1. we had scheduled a bout with gi.
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2. However, we have reached a mile,
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3. a sad moment, in world class ch.
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4. Gino hernandez is dead.
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5. On February the 4th, 1986,
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6. the professional wrestling worl.
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7. 28-year-old wrestler gino herna.
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8. The popular wrestling star's bas
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9. discovered late last night at h.
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10. He had apparently been dead for.
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11. So a lot of people, when gino d,
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12. they know exactly what happened.
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13. I'm listening to the person tels
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14. not even close to true... 'caus.
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15. Dallas police say hernandez mig.
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16. The rumor grows, the story grow,
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17. and it gets more grandiose as I.
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18. At the time of gino's death, gi.
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19. He was caught up in a very fast,
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20. and as a result of that, he pai.
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21. And he paid... With his life.
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22. Well, in all respect to gino he,
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23. I think the gino hernandez you s
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24. very much like the gino hernand,
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25. and he was one who typically di.
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26. As a mother, I got a lot of quet
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27. nobody has ever... Ever answere.
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28. Many believe that gino's death,
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29. but for over 30 years, family ms
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30. have believed it to be murder.
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31. Well, I think there are a lot o,
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32. and it just comes from us being.
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33. We're trying to figure out the.
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34. The only people that know what.
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35. Was whoever was there.
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36. A lot has been taken away from,
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37. and god has blessed me to let mg
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38. and say this, finally...
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39. I think my son was murdered.
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40. I don't think it... I almost kn.
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41. In this episode, we put to rest,
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42. and investigate one of wrestlin.
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43. beautiful pictures, beautiful ms
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44. with our beautiful family.
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45. Aw.
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46. He had a wonderful personality..
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47. He was a good son. He was a goo.
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48. And I want everybody to remembe.
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49. I think the hardest thing for ma
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50. bad guy, and as a child at the,
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51. like, people throwing pennies a,
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52. all these girls coming up to th,
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53. "sign it," and he'd like rip it.
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54. And I was like a little girl. I"
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55. he's such a bad guy.
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56. as I say, in the ring, gino was.
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57. Don't attempt to adjust your se,
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58. the most gorgeous human being o.
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59. He had it. He was special.
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60. He was the type of guy that coue
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61. randy "macho man" savage or som,
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62. so who knows where gino would '.
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63. You can't buy it; you can't ste;
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64. you can't borrow it.
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65. You either got it or you don't,
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66. and that's called charisma, and.
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67. Yeah, tag matches. Yeah.
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68. Who's the wrestler that you hat?
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69. - Gino! - Gino!
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70. And gino was a cocky, arrogant,
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71. If you were to see gino, you wos
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72. connected or he was a celebrity.
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73. He always just looked like mone.
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74. He was all about the finest sui,
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75. the finest custom-made shirts,
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76. the rings and the watches. You.
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77. And it wasn't a gimmick; that w.
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78. If he wanted to, he could take e
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79. everybody in that room hating hd
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80. wanting to kill him, in real li.
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81. I overcome any obstacle in my l,
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82. and especially some hormone-imbe
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83. that tries to stick her nose in!
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84. And he could talk.
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85. And it's easy to hate somebody,
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86. got money, or whatever.
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87. Got the pretty girl on the side.
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88. Must be nice.
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89. Full head of hair. He's got all.
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90. I'd like to show you and the pe.
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91. Farrah fawcett, I thin.
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92. Who does she choose to be?
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93. If my wife was on the front rows
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94. he would say to 'em, I don't knt
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95. I wouldn't be waiting outside t.
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96. It almost came natural for him.
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97. One night, gino had said somethd
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98. to the point, this big cowboy gp
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99. and he was headed to the ring.
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100. And the police stopped him.
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101. Well, gino starts saying, "let,
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102. let him come in here," to the pt
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103. he convinced the police to let.
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104. And then gino's telling me, "st"
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105. he's whispering in the back of,
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106. but I told him in the dressing,
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107. "you bit that off, you chew it."
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108. david manning.
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109. I was the referee and promoter,
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110. and booker for world class chamg
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111. from '77, '78 'til around '89.
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112. probably, I'd been in the busint
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113. 3, 4 years, 5 years, when gino.
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114. At that time, I was a referee a.
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115. The greatest thing about gino b,
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116. one, the microphone.
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117. Gino's one of the few pieces of-
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118. I'd actually put gino in the ca,
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119. a jim cornette, a michael hayes,
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120. the people that you just hand 'c
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121. and they can do it.
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122. Tonight's the night!
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123. I told ya, I brought out the $6.
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124. Tonight, the world junior heavy!
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125. Not bad for a kid from spring b?
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126. You know, he was real close wit,
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127. in houston, where gino got his.
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128. "gorgeous" gino.
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129. I remember meeting gino when hee
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130. 17, 18 years old.
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131. Good looking guy, you know, goo,
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132. and had chicks all over him.
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133. Full of himself, conceited.
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134. I was just a kid, so he, he tre.
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135. At the time.
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136. I was a professional model at o.
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137. Most of the time I just took cad
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138. my son, gino. I was a single pa.
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139. Do you prefer to call?
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140. - Mm-mm. Gino. - Gino?
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141. Well, if you were a wrestler, we
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142. the name charles or gino?
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143. 'cause gino always referred to.
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144. "gorgeous" gino hernandez!
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145. gg with a, two g's on the back.
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146. I had luis's name.
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147. Gino sometimes would kind of pr,
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148. brag that his dad was luis hern.
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149. Lord, yes.
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150. - can you talk about it? - From.
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151. well, I've always been a fan of,
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152. and my father was a wrestler and
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153. when I was 12 years old.
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154. And, I began to start training g
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155. from the time I was in high sch,
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156. and I turned professional at th,
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157. right out of high school.
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158. When he got into the ring,
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159. it was like he had been wrestli.
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160. He was flying off the rope and,
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161. "where did he learn that from?"
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162. he said, "my dad did it for me.
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163. I was wearing his shoes."
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164. he said, "he did everything for,
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165. I had to cry when he told me th.
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166. We were married very young. We.
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167. And we had our first child, so.
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168. I'm janice gillespie, and I gre,
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169. and that is where I met charles,
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170. who you might know as gino hern.
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171. After we were married, he kept,
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172. so he had his professional life.
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173. And, he'd work out in the morni,
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174. and then he'd have a workout ind
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175. it really consumed most of his.
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176. And then he had his family.
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177. There was really very little mi.
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178. There was the soft side of him.
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179. He was really a pushover.
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180. He loved his children very, ver.
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181. Everybody knows I'm the man of,
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182. the man with the power, too swe.
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183. You know, going back and like w,
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184. and, and hearing him talk...
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185. 227 pounds of twisted steel and.
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186. It's like a voice I always knew.
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187. Really, everywhere we went, peo.
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188. He would get into his persona,
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189. especially when he became a hee.
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190. He would really be very, very id
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191. made me very uncomfortable to b,
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192. when you would see him like tha.
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193. Has there been times,
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194. in your life where your wrestlia
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195. has bled into your real life?
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196. Jake roberts never had a in.
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197. He's a bad mother er that doy
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198. and he's gonna do what he pleas,
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199. and he's gonna go on with life.
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200. Don't with him. He will.
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201. Aurelian smith, on the other ha,
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202. is a human being, man. He cares.
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203. He's made some mistakes.
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205. So, yeah, that guy has problems.
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206. Jake "the snake" doesn't.
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207. For people to get mad at me fory
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208. I'm the latest and I'm the grea,
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209. and I'm so fine that I'm divine.
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210. For people to say I'm conceited,
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211. I don't understand it.
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212. He lived his gimmick in the rin.
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213. We're into sports cars, we're I.
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214. Faster women, and fast life.
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215. He lived it, he ate it, and he.
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216. He loved every minute and
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217. he could bring that on just lik.
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218. And I, I used to tell him, "you.
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219. I know who you are."
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220. I know that he and chris had a,
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221. the dynamic duo.
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222. Chris adams was, ah...
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223. He was a good guy.
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224. He could be a good friend as lo.
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225. They were a great team.
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226. We got the looks! We got the ab!
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227. And we got the money, we got th,
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228. we got the build.
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229. And from now on, we are number!
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230. - We're bad, we're real bad. - .
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231. We're bad to the bone.
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232. Alright. They're bad to the bon.
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233. Well, there they go,
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234. chris adams and gino hernandez.
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235. See you, guys!
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236. Gino's social life and his life,
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237. was just as flamboyant as
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238. inside the coliseum when gino c.
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239. Matter of fact, one of the high,
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240. one of the biggest draws we eve.
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241. It's all come down to the cotto.
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242. And it was gino and chris adams
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243. against kevin and kerry. A hair.
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244. Chris and gino both had just go,
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245. you know, the whole thing. The.
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246. And the von erichs both had lon.
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247. So, people weren't sure what wa.
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248. And he would get in that ring a.
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249. He knew exactly what he was doi.
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250. I've seen a lot of wrestlers in,
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251. and I've seen a lot of guys try,
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252. and he was such an artist.
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253. And, sure enough, gino and chri.
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254. I remember they would hold 'em d
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255. they brought the razors out.
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256. The crowd was going crazy. They.
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257. They were so happy these guys w.
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258. And they had the perfect reacti,
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259. and it just elevated the feud.
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260. there was a nightclub in houstot
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261. gino frequented quite a bit; tho
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262. on a Friday night after the mat.
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263. And, party all night long.
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264. My name is jeanie williams.
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265. In 1985, chris asked me to move.
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266. And he said, "you live next doo"
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267. so gino and I were neighbors.
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268. Gino was front and center, man.
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269. It wasn't like it was a secret,
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270. from smoking dope, to cocaine,
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271. and uppers and downers.
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272. It was the 70s and 80s and we a.
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273. I never saw gino out of control.
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274. But gino liked to party and hav.
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275. Gino comes knocking on the door.
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276. His eyes are huge and he's like,
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277. "touch my head. Oh my god, my h"
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278. 'cause they'd just had their ha.
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279. And so, we all decided we'd go.
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280. We get in the car and he's goinr
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281. and he, he has this tiny piece r
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282. and he says, "just take this."
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283. we get to the club and then eve,
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284. everything's going all strange.
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285. Gino is laughing.
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286. I want to go to the bathroom, a,
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287. it was like my feet were going,
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288. I'd come to find out afterwardst
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289. gino had given me some acid.
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290. I was in las vegas one time, an.
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291. Gino had a friend with him.
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292. This particular gentleman was—.
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293. They had rented the whole top s,
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294. just partying for like 3 days.
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295. But I knew a lot of those guys -
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296. I don't know if they were furni.
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297. From that time on, after las ve,
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298. it was just a slowly, progressi.
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299. Gino just, he ran with a...
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300. Pretty tough crowd in houston.
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301. You know, if you hang around tr,
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302. you're gonna get trouble.
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303. It's like I always say, gettingg
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304. is like getting into the mob. O.
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305. It can go the other way, too.
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306. So, you gotta watch who you han.
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307. unknown to his family, gino hadh
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308. a fast and dangerous crowd,
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309. but the party wouldn't last muc.
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310. I just heard it was like...
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311. Nah, I don't know. I'm not gonn.
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312. I don't know. I don't know, man.
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313. Ah... That's, that's— what I s.
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314. I heard that it was people thath
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315. that had power in the city of h,
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316. and there are certainly those k.
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317. Well, when our children were yo.
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318. I just didn't feel so safe aboue
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319. he might hang out with, things.
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320. These were strong powerful peopt
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321. might not have liked certain th.
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322. There was just a side of him an,
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323. they were, I felt, dangerous.
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324. by 1986, there was a shift in t,
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325. which saw chris and gino turn a,
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326. igniting a vicious rivalry.
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327. I'm gonna kill him!
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328. That's what I'm gonna do, I m g!
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329. Yeah, one of gino's last matche.
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330. We did a gimmick where...
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331. I think it's nair, it was like,-
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332. girls, to get rid of hair -
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333. gino sprayed it in chris's eyes,
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334. chris wore this thing. He could.
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335. And stuff like this, and...
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336. Whatever the gimmick was in the,
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337. that was the gimmick out of the.
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338. And so, even around in the publ,
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339. chris would, you know, like he.
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340. And, his wife, toni, would leadd
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341. bumping into chairs and...
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342. That's what I really liked abou.
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343. Whatever happened, you took it.
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344. Super bowl Sunday, 1986.
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345. He was in a hurry, always in a.
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346. mhm...
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347. Mhm.
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348. He was very fidgety and nervous.
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349. Say what you gotta say, and lea.
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350. She knew something was going one
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351. to her home, and he had somethit
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352. somewhere in her home. And...
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353. He was acting...
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354. Nervous and antsy, and felt lik.
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355. Something might happen to him.
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356. And who it was, I don't think sw
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357. who he was afraid of, or who he.
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358. Do you know what he h,
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359. that you're referring to?
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360. No.
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361. Was he nervous? Yeah, real nerv.
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362. And gino wasn't afraid of anyth,
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363. but there's certain things you.
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364. If somebody wants to get you, t.
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365. he came to the matches one nigh,
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366. and he came running in my offic,
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367. and he was telling me this stor.
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368. And he said, "you wouldn't beli.
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369. You wouldn't believe it."
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370. he said, "I'm driving and I lood
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371. I can see someone sitting in th"
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372. and he said, "I didn't know wha,
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373. "so I'm watching to see if theye
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374. or whatever," and he says, "so,
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375. I just slammed on the brakes ant
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376. the back and they ran off."
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377. and he said, "I think they were"
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378. he's like, "I need a gun."
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379. I could just tell, he was scare.
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380. And so, I said, "no, I don't ha"
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381. I said, "but I think you're oka,
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382. maybe you just saw something."
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383. and he was like, "no, no, no. T.
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384. I'm afraid something's gonna ha,
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385. you know, I gotta get a gun. I "
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386. he was adamant someone was sitte
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387. backseat of his car, and he gotm
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388. through his rearview mirror.
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389. Maybe gino was telling me the ts
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390. that someone was either stalkin,
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391. or someone was after him, or so.
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392. That night was the last night I.
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393. The last time I saw gino alive,
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394. "hey, kiddo, look what I got hed
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395. a white box and he said it was.
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396. And he said he was going out,
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397. but if I wanted to stop by the,
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398. "come and have a slice, it's de"
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399. on my birthday February the 5th.
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400. Walter called me. He was gino's.
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401. He did a lot of gino's bookings,
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402. "patrice, have you heard from g"
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403. I said, "no. Why?"
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404. he said, "well, I need to, I ne"
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405. "I haven't heard from him, but d
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407. I'll tell him to give you a cal"
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408. the next day, I saw gino's car.
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409. I noticed the car was sort of o,
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411. He missed a show up in oklahoma,
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412. and that wasn't like him, but I.
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413. And then we couldn't reach him.
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416. The next day, the car was still.
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418. Knocking on his door, and I can,
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419. but I did see a pie, the pie.
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420. And then I heard that, you know,
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421. he didn't show up in houston,
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422. which was definitely unusual.
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423. When I went to the office on mod
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424. I hadn't heard from gino...
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425. I said, "we got a problem."
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426. one of the guys that worked ref,
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427. of course, was named rick hazza.
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428. And I said, "rick, why don't yo,
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429. see if his car's there."
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430. and so, he called me, and he sa,
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431. "well, the car's here, but no o"
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432. and I said, "why don't you see t
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433. over the wall and just peek in."
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434. and sure enough, rick got over.
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435. The way the bed was laying, at,
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438. And where the bed ended,
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439. he could see part of the body h.
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440. At that point, they called the.
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441. The cops said he had been layin,
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445. They got in 'cause walter was t.
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446. There was a gun on the scene,
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447. so I don't know where gino got,
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448. but there was a gun on the scen.
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449. I was standing outside chris's,
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450. actually, and they're bringing,
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451. in a body bag. It was just like.
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452. Something you're, you're in den.
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453. Probably about, I'd say, very s,
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454. walter calls me again.
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455. And he said... "patrice, this—"
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456. and I said, "do you— did gino "
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457. I said, "he hasn't called me, b"
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458. he said...
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459. "yeah... I'm standing here in h"
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460. I said, "well, is he okay?" he "
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461. and he hung up.
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462. and I just started screaming.
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463. death came to gino hernandez.
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468. To his mother and sister,
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469. it was a tragedy of indescribab.
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470. Police arrived at the home of wz
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471. in February of 1986, and discov.
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475. and police found no sign of drur
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477. Yeah, I was grieving. Mica and.
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478. And, he just knocked on the doo,
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483. We were both sitting facing eac,
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485. If I can recollect, he says to.
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486. "gino owed me a lot of money,
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488. 'cause I'm gonna pay for his fu"
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494. looks at you when they stick th-
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495. and they lean in to you like,"
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497. Nothing... Nothing.
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511. and that was just painful to kn.
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521. And, "to you, gino!" drinking t,
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524. When you were looking at all of,
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525. it just was surreal, to a point.
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527. There was a gentleman there tha,
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531. It was just weird. It was tonal,
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532. and it was almost like people g,
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533. "who the is this guy?"
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534. and, to some of us that hadn't,
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539. And people made comments like,
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540. "do you know who that is?" and.
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541. If you were putting me on the l,
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542. I wouldn't know who it is.
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543. But people talking about, "oh,
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544. He's wanted by the authorities,"
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545. I don't know who the hell he is.
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546. Who was the guy that gave the e?
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549. I mean, I didn't know anything.
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550. As far as I know, right now he'.
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551. I would've done just pretty mucn
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552. just to make sure my daughter w,
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553. and I was too.
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554. And that's the way it's been al.
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555. I hadn't talked to anybody unti.
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556. as the hernandez family mourned,
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558. Rumors began to fly throughout e
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560. So, a lot of people, when gino,
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561. were immediately telling the st,
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562. "here's what happened."
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563. andre the giant told us that het
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564. gino had been shot in the head.
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565. And that was not the case.
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566. I heard from somebody that he wt
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567. he used to take trips down to h,
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568. several times a week to go down.
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569. For what, I don't know.
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570. The rumor mill was that he had t
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571. he owed some money on a footbal.
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572. And so, you got all these diffe,
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573. and with chris and with gino,
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576. from concerned fans,
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577. who say hernandez might have be.
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578. and immediately it's like, well.
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579. Why? The guy blinded him.
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580. Had you ever heard ths
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581. called the police saying it mus?
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582. I did hear that, and I think th.
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583. Contact chris about the murder.
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584. That goes to show just how belie
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586. that somebody would go to the d,
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587. Jesus, he killed that guy becauy
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589. This is a case that we're talki.
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590. And there's been a lot of rumor.
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591. None of the family members were.
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592. His corpse, his body was just s.
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593. Um, I think walter.
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594. It would just be too shocking bn
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596. Now, I'm pretty meticulous abou.
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599. anything that I could get my hae
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600. I never got to go in his apartm.
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601. As a mother, got a lot of questy
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602. has ever... Ever answered me.
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603. I said, well, I tell you what,
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604. I'll just do my own investigati.
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605. And if, if I can find out the r,
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606. I'll contact that person and ta.
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608. and that's exactly what I did.
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609. I think there was foul play in,
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611. When he walked into his apartme,
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612. he locked the doors.
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613. And he had a deadbolt on the in,
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615. It never made any sense to me.
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616. The deadbolt wasn't on, and he.
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617. So, somebody was there with him.
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618. Well, who was there with him?
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619. And left him alone?
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620. If it would 'a been me, and I w,
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621. "you need to do an autopsy 'cau"
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623. When they found him and he was,
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624. had been dead for a while. I as.
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625. I believe they said that it mig.
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626. I remember talking to the coront
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629. I believe I was told he had enot
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637. Makes you question, you know,
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638. what the hell happened?
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639. Autopsy report said he was morb.
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640. It said that he was hispanic.
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641. She asked me, she said, "now,
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642. I'm pretty sure about this beca,
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643. I did give birth to him. Was gi"
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644. I said, "well, he was."
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645. well, the autopsy report said I.
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646. Well, first of all, is that eve?
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647. If it's not him... I wondered s,
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648. could he have, would he have fa?
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649. When we were married, there was,
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650. I don't remember the name of it.
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651. The main character had faked hi.
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652. He was some sort of trouble, whn
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653. or he was trying to hide from s.
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654. He had left a, a wife and a chi,
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655. and came back like 7 years late.
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656. Gino had said, "I'm gonna do th.
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657. That's what I would do."
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658. well, I wished that it wasn't h.
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659. But, I know in my heart that if,
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660. I'd 'a heard from him by now.
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661. She was wanting to push for ansd
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662. really push for answers.
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663. And as a mother, I felt for her.
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664. We had the discussion then, wel,
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665. if we start stirring the pot,
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666. what's gonna keep them from doi,
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667. you know, our children?
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668. It feels like he was probably k,
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669. that somebody murdered him. It.
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670. that's what the rumblings were,
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671. that he had been murdered.
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672. And I could certainly see that.
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673. Some of the people he hung with.
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674. He may have pissed somebody off.
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675. If he were in some way involved.
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676. Maybe he knew something.
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677. And...
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678. Maybe they were worried he woul.
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679. Conspiracy theories about gino',
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680. but it would take over 30 years
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681. before answers began to surface.
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682. in the days leading up to gino',
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684. fearful of something, or... Som.
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685. Of course, you know, this is,
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686. this is hearsay, you know.
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687. But, it seems to be that genera,
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688. weeks leading up, or prior to h,
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689. he felt like he, somebody was g.
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690. To hear multiple people saying t
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691. from him as well, maybe this wa.
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692. You know, maybe this is what ha.
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693. I was going to my car and he wa,
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694. and he says, "hey, why don't yo,
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695. have a couple drinks?" so, I sa"
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696. we actually walked to his apart.
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697. He walked into the kitchen and.
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698. He took out a cereal bowl and t.
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699. There was a lot of cocaine in t.
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700. And he put that on the counter,
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701. and he started using the cocain.
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702. it wasn't very long, maybe... ()
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703. 30 minutes, 40 minutes later,
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705. he wasn't being angry to me, bu,
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706. "sh, don't speak."
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707. he kept going to the back and l.
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708. He had a, quite intense paranoi.
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709. He puts a plug in the sink, and.
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710. Turns on the water.
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711. The water started coming over t,
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712. dripping onto the floor.
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714. he stops me, pulls me back.
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715. He was like, "sh!"
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716. the water was still falling on.
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717. I turned, just around a little,
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718. and he had a gun in his hand.
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719. My heart started to beat kind o,
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720. and he was holding me, telling.
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721. Could hear nothing but the wate.
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722. And he seemed to be comforted tt
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723. it was covering up sound of som,
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724. just the sound of the water see,
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725. for whatever reason, he found t.
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726. He would go to the windows and t
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727. stare outside into the darkness,
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728. just looking outside into the d.
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729. You can see he was afraid, it s.
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731. yeah, 'cause I was doing them w.
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732. duh.
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733. You know, I was no saint, man.
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734. I know that gino was doing cokew
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735. how much he was doing, but the e
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736. he damn sure had some, quite a.
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737. Wasn't no 8-ball, that's for da.
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738. I was surprised that there was e
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739. found by the police.
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740. But I did hear rumors that it w.
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741. I would just say a good source t
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742. rick was kind of enough to imme-
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743. there was a bowl.
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744. He said it was crazy, it was al.
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745. And he said, "I've never seen t.
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746. It was full of coke."
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747. just out of reaction, he just t.
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748. I don't think anyone else that.
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749. I don't know who he thought may,
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750. but you know...
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751. I think he just did it out of I.
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752. Some of the wrestlers, includin,
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753. said there might be more to it.
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754. Where was he getting so much co?
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755. I was afraid then, very,
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756. 'cause I haven't talked about I.
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757. 'cause I, I got tired of lookinr
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758. every time I walked out the apa,
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759. and I been living like that eve.
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760. Nobody should have to live like.
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761. Took a lot of my life away from.
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762. And now, you know, 77, where do?
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763. it's too much secrecy, too much.
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764. Too much deceit.
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765. I truly believe he's not here te
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766. people he chose to be around.
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767. I have nothing to lose 'cause I.
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768. You know, you can't take any moe
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769. than you already have.
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770. All we really want is just an a.
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771. Shortly after gino's family tol,
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772. producers contacted john royal.
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773. He had recently served a 30-yeam
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774. for trafficking cocaine.
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775. What follows is their recorded.
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776. We're doing a documend
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777. we've been talking a lot with h,
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778. and your name has come up a coue
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779. you were close friends with gin.
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780. Gino's mother had told us a sto,
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781. a time when you approached her r
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782. that you were gonna pay for the,
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783. is that true?
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784. I think you had also said that d
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785. owed you a lot of money.
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786. Is that something that you had?
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787. Right.
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788. Well, that's really good to kno.
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789. Had you ever heard an,
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790. gino's death not being somethin.
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791. No.
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792. Right.
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793. In addition to john royal's sto,
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795. has come forward with his versi.
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796. yeah, I really want.
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797. This was 30 years ago and I'm ne
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798. to sugarcoat anything. I wanted.
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799. You know, I would like to set tr
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800. the people who are concerned ab.
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801. I wanted you to hear y
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802. about... About him and about, a.
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803. Thank you very much. I'm sorry.
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804. It's okay. I know this is—
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805. when you wait this long, 32 yea.
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806. and yes, I miss him. I pray for.
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807. I talk to him. She knows that.
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808. I get up at 4 o'clock every mor.
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809. - She was up this morning. - Ye.
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811. Okay, let me know when you're r.
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812. - Okay. I'm ready. - Okay.
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813. There's nothing I ca.
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814. I'm only doing this because I dy
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815. to worry one more minute.
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816. If they've been worried for 30,
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817. you know, 29 years and 364 days.
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818. I met gino through some of the p
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819. and we got to be good friends.
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820. This was the 80s and disco was,
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821. and the cocaine and drugs were,
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822. and we kind of saw the opportunt
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823. involved in selling drugs.
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824. And, one of the guys in the gro.
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825. Cultivated a connection.
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826. He would bring it in and he wouh
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827. a certain amount of it, and notw
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828. that gino was involved in this.
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829. He was a professional wrestler,
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830. and he saw us starting to make d
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831. he thought it'd be a good oppor.
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834. and it was just something that s
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836. Do you remember giving a eulogy?
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837. Do you remember what you said?
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838. I know it was a long time ago.
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839. It's a great line...
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840. Unfortunately, I felf
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841. recreationally using the drugs,
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842. and I think the drugs got hold.
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843. And, of course, we were all, yo,
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844. super concerned because we weret
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845. we knew could get us in a lot th
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846. we weren't gangsters, or...
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847. At the same time, I don't thinkd
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848. every bush like gino seemed to.
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849. Just knowing gino, I would imagy
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850. went to a club and probably dra,
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851. and he probably came back to hi,
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854. I don't know gino's family, butm
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855. directly and say, do not be cong
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856. that happened to gino. It was,
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857. just a situation of his own doi.
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858. I know that's hard to hear becam
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859. and I loved him, too, but...
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860. If you're concerned about anyth,
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861. you should put that at rest becr
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862. 30 years and I can absolutely tu
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863. there's nothing to worry about.
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864. I can't take those years back.
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865. But I still have my daughter. A.
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866. It's just nice to know that we e
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867. anything to worry about.
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868. Not anymore.
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869. And I thank you very much for t.
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870. I want to believe that it was a.
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871. I want to believe that...
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872. somehow, some way...
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873. Um... He made a mistake.
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874. That's what I want to believe.
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875. I'm the type of person, I can f.
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876. You know? Yes, I forgive john r.
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877. I forgive anybody that I though,
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878. but I didn't know any different.
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879. Had nobody tell me, outright.
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880. Watching my grandma, she, she's.
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881. I mean, she's gone through thins
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882. that no mother should ever have.
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883. And sometimes you look at her a,
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884. you know, you can't believe thad
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885. that she's still smiling today.
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886. But she is, you know, and that'k
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887. the piece of life that goes on.
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888. But now I know, there's nothing.
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889. Nothing. I feel so good.
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890. I could even have a margarita.
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891. All right! (lau)
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892. the legacy of gino hernandez, u,
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893. he wasn't around long enough to.
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894. I would like to see 'em put gin.
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895. I think gino was that good.
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896. I want him to be remembered for.
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897. and he made me, as his mother,
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898. I hear a lot that I look like m.
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899. My mom used to say, "you look l.
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900. You talk like your dad."
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901. it's smooth sailing from here o!
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902. I have 5 children. I have 2 gir.
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903. And you see little pieces of eam
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904. through those videos; that's wh.
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905. With you guys here and doing th,
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906. it's kind of like I finally get.
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