1. In 1995, a group of
professional wrestlers
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communist-ruled North Korea,
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3. to partake in one of the
most bizarre diplomatic
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4. missions ever conceived.
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5. What could be more
international than having
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6. two big shows in
Pyongyang, North Korea?
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7. Vince can't do that.
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8. I run out and I look up,
and I actually see the stadium,
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9. and the crowd, and the people.
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10. And I just stop.
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11. Over 300,000 locals gathered
to witness Collision in Korea.
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12. It was unbelievable.
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13. A wrestling extravaganza
orchestrated in the name of
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14. world peace, which in reality,
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15. casts wrestlers as unwitting
players in a high-risk act
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16. of political theatre.
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17. You realize you're
surrounded by a bunch of
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18. people that think
you're the devil.
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19. I mean, we were
totally under their control.
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20. You walk out the room,
bam, they're there.
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21. You go in the library,
bam, those guys was there.
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22. Under the strict surveillance
of North Korean authorities...
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23. We're living the wrestling life.
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24. You hit North Korea, man,
that shit stops, like boom!
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25. Wrestlers found
themselves trapped
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26. in a surreal nightmare.
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27. It was like being in
The Twilight Zone.
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28. And helplessly in
over their heads,
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29. leaving some
fighting for their lives.
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30. Next thing we know,
somebody's punching somebody.
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31. I'm gonna run,
jump off these stairs,
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32. and I'm gonna curb
stomp him to death.
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33. I mean, it was just like,
thumbs down, kill 'em.
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34. My name is Eric Bischoff,
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35. coming to you from
Cody, Wyoming.
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36. Spent a couple minutes in the
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37. professional
wrestling business...
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38. And now I spend all my
time looking back upon it.
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39. Well, as I said when
I first got to WCW
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40. as a announcer, I was like a
fly on the wall, you know.
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41. I got to see things
happening from a perspective
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42. that sometimes the current
management didn't see.
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43. There was a lot of
financial abuse,
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44. and some fraud and theft
that I saw a lot of in WCW
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45. as that fly on the wall.
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46. So, when I finally got the
opportunity to run WCW and
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47. was made Vice President,
I instituted a lot of changes.
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48. By 1994, WCW was still seen
as a regional promotion,
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49. and if it had any chance
of competing against the
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50. powerhouse brand of WWF,
Eric Bischoff had to reach
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51. a wider, global
wrestling audience.
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52. Make no mistake about it,
WCW is set to dominate the
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53. globe when it comes to
professional wrestling.
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54. One of the first things I
did was reestablish a
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55. failed relationship with
New Japan Pro Wrestling.
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56. You know, WCW had
engaged in some...
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57. shaky tactics and, and left
the Japanese with a very
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58. bitter taste in their mouth
in terms of doing business
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59. with Americans.
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60. From the land
of the rising sun, The Great...
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61. Muta!
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62. So, we wanted to reengage
New Japan Pro Wrestling and,
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63. just to see if I could
possibly resurrect that
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64. relationship and it went
really well and we did,
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65. and I started bringing a lot
of the top Japanese stars
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66. over to the United States
on a real consistent basis.
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67. Steiner Brothers!
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68. But also, to do the
same thing with our
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69. WCW talent over in Japan.
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70. Because that way, our talent
was getting more exposure
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71. in that market, their talent
was getting great exposure
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72. in our market and
everybody's happy.
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73. With increased
international exposure,
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74. WCW was gaining traction,
but still lagged behind WWF
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75. when it came to
drawing power and
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76. staging mammoth events.
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77. Over 80,000 fans!
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78. All that was about to change
when Eric Bischoff was
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79. offered a once-in-a-lifetime
opportunity.
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80. Antonio Inoki, who was
the Chairman of
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81. New Japan Pro Wrestling,
founder,
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82. reached out to me,
asking me if I would be
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83. willing and interested in
bringing all our WCW roster
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84. over to North Korea
to compete in a peace festival.
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85. Antonio Inoki, wow, he's,
he's really kind of an enigma.
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86. He was the Vince McMahon
of Japan is probably
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87. the best way to say it.
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well-known wrestling
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89. personalities in Japan,
and a great athlete.
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90. He was just the most popular
professional wrestler
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91. I've ever seen in my life,
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92. and I've been around
almost off of 'em.
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93. I'm Professional Wrestler,
Scott Norton.
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94. Now... oh!
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95. I was touring in Japan,
doing my arm wrestling stuff.
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96. I was the world champion,
and that's what led me
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97. to be a professional wrestler.
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98. And so, that's when I
started learning about Inoki.
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99. One of his favourite
moves in wrestling,
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100. he would slap the
taste buds out your mouth.
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101. And when he slapped you,
it was in there.
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102. What's up?
How y'all doing?
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103. This is 2 Cold Scorpio.
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104. One of the most famous
high flyers in the world.
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105. Waz up!
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106. Scorpio's going to the top.
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107. - Oh!
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108. Oh, my!
Oh, my gosh!
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109. After me being trained in Japan
and being there for years,
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110. I would have to let people know,
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111. Inoki is somebody
like Hulk Hogan,
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112. but two times above
that level in Japan.
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113. While Inoki was operating
his wrestling company,
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114. he was also a fairly
high profile politician.
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115. And, became really one of
the most famous people in Japan.
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116. Inoki constantly
defied the limits
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117. of professional wrestling
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118. by staging events that made
international headlines
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119. for their shocking audacity.
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120. In 1976, Inoki boldly
combined wrestling and
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121. boxing for a match against
the legendary Muhammad Ali.
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122. He also used the sport to
successfully negotiate the
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123. release of Japanese
hostages held in Iraq.
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124. But bringing wrestlers into
the heart of North Korea
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125. was designed to
eclipse them all.
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126. Among Inoki's more
unpopular moves
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127. were frequent trips to
North Korea and meeting with
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128. officials from the
reclusive regime.
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129. Antonio Inoki asked me
if I could help him
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130. get a meeting with Muhammad Ali.
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131. You know, I called Muhammad Ali
and he got excited about it
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132. immediately because
he lived most of his life
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133. trying to be an ambassador
to world peace and he really
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134. believed in breaking down
barriers of cultures and
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135. religion and race,
and he didn't hesitate, at all.
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136. So, I thought, man,
if I put that piece of the
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137. puzzle together, I get the rest
of my team together...
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138. sure, I've never been
to Pyongyang, North Korea.
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139. Let's do that!
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140. That was a comedy.
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141. Inoki wanted Hogan.
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142. Hulk was the biggest name in
wrestling at that point in time.
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143. It would make a lot of news,
it would be good for Inoki
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144. and his political career.
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145. I did ask, but it
was a short answer.
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146. "Hm... can't make
that one, brother."
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147. That was it, man.
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148. It was a five-minute
conversation.
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149. Ric Flair.
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150. - Woo!
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151. While he may not have been
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152. quite as popular as
Hulk Hogan, nationwide,
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153. he had such a fantastic
reputation of being able to
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154. put on a great match with
just about anybody...
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155. to my face, he was all for it,
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156. he was excited about it.
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157. I think, subsequently, I learned
that his feelings were hurt
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158. just a little bit knowing he
was the second choice.
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159. Alright... we're sitting in
the locker room,
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160. just got done
working out before a show.
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161. Hattori and Masa come
into the locker room.
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162. They go, "Scott-san?"
I said, "Yes?"
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163. He says, "We have big match,
North Korea, next month.
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164. You on it."
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165. Then I look around the
locker room and the
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166. Japanese boys are
just going nuts,
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167. and they're squabbling back
and forth, they're talking.
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168. I'm going, what the
hell is going on?
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169. So, I went over
to Chono, I says,
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170. "Chono," I says,
"What's going on?"
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171. He says,
"We go North Korea?"
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172. And I says, "That's what
Masa just told me,
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173. we're going to North Korea."
He says, "They want us dead.
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174. They don't like
us very much."
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175. And I go, "Okay."
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176. It was a little
bit controversial,
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177. which is one of the reasons
that Inoki was trying to
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178. establish this rapport with
the North Koreans because
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179. the Japanese and
North Koreans had been
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180. killing each other for
thousands of years,
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181. and there's no love lost between
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183. And tonight, after just
returning from
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184. a tour of Japan...
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185. For me, I was very
excited to go to
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186. another place in the world.
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187. Every place I've ever been,
South Africa, India,
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188. everything I've ever been
is because of wrestling.
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189. So, for me to be able to
have a chance to go over to
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190. North Korea was like,
man, I've never been
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191. to a communist country.
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192. I had no idea what
it was gonna be like.
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193. I didn't know the
difference being in America,
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194. being in a communist country,
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195. I had no clue, none whatsoever.
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196. Ah... It's definitely a
different experience for me.
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197. When it came to
traveling to North Korea,
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198. the United States
government, even then,
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199. viewed North Korea as a
much more hostile
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200. potential enemy, so
Americans were not
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201. supposed to be in North Korea.
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202. And even going to the
federal government to get
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203. permission to do something,
it could take 6 months to
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204. get a yes or a no,
so I just said,
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205. "Yeah, I'm just gonna go."
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206. My boss didn't even
know I was doing it.
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207. Joining Ric Flair, Scott Norton,
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208. and 2 Cold Scorpio on
the trip would be
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Chris Benoit,
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211. and some of New Japan Pro
Wrestling's top performers.
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212. But no one could match the
star power of one of
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recognizable celebrities.
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Muhammad Ali was gonna be
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all time, you know,
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217. and I'm just going, holy smokes.
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218. So, when we got to
the airport in Japan,
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219. it's me, Flair,
Steiners, Hawk, Benoit.
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220. We're all standing there,
and the airport's just packed.
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221. There's reporters everywhere.
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222. Then all of a sudden, this
commotion comes rolling in.
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223. And it's Muhammad Ali
with his entourage.
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224. And all the reporters
that were on us just went...
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225. And all of a sudden,
he comes right to me,
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magic tricks for everybody.
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227. And we all, "Whoa!"
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228. And he had the
biggest smile on his face.
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229. It just made him happy.
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230. Then a lot of people were a
lot more comfortable
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231. because you got Inoki
and Muhammad Ali,
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sent over a plane...
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you couldn't, you know,
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a flight to Pyongyang.
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236. That was the moment, when we
all got on that plane, and...
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military transport,
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238. wasn't the safest-looking plane.
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you know,
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like made in the 40s,
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242. and I'm telling ya,
it was a piece of garbage.
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243. Flair was the funniest.
"We can't fly on this thing.
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244. We can't... "He's just
losing it, I mean...
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245. And it just kind of set
the tone before we even got
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you were, you were about
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started sensing people
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250. So, we're flying
over and, man,
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252. I had the window
seat so, for me,
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253. I seen the south
side of South Korea,
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254. then all of a sudden, as you
get closer to the border,
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you know, set up,
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aiming toward the north.
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257. But we kept flying over,
we seen all the north tanks and
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south on this ridge,
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259. it's like, man,
this look like war time.
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260. I was like, okay, what am I
really getting myself into?
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261. And when the plane landed,
they finally brought
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got off the plane.
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263. We were all standing around...
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and there's nobody.
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265. And, we're getting our bags.
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266. We're walking to the airport.
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267. Once we got inside, it was
caked with dust this high.
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268. It was unbelievable.
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269. Nobody's been in
this room forever.
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270. And all of a sudden,
these military people
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"Where's your passport?"
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272. I had it in an inside pocket,
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273. and I went in and I grabbed
my passport like this and
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274. I'm looking back at my bag,
and he just snatched it.
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275. I said, "What the
are you doing?"
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when you do what we do.
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277. They took my Walkman,
they took the tapes.
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278. Anything to do with America,
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279. they didn't want it
in their country.
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280. And Flair went nuts.
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281. He goes, "Scott,
they got our passports.
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take everything?"
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283. They hated us. I mean,
you got that right away.
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284. I'm in a communist country.
You took my passport.
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285. Now what's gonna happen to us?
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286. Going to North Korea is a
really strange experience.
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287. It's like going
through the looking glass.
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288. It's an utterly different
society for somebody like
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up in the States.
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290. We are accompanied by guides,
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291. and we do have some
limits on where else
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293. I'm Mike Chinoy.
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294. I was a foreign
correspondent for CNN,
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295. and one of the assignments
that I had was to cover
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296. this big wrestling event
in North Korea.
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297. The wrestling event in 1995
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298. has to rank as one
of the weirdest,
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that I witnessed
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300. as a journalist because
you had this combination
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303. largely cut off from the
rest of the world
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304. and certainly cut off
from North America.
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305. And then, suddenly,
in the middle of this,
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eccentric characters from
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and Muhammad Ali,
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North Korea and being
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which the North Koreans
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it was this absolutely
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almost, you could call,
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313. Upon their arrival,
the wrestlers are greeted
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but unbeknownst to them,
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beginning of what's to come.
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316. We were paired off into two's.
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our cars that assigned
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to be with us 24/7.
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320. My attaché, she told me that
I was only the 7th American
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that hadn't been
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323. Right there, that moment,
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324. that puts everything
into perspective.
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325. And this is the pass
that they gave us,
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My nationality.
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328. They wanted to keep track of us,
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329. you know, that was,
that was the big, main thing.
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330. My name is Sonny Onoo.
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331. I was the evil Japanese manager
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Wrestling.
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out with, you know,
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and New Japan Pro Wrestling.
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335. I was told by my
government, "Hey,
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336. we can't guarantee your safety.
You shouldn't go."
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337. We were evil,
including the Japanese.
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338. That's what their propaganda is,
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339. and so, the first
thing we were told is,
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340. "You can't do this.
You can't do that."
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341. And, you know, "By the way,
don't rape our women."
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at the beginning of the
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ruled North Korea
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and there is tremendous
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348. The first stop on our way to
the hotel was to
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dear leader, Kim Il-sung,
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would hand us bouquets of
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forced to walk up the steps
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foot of the statue
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355. And then, the North Korean
news media would film us.
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356. They wanted it to look like
we were so excited to be in
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way there so we could
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honoured to be here today.
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always trying to leverage
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purposes and
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North Korean strong point.
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363. When we got to the hotel,
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luggage up 7 floors.
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We don't do stairs very well.
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follow you around.
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367. When I got to my room,
he stopped about
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stepped inside my room.
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370. I take my bags and I
looked around the room...
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371. the guy is following us,
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outside your room.
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373. We had like four guys
spying on us,
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375. It's like, man,
we can't do nothing.
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376. So, as far as really
trying to pass the time,
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try to watch TV,
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three government channels,
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379. all political.
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380. So, it was like,
why even bother?
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381. So, it was really kind of,
drive you kind of nuts.
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382. Hawk was right in the
room next to me, right?
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383. So, I step out the door, and as
soon as I started walking,
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following me.
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385. Then I realized...
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about 10 feet down here,
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387. that's at Hawk's room.
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388. I'm talking to Hawk,
I'm going, you know,
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389. "One of these little bastard's
gonna... with me, Mike,
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390. and I'm gonna
take him out."
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391. I mean, there was no reason
to stay in this hotel room.
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392. Me, Benoit, Hawk, and
a couple guys go down
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had a pool table.
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as hell they had a pool table.
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395. I said, "Well, let's
play some pool.'
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that gal at the desk
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through the military guys.
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400. It was crazy.
So, one time I shot...
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it went off the table...
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for that ball leaving the table,
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"How dare you?
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something like that."
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balls away from us.
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he starts smashing 'em,
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Copy !req
411. So, we're just standing
there like, what the...?
Copy !req
412. We were getting pissed off,
the way we were being treated.
Copy !req
413. Hawk didn't like it,
Scottie Steiner didn't like it.
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to a point where...
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little bastards and,
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Copy !req
417. Masa just got me
off to the side, said,
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got to settle down.
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through these next four days."
Copy !req
420. And I says, "Alright, man."
I mean, in my mind, I'm going,
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doing in this country?
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their situation comes
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find themselves
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rise and tempers flaring,
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surroundings or face
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that await.
Copy !req
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the surreal circumstances
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the wrestling outsiders
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Copy !req
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got to North Korea,
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Copy !req
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and planned on
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I should probably
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Copy !req
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gonna get up and
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supposed to be anywhere else
Copy !req
441. and boom, it'll be fine.
I took off by myself.
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442. It's dark out, the streets
were completely deserted.
Copy !req
443. I'm running, I'm running,
I'm running. Sun's coming up.
Copy !req
444. Now, all of a sudden,
I see people
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out into the street,
Copy !req
446. and as I'm running through
the streets of Pyongyang,
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a monster movie.
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are coming out.
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by my presence.
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see terror in anybody's eyes,
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that's supposed to be
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never seen an American so,
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coming, running at them.
Copy !req
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these people thought?
Copy !req
462. When I saw the look of
terror in people's eyes as
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it really made a big
Copy !req
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realize just how easy it is
Copy !req
465. to foment hate and fear,
and how dangerous that is.
Copy !req
466. I got back to the hotel and,
my attaché was there.
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468. And I thought, God, if I
don't see her tomorrow,
Copy !req
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shoot her for letting me
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streets in downtown Pyongyang.
Copy !req
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concerned for her.
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474. No, that...
Copy !req
475. Not until this moment.
Copy !req
476. Wow. Well,
it all started out with,
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going to North Korea,
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because of an incident that
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one of Ric Flair's trips that
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into some trouble.
Copy !req
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was messing with me,
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Copy !req
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I don't give a damn
Copy !req
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feel that, truly,
Copy !req
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Copy !req
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Copy !req
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grudge against somebody
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of me getting fired.
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we're all in North Korea,
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Hawk was riding with Flair.
Copy !req
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day he wants to
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493. ride the bus this day.
So, he comes out on the bus.
Copy !req
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out of the hotel,
Copy !req
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Copy !req
496. So, Ric Flair, he's kind
of looking around like this and,
Copy !req
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like he's looking for somebody.
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Copy !req
499. Maybe he wants me to
ride with him again."
Copy !req
500. "that pussy.
Let him ride by himself."
Copy !req
501. Hawk said,
"What did you say?"
Copy !req
502. I says, "You didn't hear me?"
I says, "... that pussy.
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503. Let him ride by himself."
Copy !req
504. I said, "What part of
it you didn't hear,
Copy !req
505. was it the '... him,
let him ride by himself?'
Copy !req
506. or was it the 'pussy' part?"
Copy !req
507. And he got mad about it and
he came back there and
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N word, he said,
Copy !req
509. "You ...," and
he swung, he missed.
Copy !req
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about five, six times,
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his ... ing ass out.
Copy !req
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back in his typical way,
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Copy !req
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a couple times.
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and all this.
Copy !req
518. Japanese boys grab me,
I fall down in the seat.
Copy !req
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they're holding me down.
Copy !req
520. He comes over, gets on me,
he's trying to punch me.
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521. I'm ducking and dodging,
he can't hit me.
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finger in his eye and
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out with his eye.
Copy !req
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of its socket and stuff and,
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Copy !req
527. And then we kind of got up,
I ripped open my shirt and
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right in the face.
Copy !req
530. Backed him up, you know,
and that's when it
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531. slowed him down and the
boys had enough distance
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532. to get between us
and calm us down.
Copy !req
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best shot and, tell ya,
Copy !req
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bro, you in trouble.
Copy !req
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battling his Hepatitis C and
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538. it makes you very sick,
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539. very flu like symptoms
and just very ill.
Copy !req
540. And, you know, Scorp can
think what he wants...
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541. but, the regular Mike...
Copy !req
542. would 'a killed his ass.
Copy !req
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and call my wife.
Copy !req
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contact her for three days.
Copy !req
546. I get through to my wife.
I says, "Hey, babe."
Copy !req
547. She goes,
"Where the hell you been?"
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548. I said, "Tammy, you don't
understand what kind of,
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and I'm trying to
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nothing to do with it.
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552. She thinks that I'm out
partying with the guys.
Copy !req
553. And I says, "Tammy,
you don't understand
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554. what kind of shithole
I'm in here."
Copy !req
555. And all of a sudden,
the phone went click.
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556. I thought she hung up on me.
Copy !req
557. I took the phone,
I'm throwing it down,
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558. I'm just going,
"What the 'F'?"
Copy !req
559. Then all of a sudden,
somebody pounds on my door.
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560. And here's some guy,
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561. this guy could speak
perfect English.
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562. And he's telling me,
"You're coming with us."
Copy !req
563. With a dangerous
new line crossed,
Copy !req
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in the balance
Copy !req
565. between life and death.
Copy !req
566. After wrestler Scott Norton's
phone call with his wife
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567. is intercepted, North Korean
officials materialize
Copy !req
568. and he is forcibly
taken from his hotel room.
Copy !req
569. And I'm looking at
these guys, man, and I mean...
Copy !req
570. They'd as soon shoot me
right there and then.
Copy !req
571. I'm just going, "What the
hell is going on here?"
Copy !req
572. Now, nobody knows where I'm at.
Copy !req
573. I'm in this room...
Copy !req
574. I mean, it just felt
like at any point in time,
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577. I swear to God,
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578. and I'm just sitting there,
I'm going, oh, my lord,
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579. they could care less
if I lived or died.
Copy !req
580. Then, this guy comes in.
You could just tell,
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581. the way he came in the room,
that he was the top dude.
Copy !req
582. And then he spoke English
to me and he told me,
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583. he says, "You can't say nothing
wrong about North Korea."
Copy !req
584. And I says, "I mean, you know
what I said to my wife?"
Copy !req
585. I says, "We were
just back and forth.
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586. I've been trying
to call home."
Copy !req
587. He says, "No more phone calls,
you don't talk to nobody.
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588. We hear you say something
bad about North Korea.
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589. That's it."
Copy !req
590. I mean, he's pointing his
finger at me, he's saying,
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591. "You can't say anything
bad about North Korea.
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592. This is a superior country."
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593. He's telling me
all this bullshit,
Copy !req
594. and I'm getting it now.
I mean, I'm just like,
Copy !req
595. "I ain't gonna say a word
about North Korea."
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596. And I was just soaked, freaking.
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597. I'll do anything to
get out of this room.
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598. I apologized.
I mean, this is serious.
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599. And the looks on
these people's face,
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600. there's no doubt in my mind
they'd just put
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601. a bullet in my head.
Copy !req
602. You know, after he'd
been interrogated,
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Mr. Inoki's people,
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604. or New Japan people,
got him out of there and,
Copy !req
605. and I'm sure they were told
to make sure to tell him
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606. to watch what he says.
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607. Finally, "You go now."
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and I'm just going,
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609. "Oh, my god.
What just happened here?"
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610. Can't mess with
these people, Scott.
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611. But, you think they might
have had a little talk with us
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612. and give us a little
heads up on this stuff.
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613. They just told you as you went,
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Copy !req
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is to finally kick off,
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ushered to one last
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a visit to a sacred tomb
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Korea's first kingdom.
Copy !req
619. We finally get to this
5-year-old hundred
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gotta go look at.
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621. I ain't got no
damn clue who it is.
Copy !req
622. So, anyways, we're walking
and we're walking,
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623. and the next thing you know,
we notice Muhammad Ali
Copy !req
624. is taking his jacket off.
Copy !req
625. And he rolled his sleeves up,
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626. and he started
jogging up the stairs.
Copy !req
627. And, you know,
we're following Ali,
Copy !req
628. and all of a sudden,
Ali got to the top.
Copy !req
629. And he's shadow boxing.
It was unbelievable.
Copy !req
630. And here's Muhammad Ali
just snapping them off,
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631. boom, boom, bang!
Copy !req
632. And he's dancing around
and he's doing like
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633. all these,
shuffling a little bit.
Copy !req
634. And he was moving
like it was the old times, man.
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635. He's just having
the time of his life.
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636. I mean, we're the only
people in the world saw this.
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637. And we're just like blown away.
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638. You know, that's Ali, brother.
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639. I mean, it was unbelievable.
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640. That, within itself,
made my whole trip.
Copy !req
641. So, as we make our way
out of the temple and...
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642. we're making our
way down the stairs,
Copy !req
643. I finally go up to Hawk.
Copy !req
644. I says, "Look, bro," I said,
"we're supposed to be
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645. over here on a peace treaty,"
and I said,
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646. "and we're over here acting
like mother... ing fools.
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647. We're fighting amongst
each other, Americans."
Copy !req
648. He walks three
steps in front of me,
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649. turns and swings as hard
as he can,
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650. hits me...
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651. I don't go down.
I look at him like he's crazy.
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652. I jump after him,
I go after him.
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653. The Japanese boys grab me,
snatch me out of the air,
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654. and I started going off.
Copy !req
655. Cameras are on us,
cameras is filming.
Copy !req
656. I'm saying,
"You ... ing pussy!"
Copy !req
657. I said, "That's all you got?
That's all you got?"
Copy !req
658. I was like, "You hit me
with your best shot,
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659. that's all you got?"
I said, "I'm gonna kill you!"
Copy !req
660. And so, now,
I'm thinking street smarts.
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661. I'm 'a get him, I'm 'a hurt him.
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662. So, we had to go to
that special state dinner,
Copy !req
663. that's where they had the
stainless steel chopsticks.
Copy !req
664. So, I was taking one of
the pair of stainless steel
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665. chopsticks, eat with it,
drop one,
Copy !req
666. pick it up,
slid it into my pocket.
Copy !req
667. Grabbed another one,
did the same thing,
Copy !req
668. dropped it,
slid it into my pocket.
Copy !req
669. Me and Chris had to
share a room, Chris Benoit.
Copy !req
670. And we're back at the room
and Chris is sitting there
Copy !req
671. looking at me and
he's watching me and...
Copy !req
672. all of a sudden, I open up
the window sill and I pull
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673. out the chopsticks,
and the window sill
Copy !req
674. is all rough concrete.
Copy !req
675. I'm sharpening the stainless
steel chopsticks on the window,
Copy !req
676. bringing 'em to more of a point.
Copy !req
677. Chris is like,
"What are you doing?"
Copy !req
678. I said, "Man,
I'm making a shiv."
Copy !req
679. He goes, "What?"
I was, like,
Copy !req
680. "Yeah, I'm gonna
stab that mother... er."
Copy !req
681. I was taping the ends together,
like, I know how to make a shiv,
Copy !req
682. you know what I'm saying.
My dad ain't been to prison
Copy !req
683. and don't know how to do
this shit with no reason.
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684. I know how to do this shit.
Copy !req
685. I'm like, okay,
I'm gonna get him.
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686. I'm gonna take him out.
Chris just said,
Copy !req
687. "Man, don't do it, man."
Copy !req
688. He's like, "Man, you
don't want to do that, man.
Copy !req
689. If you kill Hawk over here,
you will just be here
Copy !req
690. for the rest of your life."
What am I gonna do?
Copy !req
691. I can't let this
punk get away with it.
Copy !req
692. You know, we're gonna
have to settle this.
Copy !req
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grueling conditions and
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694. life threatening situations,
the wrestlers head to the
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where festivities
Copy !req
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Copy !req
697. And I'm riding with Ric,
and we're driving
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698. down the road and two lanes...
Copy !req
699. Where nothing but
people walking to the show.
Copy !req
700. And I says, "Ric, man, we're
really drawing a crowd here.
Copy !req
701. I mean, these people
really want to see this."
Copy !req
702. And all of a sudden,
the driver goes, "No,"
Copy !req
703. he says,
"they don't want to come."
Copy !req
704. He says, "If they don't show up,
they get a bullet in the head.
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705. Forced attendance."
Copy !req
706. And I'm just going,
"You got to be kidding me."
Copy !req
707. We got there our first night,
Copy !req
708. 170,000 people there.
Copy !req
709. And I thought, oh, my God.
Copy !req
710. Antonio Inoki is a genius.
Copy !req
711. This is... amazing!
Copy !req
712. We're leaving
WrestleMania in the dirt!
Copy !req
713. The way that you had over a
hundred and something
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714. thousand people working and
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715. moving together and flashing
all at the same time,
Copy !req
716. it was mind blowing.
Copy !req
717. You didn't even have to
be high to trip off that.
Copy !req
718. I mean, it was
straight up mind blowing.
Copy !req
719. Their show made the half
time of the Super Bowl
Copy !req
720. look like a high school.
Copy !req
721. I'm not kidding ya,
it was just unbelievable.
Copy !req
722. Before the matches started,
we were all jacked, man.
Copy !req
723. We thought, this is
gonna be awesome.
Copy !req
724. And then the matches start,
and I realize that none of
Copy !req
725. these people have a clue
what they're watching,
Copy !req
726. why they're watching it...
Copy !req
727. It makes no sense to them.
Copy !req
728. First match, went out there,
it was quieter than it is
Copy !req
729. in this room right now
doing this interview.
Copy !req
730. And that's hard to do.
Copy !req
731. Hawk, during his match,
stood on the second rope
Copy !req
732. and yelled, and he says,
"What in the 'F'
Copy !req
733. are you even doing here,
you rotten..."
Copy !req
734. And he cussed the crowd out.
Copy !req
735. This is a society where
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736. this kind of extravagant display
Copy !req
737. of people throwing
themselves around,
Copy !req
738. especially, for example,
the female wrestlers...
Copy !req
739. must have been utterly
alien to the North Koreans.
Copy !req
740. I wrestled Hashimoto the
first night in a main event.
Copy !req
741. The North Koreans just
stood there and watched us.
Copy !req
742. We never got a
reaction to anything.
Copy !req
743. Just, this stuff doesn't
happen in this business.
Copy !req
744. And you're just busting your
tail trying to get these people
Copy !req
745. to respond to you and nothing.
Copy !req
746. Absolutely nothing.
Copy !req
747. The challenge to engage the
crowd would now fall
Copy !req
748. on the shoulders of
promoter Antonio Inoki,
Copy !req
749. whose connection to the
people of North Korea
Copy !req
750. was even deeper than it seemed.
Copy !req
751. For Inoki, this event would
also pay tribute to his
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752. fallen mentor Rikidozan,
a wrestling icon in Japan
Copy !req
753. who struggled to keep his
North Korean nationality
Copy !req
754. a secret until it was too late.
Copy !req
755. As the story goes,
Copy !req
756. he was murdered by
Japanese gangsters in a bar.
Copy !req
757. The Japanese Yakuza,
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758. which is their
version of the mafia,
Copy !req
759. killed him because
he was North Korean.
Copy !req
760. And, he wasn't Japanese,
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761. and he was becoming
very, very popular.
Copy !req
762. In the North Korean mythology,
Copy !req
763. his death becomes this
glorious, tragic thing
Copy !req
764. wherein his final breaths
he expresses
Copy !req
765. his loyalty to North Korea.
Copy !req
766. And the fact that Inoki had
this association with him
Copy !req
767. gave Inoki credibility in
North Korea eyes.
Copy !req
768. The North Koreans
understood the connection
Copy !req
769. between Inoki and Rikidozan.
Copy !req
770. He got kind of the
hometown treatment.
Copy !req
771. Ric Flair, they didn't know
what to make of Ric Flair.
Copy !req
772. Bleach blond hair, sequins robe.
Copy !req
773. They didn't understand it.
Copy !req
774. Again, this match starts,
and it's quiet.
Copy !req
775. And I'm going, God, man.
Copy !req
776. Amazing to me that this
is the first ever matchup
Copy !req
777. between these two
wrestling legends.
Copy !req
778. They went to a different place.
Copy !req
779. They kind of went old school.
Copy !req
780. One to the chest,
one to the forehead.
Copy !req
781. And they kept working,
all of a sudden, you could...
Copy !req
782. You could hear the people
start coming with Inoki.
Copy !req
783. We hear the crowd for
one of the few times
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784. at Collision in Korea.
Really responding to Inoki.
Copy !req
785. And about halfway
through that match,
Copy !req
786. that place is going
absolutely crazy.
Copy !req
787. Inoki now coming off the
ropes sets up...
Copy !req
788. Firmly plants his feet
and takes the
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789. Nature Boy
Ric Flair off his feet.
Copy !req
790. This is a testament to Ric
because Ric's job
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791. was to get Inoki over.
Copy !req
792. Ric's job was to showcase Inoki.
Copy !req
793. There's nobody better at that.
Copy !req
794. Flair in a lot of trouble.
Inoki tosses Flair!
Copy !req
795. And I remember the
finish of the match...
Copy !req
796. Chest kick.
Copy !req
797. And, Inoki went over...
Copy !req
798. and the place just came unglued.
Copy !req
799. These people were
entertained for probably
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800. the first time in their lives.
Copy !req
801. I mean, 'cause there was
no happiness in this place, man.
Copy !req
802. This was like going
to hell and living.
Copy !req
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fun that night, you know,
Copy !req
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that forced attendance,
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were forced there,
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806. you know, for that one anyways.
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807. That was the greatest match
that's ever happened
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808. in this business. Ever.
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809. With the largest wrestling
event in history
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810. coming to a close,
and freedom within reach,
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811. the Americans must stay in line
for just a few more hours,
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812. or else this bizarre trip will
become a permanent stay.
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813. As the epic event
draws to a close,
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814. and with just hours remaining
before the group departs,
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815. a final ceremonial
dinner is Scorpio's
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816. last chance to settle
the score with Hawk.
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817. I hear doors closing,
"ch-ch-ch,"
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818. everybody's going
down to dinner.
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819. I open my door, I go out,
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820. I walk around the corner,
it's me and Hawk.
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821. We're face-to-face now.
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822. We're looking at each other,
I'm looking at him,
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823. I'm like, "What do you
want to do?
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824. You want to finish
this right now?"
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825. He pushes the button
for the elevator,
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826. so I turn and I back
into the elevator,
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827. keep my eye on him at all times.
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828. I got my shank with me.
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829. He gets into the elevator.
He's not saying nothing,
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830. we're just looking
at each other.
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831. I'm like,
"What do you want to do?
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832. You want to finish
this right now?"
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833. And all of a sudden,
he says, "I ran out of pills.
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834. I ain't got no steroids,
got no smoke,
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835. I got no nothing.
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836. My nerves got to me,
I was upset."
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837. I said, "I accept
your apology," I said,
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838. "But I'll tell you what,
we get back to Tokyo,
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839. if you still want
to finish this,
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840. we're gonna finish this."
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841. I said, "Alright, man,
whatever you want to do."
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842. We ended up squashing it
in North Korea,
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843. got to Japan.
I was ready.
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844. And that never happened, man.
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845. But he got an ass whooping
and learned that Scorpio
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846. ain't the one to mess with,
I'll tell you that shit.
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847. We were in North Korea
for four days.
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848. It was a relatively
short period of time
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849. that felt like a lifetime.
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850. So, by the time it
was the day to leave...
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851. Everybody was on edge.
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852. We were physically tired,
we were mentally tired.
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853. And there was a little
bit of a tension in the air
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854. because we still didn't
have our passports yet.
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855. But, once we physically had
our passports in our hand
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856. and we were on the plane
and we were headed
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857. back to Japan,
everything changed.
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858. It wasn't until
the plane landed.
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859. Ric Flair literally walked
down the stairs of the plane,
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860. walked down to the tarmac,
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861. got down on the ground
and kissed the pavement.
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862. That's how
excited Ric Flair was.
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863. $3000 suit on, alligator shoes.
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864. Got down on his hands and knees,
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865. and kissed the ground,
says, "I love Japan."
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866. And I mean, he was woo'ing and...
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867. Now he's Ric Flair again.
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868. He was happier than a lark, man.
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869. And we all felt the same way.
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870. The event failed to energize
Inoki's political ambitions
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871. as he lost his reelection
bid and left politics behind
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872. for almost two decades.
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873. While this fusion of
staged combat and
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874. international politics seems
like an unlikely pairing,
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875. it revealed a fascinating
parallel between wrestling
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876. and North Korea, as they are
both masters of
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877. blurring the lines between
fantasy and reality.
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878. The show, itself,
was super cool.
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879. Meeting Muhammad Ali
on top of it,
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880. wrestling in front of that dude.
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881. I mean, I remember
after my first match,
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882. he told me, he says,
"Oh, you, you're really good.
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883. You're very good."
I says, "Thank..."
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884. I mean, this is
Muhammad Ali, brother.
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885. So, being a part of that was,
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886. was absolutely... awesome.
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887. And it's 2 Cold Scorpio
up and over!
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888. Two nights in a row,
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889. 189,000 people.
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890. I've, I've never seen that many
people together, ever.
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891. That's the only thing that I
can ever brag about to Hogan
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892. that I've done something
that he has not done,
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893. is I wrestled for 199,000 people
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894. two nights in a row, not one.
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895. And that's all I got on him.
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896. I've been a part of
WrestleMania and
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897. I've been to Super Bowls.
I've, you know,
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898. I've been to a lot of
different big events.
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899. They pale in comparison
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900. to what I saw in Pyongyang.
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901. I knew...
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902. that Vince McMahon
was probably...
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903. livid that there was a
wrestling event that
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904. drew a bigger house
than WrestleMania.
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905. But, my joy is mitigated by
the fact that none of them
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906. were paying customers and
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907. they were kind of
forced to be there.
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908. But technically,
if you go to Wikipedia, folks,
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909. largest wrestling
event in the world...
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910. you know, I did that.
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