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3.  Yeah. 
			  
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4.  So, do you mind walking us through
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5.  Um, yeah, it was... 
			  
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6.  I actually remember,
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7.  It had been rainy
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8.  I didn't know was going to be
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9.  so I wore tights. 
			  
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10.  I really wish I hadn't. 
			  
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11.  It was really just a normal day. 
			  
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12.  I don't know how else to describe it. 
			  
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13.  I started the day on traffic duty. 
			  
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14.  Mrs. Worthy tried to drop Brian off
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15.  but other than that, 
			  
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16.  there was nothing out of the ordinary. 
			  
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17.  Then in second period,
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18.  We do those, like, twice a year,
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19.  I got to miss a math test,
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20.  I had first lunch that day. 
			  
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21.  I got there earlier than usual
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22.  Chicken Finger Monday. 
			  
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23.  [Lil K] Those things are damn good. 
			  
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24.  Chicken fingers are very popular. 
			  
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25.  They're actually pretty solid
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26.  They're not restaurant quality,
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27.  I had a salad that day. 
			  
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28.  I think, a cookie and lemonade. 
			  
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29.  I had the chicken fingers for lunch
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30.  Chicken fingers, chips, lemonade— 
			  
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31.  - Spaghetti and lemonade—
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32.  A cookie, a lemonade— 
			  
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33.  - I got the spaghetti and lemonade.
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34.  - ... and lemonade.
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35.  - ... and lemonade.
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36.  - Lemonade.
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37.  So I was talking
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38.  and he just stops. 
			  
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39.  Mid-sentence. 
			  
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40.  I'll never forget the look on his face. 
			  
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41.  It was like time stopped for a second. 
			  
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42.  A couple of students
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43.  and I didn't even know it was going on. 
			  
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44.  It took me a minute to process. 
			  
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45.  It didn't really hit me right away. 
			  
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46.  And then it really hit me. 
			  
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47.  I had to shit. 
			  
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48.  And I looked around me
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49.  All of a sudden,
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50.  because our our bathrooms weren't designed
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51.  It was just a race
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52.  So I was already in the stalls. 
			  
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53.  Immediately after,
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54.  swarming in. 
			  
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55.  I couldn't even get out. 
			  
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56.  It wasn't a line to the bathroom. 
			  
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57.  Seriously! Hurry up! Are you done yet? 
			  
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58.  It was a pile. 
			  
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59.  I realized there was no way
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60.  so I grabbed a trash can. 
			  
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61.  People were just trying to find a place
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62.  I was desperate. 
			  
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63.  I just pooped on the floor. 
			  
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64.  People were shitting in urinals and sinks.
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65.  I've been at St. Bernardine
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66.  I can tell you, 
			  
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67.  this was the worst thing
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68.  - 9-1-1, what's your emergency? 
			  
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69.  I'm calling
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70.  Yes, ma'am?
- Our students... I don't know how to say. 
			  
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71.  They're all sick, they're all...
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72.  It happened around lunchtime. 
			  
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73.  It was just a few students
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74.  I wanted to die. 
			  
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75.  We had no choice. 
			  
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76.  I mean, most of us just shit our pants
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77.  I realized right away 
			  
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78.  this wasn't the work
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79.  This was an attack. 
			  
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80.  Before it was all over,
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81.  "The Brownout." 
			  
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82.  The Brownout was the worst day of my life. 
			  
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83.  Mrs. Wexler, the Dean of Students,
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84.  - Oh, my God.
- [Lil K] So after lunch, 
			  
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85.  they call school off
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86.  My parents came to pick me up, 
			  
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87.  I go home, 
			  
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88.  I take a long shower, 
			  
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89.  and I look at my phone
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90.  I got tagged in a video
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91.  The Turd Burglar... 
			  
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92.  I got tagged in a video. 
			  
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93.  I didn't know who it was, 
			  
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94.  but he knew just about everybody
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95.  He was taunting us with his captions. 
			  
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96.  "Milk, milk, lemonade,
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97.  poo emoji is made." 
			  
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98.  At this point it's clear 
			  
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99.  it wasn't an accident,
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100.  Honestly I didn't know
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101.  who wasn't following
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102.  He got, like, 800 followers in one day. 
			  
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103.  There was no name, no face. 
			  
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104.  Just a bunch of pictures of poop
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105.  A bunch of us tried to message him,
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106.  or followed anyone back. 
			  
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107.  He posted a picture
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108.  What caught my eye right away
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109.  @theturdburglar, 
			  
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110.  and right away I thought, "Here we go." 
			  
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111.  We got something really serious going on. 
			  
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112.  This guy wanted an audience. 
			  
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113.  For the next two weeks,
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114.  "Who is the Turd Burglar?" 
			  
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115.  In April of 2016, 
			  
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116.  Sam Ecklund and I began shooting
American Vandal, 
			  
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117.  in hopes of getting Hanover High School's
school board 
			  
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118.  to reexamine the case of Dylan Maxwell, 
			  
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119.  a high school senior
accused of drawing dicks, 
			  
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120.  a crime he didn't commit. 
			  
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121.  And it worked. 
			  
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122.  But we never anticipated
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123.  Vimeo made it a Staff Pick,
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124.  it got hundreds of thousands of views. 
			  
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125.  And then, 
			  
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126.  we got an email. 
			  
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127.  At first, I thought it was Sam
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128.  but it was real 
			  
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129.  and it was from Netflix. 
			  
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130.  Netflix allowed us to reach
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131.  and to add some additional
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132.  like drone shots, an original score,
opening credits, 
			  
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133.  and 3D graphics. 
			  
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134.  It brought new life to our documentary, 
			  
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135.  even though many the fans
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136.  of some of the Vimeo version's
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137.  Since season one was released on Netflix, 
			  
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138.  the response has been incredible. 
			  
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139.  Please welcome Peter Maldonado
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140.  It put us on the national stage
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141.  The biggest question
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142.  - who drew the dicks? 
			  
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143.  I'm telling you all this
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144.  Because with all this attention
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145.  and a lot of opinions on what kind
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146.  There was a staggering number of people 
			  
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147.  who contacted us about their schools'
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148.  For example, 
			  
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149.  someone burnt a dick into the 50-yard line
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150.  I'm not sure if it was weed killer
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151.  but we had to re-sod the whole field. 
			  
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152.  Then there was a spray-painting
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153.  a serial pool-pisser
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154.  a Navy pilot who drew a dick in the sky, 
			  
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155.  and a real murder, 
			  
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156.  that for some reason someone thought
Sam and I should figure out. 
			  
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157.  But with the exception of that murder, 
			  
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158.  nothing seemed worth
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159.  until I was contacted by Chloe Lyman. 
			  
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160.  Hi, Peter. 
			  
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161.  My name is Chloe Lyman and I'm a junior
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162.  I'm contacting you today
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163.  He goes by the name "The Turd Burglar." 
			  
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164.  This one really grabbed me. 
			  
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165.  The Hanover High dicks were a financial
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166.  but what happened at St. Bernardine
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167.  The Turd Burglar,
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168.  was waging psychological warfare
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169.  of one of the most affluent high schools
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170.  A school whose alumni donors
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171.  A school with a nationally ranked
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172.  A school that, according to Chloe Lyman, 
			  
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173.  cared about its reputation above all else. 
			  
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174.  Because, I'm telling you,
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175.  secrets that go all the way up to the top. 
			  
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176.  So after giving a presentation
to our teachers at Hanover High, 
			  
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177.  Sam and I were approved to make
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178.  our senior project. 
			  
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179.  In December of 2017, 
			  
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180.  we headed up to Bellevue, Washington 
			  
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181.  with a small crew and brand new equipment. 
			  
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182.  Chloe's parents let Sam and I
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183.  Hi. 
			  
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184.  - Oh my God, hi.
- Hey. 
			  
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185.  - Thanks for letting us stay.
- Nice to meet you. 
			  
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186.  She seemed to know a lot about
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187.  so I thought it was a good idea
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188.  Also, her house is sick. 
			  
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189.  Don't drop it. 
			  
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190.  Twelve hundred miles north of Oceanside, 
			  
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191.  we found ourselves
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192.  at the scene of the crime: 
			  
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193.  St. Bernardine Catholic High School. 
			  
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194.  This is beautiful. 
			  
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195.  This is the east gym. 
			  
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196.  You guys really aren't messing around
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197.  Kind of a lot. 
			  
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198.  St. Bernardine is a school
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199.  so it's no wonder the Turd Burglar 
			  
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200.  was able to terrorize
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201.  Well, Jim, police are still very active
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202.  They're just trying to get whatever
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203.  Since Monday, the police
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204.  and their parent company Facebook... 
			  
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205.  an anonymous account, @theturdburglar, 
			  
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206.  is taking credit for the crime. 
			  
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207.  Bellevue Police Department
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208.  "The acts of the Turd Burglar
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209.  After the Brownout, everyone was on edge. 
			  
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210.  All these kids didn't show up
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211.  Were these parents pulling these kids out
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212.  Nobody wanted
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213.  It was really hard to do
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214.  Turd Burglar kept threatening
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215.  but no one knew how. 
			  
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216.  Anytime I smelled anything rotten, 
			  
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217.  heard anything that sounded like a fart, 
			  
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218.  I would instantly think
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219.  My phone was ringing off the hook
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220.  who were threatening
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221.  The administration was coming up empty, 
			  
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222.  and we just couldn't sit there
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223.  I promise you, we are taking the incident
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224.  I have a daughter who has hemorrhoids. 
			  
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225.  I have a question. 
			  
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226.  Do you know how hard it is to clean poo
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227.  Do you know how expensive it is
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228.  You'll make a receipt that I can turn in
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229.  A receipt? 
			  
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230.  Well, a week after the incident,
we were still grasping at straws. 
			  
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231.  - Hi. 
			  
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232.  So we decided to open it up 
			  
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233.  and interview every student at the school. 
			  
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234.  We followed every potential lead.
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235.  So, a few students came to us, 
			  
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236.  telling us that Savannah Hagedorn
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237.  so much so that she... 
			  
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238.  She often had three lemonades
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239.  Have a seat. 
			  
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240.  Why would she choose that one day
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241.  It turns out Savannah didn't even like
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242.  She drinks the pink lemonade
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243.  I didn't realize there was some
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244.  Yeah, okay. 
			  
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245.  So that lead was nothing. 
			  
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246.  I'm pretty sure this was Jared Wilkinson. 
			  
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247.  Why is that, that you think it's Jared? 
			  
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248.  He's kind of into scat porn... 
			  
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249.  type stuff. 
			  
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250.  Then we looked in the Jared Wilkinson. 
			  
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251.  His classmates told us
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252.  He watches it a lot? 
			  
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253.  Yeah, kind of at school. 
			  
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254.  Sex with... with feces? 
			  
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255.  Sex with it, or...? 
			  
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256.  How is the poop involved
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257.  No, I wasn't there for the Brownout. Um... 
			  
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258.  I was out. I had a doctor's appointment. 
			  
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259.  He had a completely solid alibi. 
			  
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260.  Turns out he wasn't even
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261.  So, another lead that went nowhere. 
			  
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262.  We heard dozens of stories, 
			  
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263.  and students were coming to us
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264.  and accusations that went nowhere. 
			  
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265.  Parents were pulling their students
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266.  The media had a field day. 
			  
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267.  We were 16 days into our investigation 
			  
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268.  and we still had nothing. 
			  
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269.  That's when Tanner Bassett came to us. 
			  
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270.  State your name, please. 
			  
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271.  It's Tanner Bassett. 
			  
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272.  What do you want to tell us? 
			  
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273.  I think I know who the Turd Burglar is. 
			  
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274.  It's Kevin McClain. 
			  
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275.  Tanner says that the Turd Burglar
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276.  and you could tell
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277.  And that the guilt was building up. 
			  
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278.  And he says that he believes
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279.  So, 
			  
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280.  he does the right thing and he... 
			  
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281.  he turns him in. 
			  
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282.  [Lil K] Kevin's kind of weird.
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283.  What made it legit is that it was Tanner
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284.  Tanner and Kevin,
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285.  This wasn't just a blind accusation. 
			  
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286.  This was coming from Kevin's best friend. 
			  
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287.  How long have you known Kevin? 
			  
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288.  Uh, since kindergarten. 
			  
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289.  He lived in the house
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290.  Fair to say
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291.  Yeah,
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292.  We carpool together, we're in... 
			  
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293.  Uh, we were in a band together.
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294.  [Lil K] I think their band was called
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295.  or the Horsehead Collective or something. 
			  
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296.  Their music was kind of experimental. 
			  
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297.  We're gonna play
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298.  "Digital Refrigerator." 
			  
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299.  So when I was in the eighth grade, 
			  
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300.  I thought they were so good
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301.  Yeah, back in middle school,
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302.  But now I realize they're awful. 
			  
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303.  They DJ'd a middle school dance
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304.  It was the worst song
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305.  It made sense why the kids
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306.  Uh, it was garbage. 
			  
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307.  Tanner, would you say, uh... 
			  
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308.  that Kevin is, you know, bullied? 
			  
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309.  Kids will often laugh at him 
			  
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310.  rather than with him sometimes. 
			  
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311.  In a situation where a student
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312.  especially this case where there's
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313.  we're looking for a student
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314.  by the rest of the school. 
			  
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315.  Kevin fits this profile to a T. 
			  
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316.  It's tougher to spot bullying these days. 
			  
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317.  You know, it's much more subtle. 
			  
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318.  Hey, Fruit Ninja!
It used to be right in your face. 
			  
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319.  Shove you into a locker,
take your lunch money. 
			  
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320.  But now these kids are going
right up to him with a phone 
			  
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321.  throwing fruit at him and he, 
			  
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322.  you know, tries to fight it off. 
			  
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323.  And then they'll post that video,
share it around, comment, 
			  
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324.  make fun of him,
tease him behind his back. 
			  
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325.  - Everyone called him the Fruit Ninja.
Fruit Ninja! 
			  
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326.  Fruit Ninja! 
			  
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327.  You can't throw a watermelon at me. 
			  
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328.  Matt Hahn made this blog
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329.  I got the idea
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330.  of teas from around the world. 
			  
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331.  I was like, "More kids need to see this." 
			  
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332.  You want to be sure 
			  
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333.  to suck in quite a bit of air as you taste 
			  
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334.  so as to create a vapor 
			  
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335.  that reaches all surfaces of your mouth
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336.  So, Kevin, 
			  
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337.  he's like one of those guys
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338.  doing an impression of a smart guy. 
			  
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339.  Truly a delight. 
			  
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340.  It's really cruel stuff. 
			  
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341.  The kids share his webcam videos, 
			  
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342.  dress as him for Halloween. 
			  
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343.  They post all the pictures online. 
			  
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344.  It's as clear as day. 
			  
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345.  He's bullied. 
			  
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346.  In my experience, 
			  
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347.  what Kevin went through 
			  
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348.  is exactly the kind of bullying 
			  
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349.  that would push an adolescent
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350.  Did he tell you
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351.  No, he didn't tell me, 
			  
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352.  but I know he did it. 
			  
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353.  How? 
			  
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354.  Well, I was with him
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355.  and we bought our lunch together
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356.  And normally we'd go
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357.  straight to our table, 
			  
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358.  but that day he goes all the way
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359.  which I thought was odd 
			  
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360.  'cause he's really particular
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361.  Then I saw him bump into Brother Buckley 
			  
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362.  and spill his lemonade. 
			  
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363.  I couldn't really hear what was going on, 
			  
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364.  but it seemed like Kevin was apologizing
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365.  But it didn't look like an accident to me. 
			  
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366.  You think Kevin... 
			  
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367.  bumped into Brother Buckley intentionally? 
			  
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368.  - Yeah.
- Why? 
			  
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369.  Because Brother Buckley's old. 
			  
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370.  Like, old people die on the toilet
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371.  and everybody knows that Brother Buckley's
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372.  What was going
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373.  - from just getting another lemonade?
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374.  Kevin replaced it for him. 
			  
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375.  He did? 
			  
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376.  But he didn't get the lemonade,
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377.  he got the horchata. 
			  
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378.  And Kevin said that the horchata
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379.  and that he wanted to get Buckley a treat 
			  
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380.  because he felt bad,
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381.  The horchata was a big deal to us. 
			  
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382.  Why buy a horchata to replace a lemonade? 
			  
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383.  It's $1.25 more. 
			  
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384.  And who knows if Brother Buckley
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385.  A lot of people don't. I don't. 
			  
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386.  Cinnamon and milk? 
			  
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387.  As soon as Tanner told us
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388.  we knew we were onto something. 
			  
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389.  Did he seem nervous? 
			  
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390.  - Did he seem like he was hiding anything?
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391.  I mean, all that day, 
			  
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392.  before the Brownout. 
			  
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393.  Um, even the night before. 
			  
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394.  That's when I noticed it,
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395.  He was driving me home, 
			  
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396.  and we decided to go to Dawsey's
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397.  And the free samples guy, 
			  
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398.  he gives us unlimited samples, 
			  
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399.  but he has no idea that he's doing it. 
			  
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400.  So Kevin came up with this: 
			  
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401.  So we'd go up to him and say,
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402.  May I?
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403.  And the guy would say,
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404.  Then Kevin would go around the aisle 
			  
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405.  and he'd come back and do some voice. 
			  
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406.  He'd go, "Hello. 
			  
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407.  Can I have a meatball?"
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408.  "Oh, sure. Have a meatball." 
			  
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409.  And he has no idea. 
			  
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410.  One time Kevin ate eight meatballs. 
			  
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411.  Delectable! Thank you! 
			  
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412.  That's just what we'd do
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413.  We'd dupe this guy
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414.  So— So we get to Dawsey's,
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415.  just get some free samples. 
			  
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416.  I walk to the sample station, 
			  
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417.  and I realized Kevin's not following me. 
			  
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418.  I don't know where he went. So it's weird. 
			  
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419.  I got some pigs in a blanket, but.. 
			  
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420.  Kevin's buying something else.
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421.  with a big bag. 
			  
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422.  Of samples?
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423.  A huge bag filled with something,
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424.  What did you think was in there?
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425.  He said, "Nothing." He seemed nervous. 
			  
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426.  So it was probably the laxatives. 
			  
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427.  Kevin makes a substantial purchase
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428.  and your best friend asks you,
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429.  and you refuse to tell him. 
			  
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430.  Did you see him bring the Dawsey's bag
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431.  No, it's just... 
			  
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432.  But he could've hid it
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433.  Anything else you can remember
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434.  Anything that was sort of unusual
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435.  Yeah, just... 
			  
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436.  Remember I was telling you
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437.  Well, that day... 
			  
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438.  Kevin chose a different lunch table. 
			  
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439.  Very early into that lunch,
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440.  I just noticed some people weren't
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441.  So, I remember seeing Shaun Sacoda
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442.  and the lacrosse guys, 
			  
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443.  the one with the "Runner Boy"
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444.  which is weird, because Sean usually sits
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445.  Usually Declan does, too. 
			  
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446.  So then I look to Nick, and I realize 
			  
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447.  that Dec and Sacoda
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448.  or Lissa Brasington and Monty Calamaway, 
			  
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449.  because sitting next to Nick 
			  
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450.  is Tanner Bassett and Kevin McClain. 
			  
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451.  And I don't think it was random. 
			  
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452.  Why? 
			  
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453.  Because he was sitting across
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454.  Okay. 
			  
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455.  I'm sorry, who is Nick Sondergoth? 
			  
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456.  Nick is somebody that Kevin's hated
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457.  Why? 
			  
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458.  Because he ruined Kevin's life. 
			  
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459.  Kevin was just the nicest kid. 
			  
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460.  I moved to Bellevue
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461.  so I didn't know anybody
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462.  So I was really lucky to find Kevin. 
			  
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463.  And I know it sounds weird to say 
			  
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464.  that someone was popular in fourth grade, 
			  
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465.  but Kevin was just... 
			  
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466.  kind of a kid that everyone really liked. 
			  
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467.  Kevin wasn't always weird. 
			  
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468.  Back then he was just a normal kid. 
			  
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469.  It just really sucks what happened to him. 
			  
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470.  Before St. Bernie, a lot of kids
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471.  I was in that gym class with Kevin. 
			  
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472.  I remember it pretty clearly. 
			  
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473.  Back then, we all wore
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474.  They were light blue. 
			  
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475.  The kind that would easily get
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476.  Kevin sucked at Capture the Flag, 
			  
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477.  so he gets tagged out, like, immediately. 
			  
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478.  Kevin's sitting in jail 
			  
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479.  and someone made a jailbreak. 
			  
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480.  I think was Adam Kimbrough. 
			  
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481.  He tags Kevin free and Kevin gets up. 
			  
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482.  He's got this stain on his shorts, 
			  
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483.  right on his butt. 
			  
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484.  Kevin said was dirt,
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485.  It really looked like he shit his pants. 
			  
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486.  It was funny,
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487.  Gym class ended
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488.  Until the next morning. 
			  
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489.  Apparently, Nick Sondergoth
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490.  while we were in gym class
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491.  The caption for that picture 
			  
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492.  was "Shit Stain McClain." 
			  
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493.  He became Shit Stain McClain. 
			  
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494.  I mean, kids can be really cruel. 
			  
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495.  Hey, Shit Stain McClain! 
			  
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496.  That name, 
			  
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497.  "Shit Stain McClain," 
			  
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498.  it destroyed Kevin.
It was really bad for him. 
			  
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499.  And it was huge for Nick Sondergoth. 
			  
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500.  Kevin was cool.
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501.  He went from a 35-person
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502.  to, like, a three-person birthday party
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503.  After that, he created this
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504.  where he had to be the smartest person
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505.  There was a month in 8th grade
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506.  for no reason. 
			  
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507.  I felt sorry for the kid. 
			  
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508.  You know, imagine going through
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509.  just because of one mistake. 
			  
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510.  Kevin. Have a seat. 
			  
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511.  Much obliged. 
			  
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512.  Monday, November 6th. 
			  
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513.  Do you remember what happened on that day? 
			  
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514.  Kevin... 
			  
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515.  I'm sorry,
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516.  Let's just say, 
			  
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517.  for the rest of this interview, 
			  
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518.  there will be no rhetorical questions,
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519.  Was that a question? 
			  
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520.  Kevin's got a wall up,
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521.  for an adolescent, uh,
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522.  Can you please tell me why you think
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523.  Well, I assume
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524.  with this turd burglarizing. 
			  
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525.  No one comes right out and confesses.
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526.  Unfortunately, I know nothing, 
			  
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527.  nor do I understand the juvenile nature
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528.  November 6th. 
			  
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529.  What were you doing during that lunch? 
			  
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530.  Would it surprise you if I said
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531.  I was at lunch? 
			  
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532.  He's not just gonna admit it, 
			  
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533.  so we know it's all about
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534.  For hours, he was giving us nothing
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535.  Because I didn't. Declarative. 
			  
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536.  Period. Sentence dot. 
			  
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537.  I don't recall, 
			  
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538.  recollect, remember. 
			  
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539.  Where were you
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540.  But when we asked him where he was
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541.  he immediately replies... 
			  
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542.  I was on the baseball field
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543.  "The baseball field." 
			  
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544.  He knew he had to be accounted for
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545.  All the food and beverages
are kept in this room 
			  
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546.  behind the kitchen cafeteria, 
			  
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547.  and if you sneak through the back door,
it's going to set off a buzzer alarm. 
			  
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548.  The only thing that's going to be
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549.  is a fire alarm. 
			  
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550.  To us it was clear
that during the fire alarm, 
			  
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551.  that's when Kevin put the laxatives
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552.  So, let's talk about the laxatives. 
			  
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553.  The night of November 5th, 
			  
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554.  you went to Dawsey's. 
			  
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555.  Listen, I had no reason to go to Dawsey's. 
			  
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556.  That's not what your best friend said. 
			  
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557.  - And who might that be?
- Tanner Bassett. 
			  
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558.  He told us everything. 
			  
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559.  You changed seats, Kevin. Why? 
			  
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560.  I don't know. For a change of scenery? 
			  
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561.  A change of scenery that brings you
next to Nick Sondergoth? 
			  
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562.  Yes, next to Nick Sondergoth. 
			  
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563.  And did you enjoy watching Nick Sondergoth
poop his pants? 
			  
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564.  Kevin, let's go back
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565.  Did you like that nickname? 
			  
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566.  No. 
			  
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567.  Because you've been hearing it
since sixth grade. 
			  
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568.  "Shit Stain McClain." 
			  
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569.  The school is pressing charges, 
			  
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570.  but I can tell you that the judge
is going to be a lot more lenient 
			  
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571.  if you're honest with us. 
			  
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572.  What you have to remember
is that we're dealing with a 17-year-old. 
			  
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573.  He's a kid. 
			  
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574.  We'll tell the judge that.
We'll tell him you just... 
			  
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575.  you know, got bullied
and you were trying to get back at those 
			  
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576.  that we're treating you unfairly,
it just got a little out of hand. 
			  
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577.  Of course, he's gonna get emotional
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578.  but he finally has to face the truth. 
			  
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579.  Kevin, here's the thing.
We know you did it. 
			  
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580.  There's a mountain of evidence
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581.  You got the horchata, 
			  
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582.  you've got the going to Dawsey's
the night before, 
			  
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583.  and Throwback Thursday Shit Stain McClain. 
			  
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584.  So, we gave him a break 
			  
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585.  to collect himself, 
			  
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586.  he came back in the room
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587.  What do you want me to say?
- We want you to tell us the truth, Kevin. 
			  
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588.  You spilled Brother Buckley's lemonade
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589.  didn't you? 
			  
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590.  - Yeah.
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591.  Because I didn't want him to poop himself. 
			  
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592.  I didn't think his body could take it. 
			  
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593.  Because you knew the lemonade was tainted. 
			  
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594.  Yes. 
			  
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595.  And how did you know
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596.  I was the one who did it. 
			  
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597.  Because... 
			  
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598.  you put the laxatives in the lemonade. 
			  
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599.  Yeah. 
			  
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600.  And what else did you do? 
			  
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601.  I... 
			  
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602.  did the thing... 
			  
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603.  at the pep rally. 
			  
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604.  And... 
			  
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605.  And the thing in Ms. Montgomery's class. 
			  
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606.  Kevin, 
			  
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607.  are you the Turd Burglar? 
			  
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608.  Yes. 
			  
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609.  Kevin McClain confessed. 
			  
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610.  And not just to the Brownout. 
			  
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611.  I mean, the Brownout was bad,
but then he hit us again. 
			  
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612.  And again. 
			  
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613.  Oh, my God! 
			  
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614.  After three crimes, 
			  
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615.  I was starting to think he may never stop. 
			  
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616.  The Turd Burglar
committed three crimes 
			  
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617.  over the course of eight days. 
			  
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618.  And Kevin confessed to all of them. 
			  
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619.  He confessed to being the Turd Burglar. 
			  
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620.  You did all three crimes. 
			  
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621.  A serial vandal. 
			  
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622.  Yes. 
			  
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623.  Bless us, oh Lord, for these thy gifts
which we are about to receive 
			  
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624.  from thy bounty
through Christ Our Lord. Amen. 
			  
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625.  Amen. 
			  
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626.  Amen! 
			  
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627.  My name is Patricia McClain.
I'm Kevin's grandmother, 
			  
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628.  so I know him better than anyone. 
			  
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629.  He's a funny kid, very perceptive. 
			  
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630.  If there's something that's not right, 
			  
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631.  like the temperature of his food, or... 
			  
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632.  or the way you fold his laundry, 
			  
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633.  oh, he'll let you know about it. 
			  
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634.  When I first heard of what they were
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635.  Forty innocent kids pooped in their pants. 
			  
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636.  I just said, "No way."
I couldn't believe it. 
			  
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637.  Do you have a grudge
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638.  I know that he is innocent. 
			  
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639.  You don't like your classmates,
do you, Kevin? 
			  
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640.  - Fruit Ninja!
- You can't throw a watermelon at me. 
			  
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641.  You kind of resent them. 
			  
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642.  Fruit Ninja! 
			  
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643.  There was no way that he would make
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644.  poop their pants. 
			  
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645.  People making fun of my shit stain?
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646.  You think poop is funny? 
			  
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647.  If that's what they're saying,
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648.  You put the laxatives in the lemonade. 
			  
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649.  that he caused his fellow students
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650.  "Look, there's Shit Stain McClain!" 
			  
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651.  Hey, Shit Stain McClain! 
			  
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652.  then let me ask you this. 
			  
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653.  You did the Brownout,
you did all three crimes. 
			  
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654.  Why did Kevin poop his own pants? 
			  
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