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2. As the new millennium dawned...
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3. Oh!
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4. The once industry-dominating
World Championship Wrestling...
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5. Bischoff!
Damn it all!
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pace with their rival,
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Federation.
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the next WWF champion,
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fortunes and future
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13. Candidly, one of the biggest
disasters of my entire career.
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WCW's biggest annual
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and in the year 2000,
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epic clash between two of
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creative talents.
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see that piece of shit again.
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motivated by attention.
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didn't get enough
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everything I despised
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never gonna out work me
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with reality.
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Beach 2000 is one
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has their own version of
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place that night.
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not walking out of here
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That is not happening."
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window, what's gonna happen?
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watch wrestling and see that.
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things I ever saw.
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son of a bitch, kiss my ass!
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about being called bald,
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doesn't have any hair.
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was gonna take legal action?
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43. How could you not?
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there will come a place,
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story of what happened
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Bash at the Beach,
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eye in WCW history.
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wrestling business, bro,
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good person and
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wrestling business.
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you enter a shark tank.
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become a shark,
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business since 1991.
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on 32 years now.
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that doesn't change
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better than you!
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is ratings, big ratings!
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you son of a bitch!
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who is the WCW
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Champion?
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- Question.
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- There is no question?
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70. Yeah, I'd say, long-term harm.
Yeah, yeah.
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wrestling is bigger and
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ever been before,
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McMahon's World Wrestling
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challenge to its popularity
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billionaire Ted Turner's
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dominant company
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I would say, '96?
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and WCW was dominant.
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Newsletter, and
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since the early 1970s.
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is the only thing
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in wrestling that
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a fierce ratings war pitting
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against each other,
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by it's ambitious
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Eric Bischoff.
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gonna be successful
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that made WWE successful,
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exactly the opposite of
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created a weekly
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professional wrestling.
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were taped and I thought,
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needs to be live.
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audience has to watch it.
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just a really bad
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silly, childish stuff.
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ignoring men 18 to 39.
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there's my opportunity.
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I began wondering,
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more reality based product?
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kind of a television show
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been done before.
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of the game and
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the times.
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Monday Nitro,
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legitimize WCW
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major talent,
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biggest star
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of his company.
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wrestling company
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the WWE's ratings.
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changed the perception of WCW.
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Eric telling me,
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money." That was his saying.
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rings one day and
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Dallas Page, and he said,
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wants to leave WWE."
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Razor Ramon then.
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and about a week
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from Kevin Nash.
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Bam!
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off in my head.
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There's my reality.
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bats in their hands.
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the New World Order.
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- What is he doing?
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- Is he the third man?
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beating them,
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beating them badly.
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down for the count,
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gravitating to a new
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and a radical new approach to
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introduced by a brash
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named Vince Russo.
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week to week to week,
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what's going to happen.
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remote in his hand,
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the opportunity to see
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the other channel.
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backstage segment,
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fight in the locker room,
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boom, boom, boom!
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Now WWE was on top.
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magical period.
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Vince Russo's,
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Stone Cold Steve Austin
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the Yankees with
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uh, Lou Gehrig.
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they started losing money.
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heading to the iceberg.
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becoming slashed.
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let go in '99,
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I was struggling,
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Bischoff of his
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rumours emerge that Russo is
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in his role at the WWF.
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second show, Smack Down,
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Vince Russo a raise.
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one show a week
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I said, "Vince,
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family closer to my
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isn't alone and
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raising the kids.
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I'm never home."
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without missing a beat,
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to hire a nanny
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brought him in.
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in heaven...
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on who you talk to.
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with these veterans
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WCW for a long time.
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locking eyes with Hulk
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immediately was mistrust.
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Hulk Hogan.
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getting older?" Well yeah,
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in the back too.
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or he had no value,
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blah, blah, blah...
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of Hulk Hogan.
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WCW in October of 1999,
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Monday Nitro.
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you also run into a thing
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they were improving.
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they weren't up.
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but every month,
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the October, the November,
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every month it was down.
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management tells me,
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different direction."
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just, I'll go home.
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on a new idea-
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head of TNT and TBS.
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New champion!
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content entirely different.
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dealing with Eric.
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creative end of it and
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Eric has the same look
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what the hell?
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ten years older than me?
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illegitimate dad?
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kind of fun,
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the company's survival
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downward spiral.
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real life backstage drama,
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Bischoff's veterans and
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who would it be?"
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Booker T."
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everybody said Booker T.
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Jeff Jarrett
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and be victorious,
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a lot of upside,
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vision and bought into it.
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evening was Jeff Jarrett
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to African American wrestlers.
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against Hogan,
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very strong.
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completely different page.
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do didn't freakin' matter.
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control over his storyline
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presented on television.
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of his finishes.
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their bottom line?
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at the Beach that Sunday
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and Hulk is gonna do
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script says.
Copy !req
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up to me and says,
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and talk to Hulk Hogan
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Who's in the trailer?
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and Eric Bischoff.
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break that down,
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two against one.
Copy !req
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discuss it several times?
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oversee him.
Copy !req
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not Vince Russo's call.
Copy !req
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but he didn't.
Copy !req
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came up with a scenario,
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Hulk winning the title.
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the WCW title.
Copy !req
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line between reality and
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angle where Hulk flexes
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to win the belt.
Copy !req
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match in disgust,
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refusal to fight,
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storm out of the ring.
Copy !req
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to leave in a state of
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as a result of the
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Copy !req
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it was that once the WCW
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wasn't coming back and
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belt back,
Copy !req
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then vacate that title,
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tournament for a new
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Champion.
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Halloween Havoc,
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October pay per view,
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in that tournament,
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took place,
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surprise appearance
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448. and say, "Ah-ah-ah,
I still have the belt,
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you've gotta beat me."
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There's your story.
Copy !req
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bullshit the day of a show.
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starting in an hour.
Copy !req
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where I said, "Look,
Copy !req
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with Brad Siegel and
Copy !req
457. we're gonna lay it out,
and we'll let Brad choose."
Copy !req
458. And Brad said, "Go with
Eric's idea." That's it.
Copy !req
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president of the network
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460. who's the tie breaker.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
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back to the way they were.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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this elaborate story,
Copy !req
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with him winning the title.
Copy !req
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story, this ear is listening,
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
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with the title.
Copy !req
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starts at 8 o'clock.
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in that window.
Copy !req
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"Bro"- In his great
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"This is what we're doin'."
Copy !req
476. "Jeff, Hulk doesn't want
to do the job for you.
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Lay down for him.
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478. Let him leave with
his freaking belt.'
Copy !req
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to believe it.
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the back to believe this,
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Copy !req
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"Go to the ring,
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to start the match.
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you're taking a dive.
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486. You're laying down for him."
And I was dumbfounded.
Copy !req
487. And I said, "Vince, this
story is not well thought out.
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logical sense and-
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capture gold this way."
Copy !req
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taste that if a champion
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be a champion,
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wanna beat somebody?
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opposite of that.
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494. And there's a million
other options, I felt,
Copy !req
495. that the audience would say,
"This is the best you guys
Copy !req
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I told Vince this.
Copy !req
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scenario, everybody loses.
Copy !req
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Beach 2000 begins,
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current WCW champion
Copy !req
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dive for Hulk Hogan.
Copy !req
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put the plan in motion,
Copy !req
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having second thoughts.
Copy !req
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to match time,
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overwhelming sense of,
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a part of this mess?
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walk the aisle and
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508. be a part of this finish?"
Copy !req
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went through my mind.
Copy !req
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my grandmother,
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that you really only have
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that's the fans.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
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of the evening...
Copy !req
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I stayed in the back.
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I mean,
Copy !req
519. his music has been playing
for well over a minute,
Copy !req
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What's going on here?
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The Chosen One
Copy !req
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a pay per view.
Copy !req
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quite a while,
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two or three times.
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little tunnel and
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thought through it.
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my own hands and say,
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528. "I'm not doing the dive."
I could, you know,
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529. jump in and make him
punch me around,
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a big boot.
Copy !req
531. What are my real options?
Copy !req
532. What is gonna protect my
family and my career best?
Copy !req
533. So much at stake here.
Copy !req
534. I can't say that I was
legitimately angry.
Copy !req
535. I can say,
thoroughly disgusted.
Copy !req
536. And when I finally said,
"Let's get this over with,"
Copy !req
537. that was where
my head was at.
Copy !req
538. - Here he is.
Copy !req
539. By the time I headed
down the aisle way,
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540. everything in my
mind was, "Hogan,
Copy !req
541. you want your creative
control so bad, take it."
Copy !req
542. You know somethin',
Jeff Jarrett?
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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through this mat,
Copy !req
546. so come on down and get
your ass kicked, Jarrett.
Copy !req
547. Looking across the ring,
and looking at Hulk,
Copy !req
548. and knowing that he
orchestrated all of this...
Copy !req
549. I never, ever looked
at him the same way.
Copy !req
550. What's Jeff doing?
What's Jeff doing?
Copy !req
551. Russo's talking to him,
what's he saying?
Copy !req
552. Russo I think told Jarrett to
lay down, what is going on?
Copy !req
553. Look it, Russo is
holding the belt up like,
Copy !req
554. "Do you want the belt?"
Pin the man, Jarrett's down!
Copy !req
555. I don't, and Hogan is
as shocked as we are.
Copy !req
556. What in the world?
Jeff Jarrett!
Copy !req
557. There's confusion.
Copy !req
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know what's going on.
Copy !req
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wrestling through the
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ability to blur the lines
Copy !req
561. between what's not fiction
and what's fiction.
Copy !req
562. But the old promoter adage,
Copy !req
563. "You confuse them,
you lose them."
Copy !req
564. We confused 'em,
and we lost 'em.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
566. a man that grew up
in this sport!
Copy !req
567. Is there-
what is going on?
Copy !req
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world title to Hogan.
Copy !req
569. What the hell?
Now Russo.
Copy !req
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this plan carries out the
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out in the trailer.
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Hulk Hogan,
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with your belt.
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part of the story.
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Copy !req
577. Wow...
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578. That's why this company is
in the damn shape it's in
Copy !req
579. because of bullshit like this.
Copy !req
580. Referee counted 1,2,3.
Copy !req
581. And I rolled out to the ring
and went straight to the back.
Copy !req
582. My God, this is
real life. 1,2,3.
Copy !req
583. Ladies and gentlemen,
that is not something
Copy !req
584. they go over with us at the
production meeting.
Copy !req
585. No, there are swerves
and there are swerves.
Copy !req
586. We've all been swerved.
Copy !req
587. And we went forward
exactly the way Hulk
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Copy !req
589. The audience believed that
Hulk Hogan was pissed,
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and he left the building.
Copy !req
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with the belt,
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Copy !req
595. We're on the plane,
Copy !req
596. we're high five-ing,
cracking a beer, laughing.
Copy !req
597. Everything went the
way we wanted it to go.
Copy !req
598. As Bischoff and Hogan
leave the arena
Copy !req
599. the show continues,
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600. but what happens next will be
debated by wrestling fans and
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as Vince Russo
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his own hands.
Copy !req
603. Well,
here's Mr. Russo now.
Copy !req
604. What the hell is next?
Copy !req
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the plane lands,
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606. and all of a sudden Hogan's
phone is blowing up.
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607. And so is mine.
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608. Russo went out and
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609. cut this scathing promo
and buried Hulk.
Copy !req
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big, great swerve,
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611. that somehow turned real when
Russo does the promo
Copy !req
612. later and things end up
getting worse.
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613. There's only one way for me
to do this and
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tell it like it is.
Copy !req
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people hate me for.
Copy !req
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the show even started,
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takes a dive,
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building with the belt,
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the WCW audience.
Copy !req
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of everyone,
Copy !req
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way out to the ring.
Copy !req
623. Well, here's
Mr. Russo now.
Copy !req
624. - What the hell is next?
- Now what?
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625. I don't know.
Copy !req
626. Maybe Russo can explain to
the world what we have seen.
Copy !req
627. My entire life, every promo
I've ever cut...
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628. There's only one way for me
to do this and
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629. that's for me to
tell it like it is.
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I'm going to say.
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631. I am in the moment.
Copy !req
632. That's real, and that's
what people believe.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
634. Here's where my character is.
Copy !req
635. Go.
Copy !req
636. Let me tell you people what
happened out here
Copy !req
637. in this ring tonight.
Copy !req
638. All day long I'm playing
politics with Hulk Hogan,
Copy !req
639. because Hulk Hogan,
tonight,
Copy !req
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creative control card.
Copy !req
641. And to Hulk Hogan that
meant that tonight
Copy !req
642. in the middle of this ring,
when he knew it was bullshit,
Copy !req
643. he beats Jeff Jarrett.
Copy !req
644. Because of Russo's
crazy booking style
Copy !req
645. we're all like,
"Is this the plan?
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646. Are they working us?
Copy !req
647. If this was the plan,
it's stupid,
Copy !req
648. and if it's not the plan,
it's even stupider."
Copy !req
649. We're all just sitting
there going,
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650. "What the hell is going on?"
Copy !req
651. And let me tell you who
doesn't give a shit about
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652. this company, that goddamn
politician Hulk Hogan.
Copy !req
653. Hogan got his belt and
he went the hell home,
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654. and I promise everybody or
else I'll go in the goddamn
Copy !req
655. grave, you will never see
that piece of shit again.
Copy !req
656. Adding to the confusion
of the moment,
Copy !req
657. Russo shocks the crowd by
announcing a new main event.
Copy !req
658. Hulk Hogan now
has the WCW belt.
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659. That belt don't mean shit!
Copy !req
660. Jeff Jarrett is still the
official WCW champion and
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tonight in this ring
Copy !req
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663. who for 14 years
has been busting his ass
Copy !req
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a goddamn break,
Copy !req
665. because of the
Hulk Hogan.
Copy !req
666. There were real emotions
Copy !req
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during that promo
Copy !req
668. because I had it up to here
with the wrestling shit.
Copy !req
669. I really did, bro.
Copy !req
670. I was over and I
was done with it.
Copy !req
671. And Hogan, you big bald
son of a bitch,
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672. kiss my ass.
Copy !req
673. That was...
that was not on the formats,
Copy !req
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production meeting,
Copy !req
675. that was nowhere to be found
anywhere until this.
Copy !req
676. We do have Booker T now
against Jeff Jarrett
Copy !req
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Copy !req
678. That was just booked,
that's added to tonight.
Copy !req
679. My plan for the main event,
Booker T beats Jeff Jarrett
Copy !req
680. and becomes the WCW World
Heavyweight Champion.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
682. So, Hogan, congratulations
enjoy the title,
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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be represented
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
687. We've got a new champion!
Oh my God!
Copy !req
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world champion!
Copy !req
689. Booker T is the champ!
Copy !req
690. Oh my God, bro, I knew Hulk
was going to be pissed.
Copy !req
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believing this 1000%,
Copy !req
692. and all I'm reading is,
Copy !req
693. "Vince Russo finally put
Hulk Hogan in his place.
Copy !req
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Hulk Hogan
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said to him years ago."
Copy !req
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I'm saying,
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698. a severe problem with it."
Copy !req
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really angry...
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700. he gets very quiet.
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701. Like,
when he stops talking,
Copy !req
702. that's when you need to
start worrying.
Copy !req
703. And he got real quiet after
that, like, real quiet.
Copy !req
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entire storyline to Hulk and
Copy !req
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and that they agreed.
Copy !req
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that show was
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in that trailer.
Copy !req
708. Everything.
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709. From Jarrett laying down,
to them leaving,
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Copy !req
711. to Booker T winning the
title at the end.
Copy !req
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I laid it out to
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
715. I guarantee you it wasn't
Hulk Hogan's plan.
Copy !req
716. And, by the way, Hulk Hogan
had creative control,
Copy !req
717. and we certainly didn't know
that Booker T was gonna
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718. walk out as the
world champion.
Copy !req
719. Because Hulk Hogan had that
world title and was going to
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at Halloween Havoc.
Copy !req
721. That was the plan.
Copy !req
722. Oh my God, that was
part of the plan!
Copy !req
723. This is a key point.
Copy !req
724. The reason you have to leave
the building is because
Copy !req
725. if I go out there and cut a
scathing promo on you,
Copy !req
726. and you're still
in the building,
Copy !req
727. you're gonna have
to come kill me.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
729. but that's where
the pathological part of
Copy !req
730. being a pathological
liar comes in.
Copy !req
731. None of that was
discussed in advance.
Copy !req
732. None of that was
approved by me.
Copy !req
733. None of it was
approved by Hulk Hogan.
Copy !req
734. It was just the most
unprofessional thing that
Copy !req
735. I'd ever seen in
30 years of television.
Copy !req
736. The next morning an incensed
Hogan calls in to a
Copy !req
737. local Tampa radio show
to rage at Russo.
Copy !req
738. His anger isn't for show,
it's for real.
Copy !req
739. Ha!
Copy !req
740. Did I know that Hulk Hogan
was gonna take legal action?
Copy !req
741. How could you not?
How could you not?
Copy !req
742. Infuriated by the events
at Bash of the Beach,
Copy !req
743. Hulk Hogan takes legal action
against Vince Russo and WCW.
Copy !req
744. Because Hulk Hogan
tonight wants to play
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745. his creative control card.
Copy !req
746. Hogan files lawsuits
for defamation and
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747. breach of contract,
asserting that
Copy !req
748. Russo's off-script tirade
was a part of
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749. the match outcome,
Copy !req
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creative control clause.
Copy !req
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felt double crossed,
Copy !req
752. and whether Russo actually
double crossed him,
Copy !req
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and said shit
Copy !req
754. he shouldn't have,
I have no idea.
Copy !req
755. But it's like, okay,
you don't file lawsuits
Copy !req
756. if this is just part
of a storyline.
Copy !req
757. It gets to a judge and
the judge basically says,
Copy !req
758. "Let me get this straight.
This is a wrestling show.
Copy !req
759. Vince Russo is in
a wrestling ring."
Copy !req
760. "He is cutting a promo
on a wrestling character,
Copy !req
761. where is the defamation
of character?"
Copy !req
762. Like, Hulk, you're really
suing him for this?
Copy !req
763. Shut up.
Copy !req
764. I would not have been a
good witness for that.
Copy !req
765. Strange times.
Copy !req
766. I am cutting my promo
on Hulk Hogan,
Copy !req
767. not Terry Bollea.
This is a story.
Copy !req
768. Vince Russo is a character,
Hulk Hogan is a character.
Copy !req
769. If Vince Russo takes the
position that because he was
Copy !req
770. performing it as a character
that took creative liberties
Copy !req
771. with another professional,
that that somehow makes it
Copy !req
772. legal and okay, is a reflection
of the man's ignorance.
Copy !req
773. He's got more than a problem
with facts and truth,
Copy !req
774. he's got a problem
with reality.
Copy !req
775. And the first judge
threw it out.
Copy !req
776. They appealed it, and it
went to a second judge.
Copy !req
777. First of all, I don't think
that it went to
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to begin with.
Copy !req
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to the Supreme Court
Copy !req
780. for crying out loud.
Copy !req
781. The sworn depositions reveal
a key piece of information-
Copy !req
782. That two days prior
to Bash at the Beach,
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the WCW head office.
Copy !req
784. I found out after the
WCW office is closed,
Copy !req
785. Hulk Hogan's attorney
Copy !req
786. faxes a letter
to the WCW office
Copy !req
787. saying, "Hulk Hogan is not
approving that script."
Copy !req
788. I have no idea of this.
Copy !req
789. Here's why that
doesn't hold up.
Copy !req
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or a debate
Copy !req
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me and Russo,
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we were going to do
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Hulk and I had laid out.
Copy !req
794. It wasn't up for debate,
therefore why would...
Copy !req
795. why would there be this
after hours fax excuse?
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796. I mean, I'm trying to decide
between two dishonest people,
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from twenty years ago,
Copy !req
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Copy !req
799. Yeah, I don't remember
a fax, but, you know,
Copy !req
800. I never heard the fax story.
I'll just say that.
Copy !req
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Hogan's real intentions
Copy !req
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of his creative control,
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Russo proposed.
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in the courtroom,
Copy !req
805. as an appeals court affirms
that fictional characters
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Copy !req
807. However, it's Hogan who
emerges victorious
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Copy !req
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night of Bash at the Beach
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810. that, "I probably
will not get renewed,
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811. so how can I get another
paycheque from
Copy !req
812. AOL Time Warner?"
And that's through litigation.
Copy !req
813. Well, Hulk Hogan was a key
to building the company,
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the biggest name,
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he'd been there too long and
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face of failure.
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817. So, at that point he was
getting paid so much,
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818. but he couldn't draw ratings
to a great degree anymore,
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819. and people weren't going to
go and pay to see Hulk Hogan
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820. matches that they'd seen
for all those years.
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821. There was really nothing
left to do with him.
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822. And then you have
scumbags like Dave Meltzer,
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823. who is nothing more
than a useful idiot.
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824. Even though he calls
himself a journalist,
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825. Dave Meltzer to this day
hates Hulk Hogan.
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826. What Hulk Hogan was trying
to achieve that night
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827. remains clouded
in uncertainty.
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828. You know, I've asked
myself that through the years.
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829. What was Hogan's vision?
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830. What was the upside?
What was the ultimate plan?
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831. Was it to create so
much controversy,
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832. or to get eyeballs
on the product?
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833. Was it to be his version of
a Montreal Screw Job,
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834. or his version of a...
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835. of a publicity stunt?
I don't know.
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836. We certainly know
the results of it,
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837. but I have no idea
what his vision was.
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838. And Turner settled.
I mean-
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839. This is, this is fun.
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840. Because I sat with Hulk and
his attorney Henry Holmes
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841. they day that
they settled that.
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842. They took me out to dinner
and told me what happened.
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843. They never gave me
the amount,
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844. that was confidential,
but I know it was
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845. well, well into
seven figures.
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846. Some folks play chess while
others are playing checkers.
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847. The night at
Bash at the Beach,
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848. Hulk decided to
start playing chess,
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849. and he had the patience,
and he cashed out.
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850. What's Jeff doing?
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851. Russo I think told Jarrett
to lay down, what's going on?
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852. The facts of what actually
went down at
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853. Bash at the Beach 2000
will forever be murky.
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854. But what was clear
to fans that night
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855. was that the chaos and
confusion only
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856. underscored the disorder
and disintegration
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857. at the heart of the company.
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858. It was the reality the
night this happened,
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859. and it's the reality as I
sit here today saying this.
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860. In a business that
gave him everything,
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861. and that's what
he gave back.
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862. It's about the most
self-centred, egotistical,
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863. power playing move,
that only benefitted Hulk.
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864. And that's the reality.
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865. But I mean as far as a
storyline based on
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866. what they were
doing at the time,
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867. it was something that
would get people talking,
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868. and could've built
to something.
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869. So I did like
Booker T being champion,
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870. I thought that was cool.
You know,
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871. it's not same old same old
Hulk Hogan champion, right?
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872. So, I guess I did like that.
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873. I do remember that.
You know thinking, "Ah."
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874. You know, "At least it's
something new."
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875. And let me tell you who
doesn't give a shit about
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876. this company, that goddamn
politician Hulk Hogan.
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877. It was destined for
failure from the beginning.
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878. At the end of it all,
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879. I don't think that
Bash on the Beach
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880. was the nail in
the coffin for WCW.
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881. You see what is
says right here?
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882. This is my ass,
if you will.
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883. You know what I mean?
It was like
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884. the gig was already up.
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885. It was just kind of a
floundering company.
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886. WCW was a star that
became a supernova,
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887. and then burned itself out.
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888. In its dying days, WCW is
snapped up by its longtime
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889. arch-rival Vince McMahon
and the WWF,
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890. despite having an attractive
offer on the table from
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891. a venture capital firm,
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892. spearheaded by
Eric Bischoff.
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893. The deal for us to purchase
WCW was for $67 million,
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894. we buy all the assets,
and we get placement
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895. on Monday nights and
Thursday nights.
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896. That was our deal.
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897. And I get a phone call.
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898. They said,
"Eric, it's done."
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899. I thought he meant
the deal was done.
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900. Like, "Pew!" We own a
wrestling company.
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901. I'm about ready to jump up
and start dancing.
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902. I said,
"You mean it's done?"
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903. He goes, "No, Eric,
you don't get it.
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904. It's over,
there's no deal.
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905. Turner took it off the table."
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906. It took a minute for
that to sink in.
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907. It was a fire sale
at the end.
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908. Time Warner wanted to
get rid of wrestling.
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909. I think it was like $2.5
million for the actual WCW,
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910. and I think it was $1.7
million more for, um,
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911. the tape library.
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912. It was definitely the
equivalent of, um,
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913. you know, buying
Manhattan for $25.
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914. That's right.
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915. I own WCW.
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916. I have zero regrets, man.
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917. I have zero regrets.
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918. You know, regret to me
is a negative thing,
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919. it's like baggage.
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920. I try not to carry any
baggage with me at all.
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921. I've said this
about Vince Russo.
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922. Vince is a guy who's very
passionate, like a lot of us,
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923. and does what he thinks
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924. the viewer wants...
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925. to watch.
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926. And he's had successes
and he's had failures,
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927. like all of us.
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928. Do you know how little
this shit matters?
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929. It is a form of entertainment.
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930. At the end of the day
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931. I don't hate any of
these people, bro.
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932. This was a job.
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933. People ask me all
the time today,
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934. "Vince, what is your advice
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935. to get into the
wrestling business"?
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936. And I tell them, "Don't."
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