1. In 30 years, I have never seen
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one, two, three!
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the Universal Wrestling Federation
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on the wrestling world.
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of an outsider,
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into something new and cutting edge
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15. UWF! Number one, baby!
Number one!
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16. While his lofty vision put the UWF
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the monumental downfall
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dominated professional wrestling.
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to its mainstream popularity.
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the WWF monster.
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39. I mean, I see him so clearly
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without smiling.
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41. I am Mick Foley. I am sometimes
known as The Hardcore Legend.
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42. Look out! All the way to hell! Good
God almighty! They've killed him!
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43. Herb was a little guy
with a big personality.
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45. I believe I was at one of John
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who put together wrestling weekends.
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of the pro wrestling business,
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to start a wrestling promotion
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at the Wrestling Fan Convention.
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in the organization.
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like Bruno Sammartino,
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Bruno Sammartino was the face
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and one of its first true icons.
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he was getting involved with Herb,
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the time of day
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to my wrestling fan convention.
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Fantasy Weekend event
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of its kind and a convenient arena
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looking for new opportunities.
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from the northeast,
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himself to almost everybody there.
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at the convention. He was recruiting.
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Sunny Beach in the wrestling world.
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to do big things and he goes,
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that I didn't even see.
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experienced anything in the wrestling
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82. My name's B. Brian Blair.
I've been wrestling for a long time.
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from the very beginning.
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to come work for him.
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a great way back to kind of the WWE
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of wrestling 67 days in a row
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of an obsessive fan,
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at the convention,
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for global domination.
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to introduce his vision
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some of the performers
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but it turned into a circus.
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95. There was an angle between
Dan Spivey and B. Brian Blair.
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96. - Tables were torn, glasses thrown.
- And look at this!
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Black Jack Mulligan
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Brody as one of his top stars,
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a year ago.
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102. because the entire wrestling business
is far-fetched.
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people around him want to believe
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"This is going to be
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wrestling promotions,"
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who's going to mix Hollywood
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not even Mr. McMahon had done.
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of eager wrestlers,
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of a man who is a complete mystery.
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112. I didn't know a whole lot
about who Herb Abrams was.
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of some kind.
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with the stock market.
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I really don't know.
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117. Herb owned clothing companies
in New York City
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that you wouldn't have thought
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for these oversized women.
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and Quality Control.
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124. I always wanted to get involved
with professional wrestling.
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you have that deep desire
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127. Herb Abrams was my best friend.
We were kindred spirits.
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128. Herb was in a pair of jeans,
cowboy boots.
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129. He was going
from the minute I met him.
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130. He let me in so quickly
because he didn't have a me.
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131. He didn't have someone
that could do what I did.
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132. He believed so much in what he was
doing and in what he was selling.
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133. Herb Abrams' greatest dream
comes to life on October 1st 1990,
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134. when the UWF Fury Hour
debuts on cable television.
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135. There's excitement in the air
throughout this crowd.
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137. We were in Reseda, California.
It was a nice setup.
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138. - It was a small venue, sold out.
- We believed in Herb's vision.
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139. I didn't know where it might take us,
but I resolved to enjoy it.
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This is Cactus Jack
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than love a woman.
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142. He had guys
that had recently parted with WWF
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and hot on the television.
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144. Herb Abrams had what I thought was
more star power than WWE.
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who'd drawn a lot of money.
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Williams. Captain Lou Albano.
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to the UWF,
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150. It's coming, wrestling fans,
the Orndorff Pile Driver! Boom!
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154. It was a lot looser in Herb Abrams'
territory than in Vince's.
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I had handcuffs on
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158. I thought it was something special
and I'd got in on the ground floor.
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for stardom, you know.
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was gonna give me that big push.
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161. Everybody was happy
and things were good.
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with the one man
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in the wrestling world.
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and said to him,
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and the Central and it's all yours.
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the West Coast for you?"
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he looks to expand the UWF roster.
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You shut up! I'm talking!
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who has to bring them to glory!
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South Carolina.
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I was branded The Colonel
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"The Boogie Woogie Man" Valiant.
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about this mark out in California,
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a TV show called The UWF.
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and we wasn't working for him.
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to meet him. You know, I'm like, wow.
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Hollywood honeys.
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that I thought was my suite.
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'cause I'm thinking,
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like this much less, you know,
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you know,
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down the door here in a minute
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and cocaine everywhere.
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a live pornography session
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Television Championship belt
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It says UWF on both sides
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it was, fuck you to Vince McMahon,
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Herb would hold it up,
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I said I had a surprise.
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here he is, Andre the Giant!
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Andre the Giant has signed
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the Universal Wrestling Federation.
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as everybody knows.
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- He will be wrestling?
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to have him walk down to the ring.
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200, 300 people in the audience,
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and they knew that we had it.
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and brought him back.
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Andre the Giant!
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very, very interesting.
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of losing Andre the Giant
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to Herb's plan for dominance.
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Herb responds
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book to gain the attention of fans.
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247. Herb would think of things on
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this is a disgrace!
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250. As long as it entertained Herb,
he thought it entertained the world.
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No holds barred.
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to really take it to the next level.
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and he missed.
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who they worked best with,
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new strategy to invigorate the UWF.
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- Who is this Smurf asking questions?
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the star of the show.
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of The Fury Hour.
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so Herb could do anything.
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and we were living in it.
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You think about it!
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and now you've got it!
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to get the exposure that I was after.
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Herb took him down!
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279. As long as he was part of it,
he would keep me around.
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with that cane and another one!
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something like this to me!
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lucrative ventures, merchandizing.
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the UWF merchandise!
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the UWF Superstars cookies.
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Steve Ray "Wild Thing" cookie.
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And coming soon, the Herbie cookie.
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that for you, Herbie cookies.
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but the cookies, they were great.
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Blair cookie. It's honey-flavored.
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starts slipping away.
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The UWF Beach Brawl.
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a pay-per-view,
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a breakthrough moment.
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It was proven by WCW.
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and then finance the whole operation.
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that people call
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right in their living room
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a brawl at the beach.
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watch the show.
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we can sell this building out.
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I had ever seen in my entire life.
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That was Herb Abrams.
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back in the late '80s, early '90s
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partying.
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for some of the guys.
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hotel room and he had been partying.
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really bad shape and I said to him,
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it's the stress I'm under."
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I can't do this with you."
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of empty seats at the arena.
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there was nobody there.
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That was a paid-per-view.
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I said to Herb, "How can this be?"
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he was doing a lot of cocaine.
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I think, in history.
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you know, buy rate.
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It's either 100 or 1,000 people.
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financial loss. Nobody was happy.
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between themselves.
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the end of the promotion.
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I saw those empty seats
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to do cool stuff.
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that most of his best intentions
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and checks for the talent
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so I can get my money.
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and there's these two naked girls.
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371. So, not like I hadn't seen
a naked girl before,
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373. and then I see Herb on the bed.
He's naked and he's laughing.
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374. I look over and he's got two big
piles of cocaine on each night stand.
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376. So he tells those girls to leave
and as they're getting dressed,
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377. Herb writes 'em a check
for $2,000 each.
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378. I thought, golly, $2,000.
You know, this guy's crazy.
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379. Blowing money on cocaine
and hookers.
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380. I mean, how long is this promotion
gonna last?
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381. I had a guy tell me one day,
"You know this is a runaway train?"
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382. I said,
"No, bro, this is a train wreck
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383. and all they're trying to do now is
figure out if there's any survivors."
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384. Herb Abrams' connections in
the wrestling world start to dry up.
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are refusing to work
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386. while Herb's vices are taking hold.
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387. I kept in contact with Herb
even when I did not work for Herb.
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the wear and tear on his face.
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and the failing promotion,
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with money.
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392. I don't think it mattered to him,
as long as the party continues.
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he pulled a fast one.
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394. So, the day of the show arrives.
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twelve o'clock. Herb's there.
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396. And they said, "We need to get
a check from you for tonight's show."
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397. Herb says, "Let me get everything
set up and I'll cut you a check."
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399. TV crew came back and said,
"Mr. Abrams,
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400. if you don't give us some money,
we're packing up and leaving."
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401. Herb says,
"Okay. Let's go up to the office."
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402. They call Herb's bank,
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403. "Mr. Abrams has multi-millions
of dollars in this bank account."
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They said,
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407. He had two bank accounts.
He had one that was filthy rich
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408. and then he had
the other bank account
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409. that he cut his check on
that had no money in it.
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410. Herb worked something out
where they accepted a check.
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"Don't accept a check
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And they accepted a check.
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413. All hell broke loose.
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414. Some of the guys
that had worked that show
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off the fifth-floor balcony
Copy !req
416. and that's when reality hit me
upside the head. I was hiding out.
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I mean, they were wanting to kill me
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418. for being associated
with the company.
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is now forced
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421. his party lifestyle
grows more intense
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422. and his grasp on reality
begins to slip.
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423. He would get in this paranoia state
where he would swear
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424. that there was someone with a bug
in his hotel room.
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425. I seen him paranoid several times
and I'd ask, "What's wrong?"
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426. He'd like to look around
and say, "I think they're outside."
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427. I said, "Who?"
He goes, "They're watching us."
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428. He would never tell me who it was.
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429. I don't know who
he felt recorded him,
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430. whether it be the police, or hookers,
whether it be the pimps.
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431. I'm thinking, no one's spying on you,
Herb. It's the drugs talking.
Copy !req
432. He would go through the furniture
and look for microphones or cameras.
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433. He'd tear the furniture to bits.
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434. For some reason,
he had a fascination with cushions.
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435. If there was a zipper,
he'd open them up
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436. and he'd just start ripping
through them.
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437. He ripped them out and when it was
ripped out, he'd go to the next one.
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438. All the feathers were all over
the room. He wanted everything.
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440. it concerned me because there was
some truth behind some of that.
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441. He would go over to the door
and the peephole.
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442. He would look through
the peephole like this right here.
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443. Now, you got to understand,
here's this five-foot tall,
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with cowboy boots.
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445. One thing he didn't take off
was his cowboy boots.
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446. And he's going, "Shh. Shh."
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447. I said, "What's wrong, Herb?"
"They're coming. They're coming.
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They're coming. Shh."
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449. What are you thinking
around this time?
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450. Yeah, they're probably coming.
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451. Herb's problems escalate further
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452. when he tries to put one over
on the wrong people.
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who he's supposed to pay up.
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454. He's doing this
I'll-give-you-a-check thing.
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455. No, you're supposed to give me cash.
She's not falling for it. Boom!
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456. Door breaks down.
Thugs there. Herb's eyes pop out.
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457. He goes and throws himself
through a window.
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458. I get a phone call from him
in California,
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459. running through
a neighborhood naked
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460. and he's like, "What do I do?
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461. And I said,
"Make yourself visible. I don't care.
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462. Make people see you.
Get arrested. Go to jail."
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have been a smart thing.
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464. She probably had contacts in
there as well, but anyway...
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has finally reached its limit
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in wrestling cease.
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467. Any comeback for the UWF
seems near impossible.
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468. Meanwhile,
his old rival Vince McMahon
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one of his flamboyant events yet.
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470. The spectacle of WrestleMania IX
shows Las Vegas casinos
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472. For Herb, it opens the door
to a golden opportunity
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473. in the city of second chances,
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474. his first event in over a year,
the Black Jack Brawl.
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475. What better way to showcase
your product
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476. than in one of the preeminent
locations in Las Vegas,
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477. or in the world for that matter?
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478. For Herb to pull off the MGM grand,
it's a wager city, a betting city.
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479. So, obviously,
he got somebody to take the bet.
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480. That was his deal.
That's what he did.
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481. He would go for the biggest freaking
bite he could get and he'd take it.
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482. He was spending
an enormous amount of money
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483. on the talent
he was bringing in for it.
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484. It was a loaded show with big names
and it just seemed like a party.
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485. The night before the show, Herb
brings me up to his penthouse suite.
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486. When I saw the suite, I believed
that MGM was gonna be packed.
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487. I was thinking
17,000 people packed to the rafters.
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488. I mean,
this overlooked the whole city.
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489. And Herb goes,
"Wait until you see this.
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490. People are going to lose
their minds."
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491. He proceeds to pull out a pair
of yellow ostrich-skin cowboy boots
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burnished into the leather.
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493. The fact that he thought
people would lose their minds
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494. over a pair of cowboy boots was
an indicator that there were issues.
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495. Making their way into
the luxurious MGM Grand,
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497. that Herb's reach
is leagues beyond his grasp.
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498. It was a gorgeous arena. That night,
it was a gorgeous, empty arena.
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499. It was sad to wrestle in front
of a couple hundred people again.
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500. My first match was in Clarksburg,
West Virginia and we had 300 people,
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501. but we were at
the Clarksburg Armory.
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502. He didn't seem bothered
by what was going on,
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503. almost like it was part
of the grand plan.
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504. Like those 300 people are gonna be
checking out my ostrich skin boots.
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505. He was a bundle of energy
running about.
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506. He was involved in everything.
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507. It really was an embarrassment
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508. and, you know, he was really
outrageous during that show.
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509. He might have been coked up
throughout that entire show.
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510. He takes the microphone
and he screams into it,
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511. "Let's hear it for the Jews!"
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512. I mean, in front of the crowd.
It was kind of hilarious. It was sad.
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513. All in the same way.
It was kind of weird.
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514. He was acting very strangely.
His mannerisms were different.
Copy !req
515. The showdown will take place!
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516. Steve "Dr. Death" Williams
puts the title on the line
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517. against "Malicious" Sid Vicious!
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518. I'm happy to have you as champion,
but I'm glad you got busted up.
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519. Herb's not making
many friends tonight.
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520. He was twitching and jumping and
such, so they all knew he was high.
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521. On that night, I had a chance
to wrestle my idol, Jimmy Snuka.
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522. And when Jimmy Snuka and I
start heading into the stands,
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523. you know, 16,700 empty seats,
I remember Brian Blair going,
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524. "What are you doing?"
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525. I said, "It's Herb's show.
We can do whatever we want."
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526. They're way up there!
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527. Ladies and gentlemen,
we have a double disqualification!
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528. The downside is
that check did not clear.
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529. He wrote me a check. It bounced.
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530. It was a failure
and, you know, that's got to hurt.
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531. He had the weight of the world
on his shoulder.
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532. I would never have wanted to be
Herb Abrams in his position.
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533. When he came back,
he told me how successful it was.
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534. "I had the MGM, Len."
"Yeah, you drew 200 people
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535. and it was a total clusterfuck."
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536. And he says,
"Yeah, but I had the MGM."
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537. Emotionally and physically defeated
by his failure in Las Vegas,
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538. Herb's dreams of a wrestling triumph
may finally be over.
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539. The lifestyle took a toll on Herb.
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540. He didn't have the spunk
that he had, that electricity,
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541. constant, constant spark
that made the room glow.
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542. You know, it was like
he aged ten years in two years.
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543. It was such a big deal
that he left LA for good.
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544. He came back to New York.
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545. I thought
he was really cleaning himself up.
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546. So, I get a phone call from Herb
and he goes,
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547. "Len, big things are happening."
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548. I go,
"Are you sure you're straight?"
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549. He goes,
"Len, I'm perfectly straight."
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550. On July 17th 1996,
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551. a longtime friend visits Herb
at his office in New York City.
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552. This is the last-known recording
of Herb Abrams.
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553. Hey! Kirby!
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554. - You want to look around here first?
- Yeah.
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555. You know, I can't keep
the house together myself
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556. 'cause it's just too much work.
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557. - Are you happy?
- Very happy. I've never been happier.
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558. - Okay.
- Never been happier.
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559. Can we film this,
or is this supposed to be...?
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560. Well, you need to get a release
from me.
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561. Herb appears to have turned
a corner on his sobriety,
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562. but his friends are left in the dark
as he suddenly disappears.
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563. '96, when I was working in
the offices with him,
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564. sometimes,
he'd come in all hung over.
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565. Sometimes he wouldn't come in.
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566. Sometimes you wouldn't see him
for a couple days.
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567. So, that was just Herb being Herb.
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568. I was working at NBC.
I got a call from Stacy, my wife.
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569. She said,
"Lenny, I have some really bad news.
Copy !req
570. Sunny Beach called
and Herb's passed away.
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571. Herb's dead.
Sunny's crying on the phone."
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572. So, I call Sunny Beach and I go,
"What is going on?"
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573. Nobody knew what happened
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574. and then his mother called me up
and it was just a blur after that.
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575. I must have cried for like two hours.
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576. And it was just the hardest thing
to call those men
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577. and then to hear them all
start to cry.
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578. These super gargantuan, strong men
that you saw fly across the ring,
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579. all cry over Herb dying
and me not being able to almost talk.
Copy !req
580. On July 23rd 1996,
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581. officers respond to an unbelievable
scene at the office of Herb Abrams.
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582. Details are sparse and those closest
to Herb would hear varying accounts
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583. of the disturbing events
as they unfolded.
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584. It was like how someone would say
if they walked into his hotel room
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585. and saw him, you know, naked.
That's a real shock to some people.
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586. To me, that was part of his process
of what he was going through.
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587. The night that he passed away,
he was partying.
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588. He had a couple of escorts with him.
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589. When I heard that he had done so
much cocaine that he was whacked
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590. and he'd found a baseball bat
and started tearing up
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591. the room that he was in
and just went absolutely berserk.
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592. I heard that he was covered in
either oil or Vaseline and cocaine.
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593. It was crazy and he was chasing
hookers with this baseball bat.
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594. Somebody told me
escorts tried to rob him.
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595. That's why he grabbed the bat.
That's a sight to see.
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596. I call Sunny Beach and I go,
"What is going on?"
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597. And he says, "Exactly what it says
in the tabloids,
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598. that Herb was running around naked,
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599. smashing a baseball bat on the walls
in the office,
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600. chasing a couple of hookers
with coke all over his body."
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601. He had baby oil all over him.
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602. I heard somebody called
the police on him.
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603. There was rumors he got sodomized
by police with their batons.
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604. I heard that and I'm going,
"What the hell?"
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605. I guess one of the girls ran out
and shut the door.
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606. I think he ran into it
and that's how he passed away.
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607. When the police showed up, I heard
he had a massive coronary and died.
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608. And what I'm told is that
he took his clothes off in the jail
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609. and he had a seizure
and it killed him.
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610. Nobody knew if he was robbed,
or beat up with a baseball bat.
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611. There was all kinds of stories going
around. Nobody knew the true story.
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612. Still, we don't know. I wasn't there.
Never believe everything you hear.
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613. Chasing hookers around
and, you know,
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614. all greased up
and died in the back of a police car.
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615. The one thing I know is that
Herb Abrams left this world
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616. doing what he loved...
cocaine and hookers.
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617. The wild
and conflicting circumstances
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618. surrounding Herb Abrams' death
overshadow his already extreme life
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619. and reach urban legend status
within the wrestling world.
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620. It kind of became folklore.
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621. Everywhere we go,
you get a Herb story
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622. and some are better than others.
Some are true.
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623. Some you don't know what to believe.
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624. When they told me he died,
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625. I said, "No, he's faked his death.
He's left. He's left the country."
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626. And I hate to talk ill of the dead
if he's dead
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627. but I had a promotion that was down
in Union, South Carolina
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628. that ran under UWF
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629. and this promoter swore to me
that the night of his show,
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630. this little fella...
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631. came to the show
in blue jeans and cowboy boots
Copy !req
632. and asked him what the name
of the organization was.
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633. And he swore.
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634. He said, "I'm telling you. That Herb
Abrams showed up at my show."
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635. Because it said UWF,
this person gave them the riot act
Copy !req
636. that he would sue them
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637. and it was as if
Herb was legitimately alive.
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638. And I said to Marty, "Herb's dead."
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639. I question.
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640. Herb Abrams couldn't keep quiet
for 30 years.
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641. Maybe he went under
witness protect... I don't know.
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642. He would find a way to resurface.
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643. No. I find it completely unfeasible
that Herb Abrams is alive
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644. and not seeking
the limelight somewhere.
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645. I know that if he was still alive,
he would have come and found me.
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646. He would have let me know
that he was alive.
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647. He would have done everything he
could to send a message somehow.
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648. He wouldn't have stayed away
30 years.
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649. He wouldn't have stayed away
30 years.
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650. Herb, we miss you.
Wish you were still here with us.
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651. You know,
could have been a great thing.
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652. What's that?
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653. You know, the UWF
and just what he was doing
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654. if he would have had a little more
backing, a little more support,
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655. I think it could have went
a long way.
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656. And now I'm visiting Herb
in a cemetery.
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657. "We deal, we cope and we go on."
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658. I actually inherited Herb's dog
after he passed away.
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659. - What was the dog's name?
- Cokey.
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660. It was snow white the dog
and it was laying in the coke.
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661. Herb called it Cokey.
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662. Herb loved that dog to death.
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663. Herb's style was always
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664. to be a generous guy,
picked up the tab for everything.
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665. But again that's easy to do
with other people's money.
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666. If it was his hard-earned money,
he would still do the same.
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667. He always tried to prove himself,
always wanted to be liked,
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668. or always wanted to be somebody
to be respected.
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669. But we all respected him
and liked him.
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670. How did you feel after he passed?
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671. It was a loss of someone who...
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672. someone who believed in me.
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673. And...
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674. I have to say
that he truly brought life.
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675. He brought it out of me.
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676. Without their falling leader,
the UWF faded out of existence
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677. and into the memories of those
who fought to bring it to the top.
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678. Herb should be remembered
as a person who tried
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679. to do something special
in wrestling.
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680. I think Herb Abrams
is this bizarre character
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681. who wanted to become a major player
in the pro wrestling business
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682. and he was never able to succeed
because he got in his own way,
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683. from his personal demons
to the way he ran his business.
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684. The worst thing that Herb Abrams did,
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685. whether you hear
he was involved with hookers,
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686. or coke,
or this, or not paying people,
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687. the worst thing
that Herb ever did to me was die.
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688. It's haunted me for
the entire time of these 30 years.
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689. The only reason
that I've ever talked about...
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690. It's the first time I've ever let
the secret of the UWF out.
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691. And you have it, the best
that I could give it to you today.
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692. He had the enthusiasm and I think the
courage to try to live out his dream.
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693. He was such a diehard fan.
That was his downfall.
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694. He would love the negative that's on
the internet. He would love it all.
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695. - Why is that?
- Because he was Herb Abrams.
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696. He was a thing unto himself.
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697. I believe
this is the way Herb would want it.
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698. Like maybe he got in death
what he didn't have in life
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699. and that is he became a legend.
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700. Last question. If he was alive today,
what do you think he'd be doing?
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701. Time.
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702. Yeah, there's no way
Herb's gonna keep his taxes.
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703. I just think he'd be behind bars.
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704. He would have hurt no one except
himself and I'd be visiting him
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705. and we'd be toasting with a glass
of milk and Herbie cookies.
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