1. It's a whole different attitude.
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make a new man out of me.
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3. I'm skipping beer,
giving up the cigars...
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4. Now she's thin again.
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5. That's how he was. He wanted to
do everything right now.
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6. Can I ask you a personal question?
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7. What do you do
with all that money?
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9. Did your husband
have any health problems?
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10. Get off my back, Milo.
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11. All right. Now, let me
have my coffee first.
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12. He's quite a character, isn't he?
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13. And those cigars you smoke...
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14. they're gonna kill you.
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15. Mr. Janus' office.
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16. Hi, Jess. Buddy. Did I catch him in?
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17. You did, but he's on the other line.
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18. When he gets off, have him call me
at the Chatsworth place.
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20. Critical important
or urgent important?
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21. It's both.
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22. Right.
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23. Arnold...
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25. These people paid a lot of money
for a Milo Janus franchise...
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a lot more to operate them.
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28. I'm telling you...
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29. to raise the price to $288 a gross.
Two gross minimum.
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30. Two gross?
Where do you want the money?
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31. That's right, Arnold. I want the money
deposited in my New York account.
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32. And, Arnold, my accountant
is checking the books, so don't be late.
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33. All right.
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34. All right, Arnold.
I'll talk to you on Friday.
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36. Mr. Castle called, Mr. Janus.
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37. He's at the Chatsworth spa.
He'd like you to call him right away.
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38. Call him back for me, will you?
And Jessica, don't record this one.
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39. Yes, sir.
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40. Hi, Mr. Janus.
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41. Hey, Charlie. How's it going?
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42. - Not bad.
- Say, you're looking good.
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43. He still in the office?
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44. He's got files all over the place.
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45. You want me in there with him?
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46. No, I think it's better
if I talk to him alone.
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47. Milo, talking is not gonna help.
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48. We'll see.
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49. Hello, Gene.
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50. Milo Janus.
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51. Milo...
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52. you're a thief.
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53. Now, what kind of a greeting is that?
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54. Did your boy Castle
tell you to come up here?
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55. I thought he would.
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56. I should have torn his head off.
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57. Calm down, Gene.
Stress is bad for your blood pressure.
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58. There's nothing wrong
with my blood pressure.
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59. It's my bank account
that's worrying me.
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60. You've got a nice racket going, Milo.
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61. So smooth.
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62. Gene, why don't you please tell me
what's bothering you?
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63. This is what's bothering me.
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64. An invoice from the Green Eagle
Gym Equipment Corporation.
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65. $2,650.
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66. And I can buy the same stuff
from a discount house half-price, retail.
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67. But not the same quality.
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68. Get off my back, Milo.
You own that company.
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69. And...
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70. Sentry Office Supplies.
And Lewis Furniture Company.
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71. Gene, I told you when you bought
this franchise...
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72. that you were going to have to deal
with certain suppliers.
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73. Now, I told you that, Gene.
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74. All owned by you.
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75. My mark-up is very small
but I have to maintain quality.
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76. - That's what gives me control.
- You've got control, all right.
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77. In the meantime I'm being bilked.
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who plunked down $150,000...
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What happens to the money?
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82. Advertising. Promotion.
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83. Every cent that I make
is reinvested in the company.
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84. When I grow, Gene, you grow.
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85. Bull.
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86. Now, you may be able to fool
those other suckers, but not me.
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87. No chance.
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88. I didn't spend 18 years
as corporate controller for nothing.
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89. And I can smell flim-flam
right down to the paper clips...
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90. you make me buy.
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91. And I'm gonna prove it.
It's here someplace.
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92. And I'm gonna stay at this desk
till I find it.
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93. I don't care if it takes a weekend,
a week, a month...
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95. Gene, I don't know what you're talking about.
I have no secrets from you.
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97. How about...
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Bristol, England?
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99. I stumbled on that almost by accident.
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100. That's how you're getting the funds
out of the country, isn't it, Milo?
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101. I can smell it.
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102. I really don't know
what you're talking about.
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103. All right.
But when I get things put together...
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104. you can explain it all
to the Securities and Exchange Commission.
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105. In the meantime...
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106. I'm gonna get the rest
of these suckers together...
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107. and we're gonna start
a class-action case against you.
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108. And between the SEC and us...
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109. I'm gonna hook you, Milo.
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110. Gene, you're working too hard.
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111. That's what's wrong with you.
You need some rest.
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112. I'm serious.
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113. Have a nice day.
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115. Don't worry about it.
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116. Look, he said he's working late,
after closing.
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117. You want me to stick around,
keep an eye on him?
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118. No, let him work.
He won't find anything.
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119. And in eight months, I'm gonna be in my villa
overlooking the Adriatic...
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120. with two million in Swiss francs
to keep me warm.
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121. Buddy, relax, will you?
You worry too much.
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122. To show you how much that guy bothers me
let's throw a little party tonight at my house.
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123. Invite that little girl.
What's her name?
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124. - Frieda.
- Invite Frieda.
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125. Charlie's got us a horror film.
X-rated and uncut.
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126. See you at my place, huh?
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127. Hey, young lady, what are you still doing here?
I thought you'd be home by now.
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128. I didn't know if you'd still
be needing me, sir.
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129. You usually call if I can go.
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130. Well, I didn't call, actually,
because I'm a devious man...
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131. and I wanted to talk to you.
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132. I'm having a little get-together at my place
and if you don't have any other plans...
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133. I won't by 6:30.
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134. Good.
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135. I have to go and see Howard Parker
around 7:30.
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136. I don't know how long
that's gonna take.
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137. So I think it would be a good idea
if you filled in for me until I get there.
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138. You don't mind driving
yourself out to the house, do you?
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139. I think I can handle that.
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140. Good.
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141. You know, there's one thing
that bothers me about you.
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142. What's that?
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143. You're a little unsure of yourself.
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144. I'm very unsure.
But I'm encouraged by your response.
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145. Key?
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147. Right.
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148. I think I'll file today's tapes.
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149. That's all right, let me do that.
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150. I want you to get
to the house by 8:30, okay?
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151. How's 8:15?
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152. Hi, Jessica.
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153. Gene Stafford. Can I speak to him?
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154. Hi, Jessica.
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155. Gene Stafford. Can I speak to him?
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156. Hello, Gene.
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158. Well, I thought I'd stop by...
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159. and try and help you answer
some of those questions.
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160. Well, I'm doing just fine without
your help, thank you very much.
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163. I have one to all my franchises.
Sometimes it comes in handy.
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164. Well, you can just help yourself
right out the door.
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165. Bits and pieces.
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166. That's all I had a week ago.
Nothing really damaging.
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167. But now,
it's starting to all fit together.
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168. You're sharp, Milo.
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169. Oh, you're sharp.
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170. But once you wipe away
all that camouflage...
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171. it still adds up to grand larceny.
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172. Grand larceny?
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173. Come Monday morning this neat little world
of yours is gonna...
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175. And it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
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176. That stuff will kill you, Gene.
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180. So, anyway...
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181. Lennie gets me off to the side...
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182. and he says to me, "Buddy,
what are you trying to do to me?"
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183. He knew what you were trying to do.
He just wanted to hear you admit it.
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184. Listen, if I had any scruples, you think
I'd be in this racket?
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185. This is worse than that
real estate deal in San Diego...
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187. Hey, host! It's about time.
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188. Hey, I'm really sorry I'm late.
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189. When does the show start?
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190. Hey, Buddy was telling me how much
trouble you had getting this print.
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191. Yeah. Hey, listen, I'm sorry I'm late.
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192. - But you know that creep Parker?
- The automobile dealer?
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193. Yeah, well, he said he wanted to
talk to me about opening a store...
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and the creep is closed.
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195. Can you imagine?
Driving across the town for nothing?
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196. I'll be with you in a minute.
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197. Hey, you thirsty?
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198. Yeah, could I have
some orange juice?
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199. Please. Some Vitamin C.
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201. Hello.
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202. Hi, Jessica.
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207. - Gene Stafford.
- Thank you.
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209. Still at the gym?
Don't you know what time it is?
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210. You can exercise anytime.
We're having a party.
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We'll be going till dawn.
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I don't want you to pass out.
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I'll see you on Monday, huh, Gene?
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219. He's been working in the office all day,
you know what he's doing now?
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220. He's working out in the gym.
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221. He's a walking testimonial
for the Milo Janus health program.
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222. With his gut? Are you kidding?
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223. - Morning.
- Morning, Lieutenant
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226. The place was closed.
He decided to work out alone.
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228. All right. Now, let me
have my coffee first.
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229. Hey, Nolan.
You got this thing dusted yet?
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230. Yeah. All finished.
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231. Let's go.
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You said that he was here alone...
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He owns the place.
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last night.
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236. Could've been an accident,
a heart attack, anything.
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237. You know, before coffee, I'm up,
I'm walking around, but I'm not awake.
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239. Lieutenant...
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You can take it right through that door.
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243. There's a call for me.
Where can I take it?
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in Stafford's office.
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First door to your right.
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You know what time it is?
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Harry and Ethel, Norman...
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256. Well, how would I know what to feed them?
What did you feed them the last time?
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257. You want to give them spaghetti,
give them spaghetti.
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261. Would you be quiet
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262. I got an idea.
I'll bring something back.
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263. Chinese, okay?
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264. You decide what you want,
you call the place...
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265. and on the way home, I'll pick it up.
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266. That's right.
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268. I'm gonna hang up.
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269. You can keep talking,
but I'm gonna hang up.
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272. Oh. Excuse me, no, I was just looking
at these marks on the floor.
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273. - This floor is recently waxed, isn't it?
- You're damn right.
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274. Lieutenant Columbo. I'm from the police.
What do you do here, sir?
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275. I'm the custodian, Murphy.
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276. I'd appreciate it, Lieutenant,
if you could keep these guys off the floor.
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277. I spent an hour last night waxing up
to get rid of marks like this.
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279. - What kind of marks are these?
- They're heel marks, Lieutenant.
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280. You cops don't care how hard a guy
has to work, do you?
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281. You don't have to clean this floor.
I do.
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282. Yeah. Look, I'm sorry about that.
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283. What time did you say
you waxed the floor last night?
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286. Yeah.
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after you waxed it?
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and maybe Mr. Stafford.
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290. He was working in his office
last night when I left.
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291. Only it wasn't him, because he was
wearing sneakers like you're supposed to.
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292. Well, listen, you're absolutely right.
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293. I'm gonna tell the guys
to be more careful.
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294. - Thank you.
- Thank you very much.
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- My shoes?
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298. Yeah, the bottom of your shoes.
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307. Yeah, the bottoms of your shoes.
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308. - Black.
- Yeah, sure, they're black.
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they wear black shoes, right?
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312. Newly waxed floor, there's a bunch
of brown heel marks in there.
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or brown heels?
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Any brown heels?
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320. Yeah.
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321. Mr. Stafford have a locker?
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322. - Sure.
- I'd like to see it.
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327. How come it's locked?
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328. Maybe he didn't want nobody
to take anything, Lieutenant.
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- He was.
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332. Sure. I got a master key right here.
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335. No, I figured since he was still here
when I left that I'd get it in the morning.
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What is that, coffee?
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That rug's only five weeks old.
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338. Be careful, don't touch anything.
I want to dust these for prints.
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That's very good, Lieutenant.
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341. They're brown, all right.
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342. Oh, Lieutenant, we checked all the windows
and doors and everything.
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345. Yeah. Locker room key
next to his body on the floor.
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with that barbell...
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on his neck...
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his windpipe was crushed.
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355. But who knows? Maybe he died
of a coronary first.
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last night.
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359. Yes, well, maybe some local tong
had it in for him.
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Or maybe he just died of overeating.
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to wait for the autopsy.
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368. Am I sure what, ma'am?
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who you were looking for.
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about something else.
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He's down at the beach, running.
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376. Running? Oh, sure.
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Mr. Janus' secretary.
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he swears he's 51.
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this is Lieutenant...
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- Columbo.
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Pleasure, nice meeting you.
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fantastic shape you're in.
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to put some effort into it.
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started getting depressed.
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because all she wants to do is eat.
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She got involved...
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down, up...
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to like a woman that...
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that's something else but...
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wrapped up in these exercises...
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So she didn't eat so much.
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I gotta tell you this...
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I wouldn't eat much of that, either.
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428. Those soybeans, the wheat germ...
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429. not that it's not good for you.
You know, I'm sure it's terrific...
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430. but, see, I happen
to like a bowl of chili...
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431. I like a rare steak now and then...
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432. Lieutenant, I'm sure you didn't come all the
way out here to discuss your eating habits.
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433. No, sir. As a matter of fact, I didn't.
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434. Maybe I'm just trying to avoid it
because I don't have pleasant news.
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435. I believe you knew
a Mr. Eugene Stafford.
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436. Knew?
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437. - Yes, sir. I'm afraid he's dead.
- Oh, no.
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438. I'm sorry, ma'am.
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439. Gene, dead.
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440. How, Lieutenant?
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441. He was alone last night in the gym and...
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442. He had an attack.
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443. I knew it.
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444. What do you mean?
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445. I said to him last night not to try
to do too much too quickly...
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446. without supervision.
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447. You spoke to him last night?
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448. Yeah. He called me last night
from the gym around...
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449. What time was it, Jessica?
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450. I don't know...
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451. A little after 9:00, I think.
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452. I better write this down.
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453. What time did you say that was?
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454. A little after 9:00.
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455. And what did he say, exactly?
Did he sound as though he were alone?
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456. As a matter of fact, Lieutenant,
he said he was alone.
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457. You know, this is all so senseless.
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458. I warned him against working out heavily
without proper supervision.
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459. A man his age, you know,
it's not a good idea.
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460. I asked him to come over
to the party...
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461. but he said he'd already changed
into his gym clothing.
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462. He was gonna work out for about
a half hour and then go home.
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463. A man his age...
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464. sitting around for years,
getting fat and flabby...
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465. and then he suddenly realized
how he's abused his body...
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466. tries to correct it just like that.
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467. That's why he had that heart attack,
Lieutenant.
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468. Well, we're not sure of that.
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469. All we know is that he was working out
with a barbell.
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470. He could've collapsed.
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471. Or it could've slipped.
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472. But it fell on his neck
and crushed his windpipe.
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473. Oh, my God.
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474. I'm sorry, ma'am.
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475. Perhaps you'd like to sit down.
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476. Oh, no, I'll be all right.
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477. Why don't you change clothes?
We have to be at the office at 10:00 anyway.
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478. All right. Yes, I'll do that.
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479. I won't take up any more
of your time, sir.
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480. Thank you very much.
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481. Boy, that must have hurt
like the devil.
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482. - What's that?
- That burn mark.
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483. That is a burn mark, isn't it?
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484. Yeah, that's a burn mark.
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485. Yeah...
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486. I accidentally put my hand under the
hot water this morning while I was shaving.
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487. Yeah, they hurt like the devil.
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488. Yeah, the last time that happened to me
I spilled some hot coffee on myself.
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489. That's what happens, you know.
You don't think what you're doing.
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490. Oh, one more thing, sir.
I went out to see Mr. Stafford...
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491. I understood he was married, but there was
no one else there in the house.
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492. Gene and Ruth have been
separated for months.
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493. She's living at the Crestlane Apartments
in Beverly Hills, Lieutenant.
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494. Lieutenant, I really don't know
how I can help you.
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495. First I knew about Gene's death...
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496. was when a man from your department
came by this morning.
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497. Yes, ma'am. And I'm terribly sorry
for your loss.
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498. Oh.
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499. Well, I'm not so sure
I lost Gene last night. I mean...
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500. maybe it was a few months ago,
a few years ago.
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501. You see, last September,
when our son Robbie went off to school...
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502. it was the first time that Gene and I
had been alone together in 18 years...
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503. and we found that we didn't really have
a lot to say to each other.
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504. Well, that happens.
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505. It does. You're sure that...
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506. Sit down, then.
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507. Thank you.
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508. Well, now...
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509. what can I do for you?
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510. I was wondering, ma'am...
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511. did your husband
have any health problems?
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512. Blood pressure...
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513. heart condition...
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514. anything like that?
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515. I mean, not that I know of.
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516. Lieutenant, I'm really curious.
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517. When...
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518. one of your men came by
this morning...
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519. he said that Gene had been killed by
a weight falling on him or something.
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520. Well, we'll know more
after the autopsy.
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521. I was wondering, do you know of anybody
that your husband had problems with?
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522. - Personal problems or business problems?
- Oh, yes.
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523. I mean, between Milo Janus and me,
he didn't have anything but problems.
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524. And what kind of a problem
did he have with Mr. Janus?
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525. Business. I mean, he was just very upset
by the way business was going.
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526. And our lawyers were negotiating
a property settlement...
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527. and when talk came up
about the health spa...
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528. I understood Gene was gonna sell it
as quickly as possible.
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529. Why are you asking me all this?
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530. Gene's death was accidental,
wasn't it?
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531. Well, it certainly appears that way,
yes, ma'am.
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532. But you don't think so, huh?
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533. Oh, I don't think anything
at this point. It's too early.
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534. Well, if you're looking for a motive...
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535. I certainly had one.
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536. I gave Gene everything.
He gave me nothing back.
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537. I should be bitter.
I'm not. I loved him.
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538. And I don't have an alibi
for last night.
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539. Well, I wasn't gonna ask you anything
like that, ma'am.
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540. Oh.
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541. Well, thank you very much.
You've been very helpful.
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542. Sure.
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543. Oh, there is one other thing.
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544. How did your husband
get involved with Mr. Janus?
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545. I don't know what you mean.
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546. Well, how did they meet?
Have they been friends long?
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547. No. No, they haven't,
and they met...
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548. just a few months ago...
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549. at a party given by Buddy Castle.
He's a mutual friend.
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550. - Thank you.
- Sure.
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551. Oh, I almost forgot.
Maybe you can help me.
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552. Who is Lacey?
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553. Lacey?
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554. Yes, I noticed several entries
in your husband's calendar.
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555. "Speak to Lacey. Call Lacey."
But there was no phone number.
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556. No?
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557. Wait, yeah.
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558. When Gene was working
for Tricon Industries...
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559. there was a man named Lacey.
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560. Lewis Lacey.
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561. Lewis?
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562. L-e-w or L-o-u?
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563. I don't know. I mean,
might not even be the same man.
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564. - Lewis Lacey.
- Right.
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565. - Thank you.
- Sure.
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566. Bye-bye.
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567. With a knick-knack, paddy whack
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568. Throw the dog a bone
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569. This old man is going home
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570. Oh, this old man, he played two
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571. He played knick-knack on my shoe
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572. With a...
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573. Mr. Janus!
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574. Mr. Janus!
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575. Mr. Janus!
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576. Mr. Janus...
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577. I stopped by your place.
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578. Your housekeeper told me
you were down here swimming.
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579. Twenty minutes a day.
You ought to try it, Columbo.
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580. I'm afraid not, sir. I can't swim.
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581. I don't even like a deep tub.
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582. What can I do for you?
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583. Well, I just want to check
a few things out, sir.
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584. We found that the autopsy report
confirmed what we originally thought.
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585. There's no question about it...
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586. that Mr. Stafford died of suffocation
when his windpipe got crushed.
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587. That doesn't surprise you,
does it?
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588. No, sir.
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589. But they did find out something
else and that bothers me.
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590. It seems as though Mr. Stafford sent out
for a large meal around 7:30.
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591. Chinese.
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592. Chinese?
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593. Yes, sir.
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594. He ordered some egg foo Yung...
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595. and he had some egg rolls...
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596. barbecued spare ribs...
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597. pork fried rice.
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598. Slow poison.
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599. I guess he was hungry.
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600. He told the delivery boy
he was hungry.
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601. Apparently, he'd been working
at his desk all day and he skipped lunch.
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602. So what?
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603. Well...
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604. I happened to be reading
this book of yours...
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605. The Milo Janus Guide
to Health and Fitness...
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606. and... Incidentally, it is
a terrific book.
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607. But it says in here somewhere...
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608. that strenuous exercise
after you eat is very bad.
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609. That's right, Lieutenant.
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610. Don't you think that's strange, sir?
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611. That Mr. Stafford
would eat a huge meal...
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612. and a half hour or so later
work out with a huge barbell?
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613. No, not really, Lieutenant.
Not knowing Gene.
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614. That's how he was.
He wanted to do everything right now.
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615. Forget about the rules.
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616. Lieutenant, look, I've got an
appointment in about an hour.
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617. Well, there's just a couple of other things
that I'd like to ask you.
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618. All right, well...
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619. why don't you ask me the questions
while I continue my workout, huh?
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620. - Yes, sir. Certainly.
- Good.
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621. Come on, Lieutenant.
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622. Get those knees up. That's it.
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623. Come on.
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624. 30 minutes a day, Columbo. That's all.
You'll be a new man.
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625. I'm out of shape, sir.
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626. No question.
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627. And those cigars you smoke...
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628. they're gonna kill you.
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629. Yes, sir.
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630. I tell you,
that's how I feel right now.
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631. Said you had some questions.
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632. Yes, sir.
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633. I...
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634. I just want to catch my breath.
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635. Well, you go ahead.
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636. I can split my concentration.
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637. So whenever you're ready...
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638. you just go ahead, huh?
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639. Well...
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640. yes, when I'm ready.
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641. Oh, I wanted to ask you
about a Mr. Castle.
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642. Who?
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643. Mr. Castle. Buddy Castle.
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644. Oh, Buddy. Sure.
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645. You must have known him
a long time.
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646. Yeah, Buddy and I go way back.
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647. He's quite a character, isn't he?
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648. How's that, Lieutenant?
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649. Well, what I mean, sir, is...
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650. Well, I understand
he's got quite a reputation.
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651. What do you mean, "reputation"?
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652. Well, what I mean, sir, is...
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653. he has a record.
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654. A criminal record.
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655. You knew about that?
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656. Yeah.
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657. Three years' probation...
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658. for a fraud conviction in Florida.
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659. Eleven years ago.
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660. I know everything I'm supposed to know
about people I deal with, Columbo.
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661. Let me tell you something.
Buddy is no thief.
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662. He's a victim of circumstances.
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663. Well...
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664. the circumstances, sir, at least as far
as I understand them...
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665. are that...
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666. he and his partners,
they stole nearly $400,000...
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667. from some unsuspecting investors.
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668. It was an oil speculation.
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669. Some partners.
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670. They're the ones
that should have gone to jail.
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671. Buddy was an innocent bystander...
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672. and I'm happy to have given him a break.
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673. Well, that's wonderful.
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674. I mean, wonderful that a man in your
position would take that attitude.
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675. I don't care what people think.
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676. Buddy is as honest as I am.
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677. Yes, sir.
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678. You want a shoelace or something?
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679. Oh, no, sir. I think this will...
I'll get this, thank you.
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680. It'll be good if I can get the knot
through the hole.
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681. I got the knot too low. I don't know
if I can get it through here.
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682. Lieutenant.
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683. Yes, sir?
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684. Can I ask you a question?
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685. Yes, sir.
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686. Why are you here?
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687. Sir?
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688. Why are you here?
Why are you sitting there in that chair...
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689. asking me these questions?
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690. Gene Stafford slipped.
He fell. He died.
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691. Unfortunate, yes...
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692. but just an unfortunate
accident, nothing more.
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693. Well, you see, sir, we're
not really certain of that yet.
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694. Oh, you mean that...
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695. maybe the egg foo Yung
he ate just before he exercised?
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696. No, sir, it was
the scuff marks, really.
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697. Scuff marks?
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698. Yes, sir.
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699. You see...
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700. we found these scuff marks
there on the...
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701. I'll be a son of a gun.
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702. I remember when I was a kid,
my grandfather...
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703. he had a piece of furniture,
it was exactly like this.
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704. Your grandfather must have been
a very wealthy man.
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705. This piece is over 200 years old.
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706. Well, that sounds right.
My grandfather, he only had old furniture.
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707. You know, he didn't
believe in buying new.
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708. Just like this.
There was a mirror here...
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709. and on this side...
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710. Would you like to sit down?
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711. Oh, yes. Sorry.
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712. And a mirror on that side.
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713. What about those scuff marks?
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714. Oh, the scuff marks. Right.
Gee, I almost forgot.
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715. What about them?
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716. Oh, yeah...
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717. on a newly waxed gym floor,
scuff marks.
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718. - Yeah?
- Brown ones.
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719. Mr. Stafford's shoes
had brown soles and brown heels.
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720. You mean that...
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721. Gene walked over the newly waxed
gym floor?
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722. Walking on the fray wouldn't create
these particular kind of marks, sir.
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723. No, he would have to stop short
or turn abruptly...
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724. you know, something like that.
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725. As a matter of fact, I had some of the boys
from the department...
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726. come down there and try to duplicate
those exact marks.
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727. That's what they had to do.
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728. I mean...
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729. if he was chasing somebody
or somebody was chasing him...
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730. scuffle...
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731. struggle.
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732. You get my point?
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733. No, I don't, Lieutenant.
Have you had breakfast yet?
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734. - No, sir.
- Would you care to join me?
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735. Well, I don't want to put you out.
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736. No, it's no trouble, really.
Here, put your hand out.
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737. I just take these, and...
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738. Yeah, that's breakfast.
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739. That's breakfast, huh?
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740. Are you having any?
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741. Sure.
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742. - The same thing?
- Same as you.
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743. Say, there's something wrong
with this orange juice.
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744. It's carrot juice, Lieutenant.
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745. Oh.
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746. You mentioned something
about a struggle?
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747. Yes, sir, the struggle.
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748. The heel marks...
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749. Just put this down for the moment.
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750. The lab definitely established...
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751. that the heel marks belong
to Mr. Stafford's shoes.
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752. And I got to thinking, "Under what
circumstances would a man...
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753. run on a newly waxed floor
with shoes on?"
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754. After all, he's got his own sneaks
in the locker and he should know better.
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755. So you think, you know, if somebody
was chasing him...
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756. or if somebody was trying
to harm him.
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757. Trying to harm him how?
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758. Well, I don't know.
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759. Just a thought...
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760. but if somebody was chasing him
and they caught him...
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761. then whatever happened...
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762. that's when he could have
had his neck broken.
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763. It's possible.
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764. Well.
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765. Of course, the problem there
is that he had his shoes on...
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766. when the guy was chasing him...
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767. but when we found the body,
of course...
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768. he'd changed into sneakers
and gym clothes.
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769. So this is just speculation
on my part...
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770. but it is possible that if
someone did this to him...
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771. they would have changed his clothes
to make it look like an accident.
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772. Lieutenant, you have my statement...
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773. and I've already told you...
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774. when I talked to Gene,
he'd already changed into his gym clothing.
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775. Right, you did say that.
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776. Right.
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777. Well, thank you, sir.
Thank you very much for your time.
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778. - I appreciate everything you've done.
- Pleasure, Lieutenant. Lieutenant, your pills.
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779. Yeah, I'll save these for lunch.
Thank you very much.
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780. Remember, fresh air, exercise...
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781. Yeah, and diet, I remember.
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782. Right, good diet. Excuse me.
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783. Hello?
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784. Oh, hi, Buddy.
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785. Listen, can I get back to you
in a little while?
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786. I have somebody here with me.
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787. I'll meet you in the office
sometime after 10:00.
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788. Good.
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789. You got a light out.
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790. What?
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791. I said, you got a light out.
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792. When a call comes in,
isn't the button supposed to light up?
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793. Oh, I hadn't noticed.
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794. Thanks. I'll call someone
and have them fix it.
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795. Thank you again.
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796. Excuse me, no smoking.
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797. Oh, this is not lit.
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798. In the ashtray, please.
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799. Is it all right if I just hold it?
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800. Company policy,
no smoking on the premises.
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801. Full name. Last name first,
first name last.
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802. Fill out boxes
"A," "B," "C" and "D."
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803. - "E" and "F" are for company policy.
- Ma'am?
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804. And you can step over to the table
when you're finished.
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805. Ma'am.
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806. You'll find all the pens
you want on the table.
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807. I'm a police officer.
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808. Why didn't you say so?
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809. Applications for security position
are in room 502.
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810. Right down the hall.
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811. I'm not here for a job, ma'am.
I'm on official business.
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812. I want some information.
Lieutenant Columbo is my name.
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813. I'm trying to locate a Mr. Lacey.
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814. A Mr. Lewis Lacey.
I understand that he's employed here.
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815. Lacey?
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816. Is that L-a-c-e-y?
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817. I think so.
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818. And Lewis. With and an "E"
or with an "O"?
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819. Not sure.
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820. What department?
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821. I don't know.
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822. I'll be with you in one moment.
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823. Ma'am?
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824. Excuse me.
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825. I'm a little pressed for time,
so when you get done with that machine...
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826. I'd appreciate it if you took care
of my request.
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827. Our EDS is preparing you
a hardcover copy to your coded request.
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828. Oh, that is my request?
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829. Yes, sir.
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830. Oh!
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831. Just want to know where he works.
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832. You'll have all the information you need
in one moment.
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833. Anything you want?
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834. Are you sure you put
the right thing in? I mean...
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835. Well, we seem to be getting
an awful lot of information there.
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836. That's why I asked.
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837. You think we could just do it
on the phone?
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838. Oh, I'm sorry, sir. A phone call
would be much too complicated.
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839. You sure that's not stuck?
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840. No, sir. It's not quite finished.
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841. What was this Mr. Lacey?
Was he the president here?
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842. No, he must have been
very important because...
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843. Forget it.
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844. I think it's over.
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845. Thank you.
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846. Lacey, Lewis.
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847. He's a GH-84.
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848. A what, ma'am?
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849. He's been terminated.
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850. You mean he doesn't
work here anymore?
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851. That's what I said.
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852. Well, do you have a home phone,
or a home address... Something like that?
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853. Sir, the Tricon Delta 214
is a total spectrum retrieval system.
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854. You'll find all the information you need
right there.
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855. Oh, thank you very much.
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856. You're quite welcome.
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857. Tricon is always happy to cooperate
with the authorities.
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858. Yes, I can see that.
Copy !req
859. Excuse me, ma'am, is there a phone here
that I might use?
Copy !req
860. Yes, sir.
Right over to your right.
Copy !req
861. Thank you very much.
Copy !req
862. Hello, this is Lewis Lacey.
Copy !req
863. Yeah, Mr. Lacey, this is Lieutenant Columbo,
and the reason I'm calling...
Copy !req
864. I'm away from my desk now,
but expect to be back shortly.
Copy !req
865. Please leave your name and number...
Copy !req
866. and I will return your call
as soon as possible.
Copy !req
867. You may start talking
when you hear the tone.
Copy !req
868. This is Lieutenant Columbo.
Copy !req
869. I am from the homicide department
of the police.
Copy !req
870. I would like to speak to you
as soon as possible.
Copy !req
871. You can reach me
at the main precinct.
Copy !req
872. The telephone number there is...
Copy !req
873. You can look that up.
Copy !req
874. I am usually there
in the mornings.
Copy !req
875. Thank you very much.
Copy !req
876. Mrs. Stafford?
Copy !req
877. Yes, I'm Ruth Stafford.
Copy !req
878. Lewis Lacey, Mrs. Stafford.
Copy !req
879. I'm not sure you remember me.
We met at a Tricon party some years back.
Copy !req
880. Sure, I do. Sure. Come on in.
Copy !req
881. I feel so awful about Gene.
Copy !req
882. He's been very good to me,
giving me this work to do...
Copy !req
883. ever since Tricon terminated me.
Copy !req
884. My profound sympathies.
Copy !req
885. Thank you. Come on in. Sit down.
Copy !req
886. - Can I get you a drink?
- No.
Copy !req
887. - No, thank you.
- Well, how about some wine?
Copy !req
888. - No.
- Are you sure? I'm having some.
Copy !req
889. Mrs. Stafford, I'm afraid I don't know
quite what to do.
Copy !req
890. Do about what?
Copy !req
891. Well, Gene paid me several hundred dollars
to do some research for him...
Copy !req
892. and I haven't been able to get very far.
Copy !req
893. And what kind of research?
Copy !req
894. Well, my field is corporate law...
Copy !req
895. and I've been doing some checking
on a Mr. Janus.
Copy !req
896. Milo Janus.
Copy !req
897. - Oh. Will you have some?
- No.
Copy !req
898. What kind of checking
you been doing?
Copy !req
899. Well, I was following the
corporate trail, so to speak.
Copy !req
900. I was working on tax records,
corporation charters...
Copy !req
901. to find what business interests
Mr. Janus has.
Copy !req
902. Financial worth of companies,
that sort of thing.
Copy !req
903. Gene hired you to find out
if Milo's a thief, right?
Copy !req
904. Yes, that was his intention,
I believe.
Copy !req
905. Well?
Copy !req
906. Is he?
Copy !req
907. I don't know.
Copy !req
908. Mr. Janus is
a very shrewd businessman...
Copy !req
909. but everything I've found
seems totally proper.
Copy !req
910. In a legal sense, of course.
Copy !req
911. Mr. Stafford promised me
some further names to run down.
Copy !req
912. A couple of overseas companies
where Mr. Janus has been funneling money...
Copy !req
913. apparently without notifying
the Internal Revenue Service.
Copy !req
914. I don't suppose
he mentioned the names to you.
Copy !req
915. - No, he didn't.
- Oh.
Copy !req
916. I really don't know what to do.
Copy !req
917. I can't go any further without them.
Copy !req
918. I mean, I'm not even sure
you'd want me to continue.
Copy !req
919. I don't really feel
as if I've earned the money.
Copy !req
920. No, don't think about it.
Don't worry about that.
Copy !req
921. These are my notes.
You should have them.
Copy !req
922. Thank you. I'll look at them.
Thank you.
Copy !req
923. I liked your husband
very much, Mrs. Stafford.
Copy !req
924. I'm terribly sorry.
Copy !req
925. Thank you. So am I.
Copy !req
926. Thanks for coming by.
Copy !req
927. - Bye.
- Bye-bye.
Copy !req
928. Mr. Castle?
Copy !req
929. Trying to talk to you
for a couple of days.
Copy !req
930. Lieutenant Columbo.
Copy !req
931. You want to talk
to me, Lieutenant?
Copy !req
932. I'm investigating
the death of Mr. Stafford.
Copy !req
933. Well, I can't tell you anything.
I wasn't there.
Copy !req
934. The custodian...
Copy !req
935. Do you have a pencil?
Copy !req
936. No, I don't.
Copy !req
937. The custodian, Murphy...
Copy !req
938. he says he left the building
at 7:00.
Copy !req
939. Did he?
Copy !req
940. You got to Mr. Janus',
at what time was that, sir?
Copy !req
941. 8:30, 9:00. Something like that.
Copy !req
942. Would you mind telling me
where you were between...
Copy !req
943. 7:00 and the time you arrived
at Mr. Janus' house?
Copy !req
944. 7:00, I was home getting dressed.
Copy !req
945. I left about 7:30.
Copy !req
946. I picked up Miss Frieda Berk...
Copy !req
947. and we went directly
from her place to Milo's.
Copy !req
948. B-e-r-k?
Copy !req
949. Yeah, it's German.
Copy !req
950. Frieda Berk.
Copy !req
951. What is this all about, Lieutenant?
Gene Stafford died accidentally.
Copy !req
952. You make it seem
as if he were murdered.
Copy !req
953. I didn't say that.
Copy !req
954. Well, it's either that or you like
to waste people's time...
Copy !req
955. by asking a lot
of foolish questions.
Copy !req
956. I have an appointment in seven minutes.
So may I please be excused?
Copy !req
957. One thing, sir.
Copy !req
958. You a stockholder
in Mr. Janus' enterprise?
Copy !req
959. A minor one.
Copy !req
960. I was trying to find out
a little bit more about the business.
Copy !req
961. I spoke to a Mr. Lacey.
Copy !req
962. Who?
Copy !req
963. L-a-c-e-y.
Copy !req
964. I finally talked to him this morning.
Copy !req
965. I don't know any Lacey.
Copy !req
966. Look, if you want to know something
about the business...
Copy !req
967. you talk to Milo.
He handles everything himself.
Copy !req
968. Now, will you excuse me?
Copy !req
969. - Excuse me.
- Yes?
Copy !req
970. Oh, Lieutenant...
Copy !req
971. Columbo.
Copy !req
972. We met a couple of days ago
at Mr. Janus' house.
Copy !req
973. I remember, Lieutenant.
Copy !req
974. I was wondering,
do you think that I could...
Copy !req
975. Excuse me.
Copy !req
976. Mr. Janus' office.
Copy !req
977. No, I'm sorry,
he's not here right now.
Copy !req
978. He's at our Chatsworth spa
for the next week or two.
Copy !req
979. Yes, that's right.
Copy !req
980. Sure, you can call him there.
Thank you.
Copy !req
981. Well, you just answered my question.
Copy !req
982. What's that, Lieutenant?
Copy !req
983. No, I was wondering whether
I could see Mr. Janus...
Copy !req
984. but I heard you say that he's up
at the Chatsworth spa.
Copy !req
985. Yes, until we find somebody else.
Copy !req
986. You know, that's very interesting.
Copy !req
987. What do you do,
you record all calls on that?
Copy !req
988. Mr. Janus seems to think
it's a good precaution.
Copy !req
989. You get some pretty strange people
with some pretty strange ideas.
Copy !req
990. Oh, you mean lawsuits.
Copy !req
991. We've had our share.
Copy !req
992. So this way you protect yourself.
You record all calls.
Copy !req
993. Along with a log. Yes.
Copy !req
994. Can't be too careful. Very smart.
Copy !req
995. Excuse me.
Copy !req
996. Mr. Janus' office.
Copy !req
997. Oh, yes, Mrs. Stafford.
I'm sorry, he's not here right now.
Copy !req
998. He's at our Chatsworth spa.
He'll be there for a week or two.
Copy !req
999. Perhaps you'd like
to call him there.
Copy !req
1000. 555-9214.
Copy !req
1001. Mrs. Stafford?
Copy !req
1002. Well, this is fascinating. You don't
suppose I could hear how this works?
Copy !req
1003. Certainly, Lieutenant.
Copy !req
1004. Mr. Janus' office.
Copy !req
1005. This is Ruth Stafford.
I want to speak to Mr. Janus.
Copy !req
1006. Oh, yes, Mrs. Stafford.
I'm sorry, he's not here right now.
Copy !req
1007. What do you mean, "not there"?
Where is he?
Copy !req
1008. He's at our Chatsworth spa.
Copy !req
1009. He'll be there for a week or two.
Copy !req
1010. Why wasn't I told?
Who gave him that right?
Copy !req
1011. Perhaps you'd like
to call him there.
Copy !req
1012. What's the number?
Copy !req
1013. 555-9214.
Copy !req
1014. Mrs. Stafford?
Copy !req
1015. That reminds me of my sister-in-law.
Does she always sound like that?
Copy !req
1016. How's that, Lieutenant?
Copy !req
1017. You know, a little smashed.
Copy !req
1018. Well, I wouldn't know.
I seldom speak to her.
Copy !req
1019. Oh, you spoke mostly to him.
Copy !req
1020. Yes, that's right.
Copy !req
1021. Then I suppose you have a
lot of recordings with his voice.
Copy !req
1022. Yes, Lieutenant.
Copy !req
1023. I think I'll run over
to the Chatsworth spa.
Copy !req
1024. Oh, one more thing.
Copy !req
1025. The night that Mr. Stafford died...
Copy !req
1026. you went over to Mr. Janus' house.
What time was that?
Copy !req
1027. Around 8:15.
Copy !req
1028. And...
Copy !req
1029. Mr. Janus wasn't there
at that time, is that right?
Copy !req
1030. Yes, that's right.
He had to go see a prospective buyer.
Copy !req
1031. He didn't get back to the house
until a little after 9:00.
Copy !req
1032. And that's when Mr. Stafford called?
Copy !req
1033. More or less. Mr. Janus came home...
Copy !req
1034. and then he went into the study
to start the film projector.
Copy !req
1035. Oh.
Copy !req
1036. That's when Mr. Stafford called.
Copy !req
1037. Yes.
Copy !req
1038. May I borrow a pencil?
Copy !req
1039. Sure.
Copy !req
1040. Are you certain it was Mr. Stafford
that was on the line?
Copy !req
1041. Yes.
Copy !req
1042. You're sure?
Copy !req
1043. I recognized his voice, Lieutenant.
Copy !req
1044. What did he say?
Copy !req
1045. "Hello, Jessica,
this is Gene Stafford."
Copy !req
1046. What was his attitude?
How did he sound?
Copy !req
1047. Businesslike, as usual.
Copy !req
1048. Then I take it it's not unusual...
Copy !req
1049. for you to be in Mr. Janus' house
in the evening.
Copy !req
1050. Yes, Lieutenant.
Copy !req
1051. As a matter of fact, that was
the first time I was ever there.
Copy !req
1052. What are you driving at?
Copy !req
1053. Nothing to do with you, ma'am.
Copy !req
1054. No, I was just wondering...
Copy !req
1055. if Mr. Stafford was used to having you
answer the phone in the office...
Copy !req
1056. why wasn't he surprised when
you answered the phone in the house?
Copy !req
1057. May I keep this?
Copy !req
1058. Sure.
Copy !req
1059. Now, Mr. Janus, he's got
two telephone lines into his house.
Copy !req
1060. 6901 and 6902.
Copy !req
1061. That's right.
Copy !req
1062. Do you remember which line
the call came in on?
Copy !req
1063. No, I'm sorry.
Copy !req
1064. Oh...
Copy !req
1065. do you remember
when the call came in...
Copy !req
1066. did the light under the button light up?
Copy !req
1067. Yes.
Copy !req
1068. As a matter of fact, Lieutenant,
it was the second line, 6902.
Copy !req
1069. Thank you very much, ma'am.
You've been very helpful.
Copy !req
1070. - Good evening.
- Good evening.
Copy !req
1071. - Chianti for the gentleman?
- Thank you.
Copy !req
1072. Would you like some wine?
Copy !req
1073. Sure?
Copy !req
1074. No, I want to keep a clear head.
Copy !req
1075. Thank you.
Copy !req
1076. You know, stress isn't good
for you, Ruth.
Copy !req
1077. Why don't you relax
and try and enjoy yourself?
Copy !req
1078. I know you still love him.
Copy !req
1079. I never tried to hide that.
Copy !req
1080. He was a wonderful guy.
Copy !req
1081. You know, much more than
just a business associate.
Copy !req
1082. Oh, come on, Milo, cut it out.
Copy !req
1083. Don't pretend with me.
I know what you're doing.
Copy !req
1084. Doing? I don't understand.
Copy !req
1085. You're moving in on the spa already.
You're taking it over.
Copy !req
1086. That's just temporary until
I can find a buyer for you, Ruth.
Copy !req
1087. Suppose I don't want a buyer.
Suppose I want to run the business myself.
Copy !req
1088. Well, you don't have any experience.
Copy !req
1089. I could learn.
I could get a good accountant...
Copy !req
1090. someone who understood the books.
Copy !req
1091. But you might not approve of that.
Copy !req
1092. That's what Gene was doing.
Before he died.
Copy !req
1093. He was working on the books.
But you knew that, didn't you?
Copy !req
1094. No, I didn't.
Copy !req
1095. Milo, let me ask you something.
Copy !req
1096. Let me ask you something
about the M.J. Manufacturers.
Copy !req
1097. That broken-down pill factory...
Copy !req
1098. where you manufacture health food
and then sell it for six times the cost.
Copy !req
1099. Now, look, Ruth...
Copy !req
1100. Okay, I won't ask you about that.
Copy !req
1101. I'll ask you about the Green Eagle
Manufacturers...
Copy !req
1102. where you manufacture
Milo Janus gym equipment.
Copy !req
1103. Damn it, Ruth,
I have to maintain quality.
Copy !req
1104. Profits. Profit.
Copy !req
1105. What do you do
with all that money, Milo?
Copy !req
1106. Reinvest it. In the franchises.
Copy !req
1107. When I grow, you grow.
Copy !req
1108. I don't think so.
And Gene didn't think so.
Copy !req
1109. What Gene thought...
Copy !req
1110. or what Gene could have proven...
Copy !req
1111. that's a different matter.
Copy !req
1112. Let it be, Ruth.
Copy !req
1113. You can live comfortably
for the rest of your life.
Copy !req
1114. I will sell your franchise.
Copy !req
1115. But if you keep making
these wild accusations...
Copy !req
1116. the value of your investment's
gonna go down, Ruth, way down.
Copy !req
1117. A threat?
Copy !req
1118. No. Not a threat.
Copy !req
1119. Just sound advice. You don't know anything
about the business world.
Copy !req
1120. The real business world. And for that matter,
neither did your husband.
Copy !req
1121. He lived in that ivory tower
of Pentagon bureaucrats, pushovers.
Copy !req
1122. It's a lot tougher selling apples
on the street corner.
Copy !req
1123. That's what I do,
and I do it successfully.
Copy !req
1124. And no one's gonna spoil it, Ruth.
Copy !req
1125. No one. Understand?
Copy !req
1126. Have some wine.
Actually, it's very good.
Copy !req
1127. Relax.
Copy !req
1128. Later we'll go over to my place.
Copy !req
1129. Where are you going?
Copy !req
1130. Out.
Copy !req
1131. Can I do something for you?
Copy !req
1132. - What do you say, Buddy?
- Hi, Milo.
Copy !req
1133. Hey, did you set up that appointment
with Parker? I think he's ripe now.
Copy !req
1134. Yeah, I got a call and I booked
you lunch at the club.
Copy !req
1135. Good.
Copy !req
1136. We've got another small problem.
Copy !req
1137. If it's a little problem, you handle it.
Copy !req
1138. I don't think I can, not this one.
Copy !req
1139. What's he doing here?
Copy !req
1140. Well, you know that
introductory 30-day offer...
Copy !req
1141. we've been pushing on television?
Copy !req
1142. - Yeah.
- What he's doing here.
Copy !req
1143. Hey, Mr. Janus, how you doing?
Copy !req
1144. Listen, I gotta tell you,
this is terrific.
Copy !req
1145. I'm starting to feel
like a new man already.
Copy !req
1146. Fine, fine, Columbo.
Copy !req
1147. Of course, you know, I've only been
on it for about 20 minutes...
Copy !req
1148. but you know what it is?
It's a whole different attitude.
Copy !req
1149. I mean, I believe that this is gonna
make a new man out of me.
Copy !req
1150. I'm skipping beer, giving up the cigars
no more chili.
Copy !req
1151. That's fine, Columbo.
You'll have to excuse me.
Copy !req
1152. I've got some paperwork
I have to take care of.
Copy !req
1153. Just a few more questions
that I want to ask you.
Copy !req
1154. Columbo, I don't have the time.
Copy !req
1155. Excuse me, sir. I gotta get back to work.
Copy !req
1156. I thought I'd pop in.
It's about the barbell.
Copy !req
1157. What?
Copy !req
1158. The barbell, sir. I was talking to
some of the people around here.
Copy !req
1159. It weighs 180 pounds.
It's a heavy thing to lift.
Copy !req
1160. I understand that Mr. Stafford never
lifted anything heavier than 150 pounds.
Copy !req
1161. That's right.
Copy !req
1162. When he tried to lift
180 pounds, it killed him.
Copy !req
1163. Yeah, it certainly did.
But you know...
Copy !req
1164. I guess there's not
a lot of people around here...
Copy !req
1165. Lieutenant, I don't mean to be rude
but I told you in the gym...
Copy !req
1166. I'm really very busy.
Copy !req
1167. I'm pressed myself,
so I'll make it fast.
Copy !req
1168. Where was I?
Copy !req
1169. Oh, yes.
Copy !req
1170. I guess there's not
a lot of people around here...
Copy !req
1171. that could press 180 pounds.
Copy !req
1172. Outside of yourself, of course.
Copy !req
1173. Me?
Copy !req
1174. Well, I understand that you
once pressed 250 pounds.
Copy !req
1175. I wanna tell you,
that's a lot of weight.
Copy !req
1176. Listen, I got
a little confession to make.
Copy !req
1177. You know, I tried
to lift up that barbell.
Copy !req
1178. I couldn't get the damn thing
above my knees.
Copy !req
1179. I mean, it shows you
the kind of shape I'm in.
Copy !req
1180. Would you please
get to the point?
Copy !req
1181. Oh, yes, sir.
Copy !req
1182. Well, you know some of my thoughts
on this case, and...
Copy !req
1183. You know, the possibility in my mind...
Copy !req
1184. that maybe the barbell
didn't kill Mr. Stafford.
Copy !req
1185. You know, that someone
either struck him or choked him...
Copy !req
1186. or something like that.
Copy !req
1187. And if that is the case,
whoever staged it...
Copy !req
1188. to make it look like an accident...
Copy !req
1189. he'd have to be strong enough
to lift up a 180-pound barbell...
Copy !req
1190. and place it on Mr. Stafford's neck.
Copy !req
1191. Are you accusing me
because I once pressed 250 pounds?
Copy !req
1192. Oh, no, sir.
Copy !req
1193. Oh, no, I wasn't accusing anybody.
No, let me explain.
Copy !req
1194. No, what I'm trying
to do here is...
Copy !req
1195. I'm trying to figure out
how many people around here...
Copy !req
1196. are capable
of lifting 180 pounds.
Copy !req
1197. Lieutenant, I can tell you
in the gym right now...
Copy !req
1198. there are at least a dozen men...
Copy !req
1199. that could lift up that bar
and put it on Gene's body...
Copy !req
1200. if that's what happened.
Copy !req
1201. But why don't you accept the fact
that it was an accident?
Copy !req
1202. Well, it's also about the shoes.
Copy !req
1203. Shoes?
Copy !req
1204. Yes, sir, Mr. Stafford's
brown-heeled shoes.
Copy !req
1205. Oh, yeah, you mentioned something
about a struggle.
Copy !req
1206. Well, I wasn't thinking
exactly about that, sir.
Copy !req
1207. No...
Copy !req
1208. you see, the shoes weren't untied.
Copy !req
1209. The shoelaces.
They were still tied.
Copy !req
1210. And it seems funny to me that a man
would take off his shoes...
Copy !req
1211. without untying the laces.
Copy !req
1212. Unless, of course,
he was in a hurry.
Copy !req
1213. But I don't know where he was rushing to.
He was just gonna go work out.
Copy !req
1214. You see, that bothers me.
Copy !req
1215. You know what bothers me,
Lieutenant?
Copy !req
1216. Your constant insinuation that I know more
about Gene Stafford's death...
Copy !req
1217. than I've already told you.
Copy !req
1218. Is that the impression that I give?
Copy !req
1219. Yes, that is the impression
that you give, Lieutenant.
Copy !req
1220. I'm sorry, sir.
Copy !req
1221. If you recall,
I was at home with friends...
Copy !req
1222. when Gene died, remember?
Copy !req
1223. Yes, sir. You certainly were.
Copy !req
1224. Let me see.
Copy !req
1225. You got home a little after 9:00...
Copy !req
1226. and Mr. Stafford called
a few minutes after that.
Copy !req
1227. That's about right.
Copy !req
1228. That's what I have written down.
Copy !req
1229. See? It's right there, sir.
Copy !req
1230. Well, thank you very much.
Copy !req
1231. There's one other thing, sir.
Your secretary...
Copy !req
1232. she said she left the office
around 6:00 that night...
Copy !req
1233. to go home and change and when she left,
you were still in the office.
Copy !req
1234. That's right.
Copy !req
1235. Would you mind telling me, sir...
Copy !req
1236. I don't want to sound
like I'm accusing you...
Copy !req
1237. but it's a question
I really have to ask.
Copy !req
1238. Where were you in those three hours
from 6:00 until 9:00?
Copy !req
1239. What difference can it make?
Copy !req
1240. Oh, it probably doesn't
make any difference...
Copy !req
1241. but I'm gonna tell you
what my problem is.
Copy !req
1242. I got a new boss.
Copy !req
1243. He's a nice man, but he's a little young
for the job.
Copy !req
1244. So he's a stickler for details
and I have to be very thorough.
Copy !req
1245. All right, Lieutenant,
if you must know...
Copy !req
1246. I was in my downtown office
until 7:00...
Copy !req
1247. and then I drove to Pasadena.
Copy !req
1248. May I?
Copy !req
1249. Certainly.
Copy !req
1250. Is that with two "N's"?
Well, what's the difference?
Copy !req
1251. I'll know what it is.
Copy !req
1252. One "N," Lieutenant.
Copy !req
1253. Thank you.
Copy !req
1254. What were you doing
in Pasadena, sir?
Copy !req
1255. I went to Parker Motors.
Copy !req
1256. Mr. Parker, the owner,
was interested in talking to me...
Copy !req
1257. about a Milo Janus franchise.
Copy !req
1258. So I thought I'd drive out there
and discuss it with him.
Copy !req
1259. How'd you make out?
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1260. I didn't.
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1261. When I got there,
the place was closed...
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1262. so I turned around and I drove home.
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1263. He wasn't there.
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1264. What time is it, sir?
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1265. Almost 11:00.
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1266. I gotta check into
the headquarters.
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1267. Thank you very much.
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1268. Thank you, sir.
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1269. Oh, Mr. Janus,
just one more thing, please.
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1270. I thought you had a clock to punch.
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1271. I do. I'm leaving right now.
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1272. It's about Mrs. Stafford.
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1273. I understand that you and she had a little
disagreement in a restaurant last night.
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1274. Have you been following me, Columbo?
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1275. No. What happened was this.
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1276. Mrs. Stafford came down
to headquarters this morning.
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1277. She spoke to some of the fellas
in the other division.
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1278. What other division?
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1279. Bunco.
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1280. - Bunco?
- Yes.
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1281. Made a lot of wild accusations...
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1282. about you, about your operation.
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1283. Now, it's clear Mrs. Stafford is a
very inexperienced businesswoman.
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1284. How's that, Lieutenant?
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1285. The way you run your business operation.
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1286. I spoke to a Mr. Lacey.
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1287. He's somewhat of an expert on business.
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1288. And I suppose he called me a crook?
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1289. No, sir, he never said that.
He said, and he repeated this...
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1290. he said technically,
you're within the law.
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1291. Of course, I can understand how Mrs.
Stafford and even Mr. Stafford...
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1292. how they could get upset
over some of the things...
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1293. that are going on around here.
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1294. That's enough, Columbo.
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1295. I'm tired of your accusations
and your innuendos.
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1296. All I'm trying to do
is determine the facts, sir.
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1297. If you have anything to say to me...
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1298. you say it through my attorney,
is that clear?
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1299. Yes, sir.
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1300. And be damn sure you know
what you're talking about.
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1301. Nurse Colburn, please.
EKG to 447.
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1302. Nurse Colburn, please.
EKG to 447.
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1303. Excuse me, Lieutenant Columbo.
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1304. I understood they brought
a Mrs. Stafford in.
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1305. Oh, yes, she's in ICU.
Dr. Freeman's with her now.
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1306. It's down the hall to your left.
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1307. Dr. Golden,
call seventh floor, please.
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1308. Dr. Golden.
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1309. Excuse me. How is she?
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1310. Well, she'll live,
but it was close.
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1311. What happened?
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1312. Booze, pills. A deadly combination.
A neighbor found her.
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1313. Lieutenant.
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1314. You're gonna be all right.
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1315. I knew he was cheating Gene.
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1316. And I told him I knew.
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1317. He just laughed at me.
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1318. All right, take it easy.
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1319. Guess I had too much to drink.
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1320. And then I couldn't sleep.
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1321. His face just kept going around and around
laughing and laughing.
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1322. I'll be in the waiting room.
You get some rest.
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1323. Dr. Dormer...
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1324. check with x-ray lab,
please. Dr. Dormer.
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1325. How is she?
They won't tell me a thing.
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1326. What do you care?
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1327. - Ma'am.
- What's that supposed to mean?
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1328. May I have that magazine?
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1329. You don't care whether she lives or dies.
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1330. As a matter of fact, she's drinking
because of you...
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1331. because she thinks you're responsible
for the death of her husband.
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1332. And you want to know
something? So do I.
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1333. I warned you in my office.
Don't you...
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1334. I checked your alibi for the time before
you got to the house. It doesn't wash.
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1335. First of all, I don't need an alibi...
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1336. and secondly, I was at Parker Motors.
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1337. You said they were closed
when you got there.
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1338. The fact is, they've been open every night
until 9:00 for the past month.
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1339. - May I have that magazine?
- Have they?
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1340. That's right.
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1341. Got a match?
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1342. Your health program didn't last
very long, did it?
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1343. Long enough.
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1344. You know something, Columbo?
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1345. You're a devious man.
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1346. That's what they tell me.
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1347. I'm gonna tell you something.
What I meant to say...
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1348. was that I drove out to Parker Motors
but when I got there, Parker's car was gone.
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1349. So I assumed that he left for the day.
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1350. And since my original statement to you
was verbal...
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1351. you must have misunderstood
what I said.
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1352. Now, if you claim otherwise,
I'm gonna deny it.
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1353. Is that clear?
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1354. That's very clear.
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1355. I don't care what you think.
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1356. I don't care what you suspect.
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1357. I don't care what visions you see
when you look at your cigar ashes...
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1358. because I'm innocent.
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1359. I have an alibi for the time
Gene Stafford died.
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1360. And you can huff and puff
on that rotten cigar until next July...
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1361. and you'll never prove otherwise.
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1362. - I wouldn't count on that.
- Columbo...
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1363. If you are smart...
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1364. I won't be seeing you again.
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1365. Stand still, Johnny.
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1366. Stop moving!
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1367. - Good morning, Mr. Janus.
- Morning, Susan.
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1368. Yes.
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1369. Milo, what are you
trying to do tome?
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1370. I just got a batch of invoices
from Green Eagle...
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1371. and I gotta tell you, pal...
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1372. you've got a lot of guts
charging prices...
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1373. Columbo, what the hell are you doing?
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1374. Oh, just a little
phone demonstration, sir...
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1375. to show how a man who's already dead
can appear to be alive.
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1376. Well, your little joke was not funny.
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1377. It wasn't meant to be funny,
sir. Oh, no.
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1378. No, you see this tape,
this is tricky stuff.
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1379. The other day,
I'm in the employment office.
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1380. I call the phone of Mr. Lewis Lacey.
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1381. Now, he gets on the phone, and he says
"Hello, this is Mr. Lacey."
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1382. Now, I get out a whole sentence
before I realize I'm not talking to him.
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1383. I'm talking to a recording.
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1384. A thing like that,
it makes an impression on you.
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1385. This tape here...
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1386. this is a tape of a conversation...
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1387. you had with Mr. Stafford
two months ago.
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1388. I clipped out a piece of it...
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1389. and I played it back on the phone.
I hope you don't mind.
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1390. But I do mind. What the hell
gives you the right, Columbo?
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1391. This, sir.
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1392. This is a warrant.
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1393. This gives me the right.
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1394. I also found the spot on the tape...
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1395. that you clipped out before.
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1396. The tape that you used
to convince your secretary...
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1397. that Mr. Stafford was alive
and working out in the gym.
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1398. It came from this reel.
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1399. But when you play
this reel back, it skips...
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1400. from the end
of the previous phone call...
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1401. to the point where your secretary
tells you...
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1402. that Mr. Stafford is on the phone...
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1403. but in between there's a splice mark.
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1404. You see it?
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1405. Now, I figure
what's been clipped out...
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1406. that's the part
where Mr. Stafford said...
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1407. "Hello, Jessica, this is Gene Stafford.
Can I speak to Mr. Janus?"
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1408. Something like that.
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1409. You see how easy it is
to fool people.
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1410. Columbo...
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1411. you've got some imagination.
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1412. Even if someone did clip out
a section of that tape...
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1413. it could have been anyone
that knew about those files.
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1414. But it wasn't anyone, sir.
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1415. You carried on a lengthy conversation
on the phone with him didn't you?
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1416. I'll tell you how you did it,
if you're interested.
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1417. Go ahead, it's your fairy tale.
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1418. When you came home, sir,
after you murdered Mr. Stafford...
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1419. you went into your study...
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1420. and you pushed down line 6901.
Copy !req
1421. Then you dialed 6902...
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1422. knowing that your secretary
in the living room would answer the phone.
Copy !req
1423. She picks up the phone.
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1424. Naturally, she recognizes
Mr. Stafford's voice.
Copy !req
1425. Now you come out of the study,
you take the phone...
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1426. and you stage
this imaginary conversation.
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1427. Even to the point
of planting the idea...
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1428. that he was working out
with exercise equipment.
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1429. Did I?
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1430. Yes, sir, you did.
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1431. And you did something else,
and this was smart.
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1432. And I give you credit for this.
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1433. You removed the bulb on the phone
in the living room...
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1434. so that the line wouldn't light up.
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1435. Because if 6901 lit up...
Copy !req
1436. the people there would know that you
were talking from the phone in the study.
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1437. Guess work. Supposition.
More cigar ashes.
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1438. What you need, Lieutenant, is proof.
That's what you need, proof.
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1439. It didn't take me till July...
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1440. but I got the proof.
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1441. Right here.
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1442. Your sworn statement...
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1443. regarding the telephone conversation
that you claim you had with Mr. Stafford.
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1444. But I did talk to him.
I talked to him.
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1445. - And he was at the health club?
- Yes.
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1446. And he was working out
with the barbell?
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1447. He said he was about to work out.
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1448. Here's your quote.
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1449. "He already changed
into his gym clothes.
Copy !req
1450. He said he was going to work out
for about a half an hour...
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1451. and then go home."
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1452. - Is that what he said?
- Yes.
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1453. Are you sure?
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1454. Yes, damn it. That's what I said.
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1455. That's impossible, Mr. Janus.
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1456. Oh, that's just not possible.
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1457. Lieutenant,
that's a very expensive desk.
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1458. Oh, excuse me.
If you'd just bear with me for a moment.
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1459. Because this is very interesting.
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1460. Watch this carefully.
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1461. I tie my shoes
like most right-handed people.
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1462. I make my first loop...
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1463. and you'll notice
that the loop is over my arch.
Copy !req
1464. It's on the same side as my big toe.
Copy !req
1465. Is that true?
Copy !req
1466. That's right.
Copy !req
1467. Just bear with me, sir.
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1468. Oh, that's my lunch.
That doesn't mean nothing.
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1469. Here we are.
This is an old sneaker of mine.
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1470. Now I turn that sneaker around...
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1471. just like I was gonna
tie somebody else's shoe.
Copy !req
1472. I do the laces the same way
and I make my first loop.
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1473. You'll notice that the loop...
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1474. is now on the opposite side.
It's on the side of the little toe.
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1475. Here, it was on the side
of the big toe.
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1476. This is the exact reversal of this.
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1477. Is that true?
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1478. Yes, Lieutenant, that's true.
Copy !req
1479. You see, I knew there was something about
these shoelaces that was bothering me.
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1480. I just couldn't put my finger on it.
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1481. Oh, yes.
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1482. Look at this photograph.
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1483. This is a picture
of Mr. Stafford's sneakers.
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1484. It was taken
when the body was discovered.
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1485. You'll notice that the first loop
which you can always identify...
Copy !req
1486. it's the top loop...
Copy !req
1487. the first loop is on the side
of the little toe.
Copy !req
1488. Now look at this shoe.
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1489. This is Mr. Stafford's shoe.
I found it in his locker.
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1490. Now, this is the interesting point.
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1491. When I tie my own lace...
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1492. the first loop
is on the side of the big toe.
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1493. When Mr. Stafford
ties his own laces...
Copy !req
1494. the first loop
is on the side of the big toe.
Copy !req
1495. This matches with this.
Copy !req
1496. However...
Copy !req
1497. when I tie somebody else's shoe...
Copy !req
1498. the first loop is on the side
of the little toe.
Copy !req
1499. And this matches with this.
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1500. There's only one conclusion.
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1501. Mr. Stafford did not
put on his own sneakers.
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1502. Somebody else did.
Copy !req
1503. And that somebody was you.
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1504. You changed his clothes.
Copy !req
1505. Now, you wait a minute, Lieutenant.
I'll tell you something.
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1506. Your little demonstration
proves one thing and one thing only.
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1507. That somebody else
put on Stafford's gym shoes...
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1508. but the fact remains
you can't prove that I did it.
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1509. It could have been anybody.
Copy !req
1510. It could only be you.
Copy !req
1511. By your own admission,
it had to be you.
Copy !req
1512. Mr. Stafford was last seen around 7:30
wearing his business clothes.
Copy !req
1513. Now, he's alone in the building...
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1514. the building is locked and
the next morning, he's found dead...
Copy !req
1515. in his gym clothes!
Copy !req
1516. And at 9:00 the previous evening...
Copy !req
1517. nine hours before the body was found...
Copy !req
1518. you and you alone...
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1519. knew that he was
in his gym clothes.
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1520. You said so.
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1521. You swore to it
in front of five witnesses.
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1522. How did you know
he was in his gym clothes...
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1523. if you didn't change the clothes?
Copy !req
1524. You tried to contrive
the perfect alibi, sir.
Copy !req
1525. And it's your perfect alibi
that's gonna hang you.
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