1. After a
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Federation's top stars and
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private 757 jet in London
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was a first class seat.
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but it made it more
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talent to travel.
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a triumphant flight in
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nightmare at 30,000 feet.
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get on them flights and
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it was too much.
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there for 7 hours,
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are gonna happen.
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busting each other open.
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Sounds like hell to me.
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the boys are being boys and
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is somebody
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has gone too far?
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intoxicated wrestlers and
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prevent an all-out disaster
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wrestling's most
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what really goes on sometimes,
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in pro wrestling.
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a capsule of what
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like in that era.
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occurrence for
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wrestlers on a plane.
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to probably everyone who is
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professional wrestlers.
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fucking Plane Ride From Hell
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I would be very happy.
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"Shane McMahon".
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unprecedented success,
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across the world.
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really well for the WWE.
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Pay Per View buy rates...
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Garden is sold out!
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Europe, in the States,
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acquires his competitors,
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the industry's biggest players
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of the wrestling world.
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bought my competition.
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burst in wrestling.
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the WWE, nothing else.
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full-time living in
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it was the only place to be.
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and I'm known as the
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from ECW and WCW.
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to find our way in the WWE.
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he'd been planning
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Talent Relations.
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the overall management
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appeared on television.
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size and stature
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their former rivals,
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back returning legends.
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There's the Nature Boy!
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are partners! Yeah!
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guys grew up watching him.
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to take things from
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the locker room
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that talent roster.
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those talents was a
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say the only reason,
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went crazy and blew up.
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millions of dollars.
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the women that came
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the States grew,
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the UK grow.
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travels to Europe for a
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with a sold out
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best crowds when we go
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always amped up,
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looking forward to it.
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pay's pretty good when
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crowds are so big, so...
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110. yeah, I'd say the morale
was high and we were,
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have some good times.
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you may know me as the
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that trip were certainly
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was on the flight.
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118. Brock Lesner was on the flight.
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119. Ric Flair was on the flight,
and many others,
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121. It's a long flight, and we
thought that by chartering a
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we were being
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124. Unfortunately, it, it didn't...
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125. it didn't work out well.
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126. My name is Heidi Doyle,
and in 2002,
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127. I was a flight attendant on the
European charter for the WWE.
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called Sports Jet.
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that flew many of the
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out of the Phoenix area,
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the Phoenix Coyotes.
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132. We also flew the Utah Jazz
and the Mariners.
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133. A normal commercial Boeing 757
would have 190 seats.
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134. And our flight had
50 leather seats.
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ever had in my own house.
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and lounge areas.
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bad way to travel.
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do it privately,
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139. but you also get many benefits.
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gonna be comfortable.
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to deal with anybody
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on the air plane.
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group that's your people.
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to offend anyone.
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the boys are on flights,
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149. and they're a bit obnoxious,
it's kind of like you go,
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152. Hi, I'm Terry Runnels,
and I was a passenger
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the first class section.
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so it was kind of like
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the first class,
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the managers sat up there.
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they were up there.
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were in the back.
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the majority of the wrestlers.
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very back was getting them
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getting the meals out to them.
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they wanted to try all the
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were on the airplane.
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to all of us a lot.
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he was kind of like
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I would say.
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and he was very,
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flirty, I think.
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of getting too comfortable,
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can always just create a
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people can have different
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of comfortableness.
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there's no problems.
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flight across the Atlantic,
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its first stop on the tour,
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affect these other cultures,
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let me tell you what.
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the WWE and it was very,
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enlightening experience,
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with us almost every day.
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some were partying
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wrestlers, at the bars.
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these flight attendants,
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would party with you,
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in the back, drink with you.
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Wrestling Entertainment
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meet up with some
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down at the bar.
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at the same hotel,
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a 5-minute cab ride.
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drinks when the wrestlers
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first match in Germany.
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with them that first night.
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work after having a baby and
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resting in my room.
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service and not have to
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hours of the night.
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one match in Germany.
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wrestler in Germany,
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really stoked.
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Saturday night because
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Pay Per View aired,
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Pay Per View Insurrection.
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sold out in 21 minutes!
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happy with their performances.
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more happy to get
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daughter for the first time and,
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to go see her, yeah, yeah.
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home is quickly deflated
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delivered troubling news.
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we taxied out onto the tarmac.
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from Connecticut.
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there was a weather delay,
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thought 20 minutes,
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tarmac for a little while.
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you would all be familiar with
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bottles that you serve.
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ran out of alcohol.
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cart was ordered,
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And that was also drank.
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one was ordered.
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done it ever before,
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through three, yeah.
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varsity football team,
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except they can't
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and cases of beer.
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A bunch of high school guys.
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really like giving it too much.
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the drinks still.
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themselves the drinks and
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on the ground.
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try to cut us off,
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gotten to that booze.
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a couple thousand dollars
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"Here, take this,
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we're gonna get that liquor."
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absolutely.
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they're finally going home
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now to really
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and become... stupid.
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of 'em chose to do.
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grueling hours grounded on
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an unlimited supply of alcohol,
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WWF's private charter
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finally cleared for takeoff.
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we'd been up in the air
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very evident that
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get drunk in one hour.
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pills or anything like that,
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stuff that were around,
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period, in one hour.
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and pills in the WWE.
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doctor's prescriptions,
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doctor's prescription,
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write us whatever we wanted.
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Placidyl?
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were in the early 90s.
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GHB and Halcions on the flight.
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we took sometimes
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long period of time.
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use 'em for a rib, too.
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used to be called H Bombing,
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dropping these H bombs
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the mark to pass out.
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could have their way with them,
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I mean, this was...
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that I've been.
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they can't stand up,
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faculties, is funny.
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Michael got H bombs.
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creative at that point in time.
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officially an agent,
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through several names,
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could have been in there,
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the night of the Pay Per View.
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Michael Hayes just
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reopened the wound.
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bleeding all over his shirt.
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and knocked him out.
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chanting for X-Pac.
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sweetest guys in the world.
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him The Trailer Hitch 'cause
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big load of Hall and Nash.
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get my hands on Austin.
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accepted so badly,
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a main event guy.
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burying me in the booking
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fucking pony tail, that mullet.
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I grabbed that fucking tail
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and I just went, whack!
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holding up the title,
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not allowed to sleep
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with a shaved eye brow.
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have one eye open,
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a plane full of the boys.
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stuff because you didn't
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by with shaving cream.
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lift your shades up,
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you have a chance of
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out real quick.
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guard for any potential hijinks,
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in the presence of one of
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legendary pranksters.
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expect from Mr. Perfect?
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rib-ers in the business.
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play with Brock.
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his chair and, Curt Hennig...
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cream on his head.
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splat it on his head.
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Brock is chasing Curt,
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you know, like...
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Brock went right behind him.
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just swoops him up.
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Brock Lesnar, who's 6 "4.
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the guys had to move.
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one side of the fuselage,
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overhead bins got broken,
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arm rests got broken up.
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one of the seats,
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seat came completely off.
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can do to stop these two men.
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thing I can do to get them
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had commandeered our PA.
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the fight going on,
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yelling at the airplane,
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we're all gonna die."
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to the back of the airplane,
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two men to stop
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against the fuselage.
Copy !req
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even listen to him.
Copy !req
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illustrious agents said,
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come back here."
Copy !req
418. So, I go back there and
they're play fighting.
Copy !req
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play fighting in the
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Copy !req
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they hit the emergency door.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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and we're like, "Stop, stop!"
Copy !req
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that finally got it to stop
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
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to pop that security door,
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to find out at 30,000 feet
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
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happens if that door opened?"
Copy !req
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it's physically impossible
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Copy !req
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knowing the door couldn't
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throwing each other
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And if that fuselage breaks,
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Copy !req
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emergency landing,
Copy !req
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if you're over the Atlantic?
Copy !req
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that they are, of wrestlers,
Copy !req
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through a wall in a house.
Copy !req
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a wall on an airplane?
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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Brock is so big.
Copy !req
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big bear is right, man.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
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to the business,
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Copy !req
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Pay Per View.
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Copy !req
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I was doing interviews.
Copy !req
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the tag team match.
Copy !req
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And I hear my name called.
Copy !req
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Dustin was in the room -
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Copy !req
459. And, Brock did
the whole thing. I, I...
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dressing room and
Copy !req
461. Dustin came, he's like,
"Don't sell it."
Copy !req
462. I'm like, "I'm not selling it.
I didn't sell it. Not gonna."
Copy !req
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leave it alone.
Copy !req
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Lesnar's behaviour on the plane.
Copy !req
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any advances or reported
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to, to Terri Runnels.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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have happened.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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best of my ability
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
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acting like an adult.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
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brawl at 30,000 feet,
Copy !req
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in as the WWF roster is
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television the following day.
Copy !req
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you know,
Copy !req
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some rest now.
Copy !req
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you know, sleeping.
Copy !req
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this very familiar voice.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
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"Pledging My Love".
Copy !req
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my love will be true.
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I'll love only you.
Copy !req
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mortified.
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drifted off to sleep is now
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Copy !req
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back there and tell him to stop.
Copy !req
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across the aisle,
Copy !req
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he's like...
Copy !req
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don't sell it."
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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smartest way to deal
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Just don't sell it.
Copy !req
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little bit easier.
Copy !req
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a tune in a bucket.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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obviously hurting, you know.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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anyone hurting like that.
Copy !req
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given me my microphone back.
Copy !req
508. It got uncomfortable,
it got uncomfortable.
Copy !req
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JR had to stop that.
Copy !req
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up to Dustin and said...
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
514. Eventually he passed out and
that's how we got our PA back.
Copy !req
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the microphone from him.
Copy !req
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to be on that flight that night
Copy !req
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probably one of the worst
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Copy !req
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trying to do their job and
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to get home, you know,
Copy !req
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very disheartening for them,
Copy !req
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I'm sure.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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no signs of slowing down.
Copy !req
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that occurred with Ric Flair,
Copy !req
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very uncomfortable.
Copy !req
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Ric Flair would put on
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anything else and,
Copy !req
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and then open it up and, woo!
Copy !req
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everyone'd see Ric
Copy !req
531. coming out naked in his robe.
Copy !req
532. And so, he did it on the
airplane for everybody and,
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guys want to see,
Copy !req
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Copy !req
535. He could move his
hips and twirl it.
Copy !req
536. And so,
his well-endowed penis...
Copy !req
537. spins around like a helicopter.
Copy !req
538. So, hey, he's the
Nature Boy for a reason.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
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you know where
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your own safe place.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
545. And that may have happened.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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kitchen area on an airplane.
Copy !req
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naked in a cape only,
Copy !req
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to the galley to get a Coke.
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wouldn't leave the galley.
Copy !req
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against the back door.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
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I couldn't move.
Copy !req
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his penis and
Copy !req
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Copy !req
557. he, he took my hand and,
and put it on him.
Copy !req
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try to impose by force
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Copy !req
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and in profile,
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Ric Flair stuff where
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to laugh about it.
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someone took offense to it.
Copy !req
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the flight attendant, like,
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there by the bathroom
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566. where it's like real skinny and
you can't fit two people
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Copy !req
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crowding her and,
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her touch him and stuff.
Copy !req
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back there for,
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really long time.
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like, it was minutes.
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and he didn't, he wouldn't.
Copy !req
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really helping me except for
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Copy !req
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he told Ric Flair that
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alone, eventually.
Copy !req
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he should leave alone.
Copy !req
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didn't get as angry about
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should have, you know.
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to help me and
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one that did, yeah.
Copy !req
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been well documented.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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substance abuse.
Copy !req
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favours putting him
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resume his routines.
Copy !req
590. And we didn't do him justice,
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know how bad it was.
Copy !req
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think we should have known,
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Copy !req
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who had just woken up.
Copy !req
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breakfast, and...
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pulled me down and
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he was gonna do to me.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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but what I do remember is,
Copy !req
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me he was gonna lick me.
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try do that, which...
Copy !req
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say scary 'cause that might
Copy !req
607. sound too dramatic, but it
was a moment of great...
Copy !req
608. violation, discomfort,
to have a person put their
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wanting them to do that and
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you ask them to.
Copy !req
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a level of fear,
Copy !req
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and you're doing your job,
Copy !req
613. and now you have to be afraid
that you're gonna get hurt.
Copy !req
614. It didn't feel to me that he was
gonna let go any time soon.
Copy !req
615. And then he passed out.
Copy !req
616. And I was able to, you know,
dislodge him from me.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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pills and drinking for a lot
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and I was out.
Copy !req
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with Scott Hall,
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Copy !req
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angry at me for that.
Copy !req
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food and drinks,
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625. and I was done.
Copy !req
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of the galley again.
Copy !req
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14 nightmarish hours
Copy !req
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passengers and crew
Copy !req
629. finally touch down
on American soil.
Copy !req
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heard the door open...
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631. yeah, it was a very, very
excellent feeling to
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Atlantic anymore.
Copy !req
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It was a very long flight.
Copy !req
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drinks, cups, food stepped on.
Copy !req
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they're passing by
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bags and this and that.
Copy !req
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normal flight so,
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Copy !req
640. I think they were actually
worried he was dead, you know.
Copy !req
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stressed, like,
Copy !req
642. they got a dead person
on this flight now.
Copy !req
643. And like, oh, boy,
don't worry, he'll kick out.
Copy !req
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it's like...
Copy !req
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Copy !req
646. He wouldn't wake up.
Copy !req
647. So, I'm picking him up and I
had to get him a wheelchair
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through customs myself.
Copy !req
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on him, laid him there,
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Copy !req
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had to say that
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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Razor through,
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And there's Jim Ross.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
656. and just looking
at me with disgust.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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I didn't do anything.
Copy !req
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Michael Hayes woke up and
Copy !req
660. his ponytail was missing.
Copy !req
661. And Michael Hayes was
pissed off about it.
Copy !req
662. He was hell-bent to
find out who did it.
Copy !req
663. "You know who did it,
you know who did it."
Copy !req
664. And, would have fought the
entire plane if he could've.
Copy !req
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he was really angry.
Copy !req
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we started to pick up the
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Copy !req
668. and there was blood.
Copy !req
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in seatback pockets
Copy !req
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And I'm going,
Copy !req
671. "Oh, no, we're not
cleaning this airplane.
Copy !req
672. We're gonna get
off right now."
Copy !req
673. And my superior was saying,
Copy !req
674. "No, you need to
clean the airplane."
Copy !req
675. Me just walking
off the airplane, you know.
Copy !req
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or American or whatever,
Copy !req
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Copy !req
678. the FBI would have
been waiting on us.
Copy !req
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repercussions, for sure.
Copy !req
680. There should have been some.
Copy !req
681. I don't know, they did
have repercussions,
Copy !req
682. I learned later, but...
Copy !req
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'cause they knew they had
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'cause it didn't look
Copy !req
685. real good for Vince McMahon's
organization, I don't think.
Copy !req
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I'm taking ownership.
Copy !req
687. But it was a,
it was a black eye.
Copy !req
688. Good thing about a
black eye, you heal.
Copy !req
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Vince McMahon and Jim Ross
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690. urgently meet to discuss
repercussions for the
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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everything was getting
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Vince on the flight,
Copy !req
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It got out of control.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
696. I don't know what Vince
was doing this whole time.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
698. Vince was well aware of it,
but it was my job to handle.
Copy !req
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embarrassed about it
Copy !req
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It was my job to handle.
Copy !req
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makes the decisions,
Copy !req
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who has to execute them.
Copy !req
703. Jim Ross is the guy who
has to fire you as well.
Copy !req
704. Jim Ross is the guy
who has to tell you,
Copy !req
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Copy !req
706. He's the guy who
has to fine you.
Copy !req
707. That's that position.
Copy !req
708. It wasn't a tough decision
on my part to cut some guys
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Copy !req
710. it's what Vince McMahon
told me to do.
Copy !req
711. And the guy that writes the
cheques has the last say.
Copy !req
712. I was troubled by Curt's firing.
Copy !req
713. I just thought he had a
bad night with the boys.
Copy !req
714. He had a reputation of being
kind of a practical joker.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
716. And you kind of
figure maybe, okay,
Copy !req
717. Curt got fired, but
then he's gonna come back
Copy !req
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around at some point,
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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not too far after that.
Copy !req
721. And Razor, I think it was
just his drug addiction that
Copy !req
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kind of slipped away there.
Copy !req
723. We let Scott go
Copy !req
724. within hours after he got back
to the, to the States.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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at home and, you know,
Copy !req
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we made a mistake.
Copy !req
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get back on the road.
Copy !req
729. Until you're better suited
to handle your demons,
Copy !req
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your comfort zone,"
Copy !req
731. which meant at home, primarily.
Copy !req
732. Dustin Rhodes is one of my
favourite people in the world.
Copy !req
733. We go back a long way.
Copy !req
734. I don't know if it was just
the rebound of his divorce
Copy !req
735. with Terri, what it was,
but he was in a,
Copy !req
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But, no excuse.
Copy !req
737. So, you know, he was
dipping his snuff and
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738. using a seatback cushion
as a spittoon.
Copy !req
739. I had two options: fine him
Copy !req
740. and I would get his
attention, or fire him.
Copy !req
741. Which I thought was extreme
and did not need to happen.
Copy !req
742. That was my call.
Copy !req
743. He learned from his mistakes.
Copy !req
744. He was immature.
Copy !req
745. He had substance abuse issues.
Copy !req
746. And, sometimes he controlled
'em and sometimes he didn't.
Copy !req
747. But the bottom
line is, is that...
Copy !req
748. we have to stop in our
society letting others'
Copy !req
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without punishment.
Copy !req
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Copy !req
751. Ah...
Copy !req
752. I guess...
Copy !req
753. lack of a better term,
he was a made man.
Copy !req
754. And he was such a high
level made man that...
Copy !req
755. he got a pass.
Copy !req
756. Was it the right thing to do?
Copy !req
757. I don't know.
Copy !req
758. You're listening to it,
folks, you decide.
Copy !req
759. He got a pass.
Copy !req
760. As the WWF deals with the
fallout from the flight,
Copy !req
761. Heidi is forced to
consider her next steps.
Copy !req
762. I remember walking off
the airplane on the tarmac.
Copy !req
763. Then we went to a hotel that
was quite nearby and talking
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764. about how horrible, like,
and the girls from the front
Copy !req
765. saying they didn't
know that it was that,
Copy !req
766. you know, that it was that bad.
Copy !req
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my hotel room and
Copy !req
768. I took a shower and I cried.
Copy !req
769. I called Sports Jet.
Copy !req
770. They said that it was
unfortunate that that
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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we kept it to ourself,
Copy !req
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with professional athletes
Copy !req
774. and things happen on airplanes.
Copy !req
775. And they let us know it was
expected that we would...
Copy !req
776. respect the
privacy of our clients.
Copy !req
777. So, then you have to
figure out how you tell
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"How was your trip?"
Copy !req
779. "Well, it wasn't excellent."
Copy !req
780. What do you tell your husband?
Copy !req
781. It can even create...
Copy !req
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they say, "Well,
Copy !req
783. why did that happen to you?
Copy !req
784. What did you do to make
them do that to you?"
Copy !req
785. And I would say that might
be the worst question
Copy !req
786. you could ever ask somebody
who's been hurt because
Copy !req
787. you already feel a sense of,
what did I do?
Copy !req
788. Did I smile?
Copy !req
789. Was I too nice to
him or did I...?
Copy !req
790. And, then you feel almost
like you've done
Copy !req
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Copy !req
792. But I know another girl,
there was another girl
Copy !req
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upset about things that
Copy !req
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had occurred to her.
Copy !req
795. She went to a lawyer and
then she contacted me and
Copy !req
796. said I should do that as well.
Copy !req
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every time something
Copy !req
798. like that happened
to me, dear god,
Copy !req
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Copy !req
800. all my adult life.
Copy !req
801. My sense of it was that the
company wanted to
Copy !req
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Copy !req
803. take it off our books...
Copy !req
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those that had complaints,
Copy !req
805. and then move on.
Copy !req
806. There was an agreement
that was reached and,
Copy !req
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they offered us a settlement.
Copy !req
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the story told to the public,
Copy !req
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protect our daughter,
Copy !req
810. or himself, us, I don't know.
Copy !req
811. So, he was very, very
supportive of the settlement.
Copy !req
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to be that compensation,
Copy !req
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truth, and honesty,
Copy !req
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Copy !req
815. But money is, money is
what ends up on the table,
Copy !req
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also buys your silence,
Copy !req
817. which then can add to
another layer of the guilt
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818. of a victim, like it can...
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819. it can be a cycle
that's not good, yeah.
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820. Perpetually bad.
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821. If that's how she felt,
maybe she should have
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822. not taken a payout and went to
the fullest extent of the law...
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823. to then truly put this
heinous person in jail.
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824. My opinion.
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825. People have their own
opinions of what happened.
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826. What, what the damage was.
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827. Though no one should really
have an opinion when it
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828. didn't happen to them,
but they do.
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829. They say, you know,
"Well, it wasn't that bad.
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830. You're okay, aren't you?"
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831. And now you have
to live with it,
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832. a pain or a memory of
something that you didn't
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833. bring about and that
takes some work, yeah.
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834. After the exhausting
European tour,
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835. wrestlers and management
report for a live taping of
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836. Monday Night Raw, a mere
24 hours after the plane
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837. touched down in Connecticut.
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838. We had TV that day, on Monday.
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839. And, of course, the talent's,
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840. "Hey, JR. Hey, JR."
"What?"
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841. "Did you see what they
did to Hayes' ponytail?"
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842. "No, what?"
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843. Michael Hayes' ponytail
was put into a sandwich bag.
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844. It was taped to the
locker room door
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845. at Raw on Monday,
until I saw it.
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846. And I took it down,
threw it away.
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847. Exposure of these scandalous
events would mark a
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848. turning point for the WWF,
propelling it to reign in
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849. the public antics
of its performers.
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850. In a symbolic twist of fate,
the aftermath of the
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851. infamous Plane Ride from
Hell coincided on the
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852. same day the company
was legally forced to
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853. rebrand its identity.
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854. Can you imagine that, JR?
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855. We're getting the 'F' out.
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856. Young talents coming in the
business after that era
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857. had heard all the stories,
saw the remnants,
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858. saw guys that had made
millions of dollars not have
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859. two quarters to rub together.
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860. And, I think they learned
from their predecessors.
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861. Nice job.
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862. It's a different culture.
It's a different era.
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863. I think that's the upshot,
and maybe good news,
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864. that incidents like
the Plane Ride from Hell
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865. smartened some of
these younger kids up.
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866. "I want to be in the
wrestling business.
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867. I've always idolized this guy,
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868. but I do know I'm
not gonna pattern my,
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869. some of my career
after this guy."
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870. Make good choices that way.
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871. I think that there's
definitely a sense of
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872. the cliché, never
meet your heroes.
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873. The people who have watched
for generations and got them
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874. through their lives, I don't
think that they all need to
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875. see Ric Flair doing the
helicopter with his penis.
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876. Like, I don't...
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877. I don't really think it's
good for everybody to know
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878. this about their heroes,
you know.
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879. Some of these guys are freaks.
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880. I feel this is trying to
portray someone
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881. as a sexual predator,
and it's not.
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882. It's a joke, it's a gag.
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883. And, today, 1000% inappropriate.
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884. My hairstyle is
inappropriate right now.
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885. I am somehow offending
someone right now
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886. with my double ponytail.
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887. How dare I have two ponytails.
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888. And my answer is,
I'm 50 years old.
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889. I'm happy I have hair.
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890. But, if you're asking me,
I've hung out with Ric Flair.
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891. I've never seen him try to
force his will against anybody.
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892. I don't feel that his
intent was to rape me.
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893. But, what he did was wrong.
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894. It was wrong and, he goes to
sleep that night and thinks
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895. he made it back from his
wrestling trip in Europe and
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896. maybe he has a headache
'cause he had
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897. too many cocktails
on the airplane.
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898. And yet, that night I
didn't go to sleep.
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899. My trip to work, my...
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900. my trip to get money to
support my daughter becomes
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901. a memory that is mine
forever to live with.
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902. Like, I get to live with
that fact I had to see a
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903. naked man and get my face
licked by a man that I was
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904. there to make sure he got
from point A to point B, safe.
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905. And they went to sleep and
thought they made it
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906. home safe and sound and,
so goes on the world, you know.
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907. I was uncomfortable coming
to talk about this 'cause
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908. you see some stories
told and then people get
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909. ridiculed or they,
everything picked apart as
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910. what they did wrong
when they're just
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911. telling their story.
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912. But, if one person that
listens to this says,
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913. "Oh, my gosh, I might
have acted like that towards
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914. somebody and I didn't
even realize I did it," or,
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915. if one person hears it that had
something happen to them,
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916. that they didn't like and they
didn't feel they could
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917. speak about it 'cause
they'd get in trouble or
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918. they were made to feel that
they created the situation
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919. and might have
made it happen, like,
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920. if it can change it
for one person,
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921. I'd sit and have this
conversation 25 times again.
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922. The truth,
the truth can be scary,
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923. and the truth can
be ugly and messy,
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924. but at the end of
the day, the truth,
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925. it's the thing
that makes us better,
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