure.
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444. I would apologize
for my analytical ambush,
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445. but I know I will soon be
apologizing again
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446. and you'll tire of that
eventually,
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447. so I have to consider
using apologies sparingly.
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448. Just keep it professional.
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449. Or we could socialize,
like adults.
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450. God forbid we become friendly.
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451. I don't find you
that interesting.
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452. You will.
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453. Agent Crawford tells me you have
a knack for the monsters.
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454. I don't think the Shrike
killed that girl
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455. in the field.
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456. The devil is in the details.
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457. What didn't your
copycat do to the
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458. girl in the field?
What gave it away?
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459. Everything.
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460. It's like he had to
show me a negative
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461. so that I could see the positive.
It...
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462. That crime scene was
practically gift-wrapped.
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463. The mathematics
of human behaviour...
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464. all those ugly variables.
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465. Some bad math
with this Shrike fellow, huh?
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466. Are you reconstructing
his fantasies?
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467. - Heh.
- What kind of problems
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468. - does he have?
- Uh, he has a few.
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469. You ever have any problems,
Will?
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470. No.
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471. Of course you don't.
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472. You and I are just alike...
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473. problem-free. Nothing about us
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474. to feel horrible about.
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475. You know, Will...
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476. I think Uncle Jack sees you
as a fragile little teacup.
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477. The finest china,
used for only special guests.
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478. How do you see me?
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479. The mongoose I want under the
house when the snakes slither by.
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480. Finish your breakfast.
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481. What are you smiling at?
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482. Peeking behind the curtain.
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483. I'm just curious how
the FBI goes about its
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484. business when it's not
kicking in doors.
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485. You're lucky we're not doing
house-to-house interviews.
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486. We found a little piece of metal
in Elise Nichols' clothes...
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487. a shred from a pipe threader.
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488. There must be hundreds of construction
sites all over Minnesota.
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489. A certain kind of metal,
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490. certain kind of pipe,
certain kind of pipe coating,
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491. so we're checking all
the construction
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492. sites that use
that kind of pipe.
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493. What are we looking for?
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494. At this stage,
anything really. But mostly,
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495. anything peculiar.
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496. Two fellas from the FBI.
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497. They goin' through
the drawers now.
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498. Mm-hmm. Puttin' papers
in file boxes.
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499. Yes, they are takin' things.
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500. No. Well, they didn't say...
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501. Yes, they can.
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502. What did you say
your names were?
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503. Garrett Jacob Hobbs?
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504. He's one of our pipe threaders.
Those
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505. are all the resignation letters.
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506. Plumbers' Union requires 'em
whenever members finish a job.
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507. I'll call you back.
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508. - Uh, does Mr. Hobbs have a daughter?
- Might have.
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509. Eighteen or 19, wind-chafed,
uh, plain but pretty.
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510. She'd have auburn hair,
about this tall.
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511. Maybe. I don't know. I don't keep
company with these people.
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512. What is it
about Garrett Jacob Hobbs
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514. He left a phone number,
no address.
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515. And therefore he has
something to hide?
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516. The others all left addresses.
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517. Do you have an address
for Mr. Hobbs?
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518. I got it.
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519. Caller ID said it was...
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520. Hello?
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521. Mr. Garrett Jacob Hobbs?
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522. Yeah.
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523. You don't know me
and I suspect we'll never meet.
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524. This is a courtesy call.
Listen very carefully.
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525. Are you listening?
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526. Yes.
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527. They know.
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528. Ah... ah!
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529. Garrett Jacob Hobbs! FBI!
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530. No, no, no.
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531. See?
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532. See?
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533. No, no, no.
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534. biting in lesser assaults
and bar fights, child abuse...
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535. Emergency room personnel may be
very helpful that way.
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536. If they have any memories
of bad bites, no matter who was
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537. bitten or h...
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538. Where's Graham?
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539. You said he wouldn't
get too close.
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